Good evening and welcome to the Maple Plains City Council business meeting. It is Monday, August 25th at 7 p.m. and I call the meeting to order. Please stand for the pledge of allegiance. Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Maybe. Good evening and welcome. I am looking for a motion to adopt this evening's agenda. >> So moved. >> Moved by Duca. >> Second. >> Second by Bureick. Any further discussion? All in favor signify by saying I. I >> oppose. Same sign. Motion carries five to zero. Um do we have any visitors to be heard this evening, Administrator Gander? >> Okay. No visitors to be heard. Um next I do not see Representative Robbins. So we will move on to item six, the consent agenda. The consent agenda this evening includes city council workshop meeting minutes from July 28th, city council business meeting minutes from July 28th, city council special workshop meeting minutes from July 31st to August 11th, city council workshop meeting minutes, and the St. Bonafacious Miniaturista Area All Lions Club gambling license. Looking for a motion to approve this evening's consent agenda. >> I'll make that motion. Motion by Francis. Looking for a second. >> Second. >> Second by council member Duca. Are there any further discussion or questions regarding the consent agenda this evening? Hearing none. All in favor of approving the consent agenda, please signify by saying I. >> I. >> I. >> Same sign. The eyes have it. Five to zero. >> Next item of business this evening is accounts payable. And I will turn that over to administrator. >> Thank you, Madam Mayor. Members of the council, our uh city checks uh for the month of August total $245,837.99. There was a one question on those um for actually if it's for the AC payments. So, I'll just go there first. AC trans payments were $12,3846. One question on the credit card bill was donuts for the quick trip groundbreaking. Um, it was just miscoded. It was actually for cookies for council, the last one that we had, not for the donuts. Those were supplied by Quaker. >> I was glad to hear that. >> And then the street project uh total is $9,794.50. So grand total of $268016.98. >> Right. Thank you, Administrator Coander. Um, before I look for a motion to accept all those, does anyone have any questions for staff regarding either the city bills, a bills, or the 2024 street project bills? Hearing none. All in favor of the appending accounts payable, including city bills, AC bills, 2024 street project bills, please signify by saying I. >> I post same sign. Meeting P motion passes 5 to zero. Next item of business before us this evening is our staff reports. We're grateful for all of our staff and the work they do. Last month they were here in person as they come quarterly. Um this month all reports have been received and are in the packet. Um administrator Kander, do you have anything you'd like to say regarding administration and finance? >> Thank you, Madame Mayor. Members of the council, just a couple things I wanted to point out. Uh we do keep getting questions about the Hawk pedestrian signal. that part is still ordered and we are somewhat impatiently waiting for it. Um if anybody noticed they did go out and put some additional um pedestrian crossing signs um a sign on the the button sign that says it isn't working. It's out of order. Proceed with caution. So hopefully that has helped a little bit. Um, and then one other thing to note too, just to give everybody a heads up, the state water testing fee from the Department of Health will be increasing um from $2.45 to $3.81 per quarter. Uh, everyone will start to notice that bill on uh 2026 first quarter bill that they get in April next year. That's all I had. And just to be just a point of clarification on that administrator coander is that money will not be going to the city. >> Correct. That money goes to the department of health >> and it is a quarterly increase. So just want people to be aware. Okay. With that um does any council members have questions for staff during the administration report? With that I'm looking for a motion to receive all staff reports as submitted. >> I'll make that motion. Motion by council member Francis. >> I'll second that motion. >> Second by council member Bureick. Any further discussion or questions? Hearing none. All in favor, please signify by saying I. >> I. >> Oppose. Same sign. Okay. The eyes have it. 5 to zero. Um, we have no old business to come before us this evening. We do have some new business. We will start with beginning uh with a hearing for the dispute of a nuisance violation at 1764 Howard Avenue. And I'm going to turn that over um to assistant city administrator uh Mr. Larson. >> Thank you uh Madame Mayor and honorable uh council members. Um tonight uh Mr. Uh Gerald Esnoff um is here to discuss his property uh regarding a pollinator garden um or a possible pollinator garden in his uh front yard. Uh some of the background for today. Um on July 2nd, staff cited uh Mr. Esnoff uh with the nuisance violation at his home at 1764 Howard Avenue for tall vegetation and noxious weeds. A follow-up inspection was uh did take place on July 14th confirmed the property uh remained out of compliance. Uh on July 18th, a notice was issued um advising that abatement could occur if corrective action was not taken. Uh Mr. Asaf uh who is here um requested a hearing before city council uh asserting that the vegetation qualifies as a pollinator garden and should be exempt uh from state and city code um which allow for managed natural landscapes and planned intentional uh that that is planned, intentional and maintained. Uh tonight's uh hearing um is providing the platform uh for a hearing for Mr. Esnoff uh where he can plead his case that his property qualifies as a pollinator garden. Um to this point, uh SAF's findings, um inspections showed that the vegetation was not maintained or intentional in appearance and included tall grasses uh and weeds. While some uh non-noxxious plants like daisies um were present, staff determined the yard did not meet the criteria of a managed national landscape. Um, and with that, uh, the council tonight, uh, the council is asked to decide whether to recognize the property as a pollinator garden and allow it to remain, uh, or to enforce abatement under city code, which costs accessible to the property if corrective action is not taken. That >> Thank you, Mr. Larson for that synopsis. Mr. Asnoff, please come to the podium and introduce yourself and speak. >> Okay, you can pull out the table. There we go. Mr. Larson, you can pull out the podium side, too, to give it more room. [Music] >> Oh, thank you. You're welcome. >> Let's Thank you, Madame Mayor, for hearing my point of view. I have a presentation that should only take around five minutes at this time. If it's okay with you, I would like to offer documentation with each point I have to make. For 10 years, upon approval from my neighbors, I started beekeeping in the city of Maple Plane. And that's a proof my honey had a very good crop this year. I also at that time needed to do some landscaping in my front yard. So the landscaper laid dark growing dirt for planting. I decided to instead of replanting grass to purchase an assortment of pollinator plants with the intention of having my yard a full arrangement of pollinator plants to help support bees and other pollinators. I did not have a yard of grass that I just left unattended to return to its natural state. I spent money for this project. By conversing with the city of M uh Maple Plane through the years and receiving approval from the city of Maple Plane, I managed the growing season by first mowing my whole yard in the spring to allow dandelions, which are the first vital pollinator plant that bees need to begin the year. And this is a picture of what that might look like. Would you would I give it to you or >> you can give it to Mr. Larson, please? >> So that's what the beginning of the year looks like. Um yeah and I believe that uh there does not violate the toxic weed uh ordinance of uh