And again, how does that affect our current down to Iowa for graduation? They're coming up here. Wow. No, that sucks. Oh, yeah. No, that's no fun. All right. Are you ready? All right. Call into order the May 20th, 2025 meeting of the Lawn Lake City Council. It's 6:31 p.m. All council members are present this evening. I know council member Dick needs to leave a little bit early here uh in 15 minutes or so. With that, we will start with the item two, which is the pledge of allegiance. Please join me in the pledge of allegiance. I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Okay. Item three is mayor comments. Uh Lick News meeting review and updates. Uh just a few items to mention tonight. Uh first of all, I was absent uh with prior notice at the last meeting on May 6. So I appreciate uh Council Member Dyk serving as mayor prom that that evening. Watched the video and you did did a great job. Um on in on on May 8th, two days after that, we had the fire services joint open forum. So I know uh council member Dav mentioned at the last meeting kind of pushed it. I see some folks in the audience here who were present as well and that was really good event. Thanks to Trinity Lutheran Church for hosting that event. Uh we got a lot of good feedback from participants and audience members. It's really good vibe in the room. been great to have, you know, the cities of Lone Lake and Orno sitting together at a at a table in front of everybody and explaining the future uh of fire service in our community, something that would have never happened last, you know, four or five years or so. So, we're thankful for our our partners for hosting that with with us. There is a video, YouTube video of it that is available on our city website under fire service updates and information web page, specifically the news and presentations tab might also be on the LMC website. We thank the LMC for recording that as well. So, please take a look at that video if you haven't if you weren't in attendance and have not had a chance to watch that yet. And then upcoming event would be next Monday, of course, is Memorial Day on May 26th. So, I know City of Lawn Lake uh usually there's uh three very noteworthy events that occur in our city. Uh two at our local cemeteries and then one at Nelson Lakeside Park. So, we encourage community members to come down and join those events. I'm sure uh city clerk Mohler will put information out shortly on those events. It seems like Memorial Day is earlier this year than than usual. So, it's going to be here before we know it. And it seems like every Memorial Day event I participated in since being being mayor, it's rained, but this year it looks appears to be sunny. At least as of now, the forecast is sunny. So, we're hoping for that. And and that does not change. So, a few updates there with city uh events going on. With that, we'll move on to item four, which is to approve this evening's agenda. I'll entertain a motion on that. I'll make a motion to approve tonight's agenda. Second that. All right. Motion and a second. Any further discussion? All those in favor signify by saying I. I. I. Opposed. Motion carries unanimously. Item five, consent agenda. We have items A through F on the consent agenda this evening. Couple items I'll point out is donation of equipment to uh Lone Lake Fire Department on behalf of uh relief. I believe it's second call and the relief association. And then item F, adopting a resolution to 2025-16 appointing resident Mark Precing pricing pricing. Uh my apologies to the position of park board members serving a term effective through December 31st, 2027. Very much appreciate you stepping forward, Mark, and I think we'll introduce you a little bit more here in just a minute. So any questions for staff regarding items on the consent agenda this evening? I just have a real quick question. So on the PS Oh, it's um for the approved vendor claims and payroll. Um just on the PSN utility online billing, there's two entries um for software support for $152. One is for 93 cents and 92 bill pay fee for April. They're both for April. Is it split between two codes? 61 62. Yeah. So, so it's one payment divided by two funds. Okay. That's why it wasn't an even number. You got to So, do we pay sales tax? What do we pay sales tax? That's a transaction fee for them doing taxes. No, we don't pay sales tax. Okay. That's cuz it just says, oh, April sales tax. We pay That's for water sold. Oh, okay. For commercial. Yeah, that's there's a that's a state. Okay. Regulation. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Any other questions? If not, entertain a motion to approve this evening's consent agenda. I can make a motion to approve this evening's consent agenda. Second. All right. Motion a second. Any further discussion? All those in favor? I opposed. Motion carries unanimously. All right. Six, open correspondence. Open correspondence is an item on the agenda during which the public may address the city council. No formal action is taken by the city council and comments shall be limited to 5 minutes or less. and open correspondence. Comments may also be emailed to city staff by noon on the date of the meeting. So, we'll begin with Janette on this one. We got a little announcement for us. Thank you, mayor. I'd just um like to take a moment. Uh Mr. Pricing, if you'd like to come on and stand up at the podium. Sure. Um I'd like to introduce Mark Pricing to everyone. We appointed him to the position of park board member on tonight's consent agenda. Um, if you had a chance to look at his application for the park board, you'll see that he has quite the extensive background in teaching and community education, prior experience working with parks and recreation departments and such. Um, great volunteer experience. We are very fortunate to have an applicant quite so qualified to apply for this position and look forward to working with him and introducing him to the board members and getting the board back meeting again with a full quorum. So, I wanted to introduce him to you and welcome you to share anything you'd like to share with the council as well as to welcome you to ask a question or two if you'd like. Great. Thank you, Janette. And mayor, no issue with the pronunciation of my name. It's not it's not spelled and pronounced the same way. Okay. Thank you. Hopefully, I wasn't the first to do that. Not the first. Well, welcome to the community. And I know I notice you live in Zago and um you probably have joined us at an event or two already at tree lighting events and that sort of thing. So great to have you in the community for for number one and then as on our park board now. Thank you. And you'll be a great addition. Any but anything else you want to mention or say or a little bio? What would you like? Sure. Sure. Just a quick bio. That'd be that'd be fine. I don't sing and dance. Um, uh, I was I was I'm a retired public school teacher and community ed director. Uh, as Janette said, I've been involved heavily in lots and lots of park and wreck programming and initiatives um over a long period of time. Um, and it's something that I take pride in that I think is really important. It's really important to a community. Um, I'm married. My wife is uh uh my wife and I have been married 50 years and a couple of months. Uh she's a retired private school administrator, not public school. Difference. Um and we have seven grandkids and my three adult kids and grandkids all kind of live in the area. Nice. Nice. Where did you teach? I taught in Apple Valley Rose Mount Egan at Apple Valley High School. I taught in Robbinsdale for a long time. Then I taught out in Buffalo, Minnesota. And then I finished down in Montgomery, Ldale, and the center. Wow. That's great. Nice. That's great. Well, thank you again for stepping forward to be on the park board. It's a it's a great um they they do great work and uh could you know it's not not a lot of folks always standing up to serve their community and and uh so we appreciate that you're willing to do that and uh it's not a not as much of a time commitment as some of our other boards but it's the staff will keep you busy and uh we look we look we love the input of park board members when it comes to planning for our parks in the future and improvements and that sort of thing. So sounds good. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, thank you. Thanks for All right. Anyone else wish to approach for public or for open correspondence this evening? Uh, all right. We have a taker. I didn't I wasn't sure you were slow motion. Uh, honorable mayor, members of the council, Brian Miller, 295 Lake View Avenue. I have just a couple of uh I want draw council's attention to some matters on Lake View Avenue and that whole neighborhood there. Um, and uh, my delivery is going to be with a little levity, but uh, also in all seriousness, and if I may, Janette, this is a picture of Lake View Avenue in front of Tim Halman's house. uh when they built that uh apartment building here, 298 Lake View Avenue, they made this side of the street no parking along the entire uh street so that firet trucks could get to that uh apartment building. And as you can see, all the no parking signs are completely faded away. I know Tim Halman has been up here and asked the city to replace those signs. And I'd like to ask the council to and the city to take serious consideration of addressing that matter because it's shoddy looking. I don't know about you, but I consider signs to be a form of pollution. Uh this is just garbage on a stick. So So if Tim could somebody could honor Tim's request and get that done. This is 249 Lake View Avenue, Dave Schwaneer's house. Uh this is a city culvert that has uh been talked about with the city as well. This culvert is about 5 to 6 in above the grade there and is a speed bump. Uh I know Tim Haltman has addressed this with the city before too. And um we'd like to see the city come and reset this culvert. Um because it's it's it's city-owned. Here's a top view of that. So it's painful to watch Dave come and go from his home clunk clunk every day. Uh I will say back in uh probably 20 years ago the city did come through and retrenched the ditches along here. Um the uh and they did a great job and they replaced it with the grass with grass seed. Uh with that uh my neighbor Mark Jones and I I'm way up here. Uh we actually paidton brothers to come and put sod in because grass seed was ridiculous. It looked shoddy. It looked terrible. It looked miserable. This is a picture of my backyard from the house. Uh, my culvert is over here. I've talked to the city and Tim Alman has talked to the city many times about replacing that culvert. It floods every time at this year. This is Mildred down here. Her and her husband Drake come have come for the past three years. They love to swim back here. Tim and Patty and I will sit on my back deck here and uh enjoy watching Mildred and Drake walk around the backyard and visit with us and go for a swim. This is this today and this will stay here for a couple of days. If the rain continues, it'll be there for weeks. And it's all because this culvert is too high on this end. And like I said, I think Tim Holtman's advocated for me years ago about getting that culvert uh replaced so that the backyard doesn't flood. Um, we all know that standing water is a a health concern. You're a watershed district, so maybe you're familiar with mosquitoes and all that kind of stuff. So, standing water for more than 24 hours is a mosquito hazard uh breeding ground rather. Um, I don't think this culvert needs to be replaced. I think it just needs to be pulled up uh cleaned out and re uh reset so that's actually level uh because you know this is a frost freeze situation where it's just has risen up over the years same as Dave Schwaneer's house and but that's not Lake View is it? It's No, this is Central Avenue. So that's Central Avenue. Now let's take a quick trip down memory lane. This is a map of my neighborhood from 1940. This is my house here. This is Gretchen Cashmore. This is Dave Schwaneer. This is Lisa Cochran. These are original homes to Long Lake. This is long before uh Charlie and Deardra over here. Long before anybody over on Grand Avenue or west of Brown Road. I'm sorry. This is Brown Road. This is Lake View Avenue. This is Orchard. Uh Central and Grand. And this is Watertown Road here. So, and then John's down here somewhere. Uh so Lake View Avenue used to have an actual view of lake of the lake. Uh my point about this is this is an original neighborhood from the founding of the city of Long Lake. This is the first neighborhood. You know, everything was taking place down here by the lake. This is the first neighborhood up here. So historically, it would be nice if the city would spend a little more time paying attention to Lake View Avenue and this whole neighborhood here because Frankly, there's a lot of neglect. I mean, how long does it take to get no parking signs that actually say no parking that you can read or ditches that drain? [Music] Um, that's all. Just would like this council to direct city staff to take uh the matter more serious up in our neighborhood. All right. Thank you, Brian. Others for public comment. Marty, before you start, I don't It's not that I don't want to hear you talk. I have a daughter who's going to be extremely disappointed if I don't make her band concert. So, I'm going to step out. I'll uh I'll call you later and give you um Marty Schneider, 1176 Westetta Boulevard. And really just uh um showing up here to give you a preemptive preview of Buckhorn Days. uh Buckhorn days of which we will be filing our application within the next week. We've been in touch with staff will be on July 12 uh Saturday and item the association will be They were at the Monday's here with uh informative booth. They'll be hosting the carp tournament. We're in Burks. Mayor Miner, we discussed this briefly last week. Uh we're having a meeting with the fire department and we may be uh hosting as part of Buckhorn Days their traditional 5K run that usually runs out of fire department number one. They're looking to be a bit more integrated within community activities. So that's good news there. Uh we feel we can accommodate them in that gap before everything starts. So to be continued. We were also approached by the Orno wrestling team and they've uh volunteered to be generally helpful throughout the day. We like that as well. Bring other groups into the event. The Lions still very much a part of it. Uh we are right now debating whether we have enough funding to do fireworks which we did not have last year but did in prior years as you're aware as well as the water ski show. So right now we've got five bands, we've got the fishing tournament, dog races, uh bean bag toss, car show at the museum, etc. But just wanted to give you a little preview and again hopefully within the next week we'll have ready for your next meeting uh the full application. That's great. Great. Sounds like a great event, Marty. Thank you for giving us a tidbit some tidbits on that. All right. Anyone else for open correspondence? All right. If not, we'll move on to item seven, regular business. Starting with 7A, resolution of support for long the Long Lake Creek wershed uh partnership and the uh MCWD downtown lake uh Long Lake feasibility study. I'm going to kick this off, Scott. Sure. Um some background. Um in 2014 the Minnesota Pollution Control um completed um a total maximum daily load study um which identified five impaired lakes in the sub watershed district and that includes the cities of Long Lake Orno and Madina um in 2016 Long Lake passed a resolution to partner with intergovernment agencies um which would be or long lake Madina um partnering with you know um other inter um intergovernmental agencies in 2018 um with the W support of the Miniaha Creek wershed district. Um they were able to obtain a grant that would um allow them to identify some ways to reduce their TMDLs in the overall area. Um and so in 2020 the MCWD presented the preliminary findings in 2020 um to the city councils of the three communities and then in 2023 um a final report was created and they identify that as a Long Lake watershed road map. Um the road map identified 35 pro 34 projects that could be um in the area to reduce those TMDLs and also in 2023 they did apply for and receive a grant of $174,940 um to conduct the feasibility of those um 34 projects. And right now I believe they're focusing on the downtown area which this letter is going to support. um and they're ready to initiate the feasibility study and in coordinated in coordination with the city of Long Lake. And so um that was just kind of the background. But with that being said, we have um representatives from MCWD here to do a presentation. Great. Welcome. Thank you, Mayor Miner, Council Members, um Scott. I don't think I need to make a presentation. Pretty much sold the show there. Covered everything I was going to. But my name is James Whisker. Um, thank you for having us here tonight. I'm the administrator for the Minih Hot Creek Wershed District. I'm joined by a couple staff, um, Becca and Rachel Baker, who will be joining me in a minute. She's