Good evening. My name is Latana Reeves and I'm the chair of the community commission on police oversight. Before we begin, I want to offer a friendly reminder to all members, staff, and the public that these meetings are broadcast live to enable greater public participation. These broadcasts include realtime captioning as a further method to increase the accessibility of our proceedings to the community. Therefore, all speakers need to be mindful of the rate of their speech so that our captioners can fully capture and transcribe all comments for the broadcast. We ask all speakers to moderate the speed and clarity of their comments. At this time, I'm going to call the to order this regular meeting for Monday, March 9th, and ask the clerk to call the role. >> Commissioner Mhenny, >> present. >> Shanfield is absent. Oh, she's right there. Uh, Newman is absent. Clement is absent. Palmer present. Baker >> present. >> Stewart is absent. Kennedy >> present. >> Barts >> present. >> Andre is absent. Williams Johnson is absent. Smith >> present. >> Uh Vice Chair Olsen >> present. >> And Chair Reeves >> present. >> There are nine members present. >> Let the record reflect that we have a quorum. Commissioners, the agenda for this evening is before us. I'm not aware of any proposed amendments to the agenda. So, let me ask if there are any amendments to the agenda from commissioners. >> All right. Seeing none, may I have a motion to adopt the agenda as presented? >> Smith so moves. >> Second. >> Second. >> All right. Motion and second. Clerk, please call the role. >> Commissioner Melhoney. I >> Shanfield Epstein. Uh, Newman is absent. Clement is absent. Palmer. >> Hi. >> Baker. >> Hi. >> Stewart is absent. Canada. >> Hi. >> Barts. >> Hi. >> Smith. >> Hi. Sorry. >> Smith. >> Hi. >> Vice Olsen. >> I. >> And Cher. >> I. There are eight eyes and one abstension. >> Thank you. The eyes have it and the agenda is adopted. Next, we have one set of minutes to accept from our February 9th regular meeting. May I have a motion and second to accept these minutes? >> So moved. >> Is there a second? >> Seconded. >> All right. We have a proper motion to accept the minutes. The clerk will call the role. >> Commissioner Mhenny. >> I'm sorry. the minutes. >> It's for the accepting the minutes. >> Oh yeah. Um I >> Shanfield >> I >> Palmer >> I Baker >> I >> Canada >> I >> Barts >> I >> Smith >> I >> Vice Chair Olsson >> I >> and Chair Reeves >> I >> there are nine eyes. >> All right the eyes have it and the minutes are adopted. Thank you. Next, in the order of public comments, we'll open the floor to any comments from the public, giving each speaker two minutes to address the commission. We'll be taking speakers in the order they've registered. If you wish to address the commission tonight and haven't already done so, you may register with the clerks at the side of the deis. If any speaker has printed materials, please give those to the city clerk. We also invite folks to submit written comments using the forms available from the city clerk to be included in the public record as an alternative to speaking at tonight's proceedings. Each speaker will be given two minutes to address the commission tonight. We have a timer to assist speakers in monitoring their use of time. With that, I'll open the public comment period. And our first speaker is I'm sorry, is it Joe or Jay Yates? My apologies. >> Thank you, Jay. Um, members of the Twin Cities Coalition for Justice have prepared the following statement. Since the June 3rd raid on Las Quattro Milpus at the intersection of Lake and Bloomington, the Fry administration and Minneapolis police have lied to the public repeatedly about their cooperation with ICE. Following the raid, we were told that ICE wasn't even present on June 3rd, despite multiple people, including city employees, witnessing ICE agents on scene. During Operation Metro Surge, Fry and O'Hara swore up and down that Minneapolis police would not assist in ICE operations and that officers would intervene, as is their duty, under their own policy, when ICE broke the law. This, too, was a lie. MPD consistently helped ICE by providing crowd control for them throughout the occupation and stood by while people were beaten, dragged from their cars, and assaulted by federal agents. We are living under an occupation that is framed as an investment for our safety. But Operation Metro Surge is anything but safe. Since the operation began on December 4th, 2025, throughout the Twin Cities metro and across the state, ICE has terrorized, abducted, injured, and traumatized community members and shattered any semblance of safety and normaly. MPD not only protected ICE agents throughout the surge, they failed to arrest the killers of Renee Good and Alex Prey, leaving residents armed with nothing but whistles and phones to defend their neighbors. Residents of Minneapolis witnessed how MPD colluded with ICE on January 7th in Powder Horn. January 14th in the north side, January 24th in Uptown and all over the city of Minneapolis. Despite this alleged draw down of ICE activity in our state, we have still seen continued raids, abductions, and violence against our immigrant neighbors and citizens brave enough to stand up for them. We've seen the flashbangs. We've felt the tear gas. And we've heard the lies. The lies that MPD is not assisting ICE. The lies that they are on our side. The lies that they say they do not have the resources to protect the people of our city. This pattern is nothing new. Black and brown and indigenous communities have heard these lies for decades. >> Thank you. Next up is Loretta Vanpelt. Last year, community members and supporters of the family of Allison Lucer packed the room at the February CTCO meeting. And yet, we're still demanding justice today. Read the police report and you'll see that negligence ran rampant in the handling of of Allison's case. Allison called on MPD for help at least six times before she was found dead in her apartment. Responding officers not only called off crime scene teams that could have collected crucial evidence, but they didn't question witnesses or review security footage. The medical examiner's report showed that Allison died of a subdural hematona hematoma consisted with head trauma. Yet, Chief O'Hara publicly made an agre an egregious false statement claiming that Allison Lucer died of an overdose and his officers have recruit have refused to cooperate in the afteraction review the afteraction review of the case being conducted by the city auditor. To add further harm to Allison's family, her aunt Jana Williams recently learned MPD sat on evidence pertaining to the murder of Ariana Renee Bakanaga for years. Despite having DNA evidence, video footage of the murder, ballistics data, and the suspect's identity, it has taken this department six years to even interview Ariana's killer. Allison and Ariana should be alive today, and this uh department needs to be held accountable for the cover up and their failures throughout both investigations. We demand justice for Allison and demand that Chief O'Hara go on the record apologizing to the family and admitting the lack of diligence this case deserved. >> Thank you, Latoya Taylor. >> Lata Taylor, >> my apologies, Lata. Okay. Allison and Ariana are far from the only women failed by MPD. On September 14th, 2025, after calling on MPD to enforce the order of protection against her ex-boyfriend, Mariah Samuels was shot 10 times by her abuser because our police department decided she didn't seem fearful enough to warrant protection. The city issued statements of regret, but the fact remains it took 20 days to assign an investigator despite there being an active protection order. MPD failed to conduct a proper risk assessment. And to make matters worse, MPD tried to cover up this tragedy um by pushing a false narrative. Why are the officers sworn to protect and serve not held to higher standards for conduct and training? An officer's negligence is no excuse, especially when a mother's life is the price of their incompetence. The CCPO is inherently incapable of addressing these grievances. It is a stonewall to progress and justice, a commission under the direct authority of the Frey administration that has a tightly controlled appointment process. It is powerless by design and can merely make requests of a department responsible for destroying lives while we foot the bill for tear gas and riot gear used to brutalize us. This department has killed at least 230 people since the year 2000 and has a long wrap sheet of racist vi violence. Promotion of killer cops and the abuses of power detailed in the 2022 MDHR report. >> Thank you, Jana Williams. Well, I'm going to finish this one up. Yet, our city continues to grow their budget and allow them access to militarygrade weapons, two $20 million overtime payments, and 22% raises in addition to recruitment bonuses. No other profession has given this much grace and leeway. And it is past time the people of Minneapolis had a real mechanism of oversight in this department. We deserve better than a toothless review board. We have a structure. We need a structure that lets us choose who decides who makes these decisions about public safety that is democratic and has the power to actually hold police accountable. We need the power to fire officers with a record of misconduct instead of letting a corrupt police union shield them from the consequences. We need to have a say in how the budget is allocated. It is absurd that officers are spending their time protecting corporate stores like Target, yet only have two officers dedicated to domestic violence response. A civilian police accountability commission staffed by those impacted by police violence and negligence would grant the police, the people of Minneapolis that power. We're demanding justice for the impacted families of police misconduct, the thousands of our neighbors living in fear across our cities. And we will not rest until we we until we win community control of the police. Chief O'Hara, I know you're sitting here and I know that this board is sitting here. You guys are going to get tired of listening to me. This is my second niece. Second issue within MPD that you guys screwed up. Why did it take six years? They had the DNA. Was it possibly that your your homicide detective failed to enter the DNA into the national database? God, I've got a lifetime. I've got a lifetime to do this. I do. And I will stand here. You know why? because this is going to affect your daughters and our granddaughters. If we don't make this change right now, who is going to who is going to? We need to make change and we do need accountability, community control of the police. That's right. >> That's what we need. Thank you. >> Next up is Connor Wells. Police Chief O'Hara and commissioners, thank you for taking public comment from the community. We communities unite against police brutality have prepared this statement for you all. We have two issues we would like to discuss. The first is regarding the conduct of the Minneapolis police during the Ice Siege. First, we should all be clear that while the number of ICE agents may have decreased, they are not gone by any means. Further, they seem to be replaced by bounty hunters. Throughout this siege, it was the community that protected our neighbors from the reckless, violent, and untrained federal agents that ascended on our city. Minneapolis police were largely nowhere to be found and in every way utterly failed in your duty to protect the residents and community. Well, let's take a step back. Chief, you need to acknowledge your role in bringing the feds here in the first place. Your false claim that East African youth are the cause of crime bolstered the racism of our current federal administration and encouraged Nick Shirley and other social media slot merchants to manufacture claims about the Somali community. Your apology was no apology at all. It was a statement that blamed the listener for misunderstanding what you said. Then once violent federal agents descended on our town, the Minneapolis police all but disappeared. Where the hell was the MPD? By your own admission, in response to CCPO questions and in comments you made to the city council last week, the Minneapolis police did not intervene in a single incident of excessive force by federal agents. In fact, they didn't even document those incidents. This despite thousands of videos showing excessive force. Not once did the MPD intervene when agents pointed guns at people in situations in which deadly force would never be justified. Not once did MPD intervene to stop agents from randomly deploying chemical munitions, including chemicals that are prohibited by the post board. Not once did MPD stop agents from engaging in illegal traffic stops, breaking out windows, dragging people from their vehicles. >> Thank you. Next up, it's Michelle Gross. Chief O'Hara, you let that and more happen on your watch, including the use of deadly force on three of our community members, two of whom were killed. Even in those circumstances, the shooters were allowed to leave the scene without being arrested. Why did the MPD facilitate known killers leaving the scene? Why? On December 4th, you made the following statement. Quote, "If unlawful force is being used by any law enforcement officer against any person in the city and one of our officers is there, absolutely I expect them to intervene or they will be fired." Close quote. You also stated that that cases of quote excessive force were that that were readily apparent would merit officer intervention. However, just last week, you told the city council that there were never any opportunities for police officers to intervene despite literally hundreds of incidents of excessive force by federal agents. You also claimed that incidents had to be quote egregious and that the force used by federal agents had to be quote illegal in order for MPD officers to intervene. This is a false characterization of the level of force at which MPD officers are required to intervene. The Minnesota Postboard policy on the use of force requires officers to intervene when they witness force being used that is quote beyond what that which is reason object objectively reasonable under the circumstances. Let's be clear any use of force beyond what is objectionably objectively rather reasonable is in fact illegal. Further postboard policy, MPD use of force policies and MPD policy 9-41 on interactions related to inter to immigration make it clear that even if an officer is unable to intervene to stop the force, they have a duty to report that incident in writing within 24 hours. You told the city council last week that only two such incidents were even reported. In claiming that force incidents had to be quote egregious and quote illegal before MPD officers had a duty to intervene or at least report the incidents, you are retroactively adding unwritten conditions to the policies just to cover up for and and excuse violations of those policies. These excuses make it clear that you have no intention of holding officers accountable for failing to follow these policies. Yet, despite managing to be nowhere on the scene whenever excessive force was used by federal agents, your officers somehow managed to rack up $5.2 million um in um overtime in January alone. What did the community get out of that fleecing of the city coffers? It certainly wasn't protection of the community. Is it possible that your officers had focused on protecting the community, Alex Good, Alex Patty rather, and Renee Good would still be alive? Is that possible? We think it is. You told the city council last week that your officers focused on quote public order policing, essentially controlling the community while ICE agents ran rough shot over our city and abused our neighbors. This was the wrong focus. And essentially, you assisted federal agents by attempting to insulate them from community protests to their actions. I'm going to finish my sentence. >> Well, I was just say that they stop they need to start the clock right away. So, I think you went for four minutes. >> Well, oh, okay. Let me just finish the sentence. This was especially true on January 4th when your officers shut down the entire neighborhood around the scene of the Alex Patty killing in order to stifle First Amendment protected activities. >> Thank you. Next up is Darlene Scott. >> Finally, this point we want to raise especially concerning questions about uh Minneapolis Police Department failure to protect the community. At least at la at last week's city council meeting, you told a story of MPD officers arriving at the protest at a hotel. ICE agents were pointing guns toward the crowd of protesters. Your officers left because they didn't want to be in the line of fire. But apparently you had no concerns about members of the community facing live munitions willed by federal agents who were already responsible for killing two of our community members. How can you justify the failure of your officers to protect the community at the scene? The min the Minneapolis Police Department had a golden opportunity to build trust in the community and come off as heroes and your folks blew it. Meanwhile, people across the country around the world are lauding the bravery and spirit of the people of Minneapolis. Our next set of commitments comments are related to the consent decree. While this topic may seem unrelated, it isn't. Minneapolis Police Department conducting during the ice siege is a reflection on the culture of the department. The same culture the consent decree that seeks to change. Yet despite its importance and court mandate, the city's progress on consent decree is graciously slow. Why is that? The city's contract with the which marks the official start of the consent degree degree deadline was September 2nd, 2024. >> Thank you. Next up is Andrew Lewis. Therefore, the city has been in the consent decree process for just over 1.5 years. What do we have to show for it? A number of important deadlines have been missed or are in danger of being surpassed. We need a complete accounting of where we are on these deadlines. We all agree that it is more important to do this work well than it is to do it fast. But we still need to ensure that we're striving towards achieving the goals of the consent decree. Key to changing culture and improving accountability is updating policies to match the requirements of the consent decree. We appreciate that the process for changing policies has built-in mechanisms for collecting and including public input. We have dedicated hundreds of hours to providing that input. However, our review of policies have shown us that they are generally not thoroughly thoughtfully written and often do not incorporate policing's best practices. Writing effective and clear policies involves both skill in policy writing and an