you know 6-28 or the state statute 412925. Well, after the dandelions have provided bee support, I mow them down to allow the various mid-spring summer pollinator plants to come up. Before these pollinator plants begin to bloom, they do not appear like flowering plants. That is the picture that assists assistant Kevin Larrison took of my yard and then sent me sent it to me with a notice about the overgrown toxic weed ordinance. And I think you have that picture or >> are you referencing that? Yeah, right there. >> Yes, we do. >> Let's see where was I. Uh, as I have said, I planned and maintained pollinated plants in my yard for 10 years. You cannot predict how pollinated plants will show up each year. So, I allow them to first bloom. And areas where there is little growth, I maintain my yard by mowing those areas down. And these are examples. This was a very good year. The first picture And these are present year photos. So at the end of the year, I mow everything down so the seeds will regrow the next year. Now, Mr. Uh Larson sent a picture of my yard along with a noxious weed nuisance violation notice, not knowing that my pollinator plants had not bloomed yet. When he sent me the notice, I called him and talked with him about coming over to show me what he was talking about. He chose not to do that, but rather send me a final notice with the same picture, not a new picture, um, of my yard. And now that it's beginning to be fall, these are pictures of my current yard. I wish I had that one. Oh, anyways, you should do >> that's who you are today. >> Yeah. Yeah, as you can see. Um, let's see. Um, yeah, as as you can see, I still have some pollinator plants, white clover, oneeyed susans, uh, chory, milkweed, etc. that have not gone to seed. when they do go to seed, I will mow them down. So, finally, I have been a good citizen of Maple Plane for 40 years. I have not gotten any complaints from my neighbors about my pollinator plants all that time. My neighbors support me and my beekeeping and my pollinator plants. I am able to share my honey crop with my neighbors and with you if you'd like to keep that. Um, I believe my planning and my intention and how I maintain my yard is a positive to the bee community and in line with the city. And I don't see anything in the uh in the code uh code 2 uh 628 about a garden. You refer to having a pollinator garden. There's nothing that says you have to have a garden. At least as far as I know. And I'm just going by what the what the city's code says precisely. And so I would contend that as long as I keep weeds under 6 in, as long as they're not toxic, my pollinator plants should be allowed to grow. And that's my that's it. >> Thank you, Mr. Rno. Council have questions. Mr. Esnau or Mr. Larson. >> Council member Duca. >> Kevin, is there in the middle of the property in in the tall area, is there some debris or things in the middle of that? >> Thank you, Council Member uh Duca. [Music] Yeah, it it appears that there is some debris behind uh that those bushes or the whatever is in the back. I can't actually tell what's in the back, but it does appear like there is some >> Can I respond to that? >> Sure. >> Uh that's not debris. That's logs. I I have three logs, big logs. I cut down the tree and decided to have those as ornaments. I also have a uh uh antique uh big wheel sharpener >> thing. And then the tall vegetation. Maybe I maybe you could see. Well, yeah, you can see a little better here. That's that's more pollinated just taller. >> And why do you allow the plants to grow out into the street? >> Uh well, they're overlapping into the streets. The ones you see right there, those are white clover. And so again, is that what you're referring to, sir? >> One of the pieces. Yes. Yes. Well, well, that's white clover that I didn't know there was an ordinance about keeping. It's not in the street. It's on the curb. Is there somewhere else you'd like to point out >> that that Why are you allowing that to grow on the cement? Well, I would certainly cut that if that's a I wasn't aware that allowing a a plant that's a pollinator to drift over onto a curb. Is that what you're saying again, sir? >> Mhm. >> Yeah. I I'd be happy to trim that. I will be cutting all that down in probably about three weeks. And what is the other one you referring to? You were you said there's a couple areas. >> Excuse me. I mean, would you say this is in compliance, sir? >> No. >> In what way is it not in comp? >> I'm not going to debate that with you. I'll ask >> Well, you have to debate it with me because I'm here to talk about this. >> I'll ask you the questions. Why are you allowing your plants to crawl out onto the street? >> All right, I will cut those because I wasn't aware that I guess I wasn't even aware they were doing that. >> When did you mow the the the grass? >> This. >> Yes. probably two days ago. >> Interesting timing to this meeting. >> Well, and what are you insinuating, sir? >> That you've left that in an unmanageable area. >> No, it wasn't. It was all mowed down. And would you look at the pictures? Would you say those are not qualified? You know, the pictures, they're right there. Can you look at them and tell me what's wrong with them? The state statute as I understand it >> has three criteria to it that need to be addressed. One is that it is a planned and what makes you think I didn't plan it 10 years ago. >> Number two, it is an intentional design and I believe our website has some >> that isn't a law though. That's suggestions, sir. That's suggestions. That's not a law. >> Member Duke is speaking. When he's done, you will speak. Okay. Thank you. I gave you the courtesy when you were speaking. All right. I will. One person speaks at a time in this room. >> All right, sir. Ma'am. >> So, >> thank you. >> A a pollinator garden to qualify must be >> where does it I'm sorry. Garden. There is there's no word garden in the in the in the codes in the statues. There's no word garden in those. Show me where it says garden. >> Mayor, I yield my time at this point. I'm not going to argue with him. >> I clearly can't carry on a conversation. >> Well, sir, I will promise not to speak anymore if you have more to say. I'll back up. My understanding from the state statute is in order for this qualification to occur that number one it must be planned. I don't see where your plan is. Number two needs to be very intentional. I can't imagine this vision is intentional in any way and number three it needs to be maintained. There is debris in the middle or something in the middle of that. And I don't understand how the debris in the middle contributes to a planned, intentional, and maintained area. I don't see why these leaves, these you left patches of weeds um that are spilling over into the curb and into the public right away and and streets. Uh I just don't understand your perspective. Well, my perspective is that that's not debris, which I I I stated, and that those are uh those are uh pollinator plants that are going over, but I'm saying I would be happy to cut those if that's part of the code to do that. And again, I want to specify what does it say in the code. I mean, I have explained that I've managed I've I've made a decision to have this and I manage it by when they the flowers bloom to mow areas where there is none. I'm not some guy who lives in a trailer who's looking to get away with not mowing his grass. >> Council member Avesio, your turn to speak. >> Yes. Thank you, Madam Mayor. Um, hi, sir. Can you tell me what of those plants that you plan are native plants to Minnesota? >> Well, the the oneeyed susans I believe are um I guess I wish I had the names of the milkweed of course. Uh I think those white daisies are not the tall growing ones, but >> can you tell me which daisies they are? >> Are they oxide? Are they sha >> give you a list ma'am? Or maybe they are right here. Thank you. Yes, I'd like to see your list, please. >> Well, no, this is this is a list of and I'm looking for >> Okay. >> Where they would be is a >> I guess my