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Long Lake City Council Meeting - 6/17/2025

Long Lake City CouncilWednesday, June 18, 2025
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They've always had good programming there and everything. [Music] All right. All right. Calling to order the June 17th, 2025 meeting of the Lawn Lake City Council. Good evening, everyone. It's 6:32 p.m. and all council members are present this evening. Item two is the pledge of allegiance. Please join me in the pledge of allegiance. I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [Music] Item three is mayor's comments. Lik news meeting review and updates. So, uh, city council just finished a work session where we mostly talked about, uh, some upcoming roof replacement for city hall and some other capital improvements to to city hall in the coming um, months and years. So, that wraps that was what that was about. And, um, other than that, just summer's in the air. It's been great weather lately. Rains uh, rain's coming down. Good to see people out and about uh going to get ice cream or going to the restaurant or those types of things using our our local parks and beaches. Looking forward to hearing about Buckhorn Days 2025 here in a few minutes. So hopefully everybody's having a great start to the summer uh so far. Other than that, we'll we'll talk about a couple of fire department updates uh later in the agenda. And besides that, nothing uh major uh nothing of significance last couple weeks here since our last council meeting. So with that, we'll move to item number four, which is to approve this evening's agenda. I'll entertain. I'll make a motion to approve the agenda. I'll second. All right. Motion and a second. Any further discussion? All those in favor indicate by saying I. I. Opposed. Carries unanimously. Item five, uh, consent agenda. items A through D on the consent agenda this evening, including uh approving a six-month probationary status extension for public works maintenance worker and approving issuance of special event permit for the 51st annual Cornday's parade on August 9th, 2025, which maybe we'll get a little update about that as well this evening. But any questions from staff regarding items on the consent agenda? I just have a quick question regarding the McQueen. Um, we had some repairs on that. Is that now operational? Yes. Okay, that's good. That's a yes. Any other questions for staff? All right. If not, I'll entertain a motion to approve this evening's consent. I'll make a motion to approve tonight's consent agenda. I'd second. Thank you. Motion to second. Any further discussion? All those in favor? I opposed. Motion carries unanimously. Item six is open correspondence. Open correspondence is item on the agenda in which the public may address the city council. No formal action is taken by the city council and comment shall be limited to 5 minutes or less and open correspondence may also be emailed to city staff by noon on the date of the meeting. Any submitted open correspondence? Nothing. Thank you. Okay. So with that, we'll move on to item seven, regular business. Item 7A, special event permit request for Buckhorn Days 2025. Janette, you Thank you, mayor. Before you is the uh annual special event permit request for Bookhorn Days. Um, typically I tend to on the cons when they're pretty routine and the uh event is kind of same to same year to year. uh uh has some new stuff and I I think I turn that over and invite representing the chamber of um to come up about that. Terrific. Good evening, Mayor Schneider. Welcome. Thank you. Thank you, Mayor Miner, Council Staff. Marty Schneider, 1176 West Weisetta Boulevard, uh representing the chamber uh this evening. Um we uh changed the uh scope of buck horn news this year um significantly I would say um changes I'll start at the morning uh the carp fishing tournament is going to start again. Last time was 2022 and it was a separate event from Buckhorn. It's going to be part of Buckhorn Days. Um, we've filed correct permitting that's in the works right now and it is going to be um essentially under the chamber umbrella of the day. However, it's going to be actually put forth um we'll say sponsored by the Long Lake Waters Association. So the waters association as we know is engaged in as the presentation was last month to uh along with the watershed district help clean up the area the watershed and we know that carp are very invasive. So this will be kind of a a I would say a very public awareness campaign on their part to tell us more about what they do and hopefully we'll catch a few fish as well. Um the second item that happens uh in the morning uh before anything gets started with music uh the fire department which traditionally has their 5K at the end of July running out of station number one um they approached here uh with the idea of perhaps blending it into Buckhorn days so that the runners can have a bigger experience after the run with music, kids activities, etc. And it was sort of uh brought up conceptually last year. Uh given the politics of the day, shall we say, nothing was pursued. This year, it was brought up again. I know a number of you and I have spoken over the last month or two. Well, at the end of the day, the fire department uh and the committee within the fire department that uh made these decisions uh decided, hey, let's let's bring it on to Buck Days. Um the one thing I want to make very clear, I spoke to Chief Highland. This is not going to be a chamber event. It is going to always stay a fire department event. So, want to make that distinction. We're not take anything over. this is their event um within kind of