Okay. >> All right. >> Thank you. Calling to order the January 20th, 2026 meeting of the Long Lake City Council, 6:31 p.m. All council members are present this evening with the exception of council member Dick. Item three is the pledge of allegiance. Please join in the pledgece to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it stand. >> Okay. Item three is mayor mayor's comments news meeting review and updates. Not a terrible amount to report over the last couple of weeks. Been fairly quiet in Lawn Lake at least. A little busier in this outer uh greater metropolitan area. Um one thing coming up here report to give folks a refresher on a reminder on is the Oral Lion Snowball Open is coming up on Saturday, January 31st at Burches. More information about that at oralions.org. Usually a morning event, always a great event. I think the weather is going to cooperate this year from the way it's appearing. I ice will probably be frozen enough unless something drastically changes the next week or so here. So that's a great event. We look forward to that and thanks to the Lions for putting that on every year and and uh for Burges for hosting. Otherwise, um nothing else to report as far as what's occurred since our last council meeting. I would say nothing of note. With that, we'll move on to item number four, which is to approve this evening's agenda. >> I'll make a motion to approve the agenda. >> Thank you. Motion and a second. Any further discussion? All those in favor signify by saying I. I. Opposed. >> Motion carries unanimously. Item five is a consent agenda. There's items A through E on the consent agenda this evening. Any questions for staff regarding items on the consent agenda? >> So, did clinic contact go up a bit. >> Yeah, they uh their their cost of grinding materials um went up significantly and therefore they are sharing that cost with the participating cities. So um I think we did expect that to happen. Um I did make a note in my report that um fairly recently I'd actually um approached a couple neighboring cities with similar um you know yard waste drops facilities. Um but they also were kind of experiencing the same issues but the cost of um dealing with those materials and the staffing um was such and the level of material was such that they were not in a position to be accepting more materials from another municipality by contract. Um I I do think I'm going to be making the rounds again and just double checking because that's part of due diligence. Still think this is the best solution for us this year. We can't be without that when we are dealing with ash trees and still working on those internally um to the best of our ability. But uh I I do think I'll be making the rounds and seeing if there's any openness and availability if any circumstances have changed. But they they certainly wouldn't want to come from there. >> Just the one of the questions and I think you answered it was how often does it get used because it is a uh per capita >> cost and but it sounds like a public work might be one of the best um last year that is for certain probably as were a lot of homeowners. It it is a call I receive somewhat regularly which is why we make their information very accessible. >> Okay. Yeah, just because it's 8700. >> Yeah, >> public use it quite a bit. >> Okay. >> They were able to dispose of all of their free time. >> Nice. >> Y >> I've used it several times. I appreciate someone doing that for us. Great service. A little bit little bit of a drive down. Counter fix, but not the end of the world, >> right? >> And I believe this was the first rate increase that we as well. >> Okay. >> As I said, we said per capita. >> Okay. the traffic is going there. So, we got our money's worth. I would say especially with the ash trees, not only for us, but for our residents. I I think it is really been a heavy use facility, >> okay? >> Because you don't want to be $8,700 and probably need 2,000. I have people ask me all the time if their son-in-law or such can bring their stuff to the site and I said absolutely as long as you ride along with your Long Lake ID. >> So I know it's I know it's an amenity that gets used. >> Perfect. >> Because if it's necessary >> Yes. >> I they were one of the ones I'd reached out to. They were not in a position to accept more volume. There were a few others and I understand because volume has only been increasing. You know, as population rises, the volume increases, and at the same time, the cost of grinding the materials and such goes up. Um, cost of equipment rises, cost of staff rises. So, that's kind of the catch 22 we're in. I think if we were not already in a contract with Plymouth, I do not believe they would accept another customer at this time. >> Okay. Well, you don't want to lose the opportunity. >> Exactly. like that would be really close. >> I know they were my first call. >> So they do it themselves. They don't work with Plymouth. They have their own as we know. >> I I believe they did. I don't think it accepted as much as Plymouth does. Plymouth is a little bit more comprehensive, you know, but I was looking around for like close leaf drops and leaf disposal and stuff. Um but even that you know the leaf drop site they they weren't really you know short of going to like the NRD processing facilities and ministry and um the local municipalities just last time I have made some contact in our local area where it's not in a position to accept more volume. >> One of the questions I have and you have a question. >> No no I was gonna see if there's any other