[0:12] AWE GAUFRN. [0:13] WELCOME TO THIS REGULAR MEETING [0:15] OF THE BOARD OF ESTIMATE AND [0:19] TAXATION FOR MARCH 26, 2025. [0:23] I'M STEVE BRANDT, PRESIDENT OF [0:24] THE BOARD. [0:25] BEFORE WE BEGIN THE MEETING, I [0:27] WILL ASK THE CLERK TO READ THE [0:36] REMINDER TO PARTICIPANTS IN THE [0:37] MEETING. [0:40] >> I WANT TO OFFER A FRIENDLY [0:42] REMINDER. [0:44] BEFORE WE BEGIN THE MEETING, I [0:45] WANT TO OFFER A FRIENDLY [0:45] REMINDER TO ALL MEMBERS AND [0:46] STAFF THAT THIS MEETING IS [0:46] BROADCAST LIVE TO ENABLE GREATER [0:47] PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. THE [0:47] BROADCAST INCLUDES REAL-TIME [0:48] CAPTIONING AS A FURTHER METHOD [0:49] TO INCREASE THE ACCESSIBILITY OF [0:49] OUR PROCEEDINGS TO THE [0:50] COMMUNITY. THEREFORE, ALL [0:51] SPEAKERS NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF [0:52] THE RATE OF THEIR SPEECH SO THAT [0:53] OUR CAPTIONERS CAN FULLY CAPTURE [0:56] AND TRANSCRIBE ALL COMMENTS FOR [0:56] THE BROADCAST. WE ASK ALL [0:58] SPEAKERS TO MODERATE THE SPEED [0:59] AND CLARITY OF THEIR COMMENTS. [1:05] >> AT THIS TIME I'LL ASK THE [1:08] CLERK TO CALL CAN ROLL SO WE CAN [1:11] VERIFY THE PRESENCE OF A QUORUM. [1:13] >> COMMISSIONER FREY IS ABSENT. [1:17] COMMISSIONER ABENE, ABSENT. [1:19] COMMISSIONER PAYNE. [1:20] >> PRESENT. [1:21] >> COMMISSIONER CHUGHTAI. [1:22] >> PRESENT. [1:25] >> VICE PRESIDENT PREE-STINSON, [1:27] PRESENT. [1:28] >> PRESIDENT BRANDT, PRESENT. [1:29] >> THERE ARE FOUR MEMBERS [1:30] PRESENT. [1:31] >> LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT [1:32] WE HAVE A QUORUM. [1:33] AND I BELIEVE THE MAYOR WILL BE [1:35] HERE MOMENTARILY. [1:36] I WANT TO NOW ACKNOWLEDGE THAT [1:38] WE ARE MEETING TODAY ON LAND [1:40] THAT HAS HISTORICALLY BEEN THE [1:43] HOME OF THE DAKOTA PEOPLE, AND [1:45] WE WILL NOW PROCEED TO OUR [1:46] AGENDA, A COPY OF WHICH WAS [1:48] POSTED FOR PUBLIC ACCESS TO THE [1:51] CITY'S LEGISLATIVE INFORMATION [1:53] MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, WHICH IS [1:55] AVAILABLE AT LIMS.MINNEAPOLIS [2:01] MN.GOV. [2:02] AND BOARD MEMBERS T AGENDA FOR [2:04] TODAY'S MEETING IS BEFORE US. [2:07] HOWEVER, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE A [2:08] COUPLE OF ITEMS. [2:10] I WOULD LIKE TO PUT ITEM 6, NEW [2:14] BUSINESS, RIGHT AFTER THE [2:15] ACCEPTANCE OF MINUTES TO BE [2:16] FOLLOWED BY THE PROPOSED CHARTER [2:20] RESOLUTION, WHICH WOULD PUT -- [2:21] MOVE DOWN THE BET WORK PLAN [2:24] DISCUSSION. [2:24] MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT [2:25] THAT AS AMENDED? [2:26] >> SO MOVED. [2:27] >> SECOND. [2:28] >> WE HAVE PROPER MOTION BEFORE [2:29] US. [2:30] IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? AL [2:32] THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. [2:35] OPPOSED? OKAY. [2:36] THE AYE'S HAVE IT AND THE AGENDA [2:38] IS ADOPTED. [2:39] NEXT IS THE ACCEPTANCE OF [2:40] MINUTES FROM THE JANUARY 22, [2:43] 2025 MEETING. [2:44] WILL WE PLEASE HAVE A MOTION TO [2:45] ACCEPT THE MINUTES? [2:46] >> SO