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10 27 25 City Council Business Meeting

Maple Plain City CouncilSunday, November 16, 2025
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Welcome to meeting Monday evening's agenda. >> I'll make that motion. >> Motion by Francis. >> I have a motion by Francis to adopt the agenda. I'll second that motion. >> Okay. Any further discussion? All in favor of adopting the agenda as is, please signify by saying I. >> I. >> I. >> Oppose. Same sign. Motion carries. Four to zero. Please stand and join us for the pledge of allegiance. >> Aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Our first item of business this evening is visitors to be heard. We do have one um visitor to be heard. So before we open up the podium, I will read our public comment. Um, public comment is a courtesy extended to persons wishing to address the city council who would like to comment on something that is not part of a public hearing. The public is invited to express any concerns they may have which are relevant to the affairs, policies, or practices of the city of Maple Plane. Speakers may approach the podium one time to make remarks that shall be limited to three minutes. Should you wish to participate in public comment, please state your name and address before addressing the council. All remarks will be made from the podium and should be made to the council as a whole. Personal attacks are prohibited as are obscene, profane, and threatening language. Public comment is not a time for council discussion or response, but for hearing the speaker's concerns only. Questions to the council will be for clarification only. If necessary, a staff report on public comment subjects will be prepared for the next city council business meeting. We have one public comment this evening. Please come forward to the podium. Introduce yourself and state your name and your address. >> John Fay, 5819 Oaks Avenue. Um, madame mayor, council, staff, hello. Good evening, council. I hope your position on tonight's recommendation to seed the city's authority to remain a local board city is to not give up control. Period. Residents were not clamoring for a change to make everybody's life easier. So, I'm not sure who's driving this recommendation, our administration or the county or why this matter failed to get scrubbed at the workshop level first. But how we got here tonight is less important than how we keep the local in the local board. Tonight's packet repeatedly notes three reasons to give up your authority to remain a local board city. All other noted benefits in the narrative just fill space because from step one of the local board, the county is there heavily involved in the process and placing multiple safeguards that extend well beyond the city's role. So, I'm going to debunk the top three. Number one, the burden to complete Minnesota Department of Revenue training. It's a 30inut tutorial. You can't fail. It's valid for four years and statute says only one board member must be trained. One, we currently have two, possibly three. There is no burden. I know firsthand. I did it twice. Number two, technical decisionmaking with potential uncomfortable consequences with residents. You're an elected official. Plan to be uncomfortable. Sometimes it's in the job description. Every day you study and make decisions on budgets, levies, property assessments, and contracts. You attend closed- dooror meetings on legal and personnel issues. You approve and deny planning and zoning matters, hold hearings, establish utility rates, plan capital improvements, and ensure the public safety. So I ask you, how would decision making on local board matters differ from any decisions you make any other day? The answer is they don't and they won't. Number three, added administrative complexities. Let's see. things like scheduling meetings, creating packets, holding hearings, working with the county, following proper noticing procedures, and adhering to strict timetables and the law. You know, the stuff city administrators are trained and paid to do every day. To conclude, 99% of valuation questions and disputes are resolved with the county assessor well before the local board convenes, which traditionally makes the meetings very short and mostly uneventful. I see no reason for that to change. But if you do give up this responsibility, you're thwarting accountability by effectively saying, "Hey, don't look at me. It was the county." If you're still unsure, ask questions. I hope this spurs some discussion later tonight as I know council member Duca and I have been proponents of maintaining local authority and he's not here tonight to engage, offer history or his insight. Thanks for your time. >> Thank you, Mr. Fay. That topic will be on our agenda later and we will have discussion then. Um, next item on our um agenda is um McGary's charity golf club presentation. So I invite general manager and owner James to the podium. You'd like to say a few words and then we'll >> love to this. >> All right. Thank you all. I'm super excited to be here and be able to give back to our community. Um, McGary's Pub has been in Maple Plane for a little over 20 years. Um, I recently took ownership about just about two years ago. Um, one thing that I hold near and dear to my heart is be able to give back to this community. Um, so four years now we've been doing that and each year gets better and better. I have just over nine grand to give back today to West Henipin Public Safety and Maple Plane Fire Department. Um, the charity golfaries will continue on forward. We've done it four years. It brings local, community, and businesses together for a great fun day while raising money for for a good cause in our community. So, thank you all. >> Well, thank you, Chef. Um, Chief Dennison and Chief D. Rose. Um, you are free to say anything if you'd like. >> Well, I would certainly like to thank James, um, all the attendees, sponsors, and everybody that contributed to the event. I'm sorry that I missed it. uh was away at training. I could have made the first day uh but we also had to reschedule the softball game and we know how that turned out later on anyway. Um [laughter] but uh thank you James. This is just another example of um a good welcome to Maple Plane and Independence and to Whips for me. I think it's fantastic the support that you are giving to our agencies um and giving right back into the communities who support these uh the members and residents of the communities. Um, I'm honored uh here to accept this from you. Uh, and I look forward to a long lasting partnership with you and your staff. >> Thank you, Chief D. Rose, Chief Dennison. >> Thank you. And I would just um echo Chief D. Rose's comments to James. I just so appreciate everything that you do for our fire department, which again allows us to give to our community. Uh using the money and the proceeds to uh benefit our fire department with equipment and purchase that we can use. Again, that turns around and just benefits the communities that uh that we serve. So, uh I appreciate our relationship uh with you and everything that you do for the fire department and for our community as a business. You're uh just stand up and you're always there. So, thank you very much. Thank you, Chief Dennis. And also with us tonight is Mayor Spencer from Independence. As many of you know, we have um invaluable relationships um and JPA's. And um we're just grateful to have you here. And would you like to say anything? >> Nope. I'm good. >> Okay. [laughter] All right. Thank you. I'd like to invite forward um the two chiefs and James and the mayors and we'll do a photo op. All right. almost. Look at that smile. >> Seth. >> Yeah, we can't either. >> We can't either >> here. Here. >> Please make sure that makes it in the minutes. [laughter] >> Thank you, James. Thank you, Mayor Spencer. >> That's exciting. All right. Next item on our uh business this evening is our consent agenda. On our consent agenda this evening is September 22nd city council workshop meeting minutes. September 22nd city council business meeting minutes. October 13th city council workshop meeting minutes. Liability TOR way sewer jetting and television RFP and resolution 2025102701, a resolution approving the quote for tax increment building certification environmental investigation