expertise in police practices. We are not seeing competence in the draft policies coming out of the department and this matters because policies provide guidance for officer as they work as well as a baseline for accountability. Policies also provide the basis for training. MPD cannot update its training until it has finalized policies to train on. This leads us to some questions. Who in the in the implementation team is writing these policies? What training, education, or expertise do the policy writers have on constitutionally correct policing? Are you relying on MPD officers to be subject matter experts on policy writers on policies that they're writing when it was these policies and training they are most familiar for which has led to the many civil rights violations that made the consent decree necessary? Thank you. >> Thank you. Next up is Nasim Chajik. >> Nasim. >> Nasim. >> She hasn't made it here yet. >> She hasn't made it here yet. She's working. >> I'm sorry. >> I said she's hasn't made it here yet. >> We'll come back. Uh Howard Datson. Evening commissioners. Thank you for your service to the city. I was a police chaplain for 15 years for four departments. It's from that perspective that I told the New York Times that I see Chief O'Hara as my hope for the city of Minneapolis. When he came here, Newark had not one officer involved shooting. He has preserved officer Mitchell's legacy with the new officers and the cadetses, the rebuilding of the MPD that we need so that we have the public safety that we deserve. I ask you to look up appreciative inquiry. That's one of the philosophies I lead by that you build from strengths. You criticize in private you praise in public. So that conversation should be happening not grandstanding, not peacocking, but actually sitting down with our partners finding tangible solutions. So at 34th in Portland, we had the people on the scene, the chaplain, the medics, but at 24th in Lindale, at 26 in Nicollet, it was me with federal agents on one side and protesters on the other and the city gives millions of dollars for violence interruptors. I told Senator Champion, I told the council members, and I told Allison Harrington, "Where are the violence interrupterss? Where are the shirts? We dodged a bullet." And MPD was not the source of the problem. And I saw people screaming at MPD when it was ICE agents who did this. I want to thank MPD for helping us navigate the storm. And I stand by what I said to the New York Times. Chief O'Hara is my hope. Thank you, Mayor Fry, for selecting him. And thank you, Mayor Chief O'Hara, for the sacrifices you made to serve our city. >> Thank you. >> If someone could just give me a heads up when Nim comes and I'll come back to that person. Uh, next up is Chuck. Hi. If a tree falls in the forest, does it make a sound? If someone makes a public comment to this commission, will anyone know what was said? I'd like to make a public comment, but I'm not going to. That's because the city clerk's office is now taking the position that only names of the commenters, not the gist of the public comments they make, are to be included in the minutes of your meetings. That office says the public can get the comments from the meeting videos. But the minutes are the meeting's official record, not the videos. The videos can disappear at any time. Why this is important is not so that people making public comments get recognized for having done so. What is important is that a meeting's official record makes it clear that the commission members and possibly even the city council, the mayor, or the chief of police were made aware of a particular issue. I'd rather have my comment included and my name omitted rather than the reverse, which is silly. A list of names and which is what we now have too often today in Minneapolis city government. That's what passes for transparency and accountability. Yikes. So, I have no comment tonight and please do not include my name in the minutes unless it is an invisible ink or whatever the digital equivalent of that is. Thank you for allowing me to make this non- comment about falling trees and unknown comments. >> Thank you. Next up is Nasim Thank you. Continuing on the questions for CUAPB, have you hired any external policy writers who are experts in constitutional policing? Are you relying on Alifa's reviews of policies to cover the skill shortfall of the implementation team? Are you so far behind in policy writing because the initial drafts you are passing to AIFA are deeply flaw flawed? What best practices and outside policies are being referenced in the creation of new policies? Finally, we want to ask you about the federal consent decree. While all while we all know that the DOJ withdrew from pursuing the consent decree, may Mayor Fry promised that the city would implement it anyway. There is a good bit of overlap between the two consent decrees, but there are some differences. Is the city measuring compliance with the terms that the consent decree? And if so, how? What are the MPD's responsibilities related to implementation of the terms of the federal consent decree? It would seem that if the city and MPD are behind on the MDHR consent decree, you are also behind implementing the terms of the federal consent decree. That especially seems to be the case in terms of changing the contract to address secondary employment, the DOJ's term for offduty work. Given this, we ask, where is the police department's urgency? Where do you pro where do your priorities lie? If proper implementation of the consent decree and related policies is not being accounted for, how are we supposed to trust our law enforcement? The questions presented to you are available on paper. Please reread them and provide the community with the answers we deserve. And to the CCPO, we ask that you join in supporting us to get these answers. Our questions and frustrations reflect the needs and worries of the community. Take them seriously. Accept our valid concerns. Be transparent and honest in your answers. This is an opportunity to transform the department. Do not waste it. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Is it Joe Vital? >> Sorry. Just grabbing our stuff back. >> Sorry. No way. Sorry. Work. Thank you, commission. Uh, and thank you again for your service to this city. Uh, I'm Joe Vital, W 10 resident. Uh, I'm a son, I'm a brother, I'm an uncle, proud positions that I hold and I'm in here in solidarity with the Twin Cities Coalition for Justice as well as the Justice for Allison Lucer and all of our MMIR. We all want a new system and systems that work and more importantly systems that improve, you know, recognizing what is flawed and gaps. And what we see here pointed out by community members are gaps and standard practice for creating process that will fail, which is all too uh rudimentary and consistent with our and how our governments typically work. We just went on a month-long at least most uh government officials have gone on this public run talking to the media about the benefits of community and how uplifting they are and more importantly how they're experts in the needs that they know that they need. And I see now in systems like this, you know, as complicated as they are, as you know, overlapping as they become with different systems of government, and how there are sneaking coming from government officials, our public safety officers when these same community members that just spent months defending this city, while our public servants, with the exception of Elliot Payne and Jason Chavez and many others, were nowhere to be found. We just described an historic payout of overtime and what was that result? Two community members dying, our schools raided, and still our women go missing. But best believe if a house or property is under siege, you know where to find our public safety officers defending property. >> That's right. People matter just as much as our property. I know it's complicated. Let's figure it out together. Witch. >> Thank you. Anita Gates. >> Anita. Sorry if I'm saying you wrong. It looks like it says Anita Gates. Oh, >> I'm honored to be among your uh council and uh I support all of these young people here. I'm an elder in the community. I'm one of the directors at the Upper Midwest Indian Center and um I have formed friendships with the mayor and and the chief of police and I I have some real pluses about about these officers and um uh however I I believe in this generation. I think we're a little bit hasty in in how we do our uh do the traffic stops and also the police calls and uh reluctant to get all the information we should get about uh uh violent violence committed in our families. And when I when I drive home from work, I see people laying in the street possibly uh you know, oding from from drugs. They're they're hungry. You know, if if people can can create policies, I know there's a lot of topdown people that that's all they like to do, but if we could figure out back in the day, if somebody was addicted to drugs or alcohol, uh I was so proud to live in Minnesota because you didn't get away with that. you had to go to treatment and that prevented a lot of, you know, cascading of other things. And also following up on police calls and not ignoring, you know, my uh I I I hate that word minority. I'm an ethnic study scholar and I I would like to say that you know people of color, American Indians, they are left out of, you know, that close attention that we need to get to get to the bottom of each crime that is committed. Uh there's some heavyduty drugs out there. Uh people don't slow down in the in this in the roads. I was almost run over by a Henipin County minibus and then uh two rookies stopped me and blamed me. >> Okay. >> And I told them, I'm on the way to a center to to help people in recovery. I said, I don't look at me like I'm high or don't look at me like I have a weapon. And that's what they were doing. >> Anita, thank you. I would ask you to put any other comments. I just wanted to give that example and and hopefully uh all of uh the people here listen too. Thank you. >> Next up is Eileen Johnson. >> Uh good evening. My name is Eileen Johnson. I live in Ward 3 in North Loop. On behalf of the all volunteer Minneapolis neighborhood safety clubs, we want to express gratitude to Chief O'Hara and to all of MPD for their dedication and excellent work. We appreciate MPD always and especially in hard times. Thank you. >> Thank you. Next up is Mary Joe. >> Okay. Ty present. >> She's sitting right here. >> Mary Joe, >> I don't want to repeat what has already been um offered to you, but I just in in in brief summary um what I have done is to go back to how we got to where we are right now. And that dates back to just before the settlement agreement with the Department of Human Rights was approved by the state district court. And just prior to that, there were two press releases that were released by the Department of Human Rights. one that talked about the findings from their investigation and one that notified the community that the district court had approved that settlement agreement with the understanding that it would be enforced, it would be followed and those commitments that were made by the city would be abided by. In addition to that, on the same date that the district court approved the settlement agreement, a press release or statement was issued that confirmed the joint responsibility and the commitment by the city of Minneapolis and the Department of Human Rights that the agreement would be abided by. understanding that there was a great deal of work ahead, but also understanding that they were ready and committed to do the necessary work. It's been a year and a half. We're not seeing any of the results of that commitment. We question the validity of that commitment and the seriousness of what folks on that day abided by and required and committed to the city of Minneapolis and all of its residents. and we're not seeing that. The provisions of the federal consent decree, while we no longer have a Department of Justice at the federal level, were disregarded. However, it was very clear that the city of Minneapolis via the mayor had agreed that the provisions of that consent degree would be fully incorporated into the settlement agreement. And while there are many ga many overlaps between the two, there are differences and distinctions. Thank you so very much. >> Thank you. Next up is uh Ty Prescott. And I would ask everyone please h to the microphone because the closed captions want to make sure they grab it. When you turn away, they can't quite hear. Thank you. >> All right, let's see. Hello. Uh my name is Ty Prescott. I'm with W 5. Um, I just want to re-emphasize what um, the people out here have been saying. They've been talking about how uh, Chief O'Hara said that if unlawful force is being used by law enforcement against any person in this city and our officers are there, I expect them to interfere or they'll be fired. He also said that officers have a duty to intervene. And yet last week we heard from Mary Morardi that essentially nothing was even reported because they couldn't be bothered. Um, and furthermore, I live in Northside and between the shootings of Alex Prey and Renee Good, which I can't believe I have to say. Um, someone was shot through their front door and then ICE deployed crowd control and deployed flashbangs and a baby had to be sent to the hospital because he couldn't breathe. And yet MPD prioritized crowd control. I'm sorry, but when we are putting our bodies on the line to protect our neighbors, when we are getting rammed by ICE vehicles, when we are having tear gas thrown at us randomly, those are obvious, egregious, to use the word uh violations of use of force. That is incredibly obvious. And the fact that Jonathan Ross, Jesus Okosoa, and Raundo Gutierrez are not in custody right now after we watch them murder someone in front of God and everybody is incredibly frustrating to me. >> Why are we focusing on what the what MPD isn't able to do when they have shown over and over again that they are willing to brutalize us at every turn? They have the power to do something and they chose not to. And frankly, I think that that was intentional. Thank you. >> Okay. Thank you. Is there any additional one moment, please? >> We'll make sure. >> Does anyone else want to sign up while we're waiting? We're here. >> Is it Maya or Albright? >> Yes. >> Thank you. >> Hello. >> Hello. I just want to say thank you to the council for holding public comment and listening. Um, and thank you to your service to the city. Um, my name is Maya and I am a resident of Ward 3. I'm involved in um, community oversight in Northeast and I'm also here in solidarity with TCC forJ and MMIR. And I just want to like directly say to like Chief O'Hara, it is honestly astonishing that you are sitting here during this meeting in public comment and you really have not looked up by your own. my one second. Can you speak to the mic? >> Yeah, sorry. You really have not looked up at your phone for the last like 30 minutes while people have been speaking yet. You really love to talk to the media and smile for the centerfold at the New York Times, but you cannot even actively listen to the community um during public comment after the last two months of brutality that we have faced. Um despite the other city officials who actually can look people in the eye, I really do respect all of you, the other officers. Um, >> and so I just want to say that like if the role of the police is to serve and protect, you have honestly failed. Um, but I also want to uplift the story of Allison Lucer again because domestic violence is a very serious um issue. Domestic violence and sexual violence against women is a serious issue and that is underresourced despite it affecting one in three women. Um, that's many women here in this room guaranteed. Um, and with the growing threats from fascism, we really must address these threats that the community has uplifted tonight. Um, and it's obvious that the community seriously cares and has ideas on these solutions and problems. And so, I just want to ask to everyone like who who seriously cares here. Um, please look around. And so, thank you tonight to everyone who has spoken. >> Thank you. Yes, ma'am. This is the same I just Okay. Is it Vanessa Frank? >> Hi everybody. Um I have not prepared anything. Um but it just feels really important to ask you all where were you? Um because we showed up. We showed up. We turned out and untrained individuals. I work two jobs and I am in school. And we still found the time to show up for our neighbors as ICE went the wrong way around roundabouts, red ran red lights, sped away, and forced accidents and forced children, teen drivers to crash into trees so that they could arrest kids and not even allow them to prove their identification. We were there. We moved those cars out of the road so there wouldn't be tickets. On top of that, we showed up. Where were you guys, that's all I had to say is like you had the easiest opportunity to show up for us and we were failed. Our neighbors were failed. We were failed. We weathered the storm. And respectfully, sir, we did it without you. >> That's right. >> Not as well. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you everyone. We completed all public comment and we'll close the public comment period. First, the next order of business is reports and the first up is an update from the MPD police chief. I'm going to invite Commissioner Shamfield to introduce this item. Thank you, Chair. Chief O'Hara, welcome. Thank you for joining us here tonight. MPD has the vital task of constitutional and non-discriminatory policing to protect the safety of individuals in Minneapolis. This is a difficult and complicated responsibility that comes with a lot of bud of baggage. You've heard the emotion here tonight. U you've witnessed this for the last 90 days in the city. This has been incredibly intense and heartbreaking and dangerous. I'd like you to imagine two photographers taking pictures of Operation Metro Surge. Through one lens there, uh, let's look at a scene of a garbage garbage cans in the road. Through one lens, this looks like protecting our neighbors and trying to keep ice out if we're barricading a street with garbage cans. through another lens, through another camera angle, this could look like stifling safety of a community because the ambulances can't get through. How it looks and how it feels through a lens depends on who is looking through the lens. It's not the same. People see things differently. The view and the viewfinder depends on where you aim the camera. And there are constraints and restraints as well. Our purpose here tonight is a dialogue with you with the intent to close the gap between civilian perception and law enforcement rationale and reality. Tonight, I hope the dialogue will open both our aperture as well as yours to see a bigger picture and to be able to work together. Meaningful community involvement is imperative to MPD's accountability and transparency. That's why we're here every month. That's why we gather in our subcommittees of uh research and policy and community engagement for uh in December uh February uh in our at our last large body full body meeting uh we looked at 9401 again and uh came up with a list of questions. We sent them to you. You responded. Thank you so much. At our last PPR, police policy research and recommendations committee meeting. We looked at those answers uh and they generated more questions. So we with the community members present um coll co collated a bunch of questions and then categorized those. Those were sent to you last week. The the we had an intense discussion about what might help people feel a sense of safety again a feeling and a and a perception what it looks like what it feels like. We read the answers that you provided us and um the categories uh which we sent to you hopefully folks can see them on the linked agenda are the use of force, interacting with federal agents, securing crime scenes, communicating and reporting and training. Through our review of 9401 and our discussions, we understand that the policy as well as Minneapolis's separation ordinance were written intentionally to limit MPD's interaction with federal agents. We look forward to hearing both the rationale and explanations of what h o occurred as well as your reflections on the approach MPD employed and the potential implications and impact and unintended consequences uh ways that it could have looked to community members. Please, please share your thoughts uh with us uh at this moment and um we are a body of folks committed to um helping make the SA city safer and we look forward to collaborating. Thank you. >> Thank you. We invite Chief up. >> Good evening everyone. Thank you chairperson for the invite and uh to the commissioners for the opportunity to be here. We created a like an overview a PowerPoint an overview um to sort of u you know give a a highlevel overview of kind of what was going on. and we're just trying to weave in responses to the questions uh that were submitted where we think it might be appropriate, but still kind of just going through a quick um sort of overview of of where we were with this thing. Um so obviously again thank you for the opportunity to be here. Operation Metro Surge was about uh 12 weeks long uh in duration. I'll talk briefly about sort of the work going on in the police department before that. Kind of where we were going into this. Um both the reform work as well as public safety is in the city uh and some revisions around policy that specifically uh impact immigration enforcement and then kind of take a quick overview of of how this thing unfolded. So just again starting out with an operations update, a summary uh chronologically of the surge and then the impacts that it had on the department June through December. Um there had been progress made in a number of areas in the department. I think one thing that we had made significant impacts on over the last uh the six months u of last year were response times. Uh response times to emergency calls in the city had typically been about 7 minutes or less on average. They had gone up uh on average 9 minutes or higher uh and had remained that way for quite some time. Um going into the surge, we had gotten it back down to about 7 and 1/2 minutes um and then kind of lost that uh while the surge was happening and we're back down to about 7 and 1/2 minutes now. So that's significant. We're aware of, you know, trends with violent crime, murder have been down significantly. Uh shooting victims have been down significantly, particularly on the north side of the city. last year was the lowest number of shooting victims in North Minneapolis since the city has been recording shooting victims uh separately from aggravated assault. So I think that goes back to about 2008 last year had been uh the lowest number of victims on the north side. Burglary and autotheft had been down last year. And then also significantly around this well we're trying to implement all of this reform work. Minneapolis has the unique challenge that we're also trying to rebuild the workforce at the same time. So, a mass exodus of employees. Most of the time I've been chief, we've been losing uh employees continuously and not having a net gain. Last year, we hired 125. We had a net gain of about 125 people for sworn positions. The majority of them are not yet officers, and they're overwhelmingly uh people of color. Uh it's a lot more diverse than the police department here had historically ever been and many of them are from countries around the world, different continents around the world. The uh uh you know the overarching way that the reform work has been approached has been community engagements. There's been a number of sessions. There's a whole process defined by uh the settlement agreement, the way policy is is uh developed and then once it's developed that leads ultimately to the training and the reform work. Last year there were 29 policies that had been approved. There was one uh called the policy resource hub. It's sort of uh like a document management system that had been implemented. Um, prior to this, the only access employees had to policy was through a PDF document. So, this is something that's a lot more modern. It's available on officers phones. It has keyword searches. It it links to other policies. Um, and it's better for accountability as new policies are issued to ensure that everyone has received them. There have over 20,000 hours of training delivered uh last year. And in terms of engagement in the reform process, there were 24 focus groups, 10 community sessions, and really countless, you know, countless countless pieces of uh of community feedback that were received. the immigration policy revamp. This happened uh started to happen last year as a result of the incident that happened on June 3rd at Lake in Bloomington which caught us by surprise and uh kind of got us sucked up sucked into a situation um that we're able to learn from and quite frankly you know the process then that we uh seeking you know feedback from this body from the community in general helped to inform uh what the immigration uh enforcement policy in the city would be. Um, and I think that was helpful to place the police department in a better position going into December. Um, if we had gone into this cold, we wouldn't have been uh as well prepared uh as we were at the time and just going through this thing uh you know, which was unprecedented and truly was like the world was upside down going through this. We learned as we went along. uh we did the best we could to adjust as we were learning things that were happening and I'll talk about that when I get into um some of the some of the specifics with the timeline but in talking about the policy there's some questions uh that came up that I think are relevant uh to this um one being the the training there's a question you know how much training is provided for policies um in person online especially you know, use of force, duty to intervene, and these types of subjects. So, last year there was uh three full days of training that was provided uh 8 hours each to every sworn member of the department. Um and that was the training around use of force uh and the issues specific to that. That's training that was developed as a result of the settlement agreement process here. uh and ultimately training that was approved um by the by the uh independent monitor towards that. So that's one example. Use of force 24 hours of training. There's a wide variety uh on types of training hours required. As I mentioned before, there were 20,000 hours of training that were delivered by the department. There's training that's required by the state. Um so it's there is really just a wide variety of uh training requirements. Some of it is in person, some of it is online. Um it just depends on what the particular topic uh the topic is. Training provided to officers past or future on how to intervene as safely as possible when excessive force is being used by federal agents. Um due to the the duty to intervene, training for MPD is for uh is historically for the way the state law is set up. It's for people that are operating under the same set of laws that are licensed as peace officers in Minnesota. Um, so it's very obvious to us we're trained in the state law here. Uh, we have uh the same law regarding use of force and although you know internal policies between different police departments in Minnesota can vary, the law does not change. Um there's no current policy or training uh you know specifically on how to intervene with people who are operating under a different set of laws whether that's you know another state or in this case the US code. Um there's different court decisions that impact federal law enforcement um that do not impact Minneapolis to you know Minnesota peace officers. Um it's a very complex situation and it is not one specifically. One local officers in this state are just not trained on what the laws are, what the use of force continuum is for uh the different federal agencies. Um and two, we operate under the state laws in this state. what guidance is provided on how to handle situations when federal agents violate local laws. Um the examples were speeding, reckless driving, that that type of thing. There is no specific guidance on how to uh enforce those particular local laws on federal law enforcement. I think with all of these things, um, it's very easy to deal with if you're dealing with an officer that is whatever agency they are that is off duty. They're acting as a private citizen. Once we have federal law enforcement that are acting in the performance of their duties under federal law, you get you get a much more complicated situation. And again, it's one that just we are not trained on. Uh we don't know the laws uh that they're operating on. We don't know their their policies, their court decisions around these things. So it just it just becomes um an a very unusual situation and unprecedented. What do you believe the need will be for more training regarding the policy 9-41? Um, we're adding additional language and reporting requirements. Um, there's work that's going on between the implementation unit and the city attorney's office to uh to provide those updates and it's going through the the typical policy development process. And there's some questions around interacting with federal agents that I think is also relevant to uh when we're talking about the policy. How can MPD officers engage with federal agents to enforce the law and halt uh unlawful and objectively dangerous behavior by agents as well as people posing as federal agents? So, typically, you know, under the separation ordinance and under the policy, MPD officers cannot engage with federal agents while they're conducting immigration enforcement. The separation ordinance specifically prohibits MPD from cooperating with federal law enforcement for those purposes. Um so and in addition to that, we don't know beforehand um you know we're not told by them what specific uh enforcement operations they're conducting, where they're conducting it, who they're targeting, and and those types of things. Um, so it just it makes all of this um just incredibly complicated. Um, at the at the um obviously at the scenes of the different shootings that we had uh there were a number of members of the community that helped the police officers uh to try and deescalate things to keep people safe. That was both elected officials, members of the city council, uh, state elected officials as state senator, state representative, um, but also just, you know, regular regular residents. Um, because at at those scenes, uh, the primary objective for the police department was one to try and keep the peace, but two to try and preserve the evidence of the scene. Um, you you cannot possibly have uh an investigation, let alone a potential prosecution, unless there's evidence to be used to obtain not just a a charge in some case, but ultimately for for a court to to have a conviction if it's needed. So, what other directives or factors prevented MPD from enforcing local laws in these situations? um you know even in situations where police may have been there after the fact which generally we were not there because of the policy because of the separation ordinance because that's largely what the community wanted going into this. Um, you know, we wouldn't know at the time just showing up what exactly uh federal law enforcement was doing. Uh what what laws they were enforcing uh why they were arresting someone. Um you know, they just they have they literally have different laws, let alone different policies. They have a totally different authority than what we do. We have no authority whatsoever uh to enforce federal law to enforce federal immigration law. Um in the same respects they have no authority uh to enforce uh the traffic law in the state. Um so it's you know just two literally two completely separate lanes um that just add a a complexity to to all of this. So talking back again with the policy revamp that went through a process here that I know that the the commissioners are aware of. Um we we you know issued it to the entire department required every member of the department to sign off that they understood it. Um and it ensured that our police officers one um do not self-deploy to any of these scenes. Uh but if they do wind up on a scene where federal law enforcement is also present that they will only take direction from supervisors in the Minneapolis Police Department and they will not take direction uh from federal law enforcement. It was complicated at all of these scenes. Um because again, regardless of what people regardless of, you know, what people think about what they were doing, what we feel about how they were doing it, um these agencies are established by law and we have to follow the law. we cannot um you know physically obstruct uh and stop them from conducting law enforcement. So it was just an incredibly complicated situation. Um bringing us now so the policyy's revised, it's implemented bringing us now to December uh and it's at the beginning of the month obviously that the surge happens. This is just a quick timeline of some of the major events. It's announced in the beginning of December. By December 9th, there's an American citizen that was arrested uh in Cedar Riverside. Um this kind of uh you know, one of the first uh kind of public moments with this December 15th, that was a day there was uh there was a help call. um federal law enforcement called 911 and said I don't remember but said a very high number of law enforcement officers were actively being assaulted at 29th in Pillsbury. So it typically happens when the the communications department receives a 911 call from another agency saying that there's you know a trooper needs help or a sheriff's deputy needs help. they they hit they hit a tone on the radio and sort of anyone who's available from around the city just goes to the scene and that's what happened on this day. Um, and immediately when that happened, uh, I was afraid we were going to wind up having a repeat of what happened on June 3rd, which was people were, uh, you know, very concerned at why is MPD at the scene, uh, with federal law enforcement again. And our officers went, um, they thought they were going to something where federal law enforcement was being assaulted. They saw there was no actual violence going on while they were there. They didn't observe any threats of violence. and less than 10 minutes the officers disengaged and left the scene. after that um to try and prevent these things from happening. And this this is now like the the number of calls and things are escalating at the time. I created a full-time position and we opened up an oper operations center to try and monitor things that were happening so that if federal law enforcement or somebody calling reported something like that again, we did not wind up going and getting drawn into a situation that was not true. um that ultimately then would wind up having MPD be the problem or having MPD unnecessarily escalate a situation. Um so that's sort of the first uh the first significant change we made in our procedures. Then around January 5th is when this is escalated further. Um the Bo is sent to the city. There's over 2,000 additional agents from a variety of agencies. They're here. So, um I believe it's it's it's over 3,000 I think at this point. There's Border Patrol, ICE, HSI, uh eventually there were Federal Bureau of Prisons officers here, uh Customs and Border Protection. It's at least 3,000 agents that wind up coming here. Obviously, a very very significant escalation. Uh, and I ordered every member of the police department to be in in uniform on January 6th, our investigators, all of our people, because I was afraid that we were about we were going to have something happen uh that would require a very large police response uh to try and keep the city safe. Um, and unfortunately the the very next day is when Renee Good was killed. Um, now that day we responded to the scene and there were literally a few hundred ICE agents there. Um, and we were able to get we're able to get them to leave eventually. Um, because their presence alone was just escalating things. Um, and there was real concern both at one trying to preserve evidence but two trying to keep people safe. Um, eventually they left. uh many members of the city council and elected officials were there trying to help deescalate things. Members of the community and for the most part um that day was uh that that scene was uh was calm for most of it until the very end. Uh at the very end um there were people throwing ice and rocks and other things. There were several officers that and state troopers that wound up being injured while the police were uh trying to leave the scene at the end. Um the following week there's the shooting on the north side uh which was non-fatal. Um and is not really publicly it seems like hasn't been talked too much. It kind of gets lost with the two fatalities. Um that was a a much more tense scene that day. Um you there were fire there were federal law enforcement was u you know using uh tear gas. um police officers had to respond in to uh help a family with a child that was having trouble breathing from the tear gas. Um and it was very very quickly it had become u a very unsafe situation. Um the the following uh week in the midst of obviously there's protests and demonstrations going on all throughout this uh the vice president visits the city in the middle of all of these things happening ultimately on the 24th uh we know Mr. Py is killed. Uh