the platform of Buckorn Days. The other nice thing, and I think probably many of you know more about this than I do, but apparently there might be a name reveal coming up here shortly for the new fire department. Could be still. Yeah. More discussions to come on that to be to be to continue. So that to be continued. So that may be something that is blended into the PR as we get closer to to 12. Um, so the run is going to, and I'll kind of put this up here uh as a uh uh reference. So, the uh fire department run is going to uh registration starts at 9:30 uh ends right around noon and it's going to take the route that follows the traditional gear west route which is up the uh lake path as we call it crossing the bridge um over 112 and then circling back through Harden Park. I'm not sure if it's running clockwise or counterclockwise, but it's all that same route. I think that's all been discussed uh already with staff thoroughly. Um and then um they had asked the fire department, could we start music a little early, so we actually found uh another band, Stampede, many of you might know, Southern Rock. They've been around the area. They're going to start at noon. So, we'll have music starting at noon. We'll have the kids activities, the inflatables, all set to go. So, it's really meant to be a bit of a follow through to the 5K um by the fire department. Food trucks, refreshments, jumpy houses. Uh another um addition I would say, uh uh we're seeing how it all happens and works out. I'll just put this here. uh the Lions decided, you know, we'd like to uh emphasize the car show a little bit more than we have in the past years. The past years, it was more just a a smaller show. So, on the west side of the park where usually there's the Frisbee golf tournament. Uh the Frisbee golf has been uh eliminated because usually there were only two or three participants. And again, the Lions to uh basically take the initiative on the car show, which uh we were fine with them doing. And uh so that's going to go from noon to 3, as you can see on the agenda here. Uh still going to have the bean bag toss, very popular amongst all ages, and doggy races from 4 to 5. And then additional item that is new to the agenda this year is we will be uh bringing in the Midwest Allstar Wrestling Group and that is a name you might recognize. It is Vern Ga's old organization. Not Verna, he won't be appearing. His old organization and in fact this is the ring that they used to use. Um, I'd encourage you all to look up their website, M AW, Midwest Allstar Wrestling. I really would encourage, this is not a oneoff for them. They do this throughout many, many different communities in the Twin Cities and in the state. Um, it is, uh, an all ages show, uh, familyfriendly, a lot of hoopla, etc., etc. You can see this is their uh poster that they'll be using to publicize. And um you know, we're thinking there might be uh room for say a council smackdown. I think I'm busy. I know I'm busy. Got loosened up. make a motion the name as you all know. You never know from me what to expect that day. So, um so that'll be a fun fun um I think interlude. Um we will not be having fireworks this year. Uh main reason is the expense went up according to the fireworks uh supplier because of tariffs. We don't know if that's entirely accurate, but um uh they were looking for about $7,500 for a 10 to 15 minute show. And um our friends at Midwest All-Star Wrestling are doing a 2hour show for about half of that, a little less than half of that. So with uh I think a lot more community engagement. So, um, other than that, items that we've coordinated and talked about, um, the fire department will have a presence there again for their 5K. They'll be looking to position some of the ladder trucks on Sim Street welcoming the runners in. And then we'll have a presence throughout the day with some of their units for families, children to engage with. They'll have a booth there as well as they have in the past. Um and then Weisetta PD Janette can speak to that a little bit more with the new chief there, but they're going to um have a presence there throughout the day um which we're very grateful for with a you know public outreach uh booth tempt as well. Um, the one item that I did not uh uh cover with Janette that kind of came up just as a thought as I was driving in here tonight um as part of our request if there were to be the possibility if we get the need for some overflow parking. We've got the bank already segmented. Got an agreement with patch down at the uh shopping center. However, um if there might be a chance to if there's overflow to open up the old BP lot if that's a possibility um again that would be very welcome uh just to know that that's uh in our back pocket as a possibility should we run into a big uh crowd for the wrestling match. M um with that I'll uh um ask if there are any questions or followup and again I think it'll be a very very nice day. The hope is that we keep kind of building the festival maybe uh in following years it might go to two days again so it wouldn't just be uh in name only Buckhorn days but in in reality uh Buckhorn days Saturday and Sunday as it once was. Terrific. It sounds like you've been putting a lot of work into this, Marty. So, we appreciate all your efforts on that. Great great things for our uh business. We're happy too. I know it's technically an orno, but Tala Vera um they'll again have their food truck there. They open up a nice uh as we know, of course, uh uh nice location in our, you know, service district for the chamber. And we're thrilled, needless to say, that uh um Doc Hartman is expanding. All those things are, you