[1:51] >> GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS LATONYA REEVES AND I'M THE CHAIR [1:59] OF THE COMMUNITY COMMISSION ON POLICE OVERSIGHT. I WANT TO REMIND THE PUBLIC THAT THESE MEETINGS ARE BROADCAST [2:06] LIVE TO ENABLE GREATER PARTICIPATION. THESE MEETINGS INCLUDE REALTIME CLOSED CAPTIONS TO INCREASE [2:14] ACCESSIBILITY TO THE MEETING TO THE COMMUNITY. THEREFORE BE AWARE OF THE RAT OF YOUR SPEECH SO OUR CAPTIONERS CAN FULLY CAPTURE AND TRANSCRIBE [2:21] ALL COMMENTS FOR THE BROADCAST. WE ASK THE SPEAKERS TO MODIFY THE CLARITY AND SPEED OF THEIR [2:27] COMMENTS. I'M GOING TO CALL TO ORDER THE SPECIAL MEETING FOR TUESDAY, MAY 13TH AND ASK THE CLERK TO [2:32] CALL THE ROLL TO VERIFY QUORUM. >> COMMISSIONER SCHANFIELD. [2:38] >> PRESENT. >> NEWMAN. >> PRESENT. [2:45] >> STEWART IS ABSENT. GURIAN-SHERMAN. [2:50] >> PRESENT, JUST AS I WOULD HAVE BEEN LAST WEEK IF THE MEETING ROLL CALL HAD BEEN DONE. [2:57] >> CANADAY. >> PRESENT. >> WILLIAMS-JOHNSON. [3:03] >> PRESENT. >> SMITH IS ABNT. [3:08] VICE CHAIR OLSEN. >> PRESENT. >> CHAIR REEVES. >> PRESENT. >> WE HAVE EIGHT PRESENT. >> LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT [3:14] WE HAVEQUORUM. WE MISSED ONE. >> I APOLOGIZE. [3:26] STEWART. >> SMITH-KOOIMAN. >> OH, I APOLOGIZE, COMMISSIONER SMITH-KOOIMAN. >> PRESENT. >> WE HAVE NINE PRESENT. [3:32] >> AGAIN LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT WE HA QUORUM. COMMISSIONERS, THE AGENDA FOR [3:38] THIS EVENING'S MEETING IS BEFORE US. AS THIS IS A SPECIAL MEETING, WE ARE LIMITED TO TH ITEMS POSTED ON THE AGENDA. [3:45] WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE AGENDA IS ADOPTED AS IS. >> I DO HAVE OBJECTION. >> THIS IS A SPECIAL MEETING, [3:51] THIS IS NOT A REGULAR MEETING ON THE COMMISSION. >> UNFORTUNATELY AT THE LAST MEETING WE WERE SUPPOSED TO [3:58] APPROVE THIS -- THE AGENDA FOR THIS MEETING AND SINCE THAT MEETING WAS CANCELED PREMATURELY [4:04] AND ERRONEOUSLY, WE DIDN'T APPROVE THE AGENDA. IT SAYS ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA [4:10] ON THE AGENDA AND I HAVE AN OBJECTION TO THIS AGENDA BEING PASSED THE WAY IT IS. [4:17] >> COMMISSIONER GURIAN-SHERMAN, THE MEETING THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO [4:24] PPEN IN MAY WAS CANCELED. >> THIS MEETING WAS ON THE AGENDA TO BE PASSED. THE AGENDA WAS TO BE PASSED. [4:31] >> COMMISSIONER, I'M TELLING YOU [4:37] WE DIDN'T HAVE QUORUM FOR THE PREVIOUS MEETING SO WE WILL HAVE THAT MEETING IN JUNE. >> WE DON'T KNOW IF WE HAD A [4:44] QUORUM OR NOT. >> COMMISSIONER I HAVE [4:52] CONFIRMED THOSE MEMBERS WERE NOT ABLE TO BE PRESENT. UNFORTUNATELY PEOPLE WERE NOT FEELING WELL. I HOPE THEY FEEL BETTER TODAY. THANK