and really it's that day um that day I think was the greatest risk that we had um of just having uh widespread destruction um and starting off the cycle where that we had in 2020 where people ultimately lost their lives. um uh 26th uh or on the 26th and 27th uh Bino is ultimately reassigned and then we know the the draw down begins. Um hang on one second there this is number eight. Okay. So related to this some of the questions here uh besides ICE masks what other obstacles to uh getting information uh so names and badge numbers and that kind of thing. Um so we have um we have two potential misdemeanor assault cases we've investigated. Um we have video from that. We've sent it to the um the office of the inspector general uh for homeland security. One case involves an ICE agent. Another case involves a custom and border patrol agent. Um we've provided them with our video. Um that is typically how uh these things are handled. If people have a complaint, you know, people call us and they have a complaint about a sheriff's deputy, something happened, we refer them to the sheriff's office. If you know people have a complaint about a trooper, we refer them to the appropriate investigative agency for the state patrol. These cases are different obviously because uh so much is not functioning the way it typically functions. Um so in these cases we've taken uh reports, we've conducted investigations, done what we could uh provided our evidence to, you know, video and what we have to uh the office of the inspector general and we're waiting to hear back. Um, so obviously they have to work to try and identify who their own agents are. Um, and I know they've had some difficulty in carrying that out. Um, but ultimately if we if we wind up not hearing back, you know, we'll consult the city attorney and just try and figure out how we could also uh proceed from there. Um but again it's uh it's complicated because even in these situations it's not typically how something like this would proceed. If someone says that they again the same type of thing happened with a sheriff's deputy you know we would refer it to the appropriate investigators that handle the sheriff's office. Um, even if somebody felt like they had uh, you know, law enforcement violate their civil rights, typically on the federal side, that's the FBI that conducts these investigations. Um, so it's really kind of uncharted territory um, that we're we're doing the best we can to figure things out. And the good thing is uh you know now that the the chaos of this has died down um we're certainly able to uh follow up you know investigate additional things if there are specific incidents uh that need to be looked into regarding the crime scenes. There's some questions around that. Um, so how could MPD secure crime scenes and evidence uh when there's violent interactions between uh uh DHS? So MPD I think I think we were largely successful securing the first scene. Um after that it became increasingly more difficult. Um, you know, there's evidence that we had on the second shooting uh on the north side that I think has made has made a world of difference uh in that case. um you know that that scene was very difficult uh to manage obviously because it became um you know it became um so quickly uh so tense um and ultimately even after BCA MPD the feds we left the scene we wound up having to go back uh because the feds had uh abandoned three of their vehicles some of which uh contained weapons uh so we w up having to return to the scene uh to recover those. The first scene, we were able to convince federal law enforcement to leave uh and to allow us to secure the scene and deal with uh you know, deal with the crowds that were forming and that kind of thing. By the second and the second and third scene was uh increasingly less cooperative. Um and it was complicated. the second scene there was uh you know the the federal law enforcement had surrounded the house uh and there was someone on the phone with 911 in Minneapolis saying that there's somebody shot inside of the house. Uh we were >> Chief I'm going have you just make a pause real quick? >> I'm sorry. >> Would someone like to make a motion >> 15 minutes? >> We like to make sure we abide by agenda time. So second motion 15 minutes. We'll do a voice vote. All those in favor? Any opposed? Any abstensions? Chief. >> Thank you, chair. Um, so by this second scene and you know both the second incident, the first shooting, Miss Good, that occurred uh in the morning hours during a weekday. So there's lots of people that work in law enforcement that are in the city at this time in the evening on the weekend in the morning. Not just MPD, but most most law enforcement agencies typically don't have staffing readily available. There's not a lot of crime that happens early on a Saturday morning, early on a Sunday morning. Um, so both of those scenes it was a it was a true emergency to try and get enough people in both to maintain the integrity of the scene and handle the typical stuff that happens in cities that people need response. Um, and so that that was kind of an added challenge. And initially right when this happened, there was a woman on the phone with 911 uh saying that there was somebody shot inside of the house. Uh, and there were 100 plus federal law enforcement on the scene. Uh, and you know, there wasn't anything near that working on duty for the city at the time in patrol. Uh, and someone was was on the phone with 911 saying that there was a person shot inside and our concern obviously was trying to get aid to that person. But again, it was a it was a complicated situation. Federal law enforcement was there. They have lawful authority. it was their scene. Um, and then the additional complications that would have become of this, the questions that would have been raised afterwards, uh, if we wound up having to be the people to force entry to try and get to a person that we believe is in need of medical aid and then federal law enforcement winds up arresting them as we're trying to get somebody out to the hospital. So, I mean, these were all u just just very complicated and unprecedented scenes. By the third scene, they asked us to leave. Uh they did not want us there. So, um you can see how this evolved and just how complicated this was the entire time. Many people question here. Many people asked why uh MPD didn't arrest the agents who killed Renee Good and Alex Prey uh at the scene. Well, one certainly for Miss Goodene, uh the what we were told was the person who did the shooting wasn't even there. So, that's number one. And number two, obviously in these cases, you need to build evidence. You need to have the evidence. You need to be able to prove that something happened, that this is what happened. Uh and in these situations where you have law enforcement officers uh acting in the official performance of their duties, um it is complicated. You know, we've seen uh we've seen this not play out well in this city. you know, when when a state trooper was involved in a shooting, uh, and there was clearly no issue with with evidence or, you know, the identity of the trooper and that type of thing. It was the same set of laws. It's all Minnesota law. Um, these are increasingly complex situations and it does not mean after the fact that there won't be an arrest. There is investigations that are ongoing. Uh, you know, there is work that the BCA has been doing. the county attorney here has said that she will bring uh she is willing to bring charges. So, it just it's a matter of being able to have evidence uh to prove a case. Uh and that that work often times takes time. Uh and it's uh it's just a it's an incredibly complex situation with the circumstances that we're dealing with. um and what and what can be done in the future uh for incidents involving ICE CBP and DHS. MPD is and will cooperate with any investigation uh that we're provided with. You know, there's been the the three shootings in the city, but minus the three shootings, um we don't have reports of anyone else that was seriously injured in an in an incident. um if people are out there uh you know where where things have happened, we absolutely we can go back to the date and time and there's no shortage of uh video that's available publicly for things that have happened. We can absolutely initiate an investigation. Um but again, these are things that just they require evidence. Um and the MPD is required to follow the law while conducting these. you can skip that one. So, the impacts of the surge. Um, just briefly going over what has happened afterwards. There were about there was 50,000 total calls during the surge. That's the total number of CAD entries. It's about 10% higher uh than what is typical. I think it wound up being roughly about 6,000 additional calls at the time. Um, you know, throughout this thing, there was many times days off were cancelled. So, it's over 1,000 days off that were cancelled from uh sworn members. Over 500 shifts were extended. There were nine officers injured. Uh, I believe we're up to 15 PTSD cases and 11 retirements uh since the first of the year. Um, and a total of 5.2 million both in overtime, these uh and other contractual obligations. So when we extend people's tour, when we change their tour, um when we require people to be on standby to respond back in for the event in event of an emergency, which was through most of this was was a large bulk of people we needed to have available. Um it was a very real concern that we could have a repeat of the destruction of the city in in in 2020. And obviously, you know, the the police department again is just not staffed the way it was in 2020. So all of this uh is compounded by the, you know, the the the lack of staffing that we have to begin with. Um there was a lot of work that happened very intentionally before this and during this uh with the communities who were actually targeted, with the Latino community, with the Somali community. uh a number of meetings that happened between Latino pastors, Somali elders, Somali imams. Uh the Somali community was targeted uh initially in the beginning uh there was a person who wanted to come here and burn a Quran and march through uh Ceda Riverside which ultimately did not happen. Um but there was a lot of interaction between uh members of the Somali community, the Latino community uh and members of the department as well as uh a lot of help from some of the organizers of the the large uh very very large marches and demonstrations that were had here. Um so a lot of cooperative work trying to uh get the city through these and these uh you know then obviously after the fact uh we had uh a couple of our lieutenants worked very hard uh to help the community have a safe space at these scenes where uh vigils could happen. Uh members of the community worked with our officers first on Portland Avenue and then out on Nicollet to try and engage uh people that were coming. um and talk to folks uh so we could develop a safety plan jointly uh that both respected the needs of the residents uh that lived there as well as the folks who wanted to come. Uh we provided 247 security at these sites initially um and then uh you know scaled back as needed over time uh and then coordinated uh you know with the delivery of uh compost bins and other things to help keep the space clean and respectable uh as this continued over time. There were a number of community- based organizations uh that helped us that are not uh you know not working directly with the city or in in other ways just uh different community based organizations that were out there uh trying to help uh assist community members to be able to come uh and do this safely. uh our chaplain, chaplain were out there, crimerevention specialists and other members of uh city departments, other city employees related to this. Um some questions here um regarding dialogue uh with the public. um you know our we had a dialogue team dialogue officers that were out there particularly at the vigil sites but they were also out there um especially around Cedar Riverside uh and some of the the potential for protest and counterprotest where there's potential for violence. Our dialogue officers were out there directly trying to engage with people and deescalate things uh before they happened. Um, and there's even mentioned in one of the questions here about uh, you know, sharing uh, coffee with members of the public at barricades, these types of things. Uh, how MPD might demonstrate more symbolic solidarity with the community in the future. Um, you know, we we are currently trying to build out uh more of our community engagement team. Um, and obviously we've assigned officers specifically uh to these vigil sites. I think they've done uh a great job. Um, you know, we're trying to continue the the the work that we've done specifically with uh some of the elders, the imams, the the Latino pastors uh because I think there has been uh a whole lot of uh relationship building uh that just was not there in the past. And then uh just wrapping up, you know, thank you for the opportunity uh to share our perspective. I think the one final question here was uh what did we learn uh from Metro Surge? You know, there's uh we we could talk about this for a while. There was u it was a constant state of trying to adjust during this thing. Um the response of the police department was not perfect. Uh there's things that we could have done better for sure. Um but I mean the reality is um you know the police department did not become the issue. Uh which certainly could have happened. Um police officers are are are trained and respond to things in a certain you know certain way according to their training. Uh and I think um a lot was done differently than had been done here in the past. how the officers showed up, how the community was engaged, even during a lot of tense situation, relying on uh residents and members of the community to try and help deescalate things. Uh not necessarily showing up uh you know um with you know u you know helmets and things if it wasn't needed at the time. Uh you know it's it's a difficult balance all of these things. But we recognize um really just the intense intense responsibility that that we have in trying to show up in a way that helps uh helps deescalate things and reduces the possibility for harm. So, um, we adjusted many times during this. Um, I am thankful, uh, you know, thankful for all of the help and the support, uh, from people from the community who tried to help us get this through this, uh, and deescalate things as good as possible. But, um, it was really, uh, it was really an unprecedented situation. And and we cannot forget that on the other side, we're listening to one side of things here today, but the other side of this was the beginning of January. Um there was a very real possibility that federal troops might be sent here. Um so we were getting kind of trying to work this balance on both sides to not cause something that could be used as justification uh you know to send federal troops into the city. So, um there's a lot to learn from this and I think we're always willing to try and look at things and improve it. Um but I think largely uh largely the the men and women of the police department uh did did about as good of a job as they could under the circumstances that they were dealt. >> Okay. Thank you. Any commissioner have any questions? Commissioner Baker, >> you mentioned that uh the federal law enforcement have different laws and case laws. Um, you're saying that as if that was not something that was considered when the policy was written. And that's a little surprising because inherent to 9-41 is you would be interacting the duty to intervene in federal I mean two federal agents. And so to fall back on it, well, but their case laws are different. That should have been embedded and thought of when the policy was written. So, um, chair, um, there's three shootings that happened in the city. There were no police officers that were there when the shootings happened. Other than the three shootings, I'm not aware of anyone seriously injured in the city. We have no report of that. And having had something like that happen while a police officer was there. If this happened and somebody is aware of it, they just need to report when it happened and where they will absolutely investigate it. >> The county attorney has 15 such incidences that she mentioned to the city council last week and she had shared that she had not had direct communication with you about it. And I guess I'm a little surprised that over 90 days the two of you have not had direct conversations about 15 cases she's investigating. So, um, the the county attorney has spoken to the community safety commissioner. I have a plan. We're absolutely ready to assist. Um, there are not 15 cases. There's 15 potential cases. >> Okay. >> Um, and we're absolut I'm absolutely uh 100% prepared to provide whatever documentation, evidence, whatever. There should be police reports for those cases. If we believe crimes occurred and we have someone who wants to report it, the Minneapolis police should have police reports. We should have an investigator assigned to investigate it and all that. So, >> one moment, chief. Again, we've come to the end of our time, but we would like to get a few questions in from commissioners. Is there a motion to extend time? >> A motion to extend >> time, please. >> Seconded. >> Is a motion second. All those in favor, please say I. >> I. >> Any opposed? >> Any abstensions? Commissioner Baker. Oh, I'm sorry. Chief, are you used to answering? >> No. Yeah, I I uh the commissioner has directed me that, you know, we have to meet about this first uh before we implement these plans and I'm meeting with him tomorrow. >> Okay. >> I I will hand it over for other people. I'm sure other people also have questions. >> Is there any other questions? >> Commissioner Kennedy and then Commissioner Stewart. >> Chief, thank you for being here. Um, you made a number of points that I think go to the unprecedented nature of what MPD was faced with and different than when uh the policy 9401 and others were developed. Um, I think you were also here for the public comment and one theme that I got from the public comment was that the performance of MPD and the reality of how this played out has put all of the progress made for years and your entire tenure uh kind of on the table because of reaction to this. And so I guess I'm setting that up to ask you my own personal reaction to seeing the development of this policy play out and then how it happened in real time during Metro Surge leads me to question whether we had a meaningful duty to intervene that uh was a possibility to happen. I guess I would like your reaction as to whether you think the policy actually provides uh duty to intervene by your officers. >> Um m Madam Chair, uh