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11 18 24 2024 Street Assessment Public Hearing
Maple Plain City CouncilWednesday, April 16, 2025
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welcome to the map city council Stand United States of America to the for it stands one nation God indivisible andice for all agenda move by Francis second second by DeLuca any further discussion hearing none all in favor signify by saying I I post the eyes have it five to zero um item of business before us this evening is a 2024 Street and infrastructure assessment presentation and I'm going to turn that over to our city engineer Mr oh red light's on okay that's confusing to me all right uh thank you your honor um members of the council um public that's here tonight uh the purpose of tonight is to uh talk through the uh status of the 2024 Street reconstruction project and specifically go through the uh proposed assessments for the project so what I'll do tonight is uh start by just going through a summary of uh the uh the project a little bit of the history of it um some of the costs and proposed assessments and then uh at the conclusion any uh additional information from staff or uh questions or comments from Council otherwise then we would open up a public hearing uh allow um people to um have a chance to address the Council on the proposed project and the assessments so uh starting off um by now everybody's well aware of uh the improve mov ments uh that were uh made uh Street reconstruction on Independent Street between Bud Avenue and Howard Avenue uh Bryant uh Street uh west of Bud and then Wyman Avenue uh south of Bryant uh also as part of this project was a Mill and overlay for Howard Avenue culdesac uh over uh here east of City Hall uh that work is going to be completed next spring when the wear gets put on the rest of the project and then we also had some parking lot work that was on the south parking lot in Rainbow Park a former gravel driveway or a parking lot excuse me that uh some curb gutter was put on there parking lot was expanded a little bit and that was paved um next slide please so this is just uh kind of walk through the the uh project areas here and uh the pro properties that are being proposed to be assessed uh so this is independent street again from Bud uh over to Howard U the property shown in the gray here this is uh the street Port Street and storm portion of the project so the the properties that are shown here in Gray are the properties uh in the assessment role if you go to the next slide please uh likewise this is the water portion of the project uh the water portion of the project uh if you look at the uh Pro uh properties to be a assess there you'll see that on the cell side of Independence there's some properties that aren't being assessed for water as part of this project uh their service comes off of Main Street and so um they have a street assessment as part of the project but not water go to the Sewer is next uh the sewer portion uh similar to the water um where you can see that on the South Side Independence there's some properties that aren't being assessed for sewer their service comes off of Main Street and so there um will be potentially future assessments uh when Main Street infrastructure is redone in the future next is uh Byron and Wyman uh again the street portion here you can see going from uh Bud Avenue over and around down Wyman uh the gray properties again uh properties that are um being assessed for Street portion of the project next is the water m again uh you can see here there's a couple properties here that uh don't have water assessments uh there's a vacant lot south of the Haven Homes property and then some properties on Joy Street and I believe that would be uh is that Pioneer or the kind of the alleyway there there's a a property gets it service off of that Alleyway that uh isn't included in the assessment rle for water sewer is next um and again very similar uh from the sewer from uh the accessible properties uh that are shown here next excuse me next slide please um just a little bit about kind of the the project as it's progressed here some of the communications and steps that we've taken along the way uh the project was actually started last August um summer of 2023 when the council authorized the feasibility study to be prepared um some work was done on and ultimately it was November 27th that the feasibil the draft of the feasibility study feasibility study was brought back to the council in between uh August and November there if you recall we had some Council workshops a lot of discussion kind of trying to fine-tune uh determine the exact limits of the project uh and it was uh November 27th then when that uh feasibility study was present to the council uh that a few future dates were set one is we set a date for January 10th where we had an open house where we invited people to come in learn about the project it was also intended to be uh information gathering uh effort for people that had specific concerns things that they they believe should be addressed if the project was going to move forward um so we had some of those conversations and then it was January 22nd when we had the Improvement hearing again everybody uh that was directly affected by the project would received notice had the chance uh to come uh the feasibility report was presented again and then the public had a chance to comment on the project and it was at that point uh after receiving public comment that the council authorized moving forward with the project um to put plans and specifications uh together for the project