YOU. [4:57] >> THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU DON'T HAVE ROLL CALL. FURTHER, THE PUBLIC HAS BEEN SHUT OUT OF THREE MEETINGS IN [5:04] SIX MONTHS. >> POINT OF ORDER, THERE'S NO DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM. [5:09] >> WE HAVE A RIGHT TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE BEGINNING OF THIS AGENDA. THAT IS MY OBJECTION. >> YOUR OBJECTION IS NOTED. [5:15] WE WILL MOVE ON. THIS IS A SPECIAL MEETING, IT IS FOR THE PUBLIC TO HAVE COMMENT. THIS IS THEIR MEETING TODAY. [5:20] THANK YOU. OUR FIRST ITEM IS A PRESENTATION ON CCPO WHICH I'LL BE STARTING [5:28] OFF. MAY 25, 2025, MARKS FIVE YEARS SINCE THE MURDER OF GEORGE FLOYD. A MOMEN THAT IGNITED A GLOBAL [5:34] MOVEMENT FOR RACIAL JUSTICE AND POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY. HIS DEATH ALONG WITH THOSE OF [5:40] BRIANNA TAYLOR,LIJAH McCLAIN, [5:45] AMIR LOCKE, AND COUNTLESS OTHERS HIGHLIGHT THE CHALLENGES OF ADDRESSING POLICE CULTURE AND [5:51] INEQUITIES WITHIN LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT IMPACT OUR MOST MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES. THESE TRAGEDIES HAVE IMPACTED US [5:57] ALL AS WE WORK TOWARDS SUSTAINED POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY, POLICE REFORMS AND SOCIAL JUSTICE, NOT [6:02] ONLY IN MINNEAPOLIS BUT ACROSS THE COUNTRY. THEIR NAMES AND STORIES HAVE BEEN SYMBOLS OF A MOVEMENT THAT [6:08] CONTINUES TO PUSH FOR TRUTH, DIGNITY, AND RECOGNITION. TODAY, WE TAKE A MOMENT OF SILENCE TO HONOR THE LIFE OF [6:15] GEORGE FLOYD. I WOULD ASK EVERYONE IF YOU COULD PLEASE STAND AND DO A MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR GEORGE FLOYD AND EVERYONE ELSE. [6:33] I APPRECIATE IT, THANK YOU. WE ARE UNABLE TO SHOW THE [6:39] PRESENTATION ON THIS SCREEN, SO YOU WILLEED TO LOOK TO THE SIDE WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE [6:44] PRESENTATION. THE COMMUNITY COMMISSION ON POLICE OVERSIGHT IS MADE UP OF 15 MEMBERS. 13 APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL [6:50] AND TWO BY THE MAYOR. THE COMMISSION ELECTS A CHAIR AND A VICE CHAIR AT ITS FIRST [6:56] REGULAR MEETING. THESE OFFICERS HELP PLAN, ORGANIZE, AND COORDINATE THE WORK OF THE COMMISSION ON BEHALF OF ITS MEMBERS. [7:02] WHILE THE CCPO IS REQUIRED TO MEET ONLY EIGHT TIMES A YEAR, WE OFTEN MEET MORE FREQUENTLY. [7:08] WE ARE COMMITTED TO ENSURING THE CCPO STAYS INFORMED AND UTILIZES ALL AVENUES OF INFLUENCE. [7:14] THE CCPO ALSO OPERATES TWO STANDING COMMITTEES. POLICE POLICY, RESEARCH, AND [7:20] RECOMMENDATIONS, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS PPRR AND THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT COMMITTEE OTHERWISE [7:25] . BOTH