know, part of the business community, part of our community that uh you know uh having worked in Weissetta for decades, there used to be a veterinarian on Lake Street, no more now, of course, etc., etc. So, good things I think are happening in the business community, which I think helps all of us in many ways. So, yeah. spoke with Doc Hartnet yesterday. He said that he's too we're too short of a quartet. So, no. Uh Doc, I I'll just comment that um you know, I've I've got a uh shall we say sometimes some leverage with Doc. He's always saying that leading up to the show. He's a bit of a temperamental artist. His music, not his profession, but his music. So, and still a chance. I would say not to uh play on words, but stay tuned. Nice. Nice. Is this agenda on the website somewhere or of course we always like to follow protocol, John? Pending tonight's approval. It will be posted in the next two days. Yes. All right. I I will tell you just very briefly um we have um a really broad range of music. Um six possibly seven acts of music if we can fit it in. So, it'll be a a full afternoon, full evening of of good stuff going on. But yes, pending pending uh affirmative vote, we will be uh again pushing out our PR as we do. Great. Other questions for for Marty? Great. Well, we appreciate your work in this, Marty, and looking forward to good weather that day and everything. And and then yeah, if you'll let us know if the the P lot were to be available, weather permitting. Uh one thing I'll mention, just reminded me, um certainly the car show uh should it be bad weather or the turf uh too wet, car show would be moved elsewhere, probably to the bag parking lot. Okay. All right. Again, we want to be sensitive to that, of course. And we do have that in the event permit conditions as well. Absolutely. Just wanted to acknowledge that. So, was it the Pioneer Museum a year or two ago? I thought the car show got moved over there or Well, we we moved it over there and uh again, as you all understand, politics. Um there was some politics with the Lions Club where they really wanted to initiate a more um shall we say a larger scope car show. And so um we again not with the you know there there's always two sides to every discussion and uh um so there are some that feel a little bad about that but the room was somewhat limited up at the uh Pioneer Museum but we're hoping to reintegrate the Pioneer Museum in other ways going down the road. Gotcha. All right. Food for thought, but a future Wild West show out there. I might even have a connection on that one. Wow. I think that's a a wonderful idea. I I met some folks who actually run a Wild West show when I was camping this year. They recently just did a great one up. Have display. Yes, they do all sorts of fun stuff. Mhm. Consider that already as part of next year's suggestion box. Nice. I'll see if I can track down that business card for you. Nice. might push us over into the Sunday then and and and before you sit down, I know it hasn't been approved yet, but uh um Corin Day's parade will be on Saturday. Let me briefly cover Well, it has been approved. It has been approved. And again, we uh you know, working a little bit ahead of schedule on that. Uh but I want to really emphasize um so and again, thank you Janette for all the help. Um, applications are already out uh for the event. It is going to be, as you can see there, August 9th. A little bit of a nuance. It will be starting at 11:00 a.m., not at noon, so an hour earlier. Uh, I can't tell you exactly why, but it was very, very determined request by the staff at St. George's Church. So, I don't know if they wanted more time for the festival after the parade or, you know, you'll have to ask them, but we're okay with that. Um, should be the same. I guess what I'd say is to all of you, um, please plan accordingly so that, uh, city of Long Lake as always very well represented, uh, with your float, firet truck, however you know it's being done. And I'm hopeful and this is just my comment not a otherwise observation by others but last year there was a little bit of uh shall we say tenderness amongst the different fire departments of whether or not they should show up or not show up given politics of the day. And again we expect that perhaps some of those concerns have been now either smoothed over or are in the process of healing. So, we're really looking forward to a big uh first responder response as well going into this year. Agreed. I think we'll be I think that'll be much smoother this year at vision. So, yes, thank you. Uh for approving that as well and that'll be a nice uh nice event as it Yeah. Great. Thank you, Marty. Thank you. All right. Anyone wish wish to make a motion? Before you do, may I make a suggestion to help because there are a lot of permits associated with this. Um, if I may suggest um a a motion could be as simple as motion to adopt the resolution approving issuance of special event permit S2025.8 for the Buckhorn Days 2025 1-day festival and to approve all other licenses and permits as identified in the staff report. Okay. what Janette said. I make a motion to approve what Janette said. Second. All right. All right. Well, I'll make a motion adopt resolution number 2025-18 approving issuance of special event permit S2025-08 for the Buckhorn Days 2025 1-day festival to be held on July 12th, 2025. and to approve all other subsequent related permits. Something like that as identified in the staff report. As identified in the staff report, I'll second that. Thank you. All right. Motion in a second. Any further discussion? All those in favor? I opposed. Motion carries unanimously. May I add just one comment before