We think the audio is good tonight. >> Yeah. Little you last time with something. >> I can actually bounce out to the other room and check >> whatever you're comfortable >> while you are doing your mayor comments. I can certainly >> unless he thinks he did what he was supposed to do. >> We'll find out. >> Okay. >> All right. Calling to order the February 17, 2026 meeting of the Lone Lake City Council. Good evening everyone. It's 6:31 p.m. All council members are present this evening with the exception of Council Member Quali. Uh first order of business, second order of business is the pledge of allegiance. Please join me. To the flag of the United States and for all >> you have to say it on your own. All right. Welcome, welcome. We were waiting. Good timing. All right. So with that, we will move on to item number three, which is merit comments and and yeah, I'll call members are present now. Mayor comments, long review updates. Not a whole lot to report on since we met two weeks ago. Yesterday was President's Day, so everybody had a nice holiday weekend. Obviously the offices were closed. Coming up, a reminder coming up this Thursday the 19th from 5:00 to 7:00 pm is an open house sponsored by Mindot at the Weisetta City Hall regarding the upcoming Highway 12 construction project which is going to have an impact through Weisetta and Minnitanka and therefore those that are traveling west to get down to Lone Lake and and parts west. So Thursday 5 to 7 open to the public long or I'm sorry Yeta City Hall. So with with besides that, no major um updates over the last couple weeks. Knock and wood. Things have been fairly uneventful. Okay. With that, we'll move on to item four, which is to approve this evening's agenda. I'll make a motion to approve tonight's agenda. Second. Motion and a second. Any further discussion? All those in favor signify by saying I. I. Opposed. Motion carries unanimously. And I should have mentioned at the beginning that we did not have a city council work session tonight. There was no uh nothing to discuss at a work session. Okay. Item five is the consent agenda. Items A through D on the consent agenda this evening. Any questions for staff regarding items on the consent agenda? >> Well, it was nice to um get some donations for Dell computers. >> Yeah. >> Just kind of calling that out. >> Fantastic. Right. Right. And um just curious, so on the um $4,000 for the escrow adjustment, is that a return? >> It is a return. Correct. Um WSB cost so far has come in much lower than expected and I thought it was appropriate to spend um a majority of the growback. We did retain a little bit for when we close out the bond line. The bond >> the maintenance fund. >> Thank you. The maintenance fund. I kept a little bit on hand for that, but otherwise it was appropriate to most of the project completed. >> Oh, that's all. >> All right. Any questions? Not entertain a motion on the consent agenda. >> I'll make a motion to approve tonight's consent agenda. >> Thank you. Motion and a second. Any further discussion? All those in favor? I >> opposed. Motion carries unanimously. Uh, six, open correspondence. Open open correspondence is an item on the agenda in which the public may address the city council. No formal action is taken by the city council and comments should be limited to five minutes or less. Open correspondence comments may also be emailed to city staff by noon on the date of the meeting. Any written and submitted open response? >> Nothing. Thank you. >> All right. That we'll move on to regular business. Seven. Regular business. Starting with 7A. approved liquor licenses for Palman Pine Hospitality LLC doing business at San Poncho Restaurante. You Janette. >> Thank you, Mayor. It is indeed. Um, we have new ownership of San Panto Mexican Restaurant in Town. I should say previously San Hanto Mexican Restaurant. um Anhill Luna and Finesse Luna of Palmine Hospitality LLC purchased San Hanzo uh back in December and also submitted a complete liquor license application at that time. I have to say it was very thorough and very well put together. So that was that made it really easy by the time I received it. Everything was great. Um background investigation of both the owners has been completed as required by city ordinance. Everything looks, you know, clean and clear there. and um the way that a police department has no objection to the issuance of the licenses as requested and we are recommending adoption of the attached resolution to approve the liquor licenses tonight. Um before we do that though, I'd like to introduce Mr. Luna to come up and um answer any questions you may have as a as a council about uh the changes. They will be changing the DBA. So instead of Sanonto Mexican restaurant, it'll be Santo restaurant. Really, it's got the key on the end. So >> great. Welcome, Mr. Luna. >> Thank you. Um, honor to be here. Happy to be here and be part of the community. Of course. >> Yeah. And uh yes, slightly changed the name and um you I think I was in there last week I met you. You gave a quick little presentation as far as you wanted to be more of a community type restaurant. >> Yeah, I think that there was a little bit of concern knowing that we were coming from Smith that we were going to bring something more high-end and things like that and um that's not correct. We still going to keep some fun with the community restaurants. Uh our focus is to bring good quality traditional Mexican food. The reason why we removed the Mexican side is because we again um um wanted to keep it traditional central Mexico and and I think that we sometimes want you put that message on work kind of gets people confused in between Mexican tests and so and so. So I just wanted to keep it as a restaurant and then the um be able to u be able to talk about while you're in the table. um either with me or a server or anyone else. So yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm happy to be here. Um excited. Uh I moved with my family to Orno area eight years ago. Uh we worked in Zara for 12 years. Uh this is the area where we hang out as a family. This is our spot, Red Rooster San Pancho. And um um the time that we've been here, we believe that um there's a great opportunity for to bring some good food and good service for the uh Long Lake and surrounding community. >> Why the menu be changing a little bit? >> Would the menu be changing a little bit? >> Yeah. So, uh uh I think some time was the u um um a little bit more towards the test. Um I'm