COMMITTEES MEET MONTHLY AND ARE ALSO SUBJECT TO MINNESOTA'S OPEN MEETING LAW. IN ADDITION TO CCPO COMMITTEE [7:33] MEETINGS, WE ALSO HOST AN ANNUAL PUBLIC HEARING TO GATHER COMMUNITY INPUT ON POLICE DEPARTMENT POLICIES, PRACTICES, [7:38] RULES, AND SPECIAL ORDERS. WE ARE EMERGING FROM OUR INFANCY AND WE CONTINUE TO BRAINSTORM [7:44] HOW TO FOSTER COMMUNITY INPUT. COMMISSIONERS COMMIT TIME NOT ONLY TO MEETINGS, BUT ALSO TO [7:49] ONING TRAINING INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO MINNESOTA DATA [7:55] PRACTICES, IMPLICIT BIAS AND ETHICS. THESE TRAININGS HELP COMMISSIONERS STAY INFORMED AND EFFECTIVE IN THEIR OVERSIGHT [8:02] RULE. THIS SLIDE OUTLINES THE CORE RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE CCPO, BUT THE COMMISSION SEES THIS AS JUST A STAING POINT. [8:07] OUR COMMITMENT GOES BEYOND WHAT IS DETAILED HERE. [8:13] ON THIS SLIDE ARE THE FUNCTIONS OF THE CCPO. WE HAVE THREE CORE FUNCTIONS, WE SERVE ON PANELS TO REVIEW [8:19] INVESTIGATIONS OF POLICE OFFICER MISCONDUCT. WE PROVIDE A PUBLIC FORUM FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IN POLICE OVERSIGHT. [8:24] AND WE MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE MAYOR, THE CITY COUNCIL, AND THE POLICE CHIEF. [8:35] PREVIOUSLY THERE WAS A JOINT CIVIL OVERSIGHT STRUCTURE FOR THE MINNEAPOLIS POLICE DEPARTMENT. HOWEVER THE CITY WILL ELIMINATE [8:43] THE JOINT SUPERVISOR STRUCTURE AND THE OFFICE OF POLICE CONDUCT REVIEW, SO THAT EACH DECISION [8:48] MAKING AUTHORITY INDEPENDENT OF EACH OTHER AND WHETHER TO [8:53] DISMISS OR INVESTIGATE ANY POLICE MISCONDUCT COMPLAINT WITHIN ITS RESPECTE JURISDICTION AND WITHIN THE [8:59] SCOPE OF ANY INVESTIGATION. THE OVERSIGHT STRUCTURE OF THE MINNEAPOLIS POLICE DEPARTMENT IS MADE UP OF THREE ENTITIES, [9:05] INTERNAL AFFAIRS WHO HANDLES THE INTERNAL COMPLIANCE AND COMPLAINTS AND IS HOUSED WITHIN [9:10] MPD. THE OFFICE OF POLICE CONDUCT REVIEW, WHICH IS KNOWN AS OPCR WHO HANDLESXTERNAL COMPLAINTS AND IS HOUSED WITHIN THE CIVIL [9:17] RIGHTS DEPARTMENT. AND THE CITY AUDITOR WHO HAS JURISDICTION OVER THE CITY COUNCIL AND OVER EACH BOARD, [9:24] COMMISSION, COMMITTEE, DEPARTMENT, OFFICER, EMPLOYEE, AND OTHER AGENCY OR AGENT WHO [9:29] MUST COOPERATE WITH ANY AUDIT OR INQUIRY AND FURNISH ANY INFORMATION THAT THE AUDITOR [9:35] REQUESTS. THE CCPO COMES IN AT STAGE THREE OF THE COMPLAINT LIFE CYCLE. [9:40] PENDING ON THE SOURCE OF THE COMPLAINT, IT IS INITIALLY HANDLED EITHER BY INTERNAL AFFAIRS OR THE OFFICE OF POLICE [9:46] CONDUCT REVIEW. EACH COMPLAINT UNDERGOES A THOROUGH INVESTIGATION. ONCE THE INVESTIGATION IS [9:52] COMPLETE, THE CASE GOES TO THE REVIEW PANEL WHO THEN MAKES A RECOMMENDATION TO THE POLICE CHIEF ON WHETHER