for the downtown redevelopment project and the third amendment to lease agreement 2026 to 2028. There are no questions, comments, or discussion. Looking for a motion to approve the consent agenda as submitted. >> I'll make that motion. Motion by council member Francis. >> I'll second that motion. >> Second by council member Berk. Any further discussion or questions? Hearing none. All in favor, please signify by saying I. >> I. >> I. >> Oppos. Same sign. The eyes have it. Four to zero. Next item of business this evening is accounts payable. And I will turn that over to staff. >> Thank you, Madam Mayor, members of the council. Our checks uh for accounts payable uh for the month of October totaled $189,560.76. Our AC bills were $32,760.112 and our 2024 street project bills was $49,831.85. The reason that one is higher than uh usual um is because the uh storm basin over here next to the school building was fixed. >> Any questions regarding accounts payable this evening hearing? None. Looking for a motion to approve items A through C on accounts payable. >> I'll make that motion. >> Motion by I'll second that motion. >> Second by council member. Any further discussion or questions? [cough and clears throat] None. All in favor, please signify by saying I. >> I. I. >> Same sign. Eyes have it to zero. Next item of business this evening is our staff reports and it is our quarterly staff reports. So we are fortunate tonight to have um all of our staff here with us to verbally um give their reports. So we will start with Dennis. Thank you, honorable mayor, council members. Um, in your packet you have my third quarter staff report uh for the time period ending on September 30th of this year. And uh to briefly summarize that uh in the third quarter, we responded to 83 calls for service. So at the uh end of the third quarter, we were at 288 total calls for service for the year. Uh that compares with 279 calls at the same time last year. So up slightly from last year. Uh again, our calls for service, 63 of those calls are EMS calls, six alarm calls, uh three fire related calls, four good intent calls, and then seven hazardous type calls, gas uh leak, gas bill, wire down, etc. >> [clears throat] >> And then the next section of the report broken down where the calls have occurred uh by the areas that we cover and 31 of the calls in Independence, 46 in Maple Plane, two of them in the Three Rivers Park District and four calls uh we gave mutual aid to another department. The next area on the report just talks a little bit about what we did for training in the third quarter. And uh we did um kind of a uh mixture of different training through uh the third quarter with uh working with our confined space rescue ropes and harness systems. We've done some work with radio communications and also uh did some airpack uh confidence training. Uh we had a vendor come in and give us a three-hour classroom and hands-on course covering electric vehicles and how to handle fires involving electric vehicles. Um recently we purchased some specialty vehicle uh specialty equipment to help us to work around electric vehicles. Uh we purchased a um fire blanket so that if we come across an electric vehicle that's on fire, it's something that would help us to put over the vehicle to control and contain the fire. Uh and so we were able to get some training with that fire blanket with this company that came out uh and worked with us. Uh a equipment update. Uh we finally received our long-awaited uh replacement Tahoe truck. Uh the purchase of the Tahoe that we have now from the Minnitankka Fire Department was completed and that was put into service and the old Tahoe has been decommissioned and ready to go to auction. So um that's uh the equipment update uh personnel. At the end of July uh we got approval to hire uh two new people. We had two applicants and we brought those uh two people in through our hiring process and put them onto the fire department. Um unfortunately recently one of them uh has turned in his resignation deciding that he just didn't have the time and understand the commitment that um it took to be on the fire department and it just wasn't right time in his life for that and so he's recently put in his resignation. Um brief update regarding our uh consolidation works with West Suburban Fire District. And uh through the third quarter, we continued to uh work towards our finalization date of December 31st having a transition team meetings with um the West Suburban Fire District. And on August 21st, the cities of Maple Plane and Independence had a joint council meeting where separately the cities both passed resolutions confirming their intent to proceed with the consolidation. the Maple Plane and West Suburban Fire District and uh we still are continuing on that and um are on a great path continuing towards that consolidation and that finalization date. So excited for that. In the uh rest of the report, I've listed some calls of interest that we've responded to. Um, we responded to a house fire in the 2200 block of County Road 92 in Independence, which luckily not much damage and nobody was injured. Uh, we also responded to a call for mutual aid to the Mound Fire Department at the Presbyterian Homes in Spring Park where uh, a couple of people were injured in an apartment fire there, but it was quickly extinguished. Uh we responded to Baker Park Beach for reported of a drowning and when our crews arrived there uh we assisted with CPR of a juvenile male that was there for part of a summer school program. Uh the child was transported to the hospital but unfortunately died from the incident. Um in the 1 of August we respond to a vehicle crash involving a motorcycle on Sycamore Trail. Um, we also responded to assist uh the West Suburban Fire District with a house fire on uh the 4,100 block of Wild Meadows. And then uh the 5600 block of Drake Drive, we responded to a resident that had collapsed in her garden and uh unfortunately after uh several minutes of CPR, we were unable to revive that person. >> [clears throat] >> Uh last thing that I put into my report was just some of the things that we've done this quarter where we've done uh for community events, something outside of responding to the calls, which again is uh uh such a uh great thing for us to do, not responding to calls, but it's the fun things in the community participation, I think, and things like going to the Delano Fourth of July parade. We assisted the West Suburban Fire District uh with the Hamill Rodeo. Uh we assisted with the uh Long Lake 5K run, the tour to Tonka, Pol Classic, uh Night to Unite. Uh we had a birthday party at the fire station uh for um um resident with their child. uh the Orno [clears throat] Discovery Center vehicle fair and also the Orno homecoming parade and oh and the Battle of the Badges. We were there too. So, [clears throat] [laughter] but Matt said that we know how that turned out. So, that's all I have for my report with this. I would stand for any questions. >> Questions for Chief Dennis. I don't have a question, but I want to say thank you for being proactive, especially when you come across a hard call getting that support for the firefighters when they need it. >> Thank you. >> For sure. Thank you. >> Um, I just like to comment, it's been fun at almost all these community events. It's been fun to see Maple Plane and West Suburban together and just excited um for that partnership and to see the relationships already forming and um yeah, it's just there's a lot going on and appreciate all that you and um your staff do. >> Thank you. I'm >> sorry that you lost the softball game. >> So close. [laughter] >> All right, with that we will move on. Oh, next will be Chief D. Rose from West Henipin public safety with his >> great segue. Thank you, honorable mayor and members of the council. Included in your packet tonight is the West Henipin public safety uh September activity report. Um included in that is a number of narratives and summaries of calls. I I would like to call your attention to some of the statistical reporting that's included in the report. Um as you can see we've uh responded to about 1300 incidents in the city of Maple Plane this year to date uh compared to 920 last year. So about a 42% increase. Uh that's not my opinion that's not anything to be concerned about. That's a big