we move on real quick? That um Midwest Allstar wrestling um Mr. Schneider is not kidding. It looks like so much fun. Um, after he told me about it, I couldn't resist looking it up and I may have squealled and giggled quite a bit at how delightful it looks. So, um, excited to see something new and out of the box at Bookhorn Days. I think it'll be really cool. I hope it'll, you know, get the crowd excited and hyped up a little bit. Um, just excited to see what Bookhorn Days is bringing this year. That sounds different and something different. Jesse the body ventura. Is he gonna be there or do we not? Is that not official? We can only hope. I'll just step on Have you seen him recently? I know. But it's my understanding that um there was going to be perhaps a food truck that appeared seasonally here in town. Um we talked to the chamber about that. Of course, that truck would be welcome on Sime Street with our other food trucks the day of. Janette, if you want to give me their number or if you want to contact them. So, I'll do. Thank you. Yeah, thanks. I was gonna mention that at about the the BP station or the BP lot there and that would be only conflict. So, I will be checking on that and following through on that. Let us know when we've got plenty of room for that. We'll do. Thank you so much. Thank you again. Thank you, Marty. All right. Terrific. With that, we'll move on to item 7B. Approve 2025 city street seal coating project. Sean, good evening, mayor, council members. My topic isn't nearly as exciting as buckhorn days, ever corn uh corn days, but uh it's just as important nonetheless. Uh before you tonight, I got a project that uh I thought was going to die in 2025. I really did. uh had two strikes against it up to about a week ago and I thought we were going to be better off doing it in 2026. However, things have kind of changed a bit and I'm asking the council a motion to award this project uh to our seal coding contract contractor Pearson Brothers out of handover uh in the amount of $59,819.17 or 76 sorry little bit of history. Um, back in the fall of 2024, um, we were looking at, uh, the next seal coating project and it was decided that, uh, the industrial park would probably be a good candidate. Uh, there's been portions of it sealed and portions of it not, and um, it's getting to the point where the whole thing needs to be resealed and um, sealed back up. Um last fall I had gotten a budgetary number from our contractor for 75,000. um that would have been covering the entire industrial park and um it came out it got trimmed to 60,000 and so without um changing the scope of the project the scope or the project was over budget for what we had and um in addition to that we had fiber optic contractor co come in in the spring and late spring of 2025 with little to no warning uh to the city of Long Lake. And so that was strike two. Um that was right of our scheduled seal coding uh date. Uh so so with those two strikes against us, we were looking at doing it 2026. However, the contractor called me um week ago Monday wanting to know what we could do to keep the project alive. And I told him, "Well, we need to reschedu it to get our fiber crews in and out of the area so we're not uh fighting each other to try to get your job done and their job done at the same time. Uh we initially had scheduled it in June to piggy back with Madina and I think it was Lorettto. Anyway, so that kind of fell through with that and um so then we decided that uh if you can get it done in August and keep the scope the same and get it to fit in our budget, we will certainly look at it. Well, by Thursday afternoon, all the moons and stars aligned and here we are. Uh, so we were able to accommodate the project as originally scoped to do the entire industrial park. We were looking at taking West Industrial off the scope and coming back and doing that later to fit into the $60,000 budget. Um, but I really didn't want to do that either. Going back to Chase Street on one project was not really what I was looking at. But um so we uh we got the quote and the scope stayed the same and they came to our proposed budget for our final budget number of 60,000 actually just slightly less and they're able to work it in in August and keep the partnership with the other cities alive too. So um it's been a giant mass of coordination the last 7 to 10 days to uh to potentially see this project come to life again. So, we're looking for the motion from the council to uh to move it along. So, with that, I'll take any questions. Questions for Sean? Appreciate your creative problem solving there and getting the the numbers down a bit and keeping a project going this year. And appreciate the know crews have been out filling potholes last week or so and nice seeing some of that maintenance done as well. And I imagine you'll you'd get your street sweeper running again. Is that going to be probably see out in that here in another week or two? It's been out a few times. We did the initial wave and then we've been kind of running behind where we've been patching to kind of clean that up, too. So, sure. You'll see it coming. Nice. If we had the staff to run it. Okay. All right. Any other questions for Sean? You know, I I see the list of the streets and you I know you already probably addressed this, but it looks like it's pretty much everything. It's everything in the industry part. So, that's good. Mhm. I'll make a motion to award the 2025 City Street Seal Coding Project to Pearson Brothers, Inc. of Handover, Minnesota in the amount of 559,829.76. I'll second that. Oh, did I say is 819 81976? I'm sorry. Yeah. Okay. All right. Motion is second. Any further