a project planner for the wershed and she's going to be covering the feasibility work. So, um, we appreciate you having us here to just provide an overview, which is what I want to do next. Um, we're going to give an overview of Minhack Creek Wershed District. I'll cover some of the history of the Long Lake Creek partnership. Scott punched through that um rather neatly just a minute ago um before Rachel then introduces this uh the potential for us to advance this grant-f funded feasibility study for how we can integrate uh regional storm water management improvements into downtown Long Lake um with public infrastructure improvements, parks and open space or redevelopment. hoping at the conclusion after we answer any questions that we could just get council support for this work which will be advanced like Scott said in collaboration with the city team. So I'm not sure when we last presented but wanted to familiarize or refamiliarize everybody with the Minhaha Creek wershed district. So I'm going to briefly introduce who we are, how we approach our work in terms of our geography. This is the Miniha Creek wershed. We cover 178 square miles. It all drains eventually into the creek and the Mississippi River. Our wershed's the largest urban whed in the metro and as a result it contains a really rich mix of land use, natural resources and communities. It covers portions of Henipin and Carver County, 29 different cities from the urban center in Minneapolis, our lake communities, um, and out west into some of the exurban, um, and expanding suburbs in Victoria and as far west as Wakonia. We also have, as I mentioned, a pretty high volume of natural resources. We have over 120 lakes, a number of major stream systems, and iconic placemaking resources like Long Lake, Lake Minnotonka, our namesake Minihaha Creek, the chain of lakes, Minihaha Falls, and more. In terms of how we think and how we approach our work, partnerships really at the core of how we approach things. We and part of the reason for that is we believe that natural systems um our lakes, our streams, our wetlands that those underpin local identity and that they create a sense of place. I think Long Lake is a perfect example of that um anchored right on um the natural setting of Long Lake. And so when properly integrated, we really view the work of the watershed as an essential component in building thriving communities and sustainable cities that are great to live, work, and play in. Um, now there's a central tension in there because we know that how we choose to use our land affects the amount of runoff and the quality of water that's coming off the landscape. But the wershed district doesn't own all the land and we don't control the decisions about it. So whether we're working on building projects or shaping policy, we're always thinking about how our investments, our time, our capital, how those can be catalysts for our partners' goals in the built environment like the city. We do that by starting with science. So we take a datadriven understanding of the wershed and then we try to layer in our partners' objectives which might relate to things like transportation and infrastructure improvements, community development, parks and open space planning and of course the community and the people that live in there so that we can build amazing places in the watershed that are really great for the environment but they're good for the communities and the people that live in them. And I mentioned one of the principal ways that we achieve our mission is by building capital projects. Those projects we hope measurably improve water quality and reduce flooding. And as we think about projects, just like in life or business, the watershed district believes that focus brings success. Um on a capital project planning front, focus allows us to sustain attention in areas of high need. It helps us understand what the local priorities are. Helps us build situational awareness and the relationships we need to actually get things done. So we currently have four major areas of capital project planning and implementation on the map here. We have our lower 44 square mile wershed which is the mini hot cakes wershed and then upstream we have what we call our lake Minnotonka strategy. This is where the watershed is focused on the three largest tributaries to Lake Minnetonka which represent double the direct drainage area to the lake and not coincidentally all drain to bays that are impaired for water quality like Long Lake which drains down to Tanager Bay. So within the 12 square miles of the Long Lake subwaterhed we have a strong history of partnership and investments to improve Long Lake. In the 90s, the wershed worked with city partners to implement a suite of projects to improve water quality in the lake, including the construction of two regional storm water ponds that sit north of the lake, the Deer Hill and County Road 6 ponds, which are owned and operated by the district. We enhanced existing storm water ponds and did some shoreline restoration at Nelson Lakeside Park to treat runoff from the western downtown area of Long Lake. And there was some inl work with some Allen dosing in the lake. Um that work some of which is depicted here was then subsequently followed with a partnership later um where the district which the district forged with the metropolitan council to conver convert the former wastewater uh treatment pond which sits just south of Highway 12 into a wetland and stream channel restoration creating around 17 acres of flood storage and water quality improvement. about 10 acres of restored green space for the surrounding neighborhoods. So now this I think this is picking up where Scott left off, our more contemporary era of partnership. He mentioned that in 2014 following the completion of the state's total maximum daily load which identifies pollution reduction targets for cities for the five impaired water bodies in this area that are shown on the map. um that in 2016 the cities um with vision the Madina or Long Lake and working with Long Lake Waters the grassroots association passed a resolution of partnership saying let's work together to pursue water quality projects and grant funding in coordination um after initial efforts to manage KARP and we heard about how those are ongoing that were undertaken by Long Lake Waters in 2018 the watershed was more formally invited into the partnership and we secured around $100,000 in state grant funding to do some monitoring diagnostic in this area to identify a next wave of projects which led to the development of this Long Lake Creek roadmap which we're here to talk about and brings us here tonight. That road map used uh data, field data, monitoring data collected across the system and broke this uh approximately 12 square mile wershed into manageable units or management units. And in each one, we're identifying what the water quality issues are and what's causing them. But importantly, we're identifying a suite of strategies and capital improvements that will help us all meet the water quality goals. So, I think Scott covered this as well. Um, but uh we've identified 34 projects that are recommended for uh implementation um that when integrated with local improvements and if implemented are estimated to achieve the load reductions necessary to remove Long Lake from the impaired waters list as well as addressing water quality goals for some of the other lakes as well. Um talking briefly about the strategy to achieve those lasting water quality results. The road map sets out a suite of priorities that address the root causes of the water impairments. Regional storm water treatments at the top of the list is the first priority to cost effectively treat large drainage areas within the watershed. Uh this includes the retrofit of three regional ponds that are already in the landscape. um improving on assets that we already own and operate from the '90s and the construction of additional treatment for more of the developed downtown Long Lake area. In parallel with regional treatment, the road map also identifies a suite of opportunity zones is what we're calling them. These are other landscape projects, areas where we know projects could be integrated uh with public infrastructure improvements or perhaps private development. We've seen some examples of this up in the northeast corner by Holy Name in Madina where community development staff have nudged developers our direction as they're planning single family subdivisions for wetland banking projects where we're working together on some of the technical feasibility and potentially