jump. But if you look closer at the numbers uh 250 of those incidents are an increase in traffic stops in the city. And so we've got a couple of very eager traffic enforcers and educators which I am proud and honored to work with. That's a passion of mine as well. Um working through, you know, the the issues of of traffic safety in the communities already. Um but also dealing with some specific complaints throughout the summer of speed and stop sign enforcement as well. Um the crimes are relatively um on par and then we're also we saw uh an increase in medicals during this time period as well. So things that are very manageable for our staff. Um and they'll stay dedicated to that traffic safety and and education. Uh we were uh participated in a number of the events that fire did as well. A couple to add would be Art in the Park. This was my first experience with Art in the Park and I'm told that it was probably the biggest crowd that they've had. It was a wonderful event, well attended, uh beautiful weather, just another great community event to get out and and get to know people. Uh the Discovery Center vehicle fair was held here even in the rain and the sprinkles, but still managed to um have smiles on faces and hand out stickers and engage that way. Um the Highway 12 coalition is back in full swing and so I'm getting to know um that group and the the hard work that's being done there. We have managed to survive, knock on wood, audit season with three audits uh that have happened with West Henipin. uh Chief Kra left and said good luck by the way uh knowing that all these were coming. So uh the good news is the great news is that uh he set uh set me up for success uh with the work that he did. So there was uh certainly no sweating making our way through that and we certainly learned a lot going through that process. Uh but one of the things I'm most excited about that's not included in the packet is last week our new officer Mason Spikeel started with West Henipin. Uh he shows up to work every morning with a big smile on his face and he leaves work every day, says good night, we'll see you tomorrow. And he's got that big same smile on his face, which I love. He'll spend a couple of weeks in the office um working on some office and and classroom type um training. And then we'll get him out on the car here, I believe, at the end of next week or the early the following week where he'll spend the next three to four months uh learning from our field training officers and others as he gets um integrated into the department into the community. We're excited to have him. He's going to be a great addition to the team. Um and I can't wait for you all to meet him if you haven't already and just get to see him around town. He's a fantastic human being and I hope he's got a he has a long and prosperous career at West Henipin ahead of him. So, uh, with that being said, I'm happy to take any questions that you may have and address anything specifically in the report or outside of the report that you may have. >> Francis, >> I just want to say that West Henipin, I'm very grateful for your officers. Um, I had an incident about almost three weeks ago and uh, Officer Zillis was amazing. you managed to keep me calm even though I was freaking out in pain and um it was just it was a relief to see a friendly face. So I thank you for all that your officers do for our community and for all of our residents. >> Glad to hear that. Thank you. >> And again, it's been uh fun seeing you and all of your staff out and about. I think one thing you didn't hit on that the drug task force has been doing amazing work. So kudos to them as well and we're proud to have um staff a part of that organization and partnership and uh congratulations to you and your staff for winning the battle of the badges and we love all of our hometown heroes and look forward to a rematch next year on the third Monday. So all right, thank you chief. >> Thank you. >> All right, next we'll hear from engineering and I'm not sure who to turn it over to. We got two of you. So you guys, >> yeah, we're lucky and you're lucky to be surrounded by all kinds of engineers tonight. >> Um, and I I'll take the lead on this, uh, uh, report. Uh, but Matt's here to to help answer questions if you have anything specific. Um, as you know, a lot going on in the city right now. U, much of which involves Bolton Mink and, uh, our partnership with you. A couple things to highlight here. Uh, one of the things that we always have ongoing is just infrastructure planning. uh talking about uh things that maybe need immediate attention, but also look into the future just to make sure we're staying proactive and uh taking care of water, sewer, streets, the things that residents and uh business owners rely on every day. Uh we've also spent time then looking at uh and evaluating various funding sources for those projects as we uh look to get those things done. um how we how we're going to ultimately fund them, whether it's uh with funds that the city normally works with or looking outside of the city for potential grants and other funding opportunities. Um we've had some correspondence related to the MS4 program. I believe you talked about that in your workshop tonight where the criteria uh for that program has changed. So there may be an opportunity for the city uh if so choose to opt out of that program. Uh also a lot of work uh going on with the water use study for the city of Madina. Uh believe we just got a draft of that out here today. Um so that uh work is uh getting towards its conclusion. Uh we've confirmed with the city of or the department of health uh that we're going to continue with the lead service line evaluation and replacements uh moving into 2026 and then also spent time with the Midco permit oversight for the new fiber installations uh which includes some damage that's been done to some infrastructure around town as that's gone in as well. Uh downtown redevelopment, a lot going on with that. Um we uh have uh been working with city staff on the LRIP grant application that you approved here I believe at the last meeting. Uh so work is starting with that working uh with staff to talk about how to engage Henipin County. Also looking to secure other letters of support from uh other parties u and local stakeholders uh to keep that uh moving along and hopefully ultimately lead to a successful application. And then we've also been working uh with city planner also on just scope of that project uh specifically Main Street, Maple Point uh and I'm sorry, Maple Avenue as to the configurations. So those streets, how they're going to fit with the new development uh and then laying out a process because some of those uh some of the costs of that project will be assessed, working through the 429 process and making sure that everything's in place to move forward with that. And then uh lastly, the the street reconstruction project, the the 2024 project. Um as was noted uh with your um payments tonight, uh the infiltration basin work has been completed now. Um and as you can tell that uh some restoration has been done out there, but we are holding some money back. Anticipating in the spring will be some cleanup work from a turf restoration standpoint. Um but uh hopefully that's going to address some of the issues we're having uh with that area staying wet. With that, uh we'd be happy to answer any questions that you have. >> Questions for the engineers? >> I have one. Um just wondering where we're at with the lead service lines. How many homes still need to be checked? Um >> answer that question. >> Thank you. I I think there are about a hundred homes that were not respond responsive still. So this round we did a couple mailers and we we did door knocking towards the end and yeah only 10% of the the people that hadn't responded the first round were able to get through were participating in this round yet. So they're we're hearing that there's going to be a third phase of investigation which may be more of where the city can control what they're doing. We don't necessarily have to get into the houses yet, but I'll share more of that next year when we have more details on it. >> Okay. I appreciate that, Matt. And if there's anything we can do to be proactive, I know some residents have reached out. Hey, is this legit? What's going on? Do I need