and accept bids uh bids were received and it was on April 22nd that the project was awarded Keeley construction uh month later May 28 was when the project financing was approved and uh the project proceeded from there along the way we've had some newsletters other notifications um postings on the website uh a lot of one-on-one conversations as needed uh as the project has progressed and then now we're here where the project is substantially completed and uh it's time for the assessment hearing so a preim assessment role has been put together where we've taken the estimated final cost of the project and uh determine what the proposed assessments are for each project and that has been uh posted and uh property owners have been notified uh specific to their property if go to the next slide please um so the way this has been put together that assessment role has been based on the city's assessment policy uh and is consistent with past practice on on past projects uh the project cost 35 % of all the project costs uh have been assessed on a unit basis uh that does not include the Howard Avenue culdesac or the uh Rainbow Park parking lot those are uh again we were included in the project but 100% City cost so that's not included in those costs that have been calculated for assessments um Corner lots that have been previously assessed for Street improvements within the last 10 years were not assessed for street or storm sewer uh you'll see a property on Howard Avenue that that uh came into play and then we also have some properties on Joyce that um their services and uh the assessments will be based on a a improvements to Joy not the project from this year next please um the um oh I'm sorry please go back Kevin I did miss a a couple points there um the only the the properties that are receiving Utility Services were assessed for the utilities so again we had some of those properties that their services coming off another Street aren't included in the assessment role and then the other thing I wanted to point out is that we did have them those properties uh that weren't being assessed for utilities so we had gaps if you look at the frontage of the road where we had utilities running by them not assessed the part of this project that the city uh took those costs on and are part of the city cost uh so you see that on Independence uh on Bryant where the railroad property is uh where we've uh taken those what would have been assessible cost had there been um benefiting properties there City had took on that portion of the cost next Kevin uh so uh just wanted to kind of show where we started with this at the time that we put the feasibility study together uh the estimated cost for the street and storm sewer was 1,100 26,000 some uh dollars and that equated to a unit assessment of $1,320 water uh and Sewer Services the estimated cost at that time was $446,900 182 sewer Services $338 352 uh which equated to a a unit assessment $3,700 $11.89 so uh as it was presented in the feasibility study if you were receiving benefit of all of those project elements Street and storm water sewer the combined proposed assessment at that time was $2,955 uh if you go to the next slide so now that the project has been competitively bid and is substantially completed of the actual cost that we are estimating uh to be final cost for the project uh we uh use those to prepare the feas or the assessment role so at this time uh Street and storm sewer cost of uh are at 1, 17,36 182 that equates to a unit assessment of $1,139 3 cents Water and Sewer or water uh Main and services uh the cost is $296,700 4587 sewer is $247,100 so uh the the uh assessment role as it's presented if you have all three of those elements that you're being assessed for the cost is $1 17,080 70 next slide please um the terms that are being proposed uh for those assessments is that the assessments will be payable in equal annual installments extending over a 20-year period the first installments would be payable honor before the first Monday in January 2025 after that uh the balance will bear interest at a rate of 52% anom at or from the date of the adoption of the assessment resolution next slide please so the next steps are um that we would uh again uh anything that staff wants to add or the council um after that uh we would open uh it up for public comment uh once all public comment has been heard we'll close the the public hearing and then uh Council will have a time for some more discussion uh consider the information and the comments that have been provided and then a uh a final assessment role has been uh prepared and provided to you um and so based on the information provided comments you receive would be appropriate that time to adopt a final assessment role um then um that assessment uh this you would certify the assessments and they would be provided to the county by November 30th so that they get on the tax roll for 2025 uh one thing I just did want to to point out with um kind of that unit cost assessment uh we do have some properties that are more than just one unit we have the school property here which uh you know extends a better part of the block uh in on Independence here we have the park prop uh property which again more than one unit uh Church property a larger property on the cell side Independence and then Haven Homes uh down long Wyman uh the city um is 12 a half units that is accounted for in the assessment role uh the church property is three and a half uh or 3.9 units uh that is just the street assessment again the utilities come off of Maine and then the Haven Homes property is 13 units accounted