It just bug me that that thing was hanging out. >> Is that a seal? Is that what that is? Like >> bothered me every time I try that. since they did the hydro clean like ago. Oh, We really need to retire. >> Yeah. >> You didn't take down water, right? the one that accesses 12. >> I think that's a state thing. Yeah. I guess >> it open a remote thing or a key. All right. So, we're live. >> What's that? Good to see you. Thanks for coming. >> What's your hold on or anything in particular? >> Nice. >> So, you thought you come to a council meeting? >> Yeah. >> Long time no see. I don't know. It's not your call, but I do have your name here if you want to join us. My friends drafted for me. for Thursday and Friday, >> but I have a big >> I think we get started. All right. Calling to order the September 2nd, 2025 meeting of the Long Lake City Council. Good evening everyone. It's 6:30 p.m. All council members are present this evening. Item two on the agenda is the pledge alleg of allegiance. Please join me. Item two is mayor comments lnick news meeting review and update. We're started this meeting review. We just finished a city council work session where we discussed um city administrator hiring process. As most probably know, our city minister Scott Whiskey is leaving the city as of September 19th. We discussed some next steps in the process to try to fill his uh shoes once he once he leave. And then item we also discussed the preliminary 2026 uh city budget and levy and has got some prelim preliminary information from city staff regarding that. that'll be discussed further in detail um during our next council meeting um rough or two weeks from today. Other than that, nothing major report uh since our last meeting a couple weeks ago. It's a Labor Day weekend. A nice great weekend weatherwise in the city. Get some yard work done and all that before uh fall sets in. So hopefully everyone had a enjoyable Labor Day weekend. So with that, let's move on to item four, which is to approve this evening's agenda. >> I'll make a motion to approve tonight's agenda. Second. >> Thank you. Motion in the second. Any further discussion? All those in favor signify by saying I. >> I. Opposed? Motion carries unanimously. Item five is the consent agenda. Items A through D on the consent agenda this evening. most notably mentioned uh approving a special event permit for purchase in the lake fun 5K and 10K on September 14th, 2025, just a couple weeks from uh today. Other than that, any questions for staff regarding items on this evening's consent agenda? >> Just uh kind of curious on the vendor claims and payroll um under the WST. >> Yes. >> Um there's a Zago assessment and driveway replacement. >> So, they were um they were preparing for me a final estimate of how much we should be keeping in our um cash letter of credit on hand until that the driveway repairs were completed. So, they were working on completing those numbers for me because if you recall, originally they had a $250,000 cash line letter credit um and that was going to be reduced. We actually spoke about that at one of the other um this is the last >> Oh, okay. Yeah. >> Um >> they've been doing some sight >> in some sight inspections and actually in the next few council meetings, you're going to see a much larger amount of that letter of credit being refunded because >> you have been developers a little more under those were Yeah, we're always a month behind with WSB billing. So, this was billing that we received um work that they had done in July. So we'll be we'll get you might see a little bit more come in the next August numbers and then you'll also see a refund check coming. >> Okay. >> For a portion of that letter as well. >> And then the Red Rooster emails with MCWD and project team. I know it's a very I'm just curious. >> No, we do have an escrow for that one. >> Yep, we have an escrow. And so if you look over in um where it talks about the check state or check over on the um left hand side whenever you see an account that starts with 700 and I believe that's that in that case that those would be that is an escrow. >> Okay. >> Those directly they're a GL account and not an expense account for us and that's why they're not quite as long of account number. Um, so if you see a Z, it's going to be a GL account that's coming right out of their escrow or the register's escrow. Does that make sense? >> Yeah. But the other one said the E account, the bottom one, >> there may have been a portion of it that we had to cover our >> Okay. >> And so, um, we go through the invoices when WSB sends them and we determine what can be built back against the rest and what is the city engineering cost. Thanks for that clarification. >> Any other questions for staff? If not, I'll entertain a motion to approve the evening's consent agenda. >> I'll make a motion to approve tonight's consent agenda. Second. >> All right. Motion second. Any further discussion? All those in favor? I opposed. Motion carries unanimous, please. Item six, open correspondence. Open correspondence is an item on the agenda in which the public may address the city council. No formal action is taken by the city council and comments shall be limit shall be limited to 5 minutes or less. Open correspondent comments may also be emailed to city staff by noon on the date of meeting. Anyone wish to approach for open comments this evening? All right. And