bringing capital to the table um and in other developments where they've pushed for conservation subdivisions. So the road map identified around 20 opportunity zones that can help guide all of us as partners moving forward to usher water quality improvements into other work that might be happening. And then finally, there is a place for addressing some of the water quality issues that come from within the lake or internal loading through the use of alum dosing after some of those landscape projects are moved forward. Um, I wanted to just have a quick plug here for the first regional storm water project, the County Road 6 retrofit that's moving forward. That's in the city of Orno that's in design. That's been through community engagement. It's gotten strong support from Long Lake Waters and we were able to secure resolution support from the Orno City Council and that's being prepared for bid later this year and that will further reduce uh pollutant loading into Long Lake by around 40 pounds per year. So, a pretty good return on investment there. And we were pretty pleased to see that project and just all of the work of the three communities and this broader partnership and the Long Lake Waters Association get some positive media attention uh in last week's Laker Pioneer. So, if you haven't seen that yet, you probably have, but check it out. Um so with county 6 underway um we have as uh Scott mentioned secured additional grant dollars to then evaluate opportunities where we could integrate regional storm water into more of the developed or um urbanized landscape of downtown Long Lake. And that's work that Rachel Baker is going to be leading on our team. So I'm going to turn to her. She's got a couple of slides to talk you through um the goals of that feasibility work, the process that we'll step through and the timeline. and then we'll see if you have any questions. Great. Thank you, James. Welcome, Rachel. Hello. Good evening. For those that don't know, Rachel's father's name is on that plaque over there is former mayors of the city of Lawn Lake. So, Rachel Bash made a name and welcome. It's great to see you. Uh, yes, of course not. She grew up here in Lawn Lake and now she's here uh helping to improve the water quality of Lawn Lake. So, that's great. Good to see you, Rachel. To be here. All right. So, um, as James teed up for me, um, this, uh, feasibility is going to be led by our projects and planning team, um, in collaboration with city staff, uh, that we help hope to kick off this summer. Um, so the downtown management unit area of Long Lake totals 518 acres. Um, it spans from the Orno schools on the far west side to about Red Rooster on the east side of town. And this area all drains to Nelson Lakeside Park before flowing into Long Lake. Uh the management unit has nearly four times the volume of nutrient loading per unit area compared to the other management units uh draining to Long Lake. Uh this is largely due to the high impervious surfaces um in the commercial and industrial corridor in between the old Highway 12 and the bypass. Um, as James mentioned, the road map identified various cost-effective opportunities to build or improve storm water management projects uh that would reduce this volume and pollutant load leaving the management unit. And we um obtained uh $175,000 in state grant funding to p pursue this feasibility. Um and our hope is to collaborate with the city to see how we can integrate uh storm water improvements into the downtown landscape. Um by exploring these various opportunities in and between the shaded areas on the map there. From there, we can evaluate each project opportunity to determine which projects are most coste effective and which we can move forward as partners. Uh coordinating on project implementation and developing a funding strategy to implement these uh projects will be able to drive meaningful movement uh toward meeting those state water quality standards. Uh as far as timeline and next steps go, uh MCWD staff is finalizing a request for proposal and plan to review with city staff prior to releasing it. Uh once we've selected a qualified firm, uh the feasibility will begin this summer. We anticipate the feasibility will take about six months. Um, so we'll be back before you uh to present the feasibilities recommendations in early 2025 or 2026 or and late 2025, early 2026. Um, and then from there um MCWD and Long Lake uh can work together to apply for applicable funding opportunities and then move project into design. So with that, we have a few actions we hope you will consider. Um, we've appreciated the partnership and collaboration with uh staff. so far and are excited to get started on this next PA phase of partnership and thank you for allowing us to present and I'll turn it back to you for any questions you may have for me or James. All right, thank you Rachel. Any questions for James or Rachel? So you'll come up with some strategies for different projects and different price points and figure out what kind of makes sense to move forward on a based on the cost and a likelihood of getting funding. Yeah, we'll we'll kind of consider projects on multiple factors. Cost effectiveness, how much loading um you know how much loading we can address. Um and then what's feasible, you know, is it is it on public property? is it on an area that um will be able to be um maintained uh appropriately. So, there's lots of different factors that we'll talk about. Um we'll come up with some sort of um kind of matrix to to weigh all the pros and cons of each and um the recommendations will kind of come together and and we'll compare each other them against each other. Scott, did we look at a project was uh many haha watershed district years ago come in and look for a project that involved um uh in some sort of uh tunnel or drainage drainage. It's still kind of that idea, right? We just don't know. It's a a public area that could be used if we do it right. There's that one big large ravine that we walked the one night that could be maybe reconstructed, redirected. So yeah, that's something that same kind of idea of projects. Hopefully we can find, you know, things like that through that feasibility that are have already been identified but will be cleaned up a little bit more. Okay. Because I don't I can't remember why we didn't move forward. I think it probably had something to do with expense. I believe that was just the first time you guys did your findings or was that back in 23 as you when you identified some of possible locations? I don't remember. Yeah, I'm not sure Scott why that wouldn't have moved forward. To answer um council member's question, we'll be looking at the treatment train that's already in place. There is storm water in place as it works its way down to Nelson Parkside Pond. So just like with the county road 6 project, one of the most cost-effective things that we can do is how do we retrofit the systems that we already have to squeeze every last drop of water quality treatment out of that. I think the flow path from um Hullbrook down to Nelson Parkside Ponds. that goes behind Pioneer Museum and to the and to the ponds. you know, we're particularly interested in. And then um while uh we'll be also looking at how do we integrate water quality and storm water improvements into if there's planned street public improvements long-term or private redevelopment and how we have quite a broad um portfolio of projects where we've done that in other communities with district capital, diverting water off of maybe a a main trunk line, pulling it into private property and and managing it that way. Um, so we're not going to be looking at just a single project. And as far as cost and benefit and cost to implement, we're always thinking about what's the right funding strategy. And I think here with the fact that um the state has funded the broader assessment of the entire subwaterhed, they've seen fit to then grant a second round of investment for us to plan um projects that would fit within Long Lake. Typically that means that if you identify a cost bene cost beneficial project that you'd be quite competitive for capital funding from the state too. Um so we are thinking about you know cost to implement how we get work actually in the ground and not just study things. Well, I can make a motion, if it works, to adopt resolution number 2025-12, accepting the Long Lake Creek Road Map and supporting the ongoing partnership with the Minihaha Creek wershed district and cities of Madina and Orno to advance efforts to improve water quality in the Long Lake Creek subwaterhed. Second motion