discussion? All those in favor? I opposed. Motion carries unanimously. Thanks, Sean. Thank you. Thank you. Work. Okay. And item 7 C, fire department transition and future fire services news and updates. This is typically on our council agenda. Just a couple quick updates for me would be that we met a couple a couple weeks ago met with some officials from the Excelsier Fire District and got some feedback from them, some elected officials on what uh what their successes have been over the last uh 20 plus years and some maybe um areas of suggestions that they had for us. So I thought that was a really good meeting and good feedback from them representatives from Orno there as well as Long Lake and Madina and Minnitanka Beach some staff as well. So there's uh something that has occurred since we met last. Otherwise um we've you know we're continue both cities long and continue to work on a draft joint powers agreement and kind of having some uh productive back back and forth conversations and dialogue on that. Other are you working on with any other cities in addition to Orno in Madina or um those are the initial two that we're working with but we're also kind of keeping Menit Beach and Madina in the loop as well. Okay. Yeah. But so that was some updates for me. Quick updates. Anybody else got anything? I'll just add to to that. I don't know if everybody knows the uh Excelsure Fire District is actually a JPA very similar to what we're looking to create. It's not a true district. It is a JPA and it's uh it includes five cities uh of Excelsure, Deep Haven, Shorewood, Tonka Bay, and Greenwood. And so it was a really good meeting actually for us to see what they went through um the good the good, the bad, and and um and the challenges and and the benefit and all of that. So, um I'm hoping that we can incorporate that into um into our agreement or some of that um into our agreement with Orno and and um um yeah, I mean it's right now I think the JPA will have Madina as planned to be part of that. Correct. Uh so it'll be the three cities, but then we've also talked um inviting Minnitankka Beach to be part of it. It it all is going to kind of depend on how the numbers come out, I think. Um, but ultimately, I think, you know, we we would want more cities to be part of this as well. So, this is kind of a a starting point that hopefully will grow to um to a bigger organization. Yeah, that was very, very good and a lot of good signs for the future. So, and it was interesting to learn the Excelsier Fire District is is um very much based on paid on call firefighters. Like they didn't expecting they had more part-time, but they're very they good. Um I heard from Wisetta recently, too. They're doing very well with recruiting paid on call firefighters. Excelsier is is full currently fully staffed with paid on call firefighters. And yeah, that was interesting to me because we've been hearing a lot about how the paid on call model is is, you know, dropping off. I mean, they're just not getting volunteers like they used to get. However, it seems like Excelsia and Long Lake Fire have been bucking that trend. And now with Long Lake, you know, going with Orno and creating a new JPA, I think just the news of that uh I I learned that there was three more applicants. Uh you know, so I think there's there's going to be a strong paid on call presence in this uh new new JPA, which is uh which is encouraging. So, um I I the the pay on call model isn't necessarily dead yet. Uh at least not in in our area and excelsure. So, um yeah, I thought that was good news. Yeah. So, a couple good updates there on uh fire department topics. All right. So, with that, we'll move on to item eight. Other business. Council member newcomer. Uh uh not a lot. Uh I met with uh Andrew Meyer briefly the other day. Um coffee that was well attended. He actually had a number of people there he was having a conversation with about numerous things and at the end of that and I got to sit and talk fire district stuff for quite a while. Um got it. That was good. About was that before after the the um session ended the the special session? Was that within the last week and a half or was that prior to that? I was curious. It's when he had his coffee here. So, what was that, a week and a half? Probably just before that then. Yeah, just before I think it it kicked off. So, Okay. Yeah. Got it. Got it. All right. That's good update. Thank you. He was very supportive of everything that's been going on and and even any future in endeavors we may look into. So, nice. All right. Council member Feldman. I'm good. Thank you. Council member Dyk. Um, so I'll just comment on the the lake uh water quality was really bad a few weeks ago. Um, there was like a an algae bloom that I had never seen before. Um, and a lot of us were talking about like what's going on here. So I talked to some from the watershed not the water lake association just to ask if there's anything that was happening. Um, I I know that the the watershed district was going to be looking at some holding ponds or or maybe improving those. And I didn't know if something was going on that might have released a lot of phosphorus or something into the lake, but they weren't aware of anything. But but uh but then almost uh as quickly as it came, it's at least the last couple of days, I don't know how it is now by your end, but the water seems to be pretty clear again. And I mean, it was at the point where it was like not even usable. I mean, you couldn't even soup. Yeah. I mean, like if you went in, you'd come out with green slime on your and so I'm glad that that it was just a temporary thing. Who knows if it's going to come