any submitted open correspondent? >> All right. Thank you. With that, we'll then end on item seven, regular business. Item 7A, final acceptance of developer improvements for the Zago Cooperative at Lake. >> I'd be in in short essentially um part of the reason I put this on the regular agenda versus the consent agenda which normally would be for project is that the unique factor to this both our escrow employee and letter of credit as a cash deposit. Typically, we're just reducing an LLC and exchanging a bomb. Um, so this is a little bit of a different scenario and I just wanted to call it to your attention. Um, so that um you'll uh understand that there's going to be a significant check we're going to see in the claims run at the next council meeting to uh to satisfy our obligation to the developer here. Um so we did enter into a developers agreement with 121 development LLC which is Bgo Cooperative at Long Lake. Um we've been you know reviewing site conditions here and making sure that um they satisfied the terms of the development agreement and all the required public improvements and any damages associated with the project. Um our city engineer has completed a final review of the project site and determined that the improvements have been installed in accordance with the plans and specifications and meet all the police standards as well as meeting the obligation set forth in the agreement. So at this time um we are uh recommending adoption of a resolution that approves those site development improvements um and accepts the developer installed public improvements um for the cooperative at Long Develop Long Cooperative at Long Lake Development. There we go. I can almost see. >> Um and then once uh that resolution has been adopted um and um the improvements, we would be retaining $8,000 of their test letter of credit deposit to serve as a maintenance fund for the next 24 months and issue a refund of their letter of credit fund in the amount of $184,25. Terrific. All right. Any questions for staff on this one? >> A motion to make a motion to adopt resolution. Thank you. Motion a second. Any further discussion? All those in favor >> I motion carries unanimously. Great Janette. >> Okay. Item 7B, direction to staff regarding removal of ash trees in just right away or next or interesting. Okay. Um, >> so we were talking internally as staff and um, while I know that we are budgeting next year and probably for a few more years to come for ash tree removals a little more heavily, um, there isn't all that much that was set aside for this year. I know Mandy has a breakdown, but um Mandy was doing a little work within various line items and um kind of seeing here if we might be able to address a at least a couple of the heavy hitter right away to this year. Um, I think that after our last discussion, um, I I know some felt a little unresolved as to whether there was direction to move forward with some of those trees. I think my recommendation would be to at least um encourage the council to provide direction to staff to obtain quotes for removal of a couple of those heavy hitters so that we're not just doing one or two, but maybe get a couple of those this year. Um, >> do we have a map of where they are? >> What's that? >> Do we have a map of where they are? >> How many after do we have in right away in the city about >> I would have to defer to Sean there. >> 200 >> and uh and when you say heavy hitters is that you know what is that 10? >> I would probably Well, I'd defer to the number. I would describe those as being the ones most likely to be a danger or >> Yeah. >> And how many of those 200 do you put in that category? >> Okay. About 20. Okay. >> And you've already gotten some estimates from some of those, right? That out of out of those 20, how many would you say is about half or >> Okay. >> And my thought would be that rather than I know we've come with estimates targeted towards individual trees. Maybe rather than individual tree estimates, maybe we try to get an estimate for them collectively and see if that, you know, impacts cost. See how many we can get for our dollars. Yeah. >> You think it would average about a,000 or 1500 a tree or >> Okay. I just go by, you know, I've had some tree work done and it seems to >> and I defer. >> Yeah. It depends how difficult it is to remove if there's a house they have to be really careful versus just dropping it, you know, because they have a big clearing. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And then they would take it away or >> do you have the capacity to haul it? >> Where do you bring it? >> Oh yeah. Okay. So, what percentage of the trees are actually um like did we plant ash trees as a city? Because I know there's um >> I'm sure the city planted them at some point, you know, 30 years ago. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And Sean, we we're probably um probably having audio issues with having you get picked up, but you mind come up sitting the chair up here with your name on or your podium. Appreciate that. Um okay. So, so continue. Well, when we I know we had the question a little bit about right away and I know um I had reached out to our city attorney on that and I'm I'm going to read his description of right away although I would say practice versus what this sounds like is not the same. Um so as he as he has stated right away is basically an ementum use right over land that's technically owned by the private property owner. State law and city code give the city authority to maintain trees which affect right of way use and statute gives us the ability to potentially assess for certain tree removals. We do as a city have an obligation to keep right ofway safe. So under that understanding many cities take the position that trees in rightway are the responsibility of the city when it comes to removal. Um city code allow the forester to declare certain trees and nuance in order they be removed. However, depending on the number of trees, it can be more efficient to provide notice and then mobilize to remove dead trees by a consolidated contractor. He also mentions the ability to, you know, address the trees, charge the benefited properties, and then assess any unpaid costs to those properties. um the approach that our neighbors I know the council will recall I kind of done a poll of the neighbors and how they were handling these trees and it was very clear that they were handling them um and and so um this really has been quite the learning lesson um not just on uh how do we want to handle these trees, how do we want to handle trees in right away period, but also what we need to do better in our city code. um in deficiencies there that we can address for the future and we certainly are working to do that. Um so that'll come along with this but uh just wanted to provide that clarification on right of way um and what it actually is again however >> canarily taking the position I would be happy to give you this copy if you would like >> I don't want to oh okay >> primarily taking the position of you start to say >> um primarily take the position of right Many cities are doing that and I would say in our area that is backed up because all the ones that we spoke to were accepting responsibility for those >> both the removal and the cost because you can it sounds like from this you can ask I mean because it's on their property >> it may be on their property but we have an obligation >> but one has asked us to come and take him down. every tree that's been in place. >> Yes, I can tell you it will be a very unpopular decision uh will be to assess all the property owners the cost of removal of >> I agree that it's the city's responsibility to take down these trees that are in the rightway. >> So Sean, do you have a good mechanism for you have a map like a detailed map you can look at when you're looking at these trees and people are calling in in the rightway to make sure in person >> and you kind of make a determination there whether or not it's in the right away or >> but but you're saying that you know they're challenging because in some cases they're close to the house but the house has a 35 foot setback from the curb right so you got 80 foot tree leaning into the house it's going to hit the house and other 30 foot 60 foot or >> so we're talking about total of 200 roughly a trees in city 20 are like in that critical need to be removed soon >> time frame. >> I mean we're talking about like about 20 to 30,000 probably >> to do that and we did on our budgeting for our preliminary budgets for next year we we did have 30,000 40,000 but 30,000 of that was for residential 10,000 for parks right >> so would that would the plan then be let's say are we talking about for next year are we talking about trying to take something I think that's what we're seeking direction on because I think I think we'd like to recommend we make progress this year. >> Well, but okay. So, if but are we talking about taking trying to take 20 trees this year and then another 20 or 30 trees next year? >> I wouldn't say that. I don't think the budget would support that. >> Okay. So, how about you know like 10 of 10 of the worst, let's say this year, >> you know, for for 10 to 12 15,000 >> money that you're going to allow then is what we're going to use. Well, I'll defer to Mandy that she's done some homework here. >> I did do some research and we've looked at this a little bit and you're correct. Next 040,000 and I'm sure we could even go a lot. I mean, if there was more money, we would >> just be mindful of that surplus there. Can't actually call it a surplus. That's what's left for the next four months in my department that I haven't spent yet. >> Right. And so what I did is I looked at the two departments that he's he's referring to, the streets and the parks. And I was trying to line items that we knew were that are currently in our budget and possibly wouldn't be um wouldn't have a lot of purchases coming out of the rest of the year because we still yeah unforeseen we still have four months left. So with that said out of streets I could pull out of a landscaping and street maintenance materials keeping in mind we don't know what the next four months are going to be. So out of street I could comfortably pull out 9,000 and out of park same thing out of capital outlay and landscaping materials a little bit easier because I think a lot of the park activity is going to be calming down now but I could pull out a 9,500 which combined would be 18,500 if you would like to use use that money for ash. >> Is this out of operation? Yeah. >> Yes. Out of the 25 operation budget. >> There's a piece of >> where we are here recommend how many trees can we get for 12 to 15,000 is honestly what I wonder about. Sean, what are your thoughts? >> I'm