questions. So that's perfect segway. >> So the emergency gate got replaced. >> Actually, what this right now is a down payment to be able to get on their schedule. They will be doing their gate repairs in spring. >> Okay. >> With this payment, they were able to um start ordering supplies and get us on their schedule. We are planning on billing um some neighboring cities and entities for a large portion of that cost. >> Okay. I did talk to Charlie about this and I felt like it would be appropriate to turn around and build them once the gate was in place completed. I thought if we tried to build them ahead of time that it might cause some contention and I thought that >> because I know it will be done this year in the spring. I'm working closely with um companies installing that. We will be building that back to um participating entities in the spring. Are you looking at county >> for who are you going to build? >> Who who we're going to build? It's it's going to be the we're looking with at the county. We're looking at billing mindat and we're looking at the crime prevention might also help with crime or now once this gets closer um I will be finalizing with Charlie on the exact >> proportion and make that I've been recording >> because it's not just long ways that music. >> No, absolutely. And we um I've been working very closely. Charlie had asked me probably a month or so ago to try to get involved in this. And so that was one of the things that I've talked to other cities. I said the city of Long Lake doesn't have a fire department any longer, nor do we have a police department on our own. So it just could not be our burden. Um and I feel we made some good headway with our neighboring County road to a state highway. Right. Correct. >> And have you ever driven on that section of that road? >> No. >> Exactly. That thing is nutty is that if you live in Long Lake, you get off before. Yeah. >> You never on that section of road. >> I think I have like when it was >> curious one time, right? No, but but like of all the people in the state that don't use the road, it's one way, right? >> Yeah. >> Logically, that's an upside down thing. Unbelievable. >> So, thank you for fighting that fight. >> Yeah, >> probably had done a lot of he had done a lot of the leg work for me and asked if I could just finish it up and so I think we were very successful and I've been working very closely with the gate company to make sure that they were paid, we were on their schedule and that this will be repaired for sure in the spring. So they have they come out to see what parts they need and that's what >> um they have been a they have been our vendor for that gate >> for years which is why we had chosen to work with them. Okay. >> Um so they're very familiar with the gates. So this was a full bid. Um we had the option to outsource electric um services on our own and after talking with public works we decided to just do full bid so that the project would be done seamlessly and there would be no hold up and no surprises on So this is the final cost. And I should also mention we got a discount um by paying within 15 days. It wasn't extremely large discount but every discount helped. So there was a discount given quickly. >> So it just I know we talked about it before and I couldn't remember the details but I thought I I saw it on the list of I should have made a note of that but >> not on my radar. All right, >> moving forward. >> Any other questions for staff about consent agenda items? I entertain a motion to approve the student's consent agenda. I'll make a motion to approve the consent agenda. >> Thank you. Motion and second. Any further discussion? All right. All those in favor? I opposed. Motion carries unanimously. Item six, open correspondence. Open correspondence is an item on the agenda during which the public may address the city council. No formal action is taken by the city council and comments should be limited to five minutes or less and open correspondence. Comments may also be emailed to city staff by noon on the date of the meeting. Any email open correspondence? >> All right. Well, let's move on then to seven regular business starting with 7A reschedule February 3rd 2026 city council meeting. Janette, it's you. >> Mayor, um, Tuesday, February 3rd is the date of a regular city council meeting for us. Um, but that does need to be rescheduled because it will be the night um of Minnesota's precinct practices being held. So, staff is recommending that the council consider a motion to reschedule the meeting to either Monday, February 2nd, or Wednesday, February 4th. Um, whichever date would work best for you. And uh council me had leave his thought um earlier today and that's that um he would prefer Wednesday as some sort of a conflict on Monday. I don't have a conflict either way. So any other thoughts on Monday versus >> birthday. So it's okay. Wow. Well, we could hold it here. Festivities here. >> You said that was Monday or Wednesday. Monday. >> Oh, Monday. Okay. >> Perfect. Do you have a Are we thinking there'll be a work session? >> Well, I was thinking maybe I >> I have something five to six that I might be able to get out of, but I'm not sure on Wednesday. >> Oh, there is a few items that we're already talking about putting on the next agenda, but nothing that I can think of that would warrant a work session. >> But if we already have two conflicts on Monday, I can just go on Wednesday when I get I might be able to get out of this though. I would say we would make sure if we did need to do a work session that if anything was really all council all on board, we would try to make that the last item. >> Okay. So, sounds like Wednesday is better for everybody. >> Yeah, let's do it. >> I'll make a motion that we move the next February 3rd, 2026 meeting to February 4th on Wednesday. >> Thank you. Motion in a second. Any further discussion? All those in favor? I opposed. Motion carries unanimously. That was simple. All right. Good. All right. 