going to My style of cuisine is pretty central Mexico traditional food. Uh so some of our staples is what um we're going to be making fresh tortillas in house. Uh all everything is fresh made from scratch. Um uh we're going to bring some uh right now we u uh we're all about tacos and some ultra items. But um um you know many of my bowls later after we're going to bring some maybe things to share. place and then for dinner maybe more like site but again everything's going to stay casual serving the step community. >> Yeah. >> Well, I can make a motion. >> I was going to say I did um send um the council a link actually to the website so you can take a look at the updated menu and the updated branding which actually is looking great by the way. >> Yeah. Um, so if you're interested, you'll find that in your email. Just take a seat. But thank you. >> Just a couple more things. Um, so um, so I think that, you know, living in the area, um, um, it helps my wife and I to understand what the community kind of needs. Uh, everybody knows, right, Smith Cove is a great place to go. Everybody knows that at least in the area knows how busy it gets in the summer and how hard it's to get to those places, right? So I I because I open and run systems for 12 years, I know those places are more of a destination because there's a lot of people that come from Minneapolis, out of town, whatever, right? Um it's so hard for the locals to get to those places sometimes, right? And and have some good food. So I think that Red Wooster has done a tremendous job in the last eight years. Uh but it's still some more opportunity for more for another place or more places that can bring some more good food and good So, we're thinking of eventually add things like brunch, uh things like maybe coffee and pastries in the morning or at 11. Um I mean there's a lot of things that we feel is part of the community that is still missing and that along with Red W and all those places that are around the area we can bring to the community. I mean I I did a little bit of research and I mean Long Lake has grown quite a bit in the last year and a half and I think that there's the the demand is there and and I think that all the restaurants that work here, we can definitely um fulfill that. >> Well, welcome to Long Lake. Great. Thank you. >> Happy to be here and excited to bring something else to the community. >> Make a motion to approve the liquor license for Palm and Fine Hospitality LLC doing business at Stan Poncho. You're on. >> Second. >> All right. Motion and second. Any further discussion? All those in favor? >> I opposed. Motion carries unanimously. Congratulations. >> Thank you. >> Yes. >> I will reach out tomorrow when we'll start talking details for finalizing paperwork for today. >> Thank you. >> Have a good night. >> Okay. Moving on to item 7B. approve a proposal from CAPS public sector solutions for fire service consulting services benefiting the Shoreline Fire Department um under the 2024 fire service planning grant. Amanda, >> yes, I will take this one. Um the council recalls back in 2024 the city of Long Lake worked with the city of Wisetta on um applying for a fire service planning grant that would assist in some administrative as it as it applied to um fire department efficiencies and service areas. This grant was awarded to the city of Long Lake and we have until this year to utilize it. So, I've started to reach out to some contacts of mine and I was put in contact with a gentleman by the name of Mr. um with Capstone public sector solutions and I I contacted him and explained to him about the grant explained to him about how far we've come with our JPA line fire department and also our desire to continue to work with neighboring communities on finding better ways to serve our community um and and any cost sharing that might be available. Mr. Strike informed me that he had extensive experience in this field. He's worked with multiple JPAs and independent fire departments across the state and felt that he could just he could really bring a lot to the shoreline fire department and the life at our fire department. So today I'm asking council to approve um us entering into an agreement with Mr. strike with the Capstone public sector solutions and authorize myself to execute this agreement and then to use the fire service planning grant funds that the long the city of Long Lake has received for these services. I have talked to the Shoreline Fire Board. They are supportive of this and I have also agreed to pay the $4,000 match that would be required with the grant. So the Shoreline Fire Department is willing to pay that. >> So there's no cost. >> There would be Correct. Well, >> one question I have about that because it does match up like uh we've got the $4,000 grant um or the $4,000 grant. We've got the $4,000 from the shoreline to the fire department. So, that equals 44,000. But in BC, there might be some additional cost because they're not rolled into it. So we would be on the hook for those additional costs because the consultant will build a client IRS standard mileage uh mileage and other preapproved reimbursements are in addition to not to exceed amounts unless the parties expressly agree in writing. >> Correct. One thing I should mention to um spoken with John Baines today a little bit. There are some changes minor tweaks we might be making to the agreement. Okay. However, one thing that you're noticing in that agreement is originally when he gave us a code, it was for $30,000 in services and I told him that I felt like there was still a lot of opportunities in the areas and I didn't want it to be um capped at 30,000. Our grant was for 40 and he felt like there were other areas and so that's where he added additional information about possible >> but but you could also put those expenses in the 40 ceiling so that >> correct. Yeah, that's that's what I told him. I said >> so so that language of additional potentially additional cost should be >> not to exceed 40,000. Correct. And I will be working with John Williams a little bit. Him and I had a conversation today um as far as one other area that he he just wanted to tweak a little bit. Like I said, it wouldn't it wouldn't change the integrity of the agreement. It was very mild. But yes, I will make sure that we make note that it was to not exceed $40,000. >> So this question I have is work product or intellectual property. Um, and so the consulting grants us a non-exclusive royalty-free license to use the