not going to spend that entire >> right. >> Well, I also wanted to ask are there any I I would think that there are some park needs right now that we shouldn't take money from. You mean to >> Well, I mean I don't know what what um >> maintenance or capital. >> Well, maintenance, you know, you heard about tennis court, you know. >> Absolutely. And this is where we write. >> Yeah. We things like that. I mean, we I don't want to short change the parts because we want to like pull money over. >> Absolutely. And that's >> But I'm I'm okay with, you know, 10,000 or something they could pull from um >> a little bit of both. were mostly not the parks but >> or wherever son appropriate to get to that number. >> Right. And that's the thing is Tom would be able to decide kind of >> um where he wanted that money to come from. And >> a lot of the park ones we used to be able to handle on our own, but there's going to be a couple or few exceptions that we're going to need help with. >> We don't want anybody to get hurt. >> So very green, too. >> Yeah. No, I'm not talking about even that taking Ash Street down to the park. I'm thinking I'm talking about like other park needs that >> Oh, I could write you a list 100 miles. >> That's Yeah, that's what I'm saying. And we've heard we've heard some from some residents about some, you know, concerns they have about the parks that we need to we can't ignore. And so I I don't want to >> think the only thing that I I want to prepare for I apologize. >> No. >> Um I agree because I you've also talked about a few needs. I don't I don't to always hold the money either and then if we don't get to those needs and then we didn't get to the Ashes, we didn't do anything with the money. So, I think whatever we do, >> but it doesn't carry over, right? >> It doesn't carry over. So, >> and so I think you're 100% right. Yes, there are definitely things that we need we need to be putting money towards. I just think we need to start seems like a priority. But you know, if it's a hazard, >> you know, because however, like just to clarify, however, depending on the total number of fees, it may be more efficient to provide notice and then mobilize to remove the dead fees um by a consolidated contractor charged for benefited property. In other words, assess them and then assess any unpaid costs to the property. Um so there's some I mean this is their property. They're responsible for it. we have an easement and um bottom line says there's a number of options and not a really a completely consistent approach among cities on tree removal like so just the the city is paying for all of this stuff if it was a you know some of these it's on their property it's the tree they look at >> which I kind of found out otherwise through research I mean not to contradict the city's journey but by our neighboring cities and the email she sent in August 6 shows the um all the you know cities around us do in fact cover the cost in the when it's in the rightway which you know one can argue that that's your actual property or not. Well, when it's more clear is when there's a sidewalk with a boulevard in >> it's clear that that's the rightway. But the fact is I mean there is still a rightaway there whether it's sidewalk or not. >> Usually how I gauge the back end of the rightway versus private property is the curb stop. That is going to be the transition from right away to private property. >> The curb what? What do you mean? >> Where we shut the water off to go. >> Oh yeah. Yeah. to that public that gives us the authority to enter that anytime we want to shut the water off for whatever reason and then from there going into the house that private that's how I the rightway >> and their property they can they can um plant anything they want in the rightway as said that you just rip it off >> I would also say though that many cities because an obligation um >> maintain the rightway. They don't have an obligation to maintain the rightway. They just have an obligation to remove risk if the tree were to fall, >> right? And because of that, many cities you'll see in their city codes do not actually allow planting right away because it's where we have just like you wouldn't allow someone to plant a tree right over your water sewing utility because if you ever need to access that line out, it's going to come. >> Yeah. >> So, the same logic has the street right away. And this is actually going to be sorry a blended a blended thing because if we take responsibility for trees and right away the homeowner doesn't get to call Sean and say you need to come and take this down. Sean will be deciding what trees get taken down when and in what order. It could be you could have a dead tree on your property for 10 years if it's not in our in our priority. And so as a homeowner, that's when they would then have to decide whether or not they take it down themselves. We're not going to just start going every it's our responsibility. So every time a homeowner calls, we're going to drop everything and take down not only just even the dead ash trees, but any tree. We just we're reserving the right if we see one that is an issue that we are reserving the right to take care of that. And so I think I think you're correct that it is essentially still the homeowner's property, but as soon as we feel the become a safety >> a safety issue. Then as a city we we are taking upon