7B resolution regarding the tally of right in votes for municipal election. Danette, >> thanks, Mayor. Um, a legislative update in 2023 allowed cities to adopt a resolutions governing the counting of the counting of right in votes for local elective office. Um there are a couple options um that were specifically set forth for changing the tallying of write in votes which were I'll just read them from the report if you don't mind. Um to require that write in votes for an office only be individually reported if the total number of writein votes for that office is equal to or greater than the fewest number of non-right votes for a ballot candidate. Um, >> exactly. Which is a long way of saying you're very unlikely to have to tally right in votes. Um, the second option is to require candidates to file a written request um by a deadline before an election for their right in vote to be individually reported. Um, from what I've been seeing from many municipalities that have adopted this, most of them seem to be going with option one. Um, which is why that is what I am proposing this evening and will be requesting the council consider adopting a resolution on that. Um, as the council is undoubtedly aware, uh, writen both have kind of been a bit of a sense of humor thing for us every time we're canvasing meeting as a canvasing board. Um, it's funny I put the examples of Bart Simpson and anyone else tell you I think every election that I have worked since 2003 has had votes cast for either one or both of those non-existent titles. >> Right. We've had some close calls, I think, too. >> I remember I think anyone else got three. Um, voters also do often like to write in their own names um or names of folks they know whether they're eligible for office or not. Um, so really what that unfortunately boils down to is a lot of hours and time and effort because for those write in books the county has to generate image files of all of the writeins that are taken. They send those to us. um we have to manually tally and record them and include that as part of your canvasing board um you know review of results. So um this is a great opportunity of course it will save um work and effort on the part of both your city election staff and county election staff. And so yes staff is recommending adoption of a resolution tonight to govern the tally of writing votes for our city offices in our future municipal election. Although with sense of humor, I can make a motion to adopt 2020 governing the tally of right in vote for city offices in municipal election. >> You need to specify option >> included in the resolution. >> All right, I'll second that. So just a question like so when when we do the next canvasing board, we won't we won't even see those writings. will just see maybe a number that the there's four writins or five writins like >> Exactly. You will no longer be going through the humorous tally and I apologize because I know that is a little bit of fun but um but but the truth is is you know it's it is more work than one would anticipate and it's not that we're unwilling to do it. It's that this is an opportunity to improve any efficiency in electric. >> Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right. We had a motion. We had a second. Any further discussion? All right. All those in favor? I opposed. Motion carries unanimously. Okay. Item seven, uh C, approve approval of 2025 polling place accessibility grant program agreement. That you got the got the third in a row here now. Go go go for it. >> Thank you, mayor. Sorry, you're all hearing so much of me this evening. >> Um, in short, um, legislation back in 2023 appropriated funds for the Secretary of State to make grants available to counties and m municipalities for improving access to polling places with individuals with disabilities. Um, and this year we saw a cycle for a 2025 polling place accessibility grant. And when I received the information. What immediately leaps to my mind um is that we might be able to um apply for our grants to make a small but great improvement to the accessibility at city hall. Um the categories um for priorities for funding um are and again sorry reading aloud here um automatic electronic door openers for entrances to government-owned facilities designated for use as a polling place. construction of ramps for polling places, signs, um tools or enhancements that are all, you know, facilitating the voting experience and other capital improvements um to government own facilities designed for use as a polling place. As the council is undoubtedly aware, our electronic door opening system at our front doors um is really non-functioning in part because the door on the right side um has degenerated into, I guess there's no other way to say it, a heat eater. And we have to be able to unlock both doors, do some very tricky shenanigans with an Allen wrench to screw down the door levers and operators in order to be able to turn that system on to operate on the outdoors. What that means is, of course, at the end of election night, two things can go wrong. A, the Allen wrench skips its keys, which happens, and