MOVED. [2:47] >> SECOND. [2:48] >> OKAY. [2:49] WE HAVE PROPER MOTION BEFORE US. [2:50] ANY DISCUSSION? [2:51] >> SEEING NONE, ALL THOSE IN [2:54] FAVOR SAY AYE. [2:56] THOSE OPPOSED SAY NO. [2:57] AYE'S HAVE IT AND THE MINUTES [2:59] ARE ACCEPTED AS PRESENTED. [3:00] ITEM FOUR ON THE AGENDA IS THE [3:03] ACCEPTANCE OF PUBLIC COMMENT. [3:05] AND I WILL INQUIRE WITH THE [3:06] CLERK WHETHER ANYBODY HAS SIGNED [3:08] UP. [3:08] OKAY, NO ONE HAS SIGNED UP TO [3:10] SPEAK TODAY, SO WE WILL CONTINUE [3:12] WITH THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM. [3:14] HOWEVER, I JUST WANT TO REMIND [3:15] THE PUBLIC THAT THEY HAVE THE [3:18] OPPORTUNITY TO SIGN UP TO [3:19] ADDRESS ANY ITEM THAT IS ON THAT [3:21] DAY'S BOARD OF ESTIMATE AND [3:25] TAXATION AGENDA. [3:28] AND ITEM NUMBER -- OR NEXT ITEM [3:35] IS THE RECEIPT OF ACCESSIBLE [3:38] PROJECTS FROM THE CITY COUNCIL [3:38] FOR WHICH THE BOARD OF ESTIMATE [3:40] WILL CONSIDER APPROVING THE [3:42] ISSUANCE OF TAX-EXEMPT GENERAL [3:45] BOND ASSESSMENT BONDS AT A [3:48] FUTURE MEETING. [3:51] MR. ALLEN, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING [3:53] TO ADD TO THAT? O [3:57] OKAY. [3:57] I WOULD THEN ASK THE CLERK TO [4:00] RECEIVE AND FILE THAT ITEM. [4:03] THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS A [4:09] PROPOSED CHARTER RESOLUTION. [4:11] THIS SHOULD LOOK VERY FAMILIAR [4:12] TO THE BOARD BECAUSE WE PASSED A [4:16] VERY SIMILAR RESOLUTION LAST [4:21] MAY, AND I WANT TO POINT OUT FOR [4:23] THE PUBLIC, WHO HASN'T BEEN [4:26] NECESSARILY FOLLOWING THAT [4:28] DISCUSSION, THAT THE PURPOSE OF [4:31] THE AMENDMENT IS ESSENTIALLY [4:35] THREEFOLD, PROPOSED AMENDMENT. [4:37] ONE IS TO GIVE US A SEVENTH [4:40] MEMBER ON THE BOARD OF ESTIMATE [4:42] SO WE ARE NO LONGER THE ONLY [4:43] BODY ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE OF [4:45] MINNEAPOLIS THAT DOESN'T HAVE A [4:47] TIE-BREAKING, ONLY LOCAL BODY [4:48] THAT DOESN'T HAVE A TIE-BREAKING [4:52] NUMBER OF MEMBERS. [4:53] AND SECONDLY, TO MAKE THAT [4:56] SEVENTH MEMBER A THIRD MEMBER [4:58] ELECTED BY THE PUBLIC IN [4:59] ADDITION TO THE TWO WE HAVE NOW. [5:02] AND THEN ALSO TO CHANGE THE NAME [5:04] OF THE BOARD OF ESTIMATE AND [5:06] TAXATION TO SOMETHING THAT MORE [5:08] CLOSELY REFLECTS ITS CURRENT [5:11] DUTIES. [5:12] NOW, YOU MAY ASK YOURSELVES, WHY [5:16] ARE WE REPASSING THIS [5:19] RESOLUTION? OR WHY AM I ASKING [5:20] YOU TO REPASS THIS RESOLUTION? [5:23] YOU WILL RECALL WE ASKED THE [5:27] CHARTER COMMISSION LAST MAY TO [5:30] ADOPT -- TO CONSIDER AND MAKE A [5:32] RECOMMENDATION IN FAVOR OF THESE [5:33] THREE CHANGES. [5:35] THE CHARTER COMMISSION IN ITS [5:37] WISDOM DECIDED NOT TO -- ASSENT [5:39] TO THAT. [5:40] I THINK IT HAD MORE TO DO WITH [5:41] THE CHARTER COMMISSION'S [5:44] LONG-STANDING FEELINGS ABOUT THE [5:45] BOARD OF ESTIMATE AND TAXATION [5:49] RATHER THAN THE SUBSTANCE OF THE [5:51] CHANGES THEMSELVES, BUT THAT WAS [5:53] ONE ROUTE TO INITIATE A CHARTER [5:56] AMENDMENT. [5:57] A SECOND ROUTE IS TO ASK THE [6:00] CITY COUNCIL