yes, again um you know, I would just like to see an example of something that we're talking about where there was an opportunity for an officer to intervene under the circumstances. Just one single example. Um, we absolutely can investigate that. Um, duty to intervene is well established in the state. Before Metro Surge, I think everybody understood what we were talking about. Um, you know, I I I keep going back again. We had these three shootings. There were no police officers present when the shootings happened. Not that that could have made a difference under the circumstances. I'm not saying that either. Um the reports that we have are people that were shoved and that kind of thing. We don't have unlike St. Paul, we don't have a report of someone uh seriously injured, an accusation that there's very serious uh bodily injuries uh that potentially are not consistent with what federal law enforcement was saying. Um, we just don't have a report of that happening to begin with in the city, let alone a report of that happening while there was a police officer present that could have intervened. Beyond that, the things that they do, the stops that they make, there are different laws around how they can stop people. um the Kavanaaugh decision earlier this year like uh it's just they do not operate under the same set of laws that we have in Minnesota, let alone the policies and and trainings that that they have. And we are not uh we have no authority to enforce federal immigration laws and we have no insight into what those those laws are. Commissioner Stewart, >> Chief Hayer, thank you for the update tonight. Um, as as MPD continues discussing immigration policies, officer training, and community engagement, I have a strong curiosity about community engagement and which communities are you truly engaging? Because what I think about the consent decree and what patterns it shows, >> it does include the black community, are you engaging with the black community >> and not just north side black community? Because your black community expands the entire width >> of the city of Minneapolis. So, I'm curious when I see these numbers that say we've deepened countless community relationships, is this strictly directed towards the immigrant communities or is this communities at large? >> Thank you, chair. Uh, thank you. Uh, you know, specific to this event, those are the those are the people that were being targeted. Those are the people where the fear was real. um and that there was specific engagement around the communities that were being targeted here. The larger community engagement uh that happens uh you know there's both the community engagement around policies that they do that I'm certain you're aware of um and the processes that they do that to try and have um as broad a swath of the actual community the actual community having an in an an input on these things. Beyond that, uh most of it is handled uh and driven on a local level uh by the different inspectors that we have, the local uh crime prevention specialists and navigators that are out in the community. Um it is a challenge uh again like everything else while we're trying to triage everything that we're doing. Um but we're, you know, I am open to uh any direction or suggestions that you have uh or anything that you think uh we could do be doing better in general uh with community engagement. But no, I mean a lot of what was happening around this was trying to be targeted, you know, in support of the communities that were being targeted. I have a follow-up statement if you don't mind. Um, so you talk about communities that are being targeted. Let's talk about the communities that are being targeted because the black community is still being targeted to this day by MPD. Um, so I do not want us to get overshadowed by focusing on other communities that are communities of color because when we talk about bipac, black comes first. that B is the first letter in BIPO. So I would hope that your department when you talk about excessive force training, we got there because the black community was targeted and now we have other communities that are being targeted not just by local law enforcement, but by federal law enforcement. Yes, they have different laws, but we're talking about MPD. And how do you guys do your duty to intervene? George Floyd had an opportunity to still be alive had other officers kept their duty to intervene to help him. So, how is that changed on this day? >> Commissioner Bummer. Yeah, I kind of wanted to follow up on the same sort of idea that they're getting at with community engagement. And first of all, thank you for coming here. Uh I was surprised you showed up. You know, additionally, we've seen in your statement here that you've deepened countless community relationships. Public comment today, I think, is very clearly shown that you have not done that and that the community is very upset with you. So, additionally, like how exactly have you deepened these community relationships and to you know their point as well like which communities have you deepened those relationships with? Because it's very clear that the black community does not feel engaged with the police. Is it clear the indigenous community does not feel engaged with the the police? Especially as you are still refused to apologize for making a false statement about Alison Lucer's death. What do you have to say to people? Because you're telling us that you're deepening these countless community relationships and you had two comments here in support of you and the majority of it was against the actions of you and your department. >> Thank you. Thank you. >> Um vice chair. Thank you. Um, again, the comments here tonight were directed towards what you all asked me to come talk about, which was the community that was being affected by uh, immigration enforcement. So, that's what I was talking about. >> So, what do you have to say to the community in regards to their comments that you were here for and you heard? Uh, vice chair, uh, I am here to respond to the the commission's questions. Like that's what this whole thing is about. >> Um, >> but one of your questions is about or one of your answers, I should say, is prioritizing community engagement. >> Yeah. Vice Chair, again, >> point of order. >> Um, >> point of order, please. >> Yes, Commissioner Clement, what's your point of order? Point of order. Getting back on track to the questions that Mara Shanfield had laid out for Chief O'Hara. >> Um yeah, I think this is outside the the um the um topic that was uh on the agenda. Um general community engagement was not on the agenda or not not a topic um for the chief to discuss tonight. Um I understand the the >> I would say in here it says one of our questions is how can you foster more dialogue with the public in general specifically during lengthy major public safety events. >> Yep. So so chair if I may again uh you know we had dialogue officers that were assigned to the vigil sites. We had week after week after week where there thousands of people uh marching as well as other things happening in the background of the city. There were officers that were assigned specifically to engage in several of these cases with the leadership of folks who were holding these marches to ensure that they were safe to go out into the neighborhoods Cedar Riverside other places that spoke with elders that spoke with clergy members that spoke with people who were being targeted during this event. And there were officers that worked around the clock at the vigil sites uh where Miss Miss Good and Mr. Prey was was killed. uh and they did uh you know specifically they were there specifically to engage with people from the community. So I mean this is just this is what we're talking about. How do we >> what steps were taken to ensure that those officers were clearly identified as dialogue officers because generally if someone's at a protest or at a memorial for someone killed by a secret police their first thought is not to go up and talk to a police officer. >> Yeah. So, chair, um, what we did was there were residents that were out there that helped us, especially in the beginning, uh, on Portland Avenue. There were residents that were out there. There was a lot of people that were upset when the police were there initially, uh, trying to help keep the scene, uh, peaceful, you know, ensure that traffic could flow, keep everybody safe. But there were people there specifically um you know that helped initiate conversations that then drew officers in. Uh and there's just you know there's someone else examples >> uh someone else did. Is that what you're saying? >> Commissioner >> I'm trying to respond to your question please. Thank you. >> I'm trying to explain this to you if you would please. like there were people out there, random residents that saw what was happening, that saw people trying to instigate things, trying to rile everybody up. They intervened themselves, the residents, uh, you know, not activists, not people who are being paid to perform and this kind of thing. just people who live in the city that took it upon themselves uh to try and engage and talk to people who were there and explain what was happening and then pulled uh officers in that happened. >> I'm sorry being paid as well as the officers. >> Did you just seriously accuse people being paid? >> Do you want me to finish this or what are we doing? I ask you did you ask can you clarify and I would ask you to ask let him answer the question please cuz we have other commissioners and we have two minutes. Please answer the question. So, there were not people being paid to do that. That's what I'm saying. There are not people that are being paid to do that. >> I don't have anything else. >> One moment. Everyone take a deep breath. >> Deep breath. I have Commissioner Baker and then I have Commissioner Shfield. And Commissioner Baker, we have a couple minutes of Commissioner Champfield. So during the the height of in January, kind of during the depth of the surge, I took three weeks off work to do community dispatch. And during that time, almost every day, one of my patrollers was driven by their own home, had guns pulled on them, were had vehicles to attack them. I called 911 several times trying to figure out if there was a way I could have an officer meet somebody at their home if they were being driven to their own home by ICE. being driven by your own home when they have shot three people for doing two of them for doing that exact same thing um is a death threat. And it took me five or six calls to get basically Yeah, we're not going to do anything about that. That's we don't know that they were doing we don't know that they weren't doing something illegal. Um, there are thousands of people like me who took time away from their daily life to patrol and to dispatch and we feel hung up out to dry and I want to know when the nice next surge happens if you are going to be able to provide any support when they threaten our lives again. >> Yeah. So, chair, um, if you could provide me with an example of the call, uh, that you're talking about, I can pull the information. These things are logged. Like, we can pull through. >> I spoke with Lieutenant Garmin. I can get you the exact date. Um, my patroller potato, I think, was his >> Commissioner, one second. If I could ask you to provide that by email because I want to get to Commissioner Shamfield. Um, just provide the information by email, please. Commissioner Shamfield. >> Chief, did you have anything? >> No. chair. Uh if I just finish real quick, you know, I can't say without looking at, >> you know, what happened and what was going on, but I can tell you, you know, we were getting we can't have the law be different on one side versus the other because there were many times that uh you know, the ICE and the federal law enforcement showed up at the precinct trying to and flagged down cops trying to get us to arrest people because someone was following them on a city street. people can be on city streets and follow people. Um, you know, that's not against the law. Uh, and so, you know, we we can't have one standard one way and and say the law is different on the other. Um, but absolutely, you know, if uh you provide the information, I'll look into it. We can have a conversation, whatever you'd like. Uh, you know, happy to talk about it further. >> I'll reach out. Thank you. >> Thank you. Commissioner Chef will be the last question and as Thank you. >> Okay. Thank you. It just feels like an elephant in the room. Thank you, uh, Chief. Uh, that you have you said that you've handled over 50,000 calls and the responses that we received said that there were 23 reports of ICE. That those numbers don't seem um to match the experience that we had um as residents, as people who were making phone calls, etc. Can you explain a little bit more about the 23 calls you got and um perhaps there's some more information we can provide later? So chair um th those are not the total number of calls um you know the total number of calls is much greater um they're not so when MECC separate from the police department when they receive these calls uh they have their own u you know matrix how they you know classify things. So these calls, there was a surge in calls at least 10% more than what's typical and they're not all uh like classified, you know, a specific way. So we would get calls about suspicious vehicles. We would get calls about suspicious people. We would calls that sometimes were specifically saying this is ICE, uh you know, and and you know, ICE is president this place and and those kinds of things. um it's not particularly easy for MECC to identify and pull out all of the calls related to that. So that that 23 is a sample of police reports uh that were filed that relate to this. Uh I think the overwhelming majority of reports uh that were filed were filed uh by police officers who had to respond to incidents after the fact um because there was a requirement in the last policy revision that we did that everybody who goes uh to these these scenes has to has to do that. So, um it's just it's not that easy to identify every single call to 911 that's related to this because there just there is a very very wide variety of calls that were that were caused by this. >> Quick followup. Is there information that civilians can provide when we do make those calls that would make it easier to identify? >> Chair, uh if you could just give me a little bit more what you're asking. uh is there any information that the co the calls that come into you should include that would make it easier then to categorize and identify and follow up on. >> So we encou chair we encourage people to call um you anytime they think uh you know that there there may be an issue um with safety but in general I think um you know there were a number of calls for people who were not sure if uh someone was actually law enforcement. So, I mean, I think that would be the same with any other potential crime in progress. License plates, descriptions, uh, direction of flight, uh, descriptions of people, all of those, uh, types of descriptive details that are helpful anytime that there's a potential crime because there were, uh, some of these calls during this were not related. Uh, there were times where we have calls, people with masks, potentially with gums. it was a crime in progress, you know, because the city still has things that happen in cities happening. Um, so it's just uh it's difficult to t, you know, try and parse out all of these things. >> All right. Thank you very much, Chief. We appreciate you coming uh to speak to us today. Um, I'll ask the clerk to receive and file that report. Uh, next we have a report from the office of police conduct review given by associate director Russell Fujisawa. And we have allocated 15 minutes for that report. Thank you. >> Thank you. Good evening. Uh I'm Russell Fisawa, the associate director of the office of police conduct review. Um just looking quickly through our agenda. We have a lot to cover actually this update. we because we are including an annual recap of 2025 activities in the office of police conduct review. So we'll take a look at uh intake investigations over the course of the year, our full administrative investigations as well as our review panel data. Um and then we'll close off with a quick recap of intake through January and February this year um so far, which will touch on some of the federal activity that we observed and that was previously discussed. Just as always, a a refresher on the Office of Police Conduct Review. Our task is to handle uh receive and investigate community-based complaints of police misconduct um with the Minneapolis Police Department. Um we have, you know, a number of requirements as outlined by the settlement agreement as well as the consent decree um that guides our timelines, our thoroughess, um and generally our our work process. Uh it's always worth revisiting our our organizational structure because this is one of the um one of the most important uh accomplishments that the office of police conduct review has navigated and um and completed in the course of uh the last year, specifically in 2025. um in terms of establishing that middle level level of supervisor um division of labor between intake as well as administrative investigations and then obviously establishing the policy and research unit um to leverage all of the new case data and information that we are gleaning from our work um to provide more proactive policy recommendations, training recommendations, and just to have a better um ability to analyze and report out on the the complaints and the investigations that our office handles. Um, as I discussed, uh, just taking a brief look at some of the accomplishments of 2025, these are really, um, three crucial ones. Um, as I discussed, the restructuring of OPCR really helped to, um, make the office more responsive to the work. Um, as you may know and as we've discussed, the settlement agreement has a a vast number of requirements outlined in section 10, the accountability section. as it relates to the requirements um the thoroughess, the timeliness, um the fairness, the transparency of our investigations into police misconduct, as well as establishing clear um delineation between the work of OPCR, which I said, um again, uh handles community based complaints versus internal affairs, which handles complaints that come from within the police department or city employees. Um I I also want to take a look at some uh metric specific accomplishments that we've made. Um I I know that the backlog was a significant portion of our updates and our discussions over the past year. Um you can see here that we've replaced uh we've reduced the complaint intake age of a case and the average age of a case from 491 days down to 139. Obviously, this is still not compliant