question is when you said you planned this 10 years ago, did you buy a seed packet with all the names of the plants on it or did you buy plugs and plant them? >> Uh, I bought a packet. It was like a I don't know a pound or whatever and spread it around and then through the years it kept changing. If you notice the daisies kind of took over one year but again um everything that I think you see that's growing that's bloomed is a pollinator plant whether it's >> a little bit of background I am a pollinator gardener. >> Okay. >> So I do understand these things. >> Okay. >> So we understand. Do you happen to have that seed packet still that has a list of the plants on it? >> No. >> Okay. Um, so do you believe that the thistle that you have growing in your land be part of that packet? >> The yellow thistle. >> The the which ones? >> The thistle. >> I'm not sure which. Did you say the yellow ones? >> Yes, that's thistle. >> Okay. >> I cannot talk. doing great. >> Um, thistle. >> So, thistles I guess I I'm not an expert. >> Okay. >> So, that would not >> So, I guess my qu the the concern is is that there are plants in there that would be considered invasives. I cannot consider they're noxious because I haven't looked at them all yet, but they're considered invasive and they would probably need to be taken care of if you to be, you know, a good steward of your land. >> If you understand. >> Yes. And I would consider those daisies. You got to check on that whether oxy or shasta because those are one is considered invasive, one's not. I believe the shastas are not. >> Are you able to look at that picture and tell the one with >> No, I'd have to go through and look at it myself, but I understand that when you throw down seed packet, you get one species one year and then the next year things do come in. that that's pretty prevalent and mowing things down. Usually most people wait till one do it one time to mow down their thatch and to remove it. So that's most prairie gardeners would do that way. So that's why I think that's why it was a little confusing. And the third thing is that you really want to avoid anything in the gutters because we are a our all our water all our sewer feeds into the lakes. >> Okay. I believe independence is that correct or it doesn't matter. So anytime you have vegetation inside of that gutters you're promoting and introducing new things into our water systems, our waterways such as lake independence which can lead to algae blooms. It can lead to increase in sediment. It can lead to a lot of these things. So we would ask that I would ask as a fellow gardener that you you know maintain those gutters. just for the sake of our lakes. Okay. >> Sure. >> And our wershed. >> Yes. >> And then I would like encourage you to go back and maybe try to figure out which ones could be considered invasive on your property. >> Yeah. >> And which may or may not be noxious. So I I can't tell, but that one picture looks like you have common tanzy in there, which is a noxious wheat from Minnesota. Okay? And that is not going to help your pollinator garden. Matter of fact, it will detract and from the native bees, which is I'm more concerned about native bees. I understand you're a honey beekeeper, >> but we have endangered species that we are trying to help not be endangered, for lack of better terms. So, I would encourage that you go through and look and see what might be be detracting for what you're trying to promote. I mean, as a lawn deagums grantee and as a ons coach and a native plant coach, I appreciate what you're trying to do, but um put a little more thought into it maybe. >> Certainly, >> that's what I'm trying to say. I have no problem with you having honey bees. Obviously, your neighbors enjoy your product, >> but I think what we're trying to say is can you um go back and reexamine? >> Yeah. Well, I appreciate your input and uh I'd invite you over sometime if you could. >> Uh yeah, like I say, >> I mean with as long as I'm allowed to, I'd be happy to help. >> Y >> that is I'd have to take direction from our city administrator because I don't want to overstep my bounds. >> Sure. Uh yeah, and that's all I'm I guess I'm looking for. I don't know if there needs to be a decision other than I'll be mowing all of that down and next year I would like to attempt to do it more in line with how I might be advised. >> We do need to give direction tonight. Mr. Resno. >> Okay. >> Um, other comments, questions from council. >> Council member Berk, >> I understand the Thank you. I understand the scope of the garden as your property is your front yard. The management of it is mowing it down. Um, even though looking at those pictures, I understand the dandelions and how a lot of people will consider them weeds and but you have a good pollinator garden, but there are areas that you do need to address, >> right? >> And I think it's just taking a better look at what you're planting. One thing I would ask, can we clarify that my yard as long as there's there's correct plants there, it can be that as opposed to like a squared off little rock garden or something that that my whole yard if all those plants on the yard are in code that I should be allowed to grow it that way as opposed to having some plan which again I don't see in any code or any statute. >> Um, assistant assistant administrator Larson first and then council member. >> Thank you, Madam Mayor. Um, to answer your question, uh, just as long as it's planned, intentional, and wellmaintained, you can do really whatever you want with your property. >> Okay. And I would like to add that consider um call it right away here for easement. Oh, there's a space that you need to allow for maintenance from the city on your property called easement or rightway. >> Easement. >> Right away. >> Okay. Sorry, I from different cities and counties. Anyway, so keep that in mind when you do when you are planning this is that right up from the curb up to 10 feet, you need to, you know, leave for the city. That's that's been a statute for >> leave city to do what? >> Any maintenance, any water lines, any electricity, any electrical lines, any cables. Um that is you know any repair like road repair. I mean they I don't >> I'd like like to clarify what would my plants have to do with >> because they're going to get destroyed. The matter of fact point of fact but that's what I say. >> Council member Visio bring that up. I'm gonna turn it over to administrator Kander for clarification from the official. >> Thank you Madame Mayor Council Member Arvisio and council members. Um so 10 feet from the property line back is considered the ma the the city rightway. It is an easement of sorts that the city maintains to do maintenance and things like that. Um you can have the natural um plan intentional and maintain plantings in that right ofway. They cannot impede on the road. So at the moment they hit the curb line that's on the road. >> Okay. >> Sorry, my mistake. >> That's okay. >> So that's at the top of the curb. It can't touch that. Okay. >> Exactly. All right. >> Does that help clarify? >> It does. >> Um I would also like to bring up unfortunately um Mr. note because I can tell that it's a passion of yours and something that you enjoy doing that um in our city section code 4-408 which is speaks to the limitations on the numbers of animals permitted um beekeeping shall not be permitted within the city limits and that is in our city code. So that as well is not supposed to be happening at your house. >> Is it retro? I mean, back when I applied, they basically said, "Oh, I just need to converse with my neighbors, and as long as they're okay, that that would uh that would be fine years ago." >> Council member, >> um, do you have documentation of all this? >> No, >> but I guess you'd have to decide if I'm telling the truth or not. Er, >> that's not administrator Gander. >> Thank you, Madame Mayor, members of the council. Um, and Mr. Enough. >> Esnoff. >> Esoff. Um, so if you can find where the city had allowed that at one point in time, that