[0:14] >> GOOD AFTERNOON. THIS IS THE [0:16] MARCH 20TH, 2025 ZONING BOARD OF [0:19] ADJUSTMENT REGULAR MEETING. MY [0:20] NAME IS MATT PERRY I'M CHAIR OF [0:22] THE BOARD I'LL NOW CALL THIS [0:23] MEETING TO ORDER AND ASK THE [0:26] CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL SO THAT [0:28] WE MAY VERIFY THE PRESENCE OF [0:31] QUORUM. [0:31] >> TONIGHT WE HAVE 4 ABSENTS, [0:36] BOARD MEMBER CALIF* [0:44] (ROLL CALL.) [0:57] >> WE HAVE 5 MEMBERS PRESENT. [0:59] >> LET THE RECORD REFLECT WE [1:00] HAVE QUORUM AND WITH THAT WE'LL [1:01] PROCEED IS TO OUR AGENDA. A [1:02] COPY OF WHICH WAS POSTED FOR [1:05] PUBLIC ACCESS TO THE CITY'S [1:07] LEGISLATIVE INFORMATION [1:08] MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. AVAILABLE AT [1:13] MINNEAPOLISMN.GOV. IS THERE A [1:15] MOTION TO APPROVE THIS AGENDA? [1:16] >> SO MOVED. [1:17] >> SECOND. [1:17] >> IT'S MOVED AND SECONDED. IS [1:20] THERE ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING [1:22] NONE, ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION [1:24] INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. [1:26] >> AYES. [1:28] >> ANY AGAINST INDICATE BY [1:29] SAYING NAY. AND THAT MOTION [1:31] PASSES AND THE AGENDA IS [1:33] APPROVED. [1:34] I BELIEVE EBB ALL THE BOARD [1:35] MEMBERS HAVE SEEN A COPY OF THE [1:36] MINUTES FROM THE MARCH 6TH, [1:38] 2025, ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT [1:40] MEETING. IS THERE A MOTION TO [1:41] APPROVE? [1:42] >> SO MOVED. [1:43] >> SECOND. [1:43] >> IT'S MOVED AND SECONDED. IS [1:45] THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE [1:47] MOTION? [1:48] HEARING NONE, ALL IN FAVOR [1:49] OF THE MOTION INDICATE BY SAYING [1:52] AYE. [1:53] >> AYES. [1:53] >> ANY AGAINST INDICATE BY [1:56] SAYING NAY. ANY ABSTENTIONS IF [1:57] YOU WERE NOT AT THE LAST [1:59] MEETING, YOU SHOULD ABSTAIN. [2:02] >> I THINK GRAM ABSTAINS. [2:05] >> WITH THAT THE MINUTES OF THE [2:06] ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT MARCH [2:08] 6TH, 2025, ARE APPROVED. [2:11] AND WE WILL MOVE ON TO [2:14] REVIEWING THE AGENDA. [2:15] I WILL READ THE AGENDA [2:16] NUMBER, THE ADDRESS OF THE [2:18] PROJECT, AND STATE WHETHER IT'S [2:20] SLATED FOR CONSENT, CONTINUANCE, [2:23] WITHDRAW, RETURNED OR [2:25] DISCUSSION. [2:25] AND WE HAVE ONE ITEM TO [2:30] DISCUSS. IT'S AGENDA [2:32] ITEM NO. 4, 2807 SUNSET BLUFFED. [2:35] STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THIS ITEM [2:37] BE CONTINUED UNTIL APRIL 10TH, [2:42] 2025. WHICH IS ONE CYCLE ON. [2:44] WE CAN DISCUSS THIS MORE WHEN WE [2:46] REVIEW REQUESTED CONTINUANCES. [2:49] WE DO NOT HAVE ANY ITEMS ON [2:51] CONSENT. OR DISCUSSION ON LET'S [2:54] REVIEW THE ITEM ON THE AGENDA [2:56] FOR CONTINUANCE, WHICH IS 2807 [2:58] SUNSET BOULEVARD. STAFF IS [3:01] REQUESTING THE THIS ITEM BE [3:03] CONTINUED TO THE APRIL [3:05] FRESHMENTH, 20 -- 10TH 2025 [3:11] REGULAR MEETING. CAN WE GET AN [3:11] EXPLANATION AS TO THE REASON WHY [3:13] THE REQUEST IS BEING MADE, [3:16] PLEASE? [3:18] >> CHAIR PERRY, MEMBERS OF THE [3:22] BOARD, IT COMES FROM THE [3:24] APPLICANTS THEY NEEDED A LITTLE [3:26] BIT MORE TIME TO RETHEIR REQUEST [3:29] AND, UNFORTUNATELY, THAT REQUEST [3:29] CAME AFTER THE NOTICES HAVE BEEN [3:30] PUT OUT FOR THIS MEETING. GIVEN [3:33] THAT REQUEST FOR CONTINUATION, [3:36] STAFF DECIDED NOT TO ALLOW THAT [3:37] ADDITIONAL TIME, AGAIN, TO [3:40] REFINE THOSE MATERIALS AND, [3:41] AGAIN, THIS WILL COME TO YOU [3:42] NEXT MONTH AT THE NEXT MEETING. [3:43] >> OKAY, ANY QUESTIONS, YES. [3:45] >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'M [3:46] CURIOUS TO NOTE, THOUGH, WILL [3:48] THE NEIGHBORS KNOW ABOUT THIS [3:49] BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S A POSTING [3:51] ON THIS. DOES THIS GET UPDATED [3:52] WITH A POST-IT NOTE OR [3:55] SOMETHING? [3:55] >> TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THE HEARING [3:57] IS REALLY -- IT'S NOTICED THE [3:59] ONE TIME FOR THIS MEETING AND [4:00] THEN ANYONE THAT IS INVOLVED IN [4:02] FOLLOWING THIS WOULD NEED TO [4:03] ESSENTIALLY WATCH THIS MEETING [4:04] AND THEN SEE THAT IT'S BEEN [4:06] CONTINUED. [4:06] THE OTHER THING I'LL NOTE [4:07] IS THAT ON THE AGENDA FOR THIS [4:08] MEET, IT HAS BEEN NOTED THAT [4:10] IT'S RECOMMENDED FOR [4:11] CONTINUATION. BUT WE DO NOT [4:13] HAVE A SECOND NOTICE THAT GOES [4:14] OUT AFTER THE FACT. [4:17] >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? [4:21] ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. [4:24] IS THERE ANYONE HERE WHO [4:25] WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF [4:29] CONTINUING THIS ITEM? I SEE NO [4:31] ONE. IS THERE ANYONE HERE ABOUT [4:33] WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AGAINST [4:34] CONTINUING THIS ITEM? [4:36] IS THERE ANY BOARD [4:39] COMMENT? [4:39] IS THERE A MOTION TO [4:41] CONTINUE THE LAND USE REQUEST [4:42] FOR 2807 SUNSET BOULEVARD TO OUR [4:44] APRIL 10TH, 2025 MEETING? [4:47] >> SO MOVED. [4:48] >> IS THERE A SECOND? [4:50] >> SECOND. [4:51] >> IT'S MOVED AND SECONDED. IS [4:52] THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE [4:53] MOTION? HEARING NONE, ALL IN [4:57] FAVOR OF THE MOTION INDICATE BY [4:58] SAYING AYE. [4:59] >> AYES. [4:59] >> ANY AGAINST, INDICATE BY [5:01] SAYING NAY, ANY ABSTENTION? AND [5:04] THAT MOTION PASSES SO THE LAND [5:06] USE APPLICATION FOR AS 2807 [5:09] SUNSET BOULEVARD WILL BE [5:10] CONTINUED TO OUR APRIL 10TH, [5:12] 2025 BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT [5:14] MEETING. [5:15] AND THAT CONCLUDES OUR LAND [5:17] USE REQUEST. WE DO HAVE -- I'M [5:21] GOING TO SAY IT'S OLD BUSINESS [5:22] SINCE IT DID COME UP AT OUR LAST [5:23] MEETING, WHICH IS TO RECEIVE AND [5:26] FILE THE 2024 BOA ANNUAL REPORT. [5:30] DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS [5:32] ON THE REPORT? [5:36] DO