with the settlement agreement, but to to cut down that number that quickly um and that significantly is a testament to the work um the staffing, the training um and everything that's been put in place in the last year um within OPCR. You can also see that the uh administrative investigation time um the average has cut down from 312 days to 145. I I do want to note this is the investigative time. This is not the life of the complaint which is the requirement with the settlement agreement but we are well positioned and um and you can see that you know if we are able to work through an investigation from assignment date to completion within OPCR in 145 days that positions us very well um for for future compliance and just having a um a much better handle on the capacity of the work that this office is tasked with. Um just a very brief review. Our intake phase of an investigation. After receipt of complaint, our office has 3 days um from receipt of complaint to establish a case number and we have 7 days to communicate to that complainant if known. Um because we do allow complaints to be submitted anonymously. Um but 7 days to communicate that case number to an individual complainant. That case number can be used um to to look up the status of the investigation and whether or not it is assigned to an investigator within our office. It's really helpful um knowing the volume and knowing the process to to take a quick look at um comparisons between 2024 and 2025 in terms of the volume of contacts that our office had. Um, as discussed previously, contacts are um all of the the touch points that our office has with members of the public. Of those contacts, there is a subset of of uh contacts that we categorize as complaints that allege misconduct against an MPD officer. The remaining touch points we classify as inquiries. Um this can be anything from you know asking about the status of your case um you know potentially asking about questions um about OPCR process and sometimes we have questions that are not even re relevant to OPCR work civil rights work um and it's often a referral out to another either department of the city or just to another resource um but I do want to draw your attention to the numbers um specifically looking at the total number of inquiries that has doubled from 2024 to 2025. We continue to see an upward trend of those contacts. Um, excuse me, of those inquiries and complaintants has nearly d nearly doubled as well. Um, so our office continues to handle a large volume of of contacts um and inquiry or complaint. These all require scrutiny, time um and diligence in terms of reviewing and um confirming that whether or not there is alleged misconduct um or if there is another agency that needs to be referred on. Again, just taking at the look at the trends um the month-to-month trends um from January to December of 2025, you can see a general upward trajectory of both complaints um and inquiries with our office. I I will say that a significant number of inquiries that you're seeing especially in the fourth quarter of 2025 um were coming from a small number of um high volume um contacts. So we had a a and I've discussed this before previous CCPO meetings, but we have a large volume of contacts coming from a few individuals over the course of a month. Um I'm not a mental health professional. We have some uh individuals on our team with mental health background um and did identify that this was um fueling a number of the inquiries that we saw over the the last quarter of the year. Um so you know again because we have the settlement agreement requirements, the consent decree requirements because we are trying to be thorough and transparent and reviewing every contact that we have. Um these take time and to parse through uh the complaints, the content, the context. Um all of this requires a lot of staff time and um I'm really proud and impressed of the work that we're doing as you'll see in a bit when we talk about the February and January numbers and and the progress that intake is making. Um it is really astounding in in the face of the number of of contacts that they handle on a daily basis. Um this is just another another graph that highlights the the efficiency with which our intake team is able to handle these complaints and you can see the average age um and just that significant downward trajectory over the course of the year. Obviously staffing helps with this but also putting in place the SOP the standard operating procedures um that really outline the step-by-step process of an intake investigation as well as our administrative investigations. But really training up the staff on this, having them get comfortable with this. Making sure that we're, you know, conducting intake interviews with complainants so that we have a full scope of the information and of the complaint. Um, in context of the alleged conduct with review of body warn camera evidence, vehicle evidence, anything that is at our disposal through MPD systems or not, um, to really draw a full picture to be able to make a fully informed decision um, to determine what to do with that case. Uh you can see that in December we averaged about 12 days per intake investigation. Um and the average age of the complaint you can see is going from you know over 400 days to down to around 140. Moving on to our administrative investigations. So for those intake cases that there is identified um or we believe to be uh verified misconduct, those investigations are referred to our administrative investigations team to do a deeper dive into the conduct. Um a full review of the evidence, but then conducting officer interviews um and and that includes witness and focus officers. So, um, giving opportunities to to witness officers and the focus officer to recount the information, the interaction, whatever that that case may be focused on. Um, again, this is doing a we're doing a greater service to both community members and officers in catching up and working through the backlog because the ability to to recall details that were happening in 2023, 24 or even prior is a near impossible task both for complainants and officers. So the closer that we can get to caught up um as we have completed the work on the investigative backlog but we need still need to get current to complaints that we receive um you know in real time. Um this will just do a greater service to the investigations to the ability to recall um to to really um be able to provide a full recount and a credible recount of the evidence of the events. Um, taking a look at uh just sort of a year-end review of the investigations in our office. Again, I want to draw your attention to the average age of complaint. Um, you know, it's it in in the beginning of the year of 2025, we were sitting around, you know, a three-year just a little under three years for the age of the investigation. Um, closing out the year, it was still around 2 years. Um but that trajectory a and being able to staff up as quickly as we did um and catch up on those investigations and complete the investigative work on the backlog was a you know a feat that I don't think many um believed could happen as quickly. Um but we still have our work cut out for us obviously. Um I I know Linda has presented on some of the review panel work uh that was done in late 24 all the way through 2025 but u the review panels are obviously a critical tool in the misconduct investigation process. Um we have a composition of two commissioners as well as one MPD member sworn member of the rank of lieutenant or higher that sits on review panels for cases both from internal affairs and OPCR. they review to provide recommendations on merit and potential discipline. Um over the course of 2025, we um we reviewed uh the review panels reviewed five times as many cases um 105 as were reviewed in 2024, which is 21. Um again, that's that really speaks to the work and time that commissioners and sworn have put into the process. Um, but it also speaks to Lolinda Jang and the policy and research uh team's efforts to standardize the process to create and support the the creation of a schedule of consistent um reliable review panels that are staffed by OPCR um that have a consistent case flow um and have you know both the city attorney as well as the investigative leads uh available for um on call questioning that may help the process along. Um the last piece that I want to discuss is specifically the formation of that policy and research unit and some of the work products that have come out. Um as I discussed and as Lolinda has presented previously on the review panel recommendations report um you know this is just not some we did not have a body of evidence significant enough to put out findings previously on review panel recommendations. um you know as we've reviewed 105 cases in 2025 you know we have a significant body of evidence and it continues to grow of recommendations that we see coming out of the review panel. Um so as you could see uh nearly half of the allegations were recommended to have merit. Um of those 32% were roughly recommended uh were accompanied by recommended discipline. um and roughly 61% of the allegations were recommended to have no merit. Um this just was not data that was coming out um any time prior to the formation of the policy and research unit, nor do I think there was a capacity to do so. So um really impressed by this as well as the the recommendations provided on the sexual misconduct policy. Um we met with the MPD implementation unit had a very good conversation about you know a gap that we had identified. Um there was full acknowledgement that this was not an explicit requirement in the settlement agreement or the consent decree um but an acknowledged priority that it needed to be a drafted policy. I know MPDIU is in the process of drafting this policy ahead of schedule um and and outside of department requirements and settlement agreement requirements. Um so we're really thrilled uh by that and the partnership there. Um, and again, the fact that this was a gap that was identified by a newly formed team that just did not exist um, a little over a year ago. Um, moving quickly on, I just want to take a quick look at uh, this is just again the yeartoate uh, intake statistics. You can see that the the the trend is still upwards of both complaints and inquiries. Um unsurprisingly uh just with the trends that we were seeing at the end of last year and then with the federal presence at the beginning of this year. >> Okay. You still got more. >> There's I can be quick. >> That's right. Can we get a motion to extend for a few minutes from someone? >> Motion to extend 10 minutes. >> Second. >> Is there a second? >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I Any opposed? We'll make it quick. Any obstensions? Go ahead, chief. Uh, director, can I make an appointment? >> This will be very quick. I just want to take a look at >> Are we going to try to get through the entire agenda tonight? >> Okay, go ahead. >> I'll I'll be quick here. Um, because I I I think this is something of interest to the commission as well as the public. Just providing here a breakdown of complaints in January and February. Um and we've broken it down in complaints um that are ICE related and nonicereated as well as our inquiries um you know highlighting both the high volume inquiries that we've seen. So from the small number of individuals that have consistent or recurring contact and then we also have ICE and non ice related inquiries. Um so you can see that these uh obviously in terms of complaints they comprise of nearly half of the complaints we received in January. Um so you can just see the impact that it has had on our office as well. Um and then finally um again just for January and February months we just have disposition outcomes for those intake cases and the complaints that we had in those months. And you can see a breakdown between um you know the different routing options that are that our intake process uh results in. So coaching, a dismissal, a referral to another agency um or a full administrative investigation. And um so for any referral to another agency that that can be um you know a county agency, another municipality, another police department or even another city department. Um it could be traffic control, animal control, etc. Um and that that is everything we have for this evening. So any questions? >> Thank you, uh director. My question is you identified almost half of the number of of complaints that came through in January as being ICE related. Is that information shared with the chief? because there seems to be if we have a number here a number of complaints and he's not looking seeing a different number how are you guys making sure they get the information if people don't want to call the police for example or they 911 didn't answer or whatever reason >> and and so complaints that the chief would be referring to I think they're different in nature compared to the complaints that were receive misconduct complaints versus um you know something that's being reported to 911 or um so those numbers wouldn't necessarily match up or be one to one. >> No, I'm not expecting them to match up. What I'm saying is misconduct could be any number of things including a potential crime that's committed, right? Um based on what we've seen in previous panels. So what I'm asking is is that information shared with the chief aggregate or or whatever. this is what we're hearing from complaints coming from the community because again if some folks are not able to get through the 911 there may be a reason they call you right and say we don't know the nature of what those those inquiries were just saying it might be helpful to share that with him and say hey we've gotten these complaints and they look like this five different topics just that you're aware so that there is some some uh continuity between that >> yes understood and there is definitely information sharing about the nature of complaints that we receive if there were to be a complaint that we felt necessary to escalate to the chief's office or to the implementation unit um to address a policy gap, a training gap, etc. We have one, we have processes to do processes to do so and two, we would take that initiative as an office. >> Any questions? >> Commissioner Stewart, >> I don't have a question. I just have a comment. And my comment is thank you to you for your work and your support of our body and for your team for their support of our work that we do because it clearly being on this commission for a year now it clearly shows that it's it's an added value. So thank you. >> Thank you. >> Concur. Any other Commissioner Palmer? >> Yeah. Regarding the uh ICE inquiries and complaints, are you able to give like what the nature of those complaints are? And specifically, is this regarding MPD collusion with ICE? Is it entirely uninvolved MPD and someone just called you about ICE instead? Are you able to give that information? >> Generally, because of the Minnesota Government Data Practice Act, we are not permitted to share that information. I I will confirm with the city attorney's office, but generally we are not able to disclose that information, >> right? But once it gets to uh if it ever reaches the final discipline stage, there can be more facts that come out then. >> Thank you. >> Anyone else? >> I would just ask to make sure the chief sees whatever it is that he can see now just so that he can understand where the the public is coming from regards if he does anything with it. It'd be just nice for him to have that information irregardless if it extends to a serious misconduct. I think it's good to have. Thank you. And we appreciate the public use the processes available to them to be heard. All right. I will ask the clerk to receive and file that report. Next up, we have a report from the Minneapolis Police Department's Internal Affairs Division given by Lily Hastings. And the report is 15 minutes allocated. All right. Good evening, commissioners. I'm going to start with a thank you for being here on quite a long night. I am hoping to get through my presentation as best I can without having to extend any time um as to not cause any further delay for uh you all tonight this evening. So I'm going to make it quick. If you have questions, please let me know um you know of course at the end. Uh so tonight we are going to go over um a little bit of an IIA overview since it's a new year and this is our first presentation of 2026. Um we're going to do our regular kind of staffing updates. We're going to do a quick highlight on training. Uh we're going to do a highlight on our historical backlog. Um and then we are going to do uh statistics and trends. Um I know many of you have seen me here for close to two years now, whether it was on the OPCR side or IIA side. Um but what you will notice is different about this uh month's report is a very very large increase in data and statistics um for our internal affairs unit. Uh so I look forward to sharing that with you tonight. Um but moving forward on that again as we have promised previously the more the data becomes available to us the more staffing that we have to report on data the more data that we will continue to report to this board. All right so moving on to internal affairs um our jurisdiction is to investigate internal complaints. Internal complaints um specifically are complaints that are made by MPD employees uh regardless of if they are a sworn officer or if they are a civilian non-sworn employee. Um it also includes complaints that are made by city of Minneapolis employees. So for instance um a city council member could make a complaint and that'll come through internal affairs. Um a city attorney could make a complaint or see something in their case file and make a referral to internal affairs. Uh so those are two main sources and then our third source is what we call MPD internally generated complaints. These are complaints that stem from the various different committees that are housed in MPD that are tasked with reviewing um MPD's conduct. So for example um we take cases from the pursuit review committee, the accident review committee, um the force investigation team. Uh we take cases um that we as internal affairs call compliance checks. Um but typically uh they're known elsewhere through the unit of internal reviews um or audits um such as a BWC audit, a bodywn camera audit. Um and then we also take cases uh from the quarterly review panel uh which is a new newer requirement to MPD. I believe it was from the settlement agreement and the consent decree. Um, another thing that we wanted to show, um, that I don't think that we have really thoroughly explained through my entire life of presenting internal affairs to this commission is what our workload looks like beyond just misconduct investigations. Um, so we have four kind of main