THE ALLEGATIONS [9:58] OF MISCONDUCT ARE SUSTAINED. THE REVIEW PANEL PROCESS AIMS TO [10:03] PROVIDE A FAIR AND THOROUGH INVESTIGATION OF POLICE MISCONDUCT COMPLAINTS INVOLVING [10:08] BOTH CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT AND INTERNAL POLICE REVIEW TO MAINTAIN PUBLIC TRUST AND INTEGRITY IN LAW ENFORCEMENT. [10:13] EACH REVIEW PANEL CONSISTS OF FIVE MEMBERS, TWO ARE POLICE OFFICERS WITH THE RANKS OF [10:18] LIEUTENANT OR HIGHER AND THREE ARE CIVILIANS FROM THE COMMUNITY COMMISSION ON POLICE OVERSIGHT. [10:24] DUE TO A RECENT ORDINANCE CHANGE, MEMBERS OF THE MINNEAPOLIS COMMISSION ON CIVIL RIGHTS WHO HAVE SATISFIED THE [10:30] ELIGIBILITY AND TRAINING REQUIREMENTS CAN SIT ON REVIEW PANELS THROUGH THE END OF 2025. [10:36] THIS WILL PROVIDE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES AND BANDWIDTH TO WORK THROUGH THESE CASES. IN 2024, THE CCPO REVIEWED 19 [10:46] CASES, LARGELY TOWARDS THE SECOND HALF OF THE YEAR WHEN STAFF WAS ADDED TO OPCR. [10:51] IN 2025 WITH EVEN MORE STAFF SUPPORT AND EXPERIENCE IN REVIEWING CASES, WE'VE ALREADY REVIEWED 28 CASES IN THE FIRST [10:59] FIVE MONTHS SHOWING INCREASING STEADY PROGRESS. SITTING ON REVIEW PANELS IS ONE [11:05] OF THE KEY FUNCTIONS OF E CCPO COMMISSIONERS AND ENSURES THERE IS ACCURATE COMMUNITY OVERSIGHT [11:10] ON POLICING. CASES DO VARY SIGNIFICANTLY. SOME MAY INCLUDE AINGLE OFFICER WITH THREE ALLEGATIONS, [11:17] WHILE OTHERS MAY INCLUDE TEN OFFICERS EACH WITH MULTIPLE ALLEGATIONS. THE REVIEW PANEL IS ASSIGNED A [11:23] CASE AT AST SEVEN BUSINESS DAYS BEFORE THE PANEL REVIEW SESSION. REVIEWING A CASE FILE CAN TAKE UP TO FIVE HOURS DEPENDING ON [11:29] ITS COMPLEXITY, THOUGH SOME CASES HAVE REQUIRE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE TIME. PANEL DELIBERATION CAN TAKE UP [11:34] TO TWO HOURS PER CASE. FOR THE 24 CASES REVIEWED SO FAR, EACH PANELIST HAS CONTRIBUTED AT LEAST 72 HOURS OF [11:41] WORK. THE RECRUITMENT PROCESS WAS INITIATED TO FILL THE FOLLOWING [11:48] VACANT SEATS THAT WERE VIE KATED PRIOR TO THE END OF THEIR TERM, [11:54] 1, 7, 11, AND 12. THE FOLLOWING SEATS WHOSE TERMS WILL END MAY 31, 2025, INCLUDE [12:02] 2, 3, 6, 9, AND 14. IF YOU'D LIKE TO BE A PART OF THE CCPO, WE ARE SEEKING APPLICANTS FROM WARD 9 TO JOIN [12:09] US. THAT INCLUDES COCHRAN, PHILLIPS, MIDTOWN PHILLIPS HOWELL, AND [12:18] LONG FELLOW PARKS. ACCESS THE APPLICATIONS WITH THE QR CODE ON THE SCREEN. THE NEXT CCPO MEETING IS MONDAY, [12:25] JUNE 9TH AT 6:00 P.M. AT THE PUBLIC SERVICE CENTER IN ROOM 350. WE ALWAYS INCLUDE A PUBLIC [12:30] COMMENT DURING OUR REGULAR MEETINGS SO YOU'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE INPUT THERE AS WELL. I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO THE [12:36] CHAIR OF THE POLICE POLICY RESEARCH AND RECOMMENDATIONS COMMITTEE, COMMIIONER SCHANFIELD. [12:42] >> THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIR REEVES. [12:50] MY NAME IS MARA. I'M PLEASED TO KICK THINGS OFF ON BEHALF OF THE CURRENT POLICE RESEARCH AND RECOMMENDATIONS [12:58] COMMITTEE. THANKS TO COMMISSIONERS CANADAY, WILLIAMS-JOHNSON, AND OLSEN, AND OUR OPCR REP. [13:04] THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION AND YOUR TEAMWORK. I ALSO WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT [13:09] TO THE FORMER MEMBERS OF THIS WORK GROUP, COMMISSIONERS [13:17] BASTICK, REEVES, STURM, GURIAN-SHERMAN, AND FROM OPCR, THEY HAVE ALL BEEN VERY HELPFUL [13:24] AND HELPED US GET TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY. [13:29] SO I'M GOING TO SHARE THREE BIG THINGS, ONE, HOW WE GOT HERE, WHERE WE ARE. TWO HOW WE WORK AND THREE WHAT [13:36] WE'VE LEARNED SO FAR. AND THEN I'LL INVITE MY FELLOW COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO SHARE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS AND THINGS WE'VE [13:41] PROPOSED AND GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF THE POLICIES THAT WE'LL LOOK AT TOGETHER TONIGHT BEFORE OPENING [13:48] UP FOR PUBLIC MMENT. I'LL GIVE YOU THIS QUICK HISTORY HERE IN THREE CHAPTERS. CHAPTER ONE, THE VERY BEGINNING [13:55] WE WERE AS A WORK GROUP, WE STARTED IN AUGUST 2023. WE WERE EAGER TO LEARN, BUT WE HAD VERY LIMITED RESOURCES. [14:01] AND WE WERE A WORKING GROUP, THAT'S WHAT THE ORDINANCE REQUIRED. I'M NOT A COMMITTEE. [14:09] THAT WAS A BIG DISTINCTION. IN PARTNERSHIP WITH OPCR, WE DID [14:16] SEVERAL THINGS. WE REVIEWED PARTNERSHIPS WITH OTHER CITIES NEWARK, NEW [14:22] ORLEANS, BALTIMORE, CLEVELAND, AND SEATTLE. WE ADOPTED A FORMAL RESEARCH AND STUDY PROCESS. [14:28] WE REVAMPED THE PROCESS AND ADDED FIFTH PHASE FOR ACCOUNTABILITY TO INVITE THE POLICE CHIEF TO COME BACK AND [14:34] LET US KNOW HOW THINGS WERE IMPLEMENTED OR IF NOT, WHY NOT. WE REVIEWED THE IMPLEMENTATION [14:41] UNIT ANALYSES FROM THE SUMMER AND FALL FOCUS GROUPS. WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE UP TO DATE ON ALL OF THE [14:46] INPUTS, ALL OF THE DATA. CHAPTER TWO, I'LL CALL THAT GROWING WITH GUIDANCE. [14:52] EVERY TIME THERE WERE NEW STAFF ADDED TO THE CITY, IT POSITIVELY ADDED TO OUR ABILITY AND OUR [15:01] CAPACITY FROM GUIDANCE FROM YOU WELL. LAST MAY, IF YOU WERE HERE, I [15:08] SEE SOME FAMILIAR FACES, LAST MAY WE HEARD YOU LOUD AND CLEAR, THE MESSAGE WE RECEIVED AS THE WORKING GROUP AT THAT POINT WAS [15:14] THAT WE HADN'T LOOKED AT THE POLICIES ENOUGH. AND THAT WAS REALLY HELPFUL. WE TAKE OUR ORDERS OR [15:21] COLLABORATIVELY WORK WITH YOU. SO WE WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT YOUR FEEDBACK GAVE US SOME GUIDANCE [15:26] AND WE HAVE GROWN AS A RESULT. THEN THE FINAL CHAPTER HERE WHICH BRINGS US TO TODAY I A [15:32] FUNCTIONAL STRUCTURE. THE ORDINANCE WAS UPDATED IN AUGUST 2024. THAT MOVED US TO OFFICI [15:39] COMMITTEE STATUS. SO THOSE ARE OPEN MEETINGS AS THE CHAIR MENTIONED. WE MEET MONTHLY. [15:48] MR. CASEY STEPPED IN TO TEACH US THE ROPES WITH PROCEDURES AND [15:54] SCHEDULES. AND THANK YOU FOR HELPING US BECOME A FUNCTIOL COMMITTEE. WE HAVE REALLY ARRIVED AT THAT [15:59] LEVEL. WE'RE SCHEDULED TO MEET 8 TO 10 TIMES, I SAID MONTHLY, BUT MORE [16:05] OR LS. AND WE'VE MET FOUR TIMES SO FAR. WE'VE PRODUCED TWO REPORTS, PERHAPS YOU'VE SEEN THEM. [16:12] AND OUR POLICY FEEDBACK WE SUBMIT, COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS-JOHNSON WILL SHARE YOU IN A MOMENT SOME DETAILS WITH [16:18] THAT. BUT WE ALSO REALLY WANT YOUR [16:23] FEEDBACK TONIGHT. AND WHAT WE COME AWAY WITH TONIGHT WILL INFORM OUR THIRD [16:30] REPORT. BECAUSE IT REALLY DOES THE BEST WE CAN TO UPLIFT THE CCPO'S VALUES OF INTEGRITY AND [16:37] TRANSPARENCY. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AS A PPRR, OUR VALUE ADD IS AN [16:45] EXTENSION OF THE VALUED WORK OF CCPO AND MAKING SURE THE [16:51] POLICIES OF MPD COMMUNICATE THE WORK WE'VE BEEN ENGAGED IN AND EVERYTHING THE CHAIR HAS [16:56] DETAILED. WE BRING A CIVILIAN LEE COMMITTED TO IMPROVING POLICE POLICY. [17:01] WE, AS THE COMMITTEE, OUR CHARGE IS TO IDENTIFY ISSUES RELATED TO POLI POLICY AND MAKE SPECIFIC [17:07] RECOMMENDATIONS. WE ALSO PARTNER WITH OPCR ON RESEARCH AND STUDY TOPICS AND SHARE WHAT WE LEARN WITH YOU, [17:13] THE PUBL. WE ALSO TRY TO MAKE PARTICIPATING IN POLICY REVIEW MORE ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC BY [17:18] KEEPING YOU INFORMED, COMMUNICATING WHAT WE LEARN TO YOU, AND INVITING YOUR FEEDBACK [17:25] AND YOUR GUIDANCE. OUR PROCESS, WE DO OUR HOMEWORK. WE PULL TOGETHER WHICH POLICIES [17:31] WE'RE GOING TO REVIEW. WE LOOK AT THEM IN ADVANCE, AND THEN WE USE A LIGHTWEIGHT [17:37] PROTOCOL DURING OUR MEETINGS TO GIVE TIME TO REVIEW THE POLICIES, TO EACH GIVE OUR [17:43] NOTICES, OUR WONDERINGS, AND CLARIFY WHAT KINDS OF RECOMMENDATIONS WE'D LIKE TOUT [17:49] ON PAPER AND COME TO AGREEMENT ABOUT. WE BRING OUR RECOMMENDATIONS TO THIS FULL BODY OF CCPO, AND WE [17:54] MAKE ANY REVISIONS AND WE SUBMIT THE FEEDBACK TO MPD IMPLEMENTATION UNIT. [18:01] IN ADDITION TO OUR PARTNERS AT OPCR, WE'VE H THE PARTICIPATION OF THE CITY ATTORNEY AND THE MPD [18:07] IMPLEMENTATION UNIT AND THE CLERK. WE APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT IN MAKING