ourselves on our timeline to remove it and so especially it will remain the resident. >> So we we bond for infrastructure prop um uh projects in the right away for like the sewer stuff. >> So we're bonding to benefit from I'm just saying it becomes really expensive. I mean that we haven't seen a map of where these trees are and I know um but like what's is is it all ash trees? Are they dead ash trees? Um >> you know the final cost could be very expensive and Lake View could use a new street. >> An asht tree that might be live now could be dead next year. >> Yeah. >> Oh certainly. >> So this is not a on the line in the sand and we're over with type thing. It's going to be on for several years. >> So, if we take the whole um it's not just the dead street. I I I know what you're saying. Um it's not just the dead trees, but we're taking on a few expense and we're taking them all down. And why aren't we assessing some of the people in the streets that have >> some of the residents have already taken it upon themselves to remove trees that have been in the right way, too? >> Because I'm going to remove dead trees on my property, too. >> That decision It's not a decision for us, but rather for the council. If if that is a process the council wants to pursue. Um we can begin to look at that, we would be a standalone doing this. >> It doesn't sound like a total standalone because it what um John said is there are other cities handle it differently and you know maybe we don't have the resources that other like some of the cities that are doing it. >> I would suspect if I continue to call further and further out, we're going to see more and more cities. >> So, what what do you have any information why John said that? Data that >> I'm not talking about me, John. You're talking about >> Oh, John. >> I do not have any from our city attorney that um would set right on what cities do opt to assess versus to take responsibility. >> I don't have that. Just one example at city of Orno last week at their council me and they they had this item on their agenda as well. Um John's counterpart at Orno was uh um their memo. The city identified trees on the rightways of Ferndale Road North Chase Drive and Old Wick Road that are deadlarge or call for our crews to maintain power line shells affected. request a quote for $21,000 to remove the contract to remove those particular trees from that part of the city. >> Why those trees and I know they have some orno orchid has some trees by the golf course there. >> Yeah, I don't I don't know why drive there probably $40,000 worth of trees there alone that have to be cut out. >> Yeah. >> All over the place. >> You want to come up Mr. Miller and say something or Okay. You got you own a chainsaw. Burn them down. This on. >> Yes. Primarily 395 Lake View Avenue. Uh I have an arbor uh that's been in my home and cut down many trees for me. First tree cut down was a black walnut tree that ran right along side my house in my room. So I had it removed. He um wasn't in the city's rightway or anything, but there's power lines that run right over the rightway. So he actually had Excel Energy Center come and lower the tree at their expense to you know 10 12 feet from the power and lower the tree at their expense and then he took it to save me money. My my cut the whole thing any that are in the city's rightway that have power, >> which I happen to have two. If you look on Central Avenue, there's one that's up and >> that's an idea. power, but you know that I don't know how many there are that are in the cities right away, but any that have power lines around, you can call them below power lines, I'll take it down myself. And then the rightway, John was expl by the city that in my neighborhood the roads are 22 feet wide. City's right to 50t from the center of the road 14. >> By the way, we don't want >> Do you know anybody Excel? They'll be back out. >> Question from what and I've heard what is our responsibility in maintaining a right Yeah, we can give you the um I mean not >> what what other what else do we have to maintain? Cutting draft clearing it >> will be >> I think it's a kind of a gray area right and it's not always crystal clear. I mow my own lawn because the the city doesn't come out and mow my lawn. >> Yeah. I'm just kind of I mean I'm only utilizing my my because I I know I have a weird little one. >> Yeah. Um but it's like >> Well, you have a a trail there in front of your place. I mean it it's the sidewalk. I think the homeowner to show their sidewalk I think >> in Minneapolis I think. Oh yeah. Maybe that's another topic of conversation >> because I guess that's part of my right now. You I >> know. Well, we don't have a ton of city um sidewalks, but like not not including county trails, not any other trails, but I'm just trying to think I can't think of too many other downtown areas on the sidewalks. >> Well, residential sidewalks. I mean, >> this is great. Well, I've had a number of people comment on the fact that the city's out clearing the trails walkers. That's you. >> But you're on the county. Did it Did the county do the county road sidewalk? >> No, you guys do it. >> All right. So, let's after 2025, do we have any fun? Do we determine how much funds we have allocated for this? >> Yes. Like like you were saying, um we just don't know what the future holds. The mo if I drained all of these funds, it would be 18,500 