you don't always get those door handles back up the way they need to be. And B, if your key gets stuck in the door, it's not going anywhere, and you might have staff sticking here. So, um, we really need to be able, we need that door operating system to be functional on a daily basis. We are seeing an increased level of senior pedestrian traffic. Um, we also have a gentleman once in a while in a wheelchair that stops by. Um, we really need that function or that system to be operating. We've also been receiving complaints about the weight of the doors because they're these, you know, old very heavy steel doors and senior citizens do struggle to open them. So, we applied for a polling place accessibility grant um to replace both the outer and inner doors on both sides of the building. and revamp the electronic door opening system and restore it to functionality on the primary entrance of city hall. Again, um we it it sounds like, you know, although the cap for grant awards was 20,000 per jurisdiction, um we had applied for the full amount because the overall project cost we had in mind was going to be a little over $24,000 if they were going through all four doors. Um we th those were not first priorities according to the grants, but the ADA um compliant electronic door operating system in those front doors absolutely was. So, um, we did receive a partial funding award in the amount of $6,190.89, which essentially would fund half the project to do both the primary front entrance doors, the outer and inner with doors that are easier to open, actually better designed handles for pulling and pushing um, and restoring the ADA system to functionality. And when you have polling, nobody you know, they do not kind of block. It is. Yes, we use that parking lot for election staff, city staff purposes. Um, and if there's any openings, of course, voters can park there, but we do direct voters to come around. And the reason for that in part is that, um, an election really, your voting experience, you kind of want oneway float. You know, you want it to move in a circle. So, you come in that door, you go through this building, and you come right back out that door. Um, that also where we have the ramp from the parking lot and where you would have your handicapped accessible parking. Um, that brings up another point. Is there a grant for striping the um project and we'll add that to the list? >> Yeah, 100%. Um, we need some guidelines, >> right? >> Yes. Yes. So, um, yeah, absolutely. But, um, while it wasn't the full hoped for. It will accomplish the primary goal and um we received notification that we received the award and we also received um a polling place accessibility grant program agreement and we are asking the council to consider approving that. >> Okay. So, if we did have um uh ADA wise, if we ever had any issues brought up like with this with the steps here, if we do have residents don't come here by vehicle, but they're coming from, you know, down the street or whatever, they would just sit there in wheelchair and say, would they need to come around like this way, get in the building, that'd be okay. There's sidewalk to make that whole track. >> Yes. Actually, in some ways, the staff kind of improved accessibility. A little sidewalk extension right behind the building that wasn't quite there before. And actually that sidewalk network really goes all the way down to a boulevard. So there's in some ways more options for pedestrian accessibility than there used to be. >> Little bit of a hill, but you could also go down the other way too. >> We do also have folks who will come up from downtown, come under the bridge, you know, pass by the funeral home and come up under the bridge and come up to us that way as well. All right, entertain a motion on this one. >> Grant program agreement long. >> Excellent. Motion and second. Any further discussion? All those in favor? I opposed. Motion carried unanimously. Thanks for your work on that, Janette. >> Thank you very much. I appreciate it. >> And what's the rough timeline for getting involved rolling? >> I have an active quote. So, I'm really at a place where as soon as I receive the fully executed agreement back um or I'm sorry, fully executed agreement. Um as soon as I have that in my hands, I I think I'll be in a position to pretty much immediately reach back out to the vendor and say, "Let's revisit this and let's get it done." So, >> yeah. Hopefully with a little bit of a discount. >> Quality wants the discount. >> I'm quite a negotiator. I promise I fight. Just to clarify, then the back doors we' be looking at in about a year or so. Yes, we're only doing this right now. >> Do we need the back doors? I mean, >> I think we would end up doing this for color and matching >> because that would be >> okay. the ADA component and the internal hardware and the latching system um and everything adds a good thousand dollars to the door. So it'll be the back doors would be a little a little less expensive. This is the bigger project. >> So when you're looking kind of like for m it's just for um kind of statics that's one thing but is it also uh for um the doors are pretty old and I Is that going to be with like a What about the windows and you're looking at like a long-term plan with the windows? >> Windows is pretty hot >> throughout the building. >> Yeah. Is that like something that's kind of aging too or >> I think everything is I think it is aging which is why you'll find that a lot of these rooms that have more windows are chillier. >> I don't think it's going to be a priority right now areas. Um I think with the doors getting them replaced will be important because we have had with the key issues we out here. We had hired a company to come up multiple times to try to fix it and they just >> on that note. Um is there a different way you can um lock it and um kind of activate it? >> We are making sure that the doors have the ability to be um enhanced later. >> Okay. >> An electric mechanism. >> In other words, that install now would the ability of adding an electronic access system in the future. >> Say that again. >> Nothing we would be doing with the new doors would prohibit or prevent us from adding an electronic door opener in the future. >> That would be nice. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And actually just the security system in terms of locking it remotely, locking it I don't know using electronic locking system as opposed to a based locking system. Right. Locking automatically at 4:30 or whatever just in case you forget or sort of things. Yeah. >> After hours to access people on a phone app or something just for >> Yes. And that's what we were looking I think a little bit more room. I knew that we were we have a lot of city hall upgrades that were coming at one time and so we're trying to make sure that we get them functional with the ability to improve over time without Okay. just a bit. I'm wondering how many people have the key. >> Well, it's all going to be repeat. >> Okay. >> Um, we'd already talked about that and it will be a very different situation. >> I can tell you that the number of people who have it is the full-time staff you have now. Okay. >> And the mayor. >> Oh, >> it is a metal physical key. There is no >> Bob right not very big either in the course. All right. Good. So with that we'll move on to item eight. Other business from newcomer for me warm. >> I know cold cold high of minus3 on Friday. >> Minus3. Yeahman. Uh, one, um, well, a couple fire things. Uh, I don't know if you guys knew there was a search for the deputy chief. So, it was a pretty extensive search. I think it started early December, telephone interviews and in person. Um, so they did hire somebody um past >> and uh he is I think he'll be seated February is the current um We'll have two full-time people at the fire department and um and and kind of describe it. We're starting a startup. So, there's a lot of work to be done. So, it'll be nice to have another set of hands in there and both city staff have been accomplishing a huge amount too which is awesome. Another topic came up related to some things that we used to do in that pension for the release. One thing that um came up in our board meeting and then also the was can we automate that process somehow? Because if you talk to different people, everybody's 100% confident and 100% conflicting um handshake agreements that happened in the past and it's like why don't we start over do best practices and then help the firefighters have some certainty and like if this criteria is met then we you know increase this amount. I I talked to Highland but Excel did something similar that kind of take some of the guess work out of it take things off the the emotional side and just just make it more algorithm. So that's something that we're exploring and it's still probably at least three months out if not six months out to figure out what is best practices make sure because ultimately the cities are backing this this pension right so um cities need to be on board with it about this >> can it be your prof because you know when they do present we look at the numbers and um auditors make the recommendation and stuff like that. Could it rate that it's well funded? Could it be a threshold for the an auditor that approves it or some of >> Well, there's a couple pieces there. One is the when the auditors come and tell us the percent funded it is. Um it's, you know, like $4,000 to do that process. >> But if you ask the the relief board, can you give me your number within a half percent, they will get it because It's easy for them to comput it, but then to have it be an official report cost a lot. So, they don't want to go through that process unless there a high probability of of them getting the approval um of a of a benefit. But, you know what what should be the funding threshold? Should there be a floor that we stay above because um there's fundamentally the cities are on the hook. >> Yeah. back. So there should be some buffer of comfort. What should that buffer be? And um it's a function of what your portfolio has in it. And I brought up the example like if we were in crypto, it'd be a 300% threshold. Of course, invest in crypto, but is it how nutty your portfolio is to tell you what the value of that is? And that's a component I don't think agrees with that. Is there a way to kind of reduce that? I understand the auditor's scheme is very expensive. Um, but is there a way to one of the things that I want to I would be concerned about is sort of it's just all internal no outside the fraud or something. I mean, >> yeah. >> So, ABNO would still be giving data and stuff like that. >> So, I think the and maybe I missed the So, they can give an estimate of what their percent funding is very accurately on their own without having to go to ABDO. Basically, when they go to ADO, ADO does their report, comes back and says, "Yeah, the number you said pretty." >> Yeah. So they have a good idea what that number is. And if they have that idea, could we give some certainty in the process, you know, if you guys hit this, the the