and a second. Any further discussion? All right. All those in favor signify by saying I. I. Opposed. Motion carries unanimously. So, thank you. You guys do great great work and uh you know, I walk around Lone Lake every day and it's just as you think about all the the creeks we have going through town and coming from the lake and going to Lake Minnetonka, it's it's there's a lot a lot going on, a lot of water flowing uh different directions around. And so it's we appreciate you guys and the work you do keeping our lake clean. We've had a lot of success in the last couple years with Lawn Lake in particular and removing the carp as you mentioned and good feedback from residents and lake users about the the better w water quality in Lawn Lake. I know you you were a partner with that as well as some other entities. So thank you for your efforts on that. Do you guys work with public and private property or is it Absolutely. We've got a whole range of projects that we've done. and council member newcomer in in partnership with private land owners. Okay. And so we've got a whole portfolio of those on the website. We can send you some follow-up information where um private business campuses are redeveloping um and we're pulling regional storm water into those properties to treat it for a larger public good with our technical expertise and some of our capital funding. So we are just looking at public improvements. Perfect. And I would just say um I echo back to Mayor Miner on behalf of our board. We deeply appreciate the partnership of Long Lake. It means a lot to us to have your support and we wouldn't be here without it. So we look forward to carrying the work forward with staff. You've probably seen some of these, but we have some very simple handouts. You can leave them up front for the public or share them with the council, but I'll I'll leave these with the staff, too. Thank you. Great. Thank you. Thanks. All right. Appreciate you joining us this evening. Thank you. With that, we will move on to item 7B, ordinance amending section 19 of the zoning code to update requirements for residential, business, and swimming pool fences. Janette, must be you. Thank you, mayor, and members of the city council. Uh before you this evening, um we have an ordinance uh staff has prepared. Uh this was a partnership between myself, our planning consultant, also our city attorney, gave it a quick scan as well. Um, as we talk about our goals every year, there's always something that we think back and reflect and go, "Oh goodness, that really should have been included." And this is one of those that I think we've had that regret about for a couple of years. Because when you talk about um the top 10 things we probably uh receive feedback from from residents, our fencing standards is one of them. We've been aware for some time that our fence standards are um quite outdated and really in need of uh being b brought up to current with not just our local communities but uh I I would say the bulk of the metro. So um the ordinance before you the planning commission reviewed this at their May 13th meeting. Um no one attended the public hearing to provide any comment. Um the draft ordinance would amend section 19 of our zoning code to include some updates. For one, um code currently requires erosion control and construction fences, but yet our fence code um doesn't really allow them. So, we wanted to rectify that by better addressing temporary fences and seasonal fences like your um you know your gr when you've put down new grass seed, you know, your seasonal only type garden fences um to recognize recognize those as being exempt from requiring fence permits but subject to standards and that they don't remain in place year round. The intent is seasonal. Um so, first wanted to recognize those in the draft. Um, our current fence code actually requires a survey for submission with a fence permit application. And if you've ever uh had to acquire a survey, you know that that is a rather costly uh situation there. Um, but we have discovered that technology has changed quite a lot over the last few decades since the last time anyone looked at our fence code. And um generally, more often than not, we found that we're able to accept a site plan utilizing GIS data that's available through Henipin County. Um really with a public property information search, people can see the boundaries of their property and draw in where their fence will be and provide us with enough information that we feel confident um issuing a fence permit. And that's information that's available to residents at no charge. Um so we wanted to be sure that um we allowed for a detailed site plan that um documented documents the fence's location um you know for submission with the fence permit application. Another thing, uh, the the real one here, this was the big push that we hear the most about, is that right now our fence requirements state that all residential fences must be set back at least 1 ft from all property lines, which I know we talked about this previously at the council level. What that results in is uh, two properties next to each other with a fence one foot in and not a lot of room to mow in between. And um there are a lot of folks out there over the years that have asked many times, you know, why can't we do a boundary laying fence? It would be a lot cleaner. My neighbors and I want to work together on it, you know, and and that has never been something we've been available to make open as an option for residents. The ask is coming more frequently. Um, I had actually recently received one and a copy of that email was in your packet and um, that kind of prompted us to put this on the radar and maybe finally uh, put these amendments to paper for once and for all and and accomplish something that will that will help our residents, especially as we're seeing neighborhoods turn over to new populations. So, um the proposed language rather than stating that all residential fences have to be set back one foot um would state that um fences have to be on the private property owner's property um behind the boundary um and also that boundary line fences would be uh possible with notorized signature of all adjoining property owners. That was something we found in a lot of examples we looked at. Rather than trying to ask residents of course to come up with the best way to do a notorized statement, our intent at the staff level would be to create a form that would go along with a fence permit application in that situation that essentially would have the applicant saying, I have presented these plans and this is consistent with what I'm making a permit application for. and then the uh adjoining neighbors being able to say, "I have reviewed these plans and consent to construction of the fence on a boundary line." So, we'd be preparing a form for them to use. I am a notary here at city hall. Of course, our local bank right in town, pretty much everybody who works there is also a notary. So, obtaining a notorized signature shouldn't be too terribly much of a challenge because I I certainly am happy to make myself available for that at any time. It's interesting to note that um business fences business businesses have been allowed to have boundary line fences for quite some time. Residential fences have been prohibited from that. So essentially we're looking to correct that and standardize the language between both types of fences. We also wanted to be um a little more current in recognizing swimming pool fences. Um the standard at last update uh more than 20 years ago now was um to require exactly a 6ft tall fence to surround a pool. Um the current standard is really um a 4ft fence um minimum. So what we uh what the language that we have before you um proposed would be to allow um a fence that is at least 4 feet in height equipped with safeguards to prevent small children, you know, from um accessing at at their wish. Um but also stating that the maximum fence height consistent with all of our residential fencing would be six feet. So, I do want to point out that um Council Member Quali caught one reference here that was a cross reference in our code earlier today on page 53 of your packet near the bottom um under subdivision C uh number four. There's a note here that fences on all corner lots erected within 30 ft of the intersecting property line shall be subject to section 19 subdivision 8. That should actually be subdivision 11. So, we have corrected that in the copy for signature this evening. It was an excellent catch. We appreciate that catch. Um, and uh, in case the question isn't in the