would be helpful for your case to keep the bees. >> Yeah. >> Otherwise, I have to kill my bees, too. >> Otherwise, well, you wouldn't have allowed, but you could rehome them. Um, >> and I will I will go back to uh the last code that we had was 2015 and the one before that was 1983. And I will check to see what that code says. >> Yeah, because I'm pretty sure I checked the code when I started beekeeping and just to see if Maple Plane and they basically said that that you check with the neighbors that are around you to make sure that they're okay. So, so you say you will check that and then confirm if that's true or not. I can keep the bees. If not, I have to get rid of them. Yep, I will. All right. >> All right. Um, any other discussion or questions from councel comments? I will note that in the packet there was pictures from uh July 23rd as well and Mr. you know, um that does not show a maintained yard. Again, um and there there have been complaints um by other people. We are complaintbased city and this was brought to our attention as well. Um when I look at the pictures and listen to you talk and um this does not feel like it was a planned garden. I mean, you're not even able to tell me what's in there and what's invasive and what you have. It does not seem intentional as it's seems each year and each season it's different and things are changing and moving and it is clearly um has not been maintained in my opinion as reflected in growing on the street and the heights and the thistle and the um weeds that are in there. Um so that is where I am personally standing and how I am feeling. Um is there any further discussion questions? Does anyone have anything else to say before we look for a motion? >> Council member Berk, >> I agree with what you said, Mayor. Um, you know, maintaining it so is off the roadway is a big thing, but we want to know what you have. I mean, we want to know the plants that you got. That's the way to make a your argument for a garden. Right now, what we see is a lot more questionable plants. I understand you have a lot of pollinator plants, but it would be nice to know the actual name so we have something to look up. Thank you, >> Mr. Esnau. Or anyone else have anything to say? >> Council member Francis, >> do you have a sign or anything that says this is a >> pardon that reads we're >> feeding the bees >> more as a off thing. But >> you you do >> No, it's not an official sign. It's just a >> Okay. >> It says, "Pardon the weeds. We're feeding the bees." It's in one of his pictures. >> Okay. >> Cuz because when I see it, I just see weeds. Um when I see a sign that says pollinator garden, then I educate myself as to what there is. And I've seen other pollinator gardens that are organized and you can tell what it is by looking at it. To me, this looks more like it hasn't been mowed and everything's just taken over. With that then um there are two um options we have. We can In favor of Mr. Esnau, in claim of a pollinator garden or we can find in favor of the staff's findings and order the abatement. >> Do we need to close the hearing before we make >> Could I say one more ask one more thing? >> We never opened the hearing, right? Um the the plants in the very back that are tall, you're not asking me to cut those down, are you? Those are obviously pollinators. Wouldn't you say? >> U what I recognize is I recognize Joe Py and I believe can't tell if it's compass or if it's a cup plant from the picture. I still need a closer look at the leaves. Sorry. >> But yes, those are native plants. >> Administrator Colander. >> Thank you, Madam Mayor, members of the council. Um, kind of going through and and hearing Mr. Esoff in in hearing uh council member Arvo's um knowledge on the pollinator gardens the landscape I would my recommendation would still be the same to find find in favor of the staff um and have Mr. dressing off, mow everything now, get it down so that it's not a nuisance. And then I would be very happy as well to work with council member Arviso and you on what does that managed landscape look like. You know, you should know what plants are there. Even if they change over a year, you're responsible to know which ones are there. That's what's intentional and managed. Um, so I just wanted to say that I appreciate the kindness and everyone's willingness to help. Um, council member Arzio especially. I know that's your passion and your training and your offering those services as a volunteer. So, thank you. Administrator Coander, I struggle with you making that offer. We have over 600 homes in this city and if 600 people want to plant a pollinator garden, we don't have enough money or time in the day to pay our administrator to go to everyone's home and be helpful. And I know that's hard because it's in your nature. Um, I'm going to respectfully disagree. Um I'm one of five. So if I'm out of line, please someone um check me. But I think there's a difference between you volunteering and council member Azizio. >> Administrator Coander. >> Thank you, Madame Mayor. I should clarify on that. Um an opportunity for me to learn more about what a managed, planned, and intentional um vegetation would be. Not that I'm going to go out and help everybody plan, but to get together with the first meeting to kind of hear and learn a little bit more for myself, you know, and you know, assistant administrator Larson should probably be in on that conversation so that we learn a little bit more about it. We have another resident that we've been working with. I'd like to get the DNR to come and meet with us just so we can learn more about that because I think it's becoming more and more common. Not saying that I'm going to help people manage and plan their vegetation. >> Okay. I just wanted to clarify because that's what I thought I heard. >> Council member Duca, >> I mean, the issue in front of us tonight is to make a determination of whether the property as it sits right now is in compliance with our city codes and our interpretation of state statute. I go back to the things that Kevin you said at the very beginning. Is it planned? Is it intentional? And is it maintained? So, let's walk through those. Is your property planned? I hear what you're saying about 10 years ago and the seed packet of seeds. I'm not sure that that's planned in the sense that the state statute or our code anticipated. Nevertheless, it's there. The intentionality to it. I look at that like council council person Connie did. It doesn't appear like it's very intentional. Then we get to m maintenance. And I think that's where we've seen more of the discussion tonight around maintenance is just more than leave it for the season and mow it when the little flowers go away. Maintenance is knowing what you have, how you have it, where it is, where it's growing, where it's moving out onto the streets. What are the plants that are there? You have invasive plants in there. You have some noxious weeds. There are some thistles over there. And you have a number of things that have just volunteered. They didn't start in that little packet that you had 10 years ago. They've just come naturally over the last number of years. That's not maintenance. So in the absence of qualifying in all three of those areas, is it planned? Is it intentional? isn't maintained. I have no choice tonight, no choice but to determine that the property as it sits here tonight is not in compliance with our city ordinances or state statute. I have no choice. And as much as I love bees and I love honey, I know bees travel two miles. So, it's not just the neighbor next to you that's impacted by that. It's everything. And we do have a little problem with the fact that the bees aren't a part of our city code. There's a whole another issue. I just don't think I've got any choice tonight but to determine you're not in compliance with those two things. >> Could I ask why it's not in the code or why beekeeping is not allowed anymore? Is there a reason? Mr. >> Thank you, Madame Mayor, members of the council, Mr. IstAnoff. Um, without