and as Mr. Dick and mentioned that would we don't that would leave no more money for parks this year and that would leave >> really no more money for for street maintenance materials or landscaping materials. >> So I think John's recommendation is reasonable. >> So I'd recommend that we give staff that direction to utilize up to $10,000 of the of those funds that you've identified that we can reallocate >> that that my >> I would focus on the park the the actual land owned by um the city like >> public mentioned that they feel that they can actually tackle a majority of the parks trees in town have a better idea of what the primary hazards are to the city from from a latigious point of view those trees comfortable. >> Yeah. >> Start with 10 grand and and then we'll budget more for next year and hopefully do that as soon as you know possible in the season next year and get better rate. Yeah, >> we're creating a precedent because I don't want to create a precedence that you plant anything and if it doesn't work out or it dies, the city's going to come in and pay all these expenses because other people aren't I mean, it just seems like it's benefiting the property owner to have the tree removed because it's dead and other property owners remove their own trees. So >> I think in the future moving forward we're going to prohibit planting in light of period >> with a previous penalty. >> I think it would be just like anything else in city code that violation is a misdemeanor >> and with a code to like remove it right away. Essentially, it would say no planking in right ofway is allowed unless it has prior approval of the city forester, which would be wrong. >> I would say blanket because you're asking the city to take down to maintain your property. It seems like I don't know why we're not billing it back to the city um the person that owns it and the city and they're taking care of their own property rather than the city stepping in and using the tax base, but all the property owners in the city stepping in and taking down caring for your property. >> Difficult council decision. So >> that that's >> well the current resident did not plant the trees that they have in their >> How do you know? >> Well, because they'd have to live here for 40 years. Maybe maybe there are >> some of them. >> Yeah, maybe there are two. But it also could have been planted by the city. >> That's the part that I would like to get rid of >> nature. Right. What are the trees that are on the a wall the barrier wall for um u orno orchard any of the trees on >> what was it somebody was telling us along that wall wasn't there like road bushes or something that were all cut down to the ground or >> Yeah I think I think they >> were some of those >> okay there was some concern about [Laughter] There's these three videos we can find on that or something. >> We both have pistols. >> That's another discussion. >> Well, you have my opinion. I I think at one point we don't want to kind of continue to kind of have to take down trees in people's front yard because we planted them. >> Yeah. I'd love to see what example ordinances from other cities the cities have done. I could envision where if a homeowner you know city gives permission the homeowner is in writing and that property file that if that tree ever needs to come down it's responsibility of the homeowner no matter who that homeowner is. >> No matter who the prior homeowner the future homeowner. >> Sure. What's that? >> I I think in principle no planting in right away period is probably >> just the industrial area. There's a lot of industries, right? And those smaller ones and and I mentioned this last time, but uh wouldn't be helpful for for the ones that you guys do take down in parks. Do you have the equipment you need for that? Leave it. >> Yeah. >> So, like with the what? The ones you're hiring out of these out of this whatever money we allocate tonight. >> Yeah. >> No. >> Interesting. >> They cut it down all the way to the ground >> and leave it. Okay. You had to pull out a stump that takes a fair amount of work. I mean, you need more than cutting down. >> I think you got you got to get a bunch of them to make grinder worth it. >> Is there any cost savings for partnering with neighbor cities? >> I don't know the answer to that. Uh, so far they nobody seems to be >> Is it a regional? It's a regional issue that we're all facing. If there was one bid we could get among, hey, we have Wisetta, Orno, Long Lake who all need this or a proposal. >> Of the ones that I reached out to, they were all using different contractors. None of them were actually using even the same common contractor. So, um >> maybe not this, maybe it's too early this year, but maybe next year when we approach it, we can just have an agenda item to say, "Hey, is there something that we could make a a proposed a bid a bid for proposal to take care of all three of these c So what about other cities that are um kind of smaller lower tax revenue? >> Maple is taking them for example. Maple plane is very comparable. >> Okay. Based in size and population base. Um they are actually uh provide they're taking one section of their city at a time providing notifications to those they are going through and utilizing I believe they were utilizing the services of two different contractors to remove the trees and >> so do they have the number of ashere are they