for for the street assessment and 12 units for water and sewer so just want to point out that it's uh that we had some that we made some equivalent residential calculations to be able to prepare the proposed assessment for those properties and with that I will uh turn it back to you honorable mayor and um happy to answering questions uh that you have at this time uh otherwise um I would suggest opening up public comment all right thank you Mr Martini any questions from councel or staff or comments okay at this time hearing n I'm looking for a motion to open the public hearing I'll make that motion motion by Council member Bure second second by council member Fay all in favor of opening the public hearing please signify by saying I I I I post same sign the public hearing is open at 7:16 um at this time the public hearing is open so any public is welcome to come forward to the podium we'd ask that you'd follow the same rules as used during public comment that just were respectful kind um will be limited to 3 minutes and please make sure to state your name and address clearly all right at this time we are open for public comment is there anyone to speak for public comment anyone um Don Johnson I live on the corner of Howard in Independence on the North side and I was part of the project here a few years ago when they redid Howard and my Waters hooked up on Howard they did the sewer on Howard um so I I get as I haven't been up on this I didn't know that uh what I was going to be responsible for on the other side I thought back in the time that they told you that if you did the one if you're on a corner you did the one side of the street where your sewer was and your water was and everything that uh you wouldn't be charge for the other Street for like 130 ft I thought that's what I was told when I when the when the project was done on on Howard so I'm just wondering I'm just uh what wondering what I'm responsible for here on on this and I know that uh my neighbor on the corner um he's on the south side of Independence here on Howard and he's being in charge of nothing so I guess I'm I'm address 1669 Howard sorry he's not explaining it very well can I come up there with him please no just sit tight we're charged for sewer the street and Sewer he's looking up the address no don't shush me go sit down if you don't explain it right you're not doing it right yeah I I mean I I have to look into that a little bit more but it looks like that you're you have a assessment but no utility assessment I believe um sorry I turned it off to not make noise um let me look into that more closely but I believe it was an issue or that you were assessed for water and sewer on the Howard project but not Street and that so that the street now is being assessed the street portion is being assessed on this project but it wasn't the last so if if that doesn't sound correct I got to take a look it doesn't sound correct I'm sure it was I'm sure it was charged for the street okay for the asphalt and the whole thing okay I we'll we'll take a look at that if that's incorrect then it it should be zero can you so you'll notify me or something or yes staff will follow up with um the Johnson's 1669 right okay we got no thank you for bringing that forward we didn't have any other notices before about this meeting no no so I'm just kind of surprised okay um yeah let let me take a look at that like I say we and yeah we'll love staff looking into that too because you should have received a notice earlier in the year in the open house and everything so yeah it's probably because I was maybe it was a mistake I don't know yeah okay thank you for bringing that forward thank you you'll address that anyone else to speak for public comment hi my name is Jane goset and I currently reside at 5410 Bryant Street I have a couple of questions one I've already gone over with David Martini prior to the meeting but I would just like it on record that for the homes that got service or letters saying that our service pipes contain lead I would like to know how that process was conducted just because I don't have a lead pipe going into my my house so I'm wondering did they do specific water testing to our service lines or how it was conducted that it became that we would have some lead piping does anyone know can you address that Mr Martini please uh I don't know the answer to that uh but I'm making note of it so that we can follow up with you specifically uh could tell you that obviously with this project all of the work that was done no Leed we we know that uh at least on the public portion there's no lead uh so I I have to look at the records so kind of what that inventory showed for you as to why you had got that letter and so I can follow up with you separately on that I know I don't have to but I did say that I was medically tested to make sure that I didn't have high levels of lead in my blood and I was cleared medically cleared at 2.0 which is within normal range and missc it just to be clear I want to make sure we have it for our notes since we don't have in writing it's 5410 Bryant Street y you have that staff you're welcome okay thank thank you the other question that I wanted to bring to the council tonight is the sod care our sod has not been laid yet and we did get a notice saying that it becomes our responsibility on December 6th to take care of the sod as we all know it's going to snow and it's going to freeze and that is not sod's best friend and all that I've heard from in here tonight from a few people that live in Maple plane that have had this project before they've been fighting with the city