going back and looking at previous codes, I wouldn't even begin to be able to give you an answer. I mean, things do change over time um in which the the city adopts um ordinances as state laws change and things like that. So, I wouldn't be able to tell you right now on that. I would have to do some research. Would you consider that perhaps having that many cities to allow bees? They they don't hurt anybody >> as I'm as I'm going through and doing my research is something I'll look at. >> I'd encourage you consider that. >> Yeah. And at at this time that's a whole separate issue today where um we need to deal with the pollinator gardens. >> Okay. All right. And Mr. Aquander. >> Thank you, Madame Mayor, members of the council. With that hearing being uh concluded, I would recommend to council approval of resolution 2025 082502 authorizing the abatement um of tall weeds, vegetation, noxious weeds at 1764 Howard Avenue. >> Looking for a motion. just kind of sorry I would like to point out just if that's okay the ones that are closest to his home are actually considered pollinator plants are actually native plants of Minnesota so that would fall underneath the native plant statute of Minnesota >> I understand that council member Vizio but we can't we're not in a position to sit here and go through the yard plant by plant we need to decide whether there's compliance or not so staff as direction. >> I would just I'm asking if we can the one close perhaps hold off on the one him not mowing down the ones our actual towards the back of the house and maybe the ones right away. >> Yes, because they do get tall. I know that. But >> master, >> thank you madam mayor, council member. um at this point because what the the argument really is, is it planned? Is it maintained? Um is it intentional? The answer to that is no. It it violates city code. It violates state statute. So, at this time, I'd say cut it all down and let's start fresh and new in the spring, >> which is not easy. And I things take time to grow and and it's hard. >> Could I add one more When I talked to Kevin, he said, "My concern is about the the growth in the front and the back is okay." So, that's a contradiction. >> Okay. Mr. Mr. ENO, as we just explained, we're dealing with the yard as a whole. That's what the hearing has been about. Um, not one particular part. So, it's regarding the entire address at 1764, the abatement of 1764 Howard Avenue. That has been my understanding since the discussion has started and since the hearing began. So staff has recommended um approving resolution- 2022-0825-02 authorizing the abatement of 1764 Howard Avenue. Is there a motion to do so? So moved. >> Moved by Duca. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Second by Francis. Any further discussion or questions? Hearing none. All in favor, please signify by saying I. >> I. >> I. >> Opposed. Same sign. Motion carries. Five to zero. The hearing is closed. Um Mr. as now um you will need to follow follow the order for abatement and in the resolution that was approved tonight and staff will work with you on next steps and we appreciate you and taking your time and coming forward and sharing your story this evening. >> So you're saying I need to mow it or you are you guys are going to come in and mow it? you will have time staff will work with you to give you a reasonable time frame for you to take care of it and if not then they come in and know when it's assessed but maybe I'm wrong so let me defer to staff for clarification. >> Thank you m mayor members of the council Mr. um according to this resolution uh we are asking the council to provide seven calendar days of the date of passing of this resolution so you would have seven days And then after that seven days if it isn't done then we will come in and do it and then charge you for the cost. >> So just point of clarification um so Mr. ENO can plan accordingly. Is that seven business days or is that seven business days or seven? Oh it's calendar. Okay. So seven calendar days. Answered my own question. Thank you. Sorry information. Thank you again for being here. All right, next item of business for us the evening this evening is letter C in new business which includes resolution 2025 802501 to allow for admin to process with pass to escrow of collections and I will turn that over to staff. >> Thank you madame members of the council. Um, this stems from the River Oaks application for 1520 Wyman Avenue um that due to public safety concerns and other factors was uh denied. Um, their land use application um the total cost incurred uh through that application process was $5,651.38. Um, multiple attempts have been made to try and contact them. The one time earlier on, um, Chris King, who was the applicant, said he has no interest in paying any of those fees. Um, he doesn't think it was fair that he's still has to pay those even though the application was denied. It says right on the, uh, application that you sign that there will be fees whether it is or is not um, denied. This is not something that can be assessed to property taxes. Um, you have the option of small claims court, which you rack up more fees for, or we can, um, send it off to a Pioneer Capital Solutions is a credit bureau, credit uh, collection agency that I've worked with in past cities. Um, they don't charge a fee. They report to all three credit bureaus. Um the fee if they collect is 30%. So it is my recommendation um that council give me the approval to place that with the collection agency. >> There any questions for staff regarding this? >> Okay with just want to be sure I'm clear. So >> if we do collect on this, we would get third 70% of that dollar amount. And then if we don't send it over to collections, we're basically at the same point of the loss. So by sending it to collections, we got a chance of getting 70% back. >> Okay. It's unfortunate that we're at this point and having something reported to a credit agency is never a good thing for anyone, but I don't think there's any choice. He hasn't given us a choice of what to do. So, I would move that we authorize staff to turn it over to collections. >> All right. There has been movement to adopt resolution number 2025825-01 to authorize the placement of the past due escrow balance with Pioneer Cap Capital Solutions Incorporated by Council Member Duca. Looking for a second. >> I'll second that one. >> Second by council member Berak. Any further discussion or questions? Hearing none. All in favor, please signify by saying I. >> I. >> Oppose. Same sign. Motion carries 5 to zero. Next item of business to come before us this morning is letter this evening is letter D, ordinance 334 um charging for excessive lift assists. And I will let um staff give us synopsis of this. Thank you, Madame Mayor, members of the council. This has been something that we've been discussing um since the River Oaks uh application and the public safety concerns um that we have with care facilities. Um we have had the opportunity to meet with Comfort Haven that is going in. Um they were agreed with us that that's it's ridiculous to have that, you know, medical services, emergency services come for lifting patients. So, they did add that in their conditional use permit as an agreement. Um, we have had I have not had but uh Chief D. Rose um and Sergeant Eberling has had and Chief Dennison has had conversations with Haven Holmes about our intent um and kind of walking them through where the concerns lie that you know we're going at 2:00 in the morning to pick someone up off the floor that doesn't have a medical issue. They just need to be lifted up and put back in the chair. Um that's taxing both on West Henipin public safety and on our fire department. Um, so we are proposing ordinance 334. Any lift assist or non-emergent fall response to an assisted living facility um would get charged $250 per call for the first one to five in a year, $500 per call for six to eight in a year, and $850 per call for nine or more in a year. Um the reporting from that would be done um