comparable in ashtree dead ash trees >> I don't know the answer to that I didn't ask them that quite specifically >> because it's I I would say that's possible. I've driven through it enough to say there are probably areas that do have more. >> All right. Okay. Well, I'll make a motion to authorize um $10,000 in funding for public works staff to hire um contractors to remove um uh dead uh trees at uh public works director's direction on public rightways and our city owned property. >> Motion a second. Any further discussion? No. Go ahead. >> Dead or dying? >> Dead or dying? The states are all already dead, right? >> All right. I motion second. Any further discussion? All those in favor? >> I opposed. >> I Okay. You're only making a small dent and a lot more. >> We're establishing precedence that we're paying for everything. >> Sure. >> All right. With that, thank you staff and thank you Janette for pulling that one together at the last second there. Uh with that, we'll move on to item 7C, the fire department transition future fire services news and update. A couple updates to me is uh late last week we received the latest um draft of the joint powers agreement from city of Boro and given to our city administrator and passed on to council member Dakai. So we're reviewing that along for city attorney and we will have a meeting in the near future uh in the next couple weeks hopefully with our counterparts at the city of Orno to actually have a face toface meeting to go over the draft and hopefully any issues worked out at that face toface meeting and then hopefully we can have we can bring the draft powers agreement to both councils here within the next you know three to four weeks or so we have to see how how that goes and get the meeting schedule and that sort of thing but getting getting close we have just a small handful of of details that we need to work out yet between the two cities so that is coming to a head and then uh Late last week or actually last Monday, there was a ruling from the Minnesota Court of Appeals based on the city of Orno appealing the um um you know essentially verdict and the orders of contempt issued by judge Miller over the last year or two and that was appealed by the really the previous corno city council and you know judge or I'm sorry the court of appeals ruled in judge Miller's favor and really all but one aspect of that case and there ruled on the on the behalf of city of Long Lake. um back was you know not as relevant I would say as it was uh previously now that we now that we're having a good relationship with the new city or city council having working on the new joint powers agreement making some good progress with that but that court of appeals case has been the work for a matter of you know quite uh many months now because it takes a while to work itself through the process obviously update there um that case is available the court appeals ruling is available on the court appeals and you want to check that out. And actually, we should get that on our city website on that on that fire update information page as well. If >> you mind to maybe update the I that's part of my my duties. Thank you for reminding me about that. Yes. Yes. So, I will I will do that and help you with that. >> All right. Um so, that's fire updates for me. Anybody else have Okay, great. Move on to um and then I should say tonight there's a fundraiser for um for Weston Pascal occurring at um at Batn Brewing for a member of the fire department family child of a firefighter, one of our dead actually. So folks went to that and hope hope that was a good turnout for that event and a good fundraising. All right. So with that, move on to item eight. Other business. Go around the table here. Council newcomer. Councilman. >> Good. Thank you. >> Eric. >> Nothing for me. >> All right. I do not have any additional >> nothing. Oh. All right. And Amanda. Um, I just was going to mention to the council that next week or I'm sorry, next meeting we will be having representatives from Ellers here at at our council meetings. We discussed desertifying 1-6. So, if you have any questions for them, start sharing them. If you want to send them to me ahead of time, I would be happy to forward that to her. Um, just so that way we can make sure that any questions are answered appropriately. >> So, getting money um >> she will be explaining all of that. Um, actually worked very closely over the last couple months to make sure that the process is done smoothly and that all of our fees are crossed in our >> and the purpose for that again is to apply funds towards a sanitary project. >> Okay, >> that was what they approved as qualifying expense >> due to development. >> Good. Thanks for the precursor on that. I know Janette's working on having our state senator come here in the next month or two. She requested to come visit us and that will be agent at some point just to give legislative update. >> October. Okay. Excellent. All right. Great. All right. Last call. Nothing else. Our next meeting is going to be on >> Tuesday, September 16th. Yes. We have a trip. >> Tripate as well. >> Work session. >> Oh yeah. >> EDA. Are we thinking we might have a UDA meeting? >> We have to have an >> Oh, that's part of that. I then you guys >> All right. All right. If there's no objection, I'll adjourn the meeting by general consent. hearing. None. Meaning adjourned at 7:18 p.m.