deliverables. Now, I guess what I would say that's great. We have a license to use what we pay for, but shouldn't we own what we pay for and I kind of would push for this is one of the items that u Johns and I were talking about. We're if you recall, we're not buying software or any such item in this situation. It would um Mr. Strike offers consulting services. He offers it would be more of a consulting service thing where there wouldn't be anything necessarily tangible that we're going to be leaving with other than any reports that he might give us. And that is actually an area that that is the area that John wanted to make sure >> that we addressed. >> But we own that >> that we own. Yes. But it's very clear in this agreement that certain um things that are his and just standard for other clients are his and we can't use that. But >> it says though that the client will own the final report and be >> yes and that was one of the areas that John Mr. Vain was mentioning today. Um he wanted to clarify that because it's services we're looking and we're not purchasing for instance the software that we understand that any services or any items that he uses to generate these reports are not the property of the city of Long Lakes but that we would then have complete rights to everything >> deliverable >> deliverable yes >> that he produces >> well his del agreement >> is there an actual list of deliverables. >> Not not to be determined but >> pretty much yes because I have asked him. So Mr. Strike will be meeting now with um after talking with him I met with Weisetta with Aurora from Weisetta and made and kind of made sure that this was an area that she felt comfortable with because I do know that they were a large part in obtaining this grant and her and I have agreed that once we get all the approvals situated then um we will probably to the full fire chief of city of Wisetta and Sherline um and they will then work with Mr. Shrikes design practice in most most beneficial areas and so he was keeping it kind of broad in this situation so we could have both a board approval and a council approval but once he meets with the fire chiefs then they will they will determine a plan of action if >> I can make a suggestion yes um when we do reach the point making a motion. I'd suggest on the first motion that we add the phrase subject to final amendments by the city attorney at the very end of it. >> And John kind of realizes stealing cap is something that pretty easy fix and also two that we own would have a final report so that it can be >> correct. He wanted to just get a little bit of clarification on that. >> Okay. Because the next paragraph says, I know I'm probably repeating myself. Um, anything uniquely created as um not as a city specific work product. >> Correct. >> That's clear. It's the other one that >> like I said in this situation, it's going to well that and there was an area in there where it talked about um it was up for interpretation or if the data data delivered. Yeah. And he wanted to a little bit of clean up for that as well. Okay. So, yes, I did ask John. I said the changes that you're recommending, do you think that they're necessary to go back and table this? And he said no. He said this it's a pretty straightforward agreement. Um it's for consulting services. So, a lot of things in consulting are going to be up for interpretation as far as whether we find them beneficial or not. Um we're not we're getting someone's opinion. That's what we're trying to opinion. And so, the grant when we get it done by June. We have to get all the services by June or can we set up contract? >> Um, >> I'm going to be I've been working I've been trying to work with the representatives of the grant. I think right now we are going to be paying for his services up front and long have to pay for that and submit reimbursement. Um, but it may it may be a kind of a situation where once once it's determined what he can provide. Mr. Strike is set to come to the next shoreline board meeting and the city of Wetta has been invited to that as well to give a presentation. So I'm thinking that we are going to pay for it within the timeline and if the services exceed the timeline that is >> I say we pay for within the timeline but not prepay the whole thing. >> Correct. Yeah. We'll make sure that things have already been >> I think the money has to be spent by June. Yeah, >> you guys have had discussions about this fire board and it was received really well, I think, by the other members of the board. >> Um, and so there was really no issues that I saw. >> I'll make a motion to approve the proposal for capital and public sector solutions for fire service consulting and to authorize the city administrator to execute the agreement subject to amendments by our city attorney. All right. Motion and a second. Any further discussion? All those in favor? I opposed. Motion carries unanimously. And I'll make a motion to approve the use of 2024 fire service planning grant fund for consulting services provided by Capstone Public Spector Solutions for the Shoreline Fire Department. Is that also subject to >> We'll get there. Okay. >> What was that presentation? It's in early March. I can send I can >> March 11th is when >> city council >> I did verify and we might do it just to be careful. I did verify that if any city council members attend in the audience and do not participate in any of the conversations that we would be if it were to happen then we're okay but just as as you know >> I would notice it as >> I'm on the side of caution. Thank you. >> All right. I'll I'll sec. You got a second. Okay. >> Okay. We got a motion and a second fight over that. Any further discussion? All those in favor? I opposed. Motion carries unanimously. All right. Thank you, Amanda. We've had that grant for uh a year or two now. So, it's good to have it uh be able to utilize it, especially now that Shoreline Fire is is up and running. >> Yes, I'm very I'm very very excited for some building. >> Yeah, nice job. Okay, moving on to item 7 C. Approve the Greater Lakeland and Tanka Area Legislative Coalition cost sharing proposal for legislative representation. Did you want to start this off Janette or you want me to do the whole thing or what are you thinking? >> I think I'll defer to you, but I will make this one note um in advance. You're going to see that the um motion there that we're recommending this evening is a little wordy, but it does represent all of what the group is asking for. It's