TO ASK THE CHARTER [6:03] COMMISSION TO CONSIDER SUCH AN [6:06] AMENDMENT, SET OF AMENDMENTS. [6:08] NOW, YOU MIGHT ASK, DIDN'T THEY [6:10] ALREADY SAY NO? HOWEVER, THE [6:12] DIFFERENCE IS IF THE CHARTER [6:14] COMMISSION COMES BACK TO THE [6:16] CITY COUNCIL AND SAYS NO, THE [6:18] CITY COUNCIL DOES HAVE THE [6:20] OPTION OF EITHER CONSIDERING THE [6:22] INPUT OF THE CHARTER COMMISSION [6:23] AND AGAIN SAYING NO, OR TO PUT [6:28] IT OUR ORIGINAL PROPOSAL ON THE [6:29] BALLOT. [6:29] SO THAT'S WHERE I BRING THIS [6:33] BEFORE YOU TODAY. [6:35] AND I WILL NOW HAVING INTRODUCED [6:39] THIS, OPEN THIS UP FOR ANY [6:45] DISCUSSION. [6:46] ALL RIGHT. [6:48] COMMISSIONER PAYNE. [6:49] >> THA YOU, PRESIDENT BRANDT. [6:52] YEAH, I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING [6:53] THAT IS PART OF A BROADER [6:57] CONVERSATION AROUND GOVERNMENT [6:58] STRUCTURE, HOW THE [6:59] ADMINISTRATIVE AND LEGISLATIVE [7:01] BRANCHES FUNCTION TOGETHER, AND [7:02] WHERE B.E.T. FITS INTO THAT, SO [7:04] I THINK THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE [7:08] DISCUSSION TO HAVE IN CITY [7:09] COUNCIL. [7:09] >> COMMISSIONER PREE-STINSON? [7:12] >> I WAS GOING TO MAKE SIMILAR [7:14] REMARKS, BUT ALSO JUST GENERALLY [7:17] SPEAK IN SUPPORT, ESPECIALLY TO [7:21] ADDING ANOTHER MEMBER. [7:22] I THINK JUST IN GENERAL THE WAY [7:24] THAT GOVERNMENT IS GOING IN OUR [7:27] COUNTRY, HAVING ANOTHER VOICE TO [7:29] ALSO BALANCE OUT THOSE THAT [7:30] ALREADY HAVE ELECTED DUTIES, IT [7:33] MAKES SENSE TO ADD ANOTHER [7:35] MEMBER. [7:36] NOT JUST TO HAVE A TIE BREAKER, [7:38] BUT ALSO TO HAVE FAIR AND [7:40] EQUITABLE REPRESENTATION FROM [7:41] THE PUBLIC FOR SOMETHING THAT [7:44] HAS SOME INDEPENDENT OVERSIGHT [7:45] AND DECISION MAKING, WHICH I [7:47] THINK, AGAIN, IN THESE DAYS AND [7:49] TIMES IS ALL THE MORE IMPORTANT. [7:51] SO I SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THAT. [7:55] IN ALL HONESTY, I AM NEUTRAL [7:56] ABOUT CHANGING THE NAME. [7:58] IT DOES MAKE SENSE. [8:00] IT'S NOT ANYTHING THAT I WOULD [8:01] FIGHT TOOTH AND NAIL FOR. [8:03] I'M MORE SPECIFICALLY INTERESTED [8:04] IN NUMBER ONE, BUT I WOULDN'T [8:07] FIGHT OVER IT. [8:08] I GENERALLY SPEAK IN SUPPORT. [8:10] AND I THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT [8:13] FORWARD AROUND PUTTING IN THE [8:14] WORK OVER THE LAST TWO, THREE [8:16] YEARS ON THAT. [8:16] THANK YOU FOR THAT. [8:17] ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ANY [8:18] FURTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY. [8:21] WOULD SOMEBODY CARE TO MOVE THE [8:23] RESOLUTION? [8:23] >> SO MOVED. [8:24] >> IS THERE A SECOND? [8:25] >> SECOND. [8:26] >> ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? [8:31] OKAY. [8:31] CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL SINCE [8:33] THIS IS A RESOLUTION. [8:36] >> COMMISSIONER FREY. [8:39] >> AYE. [8:40] >> ABENE IS ABSENT. [8:42] PAYNE? [8:43] >> AYE. [8:45] CHUGHTAI. [8:45] >> AYE. [8:46] >> VICE PRESIDENT PREE-STINSON. [8:47] >> AYE. [8:48] >> PRESIDENT