back of anyone's mind, we also did a little walk through zoning code and uh, were able to recognize that things like sideyard and front yard and lot line are actually defined in code. So, if there's a question about whether definitions exist, they do in the definition section. And with that, if anybody has any questions, the planning commission, you know, voted unanimously to recommend adoption of this. Uh we as a staff are very excited about it because it's going to simplify a lot of things for us and hopefully make some of our residents happy. This eliminates that little where you can't connect the fences. Exactly. Okay. That was weird. And uh it it it was weird. It was absolutely weird. We we acknowledge that. Um it has been more of more and more of an ask and the more we think about it the more having a fence one foot in on each side it just it's not clean and people want to improve their properties and make it look nice and if they want to work together to do that this will enable that. So I just had one quick question that because I have it's staring at me. So fences in the required front yard should not exceed 3 and 1/2 ft. Yes. What do you mean by required front yard? When would when would it be required? Um fences in the I was just curious. I there may be a logical explanation but for some reason it's not jumping out. So yeah number five fences and required front yard. I am going to say let's call that an amendment because I think that that should just simply say fences in the front yard shall not exceed. So let's strike required. That's what I was. You are you are absolutely correct. But maybe look as you look at this code, you'll see the things that are struck are existing language that we're getting that we're eliminating. The thing the items that are underlined is the new language. Um and everything else is existing content. So this is an opportunity to clean up. So a word here and there in existing content. So we would strike required from number five on page. number five required and then number four the get it getting it to the right one to subdivision 11 that correction with those two corrections I think you know what sub that subdivision is it's um it relates to kind of sight lines for traffic because it's on the corner what it was pointing to was a subdivision regarding drainage okay so bas impressed you memorized the ordinance and knew I looked it up so one thing that came up was the erosion control. Mhm. Um you may not know this was a property near me that would leave up that would leave up erosion control for years. Yes. Is erosion control like is it what governs erosion control because it's kind of Yeah. There's kind of two different things. There's there's the fence that a certain somebody left up for several years. Yes. Um and to this date there's still uh at the bottom of and I wish they were still here. The Miniha Creek Yes. uh demanded pond or whatever you want to call it on the Cook property. Um there's still uh catch like can I don't know what you call it the the material down there. It's not a permanent solution. Mhm. Does does it land under the fence stuff or do we have a separate erosion control? I would say it probably falls within a little bit of both to some degree. There's some determined on the project. If there was a reason that the city engineer found that it needed to remain in place for some reason, then of course we wouldn't be requesting it be removed immediately. However, if we have requested it be removed, we now have this really nice provision in this in this proposed ordinance that would say you have to take this out within 14 days of receiving written notice from the city. Yeah. and and considering it, there's a non-zero chance it was not installed correctly and the city engineer probably wants it to stay there for a long time. Didn't know if that fits into this conversation or if that's a totally different thing cuz in 50 years there shouldn't be stakes with we may see another permit application at some point for that area and that might be a good time to be able to deal with some of that as well. Okay. So Mike down below is that um like watershed kind of is that that so how how that property was on it had to collect all the water um had to be accounted for and then there's this basin and I guess there's this drainage thing that goes underneath where our driveway is and then it goes out into something that's supposed to like disturb filter and and let it go down in some sort of not white ro flow like kind of capture a little it before it goes into the wetland. And that um the the fence erosion control up by our driveway was taken out, but the the one down lower hasn't. And nobody sees it other than the people, the three houses that live back there. Maybe you see it. I Okay, take make that. But I I didn't know if there's like rules that govern that. So that that whole project kind of feels like it's it's been neglected. Mhm. I don't know if it'll ever be completed. Um but uh if it's a fence thing and they're and they're violating something, then then that's the the teeth that the city has then to to go after it. But there may be legitimate erosion issues and concerns with how that was implemented. And who do you ask that question of? Janette. She has all the answers. And Janette will ask the city engineer. um because we'd rather specific to the circumstance of course you know of course we don't want to have erosion yeah happen there but you also don't want to have this unsightly thing exist there forever right and I I'm guessing that seven years might be the beyond what the expectation was certainly beyond the 180 days we're discussing tonight so you want this take out the temporary one and but maybe look at is there something that should be more permanent well I think that the entirety of that particular thing and again I'm sorry that we're kind of going our thought to the fancy But it is Miniha was here. Miniha demanded that be made a certain way. Okay. Right. And that's what was claimed to have been done, but I think we had some issues with this developer before with with like a discharge issue or something from that. There's a lot of issues that surround this. Okay. And I don't know. It feels like he's kind of not around anymore. So, I don't know if this thing will get resolved until somebody purchases the property. My guess would be an opportunity will be will be arising to deal with that and other issues at a later date. Yes. So is it down to just three? There's two lots left. Two. Oh, so they're still going after the the two lots, two acts. That's my understanding is those lots are separated. They're very they're very small to build on. Um probably if you look at it, you a lot of people have asked me what's there and they say, "Oh, there's one lot left." I'm like, "No, there's two." So, it's it's very tight because doesn't the one have a driveway easement? Yeah, that's my driveway. The one lot on the very end has three houses using the driveway behind and three houses theoretically using the driveway in front. So, it's it's a little hindered. Um, but anyway, it was I was again I saw the erosion controls and thought, "Hey, this might relate to that." I'm not sure. Um, uh, our chicken ordinance, the one that went up, didn't that have some fencing stuff in it, too? That's a good question. It It's It does. It It would be separate. Yes. I don't recall all the provisions off the top of my head, but that would be specific to chickens. Chickens. Yes. Uh, Janette, with consistency, like number four there on page 53 that we're like um striking out 30, the the the tech, the word 30, and just using the number 30. Mhm. Um like why don't we do that in some areas but not others? Like if you look at six, you know, we stroke out 10, but five is still down below. And that was kind of grammar standard that everything generally in your basic language arts 101. It seems like a lot of times anything under 10 is spelled out, but anything any in numbers 10 and over um in your sentence structure um have typically just you you're able to just simply use the number rather than spelling out 30. So that was just never knew that. I didn't know that. There's my thing I learned from 10 and under, you can just write the number. 