for numerous years to get their grass redone so I would just like some sort of approval or confirmation that if our yard turns to crap where the project and the sod got laid that I'm not responsible for replacing that portion and I say that because my my portion is very small but some of my neighbors have a very large portion of their yard in sod my is maybe the size of this Podium right here so I'm not deathly concerned because my dogs would probably pee on it and kill it anyway but I would like someone to address what's going to happen if the sad does not turn out and dies yeah so uh we have we have two kind P we have two pieces of this uh we have Independence and then the Wyman Bri Bryant the independence portion of that the sadw was placed and we had were able to have our full 30day warranty period during the growing season so once that it expired then at that point we do turn it over to the property owners to maintain it from that that point uh on wman and Bryant one it's not done like you noted half of it is still needs to get taken care of the other half was uh recently put down that warranty period will be in the spring so that once uh once that works done we get to the growing season again City will take care of it for 30 days and then you'll get notice as to when that warranty period ends and that your responsibility for maintaining it at that point begins would you send out better noce in the spring you'll get one that that says when that that I just want something on record that says past December 6th you're responsible and I'm not responsible yet Y is it fair was that letter sent at the same time to the entire project is that why that dat correct I believe it was so there well staff will get a new letter to the Bryant and Wyman yes yes so they have something after and then what I would say about independence again so the warranty period is done it um it's the property owner responsibility take care of it in the spring if there's some concerns related to it we'll be happy to look at it um determine if there's something kind of related back to the project or work the contractor did that needs to be followed up by but um at this point we're considering the the independence portion the property owners's responsibility the other question that I had is that I did see the slideshow and I appreciate you guys being under budget but uh what I don't understand is the 5.5 a percent so we have I believe what until November of 2025 to pay off the full assessment before the 5.5% January January first Monday and January first Monday so 2025 in January I can pay Maple Plane full assessment or I can be charged to 5.5 APR correct how did you come up with the 5.5 APR and who is that interest getting paid to the the uh do you want to address the Kevin or the the interest rate is based on what the city borrows the money for from uh typically uh the city would take the interest rate that they borrow the money for and then there's a percent and a half 2% that usually above that to cover financing costs of the city that's how the the rate is set well I've bought in City bonds before and so they normally don't pay out over 3.5 so again who is the extra 2% getting paid too it's it's for the city's administrative cost for financing the project okay so the total cost of the project was um it is 4,566 th000 and I don't know what 2% of that is but that just seems extremely high and and I I don't recall what the uh what the financing rate of the city was it was 4 4.5% so one 1% above what the city add a per borrowed the money for okay I I just think it's high but that's just me because we're already paying a city administrator to figure these numbers out for the project so I don't know how why we would pay on the back end but that is just me so I don't think I have any more questions right now but thank you thank you round stefen Haagen 5464 Bryant Street um I'd like to say first of all we're really happy that we have black top on briyan Street it didn't look uh too promising there late in the fall but um yeah we're very happy about that uh two concerns that we have uh was was the Landscaping that that's been addressed um but also we have a a dip in our driveway that they patched and so I'm wondering how we can be assured that they'll fix that and if we pay the full assessment what what is the incentive for them to to fix it you know I'm wondering if we can hold a portion of our assessment hold it back until the work is done maybe the landscap being included and certainly I'm thinking our driveway we had a really nice driveway and there's a there's a dip about substantial little dip um so yeah what what i' would say is so we I'll follow up with you on that that we want to take a look at that if if there's a if that's not right it needs to get added to our punish list it won't be addressed this fall but we want to make sure that it's on our list for spring um as far as the project costs go um the city holds the contractor accountable by exactly what you're saying we have a we we pay them as they go but we always have a retainage that we keep to ensure that punch list items uh thing like things like that are addressed before final payment is made to them uh we we don't do that with the assessments assessments are a portion of the project cost and that has been calculated in full um but we do have a mechanism uh to make sure that the con the uh contractors fulfill fulfilling their contractural uh requirements uh and then even once the uh project is done and paid in full there's a warrant a two-year warranty period uh for things that might come up uh once the project has been