BRANDT. [8:50] >> AYE. [8:51] >> THERE ARE FIVE AYES. [8:52] >> ALL RIGHT. [8:53] AND THE CLERK WILL, I HOPE, [8:55] CATCH ME AFTERWARDS AND MAKE [8:57] SURE I SIGN AS APPROPRIATE. [8:59] THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS [9:01] THE B.E.T. WORK PLAN DISCUSSION. [9:07] AND I BRING THIS UP BECAUSE WE [9:08] WILL, I HOPE, SHORTLY HAVE A [9:11] STAFFER, AND WE NEED TO SPECIFY [9:15] BEYOND WHAT IS THE CONSIDERABLE [9:18] DUTIES THAT ARE IN THE J.A.Q., [9:20] WHICH I BELIEVE STANDS FOR JOB [9:23] ANALYSIS QUESTIONNAIRE, FOR THIS [9:26] PERSON. [9:26] WE LEFT A SUBSTANTIAL PORTION OF [9:31] THE EXPECTED DUTIES TO BE FILLED [9:39] IN UNDER THE HEADING OF RESEARCH [9:41] THAT WOULD BE CONDUCTED FOR THE [9:42] BOARD, AND SO I HAVE PUT FORWARD [9:44] IN THE AGENDA SOME ADDITIONAL [9:48] SPECIFIC ITEMS THAT COULD BE [9:49] CONSIDERED AS PART OF THE WORK [9:51] PLAN FOR THIS PERSON. [9:53] AND I DON'T ENVISION TODAY BEING [9:55] THE END OF THAT DISCUSSION. [10:00] AND I ALSO WANT TO BE CLEAR AND [10:04] THANK MR. HAMMER FOR BRINGING UP [10:08] THESE POINTS THAT IN SEVERAL OF [10:11] THE POINTS WE ARE DELVING INTO [10:15] AREAS THAT IN ORDER TO BE [10:19] ENACTED WOULD NEED TO BE AN [10:20] ACTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL. [10:22] AND I'M NOT TRYING TO USURP THE [10:27] CITY COUNCIL IN ANY WAY. [10:27] WE WOULD LEAVE THEIR POWERS WITH [10:29] THEM, OF COURSE, AND STICK TO [10:32] OUR KNITTING IN TERMS OF THE [10:33] CHARTER, BUT I THINK ONE BENEFIT [10:34] WE CAN PROVIDE IS THE PROVISION [10:37] OF INFORMATION TO HELP MAYBE [10:39] MOVE THE PROCESS ALONG IN A [10:41] COUPLE OF AREAS. [10:42] SO ANY DISCUSSION? [10:45] COMMISSIONER PREE-STINSON? [10:47] >> JUST VERY QUICKLY, I WOULD [10:50] SAY ON THE, YOU KNOW, WHOSE [10:51] RESPONSIBILITY IS FOR CERTAIN [10:53] THINGS, I THINK ONE THING TO [10:54] CONSIDER IS JUST A BROADER WAY [10:57] TO PUT IT IS IN THE COORDINATION [10:58] WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS. [11:00] SO IF THAT WORK AND IT IS WORK [11:02] OF I.G.R., OUR NEW STAFF PERSON [11:05] COULD COORDINATE WITH THEM AND [11:06] LET THEM KNOW THE NEEDS OF THE [11:07] BOARD AND WHAT WE'RE CONSIDERING [11:08] AND WORK WITH THEM TO LET THEM [11:10] DO THEIR WORK AND CORRESPOND [11:11] BACK AND FORTH, RATHER THAN TO [11:13] SPECIFICALLY DELEGATE THAT [11:14] THEY'RE DOING THE RESEARCH. [11:17] SO I JUST HAD THAT QUICK COMMENT [11:18] THERE. [11:21] GENERALLY I THINK IT LOOKS [11:23] PRETTY GOOD. [11:23] IT'S ALONG THE LINES THAT WE'RE [11:25] TALKING ABOUT. [11:26] I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S APPROPRIATE [11:27] TO GIVE A QUICK UPDATE OR IF YOU [11:29] WANT TO ACTUALLY WAIT FOR [11:30] UPDATES ON THE PROCESS OF WHERE [11:32] WE ARE. [11:33] >> COMMISSIONER PREE-STINSON, IF [11:35] YOU THINK IT WOULD BE [11:36] APPROPRIATE TO GIVE THAT UPDATE [11:37] HERE -- [11:38] >> VERY QUICK. [11:39] >> YOU'VE BEEN MORE INVOLVED IN [11:40] THE PROCESS IN THE LAST COUPLE [11:41] OF WEEKS THAN I HAVE, SO IF YOU [11:43] WANT TO TELL PEOPLE WHAT [11:44] SCHEDULE WE'RE ON? [11:46] >> YES. [11:46] SO WE HAVE CONCLUDED INTERVIEWS [11:48] NUMBER ONE. [11:49] OUR QUESTIONNAIRES THAT WE [11:51] COMPLETED AS THOSE THAT [11:52] PARTICIPATED IN THAT FIRST [11:55] PANEL, WHICH WAS SOMEONE FROM [11:59] H.R., MYSELF -- I'M MISSING A [12:02] PERSON. [12:02] WHO AM I MISSING? [12:04] THERE WAS THREE OF US. [12:05] THE PARK BOARD, YES. [12:07] OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR. [12:08] SO WE COMPLETED THAT. [12:09] WE SENT THOSE FORWARD. [12:10] THE SECOND ROUND OF INTERVIEW IS [12:12] BEING SCHEDULED FOR THE TWO [12:16] INDIVIDUALS, EITHER JUST QUICK, [12:17] CAN'T SAY TOO MUCH, BUT THIS IS [12:18] LOOKING REALLY GOOD FOR US. [12:21] I'M GLAD THAT WE TOOK THE TIME [12:23] TO WALK THROUGH THIS PROCESS. [12:24] I THINK WE'RE GOING TO FIND A [12:26] REALLY GOOD FIT. [12:27] I HAVE ALSO, JUST TO BE [12:29] TRANSPARENT, THE ORIGINAL [12:30] PROPOSAL WAS FOR A SET OF THREE [12:31] DIFFERENT PEOPLE TO CONDUCT [12:32] INTERVIEW NUMBER TWO, BUT I'VE [12:34] ASKED THE PRESIDENT AND HE [12:36] AGREES THERE SHOULD BE FOR [12:38] CONTINUITY, ONE PERSON FROM THE [12:39] FIRST ONE TO BE THERE, OTHERWISE [12:40] IT IS KIND OF STRANGE TO NOT [12:42] HAVE, AGAIN T CONTINUITY. [12:44] I HAVE VOLUNTEERED MYSELF TO BE [12:45] PART OF THE SECOND INTERVIEW AS [12:46] WELL JUST SO I CAN SHARE SOME [12:49] ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK BEYOND WHAT [12:50] WE WROTE ON PAPER WHAT OCCURRED [12:51] IN THE FIRST ONE. [12:52] I FEEL THAT WE'RE ON TRACK TO [12:55] GET OUR STAFFER PROBABLY SOONER [12:57] THAN WE MIGHT HAVE THOUGHT. [12:59] AND THEN AN INDIVIDUAL THAT IS [13:00] ABLE TO WORK WITH THE LEVEL OF [13:02] AUTONOMY THAT WE WOULD LIKE SO [13:05] WE'RE NOT HAVING TO HEAVY HAND [13:06] SUPERVISE. [13:07] THE ONE OTHER THING THAT I WILL [13:08] BRING UP THAT WE HAVEN'T REALLY [13:10] DISCUSSED THAT IS RELATED TO THE [13:12] WORK PLAN IS FOR THIS [13:13] INDIVIDUAL, WHO IS GOING TO BE A [13:15] FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE, WHAT WILL [13:16] PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT LOOK [13:19] LIKE FOR THAT PERSON? THIS IS [13:20] SOMEBODY THAT SHOULD BE [13:21] DEVELOPED AND BE ABLE TO GROW [13:22] WITHIN THEIR ROLE, WITHIN THE [13:23] CITY, AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO [13:26] THINK EVEN WITH THE NATURE OF [13:28] OUR BOARD AND THE INDEPENDENT [13:30] NATURE, THAT THEY WOULD HAVE [13:32] ACCESS TO WHATEVER RESOURCES ANY [13:33] OTHER EMPLOYEE WOULD HAVE FOR [13:34] THEIR PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT. [13:35] AND IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT [13:37] WHOEVER IS SERVING AS PRESIDENT [13:39] SHOULD BE FOSTERING THAT [13:40] DEVELOPMENT, SO I JUST WANTED TO [13:41] BE NOTED AND MAKE SURE THAT [13:43] WE'RE IN AGREEMENT AND IT'S PART [13:44] OF THE WORK PLAN THAT THAT'S [13:47] PART OF THE DISCUSSIONS IS THIS [13:49] INDIVIDUAL'S PROFESSIONAL [13:52] DEVELOPMENT. [13:52] AND THAT IS THE UPDATE. [13:53] >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER [13:55] PREE-STINSON. [13:56] I -- I APPRECIATE YOUR [13:57] SUGGESTION ON PROFESSIONAL [13:59] DEVELOPMENT, AND WILL PROBABLY [14:00] RELY TO SOME EXTENT ON YOUR [14:03] EXPERTISE IN THAT AREA. [14:05] I'M SORRY, MAYOR, DO YOU HAVE A [14:07] COMMENT? [14:08] >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. [14:11] I'VE GOT A COMMENT ON THE [14:13] POTENTIAL WORK PLAN PROJECTS, IF [14:14] THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING OVER [14:16] NOW. [14:16] >> YES. [14:17] >> SO THESE ARE ALL ITEMS THAT I [14:22] WOULD ARGUE COULD BE DONE OR [14:25] WOULD NEED TO BE DONE IN [14:28] GENERAL. [14:28] THE QUESTION IS WHETHER SEVERAL [14:29] OF THESE ITEMS ARE DUPLICATIVE. [14:34] AND SO I'LL GIVE YOU, STUFF LIKE [14:37] CLARIFYING AND EXECUTING ALL [14:39] DUTIES LISTED IN THE J.A.Q., [14:41] FAMILIARIZATION WITH THE BUDGET, [14:42] LEVY DEBT, THE GEOGRAPHIC [14:44] ANALYSES, ALL THAT WOULD BE, I [14:46] WOULD ARGUE, WITHIN THE PURVIEW [14:49] OF THIS PARTICULAR POSITION. [14:50] THERE ARE OTHER ITEMS HERE, YOU [14:51] KNOW, AND THE MAPPING OF DOLLAR [14:54] FLOWS FROM SALES AND SPECIAL [14:56] TAXES THROUGH D.A.F. AND OTHER [15:00] FUNDS. [15:00] THE FYFD, THE PROJECTED VERSUS [15:02] ACTUAL, HOW LEVY INCREASES ARE [15:05] ADOPTED, THE YEAR-END BALANCE, [15:08] STUFF LIKE THAT. [15:09] IT'S NOT THAT IT SHOULDN'T BE [15:11] PRESENTED HERE. [15:12] IT CERTAINLY CAN BE. [15:13] BUT THAT WORK IS ALREADY DONE BY [15:16] THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT AND THE [15:17] CONCERN IS THAT WE WOULD JUST BE [15:21] HAVING DUPLICATIVE WORK. [15:23] >> THANK YOU FOR THAT INPUT, [15:26] COMMISSIONER FREY. [15:27] I WOULD JUST SAY THAT I HAVEN'T [15:30] SEEN THOSE SPECIFIC THINGS [15:32] SURFACE SO FAR IN MY THREE [15:34] YEARS, AND IF THEY'RE AVAILABLE [15:36] OFF THE SHELF, THEN CERTAINLY IT [15:38] WOULD MAKE SENSE TO PROCEED AS [15:39] YOU SUGGEST. [15:40] >> YES, YES. [15:42] >> AN ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? [15:44] >> AND I'M SORRY, MR. PRESIDENT, [15:47] I BELIEVE -- MAY I? I BELIEVE [15:48] MANY OF THOSE ITEMS ARE [15:51] AVAILABLE LITERALLY OFF THE [15:53] SHELF. [15:53] AND SO CERTAINLY THAT COULD BE [15:55] INFORMATION THAT COULD BE [15:56] PROVIDED. [15:57] >> ALL RIGHT. [15:58] PERHAPS I SHOULD HAVE A [15:59] CONVERSATION WITH THE C.F.O. [16:02] ABOUT MAYBE INFORMATION THAT IS [16:04] AVAILABLE BUT JUST HASN'T BEEN [16:05] PRESENTED -- [16:06] >> THAT COULD BE. [16:06] >> A COMMISSIONER PREE-STINSON. [16:08] >> I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT [16:09] I GENERALLY AGREE WITH WHAT THE [16:11] MAYOR IS SAYING AND KIND OF [16:12] GOING BACK TO WHAT I WAS SAYING [16:14] ABOUT -- I WAS SPECIFICALLY [16:15] SPEAKING TO THAT LATTER PART, [16:18] MAYOR, WHEN I WAS TALKING ABOUT [16:19] THE -- THEY COULD COORDINATE [16:20] WITH THE DEPARTMENT THAT ALREADY [16:21] DOES THAT. [16:22] >> MAKES SENSE. [16:23] >> I THINK THIS PERSON WOULD BE [16:24] ABLE TO -- I THINK ONE OF THE [16:25] THINGS THAT WE ALL