groupings um, is what we're starting to kind of develop out. So we have a first grouping that's called notifications and callouts. This includes um duty to report notifications um as we have talked uh heavily about this evening. Uh so duty to report notifications uh come into our internal affairs office. Um and we are required to staff a line 247. Um so this is largely dependent on our IIA commander and our IIA lieutenant to respond to these calls. Um but depending on the severity of this call, uh it can increase the workload um down to the rest of our staff. We do also have critical incidents. So critical incidents define an MPD policy. I believe it's 7 um 7-810. Um IA is responsible for responding to critical incidents that occur within the city of Minneapolis or with City of Minneapolis employees. Um that is also a 247 hour coverage. So, if a critical incident occurs at 3:00 a.m., we are coming in at 3:00 a.m. uh to ensure that that critical incident is handled properly. Uh we also do uh what's called chain of command notifications. What this means is if we get a case and I get something today um you know from an MPD employee and they are alleging serious egregious misconduct, uh we automatically report that all the way up through our chain of command all the way up to the chief. uh we do so in support with OPCR as well that if they do need something to elevate up to the chief's office uh we assist with that as well. The next branch is the branch that you are very familiar with which is our investigative branch. Um this is our general IIA case. Um this can also include duty to report notifications that contain misconduct that basically generate then into a case. Um and then we also have a variety of different reporting mechanisms that are um that we need to do within this branch. We have to report to our early intervention system in MPD. Um there's a variety of different things that we would need to report to them and health and wellness. Um things that uh potentially threaten officer safety um or involve a wellness related issue or just general performance concerns. And we do also have um state laws that require us to uh report to the Minnesota postboard as well on a variety of u misconduct cases for internal affairs. Given that most of our cases are about use of force and pursuit driving, this results in almost all of our cases needing to be reported to the Minnesota Post board uh from the Minnesota uh state statutes. The third branch that we have here is regarding data requests. Um, so we do uh a a unique thing that people typically don't anticipate that an internal affairs unit does is we do award reviews. Um, anytime an MPD employee is nominated for an award, uh, what we do, um, it it goes through a different awards committee. When the awards committee is done with it, they will bring it over into internal affairs and we will screen for any possible uh complaints or complaint history on that individual um including any sustained allegations um patterns of behavior that might be contrary to what this award um the emission of this award is trying to do. Um and then we will make recommendations to the chief on whether or not someone should receive that award. Uh we also do blue card reviews. Um these come from all over MPD. A blue card is what we call the um employees complaint history card. Um it can we have both a public and a non-public version. Um and it complains um contains a complete history um where someone has been named as a focus employee in a case. Uh we get a very very large amount of blue card reviews um and requests to review blue cards pretty well every week. Um I believe when I asked our admin support staff to count last week, just last week alone, we received a hundred different blue card requests all across MPD. Uh typically we receive these requests when people are trying to get promotions um special duty um if they are trying to get a special assignment such as the SWAT team um and again for awards, anything like that. We also respond to data requests and audits as well. Um those ones I'm not going to go too deep into tonight, but just know that they are there as well. And then we have this last bucket called other management. Uh these are the misfits of where we just don't know quite to categorize them. Uh so what we have here are basically temporary projects that when they come up, they take all of our time. They are number one priority. So the first bucket being um ROD. What this is is actually called relieve of duty. Uh, an instance of this occurring would be if an officer is alleged to have committed serious egregious misconduct. Um, and so much so that they need to be immediately relieved from duty. Meaning we need to take them home um, collect any of their equipment from them and put them on an assignment at home through the um, duration of a misconduct investigation. Again, this requires 24hour or 247 staffing from our office to do this at any given moment. Uh we do also do training. Uh so our internal affairs department trains our um academy on internal affairs procedures. Uh we train our recruits, our cadetses, um our csos, our laterals, and our new supervisors on internal affairs procedures. Um and then we also have limited duty. It's a variety of uh relieved of duty where um basically we put someone on a desk. So, these are are very high priority projects that tend to take up time away from our investigations. Um, I'm not going to go over too much about this slide, but just kind of giving a breakdown of how much um weight this puts on our staff at any given point, where our priority levels are. Um, if you do have questions on this, I would encourage you to ask um and submit questions that we can work on answering for the next report. Um, a couple more updates on staffing. Um, in January, uh, we received a new IIA commander. Uh, we also received a new IIA sergeant, uh, this month or last month in February. And then the last thing is we have a, uh, civilian nonsworn case investigator position that has been vacant since the end of January. Um, but we are currently in the hiring process to fill this position. Uh, a couple other things here. I know that you have heard us say this multiple times, multiple months. Um, but we just want to continue to highlight uh that we are uh severely at a high risk for staffing issues with our supervisors and internal affairs. Uh we are looking into recommendations. uh we have been proposing these uh for several months and simply trying to um get the same amount of resources that OPCR was given as well to have different um supervisors that are very specific to the role that they need to accomplish. Another issue that we want to highlight is expedited dispositions. I know previously you've heard us talk about these cases. Um, but what you haven't heard is in internal affairs, we don't have any staff that are solely dedicated to working on expedited dispositions. Uh, what that does is it takes our staff away from their intake assignments or their admin investigation assignments to work on these cases in order to get them done in our very quick timeline, which is typically about 30 cases while we move forward. So what that does unfortunately is it impacts our uh timelines in intake and it impacts our timelines in admin investigation. Um so again our recommendation is that we would really like to have staff that solely focus on expedited dispositions in our office. Moving forward to a very very quick update on training. Uh in the last couple months you've heard us talk about an RFP um to help us build out a misconduct investigator training plan. Uh our vendor has been selected um and it is idea analytics and we anticipate us working with the group within the next few months um to start on our journey of creating this uh 2027 uh misconduct investigator training. Moving forward to our backlog. Um so our definition of a backlog and I just want to remind people that our definitions between IIA and OPCR are different. Uh so IA's definition is that uh any case that was 180 calendar days old as of AIFA start date of 317 2024. So the graph on the left uh was one that was in a recent AIFA report uh the 515 2025 and the graph on the right is our current snapshot. Uh what we want to be doing our goal is to move to the far right two columns. So the chief decisions rendered and other closure um dispositions. These are cases that are actually closed. Um so the cases in the far left so pending investigation uh supervisory re review panel and chief's office and grievance status are cases that are still open in those variety of stages. So we would like um the goal is to move them from the left all the way to the right. So, a couple of our key takeaways. Um, cases still pending completion of investigation have decreased eight cases uh since the 515 snapshot. Uh, leaving only three historical backlog cases that are pending completion of investigation. Uh, one of those three is a case that is an open investigation. Uh one of the other three um is an external investigator case meaning internal affairs uh does not conduct the investigation for this case. We just house uh the investigation data. So it appears on that blue card uh the employee complaint history that we were talking about earlier. And then the last of these cases is a remanded investigation meaning that the investigation was completed. It went through a review panel. it went up to chief's office and it was returned to internal affairs for further investigation. Uh we have also increased closure categories by 37 total cases which is up 16% uh from that 515 2025 uh numbers that were provided in an AIFA report. Uh so uh as of right now 120 of our 213 historical backlog cases are in a closure status uh which equates to about 56% uh being closed. All right, moving forward onto our intake unit. Um the left here is the numbers from our last time that we were at CCPO in November. Um and the right in green is our current day um statistics. So uh current day we have 42 complaints that are currently in our intake queue. Uh 25 of them are under 30 days. Uh so they are called compliant and there are 17 cases that are outside of compliance meaning that they are above 30 days. Uh year to date so far we have received 42 complaints um in internal affairs. Down below we have aggregate 2025 data. Um so average days that a case uh remains unassigned in intake, meaning from the day that we get it and we're told about it to the day that we tell the intake this is your case. So sorry. >> Two minutes. >> Mhm. >> We'll make an executive decision. Go ahead. >> Okay. Thank you. I'm trying my best to get through it. Um so right now we're at six days uh and we need to get it down to three days for our settlement agreement requirement. Um the average length then from the day that the intake investigator is told this is your case to the day that that case is uh completed through intake meaning our 3401 uh for those of you that sat on a review panel our uh routing document is signed. Um that is 26 days. Um and we have up to 30 days. The reason I say up to 30 is because it's largely dependent on how quickly we can get that case assigned. Um and then average length from start to finish from when we get that case to when we get it to um completed routing is uh 32 days and we need to bring it down to 30 days. Beneath that we do have some data on our intake investigators on how quickly they are getting through their cases. Um and we are happy to report that from their assignment um all three of our intake investigators are well uh below the 30 days. So we're working on trying to decrease that even further. Uh we also provided some year-to-ate incoming complaints uh so that you can start to work on analyzing this and we can do the same. Uh so this year we do have at least a little bit of an increase um in complaints that our office is receiving compared to last year. Um but we will continue to update this in the coming months so that we can see if it's really a trend or potentially a outlier. Uh furthermore, we've done 2025 incoming cases per per month by complaint source. Uh one of the things I want to highlight here is you will see a large amount uh like chunks of cases meaning cases come in at 10 at one time or 12 at one time or 18 at one time. Um, we are working on trying to analyze some key takeaways and working with our MPD partners on how to avoid this in the future so that it doesn't impact our timeline so heavily. >> Uh, we've also started this same information for the uh, 2026 as well. Uh, another um, intake data that we have provided is um, a table here on the left is the actual incident date. The middle column is how many complaints are received with that incident date and the right is how many um or when that actual complaint is received. Mo the majority of our cases uh get received kind of within six months of that incident date. But we do still have plenty of outliers uh for example the first one listed here from 2021 uh that did not get referred to us until February 2026. >> So Miss Hastings I'm looking at the you have several more looking at our time. So I would ask if it's okay with you if the commissioners just review it. If they have any questions, they can just send the questions over to you. >> Absolutely. >> And then the members of the public as well. Does that work for everyone? >> Okay. Thank you. Appreciate you. In the interest of time, the captions are only here for about 30 more minutes. So we want to make sure we have quite a long agenda that we're not going to be able to get through today. But I want to give um uh the implementation unit the opportunity to present. They've been sitting here so patiently for two and a half hours. >> Commander Wils, are you going to be doing the report? >> I'm actually the commander over now. >> Oh, when did that happen? >> Hey, I didn't even know that. >> Come on. Come on up. >> I They didn't tell me. What the heck? >> No, I see him. >> Go ahead. Thank you. >> Hello. I'm uh Commander Robinson uh formerly Lieutenant Robinson. Um I know most of you and uh I'll keep it pretty short, but um over the last year and a half I've been working with uh Commander Wils in the implementation unit um working on the settlement agreement and uh it's been awesome and uh I'm excited to keep pushing forward here. So um I'll save you my background and let's uh give my report. That's somebody else's. Hold on here. All right. I might have uploaded a wrong one here. Let's see here. Yeah, I think so. >> I can I can roll with it. It's fine. >> Point of order. >> That's fine. I can do some of the slides. >> Point of order. Chair, could I just direct people's um attention to the last page of Lily's report while we're waiting? um it's right before the imple implementation unit. So it looks like this and it says the all of the numbers of the cases that have gone to posted from final to final disposition. So I'd encourage people to look if those are cases you've sat on to take a look. Um that's how we can close the loop on our feedback loop. Well, I can just roll with it if that's okay. So uh yeah. So, uh, previous three requests, um, back in November, you guys asked the what the timeline was, uh, for training and policy. Um, so it really depends on the policy. Some policies are just one page and some are almost 100 pages if not over that. Um, so it really depends on that. Um, so for instance, our policies, um, you guys should know the, uh, the kind of the pathway here, but we start with internal drafting. Um then we move to technical assistance. So we send that off to Alifa and they look at it and determine okay there looks like this is in line with uh the settlement agreement requirements. Keep going. Um then it goes to the feedback stage. So we post it for community feedback. Um 30 days um for uh non- big bucket items like use of force is going to be 45 days. Non uh discriminatory policing that's going to be um 45 days. Mission vision value is 45 days. Force 45 days. Um what the chief wanted um what we've been trying to do as well is give you guys extra time even if it's just a week um to review these policies because we know you guys volunteer uh your time and it doesn't always work. So um even just a couple extra days where you guys can give um your feedback um really helps. Um so after the workshop or so after the feedback stage um it goes to workshopping um MDHR AIFA the city attorney um uh internal affairs some subject matter experts um are called in and we we go over the policy and we just try to make it the best we can based off community feedback and officers feedback and obviously the guidance of the settlement agreement. Um we also have there have been some mentions of the consent decree. Um we try to fit things in when we can but it's not always possible. Um there's a lot of overlap um but uh we're primarily focused with the settlement but we are still trying to do the best we can with the uh the consent decree because we only have so many people all the same people are working on both um so we have basically merged the documents but um yeah so that's kind of the process w with that um after that uh after the workshopping we send it to uh Alifa and MHR for approval and uh then we get it back and then we start uh working on training And that's where it goes into what your question was. Um, so just like policy, it's the same steps. So a lot of people don't understand that we actually have to get our and and officers have the same problem too. They don't understand why sometimes this policies put out, but you know what's taking training so long? Why haven't I trained on this? Um, it's the same thing. We have to draft the training. Um, we have to find people to even teach the training. Um, we uh have to ask for technical assistance. Um uh and then uh we workshop it with uh Alifa, the city attorney, MDHR and make sure that we have the best um training available and then we have to send that off to approvals. Um and then we work on training the entire department which is sometimes hundreds of people and sometimes it's only a few. It kind of really depends on the policy, the training and who needs to be trained. You know, like the force policies, 3 days of training, you're scheduling multiple shifts the entire city. Um, but you might have um canine training and that might be only be given to the canine operators. So, it's going to be like five people. So, it's a lot that can be a lot quicker. Uh, community engagement. Uh, we're trying to do uh create an intern or external uh newsletter so we can kind of give updates to the community and put it out there. It's one of the things that we're kind of working in the background. Um, we're also working on scheduling our uh community engagement center or uh uh community engagement follow-up sessions. Um, we have a big one that's generally open to all the public. Um, that one's we're looking on putting that one on July. Um, we don't have a a date picked