paid out two years you said two years okay right Mr Stephen hegen you're 5464 Bryant yeah okay so that's on the punch list then Mr Martini yep I I have that and then yeah and just back to the warranty period typically that would be some settlement that might appear over time things like that uh and more of the infrastructure things um that that uh restoration warranty or you know warranty period or maintenance period is obviously shorter okay and one small thing um they've left a lot of um the sign the big signs they put on the road road closed and stuff they just kind of tipped them over onto Lawns and not our lawn but our neighbors lawn and it's on the it's going to kill the grass and the the sandbags that held the sign up they're still sitting in the street so the snow plows you know they're going to be on the lawn shortly so I don't know if you can put a little more those will get cleaned up um we've been trying to have that done already it hasn't happened um any damage that's done because of that uh material that's still laying around will be the contractor's responsibility okay thank you hi Rick toar 5795 Maple Ridge Drive now I know I'm not part of this I was wondering though um I walk my dog all the time back there and I notice and I'm thinking about snow plowing here you're paved here and your curve ends and you've got on the cement about I don't know inch half an inch sitting there and I got to imagine if a plow comes through there I mean that's I mean I'm used to um the the the payit net being level so I'm just curious is it done really done is that what you no um so there there's a final lift of pavement that needs to go on and that will be next spring early summer uh the reason that we leave that add off it's when we do these full reconstructions like this um if there's some settlement especially you know the stuff that gets H done later in the year if there's settlement anything that comes up uh over the winter we can repair that before we put the final lift to Pavement on in the meantime yeah we we have that lift and um you know um address anything comes out of that sor hi I'm Greta Rivers at 4989 Independence we also have a dip in our driveway where the water stands and I'm afraid we'll have ice there this winter 4989 yes Independence M okay can we add that to the punch list to look at too Mr Martini okay thank you thank you hi one more question when they're talking about that typically an assessment isn't a closed assessment and you don't get it until the project is 100% complete how would we be getting assessed now when the project won't be done till spring I mean I know you're a nice person I've talked to you multiple times but there's no guarantee on our part that the road even if it settles and then it gets and it matches up and she's elderly is you look great though and I don't want her slipping at the end of her driveway so I mean what are the little things that we can get done and have it like to a 99% completion before we start getting assessed on a project that's not done at a higher interest rate so so one we we're going to take a look at all of this uh we're going to anything that can be addressed yet at this time of year we would try to address uh otherwise uh it would be a a springtime um correction if there's one that's needed as far as the timing of the assessment uh the process allows for us to get to this point and and calculate the assessments we're far enough along that we can reasonably assess what those final costs are going to be uh the process actually allows for you before the project starts to assess the project um with the idea that you get the comment you kind of finalize thing before you commit to moving forward so it's the problem with doing that is then you're you're even a little bit farther ahead as far as trying to estimate those costs so we feel comfortable that we're at a point where we're we've uh got a good understanding what those final costs are going to be and the the process allows for getting this done so that the the assessments can start getting paid back because the city has already financed for the cost of the project but what about the concrete problems that may arise in springtime just like he said if a plow comes and gets that lip that will all get that will all get addressed in the spring okay thank you I have a friend coming too um I'm Carrie cidel from 5400 Bryant Street and I am just curious if someone can calculate or share so I know we're going to pay this over the 20 years at the 5.5% rate what does that look like so that goes on to your property taxes and then you pay by month and do you have like clearly with daycare costs and such I really just care about what does this cost per month not I mean I care about the total but that's turn that over to I don't know how to calculate that yeah will oh I don't think it's working all right there sorry about that um yeah no you'll pay your uh property taxes um once every six months to to the county and that's when when you'll be paying it so when we're talking about this assessment here it'll be on your property tax assessment so how does that work if we just got the 2025 property tax info from hennipin County this week will that number change and we'll get a new it will change okay and then it will be a similar number for the full 20 years or it'll change each time cuz the ENT I need to go back to math class but right so this portion will be consistent over the the 20 years your property taxes well right fluctuate every year based on what the county um estimates your land value and it's kind of helpful but I was hoping for a number the I I