asking for uh looking at a cost sharing proposal, participating, you know, authorizing participation in the coalition and kind of formalizing that. And then yes, so the motion actually is representative of what um the background was requesting. participating cities to do tonight. >> All right. Thank you. >> With that, I will defer to the gentleman who knows. >> Yeah. Just a little background information. I think um I think all of you have mentioned this two or three times before the last couple months that this has been sort of in the works and now we're getting to the point where they would like uh cities to pass resolutions about it. is the concept is we have a lot of similarities when it comes to Lake Minnetonka communities when it comes to our our housing our you know demographics our issues that we face infrastructure issues that we face and is there a way to bring that um bring us together in kind of a a cohesive um coalition to um get more more resources for our area and to you know lobby for our needs that we have as as kind of unique communities here in western HA county. So there's really three premises behind this lay out in front of you there, but protecting local controls um over over municipal functions, particularly zoning and land use regulations. Now that is tied to there's other groups working on this as well like league of Minnesota cities and a lot of lot of push back as to what reg or um statutory proposals that have occurred over the last couple years when it comes to zoning issues and um in densities and controls that some legislation would put into place that's been been pushed back on but it'll continue to come up but eventually there's probably going to need some sort of workable solution for that that cities are immenable to. So this lobbying effort would would um speak on our behalf when it comes to that. Secondly, regional infrastructure. You know, a number of our cities in our in our area have infrastructure needs. We're certainly one of them when it comes to roads and sewers and and water. Several other cities are experiencing the same issues, but we're, you know, we we tend to kind of get to be on the bottom of the list for those those needs. So this effort would reach would aim to address that. And then property tax reform. This is probably not doesn't impact our city as much as some of the other cities involved, but some of the other cities have been getting, you know, 20% increases, for example, in their county portion of their property taxes over the last couple years. And and so they're um you know, paying they're paying a lot and you know, arguable as to whether or not they're getting some return on the investment when it comes to those taxes that you're paying. So the goal would be to get support to when it comes to that third one to see if there's any any way to maybe provide some sort of tax property tax reform for some areas in our community or cities in our community. Um there's nine communities so far that are part of this. Uh it's listed below. There's a couple that were initially going to be a part of it and have since decided not to. One is Menita and one is actually Orno. They vote on this last week or week or two ago as I was the only one that voted in support of it. I There were some concerns about it not being in their budget, but they did have a um the cost share math formula resulted in them paying quite a bit more. I think it's around $10,000 where ours is um um you know $1,927 currently and same with menrist. I heard from menrist their concerns about the the cost of their city, but the the amount did decrease since I last wrapped this up. The lobbying firm, which is why based reduce their overall cost for the in the proposal since uh in the last just a couple of weeks. And the prime prime person here is Carnival Burns. He's been carrying based out of Weisetta and he was the state representative years ago and also on the Weisetta city council and has quite a few connections in the legislature. So, this is just kind of getting started this year um with this legislative session. We'll see where that takes us and if that if there's a desire to to have it continue on in further years. And the city of Deep Haven has graciously agreed to administer the the contract with the law firm. initially was going to be orno but when they backed out then deep haven stepped up and this final was mostly being led by the mayor of deep haven kind and co-led I would say by the mayor of all right with that being said any any other questions about this one or materials that you've read >> so quick question so the question uh is what they're advocating for seems generally aligned with what we would want and that's but there's no oversight oversight is just with the city of New Haven. Um it seems like there was a date I'm just kind of speaking out loud. There was a proposal for DPA in terms of like having sort of a board or something to kind of hear what um going on with the actual down the road issues that were commenting on. It seems like this is probably a preliminary uh step because the issues are very narrow, but when they get kind of broader, is that something that will be part of the DTA? Um my biggest concern is uh it goes off track and they start advocating for things that really long life doesn't want to advocate for. >> Right. Yeah, that's been brought up. Absolutely. And this is for this year. This is the these are the three things. So there's really no other there's you know no other items that should be brought up. We kind of agreed agreed on these as the the mayors that we meant to discuss this that starting here. See where that takes us next year. We can always set up a system to have more or you know dive off into some other areas but for now >> like an oversized board that says yes I agree to do this I agree to do that >> right yeah we didn't we didn't have there's not a huge structure involved in setting up like a that I'm aware of at least setting up a you know chair vice chair that kind of thing to to oversee it's mostly going to be the um you know the city of deep overseen the JP because not every JPA has I mean we have like a fire board which is obvious but or the fire shring fire Not every JPA has like a you know a board behind it per se. There's lots of you know JPA out there that I don't always have a board associated with them. So >> So you feel pretty comfortable that the issues are narrow and that you feel like you're the uh you can approach the people doing you could