10 and over, you have to 10 under 10, you would spell it out. Eight would be ei, right? Um, but 18 is just 18. The idea is that you're supposed to write your letters and memos so an eighth grader can read them. They can read 1 through 10. They know what those are. Maybe after 15, like they don't know how to read that number. Thought you still council people. All right. Okay. Thank you. So really those two adjustments then right? Yes. Correct. Four and five. I can make a motion. Um thank you. Oh, sorry. And if it's easiest, you can simply say as amended. I I can recognize the changes to numbers four and five on page 53 as striking required and changing subdivision 8 to subdivision 11. Sounds good. I make a motion to adopt ordinance number 2025-01 amending section 19 of the city zoning ordinance to update requirements for residential business and swimming pool fences as amended with the following amendments to um uh section C um number four fences to replace section 19 subdivision 8 with section 19 subdivision 11 and in um bill uh section C se uh number five striking required front yard so those sentence reads fences in the front yard shall not exceed 3 and 1/2 ft in height and was there something else I think that's good all All right, I'll second that motion and a second. Any further discussion? All right, all those in favor? I opposed. Motion carries unanimously. Great. Thank you for that, Janette. Good to check that one off the list. All right. Seven, item 7 C, adoption of Kodakonic policy for city council and city advisory boards. Janette, this is you again. Thank you, mayor. I think rather than uh going through the the policy again, I think maybe we'll just focus real quick. I know the council's reviewed this um at at a couple meetings now. Um after we reviewed a first draft, the council's direction um was to um amend it amend the code of conduct policy to be more reflective of not just the city council but to include boards and commissions as well. So the advisory boards um city attorney ths provi prepared those updates for us uh that was reviewed at the May 6th meeting and then there was uh some continued discussion relating to um in the events uh you know of of a formal complaint and the hearing process. Um, and I know that um, our city attorney had some conversation with council member quali um, to arrive at adding a little bit of additional language in this section. It's redlined here. Adding the language that during the review, the council shall give due consideration to the individual members constitutional and statutory rights. if after a hearing and review the council violation or finds that a violation of law etc. Um, so, um, I know city attorneys consult on that and we talked about it a little bit as well. And one of the things he said is, you know, the city does put itself at at risk for liability if they were to um, be a little bit too heavy-handed with respect to removing or censoring somebody that was improperly censored for uh, maybe for political reasons. Political reasons. Sure. So with that adjustment, um the council or staff is uh simply looking for the council to weigh weigh in there. If there's any additional feedback we need to incorporate, we'd be happy to take that back to our attorney. Um otherwise, if uh the council's feeling like we've heard this a few times and you're ready, we'd be happy to welcome a motion to adopt the the policy. I can make a motion to You're just on a roll. Yes. Adopt the code of conduct policy for the city council and city advisory boards as presented. Second Janette's happy that. All right. Motion and a second. Any further discussion? All right. All those in favor? I opposed. Motion carries unanimously. Great. That's third time's a charm, I think, on that one. and we have a really uh really good kodicottic now for our council and boards and commissions to follow. So appreciate that and no problem. Um, from my perspective, it was important to be able to clear this hurdle. Um, as well because the amendment that I'm preparing to city code for the council and administration chapter um I I also wanted to reflect the title of this policy. Um, so having having this finally adopted um means that I can reflect that in my draft and now we can work at moving forward with that as well. So everything ties together. Thank you very much. That's nice. Thank you. Great to have that done. All right. So, with that, move on to item 7D is in David. Approve establishing the position of part-time firefighter. Scott. Uh, thanks, Mayor. So, this item is essentially more of a bookkeeping item. Um, as you know, the amendment that was signed with Orno um um allows or may allow Long Lake to hire part- timerrs, but has been identify that Orno staff supports the part- timerrs and Long Lake staff supports the pain on call um firefighters. And so what this is doing is just allowing us if we get to a point where we need additional part- timerrs because something didn't go as planned. Um this does not uh allow any risk I guess you want to say for um any of Long Lake residents or any of our contract cities um to you know not have firefighters for fire service. Um, and so just with that being said, this is just uh a bookkeeping to establish this position because currently we do not have this position underneath our organization. So this develops the job description and allows um staff to hire or at least post to hire if we have to and we would get obviously one more um blessing from the council. But um right now we're not looking to do that. Um we're focusing heavily on our paid on call and hoping the part- timerrs from or can continue to fill the duty crew shifts along with all of our paid on call volunteer shifts. So um we're just kind of making sure we have our established position in organization even if we may need to use it moving forward even in a positive manner maybe helping out the GP development too. So um with that in your report does show a summary of the position and actual uh full job description also is attached in your packet. Um I guess just with that um I will take any questions. Great. Thank you Scott. And yeah kind of you ask staff to put this together. Well they actually put it together back in January. Um but to bring it forward now just you know we council only meets every two weeks sometimes three weeks and and uh this is a public safety matter. So, in the event that we needed to to launch a hiring process, I didn't want to have to wait another two weeks to get it going or anything. So, this kind of um at least gets that that aspect of it ready to go. So, appreciate your work on that. And um one question I have is benefits, you know, position under position details, benefits. Um, do we need to put anything in there about um this is a a parahel eligible position as far as the um the uh part-time police and para police and fire do you think? Or um that one I think is automatically qualified. If you're a part-timer, you qualify for parah. You're not getting vacation as much as you would as a full-time employee. So, you're still going to earn your safe and sick going through all the ones that are, you know, state statutes. you're just not going to earn um um health insurance also as a benefit. All right. So, want to make sure and do we want to leave the the uh dollar amount for compensation in there or just going to leave that blank? That one is currently what we are paying our paid on call duty crew shifts. So, the part-timer would also be in line with that. Okay. I just think for you know this is something that's going to sit commencement with um experience or something. No, I mean, if we're putting this policy in for future use, I mean, it may have changed or may, you know, that's a good point to all of our I can expand on that section just a little bit. Um, it it does say the city's 2025 salary pay plan is amended to include the part-time firefighter position. You know, part-time firefighters shall be compensated at a rate of $20 per hour. The hourly compensation rate may be adjusted from time to time by resolution of the council. Okay. All right. All right. that. So the idea behind that was that not only could you do that as a separate resolution, but at year end when we're adopting the salary pay plan by resolution for the coming year, this will also continue to be included as a line item within that. That helps for clarification. Okay, great. Thanks. All right, any other questions for staff on this one? If not, I'll make a motion to adopt resolution number 2025-15 establishing the position of part-time firefighter and to authorize the fire chief and city administrator to hire for the position as needed to supplement fire department staffing levels. Second. Thank you. Motion and a second. Any further discussion? All those in favor? I opposed. Motion carries unanimously. Great. Thank you, Scott. Okay, that brings us to turn the page. Um 7E as an Edward Fire Department news and updates mentioned the the forum that was a couple weeks