fireboard will approve with some algorithmic sense that there's confidence that there's not there's not this uncertainty of of getting approved. >> Can I ask you another question? So is there any we get audited. Is there any points that it would get audited? Um or like this probably has dropped gaps for a year because at one point it's next year it's going to be in bad shape. But is there any review that would happen by anybody outside of the uired by law? >> Okay. So there would be a review but it wouldn't be this full like rates of um >> benefit >> the benefit amount. Okay. >> Yeah. That's kind of it own. >> Okay, that's what I've just So, there's it own process as well. So, there's no, it's just kind of Yeah, we have enough money to uh increase the benefit amount. Um, but we're going to get audited by the state. Um, or by add >> Yeah, they're the ones been putting the rubber stamp. Yes, the numbers you guessed. >> Yeah, >> you're off by.1%. They're the ones that have the official. >> So, I just wanted some oversight. >> We're not changing anything there. Okay. It's more just >> when should they bring it forward, right? Yeah. >> And then what should be the expectations? >> Because as I talk to firefighters, there's different firefighters have different expectations on what that is. like okay over time this is kind of let's be make it something that people can can not they can plan their lives and not think this is a little bit more random my >> you did I think one thing I just want to clarify is um when he was talking about setting that that personal threshold for themselves it's not when to bring to the board it's knowing that they're going to have the board support for when to bring to So they were they were still in the process of going to ABD though to get an official report >> but only at such time that they know that it would be within our threshold >> um of approval and so they will always continue to go to ABDO once their personal calculations meet the threshold that we have set in determining okay >> then they will go to ABD they'll send spend the money to bring it to the board rather than spending the money and hope that the board would approve it. They just want to know ahead of time what are your guidelines. >> Oh okay. So you guys are working on guidelines. >> Well yeah like what are those thresholds and I talked to um Highland about this shelter had their own mechanism to do this that was in the spirit of this but not exactly the same as what we discussed. So I think we just need to do the research and figure out what what is best practice and do that. So that's it. All right. Good update there. Glad things are going well. land fire. >> Can I ask one question? So, John, >> I think that's the third question, but okay. >> Go ahead. >> Um, John, when is it uh is it an official ceremony or >> Oh, ceremony. >> Okay. Just going to be >> I think February I got a pile of things I want. >> Oh, okay. >> I'll be over there, but I don't think it's the ceremony. >> Oh, okay. Because usually it's like they had the pinning ceremony. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Okay. I don't know. >> Department level hopefully at least. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. That' be on Monday night, right? Which probably a training night to do it. Be great if they even get us invited or something. >> Oh, that's great. Congratulations. Right. >> Yeah. Thanks for asking the question. Right. Right. Oh, great. >> I know when to set up. >> All right. Um Hbert Park's gating part where that rink is open. I think we've maybe announced that before. The rink is open, but the warming house is not unfortunately due to repairs are still needed for some plumbing damage that occurred there a couple months ago. A little cold out unfortunately, but uh it's, you know, it's either too warm or too cold today. So, take advantage of it when you can. And then um you know thanks to Janette for sending out a a forwarding on the city of Wisetta Facebook post today just you know a lot of obviously a lot of um lot going on in the community the greater Quint Cities regarding immigration enforcement and I know Wisetta City Wisetta put out a post today regarding questions their city and their police department receiving about immigration enforcement and obviously we are pleased by the Wisetta police and that email or that Facebook post did a good job about laying out what are the what what are the roles of local police when it comes to immigration enforcement? What what do they do and what they don't do actually when it comes to immigration enforcement? So, look to that look to our Facebook page if there's more questions about that and that'll refer readers to a citywise a Facebook post. Other than that, that is it for me today. Customerally, >> um well, the LMC closed on their building, so That's nice. Um, and the other thing I did go to Andrew Myers. Um, >> yeah. Yeah. It seemed like, um, I think taxes were on a lot of people's minds. Property taxes. >> Building building. >> Yeah. With the latest update from Henipin Health and the funding issues they're experiencing, it does raise cause for concern for what may happen at the county level as far as property taxes next year. >> Absolutely. Yeah. I was mean last week where county commissioner just said we have kind not have the capacity to tax their way out of this. it's just physically impossible. And so it's going to be interesting to see how that's going to affect us and the county budget and what kind of cuts we're going to have to make. Hopefully there's