approach them and say kind of what is it that you're advocating for things off the rails. >> Yes. Yeah. Absolutely. Right. would see that. But yeah, if it were to come up, that's not going to be a problem. We we discussed that it needs to be cohesive. We can't just go off and have one city say, "Hey, I want I want this and and that kind of thing." It's got to be a joint consensus. >> How often do you meet with all of these mayors? >> It has not been a regular scheduled meeting. We've we've there's been I think four meetings total. I think I've been able to make two of them and and it's been about once a month on average, but not like a set, you know, date and time or anything. >> Okay. So this is sort of just this fashion >> this initial agenda item, right? And that we would have to agree to pay to continue on rolling into in the next year. >> Okay. >> Essentially, this is sort of the pilot episode of a new series, >> right? >> Do I understand or not participating? >> Not this this year, right? It may be something they look at next year. you know, it's sort of like, you know, it's a fine line because, you know, if you're not if you're not paying, but you're getting benefits from it. I mean, that's, you know, they part that are out. There's so many cities involved and yeah, we'll see where that where that takes us next year if they decide to join or not. It' be great great if they did, but that's for them to decide obviously. >> I think it's great that they're >> we're coordinating our um messaging for all of the community. >> Yeah, I I agree. really good good to have these kind of partnerships to be learn as we've learned with fire strength and numbers and and our understanding is the legislators will be more likely to listen you know and this could be at the county level as well county um county level as well and more likely to listen to us if we're if we're nine cities versus one city so that would be good to have that all right unless there's any other questions I'll entertain a motion on this one or I'll make the motion actually because it's So loud for so long. Yeah, I this is my punishment. Okay. So long a motion authorizes city's participation the greater Lake Mitanka Area Legislative Coalition to approve cost sharing in a proposal from Carnival Burn PA to provide legislative representation for the coalition with the city lawmak share of the expense at approximately $1927 and to direct staff to work collaboratively with the city administrator of the city of Deep Haven as the coalition designated. >> I'll second that. Thank you. Motion and a second. Any further discussion? All those in favor? I opposed. Motion carries unanimously. Thank you for that. Okay. Item 7D is the appointment of the human resources or human resources subcommittee members. Who wants to kick this one off? >> Up to you. Uh >> oh. >> What's your coin? you started out um when the council met at um your first organizational meeting earlier this this year um we went through the list of city appointments but did not appoint any members to the human resources subcommittee at that time. The committee had only met very briefly um and you know just on one occasion and so we really weren't sure that we were going to see this something that would be an actively needed board for this year. However, that was a bit of an oversight probably on my part because we've been working on, you know, an employee handbook and a complete overhaul based on the league model and taking into account so many new um, you know, ESFP, Minnesota paid leave, all these new laws and new policies out there that, you know, reflect current use of technology too, among other things. And um, that handbook is getting closer to being a draft deliverable and I I think it is we probably should have and would love to um ask council to appoint members to reestablish that human resources subcommittee tonight um because I think that that subcommittee will really have a role in working through that. We also have had you know some turnover at at the administration turnover and change at the administration and public works levels and there may be other opportunities for an HRS committee to meet related to that as well. So just um apologizing for the shortfall on my part and not requesting it be appointed earlier. Um but uh yes, I think we would be looking for two council members to be appointed tonight as well as appointing the city administrator and myself to the subcommittee um to so we can all work together on some of these things especially as we get into the handbook. a newcomer would >> I nominate previous issue with that. >> Oh, that's nice. Thank Thank you. Um and yeah, number one, well, let me back up step. So when no specific commitment as needed basis isn't like once a month or once a week, anything like that just >> as needed basis. I think what we're thinking and and it would really probably be I'm getting ticked off by the handbook unless we have some um city staff re reorganizations and stuff that I just want to work with the HR committee on making sure that all city staff are appropriately titled and compensated. Um, obviously the HR committee would then be working on making sure that I am as a new city administrator. I'm also being held um city council. Um, and so I I think that I would almost like to see it on a regular basis, maybe more than as needed, but that's something that we would work through is just trying to reidentify what it looks like. Um, what what our new reorganization looks like and what council would like to see from city staff and vice versa because I also was we don't we don't need this and actually As more and more things have come up and some brainstorming, I think it would be nice to have some other perspectives other than just trying to make these decisions common for city council to have instead of subcommittee. So that would be good. >> All right. And and I would propose that I know um even though council member Feldman would love to fulfill his his duties there um that both he and council member Dyk are are plenty busy this year with um with fire related the fire related JPA board that they're on. So I would look to maybe the rest of three of us fill in the gap there and that's great if you're willing to do that. You think that would work scheduling your thing? I'm willing to do it, but I don't want to overstep if you love >> I I think you'd be really good with that attorney bringing your attorney hat to this and all that. I mean, certainly willing to to help out, but