NAMED, [16:29] ESPECIALLY FOR PRESIDENT BRANDT [16:30] AND I, BUT REALLY ALL OF US AND [16:32] ANYBODY IN THE ROLE IS, YES, THE [16:33] INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE. [16:35] WE KNOW THAT OUR CURRENT [16:36] PROCESSES GOING THROUGH OUR [16:38] C.F.O. WHO THEN DELEGATES WHO [16:39] GETS US THAT INFORMATION, AND SO [16:42] THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT IS BUSY [16:44] AND TAXED, BUT I THINK WHAT THIS [16:46] INDIVIDUAL WOULD BE DOING -- WE [16:47] CAN CLEAN UP THE LANGUAGE SOME [16:49] -- IS REALLY DISSECTING SOME OF [16:52] THAT TO GIVE THE INFORMATION TO [16:54] US IN A WAY TT'S DIGESTIBLE [16:56] FOR WHAT WE'RE DOING. [16:57] >> MM-HMM. [16:58] >> THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION [16:59] THAT WE GET THAT'S A LITTLE MORE [17:01] IN THE WEEDS AND MAYBE MORE THAN [17:02] WHAT WE NEED. [17:03] IT COULD ALSO BE COORDINATING [17:05] WITH FINANCE DEPARTMENT TO GIVE [17:07] US SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT VERSIONS [17:09] OF THE PRESENTATIONS THAT YOU [17:10] ALL ALREADY GET IN YOUR OTHER [17:12] OFFICIAL CAPACITY, BUT TO GIVE [17:14] US TO US IN A WAY THAT IS MORE [17:17] SPECIFIC TO US. [17:18] AND JUST DISSECT IN IT A [17:19] DIFFERENT WAY. [17:20] AND SO I AGREE WITH YOU IN THAT [17:22] WAY. [17:22] I THINK THAT'S REALLY MORE OF [17:23] WHAT WE'RE GETTING AT THE [17:25] INDIVIDUAL DOING IS REALLY THAT [17:26] COORDINATION AND GIVING US THE [17:29] INFORMATION IN THE WAY THAT'S [17:30] DIGESTIBLE BUT IS ALSO SPECIFIC [17:31] TO WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE SO WE [17:33] DON'T GET LOST IN THE WEEDS AND [17:35] CONFUSED. [17:36] YEAH, I'M IN ALIGN WMENT YOU ON [17:39] THAT. [17:39] >> ALL RIGHT -- I'M IN ALIGNMENT [17:40] WITH YOU ON THAT. [17:41] >> I'LL ASK THE CLERK, WOULD IT [17:43] BE APPROPRIATE TO RECEIVE AND [17:45] FILE THIS OR SIMPLY TO MOVE ON? [17:48] I'M SORRY. [17:49] >> -- SORRY. [17:50] ONE MORE POINT. [17:51] SO THANK YOU. [17:53] AND TO THE VICE PRESIDENT'S [17:55] COMMENTS, THAT MAKES A LOT OF [17:58] SENSE IN THAT A LOT OF THESE [18:01] REPORTS ARE PROVIDED IN FULL BY [18:04] THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT. [18:05] THEY'RE PRETTY LENGTHY. [18:07] I GET BRIEFED ON THEM. [18:08] THE COUNCIL GETS BRIEFED ON [18:10] THEM. [18:10] AND THEN WE GET BRIEFED OFTEN [18:13] TIMES A THIRD TIME IN HERE. [18:14] AND SO TO THE EXTENT, AND I [18:16] BELIEVE THE COUNCIL MEMBERS [18:18] WOULD AGREE, WE CAN HAVE IT MORE [18:20] TAILORED TO B.E.T. AND PERHAPS [18:22] CUT DOWN ON THE LENGTH OF THE [18:24] PRESENTATION THAT WE'VE ALL [18:26] ALREADY RECEIVED SO THAT IT'S A [18:27] BIT MORE TAILORED, THAT WOULD [18:29] MAKE A LOT OF SENSE TO ME. [18:31] IF IT'S A MORE KIND OF B.E.T. [18:35] SPECIFIC DEAL. [18:36] AND THIS, JUST FOR [18:38] CLARIFICATION, THIS IS A [18:39] POTENTIAL WORK PLAN THE THAT [18:40] WE'RE JUST RECEIVING AND FILING [18:42] RIGHT NOW. [18:43] THERE IS NO FORMALIZED VOTE [18:44] GIVEN THAT WE HAVEN'T HIRED THE [18:46] PERSON