ago. So some good information there that we laid out uh sort of the course of the future where the cities of Orno Lake are working on a drafting a joint powers agreement or JPA to create a a jointly operated fire department. Um we hope that there'll be other cities interested in that as well. Specifically um uh Madina and Minnitanka Beach in some shape or form. So that's moving along. We're getting a draft kind of going for that joint powers agreement and our fire chief and his leadership team has been working very closely with the Orno fire department uh leadership and uh our city administrators have been working together on sort of um working out uh operational issues that need to kind of converge as the departments work more closely together including equipment and and personnel and that sort of thing. and that's going uh very well as we got an update during the council or the work session. So that's a little update there. But besides that um any any other updates Scott or others want to naming process naming. Okay. Yeah. Then and we've we've asked uh we've pulled together fire chiefs have pulled together a group of firefighters from both departments to form a committee to come up with some naming options for the fire department. part of the um first amendment to the contract. Exhibit D laid out uh kind of the parameters of of coming up with a new name for the jointly operated fire department that would reflect uh kind of the community as a whole and that sort of thing. So, the fire um already a couple of ideas floating around, but uh nothing official yet and just some the firefighters are going to work mostly amongst themselves to come up with some naming options and then once that occurs, we'll uh both city councils will kind of look at some options there as far as getting input from the greater community to to come up with a a hopefully a really good name for our our uh fire department that will take effect on hopefully around January 1st, 2026. as the plan. Good point there as well. Anything else others want to mention? All right. All right. Good. So, with that, we'll move on to item eight. Other business go around. Council member newcomer. No, I'm good. No. Beginning of summer. So, yeah. Eventually, hopefully. It's got It was pretty cold out there today. It didn't seem like summer, but it's around the corner. Great. Yeah. I guess I'll do a question for Scott. I was just looking around at like no parking signs. Do we have a stash of signs somewhere or we may have some, but they're going to be non-compliant. So, all new ones have to be reflective and they have to follow new sizing requirements, all that stuff. So, how much about average cost? 100 bucks. What? Like 100 bucks. Oh, like So, I mean these are just not like just oneoffs. These are like you should put 30 grand into the budget next year instead of doing signs if that's Can we just dig a trench too or is that going to be Well, that road is needs to be redone anyways, but it's just it you could tell from the picture it was gravel. It hasn't been upgraded since that and from that 1940s picture is gravel. Gravel's not allowed as right. So that road is this thick. It's not a very solid road. So it's just freezing and and that's why it still has ditch draining. Yeah. Well, I was just looking on Amazon here. They're like 20 bucks, but I don't know if they're compliant. Well, then that's the next dorm rooms or something. Or they're really thin plastic. So, you have to get the ones that are good metal. So, I mean, I know there's a handful of vendors that do it. We just have to get pricing. Yeah, but you're figuring 100 bucks a popish. Well, I don't think that those won't be. No, they won't be there. The park ones we looked at might have been closer to that. Those were a custom more of a custom sign, but your standard This is something you can get from econo signs and have it be compliant. It's okay. And you can use the same post. Yeah, we will. I would imagine. So, yeah, just break the rules. The new everything is putting that street. I'm not certain. Okay. Yeah. I was just curious. Anyway, we'll have to maybe ask Sean to take a look. Just kind of do a little bit of grading. That would be a question for Sean, I would say. Yeah. Yeah. Putting a Yeah. Those culvers seem like you're It's a lot more labor. Yeah. the signs. Seems like that's summer high school kid. Go do that for the next two hours kind of thing. Yeah. But yeah. Anyway, you got to look like you're making progress. Well, yeah. And they and they I mean they're the ones he showed were just all white. So yeah, there is no sign. What's the point, right? And the roads what 15t wide. So it's not a very big road, right? I know a lot of cities will put up stickers in the back when the when the sign was put up. So then the I mean probably a good GIS thing down the road but to you know track the signs as far as when the age is and that way you're not replacing every sign you know the same year and stuff kind of gradually doing it kind of thing. So I'm sure it's good quality too if that is in the sun all the time it's going to fade whereas some other ones will yeah seems like as you would want to anyway anyway not real business just curiosity. Yeah we can dig. What's that? We can dig. We probably have some flowing around. We got a few new ones. All right. Nothing else. All right. I don't have anything else to bring up. Mentioned that to the merit comments things. Uh I just have one item. Um, we did have a full commissioner meeting um, a couple weeks ago of for the LMC and Jim Lundberg did tender his resignation or retirement effective uh, December this year. Um the LMCC will go down to um a oneperson operation and it'll be less expensive. So it'll kind of be a cost savings and it'll be Tyler Ray will be taking over Jim's position and also kind of doing what he can for production. So a oneman show. Is there interest in that facility? Um yeah somewhat. There has been some activity, but not quite at the price that Yeah. And it really kind of hasn't I don't think that's that's going to materialize. At the present moment. So, you say one person probably one full-time, but they have some part-time employees. Oh, yes. the contract producers like Mark who um who's here tonight um and there were contract producers that uh um the fire forum the fire forum yep so and they have a lot of I don't know the number of contract producers but the contract producers go to all the cities so he can rely on the contract producers to produce content nice meetings guess what did what I got in the mail yesterday did you get something in the mail yesterday from company called Midco. No, it was Yeah, it was a uh kind of a we're coming to your neighborhood uh mailer and you could scan a QR code and it would give you information about the um the the map. It showed a map of of coming of when service can be available in Long Lake. So, so you didn't get one? I don't think I got it. I think they gave it to the mayor. Yeah, I think I think that's it. Hey, check your mailbox. It's just coming to Apple Glenn. thought it was junk mail, but it wasn't. So, yeah, kind of cool. It looked like it was actually like um homes around the lake, south side of the lake, uh would would be getting service as early as uh July. It said insulation in June, service in July. That's pretty right around the corner, right? Did you forward that to me? Sure. I would very much like that. So, yeah, that was it. I was Yeah, it's moving fast cuz Yeah, it was I forget when we approved that, but it was not that long ago. resale. I think yeah, Midco did actually send us some information today, but it was a little bit too aggressively advertising in nature for us to be able to post that. Um, generally as a city, you know, you want to maintain neutrality. Yeah. Kind of thing. So, but I do have, you know, we have some resources there. I did suggest to them that if they want to scale back maybe some of the advertising content a bit, we'd be, you know, happy to make some information available. Um, but in the meantime, if any council members are looking for content, I'd be happy to share that with you. Thank you. All right, Scott. I don't have anything. Janette, I don't either. Thank you. Wow. Okay. All right. All right. So, as you look at the schedule here, city offices closed the course of Memorial Day and our next meeting would be Tuesday, June 3rd, potential work session and council meeting at 6:30 June 3rd. All right. So, last call. If not, I will uh no objection the meeting by general consent. hearing. None. Meeting is adjourned at 7:47 p.m. I should have said the end of December.