again, but it's almost like it choked itself out. And now it's actually pretty clear again. So, um, so I'm thankful for that because I didn't want for us to have a lake all summer that was unusable. But, um, and that I saw the, you know, that the the beach has been closed, but is that open again yet or not? Okay. Yeah. All right. I actually opened it back up watching the pea soup crash the into the sand. Yeah, that day. Yeah, it's odd. That's kind of a weird weird thing, but u Yeah. So, I'm looking forward to a good summer of of lake uh use for everybody that that uses it. So, glad to see that. I'm not sure what's worse, the PC algae bloom of this year or the couple years many years ago. Not sure if anyone here remembers, but we went through a couple pretty nasty fish kills. Well, the they killed a number of fish this time, too. I Yeah, I had probably a couple dozen dead fish. Like, we had a lot more than that. I remember more like in the hundreds. Really? Yeah. Yeah. We had a couple gruesome years where that happened. And it uh it it was that was pretty rough. But yeah, I'm not sure what's less pleasant. That's a toss up. Yeah. Well, maybe. Yeah. I thought they usually go hand in hand, but yeah. How How does the lake get monitored for algae blooms, especially ones that are like more of the toxic nature? I do not actually know the answer to that question. That would be a DNR or county thing. There was a a few a number of years ago where I thought there was some blue green algae on on the lake which is that dangerous kind. There were some notices that were posted like don't and this wasn't even that apparently. This was just like really unpleasant but yes. Yeah. I mean my hope has always been you know since Henipin County is out there you know once twice a week sampling the beach obviously they would have observed those conditions. um whatever it was, they didn't seem to be concerned enough to contact us about it. So, yeah, that that's a good question and it's one I've actually been asked a lot and it's not unique to you Long Lake either. It was No, it's just it's just I'm just more curious like walking dogs and stuff. Yeah. Like I know I've I've had my dogs swimming and then I get home and go, "Oops." Yeah. Well, you know, the the there was that carp harvesting um effort a number of years ago, and I I thought that was going to continue with them trying to uh sort of uh catch them where they spawn up the creek and and then that didn't happen for some reason because they didn't, you know, they didn't go the way they thought they were going to go that year. And so I don't know that a lot more has happened with that. Um, which I thought they could have done some more, but um, but uh, yeah, I, you know, I that's that's that's a big part of the problem because they're bottom feeders and they stir up the bottom. They release that phosphorus that's in the bottom and that kind of creates all the promote the carp fishing contest. Yeah, I know. I was going to ask Marty if we could have a carp fishing contest every day. Yep. I actually, one of my questions to uh, Mr. Schneider had been um does Waters Association have a flyer yet for the carp fishing contest. So uh yeah, we'll be doing now that Bookcro Days is approved. Exactly. We'll be doing a lot more promotion and I just have to push an extra emphasis on that contest. I thought I recall something though about while the Waters Association had grand ambitions of another project. something about that. They'd actually come to the conclusion based on their harvest and collection efforts that actually the load of carp was was a sustainable bio. Yeah, I they didn't have to move forward. But well, I I read that too. I don't know if I buy that entirely, but um I think you could always take more out. But it probably helped. Mhm. Mhm. And then to piggy back on the water quality stuff, I know we got a feedback from a couple residents today about the beach and everything. And so that's I guess the main thing there is public works kind of committed to trying to do what they what you guys can to clean that up on a daily basis and that sort of thing. And didn't know much about that till today. So haven't been down there yet, but okay. We got some issues there. So all right. Thanks for your efforts on that. All right. Anything else, John? No, that's it. All right. Me um just Yeah. And I should have started off this mayor comments. Obviously, very sad sad uh weekend for our state and and what happened to our our le our members of the legislature and their spouses and you know, they all stepped forward to be public servants like we have and we're we're dealing with different issues in their dealing, but nobody should have to go through that for policy decisions that they've made or considering making or that sort of thing. So, it was just a terrible way to wake up on Saturday morning to all that going on and thinking about uh I I reached out to Representative Myers and um and didn't have the direct contact information for our Senator John and Johnson Stewart, but I know that it was a tough weekend for them as well and all their colleagues. So, our city is thinking about them in in this time and uh thankful for the law enforcement for working all weekend to catch catch uh the suspect and a lot of those folks were didn't spend Father's Day with their kids and families and stuff. So, it was just a tough weekend and and uh hopefully we don't have to experience anything like that again. Uh besides that, I'll be going to the uh League of Minnesota Cities Conference next later next week in Duth. So I don't I don't think anybody else is going from this group, but you're always encouraged