to let these people in? What is this? Can I drink my water? I mean, it just it runs the gamut. >> Okay. >> So, if if we can just be in communication with staff and anything we can do with the leaflet, the newsletter, just communication to help in the process would be appreciated. >> Yeah. I think that would be a good idea. I think we can certainly provide you some educational materials that you can get out in various ways just to let people know what's going on with that. >> That would be great. I'd appreciate that. All right. Thank you. Thank you for um your continued work. All right. Next, we will hear from public works Dave Medina. >> Honorable mayor, council, staff, all first responders, nice to meet you guys. Well, last time we met, I was fresh off the hatchery, wasn't I? Well, I'm the guys burning all the money. [laughter] We've been busy. We've been doing a lot of work with destroying your town and slowly fixing it back together. Um, we took away your salamander pond over here and made it drain. Now, [laughter] um, we fixed, um, uh, popular and willow. Have you guys ever taken a gander over there? It flows now. We don't have a lagoon no more. Uh we've been busy with uh Midco everywhere, destroying everything, but we're getting there. I mean, we've had over 250 locates that we've had to do. I think we've located everything in this town now. Everything's either painted or flagged. I'm sure everybody hates the flags. Um as far as everything else, I mean, we passed all our MDH reportings. We have all our water quality parameters good. All our fluoride and uh back TE's have passed. We got good drinking water now. Everything knock on wood. No pun intended, right? Um everything looks good. As for our backup power, our left, all our generators have been serviced, inspected through uh interstate power. All our backflow preventers by Yale Mechanicals and our lift stations have been vac cleaned and serviced this year by Quality Flow. So, we're good hopefully going into winter with no problem. Um, as for everything else, let's see. We have uh a couple big problems we have to deal with over on Oak Street and County. We still have to digest that one. That's going to be a good headache. and um all the repairs that we've done. I mean, it's it's getting there. Someone's going to pay for it. Um we have fixed several hydrants in your town. So, the one in Clayton is fixed. It's been out of service for a while on the culdeac. That was repaired with me and uh Minnesota water, we rehab it and put it all back together. You had another one on Drake that was leaking in the substructure. found out it was the rubber puck that sits on the very bottom of the flute there. But that one's operational now. So, let's just hope we need them when we need him. Right, boys? [laughter] Um, as far as everything else, I mean, you see my white truck running around with the yellow light all the time. I'm always here, always answer my phone. Any questions? >> Any questions? Any questions for public works? Well, thank you. And I know this weekend, I believe you got called in at 3:00 in the morning. >> Big mess. >> Yeah, it was a hot mess. So, >> we got through it. >> Yeah. All right. Well, we appreciate you. >> All right. Have a good evening. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> All right. Next, we'll hear from Mr. Cultus, our city planner. >> Thank you, honorable Mayor Councel. U for the month of October. Planning has been doing quite a few things. One of the uh things we've been spending a lot of time on and uh Dave and Matt are here to talk about a little bit more tonight is the downtown redevelopment project. So uh we've been working on moving a uh project forward to the point where they are um uh now going to submit for preliminary plat site plan approval and a planned unit development to develop that property. And so um I saw the application actually today. So, it's should be should be here um tomorrow, I think, actually with all the other things that you need like your money and stuff. So, uh fairly exciting though to have that finally uh coming forward as a real application. It's first time we've gotten this far in the process with a redevelopment project. So, we'll see how that goes. So, uh spending a lot of money or a lot of time on getting that done. Um couple other things that we have um in the works. Uh, as I think a lot of you know, Northshore Gymnastics submitted an application, came forward uh through planning commission to develop a new facility um uh off of Pioneer Creek and the industrial park. They've run into some stuff that they're working through with cost uh implications for the project and they're just trying to kind of u relook at what that is going to do. So, we've had a couple of meetings with them to try to just see if there's anything we can do to help um uh relook at that project to see if they can get it to a point where co costwise they feel comfortable moving forward. Um so, I do anticipate though that to come back around. And then the other uh property that I think most of you know has been for sale for quite some time is the old Wank uh engineering building um off of Highway 12. Uh Jacob and I actually met last week with a potential buyer of that facility and I think um uh based on our meeting based on what they talked about, we should be actually seeing something come forward uh for the redevelopment of that site, keeping the buildings in place, but kind of reimagining the use for that uh building and that property. Um so something to to think about maybe get that property back into circulation as kind of a usable piece. So with that, I'd be happy to answer any questions. Uh talk about any other detail in the report. >> Thank you. >> Next. Sorry. Next, we'll hear from administration and finance and I'll turn it over to Jacobi. >> Uh thank you. I'll start. Madame Mayor, members of the council, um the Hawk signal has finally been fixed. Um, so we're very happy about that. Uh, Kilmer Electric apologizes that it took so long. That's obviously out of their control to get the part, but it's been fixed. Um, we've had a a couple sewer lines and water lines um that Mid Co's contractor has um bored their uh fiber lines through. Those have all been fixed. Um, and then just uh this last week we had a sinkhole on Highway 12 from a manhole. Um, so I'd like to publicly thank uh Valley Rich uh Dave Medina and Mindot for very quick and Matt uh Bowman uh for very quick response and we got that fixed right away. So it was great that everybody could come together so fast to get that done. Um Mark and I have also been looking at the fire service agreement and the lease agreement with West Suburban Fire District. Um that just came back to us. Um see today's Monday, Friday, I believe it was. Um and Mark, myself, and the city attorney uh reviewed some changes that they had submitted to us and we're sending it back uh to them for their second review. Um and uh the only other big thing to note um code red has been used for many years um for emergency alert notifications. Um the city of Maple Plane uh and working with West Henip and public safety is going to a program called Civic Ready. That information is on our website. Uh it was also in the newsletter. Um why the change? uh it costs less money and it has way more bells and whistles. Um weather alerts, notifications. Um it's just all around a great uh great program. Um so if you are getting alerts from Code Red, you are automatically uh signed up for the same alerts with Civic Ready, but I um invite everybody to go to our website and uh subscribe to those alerts. Um the only other big thing is I got married. So um with that I'll stand for any questions. >> Thank you for that update and congratulations. Uh questions for administrator Kander. >> Thank you. >> Great. Thank you mayor and members of the council. Um in your packets tonight you have the third quarter financial report. This report looks at unudited um financial information as of September 30th, 2025. Um looking at page three of that report, um this gives you an overview of the cash and investments comparing the third quarter of 2025 to year end 2024. Um cash and investments are um below that 1231 number by about $814,000. and we'll get into some of the details of that later. Um on the next page, this is a graphical representation of the general