YET. [18:46] >> NO, SIR. [18:47] >> OKAY, THANK YOU. [18:50] >> COMMISSIONER PREE-STINSON? [18:51] >> ONE OTHER QUICK THING TO THAT [18:55] POINT AS WELL IS I THINK JUST TO [18:57] NAME THAT IT'S IMPORTANT ON BOTH [18:58] OF OUR POINTS THAT I BELIEVE [18:59] THIS IS ALSO GOING TO MAKE OUR [19:02] MEETINGS WAY MORE EFFICIENT. [19:03] ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HAVE [19:06] EXPERIENCED DURING MY TERM IS WE [19:07] GET THE INFORMATION A LITTLE TOO [19:09] LATE AND WE TEND TO ASK A LOT OF [19:11] QUESTIONS THAT PEOPLE AREN'T [19:12] NECESSARILY PREPARED TO ANSWER. [19:13] SO THIS PERSON NOT ONLY WOULD BE [19:14] ABLE TO WORK WITH GIVING US MORE [19:19] ABRIDGED VERSION, SPECIFIC AND [19:20] TAILORED TO US, BUT ALSO COULD [19:21] GET THE INFORMATION TO US [19:23] SOONER. [19:23] IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE WON'T [19:24] HAVE QUESTIONS, BUT WE'LL BE [19:26] BETTER INFORMED AND PREPARED TO [19:27] ACTIVELY PARTICIPATE IN THE [19:29] MEETING. [19:29] THEREFORE, MAKING OUR MEETINGS [19:32] NOT -- NOT SAYING OUR MEETINGS [19:34] ARE INEFFICIENT, BUT I THINK [19:35] THAT WILL MAKE IT A LOT MORE [19:39] EFFICIENT AND BETTER FLOW AND [19:40] COORDINATION AND PROBABLY WON'T [19:41] HAVE TO USE THE NEWLY-ADOPTED [19:44] MEMO SYSTEM WE'RE USING TO GET [19:45] INFORMATION BACK AND FORTH. [19:46] THAT WOULD ELIMINATE THAT. [19:48] THAT WILL UNTAX OUR CLERK'S [19:49] OFFICE. [19:49] IT WILL UNTAX THE FINANCE [19:51] OFFICE. [19:52] AND SO IT SHOULD HELP ALL OF US. [19:54] THIS PERSON IS REALLY A [19:55] COORDINATOR, SO THANK YOU FOR [19:56] BEING IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT. [19:58] AND SO I WOULD ASSUME, MR. [20:00] PRESIDENT, THAT WE WILL COME [20:02] WITH A MORE FORMAL, FINAL [20:04] VERSION THAT WE CAN DPOET VOET [20:04] ON THAT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT THESE [20:06] THINGS AND NARROW IT DOWN. [20:07] AND THEN WE'LL GO FROM THEIR [20:09] QUARTER BE I QUARTER. [20:12] IT'S NEW. [20:12] IT'S DIFFERENT. [20:13] BUT WE'RE ALL ON BOARD AND THIS [20:15] SEEMS TO MAKE A LOT OF SENSE NOW [20:16] THAT WE'RE HERE. [20:17] SO THIS IS A WIN. [20:18] THANK YOU. [20:19] >> OKAY. [20:20] IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? [20:21] ALL RIGHT. [20:21] AND I'LL DEFER TO THE CLERK FOR [20:23] THE APPROPRIATE ACTION. [20:23] DO WE JUST MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM [20:25] OR DO WE RECEIVE AND FILE? [20:27] >> WE'LL RECEIVE AND FILE THIS [20:29] DISCUSSION. [20:29] >> ALL RIGHT. [20:30] THANK YOU. [20:30] ALL RIGHT. [20:31] THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS [20:35] ANNOUNCEMENTS. [20:35] DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY UPDATES [20:37] OTHER THAN THE ONE THAT [20:39] COMMISSIONER PREE-STINSON GAVE [20:40] EARLIER ON THE HIRING PROCESS? [20:46] OKAY. [20:46] AND WE HAVE NO PUBLIC COMMENT TO [20:50] ACCEPT. [20:50] AND SO I SEE NO FURTHER BUSINESS [20:52] BEFORE THE BOARD, AND WITHOUT [20:55] OBJECTION, WE STAND ADJOURNED. [20:58] [GAVEL]. [20:58] . [20:58] .