to to go. I know several members of Oral City Council and other city councils are going. That's good educational opportunity there. So maybe pencil think about that for for next year. Looking forward to that. And uh yeah, that is and then uh bonding, you know, so bonding bill, I think everybody kind of knows bonding bill was passed I think last Monday or so about a week ago. And uh that did not include you know our request as as lawn lakes request did not um include any really local requests like you know Minnotonka Beach and Mound and Minitrista and quite a quite a number of cities around us were asking for money for their bonding requests and there was not enough money to go around of course for all the city type projects. So I do so I think we're going to need to kind of go to plan B with you know our our our road project and and figure out other options for that. So, I think we'll talk about that in the coming month or two. I'd I'd like to have a work session to talk about that and get some feedback from staff and that sort of thing and and talk about, you know, what some options are. Car somebody already said, you know, maybe next year, but I think that's I think uh I think money is not going to be getting any looser, so to speak, at the legislature with all the demands that are out there and a lot of the demands, a lot of the priorities seem to be going to water, you know, water projects and and that sort of thing. So, a little update there on the bonding bill. I wonder if we we don't get any local government aid, right? And and I don't get I I understand there's a formula for that, but it seems like we ought to be a candidate for that uh being the small city that we are and and I was wondering if like talking to uh Andrew Meyer or anybody, you know, at state level. I actually was just in I've been doing webinars lately. Um and I told Janette I was like there's a process to appeal the local government aid. Yeah. And she's like what? I was like there's a process. So I'm going to look more into it and see. I mean there is a formula. Don't get me wrong. There is a formula. Yep. There may not be a lot that they do but there is there is an appeal process. So I actually did a little looking and found like a handout about it and what the factors are and in in a little more English and less spreadsheet. So that was kind of interesting. So, and so the timing on that, yeah, so we do have a note. The timing on that, it said in my webinar that we would find out in July about local government aid and then we would have 60 days to appeal. And so, and it's going to be zero, right? We're going to It's going to be zero, but it's on my radar. So, I have to wait until after the July. Meanwhile, there's small cities all around us that get a lot. And yeah, and like I said, I have no idea what the appeal process is or if it's even going to be worth it, but it is. We have 60 days. But having something like that, that would help uh you know, these road projects. If anything, if we're I mean, if we appeal it every year, then maybe we just become that squeaky wheel. I know that there was legislation either as this year or last year that they were trying to adjust the formula or do something with the LGA. I don't remember what quite what they were trying to do, but it was almost going to give us an option to get like 80,000 or something. There was a proposal for that, but yeah, there was this year. Yeah, Anderm I'm sorry spoken about he's well aware of it and we're not the only city in his district that does not receive that and um it's yeah yeah but the ones that other ones that don't receive it are generally bigger and you know more um it's the median house price and yeah yeah I don't understand why what because your if your house is the housing stock was built in the 50s or 60s 71 like before 1940 Is it really? Yeah, I actually did a little reading up on this when I found that handout. Um, there's also some specific criteria to small cities. Um, that I noticed in this handout. Um, but yeah, I I don't see any reason why. Well, whether the factors fit or not, why can't we? It's on our radar for sure. Yeah. Yeah. One other thought I have too is I don't know that have we ever really I don't know if you've done maybe you have maybe you and Sean have looked into whether there's any kind of grants that could help with grand app just because it's a main connector. I mean, you can always that's what I think all the money got bonded to was more grantoriented projects, wasn't it? They didn't do cities, but they gave it more to general, right? I think there's fruit to that, right? And partnerships. I mean, yeah, we look at Brown Road here because it's a, you know, connector road between County and County 112 that qualified for state aid and that type of thing. But that's that's a local road. That part of Brown is Orno. That's not a county road. It's No, it's a city road. There there's a qualifier for that. uh because it's a thorough affair for other communities and stuff. So they got a grant to do that whole thing or part part of it. I don't know if they called it a grant or just funding for it, but it's I think all or most of it was paid for them from the either the county or the state from the council may I watch. town. I'm just intrigued because it is a connector again linking up with Brown Road with County Road 146 that is a main connection point for like all of our neighbors to access that road. I just um there's a lot of neighborhoods and a lot of residences back there that are all using Grand AB as a main thoroughare. I I just I don't know if we've done how much looking we've done into that. Sean, maybe you would know. Have we