with West Henipin giving us a report at the end of uh every month. Um and the city would then issue um a bill to the facility for that um sorry quarterly um 30-day payment window. Any accounts that are not paid would acrew 8% annual interest and then anything unpaid by September 1st would be certified to Henipin County for collections. With that, I will stand for any questions. Otherwise, we recommend approval of ordinance number 334. >> Any questions for staff? >> Council member Duca. Just for clarification then the the West Henipin will determine the non-emergent fall response. If that if they get a call they would then determine that was emergent or that wasn't. So you would never probably see the ones that are emergent. Correct. >> That is correct. Uh so and right now we've changed uh probably four or five months ago. Um, fire does not automatically get called to any of those 911 calls. Whips goes and then they determine whether or not fire is actually needed. So, they would determine, okay, we've got to this call. It's actually a life lift assist or it's a heart attack and it's an actual emergency. So, they would decipher that. I wouldn't see that myself. >> No. And the chief is willing to make that determination about this one will be reported or this one won't. >> The chief and his officers. Yes. >> And it's my understanding in talking with them, they're already doing that because they had data that helped support um this um I just lost the word this ordinance. Other questions or discussion? Okay. With that, looking for a motion to approve ordinance 334, charging for excessive lift assists. >> I'll make that motion. >> Motion by council member Francis. >> I'll second that motion. >> Second by council member Bureick. Any further discussion or questions? Hearing none. All in favor, please signify by saying I. >> I. >> Oppose. Same sign. Motion carries five to zero. Next item of business before us this evening is to review quotes for MEB. Thank you, Madame Mayor, members of the council. Um, this came uh across my desk. Uh, Ferguson Caswell is working on redoing their parking lot. They've added a storm drain to collect some of the water. When we get the heavy rainfalls, that entire area is underwater. Um, it's been mentioned before. Um, and I had the opportunity, uh, Dave, uh, Medina with People Service, uh, invited me to come take a look for myself at the at the problem. Um, and the drainage ditch, um, that is supposed to drain all of the water from the ditches on Poplar, are supposed to go down a drainage ditch along Industrial and then underneath the road to swamp basically, but the water can't get there. The water goes to that uh outlet and there's probably about three and a half to four feet of just sludge. So, it just sits there and then it builds up. It doesn't actually drain anywhere. So, what they're proposing is digging out the ditch lines so that way the the sludge is taken out, the grass is taken out, and crowning the road a bit so that the water drains off appropriately with the improvements that Ferguson Caswell is doing to their parking lot and the improvement of that, I think, will truly help the the water issue that we have there. And I'm hoping that it will dry up part of that uh gravel road as well because that there's some spots that are kind of mushy all the time and thinking that this will hopefully help with that problem as well. So, I also got a quote for the Rainbow Parking lot. Um at the time of of writing this, um I didn't have my wonderful update about Rainbow Park um that I provided you guys um this last week. So, I I wouldn't even look at the Rainbow Park park parking lot uh portion at this time with some of the work that might be coming up. Um the quote that we got from MEB Enterprises for Popppler and Will Streets was 20,250. Um I recommend that we use our capital improvement uh from our storm water fund to um clean that up, fix that issue. >> Thank you, Administrator Coander. Questions? And just for my edification though, the rainbow parking lot. >> Mhm. >> Correct. So there was a uh frost boil um in the parking lot. Garbage trucks kind of going in doing the three point point turns kind of tore it up even more. >> Got it. >> So we've been looking at Okay. When do we pass that? When do we fix that? >> There are cones around it, but >> correct. There are cones around it. Right. Other questions regarding um the popular and willow streets me quote. I think it's the right time to do it. I mean with Fergus and Caswell making the investment in their parking lot. Uh the potential to help the gravel road. Uh getting water in the right spots is always a good thing. So I think it'd be a missed opportunity if we didn't do it. Council member Bureick. Yeah, that's a low area around our our city and anything that we can help with drainage is going to help that region. >> All right, with that or any other discussion, comments or questions? >> Okay, looking for a motion um to accept the quote from MEB for the work to be done on Popppler and Willow. >> I'll make that motion. >> Motion by council member Francis. >> Second. Second by council member Berak. Any further discussion or questions? Hearing none. All in favor, please signify by saying I. >> I. >> Oppose. Same sign. >> Motion carries five to zero. Next item of new business to come before us this evening is to look at the painting quotes um for the fire department and staff has made a recommendation. So, I'm going to turn that over to administrator Kander. >> Thank you, Madame Mayor, members of the council. Um, we had presented a quote, I believe it was at a workshop, um, to paint the fireh hall. Um, we, uh, got two other additional quotes. Um, Varsity Painters is the lowest bid at 13,620. Mike Johnson painting is 17,500. Um, and that was the one that we had uh, previously. The third, I'm sorry, I don't have it. was 22. >> Thank you. The third one was uh 22 thou a little over $22,000. Um I was asked the question, why not go with the lowest bidder? Um one of the reasons is because they are local and we want to support local businesses. Um the bid from Johnson Painting um has more extensive prep than the Varsity Painters bid, which was the lowest one. Um they're providing for uh three colors um including um all of the doors in the Johnson bid. Then the Varsity Painters Um Johnson painting has uh is a little bit more comprehensive. It includes any stuckco, wood, windows, overhangs, um things like that that need painting. Whereas Varsity Painters was very specific. Um the Varsity Painters, which was the low bid, they had exclusions for uh doors and windows. Um whereas Johnson Painting has no problem painting the doors, they didn't exclude those from their bid to say that there would be more um the word I'm looking for, change orders if we wanted them to do those. Um the only other thing that we noticed too, Varsity Painters has just a general workmanship guarantee. uh Mike Johnson. Um it includes our final inspection and making any corrections um without additional costs if we see that they need to be done. >> Thank you, Administrator Kander. Um yes, because that is our job and I know we talked a little bit about I had asked you why would I not go with the lowest lowest bidder and we talked about responsible bidding and making sure things were all the same. It sounds like after you've done some research today, it looks like with Mike Johnson, as you've already stated, there'll be three colors. They'll do all the doors and windows, um there'll be all the um the wood, everything hanging things will be done from beginning to end completed when they leave, not just the big parts of the building are going to be done and a quality product as well. And shouldn't expect any change orders. should be the entire job from beginning to end with no change orders. >> Correct. >> Questions, comments? >> How did we get Let me back up. What did we put in the RFP that they bid on? Because I am seeing differences between one does a door, one doesn't do a door, one does the flat stuff, one doesn't do