fund cash balances. Um this shows two years of actual information or two full years of actual information as well as the nine months of 2025. Um if you look at the trend lines, cash is trending the same as it has the last two years. Flipping forward two pages in this report, we get into the budget to actual information for the general fund. Looking at the general fund, revenues are under the prrated thirdarter budget by about $344,000 and expenditures are over budget by about $163,000. Um looking at those revenues, the majority of um the variances to that rated budget are due to timing of receipt of property taxes and um local government aid and other um state aids that come in. Um there's also been an increase in licenses and permits and charges for services and those are directly related to um the um quick trip and the fees related to permits. Looking at the expenditures, um the items that jump out the most here are in public works. um that department is over budget by about $17,000 and that's due to contracted mowing services and then the organics recycling development. We've also completed all of the um budgeted transfers out for the year as well as completed the um $20,000 transfer that the council approved in July. Moving forward two more pages. This is a detailed um summary of the cash and investment balances by fund. So again, cash and investments is below that December number by about $814,000. And this just breaks out the funds. Um so we touched on the general fund. The main reason for that variance is due to timing of those revenues coming in. looking at the debt service funds. Um those are due to timing of receiving tax settlements as well as timing of those debt service payments. Those debt service payments are um oftentimes in February where we don't get the revenues to u support those payments until July. Um looking at the park improvement fund. Um this variance is due to um those transfers and some donations that were received. The capital project funds. This is due to transfers as well. Those transfers coming from the general fund and the storm water fund. The 20 um sorry the 2024 street reconstruction project. um that cash has dipped down and that's due to um those project expenses and um those offsetting revenues will be adjusted here in the fourth quarter. looking at the enterprise funds, um the water and sewer funds. The main reason for those variances are due to timing of those debt service payments again and we'll touch on some of the operating information in a few minutes. Um looking at the storm water CIP, that variance is due to um bond payments as well. If we go two pages further, this um is a chart showing the details of the cash and investments for the city. So um each of the investments that the city holds we mark to market value each month. And this is just showing that performance over the first nine months of the year. And then the next page um shows more of a graph graphical representation of the um distribution of the cash and investments that the city holds. The next page looks at the fire fund. With this fund, we're again looking at the pr-rated budget for 2025 compared to the actual um revenues and expenditures. Revenues are um just under budget by about $7,000 and expenditures are over budget by about $26,000. Those revenues um are under budget mainly in the intergovernmental area. The fire state aid comes in in October. So we'll see that in the fourth quarter. And then looking at the expenditures, um salaries, um firefighters are paid quarterly in the month following the end of the quarter. So that will um be right sized here in the fourth quarter for those third quarter wages. And then vehicles, um this was the purchase of the Tahoe and some higher volume repairs on vehicles. And then in miscellaneous, we had a pass through para contribution from the fire relief. And then the graph at the bottom of this page compares revenues month by month for the last two years and we're right on trend there. Flipping forward two more pages, we look at the water fund. the water fund. Um we are comparing the September 30th, 2025 revenues and expenses to that same period last year. So September 30th, 2024. Um revenues are over um the amount last year by about $96,000 and expenses are um also above by about $3,600. Um, most notably in the revenue area, um, those charges for services. Um, charges for services are due to connection fees again for that quick trip development. Special assessments, we've been receiving some special assessment um, payments this year. And then there was um a substantial reimbursement for water mane and hydrant repairs in that miscellaneous line. Moving forward two more pages to the sewer fund. The sewer revenues are above the same period in 2024 by almost $214,000 and expenditures are over that same period from 2024 by about $134,000. Most notable items here are in charges for services and special assessments and revenue. Those charges for services are due to um turning off the winter water um averaging calculation for sewer and then additional connection fees for the new constructions. And then in the expenditures are operating and debt service. Um those operating variances are again due to those connection fees. So it's money that we're taking in and then we have fees that we have to pay out for those um wastewater services. And you can see the jump in revenue here in August in the graph at the bottom of this page for those um connection fees. Moving forward two more pages again we look at the storm water fund storm water revenues are over the same period of 2024 by about $6400 and expenses are over by about $22,000. Um revenues are pretty well in line. Um nothing to call out there, but looking at the expenses, um operating is a variance of about $15,000 and that is due to um drainage, repairs and engineering costs related to that. The remaining pages of this report are the detailed financial system um reports with revenues and expenses. So you can see those line item details. Um with that we'll take any questions. Questions? Any questions regarding administration or finance? >> Thank you. All right. With that, I am looking for a motion to receive all of our staff reports this evening. >> I'll make that motion. Moved by Council Member Francis. >> I'll second that motion. Second by council member Berk. Any further discussion or questions? Just want to say thank you to all the staff um for being here and for the um great work. We appreciate you. Right. With that, all in favor, please signify by saying I. >> I. Post. Same sign. The eyes have it. Four to zero. Right. We have no old business to come before us this evening. So, we will move on to new business. First item business this evening is the transition from local board of appeal and equalization. the LBA to the Henipin County open book and I will turn that over to staff. [clears throat] >> Thank you, Madame Mayor and Council members. Um, tonight we'll be considering uh transferring the city's local board of appeal and equalization authority to Henipin County under their open book system. [snorts] Uh currently the Maple Plains City Council acts as the local board of appeals and equalization to give property owners a forum to contest their property's assessed value. The powers of the board uh include um adjusting individual property valuations uh change uh property classifications add omitted uh properties to the assessment roles. While the local board uh fulfills a statutory role, there are some challenges with this model. Uh the training burden uh for extensive annual statemandated training. Uh the board uh requires council members who are not assessors uh to make complex valuation judgments. The open book alternative through the county. Under Minnesota statute, a city may choose to transfer uh its local board appeals and equalization powers to the county. Henipin County offers the open book process which allows residents to meet directly with county assessors to review their property. The benefits to the homeowners or the property owners is accessibility with multiple meeting locations and extended hours, uh direct one-on-one meetings with appraisers, uh immediate correction to property data, uh and a less formal and intimidating environment for public hearings. uh benefits to the city, uh reduced training burden, uh fewer uh confrontational