looked into county grants at all for connector roadways to county roads and see if there's anything there? The only thing we have is the CAM fund. Okay. Is that same for community? That's what we're using for your speed limit signs. Oh, okay. But is Brown Road a state or county road 146? Yep. And then No, no, but I mean the part of Brown that's uh north of 112, that's not a county road. It's a county road. Nope. That's Orno. I don't think it is. North of 112. It's It's Orno. So, who's paying for it? Well, that's what I'm asking. County or the state? Because there's a there's a qual there's a designator for those types of roads that are serve the public, the greater public than just that city itself. There's an acronym for it. It's a county road south of Weisetta Boulevard, but not north. Right. So it connect that brown road connects connects connects county road 6 to 112. So that a couple hundred yards is orno. Mhm. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Are you sure? Positive. Pretty 99% sure. But um yeah, we can look at you know those orno wood. Almost positive. Pretty sure cuz I looked into this a while ago cuz I I thought oh that's strange that it's not a county road north of Whitesider Boulevard. Well, I have a hard time finding that the county is going to fund it if it isn't a county road. No, that but that's what I'm asking is the state. Did the state fund it? All right. Well, yeah, you'd be to continue as Marty would say, but we and Jeff Oliver I think it'd be a good resource, too. He's pretty familiar with some of the funding opportunities out there and that sort of thing. All right, Councilwalley, nothing for me. All right, Scott. I'm good. All right, Sean. Anything else? The only thing I got is there's going to be a hole in the road in Wisetta Boulevard overnight because they brought the wrong tapping saddle. What are they doing there? A new service line for the vet water service line. But they're deep. They were like really deep in Last week it was gas service. This week it's water. Yeah. And they patched it up and then I thought it was done and now they dug it up again. They didn't start till 11:00 this morning, too. So they just called me when uh I was in the meeting here. They said they got to come back tomorrow. So Okay. So watch out for the hole, huh? Watch out for the hole. Yeah. Project. All right. All right. Thank you, Janette. Nothing. Thank you. All right, Amanda. Nothing for me. Thank you. Okay. Looking at our calendar here, we've got on Thursday is a state and city holiday. Junth, uh, also freedom day. So, don't don't come in to pay your water bill that day or anything. And then our next meeting on July 1st, potential work session and city council meeting. And as heads up for Janet, I think this happens every year, but of course, yeah, unite, national night out, whatever is we has been decided this year and it's going to be the that usual first Tuesday in August. So, did learn that the other day. So, we'll figure that out as we get closer. I will be out on that meeting. I was going to look into attending it remotely if that's do I chat with you or I don't know how that's happens that the August 1 meeting. Yes. Or July 1st. July 1st. Okay. Sorry. I'm sorry for Susan. July 1st. Um we can discuss the logistics of that and whether it's possible. Yeah. You would need to be at a notice of public location. And so there's breaking news on that. I don't think it's I don't think it's effective till August 1st, but I learned last week from League of Minnesota Cities, a guest speaker at an event I was at, that they actually changed a law to make it good reduce the um sort of the red tape with with having remote meetings and you don't have to be in a public place anymore and that kind of thing. So, which is nice. um she didn't know a lot of more she didn't know the effective date but at some point that will be changing and doesn't mean we're we're all going to be you know not here come to these anymore but uh we're set your phone uh yeah it'll make it and we you know we shouldn't need to interrupt a vacation here and there either but if we have a need of a super you know for a fist vote or something like that we can certainly look at there's more options available now than there was in the past so that'll be Good. Perfect. Yeah. All right. So, otherwise, July 1st will be our next meeting then. All right. Anything else? Last call. Hey, one more thing that you you just reminded me of. Uh speaking of July 1st, so after uh July 1st, 2025, any Boers uh operators born after June 30th, 20, 2004 will need a watercraft operator's permit to operate motorboats or personal watercraft in the state of Minnesota. So um yeah, that's it. Is that different? I thought so basically anybody that's uh under 21 as of now uh no now you don't have to um but they say as of July 1st 2025 I don't know look up just by 2028 everybody has to have by 2028 yeah but they're starting with a with teenagers basically honey grab and uh $35 online permit Yeah, there's an online course. My daughter took it. It's not that hard, but more money. Good to know. Evidently, I think it's for safe somewhat related to safety, maybe. Well, that's voting for 40 years. How many people are going to go get it? Sure. Now they're going to have to. Yeah, I lost it. All right. Well, the cup is in the house. What's that? Oh, the cup's knobs. Yeah, Stanley Cup. Oh, okay. No one left. Got a random one. Okay, cool. All right. If there is no objection, I'll adjourn the meeting by general consent. Hearing none, meeting adjourned at 7:24 p.m. So, nobody watches. Well, yeah, they could take this. Well, then so is Was it Indiana? I was served as