talk of looking at the state for more. Representative Myers mentioned that, but that I think they're being the legislators are being kind of asked to try to help to fix this in some way too by getting more more money from out um the state as a whole that support HTMC because 40% of HCMC patients are not actually county residents that are from out of state or even out of the state. >> But I some of it St. Paul St. Paul >> I would assume so. So R so it's Ramsey County if Ramsey County um do they have a county hospital? >> They have a medical their own medical center I believe was trained by the county as well but ours is you know on the counties level trauma level one trauma center a lot better care and so a lot of folks come from county >> that's what I was wondering that seems to be very close because otherwise if you're in the north you come to county medical center you're flown in >> right >> unless you're driving for medical emergency. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, that's that's going to be on the radar here. And uh a lot of our in our you know, and that goes back to our Lake Mitaka coalition of um cities that were putting some lobbying together. You know, we're getting taking a big brunt of the impact on property tax property tax increase increases from county the county share and you know, is that sustainable or is there another way a path to kind of figure that out? So, more to come. that lobbyist would te up the idea of Henipin County beginning to think of itself as a regional, not just Henipin Countywide, but regions of Henipin County. The regions >> are not the same. The concerns of the Minnetonka Beach and the Long Lake and the Maple Plane are not necessarily in alignment with the concern or in alignment with the concerns of Robinsdale, Minneapolis, and Dina. You know, >> I think that Andrew Myers was kind of um not your kind of noting that species are different. >> West they are not the same animal and it would be nice to see a more regional consideration to how county law making. So maybe we should think about kind of redistricting get thrown out. What did it take to >> think? Oh, I haven't heard I haven't heard I haven't heard that. >> Yeah. Different character, but >> yeah, >> it's French speaking, right? >> Montreal, too, though. >> Quebec. My bad. >> I have not heard that. Well, that's it for me. >> All right, Amanda. >> Um, today I was going to let council know that I met with our insurance broker this afternoon. We spoke about where the city of Long Lake was with work workers comp and our liability insurance. Um, and I'm happy to announce that both our premiums have gone down by almost half and he's and he was saying that it's because of our experience rating and our in our safety that our employees have been practicing. We haven't had we had one um one work comp claim in five years and it was for $200. So >> just going to say the same with property. So he said that our right now our rating is probably almost as low as it can possibly go. It also did help that we no longer have almost 50 employees that we will be covering and um equipment and so forth is but as work as experience ratings go he said that we're we're doing very very good and proud of ourselves. So I just wonder that we will see that we will start to see that if I mean obviously we know how it goes as soon as our experience rating goes down the go up anyways but we're doing what we can and that's important so >> good good update >> a reduction yes >> that sign up 280 days without an injury or something >> I have to jokingly enough I have to do something by January 31st according really >> my to-do list for next week. Yes, I have to have something posted by the end of to tell them from the injuries that we've had and >> what categories and so forth, but that will be posted soon. >> Okay. >> Be an easy report to fill out. >> Yeah, that's great. >> Can't wait to see it. >> All right, Janette, >> I actually was going to say on the overhead um there are some sales coming now on the holiday and winter banners. I have a sense that the council member who might be most interested in that design is not with us this evening. >> Essentially, I think what we're looking at is just ordering some standard holiday banners, you know, nothing um >> custom. >> Nothing custom, nothing fancy, just something maybe a little a little more attractive than we have now. Like maybe one with a snowman and one with some ornaments, you know, some one that says happy holidays, one that says season's greetings. Two that are complimentary. So, I think what we're looking at. Um, if the full council doesn't have an active opinion so much on the banners, I'd be happy to reach out to council member direct and ask them some examples and >> like the ones with that aren't um specific to the holidays is nicer like the snowman because it has a longer run time. >> True. >> Yeah, >> that's why I loving the snowman. some cute ones in here. >> Yeah, that that follows for um >> the entire winter. >> Yeah, >> my preference. >> Change the mode, right? It's cold out. >> All right. Yeah, I think we'll save that as your official committee one on the banner the banner committee committed out to him and um ask him if he'd like to kind of look at these with us and see if we can take a couple. >> Great. Thanks. All right, last call. Any else? Okay, we'll adjourn then. Uh reminder that our next meeting will be on Wednesday, February 4th. Well, if there's no objection, I'll adjourn the meeting by general consent. Hearing none, meeting adjourned at 7:18.