if um if you're if you're willing to do it, that would be good. And um I mean, I mean, you're you're okay with that. >> I've spent a lot of time in HR and the president's office. Okay. >> All right. I'll make a motion to appoint and council member quali, the city administrator and the city clerk to the human resources subcommittee for 2026. >> I'll second that. All right. Appreciate you too. Any further discussion? All those in favor? I opposed. Well, I think he's bananas. >> Change your mind. >> All right. Well, we are we are moving along here. So, item eight, other business, council member newcomer. Um, nothing really. Um, I'd like to uh have a shout out to uh Kelly Grady for her organization of the the lake event. Um, I participated in I know there's no matter what side of the fence you stand on, that was a great community event, made a considerable amount of money and uh which is good camaraderie for a good cause and uh had a beautiful sunny day. >> Thank you. I actually meant to mention that address that in my mer comments, but I neglected to do that. So, thank you for bringing that up. That was a great and well well organized event. turned out pretty well. >> Yeah, footage. >> Yeah, it was a great turnout. >> All right, Felman. >> Um I guess uh couple fire things that um the board met. We did discuss um uh interviewing attorneys and whatnot. So there there was somebody that um John and Mike like John Cas is now it up there. But um they're moving ahead on getting an attorney and then the next big thing is IP over there. So we had a meeting this morning and we're working through what exists out there and what the requirements are. I think right now there's kind of a there's a lot of discussion needs to be had on what is needed versus what is wanted. Um so we'll get to the bottom of it, but yeah. Is there any fire any rebranding take effect yet on their truck? >> They're still working on the finalizing the logo and um yeah, then they're going to start rebranding the truck and equipment that I did see a boot hockey shoreline apartment. I got some of those. Yes, I think they're going to go through, you know, they're doing like a command vehicle or something first to make sure everything works. But, uh, yeah, the discussion on the logo is how much detail and whatot lessons we've learned the hard way when we went through our logo design process is that you really do have to think about how it will translate to black and white. >> Um, how it will print on a black and white copier, not just, you know, black and white line art. Um, and yes, embroidery 100% and at the same time, maybe not including one city or the other's elements, you know, if you have the or no read, you need a long rank element. So, >> yeah. >> Yeah, there's a lot there. >> Yep, that's coming along. And then the email addresses are still those are kind of lagging, but I think that's related to the IT question. So, you're still emailing people at >> the old Yeah. So that'll go away. >> Yeah, it's it's moving in the right direction, but there's a lot of pieces. >> All right. Thank you. >> Yeah. Councilman Dick. >> So a couple months ago, the Minha Creek wershed district revealed or shared a plan that they have for water quality in the in the wershed. not just the Long Lake but the broader watershed and um and that was that meeting that they had at Orno City Hall which was well well attended and uh you know it's a multi-year plan uh in fact I think they're executing some of it right now on County Road 6 um and um but there's other plans that they have um that should help to reduce the um the phosphorus and other um EMDLs that that flow and to the to the lake and to the broader not the far lake but the other lakes as well. And so um but during that that discussion um somebody brought up alum treatments and and uh from their perspective that was sort of the the thing you do at the end and once you once you have reduced the amount of stuff going into the lake then you can take care of what's in the lake. And there was a there was a group of people um that didn't necessarily agree with that, myself included. Um we think that you can do a parallel approach because otherwise, you know, it's going to be a long time before we see any improvement to the lake quality. And so the lake association um uh partnered or not partnered but but invited lake restoration to uh to a meeting that we had um a couple weeks ago and um and it was attended by members of the lake association as well as representatives from Madina and Orno and and then myself from Long Lake. And um the person there uh from Lake Restoration shared what he saw as the potential project that could be done in Long Lake that would um improve the the water quality um significantly and also then remove it from the impaired waters list because they've done that on other lakes. And I'm not going to go I have this presentation maybe I'll send it to you Janette and then you can share it. That's a great >> but but what I asked the watershed district or the um lake association is if somebody could come and present it to us because I I I was really impressed I learned a lot that I didn't know u like for example you don't when when some people were quoting numbers of what it would cost they were using the whole area of the lake and and you don't do the whole area of the lake necessarily you do those areas of of the lake that are more than 15 ft deep because I learned a lot of new terms like an octic where there's no where the oxygen is is almost non-existent or or very low below 15 and that's those are the conditions that release the phosphorus from the from the uh from the lake bottom and so that's where you really want to apply this um Allen treatment and um and so you're the area that you're covering is actually a lot less than the total area of the lake so instead of 280 acres you're probably applying it to less than 100 acres and so and and he was recommending um it would be first an engineering study to sort of go further although he had done it quite a bit. You know we had he had maps of our lake and and talked talked about what he recommended based on what he knows and that would be to do two applications instead of one full dose through two like half doses and it kind of is more effective because it it lasts longer. And by the way, the, you know, the studies or the other lakes that they've done show that if it's done right, an Allen treatment can last 10 to 20 years. And so there'd be a big benefit to to um to the lake