hearings, uh greater efficiency relying on Henipin County's professional assessors. Uh before the county or before the the city council here, uh there's a few different options that we can move forward with. Uh first and foremost uh keep the local board of appeals and equalization in uh Maple Plane which is the current model. Um a second option is offer up a limited transfer of authority to the Henipin County. That's under resolution 20 uh 2025-1027-01. uh which to summarize uh this transfers the power to Henipin County for a minimum of three years. Uh the city could reassess in 2028 uh whether to resume local control uh or continue with the county or the third option is to permanently uh transfer uh of authority. This is under resolution 2025-1027-2 which permanently transfers the power of Landman County. All appeals would then would be managed under the uh county's open book framework. Uh the staff recommendation uh is that based on county support and recent uh city council workshop discussions, staff recommends that the city of Maple Plane permanently transfers to the local board of uh appeal and equalization authority to Henipin County. Uh thank you and I'd be open for any questions that the council may have. >> Thank you, Assistant Administrator Larson. Questions? Uh, Administrator Coander. >> Um, thank you, Madame Mayor, members of the council. Kevin, if you would open exhibit 4 attachment and then go down to the map and blow that sucker up. So the um the cities in blue are open book. The cities in green do their own local board of appeal. The cities of Edina, Maple Grove, Madina, and Minnitanka Beach have also now since this map was created gone to open book. So I I wanted to throw that out there and then answer questions. >> All right. Thank you, Administrator Coander. questions from other council members or staff. Right. I would just like to take a minute and provide a little bit of history because our workshops um are not recorded and um just clarify a few things so people are aware um and in transparency. So the history is um in order for things to get on an agenda um they first need to be brought up by someone. So this was brought up at a workshop by me. Um I brought this up. Um I'm part of a group called the Northwest Henipin Lee municipalities which is 14 um surrounding cities and the mayors we meet and annually every year um Josh the Henipin County Assessor comes in and speaks to our group. Um so I did bring this up at a workshop asked for it to get on an agenda. There was consensus from council and then it was on an agenda. I I cannot recall the exact date but it was at some point this year. So, we did talk about it then after it was posted and on the agenda um at great length and it was agreed that it would come before council and um and as with anything there is not always full agreement um and that's um part of making decisions and the process. So, but before anything is official council is just at the workshop it's discussion discussion only and um business can only happen in a business meeting. So that's why it is here today. Um again and um some of the reasons why I brought this up and advocated for it with the council is um and just want to clarify staff did not initiate um that it did start with me is um financially um we all are already paying taxes into Henipin County. They are the professionals. They're trained. They know how to do this. There's nothing um with your neighbor, your business. It's the professionals that know what they're doing. It's in their lane. It's a service that they provide and that we're already paying for in addition to all the money we're spending on public hearings, the postings um in the newspaper. All of that stuff adds up and there's as you have seen multiple believe um there can be multiple meetings um related to this and uh with regards to local control um I am a huge advocate of local control and it is um something I am very very passionate about and I do not feel like we are giving up any local control in this. I feel like we are actually gaining and that we are giving all of our residents more options. So when um we stay with what we have, you get one chance. You get one chance to show up and it's here. And if you can make it, great. And if you can't, then you've got to work something else out if it works out. If we go to open book last year and or this year in 2025, there were six different meetings. They were as close as Plymouth, mound, and virtual. And they're not show up within three minutes. We call if no one's here, you're done. The virtual one was all day. Most of those are three to four hours. And again, you're working with people who are um professionals. So, I feel like we're actually giving our residents more options, more opportunity. And again, it's a service we are all already paying for in our taxes. So, that's just a little bit of history and why I advocated for it, why um and the process and how it got here. So, this is at least the third time that this group of five. Unfortunately, tonight it is only four um are are hearing it. So hopefully that um helps with some clarification and why I will be voting the way I will be voting this evening. >> Council member Francis, >> can you list off the cities that have since this map was created that have gone to open book? >> Uh yes. Uh, council member Francis Edina Maple Grove Edina Minnetonka Beach Madina or Edina >> both. >> Both. Both. >> Okay. >> Okay. And then followup question. There's we have well three options but two of them. We can go temporarily to open book for three years or we can go permanent open book. What is the advantage disadvantage of doing one versus the other? >> Thank you, council member, for the the question. Uh so the advantage uh to doing like a three-year uh model is that it forces the council to then uh relook at the open book pile uh policy uh and whether or not if the council wants to bring that back in. Um whereas if it's permanently done uh there is no more there's not the review process where it's like uh bookmarks and you have to do it at this point. Uh it's kind of [snorts] we can always bring it back but it's um but you have to go through the it has to be uh approved by the state and then also um approved by resolution. >> So to clarify what you just said then if we do the temporary route we have to do it a minimum of three years. >> Correct. >> Thank you. >> Yeah. Council member Berk. >> And then the process if we did want to reverse this. Um I understand the three years would be the set time frame, but the third option that would actually have to be we'd have to get the state involved to be able to get that corrected. >> Yeah, that's correct. But that >> that would not be any more than communicating with the state. It's >> correct. It's filling out a form. >> It's paperwork. >> Sorry. Sorry. I should have made sure that >> there's no fees or >> Right. It's just the state >> before boards and council member Francis. >> I would like to recommend that we do the three years and revisit it in 2028. Um, >> that's a recommendation. Is that a motion? >> Yes. I would like to make the motion that we choose the option of 3 years of going of having the county do open book. >> All right. There's a motion on the table for approval of the resolution 2025-1027-01 for limited transfer of the local board of appeals and equalization authority to Henipin County. Is there a second? >> I will second that one. >> Second by council member Berk. Is there any further discussion or questions? >> Council member Aizio. >> Um, thank you, Madam Mayor. Uh, I would like I think I must have missed that workshop because I don't recall listening hearing about this before. I guess you did say that, but I feel like this is I need more time to think about this personally and to get some feedback as respect of our our citizens here in Maple Plane. >> Well, I hear and appreciate what you're saying. There's a motion and a second on the table. The packet has been public since Wednesday, >> so we have had time, >> right? I feel like that's not enough time. Honestly, three. Um I still think this is something that's a decision that's not should be taken within a week or six days, five days. I cannot do math right now. But I feel like, you know, that's just still not enough time to really sit down, think about things. And what is the ramifications