yet, but that's the month. Um, our community engagement team was hit pretty hard. We had a a manager that quit. Um, we had some other people left uh leave for other uh job opportunities. Um, so we've had a lot of fluctuations there. Um, so we just have a community specialist right now. Um, we're looking to hire and we do have a manager that's uh being interviewed uh right now. So hopefully we can beef that up. Oh, there you go. Thank you. Uh, officer wellness and support. Uh, so the city uh we have uh wellness that fits with with which is a healthcare provider. Um, uh, they're they've been hired for a three-year contract. They're a vendor that specialize uh working with law enforcement. They also work with a lot of veterans. There's a different type of trauma that we experience because we respond to just sometimes just horrible things. Um and so it kind of takes um some kind of somebody else that's skilled sometimes a little different than other uh therapists. Um some of the policies related to officer health and wellness um officer uh health and wellness policy um was approved. the health and safety policy was approved and along with the EIS policy and I'm talking too slow too uh fastest you can tell me to slow down. Um the policy and uh resource hub um we mentioned that a few times that was uh uh put out. It's a big project. Um it's it's been really beneficial to the officers because of all these new policies. We can actually it's just like Google. So you can search u keywords uh the policies pop up and you can filter to other keywords just kind of narrow it down. and you can put favorites in. Um it's also a big help to the public too with all these policies. Um cuz the public doesn't always know the words to search, what to search, and so just having a tool that just works better um is just better for everybody. Um, so rather than searching a PDF and you can't find what you're looking for, um, some policies that uh, uh, have recently been approved, uh, body warrant camera, incar camera, um, the data data management portion of that, officer wellness, uh, peer support, uh, the quarterly review panel, uh, early intervention. Um, as you all know, you can give your feedback on any of our policies. um it's just not all of them are going to be in that feedback stage. If they are in that feedback stage, it means we're going to be actively working on it. And then the plan is once um the the policy gets approved, the department gets trained, we're going to revisit that policy within a year uh ideally and look at all the feedback that's been submitted throughout the year and see on what see what we can improve on and also look at how our officers are performing. If we're doing something that doesn't make sense, we might want to change it. Um, another one that's not on here is uh uh stop search and arrest uh or stop search citation and arrest. Um, a big section of that policy or that section of policies uh was approved. So, it's there's multiple sections to that policy. Um, so 9-100 and 9-200 were approved by AIFA recently. Um, so we can take those uh that policy, those policies and uh start working on training for those. um the other portions are uh they're related but unrelated so we can hold off on training those and get eventually get those approved but um start getting this the ball rolling get people trained because that's what we want. Um and but some of the things that sometimes are confusing for people is we say okay I got stop search and arrest policy approved what does that mean that's just one policy um just that section of policies that was 9-100 9-200 is 79 pages so it can be a lot um see here uh some of our current goals um as mentioned uh the stop search and citations and arrests we're working on getting the rest of those approved uh the misconducts uh misconduct policies uh discipline matrix um uh the FTO training uh we're working on um that's uh hopefully close to uh final submission to weo for approval. Uh so this is just kind of a snapshot of all all the things that we're working on in the unit currently. um critical incident policy, engaging with minors, social uh social media and use in investigations, foot pursuits, uh field training officer policy, supervisor duties. Those are all policies that we're working on. And we only have a few policy writers that have to work on all this stuff. And uh just to touch on uh the immigration stuff, we actually had to work on the immigration stuff to uh the immigration policy, you know, because we use the same policy writers. So, um it's it's a big burden because we had to stop everything we're doing to work on this policy that's really important to uh the community. Um I can touch on some of the other stuff too. Um training and development uh the body warning camera um policy incar camera policy that was approved by so we're working on developing training for that. um CIT training um for uh dispatchers because a lot of times um that's the first the first well that's going to be the first call is somebody calling for help and sometimes it's actually the person in crisis. It's not always like a family member or something like that. Um and even when it is just a family member, it's nice to have somebody that's that knows how to uh talk somebody down and deescalate a situation just even over the phone. Um so that's kind of the idea behind that. um EIS, um stop certation arrest, all these we're going to be working on. And then the approved policies at the end there um crisis intervention refresher training. Um uh it's it's a refresher for officers who've already had the training. And so we've incorporated uh things from the settlement agreement in that training for officers that have already had the training. Uh data systems. Uh we had a RFP posted um for the data augmentation um publish RFIs for the data monitoriization um and also uh the record management system for the police department. We're looking at uh we put an RFI out for that and uh that's another thing that people don't think about is how officers file their reports and the systems that they use. And uh the settlement agreement has a lot of requirements that of data requirements of things that we have to collect that we're not collecting currently because our system just doesn't collect it. Um so an example that is um collecting like the race and gender of the people that you stop in a car, right? Our current system collects um so if officers do a report um it's just going to be the driver typically or the people that get cited in the car or like that, right? Um, but this it'll allow us. Um, one of the require one of the things that we're looking at adding is being able to uh have something that be able to enter data so we can know what everybody's demographics are, who we're stopping, um, what's going on so we can get a better snapshot of what's happening on this department so we can eventually follow the trends and uh, look look at why things are happening. Uh, positive interactions. So, uh, this might be a goofy slide for you all, but, um, about a year ago, um, one of the commissioners, I don't remember who it was, they said, uh, they would like just something positive in, uh, in the presentation. And so, I thought that was actually a good idea. Um, so this is, uh, two officers. They didn't know somebody was actually taking their photograph. Um, but, uh, it was 2° out with and it was negative, uh, -22° windchill. and they uh stopped and they helped somebody change their tire on the side of the road. And so it's just an example to me that I found that I thought we could enter um because you know police reform and change it's not always big actions. Um sometimes it's just the small things that that matter and that person probably remember that for a really long time. So that's all I have. >> Thank you. I would ask any commissioner to please send questions by email. Um, we have 16 minutes and the captioners have to leave. We still have five agenda items. I'd like to entertain a motion to 9, 10, 11, and 13 to the next meeting. >> Is there a second? >> All right, it's been moved and seconded. All those in favor, please say I. >> I. >> Any opposed? Any abstensions? All right. Thank you. Public hearing and planning. We did allocate 15 minutes for this. Hopefully we can get done much sooner than that only because we're in a very tight time frame. Um >> point of order. Jar, I'm sorry. I missed when did you say 11? Because that one's >> Yeah, that um the feedback for that is due on the 26th of March. So, we will not meet again before that. So, I was going to ask for the body's permission for PPR to submit something on behalf of the body. >> Okay, one moment. Come back to So, the public hearing already announced it. Um, and then we'll come back to the social media. Does anyone have any suggestions about policies or what they would like to see at the public hearing, which is May something? What's the date? May >> the public hearing is May 11th. >> May 11th. Thank you. Any suggestions on policy or whatever >> or practice? >> Or practice. >> As a as a reminder to myself, and I'll read it. This is what we're required to do on May 11th. We'll conduct a public hearing at least once per year addressing police department policies, rules, practices, and special orders. And we shall determine which police policies, rules, practices, or special orders shall be the subject of the hearing. So that's that's why this is teed up tonight is so that we can have a general discussion a and b um talk about a procedure for actually developing the agenda for the May 11th meeting. >> He shortened it up for me because my spiel was long. Um, what I learned today or in rereading the ordinance, um, what I realized is that the there the most recent change to our ordinance, um, says that the chief will come back and talk, we can invite the chief to come back and talk to us about the matter of the public hearing. >> Y, >> so it's important that we decide a topic that we'd like to then engage with the chief on >> um further. So tonight, I felt like there's lots of things that came up that might worth be worth future conversation. >> Any thoughts? Commission Baker, >> I I don't think it'd be a good use of any of our times to come back to this topic tonight. Um, but resonating in in many of the public comments, um, the community engagement between the the police force and the public, I think, is sorely lacking. I think this is of the six or seven events I have attended that the chief was supposed to be at, this is the second time I've ever been in a room with him. And I think there's a whole lot of pent up um engagement, let's say, that that the community would like to be having with the police. >> Is that what we're calling it? >> I'm trying to have to correlate. But like I think having a dialogue about like what like David Douglas at the Alifa meeting said we have to have a he doesn't replace Alifa doesn't replace our relationship with the police. And I responded, we don't have a relationship with the police. Like there's just other than the kind of clicks that they decide to engage with. There's no kind of broad and and so I I think how we open that up so that we can start to have dialogue as a community and get some of these multitude of issues that were addressed tonight having some back and forth. I know I I'm not happy with all the answers, but I felt better after seeing him present to the city commission um the city council and um than just only hearing from him when he wants to talk to the national news. So, I would say like some kind of way to get actual community engagement throughout the year would be a a topic I'd be interested in exploring with the chief. >> Okay. Um, Commissioner Cany, >> I think the topic of the public hearing should be duty of intervention. >> Okay. And there could be more than one, but Yep. Okay. Anyone else? >> I would like to see >> um I would like to see duty of intervention and I would also like to see uh community engagement outside of just um a strong focus on immigrant community. I think that it needs to be a focus on humanity at large because everybody deserves to have public service given to them by MPD if if needed. Whether you work here, live here, play here, you you have the right to be able to call upon them if their service is needed. >> Okay. >> Regardless of what your status is. >> Yep. Yep. Anyone else? Commissioner Palmer? Uh I would like to see I don't know the numbers but policies regarding MPD's response to domestic violence. >> Okay. >> Commissioner Champfield. >> Yes. I'll second that. And um also add we have seen like the response times he was mentioning uh as well as like public comment about the lack of investigations or trouble with investigations and and I'm wondering how we might address people's public comments. >> Trouble with investigations. people are coming to these meetings and and telling us that the investigations are taking years and years. >> Anyone else? >> Commissioner Manny, >> just kind of in general following in with a few of these, but kind of are the police going to respond and what is that going to look like? Are they a part of our community? When do they come in? When do they leave? That sort of conversation. So along that lines of community engagement, but I think it touches on a few of the topics. I'll work on framing it better. I'll send you >> We We need to approve it today. Think about it for just a second. So um Michelle uh CAPB, I think these questions came from you. >> Uh I would like to talk about the consent decree deadlines because I think in order for the chief to answer these questions, we can talk about at the public hearing and they're framed on this document. My quick purview is deadlines, due dates, and then what's the status? So, I think it'd be important to get this these questions answered. Um, anyone else? >> I I did notice that we we heard tonight they're doing the best they can with the consent decree, which feels a far sight from we will absolutely comply with the consent decree, which is what the executive order is. So, I think that would be a good productive conversation. Oh, >> I think it's definitely ongoing for sure. Commissioner um >> okay, sorry. >> Lieutenant uh Commander Robinson said that they were trying to integrate the documents, the settlement agreement and the consent decree. That would be a really interesting conversation. I'm sure the public would be interested in uh and how they're doing that and uh >> yeah. >> Okay. All right. Did you think of something other language? It's >> maybe just talk about the framework of community engagement. >> The framework of community engagement and kind of reliability. >> So this is what I've heard from you all. Community engagement throughout the year in inclusive of all um humanity at large kind of looking at everyone duty of duty of intervention response to domestic violence um trouble with investigations in terms of timelines and then consent decree deadlines and integration of settlement agreement and consent decree. Does that sound about inclusive of everything we've said? Okay. Someone like to make a motion to include those items on our public hearing. >> Sorry, chair. M just one idea quickly. Um, I don't think this these are not up for uh review at the moment um as policies, but uh I I'd be interested in hearing the public's feedback on um professionalism and and uh code of conduct and that kind of overarching um behavior issues and how how people's interactions with with MPD are on the street, you know, when whenever they do engage Um, so I I maybe I can figure out how that might fit into a current policy review, but uh just to get a feedback kind of on the how the cultural transformation within MPD is going. That's that's the theme I'm looking at. >> For those that were here last year, if you can recall, the public asked for more interaction like this as opposed to heavy on the policy. So kudos to remembering everyone that the focus wanted to be more on the issues in the community as opposed to just hearing about policy. That was the main takeaway I took from last public hearing. All right. Is there a motion for all of these items? >> Excuse me, Madam Chair. Some I missed somebody. >> We we are going we're just we were just compiling the list this month and then next month we were going to bring it back and vote on it then. >> Sounds good to me. Save us some time. If we wait until next month, we I'm I'm concerned about the timeline there because if we wait till next month, then we won't be able to approve it in time for the next for May 11th. >> I think we're our meeting is the first one. >> Yeah, it's April 13th is the next meeting, >> right? But then we c we can at PPR talk about it. >> Bring you anything else? >> What? Here's a here's a one suggestion around simplification. All of the topics that we've mentioned tonight seem and and the chief mentioned the culture of trust, the culture of the department. What if what if we broadly could say tonight that the topics the topic of the conversation is uh the culture of MPD and then we can dig into that a little deeper. Um but if we had something broad would that suffice? I don't know. These are all reasons people mistrust MPD. >> If we if we were to refer these issues and that to PPR for their next meeting to bring something back. >> Yeah. Then we could we could call them down. We probably two to three topics tops would be for the public hearing. We can't have 12 things on the agenda or we'll go till midnight again. So if we take the list that we come up with tonight, we could bring that to PPR or bring it back and then vote on it on the 13th. That's what you're saying. Okay. So is that a motion? >> Yeah. >> Feedback. Welcome. >> Well, in the interest of time, is that a motion PPR? Okay. >> Yeah. >> Second >> to bring these topics to PPR. They'll refine them, bring them back to the next meeting. Yeah. >> Okay. All those in favor? >> I. Any opposed abstensions? Let's go. Thank you. Commissioner Shfield, on the topic of social media policy. >> Did you want to do a referral to PPR? >> Yes, I did. >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> Do you want to make the motion? >> Yes, I do. >> Okay. >> I would like to make a motion uh uh the com uh let's see. I would like to make a motion invite uh a motion to approve the submission of our recommendations from PPRR on 102- or 10-27 uh on behalf of the body. >> Okay. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Second. >> All right. Hopefully no further discussion. All those in favor? >> I. >> Any opposed? Any abstensions? With three and a half minutes left, I would just like to add um there the CCP award night application is now open. Um the application closes March 31st at 11:59 p.m. encouraging those in W 9 to apply. And also there is an application open for alternate members for CCPO that closes same date and same time. With that, we're adjourned. Thank you.