and and its usability uh and and its draw for other people, you know, to come to Long Lake because especially after this last summer, I mean, it was it was pretty bad >> as bad as I've ever seen it. And who knows, maybe it won't be as bad this year, but you know, maybe there's cycles in that, but um but so just to throw out the numbers that that he said this could potentially cost. Um it's it's a lot, but it's not as much as as I thought it would be, but it was it was 200 between 200 and like he thought it was 294,000, but he thought it could be even as little as as 50,000 with the engineering. And then the first So, um, that's a lot of money and I know that, you know, Long Lake certainly isn't going to pay for the city of Long Lake. I mean, >> but, you know, we talked about, um, grants that could be an option there. There have been grants that have Bowser grants that have been um, awarded for other lakes. In fact, they were giving some other examples like um like big swan. I don't know where that is, but um they said that the the effect was immediate. You know, they they do that spec sheet disc um you know where you you see how far you can be into through the lake and it would like immediately go from like three feet to 15 feet or something. So, um it's a really dramatic stain and um so anyway so we didn't talk a lot about how how you know one would fund this kind of thing but but the association and I'm interested in seeing if if we can get some traction on on grants or um and in addition to that if the cities of uh Long Lake and Orno would participate to what level I don't know. Um and then maybe Madina because Madina is interested in because of the impacts of the broader watershed that that they're part of. And then uh you know there's there to thought it might be um but again because they have to they only have to target that specific where the phosphorus smaller area but so I'd like I I said here but I'd like them to come and and present this and plans they have expectations that they have you know >> who would you like us to reach out to to schedule that who would be the primary >> uh Jane Davidson probably >> and I know you know I know that right now you know we budget 5,000 a year related things, right? Which dent in that. But then I thought, well, what if what if we looked at our, you know, a 10-year contribution, for example, just to pick a number, you know, you know, it's $50,000 over 10 years, you know, might that and then if Orno, if we're oneird of the lake and Orno's two of the lake, and would they contribute their percentage, you know, and again, I haven't thought any >> uh because they have their long-term plan and they didn't see this as something that would be part of their plan until they, like they said, until they solve >> the runoff into the lake. I wouldn't expect that they would be part of this. Although having said that, I know that some of the other lakes that have been done through grants, the grants were actually provided through the watershed district of those lakes. It wasn't the Mini Creek, but um like um >> I think Bowser grants it there may need to be some level of MCWD. Yeah. >> Right. So maybe you're right and dear to that we would have to get them involved but they wouldn't be directly funding it but the grant might have to go through them. >> Right. >> And so um yeah >> the lake associations they really do have a unique because we do have an active lake association. >> They have a unique ability to launch things like fundraising. really put that out and anything like that is something that we can circulate if they were to do that that on our Facebook page as well. We can put that out, you know, on our listerve and try to help spread the word if that were to occur, >> right? >> You know, any kind of fundraising campaign. >> And I wasn't I'm not suggesting any numbers. I shouldn't have even thrown a number out there because I I I really have no idea um what how it would look, but it would be sort of this multi-pronged >> funded thing. But, you know, they were talking about or he was talking about the engineering part of this, which is 12,000 could start as soon as this summer and then they could do the alum treatment next year, the first phase, and then the next phase of the following year. Um, I don't know if we'd be ready to do it that soon, but uh I think there was a lot of interest to try to um, you know, make our lake more healthy and like I said, uh, get it off the impaired waters list and um, and then make it a more uh, inviting lake for for visitors to come and which would benefit our businesses and other things. >> It jumps into eight. It does. Yeah. >> Any talk of Lakeshore improvement district and kind of a taboo word states, but has that been brought up to a lid on Lake Long Lake? >> Uh, we didn't talk about that. Um, but that but yes, certainly the lake store owners um could or should maybe participate in this as well, whether it's through lid or or otherwise. Um, There aren't a whole lot of lake owners on the lake. I mean, there's probably what 25 to 30 guess. >> Um, so anyway, just want to introduce that and um and then see if we can get more information on that. >> I'll reach out to Jame >> and I'll send you the presentation. It's really not for broad distribution, but I think for for our council. Yeah. Did you say something from the watershed district was there? >> No. >> Uh I don't think so. Madina and Orno and then the waters association people were there. So I didn't. >> Can you clarify that the numbers you throw. Was that per treatment or was that the >> No. Well, all right. So, >> and I know they're rough numbers. >> Yeah, these are rough numbers. So, he said engineering is 12,000. That's to do sort of the the determine the scope and and then phase one he said could be 83 to 134,000. Phase two would be CBD if you need it. But he he did think that there would be two two treatments and so the total for the project he had ranging from 217 to 294. >> Okay. >> Um just and again this is a early rough estimate. >> I mean I had heard numbers almost twice that. So >> that's why I asked like hey this is a bargain >> but it's still a lot of money I understand. But it's it's also our our greatest natural resource, you know, as far as the the draw for our city, I think. >> All right. Anything else? That's it. Okay. Couple updates to me. I think on the same day I met with the Mini Creek Wershed District. I know I told you this but it was uh in a conference room here and they wanted to