that. What was in the RFP? >> Administrator. >> Thank you, Madame Mayor. Council members Luca. Uh, we did not do an RFP. It's under the $25,000 threshold. >> So, we >> So, it was just going out asking, "Hey, you want to bid on this? This is what we need." >> Okay. And and the lesson here might be, I mean, even though it's under a $25,000 limit, specking out what they're bidding on is not a bad practice because it puts us in a bad situation here. We're not comparing an apple and an orange. We've got we've got different species here. One's doing a more complete job just because he did a better job doing it. And I'm not opposed to to the middle quote, don't get me wrong. I just think we're not doing a disservice by doing that. Second question I have is was there any dialogue or can there be any dialogue with uh with our new potential vendor of fire service for color schemes and things. Um just because we have a building painted a certain way right now may not be branded or such to uh West Suburban in a new world on January one. This was if we're going to paint it anyway, let's paint it in a color scheme that might look forward, not just necessarily what we have or at least engage the chief in a discussion. >> Mr. Madame Mayor, members of the council, council member Duca, um I could certainly ask uh Chief Lure, you know, does this kind of match with, you know, the theme that you guys are looking at doing? Um I have no problem with that at all. um and see what his in >> Yeah, he might say I don't care >> because my I'm going to speculate. I don't know for sure that Chief Dennison has probably talked to him about this, but I can confirm that and I can ask him. >> And also, well, I appreciate what you're saying, remembering that we're responsible for that building and it's in the middle of our downtown. So, how it looks does matter, at least to me. you know, it's in the gateway of our city with our electronic sign and uh they'll be renting the building from us for a dollar and we're responsible for the outside. So, >> we can theoretically paint whatever we want. It's our building, >> right? And I think what we're doing is a huge increase >> the colors and the two tones and it's gonna, you know, that area look nice. >> No, sorry. No, >> any other discussion, questions, thoughts? Um, so staff is looking for a recommendation then. Uh, I'm willing to make that recommendation to approve the bid from Mike Johnson. >> I'll make that m I'll make that recommendation to approve the bid from Mike Johnson's painting. >> Thank you, Council Member Berk. There is a motion to approve um the bid for Mike Johnson painting. LC in the amount of $17,500 for the exterior painting of the Maple Plane fire station to be paid with capital improvement funds from the general fund by council member Berak. >> Second. >> Second by council member Francis. Any further discussion or questions? Hearing none. All in favor, please signify by saying I. >> I. >> Oppose. Same sign. Eyes have it. Five to zero. That is it for new business to come before us this evening. Uh next we will begin with our council reports and other business. Who would like to kick us off tonight? Council member Francis. >> I'll kick us off. Uh attended workshops and had a rebranding meeting. Uh a lot of stuff going on. Learned a lot about the fire consolidation and what all is involved. And I appreciate all the work that has been done by both West Suburban as well as our Maple Plane firefighters and the fire commission. It's not an easy task and we're on a tight timeline to get it done and it's also a very exciting time for our city. Um so I'm looking forward to all of that. Uh we kicked it off with a joint council meeting with the city of independence and it was good to see all the firefighters that were in attendance from both departments. Um so it's just it's it's been an exciting month and we then we follow that with the budget which isn't so exciting but necessary. So I've also attended Rotary a couple times. Um heard from the district governor. >> Um, which I didn't know there was such a position. So, I it's been a month of learning for me and I'm excited for kids to be back in school and fall in the air and pumpkin flavored everything. >> Thank you, Council Member Francis. >> Sure. >> Council member Vizio. >> Uh, yes. Thank you, Madame Mayor. I like to say I enjoyed a yearly night to you night going and visiting well there's one I always go to in our ne my neighborhood and then I was thought since this is my first year on council I was going to try to go to the other parties so I one other one so I tried to make another one but they had just shut down but it was really nice to kind of get to the other side of the city that I don't go to very often decided to visit with one of my friends and it was nice to visit with them uh these new people and get to know them and talk to them as well. So, it was kind of fun. Um Chamber of Commerce was really fun this year uh month month. Lord, we had a potluck in Veterans Memorial, which is nice. Uh little I would say just kind of be comfortable and just get to talk and not worry have an agenda per se. Um so that was kind of fun. Not kind of was fun. It was nice. uh good food had by all with the joint meeting on last Thursday I did not attend watershed uh so I'm not any report there so I am sure I will have plenty to report for next month on watershed not to worry um and I echo Connie it was nice to have that joint meeting and see everybody and learn more about our joining the fire district and I found it interesting that in our monthly magazine that we get that they had talked about a little bit about cities doing joint jur joint protection jurisdictions or JPAs as well. So it was good to know that we're um in vogue so to speak here in Maple Plane. So thank you. >> Thank you council member. >> Um well I was just going to touch back on the joint council meeting. The one thing that comes to my mind when I this whole consolidation is we put the cart before the horse. I think we actually have the opposite. I think we have the horse before we got the cart. Fire department's ready to go and now we're the ones scrambling to make it happen. So, I think it's a way that the future is definitely leaning towards and it's a good move. Um, night toite was great. I enjoy getting out, meeting residents, just trying to engage. Um, getting public engagement, sitting up here is definitely a challenge, but it's a two-way street, so I have to meet make sure I'm meeting that street that way. And, you know, we got the battle of the badges coming up. So, I'm looking forward to that. A little good fun between the fire department, police department. So, we're going to have a good time tomorrow night. Thank you member Berk. Council member Duca. >> Well, a month filled with a lot of workshops and and work and I wanted to comment about the the workshops we've had about our public spaces have really helped inspire me. I think I appreciate the dialogue we've had as a team around our public spaces and I wanted to publicly thank our citizens who got involved in the process. We put together a citizens advisory group and we walked the parks and Kevin, thank you for your time in doing that and we've walked through each of the parks with the council. I think we've come up with some good recommendations and I look forward to staff bringing that back to the council in the next few months where we can start seeing the tangible changes to our public spaces. That is who we're known for as our public spaces and it just warms my heart to think through that heavy emphasis this month as we've talked about on fire related information in the workshops um on the work with the fire relief in our joint meeting. I'm encouraged by that direction. Uh council member Francis and I have a meeting later this week with the relief association board to continue the work. There's a bunch of pieces that have to be done there. Our relief president, Justin McCoy, has done a marvelous job leading that effort and getting ready for this. And I'm