YOU, YES, PLEASE. [5:37] THANK YOU. [5:38] >> FIRSTS OFF, THANKS -- FIRST [5:41] OFF, THANKS. I FOUND IT REALLY [5:44] ENLIGHTENING IN A NUMBER OF [5:45] PIECES. THE FIRST THING THAT [5:46] STRUCK ME WAS ON PAGE 5, WHICH [5:48] THE PAGES WEREN'T NUMBERED THAT [5:50] WE'VE GONE DOWN FROM 2020 OF 124 [5:53] TO 58 IN 20 -- EXCUSE ME, WE'VE [5:56] GONE FROM 324 IN 2020 TO ONLY 58 [6:00] IN 2024. [6:03] AND I GUESS I'M JUST [6:04] INTERESTED IN -- THIS REALLY IS [6:07] EXCELLENT IN THE SENSE THAT [6:09] EITHER APPLICANTS ARE NOT [6:11] OBEYING THE RULESES AND [6:14] REGULATIONS, WHICH IS REALLY [6:14] WONDERFUL. OR OUR PLANNING [6:16] STAFF IS DOING JUST A GREAT JOB [6:17] OF MAKING SURE THAT THOSE THINGS [6:21] ARE ADDRESSED BEFOREHAND SO THAT [6:23] ADJUSTMENTS ARE NOT NEEDED. [6:24] I KNOW YOU'RE THE ONLY [6:26] PLANNER HERE, BUT, YOU KNOW, DO [6:27] YOU WANT TO TAKE A STAB AT -- AT [6:29] THAT OR CAN YOU -- I MEAN, I'M [6:30] ACTUALLY SAYING KUDOS TO [6:33] PLANNING BECAUSE I THINK [6:35] SOMETHING'S POSITIVE ABOUT NOT [6:37] HAVING PEOPLE DO VARIANCES ON A [6:39] REGULAR BASIS. [6:39] OR IS IT SIMPLY BECAUSE WE [6:42] HAVE A NUMBER OF DEVELOPERS WHO [6:44] DID APARTMENT BUILDINGS THAT [6:46] WERE CONSISTENTLY COMING [6:51] FORTHWITH VARIATIONS ONSETBACKS [6:52] AND HEIGHTS AND THINGS LIKE [6:52] THAT? SO I'M CURIOUS WHAT YOU [6:53] MIGHT THINK IT IS AND JUST SAY [6:56] KUDOS FOR HAVING IT BE REDUCED. [6:59] >> ABSOLUTELY, CHAIR PERRY, [7:04] COUNCIL MEMBER GRANS KORSH I'LL [7:04] BE HAPPY TO PASS IT ON THE STAFF [7:07] REZONING FEMALE. [7:08] I WOULD ADD ONE THING I [7:10] WOULD ADD FROM THAT DROP FROM [7:12] 2020 TODAY. WE DID HAVE SOME [7:14] CHANGES OF THE ZONING CODE IN [7:16] TERMS OF THE LAND USE [7:18] REQUIREMENTS MORE SPECIFICALLY [7:19] FOR LAND USE SXHULTS FAMILY [7:20] TRYING TO AMOUNT OF AMOUNT OF [7:23] VARIANCES THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY [7:24] THAT ARE LAND USE PRESERVATION [7:25] TEAM ARE ALSO SEEING SO THERE [7:27] MIGHT BE SOME OF THAT. THE CODE [7:29] HAS CHANGED TO JUST ALLOW A [7:31] LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY FOR [7:31] THESE PROPERTY OWNERS, [7:32] OTHERWISE, I DON'T WANT TO [7:34] SUSPECT TOO MUCH. I DO AGREE IN [7:35] JUST RECENTLY IT SEEMS LIKE [7:38] THERE'S BEEN A DROP THAT PEOPLE [7:39] ARE FINDING MORE WAYS TO FIND, [7:41] YOU KNOW, IMPROVEMENTS IN THEIR [7:42] HOMES WITHOUT NEEDING THAT [7:44] VARIANCE, WHICH IS ALWAYS A NET [7:47] POSITIVE IN STAFF SIZE. [7:52] >> ANYTHING ELSE? [7:53] >> YES, THE OTHER COMMENT I [7:57] WOULD LIKE THAT ANYBODY WHO [7:59] MIGHT BE LOOKING AT THIS THE 3 [8:01] WARD IS PAR TOO GRACIOUS IN OUR [8:04] ATTENDANCE BUT THE THIRD WARD, [8:06] TWO, AND THREE, FOUR YEARS AGO [8:08] WAS HIT TIME AND TIME AGAIN WITH [8:10] A NUMBER OF DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS [8:12] THAT KEPT ON PUSHING THE [8:14] BOUNDARIES ONSITE LIMITS AND -- [8:16] AND SO I