of doing it? Yes, it's just three years, but is that is that logical amount of you know, is that I I need to see the logic in it. I guess I'm trying to understand more. So yes, but I understand. Thank you. >> Thank you, Council Member Visio. >> Arzo, please. >> Pardon? >> Sorry. >> Any further discussion or [clears throat] questions? Council member Bureick. >> I just want to say what is really making me look at this is availability. the fact that we have our local press and our local publications are getting harder and harder to come across, especially out here, that this allows a more of a time frame that they can actually respond to instead of just one day, one publication here. That's why I'm leaning my way. >> Thank you, Miss Council Member Bureick. Any other disc discussion or questions? Okay, hearing none, I would like to call for a roll call vote. Administrator Kander. >> All right. >> Council member Duca is absent. Council member, >> no. >> Council member Francis, >> yes. Member Back. >> I >> Yes. >> Mayor Moses. >> Yes. >> Motion would pass 3 to two. >> Motion 3 to one with one absent. Motion carries 3 to one with one absent. All right. Next item of business this evening is our firefighter wage increase. And I'm going to turn that over to Administrator Coander first. Thank you, Madame Mayor, members of the council. Uh we discussed um at the last workshop um a wage increase. Sorry, I'm pulling up my notes at the same time that I'm talking. Um the firefighters currently make uh $14.50 per hour. um with the transition to West Suburban Fire District um this last quarter of the year um their firefighters make $16 an hour um so that everybody's on the same and equal pay for this um last year recommendation uh from myself and from the fire chief was to do a $150 increase making that wage uh $16 per hour to match West Suburban Thank you. >> The only thing that I would add in that is uh what I had asked for in the recommendation was to now make it retroactive back to the 1st of October so that it is for this full quarter. >> Thank you for that reminder. >> Thank you. >> Right. Questions for staff regarding this? Um, I think it's a good idea continue to help to make the merger seamless to help with staffing and you're all going to be together. You're now training together every Wednesdays doing the same thing, working with the same leadership. Um, I think it's going to help and I hope it will continue to help to make the merger seamless. So, I am definitely in favor of it. Questions or comments? Council member Francis, I support uh the issue before us to do the pay increase. Um it I do agree that it's important that everyone be at the same rate when they're working together for training and responding to calls will make the transition that much easier. So I fully support it. Council member Bureick, >> I know I've asked this question with the city staff, but I want to make sure the funds are there. Correct. >> Minister, >> uh the increase uh would equate to about $2,500 if we take the same calls as um the previous quarter. >> So, the funds are there and honestly, our first responders They don't do it for the paycheck and I think we do need to support them and I'm for the$150 increase wages because that's a tough job. >> Do you have something? >> No, just trying to get >> Okay, any other discussion or questions? All right, with that then um I am looking for a motion to approve the firefighter wage increase. I'll make that motion >> retroact. Excuse me. >> I will make >> retroactive to October 1st. >> I'll make that motion as stated. >> Thank you. Thank you, Council Member Verack. >> I'll second. >> All right. Move by Council Member Verack. Second by Council Member Francis. Any further discussion or questions? >> Hearing none. All in favor, please signify by saying I. >> I. >> Oppose. Same sign. The eyes have it. Four to zero. Right. Next item of business before us this evening is the 2026 industrial street project fee estimate and I'm not sure if administrator Kander or Matt Okay. >> Yeah, I I'll jump on this one. Thank you. >> Thank you, >> mayor, members of the council. Um >> so back in April we actually met and discussed uh kind of the annually we discussed the capital improvement plan and so that looks about out of about 10 years and so we're we're always trying to keep a long range look on keeping the city up to up to par and functioning well. Um, so there's two we we've split it up into two projects for next year and I'll explain a little bit about why that would be. So first, uh, proposal is for industrial street. So that is scheduled to be a mill and overlay project. So that that is typically not assessed, but there is a section of the roadway um, between Bud Avenue and Popular Avenue that the water man is going to be replaced and upsized. And so that piece could be assessed. And so for for that reason um that that one's going to be separate than the downtown reconstruction project. They're going to move they're going to move at slightly different speeds and and could be different contractors that do the work. Uh so with in that we put together um our estimated costs. So about $16,600 to do the feasibility study engineering work. Um about just under $15,000 to do the topographic survey. And then we've reached out to Hoggo Geote Techchnical Services to do soil borings for that for that project. So um so as far as the engineering piece of it, it'd be about $31,400 Bolton Mink Services there. We would need [clears throat and cough] proposed to have an open house with assessed properties and um and probably a workshop or two with the council as well to get to get through the feasibility study or industrial street. Um, so with that, I'll take questions on the first one and then we can talk more about the downtown reconstruction. >> Questions for Matt regarding the 2026 um, industrial street feasibility study services. >> All right, with that then looking for a motion to approve the 2026 Industrial Street Improvements Fasibility Study Service. >> I'll make that motion. Motion by council member Francis. >> I'll second that motion. >> Second by council member. Any discussion or questions? Hearing none. All in favor, please signify by saying I. >> I. >> Opposed. Same sign. >> Eyes have it. Four to zero. Right. Uh, next item of business is the 2026 downtown redevelopment project. >> Yeah. So, um, thank you, mayor, members of the council. Um, so the next one here is the the redevelopment project. We I I think we might actually call it the reconstruction project. It' be a little bit confusing with what Mark's working on with the with the housing project that's that's coming forward that was just submitted, I believe. Um, so anyway, so the downtown project proposes to reconstruct Main Street East as the main piece of it, but then a bunch of the streets that u run north south. Popppler Avenue, Spring Avenue, Marsh Avenue, Delano Avenue, and Maple Avenue. And then related to that, we've looked at reconstructing the fire station parking lot. And a big chunk of that project will also be storm water management. So we would be looking into the kind of the public works fire station property over there to to do some of the storm water treatment required for the project and the the downtown uh development. So, we put together a a fee estimate again assuming that this project would be assessed and we require a feasibility study. We'd have an open house and workshops with the council. We estimate approximately 240 hours of staff time uh at a cost of 44 a little over $44,000 for that piece. We'd like to get going on the topographic survey and soil borings. Um, so about 180 hours of staff time and $33,000 to do that piece and then how go geotechnical would do the soil borings again to confirm so we can fine-tune the the design of the roadway and any um lacking on the word here any uh adjustments that are needed to the to the road base there. Um that would be a separate piece to that. U and so probably the best way to see all this is the capital improvement plan map. Kevin, if you can go to the very end that one and then and then we did talk, I believe at the last city council meeting about the local road improvement plan grant that we are applying for. So, that's another piece of this that we're um work that work through with the getting county approval or county support, which they sound like they're on board for that, and then um getting in getting submitted for the grant application and hopefully successful outcome of that that we would find out about in March. That's it for me. If you have any questions, >> questions for Matt And I'm assuming we're going to want to approve both of these since they're two separate. >> Well, that's true. Okay. So, I think we're good. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, there's two colors on the the map. Um, that was meant to just kind of show the delineation between the LI piece and the city this 100% city funded pieces. >> Perfect. So the uh Spring Marsh and Delano, we would not be submitting any LRIP application for those pieces of the street project. >> But one project from >> but one one for construction standpoint and then some >> this is going to go with a little bit slower pace just because we have to do the LI submitt and then it'll have a little bit more state oversight as far as review process. So that's why we split off the industrial street pre piece from this as well. >> Okay. Thank you for that clarification. Right. Great. All right. And our next item of business this evening, Administrator Colander. >> Thank you, Madame Mayor, members of the council. If uh someone would be able to make a motion authorizing Bolton, Mink to proceed with the feasibility study and related survey work for specifically the 2026 uh downtown project. That would be appreciated. >> I'll make that motion exactly what he said so we can find out what kind of dirt we have. >> Uh moved by Council Member Berak. >> Second. >> Second by Council Member Francis. Any further discussion or question? All right, hearing none. All in favor, please signify by saying I. >> I. >> Post. Same sign. All right. The eyes have it four to zero. Right. Next, we will move on to council reports and other business. Who would like to kick us off? Council member Francis. All right. Council reports. Uh I attended workshops, EDA, and a a rebranding uh meeting this month. I want to say thank you to my fellow council members that have taken on extra tasks uh while I deal with some health issues. It's greatly appreciated and not have my plate quite so full so I can focus on my therapies and get back to baseline health. Um, so it's been a good month except for my little trip to the hospital. Um, thanks again to to whips for rescuing me. Um, and that's about it for me. >> Thank you, Council Member Francis. Council member Bureick. Well, I you know, we have had workshops and meetings and fire commission with the consolidation, but one of the things that Connie mentioned, I have stepped into the Rotary Club, uh, Orno Rotary. That was a great experience. Um, just want to say last Saturday, we pick trash on Highway 12. I'm going to say this to anybody, go out and pick trash on the side of the road. It gives you a new understanding of what it takes to have a clean highway, what it takes to do things, and how we each individuals can make a difference. >> Thank you. >> Um, let's see. Chamber of Commerce was fun. We got to learn about the in uh invention or discovery of Duke Cannon, the uh the it's a soap, I think. like shampoo and soap shave more for men. Anyway, very interesting story, very fun. And then of course, Chamber of Commerce had their trunk or treat this weekend in front of M um sorry, the St. MC area, sorry, Iron Exchange in where the new quick trip will be and that was well attended even though the weather was kind of iffy. Um, as far as wershed goes, it was a light lighter meeting to discuss about some new up andcoming grants that we're going to try to apply for and rolling out a new website design so that our wershed partner Sarah Creek will look the similar to other wersheds in the in the areas and uh basically our um I don't want to say rent. I don't know how you explain you the websites will no longer be supported as is. So everything broke breaks and you know we're kind of stuck. So erggo we had to look for a new web host person and so we're going to try to make sure that our wershed site is similar to other wersheds and so it's easier for people to navigate. So uh other than that that's all that's thank you. Um, one of the things we were able to do as being part of the Rotary is we served down at the Prior Lakefront Music Festival and we were able to go to the celebration. Um, they raised over $116,000 and donated that back to all of the volunteer groups. So, various nonprofits. So, the Orno Rotary um was a recipient of about $1,300 from serving down there. And then that money will go to the Orno schools in particular, Strive, and to veterans programming. So just again another wonderful partnership you know between the city, the school, the Rotary and just being part of something greater than ourselves. Um I know Chief D. Rose hit on this a little bit but Art in the Park again just a fabulous event. They estimated they had over 700 in attendance this year and that is a partnership with Orno Community Education in the city of Maple Plains. So it's great to get people in the city and in our parks and using those facilities. Some of the Rotary speakers this month included Hope Chest for breast cancer, um a pro hockey player, and then also we did some service work over on the Saga Hill Park. So go over and check out the walking path. We um built the ramps in there and we're working on that. So um some nice improvements. Was able to attend the Minnesota Mayor's Association fall meetup. Um it was at the arboretum which was absolutely beautiful and our speaker was from the state of Minnesota and um it was on deescalation strategies. So that was very informative and helpful. Was able to attend the weekend open house which is um serves our residents here in Maple Plane. So grateful for that relationship as well. Was able to attend the Orno Coalition which we celebrated our second year and uh really working on the 988 and the raise awareness for suicide and crisis lifeline. And you'll find those signs in our parks and in our schools and just a great resource um for anyone young or old. You can um text at any time and that will be answered. 988. Uh the fire department openhouse was great. It's always fun to watch the kids and just um be so excited and uh interact with the firefighters. Northwest Henipin League municipalities. This month, Sheriff Wit came out and um shared about partnerships within the county and and in our cities and how we can work together and um and partnerships. So that was very informative. the LMC board meeting and the 4M board of trustees meeting really just working on budgets and legislative policies. So that's really exciting right now and we're working on some of those in particular one fire related. We've been busy with workshops. EDA um was super busy. Orno Healthy Youth um the chamber as was alluded to uh Ryan Okonnell came from Duke Cannon and just it was built brick brick by brick brick right here in um Weisetta and they are huge supporters of veterans and first responders. So that was really cool. Um personnel committee meeting working on the code of conduct to time cards. fire commission obviously has been consumed with the consolidation and really we're just kind of waiting I think on legal um and being available and ready rebranding. We're getting ready to move forward um in that uh the truck and treat event. Want to thank all of the businesses and the fire department and police department. We had 11 trunks and over 15 baskets. So, uh great event. A little cold, a little wet, but uh we're hearty motans and people showed up. So, that was great. And then also want to invite everyone on November 11th. Again, this is in partnership with the Orno High School and the Orno Rotary to the Community Veterans Day program. Uh the doors will open to the general public at 8:30 and then the program will start at 8:45. The choir will be part of it. Um we have a veteran speaking and it's always a very moving service and a great way to honor our veterans. So, lots going on in our little city. So, thank you for everyone for the uh role that you all play in it. Any other business to come before us this evening? Hearing none. Looking for a motion to adjurnn. >> So moved. >> Moved by Francis. >> Second. >> Second by bureock. All in favor? >> I post same sign. The meeting's adjourned at 8:20.