very, very comfortable that we'll have all the pieces in place, meeting the deadlines that we need to uh to move over these at the end of the year. Um, and a reminder for those of you that are watching, September 22nd will be the next council chat. I'm sure mayor will talk about hers in a moment, but the next council chat I'll be doing at 4 pm on September 22nd. Happy to talk to anybody about anything. >> Thank you, Council Member Duca. Um, August, there was a lot going on. Um, some fun annual events and then some meetings as well. Was able to attend the Minnesota Mayor's Association meeting. Uh we are working on planning for our annual meeting and uh really just working on communications and we're all sharing about the challenges we're facing within our cities whether large or small with budgets and um just how challenging that can be. I was able to attend the farewell lunch for investigator Cody Thompson. We were sad to see um investigator Thompson leave. We're grateful for his eight years of service and we wish um him and his family the best as they um begin this next chapter in another state away from us. And again, just thankful for the footprint and um the touch he has left here in our community and all the work he's done. Was able to attend the Maple Plane Historical Museum ice cream social. It was their largest attended ice cream social since they started. That was a beautiful day. Um, just again just a reminder of why uh what makes Maple Plane Maple Plane in the community and gathering there. And I know I saw Council Member Berk and our Vizio and I think there was a ton of people there. So it was super fun. Um I had the privilege of attending the Polo Classic. Uh it was their 36th year for doing this and I was um had the privilege of doing the honorary ball drop. So that was a fun event uh to mingle and network and again to also spend time with our first responders. Both West Henipin public safety, Maple Plane Fire, and West Suburban were all there. So huge thank you to them as well. Um Chief D. Rose and some of the officers and I were able to attend the Honor the Blue event in Delo. Again, just a great opportunity in today's environment to publicly thank and acknowledge all those who are serving and protecting our communities um 247. Uh was able to attend nightight. It's always one of my favorite nights to be mayor. It's just fun um being invited into different people's yards and visiting and mingling and saw many of you there as well. I was able to attend um all six registered parties in Maple Plane. A special thank you um to the hosts who all stepped forward to do that and to invite us. And again to West Henipin Public Safety and Maple Plane Fire um for being present at all of the parties, not just in Maple Plane. They had a very busy night um and made sure not to miss a party. And and I don't know if we've talked about this yet at council, but recently Maple Plane was named the second safest city in the state of Minnesota. And um that is just kudos to our staff and to our residents and just an involved community and community policing and just something to be very proud of. So thank you to all of them for their service and um for neighbors for watching out for one another, too. As uh council member Francis talked about, Rotary was a busy month this month and um always a joy. We have a service project coming up soon. Council member Vizio hit on the chamber picnic. Uh one fun fact about that is the Minnesota Beef Council. While they do not sell beef there, they provided steak tips for lunch and gave us a little lesson on beef and grilling. And then we also had uh our newest member, Mid Country Bank, was there as well. So welcome them to the chamber and glad to see them become part of the community. Uh as I think everyone has touched on the joint council meeting last week uh was a very memorable meeting for everyone and um just the symbolism of being there um both cities together presenting a unified fun front um working together looking forward thinking about our future about our city to ensure that we have um public safety and not just public safety but the best public safety that we can provide for our residents. And a huge shout out to the three Maple Plane chiefs um Dennis, McGinty and Cowser and to relief president uh Justin McCoy. Those four have been doing so much behind the scenes that we can't even begin um to understand that but appreciate their leadership and guidance of their teams through that and to Chief Lure for um through West Suburban. uh and just really looking forward to all of them to lead and guide us on their end as they move ahead with the consolidation and for us we'll uh keep things moving with the boring paperwork and all the legal stuff while they get to play and train and have fun together and their family grows. Um last week was able to attend the League of Minnesota Cities board meeting and again it's just such an honor to represent Maple Plane and small cities um as we work together throughout the state of Minnesota and again working on budgets. Good news is um at that meeting uh dues increase will not be more than 5%. So we do know that much about the budget. That was direction we gave and then there'll be more with the budget to come. Uh today was the interactive council um interactive chat with council formerly known as muffins with the mayor and cookies with council. And it was just a nice informal time. There's no agenda, there's no program, there's no you know formalities. um everyone just speaking together, taking turns listening to one another. And I'm grateful to each person who showed up and was engaged today because that's what makes us better is when we are engaged um throughout the entire process and throughout things going on in the city to keep us informed and also helps to dull the rumor read, which I know can be exciting, but we'd like to not have those. Um, and then, um, just want to remind everyone, Council Member Verck brought up tomorrow night, Battle of the Badges will be at 6:30 right here at Veterans Memorial Park on the Don Timpy Field. Umpire Blue Lou will be there. If you don't know who he is, Google him. You'll be surprised. Concession stands will be open. Um, Tracy will be making her renowned pork burgers will be for sale and then we'll also be collecting food for the food shelf. So come on out and cheer on all the hometown heroes and you can decide if you're going to sit on the police or fire or somewhere in the middle. Um also a fun event that's coming up Wednesday morning at the 27th at 10:00 a.m. Um our police chief and fire chief, so Chief D. Rose and Chief Dennis will be leading story time at the Maple Plane Library. I had the opportunity to do that last month and they asked me to come back this month and I said, "Hey, why don't I try and get some new people?" And both of them um said yes. So again, we have some of the best and they are willing to do that and they'll be there Wednesday. So come and watch them read stories at 10 a.m. if you want. And just a reminder and a shout out to McGaris as well. Um the golf charity fundraiser classic had to be cancelled last Monday again because Battle of the Badges was canceled because it was so wet. So that has been rescheduled for September 15th. So there'll be a shotgun aka siren start at 1:30. You'll have an opportunity to come and visit with first responders and the teams and purchase raffle tickets if you like out at Pioneer Park on September 15th. If you need more info, you can talk with James at the pub or you can ask me and I'll try and help you as well. So again, August was a fun month. There is a lot of different things going on and really just great reminder of our small town community and um the joy that we have when we're together. So that's all I have. Staff have anything? Okay. Any other business come before us this evening? Okay. Looking for a motion to adjurnn. >> I'll make that motion. >> Motion by Francis. >> I'll second. >> Second by Verck. All in favor? >> I >> oppose. Same sign. Meeting's adjourned at 8:22. to Mayor.