THINK THAT WAS [8:17] PROBABLY -- I'M JUST SPEAKING [8:19] FOR MYSELF BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE [8:20] REASONS WHY I GOT ON THE BOARD. [8:21] I CAN'T SPEAK FOR DEREK OR ANNA [8:24] BUT -- I WAS CONCERNED -- I'M [8:27] HOPING THAT, YOU KNOW -- I DON'T [8:29] WANT TO KNOCK MYSELF OUT OF THE [8:32] COMMITTEE BUT I DO THINK IT'S [8:34] IMPORTANT THAT WE GET SOME EQUAL [8:37] PARTICIPATION FROM THE WARD AND [8:39] SO I THINK ANY TIME WE CAN, YOU [8:41] KNOW, LIKE I NOTICED THAT WE DO [8:43] HAVE SOMEBODY FROM THE SECOND [8:44] WARD AND THE 13TH WARD -- THOSE [8:47] ARE GREAT BECAUSE THEY WERE THE [8:48] TWO HIGHEST 15 AND 10 BUT THE [8:51] SEVENTH WARD, KAY CASHMAN'S [8:54] AREA -- OH, WE DO HAVE ONE -- [8:56] WELL, YEAH. SO I JUST OF THE TO [8:58] MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE -- THAT [9:00] IT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS SEEK IF [9:07] YOU LOOK AT LOCAL CITY COUNCIL [9:07] TO GET PEOPLE ON THE BOARD TO [9:08] REFLECT MORE OF THE DIVERSITY [9:09] THAT'S GOING ON HERE. [9:11] >> AND I THINK I CAN SPEAK TO [9:13] THAT SINCE I SAT IN THE [9:16] INTERVIEW PROCESS IS THAT -- [9:23] WHEN WE HAVE OPENINGS, WE ASK [9:26] THE COUNCIL PEOPLE WHERE THERE [9:28] MIGHT BE A NEED FOR GEOGRAPHIC [9:30] DIVERSITY TO PLEASE PUT THE WORD [9:33] OUT AND SO I THINK YOU'RE SEEING [9:36] SOME OF THAT WITH WARD 3. AND [9:38] IT'S CERTAINLY -- I THINK [9:39] THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITY HERE [9:41] FOR SOME OF THE OTHER WARDS. [9:44] YEP? [9:45] ONE OTHER THING I WOULD [9:47] JUST LIKE TO MENTION IS, BOARD [9:50] MEMBER WANG, I'M NOT SURE HER -- [9:53] SHE'S PROPERLY LISTED. [9:55] >> OH? [9:55] >> SO IF THAT COULD JUST BE [9:57] CHECKED INTO -- [9:58] >> ABSOLUTELY. [9:59] >> YOU MIGHT BE FINE BUT IT [10:00] MIGHT NEED TO BE TWEAKED. [10:01] >> ABSOLUTELY, YEAH, I CAN PASS [10:04] ALONG THAT. AND I WOULD SAY TO [10:06] THE REST OF THE BOARD, IF YOU [10:08] HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR THINGS YOU [10:09] WANT TO SEE IN THE NEXT REPORT, [10:10] WE'D ENCOURAGE YOU TO REACH OUT [10:13] TO MR. ELLIS OR OTHER MEMBERS OF [10:14] THE STAFF. I'M HAPPY TO INCLUDE [10:20] SOME OF SUGGESTIONS THAT YOU [10:23] MIGHT ALL HAVE. [10:23] >> I WOULD MOVE TO HAVE IT COPY [10:25] AND FILED. [10:27] >> SO MOVED. [10:28] >> SECOND. [10:29] >> I THINK WE CAN JUST DO A [10:31] VOICE VOTE ON THIS. ALL IN [10:32] FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. [10:34] >> AWK. [10:34] >> ANY AGAINST INDICATE BY [10:37] SAYING NAY. AND THAT PASSES SO [10:40] WE HAVE OUR ANNUAL REPORT. [10:42] OUR NEXT MEETING IS APRIL [10:43] 10TH, 2025. AND I WOULD [10:47] ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN. [10:48] >> SO MOVED. [10:49] >> SECOND. [10:50] >> IT'S MOVED AND SECONDED. ALL [10:52] IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. [10:54] >> AYES. [10:55] >> WE ARE ADJOURNED.