can I can provide that Martini has that 20 years be if you had uh the full assess assessed the amount of $177,800 70 the annual uh amount is $1,429 30 perfect that's what I was looking for thank you would you repeat that though one more time 1, $1,429 30 and I'll still say approximately because that's my math not the conies [Music] does that include yes that'll be broken out in a separate line item in a in an assessment line in the property tax statement won't be included in your city tax it'll be a separate hi uh Nick altavilla 5139 independent Street and my my current issue isn't I don't think a warranty just I'd say just what they've done they originally paved over my water shut off valve on the driveway and and then they cut out a square and then they repatched that so um when I was talking to the engineer on site he said that he he recommended to rip out everything I don't know if we're at end of season and they just didn't want to um but I just want to make sure like that gets done next spring yeah NOP uh and that we won't do it this time of year because we'll be able to do a better job if we do it next year when the weather's warmer Y and then I also have a crack like on my apron so I don't know if that needs to be made record now but yeah and and I should mention too is you know there'll be a complete walk through again in the spring so we'll be looking for things like that uh to add to our punch list um I would say um I'll make note of it but also I would say in the spring anything that you notice that comes through the winter or is still on your mind in the spring I would say uh reach out to us again just to make sure that we are looking at the same thing okay and then as far as the um the interest payments is there any option to pay off early or increase so that it pays off earlier uh I know that you can pay now essentially now up until the first Monday of January without J January 6 yep till January 6 Y where you will not be assess add additional interest yeah and and then that notice I believe it it states when you would need to pay it each year if you want to pay it in full to to not pay the entrance for interest for the coming year that notice you got should have laid out uh when the payment would be you said it was 14 something I mean are we able to pay 1,500 by quarter you know twice a year or increase as much as we want I don't know the answer to that question but I'll certainly get back to Sir what is uh your name in Ni illa n 5139 independent street thank you thank you Mr ad on that notice it only says that we have one option to pay before we are locked in for that interest rate it doesn't have any other breakdown of how we can pay it in 10 years or if one of us misset you need to come to the microphone because this is being recorded okay and typically it's public comment one time okay and I'll just stress it I would say that if if you have first Monday in January pay it off without Interest being assessed for the coming year after that I would say if you're interested in paying it off that you should uh reach out to the county and ask how to EI well you could start with the city or the county to ask the appropriate way to do that okay if that's an option that would be lovely I'm Jody from I live at 5305 Bryant Street and um I had all the work done I had two driveways uh or two aprons before the project started and I only have one apron now um my neighbors right next door to my East and the other neighbor to the north they all have two driveways or two aprons um so if we could I did you you were you able to connect with Zach on that um yeah we haven't uh exactly connected but we've left so just one it Mark yep so I'm aware of that that issue um and Zach was going to touch base with you and if we were to add the second apron that would be a springtime thing but we we'll take a look at that with you and determine what's appropriate 5305 y Brian correct thank you hi Mike uh 4990 Independence uh same issue as I think Nick said with the driveway and Paving over the the water main and then Rec cutting the patch and sort of piecing it back together so um yeah same issue doesn't look the best didn't really get done properly so thank you 4990 Independence Adam Rand 1495 Wyman uh question on the sod maintenance it says after the warranty period that it's the homeowner's expense to maintain and that the S needs to be watered for minimum 2 years for the roots to take hold and at an inch rain per week which I got I don't know quick math maybe 3,000 ft of sod in my yard that could be 7 plus th000 gallons of water a year excuse me at an inch you know recommended that's is there any kind of water credits that we're going to be receiving or that's almost as much water as we use in a you know billing period currently so but that is a great question and it is on a future Workshop um discussion um we don't have a date yet because obviously it's not but that will be answered um hopefully soon and we are looking at that okay thanks and other thing would be it' be great if there was more information on payment schedules and stuff that letter basically just had a total in no other information so some better information that would be much appreciated thank you for that feedback anyone else anyone else to speak hi santra Keithley 5149 Independence I have a cap that is sitting right next to my driveway and I am afraid that if I have it plowed that cap is going to come off and it would be the gas or the sewer cap that's there can somebody take a look at that because I talked to uh Zach okay and he was a little concerned about this cap being so close you can it