give James executive director wanted to give an update on what they're look thinking about for Lawn Lake as well the city of Lake. Um they are going long story short they're going to arrange with their city administrator to have a meeting probably in the spring we're probably do work session workshop with maybe an an hour even two hours in which They want feedback from us to what our commitment is, how interested are we in the in this project. It's a project I've been talking about for many years. I think since you've been on the council of addressing runoff that occurs from essentially Hullberrook Park in the crown of the creek by Hbert Park through the business district uh industrial district all the way down into the lake and that's amongst the highest that they have in a district is the runoff and with the um bad things in the runoff essentially a variety of things. So they have some ideas in mind to to address that. It's you know is an expensive project. Um they would probably look to have some sort of city commitment, but they have create creative ways of of doing it in ways that may look improve our city and talked about even maybe the creek could be pretty much goes this way. It could be rerouted or could have some beautifification along it or walking paths or water features or all that kind of stuff. So they can make it kind of doctorred up a bit. So more to come on that. Just want to give you a heads up that that we'll probably have a work session to discuss that and give feedback and and seems like we're getting a little bit closer, but but it's also a lot of money and money that probably we um you know haven't identified a funding source from the city for. So we have to discuss that and that plays into it. So that was the watershed district and Janet Schaefer was there as well by the way represent waters association. He was also on this call. >> She had a busy day that day. Tomorrow morning, I'm having breakfast with Congresswoman um Morrison along with other mayors in her district just to get an update from her from um the federal level of Washington DC. So, let me know if you have any feedback you want to pass on to our congressional representative. Other than that, nothing else major to report on my end. >> There's nothing for me. >> Wow. >> All right. City Maki. >> Um, I wanted to give council a few updates. Um, as far as the fire they made and I went over to the DMV over and we started the transfer, the title transfers to the shoreline fire department. So, I'm very excited about that. Um, also I wanted to give an update when you were mentioning the um, email addresses. Currently the Facebook there is a new shoreline Facebook page. The Long Lake Fire Department Facebook page currently has a title of Shoreline. We will have to wait 60 days I believe I said for that to be changed back to Long Lake Fire Department. Um, and whether or not we decide to keep that Facebook page live or not we will discuss at a later date. But right now fire department does have its own social media presence. Um, last week, >> sorry, just so that I was wondering how that was going to work because I know Long Lake Fire page has had has many many followers and I thought there was maybe a talk about just changing the name of that to Shoreline Fire since they had the majority that was said that >> yeah, they had >> there was just a lot of loopholes and such and Um, I hear also like changing locations or whichever. So, right now it still says >> the Long Lake Fire Department page still says shoreline fire, but they brought it all back the Long Lake Fire pictures and personally I'm not a fan of that. >> I think that causes a little bit more confusion. They did they did mention on there that Carolina has its own Facebook page and direct people to the page. And so, for a while until until residents are familiar with the page two weeks. But it will change back to Long Lake Fire Department within about two days >> and we'll maintain some sort of archive site or something for Long Lake Fire. >> We're going to figure out something. >> I think there was interest to do that. >> Correct. And we're just trying to find the best avenue. Um, given that the relief association owns that long lakefire.org desk site, I wonder if that could be repurposed to somehow be used as their archive. I don't know. >> We were never involved in that site. It was independent and >> part part of the shoreline transition fund. Um, last week possibly before I attended um the Ellers conference which was extremely interesting. I got some information on legislation legislative updates um and some information on bonding the process that we'll probably be using shortly for street improvements. Um and then big news for our city staff completed our 2025 annual audit last week. So has all the information They're going to be suing any new council probably um in a month or so. We have to wait. All the terra information isn't ready yet. So, we finished our audit before all the documentation ready to say it's final. So, there's a couple things that they need to wait on from other organizations before they can present to the council. They asked if we wanted to present it to them and I said it wasn't necessary. We could wait until the last bit of information was available so they could very much grateful for that presentation. >> Thank you, >> Janette. >> I don't think I really have anything. Thank you. >> Focusing on office moves and continuing the great records retention project of 2026. >> This one might go down in history for me, honestly. >> It's a big one. Um but uh yes, Amanda is fully settled in her office and off the front desk. Um also working on getting our positions posted. We had to kind of focus on getting council packet out the door as first priority last week, but the positions are in the audit. Yes, exactly. And a little of the move, but uh yeah, we're up and running and I should have those job ads. One of them online and live. The other will soon follow tomorrow. Great updates. Thanks for the organization of all of our records and else back there. All right. So, our next meeting is on Tuesday, March 3rd. Potentially a work session as well. >> Oh, and my apologies. Actually, I did forget. Um, I probably will not be at the next meeting. I am mom saying my mom surgery. So, doing a little overnight babysitting while my out of town. So I will not be asy. >> All right. More more than understandable. All right. Unless there's an objection, I'll join the meeting by general consent.