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Council Presentation: Fire Department Emergency Response Times/Cost Effectiveness Study (9/17/2024)

Long Lake City CouncilTuesday, April 15, 2025
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Long Lake Fire Department response time data analysis

Critique of the Orno fire services needs assessment

Comparison of service performance models (Contract vs. Current)

Methodological flaws in Oro's 2023 needs assessment

Evaluation of NFPA 1720 4.3.2 fire response standards

Data integrity concerns regarding Orno's final analysis file

Analysis of Station 2 response area metrics

Statistical benchmarking of fire department performance

Cost-effectiveness of emergency service delivery models

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Notable Quotes (2)

This was a Station 2 apparatus in a non-emergency mode acting as a backup to a station one event and that's the time that they selected when they're doing their needs assessment and coming up with this mythical 16-minute response time.

— Speaker
Methodology critiqueDiscussing how the 16-minute figure was calculated.

If you're not properly staffed, it's a real pretty shiny vehicle, but you need to have things properly staffed so you can't ignore Staffing in that type of situation.

— Speaker
Fire department staffingAddressing NFPA standard misapplication.

People (6)

JohnCity Council Member

Participated in prior discussions regarding Orno fire service comments.

Dennis WalshMayor of Orno

Made disparaging claims about Long Lake fire response; authored court statements on response times.

1 quote

“The Nar territory daytime week time response times were woefully inadequate.”

Claim made in a court document regarding Long Lake Fire Department service.

Mr. VanileFire Chief

Part of the communication chain that cut off access to data.

Mr. EdwardsCity Administrator

Involved in email threads regarding data discrepancies.

Council Member VCouncil Member

Informed speaker that officials were advised not to discuss response data.

CharlieAnalyst/Support

Assisted in extracting data from the Hennepin County Sheriff's Office.

Places Mentioned

Long LakeOrnoStation 1 (Long Lake)Station 2 (Long Lake Fire Department)Navar Casco Point1025 Old Crystal Bay RoadSpring Hill RoadBig Island

Events & Meetings (3)

  • May 2023: Needs assessment study conducted
  • July-August 2023: Orno Happenings release
  • July-August 2024: Comparative study timeframe

Ordinances & Resolutions (1)

NFPA 1720 4.3.2

Standard requiring 10 personnel on-site within 10 minutes for 80% of calls.

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