has a stick with a green color on it okay so I don't know if that is gas uh green should be sewer sewer y but I also have gas line somewhere in there okay so I'm not sure what's going on so if that's a sewer if it gets hit what's going to happen with the cap yeah let me uh I'll take a look at that with Zach I I I don't have an answer for you now but we can look at it thank you 5149 yes okay thank you just want to make sure we get all the numbers right hi Katie Vasser 5161 Independence um and just another punch list item um I spoke with Zach the earlier this fall about when our apron was poured there were a couple cracks and just kind of crumbled Corners y so he noted that they would redo it but I'd like it to be on the record so thanks that was 5161 Independence y thank you anyone else to speak tonight for the hearing and the third time anyone else to speak tonight for the public hearing seeing no one else coming forward to speak I'm looking for a motion to close the public hearing I'll make that I'll make that motion motion by Francis second that motion second by be any further discussion all in favor of closing the public hearing please signify by saying I I I oppose same sign motion carries 5 to Zer the public hearing is closed at 7:47 all right all right staff has notes and direction that you need yes okay yeah yep you're good and you're good Mr Martini okay with with that um we'll have discussion um regarding um the resolution um is my understanding that we could approve this resolution at the November council meeting and still be before the 30th deadline yes and that is my understanding what we are going to do so we have time to process and to follow up from tonight and to give both our city staff and our contract staff time to address um many of the things that have been expressed tonight and then we will put this resolution on the November council meeting so it will give us some time to follow up council member DeLuca did you have something to say as I was listening to the the feedback most most of the feedback from tonight seem to center around the quality work and I appreciate Dave you and your team following up with each individual making sure that their question is answered and some of this may have just been the way it was communicated but I think the essence of making sure people understand the financial pieces of this that they can pay their assessment now without financing it or if they do what that would mean I hope if anybody had a question though they'd come to the to the staff and simply ask because you can give them the exact numbers yep thank you any other discussion and then we'll make sure there's a new letter sent as well so residents have something in writing once thead is put down for the 30 days yes and then the two years for that okay perfect anything else is there sufficient time to address this punch list and financial information and get it in front of the residents prior to our next business meeting our next business meeting um is three weeks from tonight no it's next Monday oh wait I'm on the wrong date sorry this yeah this 27th right because this has to be this has to be turned over to the county by the 30th so it's the 27th which is just 25th I'll ask the question there's there's there's going to be enough time to do it well there'll be there'll be enough time to some of this is making sure that we have these documented but it's going to be Springtime work to actually make make a correction or a fix um my intent would be that we'll be following up on all these just at least make sure that everybody feels comfortable it's been acknowledged and we kind of understand where things sit right now um but just want to be clear that um most of this stuff there there won't be any work done this fall to address it but it will be in aw written part of our packet for the November 25th meeting next week on the punch list well yeah we'll we'll we'll make a note of all the stuff that we public hearing is officially closed I mean it'll show up on a on a new business in right and and I guess one thing I just want to be clear so the public hearing tonight was really to talk about the assessments the fees there there no closing date from our standpoint if people have things that come up uh concerns related to the construction the status of the project I me we'll take those any time and and take a look at it again just knowing that the time of year we're at now uh won't be really making you know we won't be pouring any more concrete uh won't be out there black top anymore those sorts of things um but we want to know about the questions concerns that people have so that that period didn't close tonight but you can come straight to us Zach if you had the opportunity to work with Zach he's he uh is a good first point of contact just because he has the most uh intimate knowledge of the details but uh either through City staff or coming directly to me or or one of the Bolton bank staff uh we'll take those comments anytime we get them and please continue to communicate with Zach regarding the project and regarding the financial end would be our city staff which is Kevin Jacob and sunny um and they will all happily help you okay any other discussion do we need to table the resolution or do we just move on no because we never so we'll discuss the resolution next week at our November 25th council meeting right okay yeah I'm having no other business come before us this evening I'm looking for a motion to adjourn I'll make that motion motion by Francis second second by Fay all in favor of AD Journey signify by saying I I um meeting's adjourned at 7:52