THESE MEETINGS HAPPEN AND YOUR PARTNERSHIP IS INVALUABLE. [18:14] SO TO MAXIMIZE OUR INPUT, WE LOOKED AT A VARIETY OF POLICIES, SOME HAD BEEN REVIEWED, SOME WERE IN DRAFT, SOME WERE TOO [18:21] LONG, SOMEERE TOO SHORT. THE POLICE POLICY MANUAL IF YOU'VE LOOKED AT IT IS OVER 700 [18:28] PAGES LONG SO WE KNEW WE HAD TO START SOMEWHERE AND WE WOULD LEARN ALONG THE WAY. SO WE HAVE LEARNED A LOT. I'LL SHARE JUST BRIEFLY A COUPLE [18:34] OF THINGS, AND THEN MY SPECIFICS AS I SAID.E SOME MORE [18:40] SO IT SHOULD BE SAID HERE AT THIS MOMENT THAT WE RESPECT THE EXPERTISE OF THE PARTIES TO THE [18:47] SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, THE MINNESOTA HUMAN RIGHTS DEPARTMENT AND REPRESENTATIVES [18:52] OF THOSE AGENCIES, AS WELL AS THE COURT-APPOINTED OVERSIGHT MONITOR, ALEFA, AND THE CITY [19:03] ATTORNEY, THE MPD ILEMENTATION UNIT, MPD ITSELF, AND THE CIVIL RIGHTS DEPARTMENT AS I [19:08] MENTIONED. WE DIDN'T KNOW IF OUR CIVILIAN VIEW OF POLICY WAS HELPFUL, USEFUL, ADEQUATE. [19:14] WE THOUGHT THAT THE EXPERTS MAYBE SHOULD BE THE ONES REVIEWING THE POLICIES. THEN WE CAME TO REALIZE THAT [19:20] THROUGH OUR LENSES, OUR OWN LIVED EXPERIENCES, THAT UNDERSTANDING THE POLICY WAS REALLY IMPORTANT AND WE WOULD [19:27] SEE THINGS THAT THE OFFICIALS AND THE OVERSIGHT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY PICK UP. SO THAT'S THE TYPE OF FEEDBACK [19:32] THAT WE PROVIDE. AND MOVING FORWARD, WE'RE TAKING A MORE COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH TO POLICY AND RESEARCH. [19:38] SO WHAT YOU'LL SEE GOING FORWARD IS IN ADDITION TO REVIEWING POLICIES AS THEY'RE BEING [19:44] REVIEWED UNDER THE CITY SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT, WE WILL TAKE A PROACTIVE APPROACH IN [19:50] IDENTIFYING POLICY GAPS AS WELL AS REVIEWING ANY POLICIES WE COME ACROSS IN REVIEW PANELS THAT CAUSE CONFUSION. [19:55] SO ANYTIME THAT WE SEE A DISCONNECT OR IF WE SEE A PARTICULAR POLICY COMING UP OVER AND OVER AGAIN IN REVIEW PANELS, [20:02] THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO TAKE NOTEF AND REALLY EXAMINE FURTHER. [20:08] ALMOST DONE HERE, COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS-JOHNSON. ONE MORE MOMENT HERE, I WILL PASS YOU THE MIC. [20:14] LAST WEEK, OPCR INTRODUCED THE NEW CASE SYNOPSES WHICH WILL BE [20:21] FILED MONTHLY IN LIMS. I INVITE YOU TO LOOK AT THOSE. IT WILL BE MONTHLY IN OUR [20:28] COMMITTEE AGENDAS UNTIL I.T. GIVES IT A HOME OF ITS OWN. [20:33] WE PLAN TO USE THIS DEEPLY IN OUR MEETINGS TO TRACK TRENDS AND EXPLORE ANY POLICIES THAT MAY BE [20:39] WORDED UNCLEARLY OR NEED ADDITIONAL SUPPORT. SO THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR YOUR [20:44] PARTICIPATION TONIGHT. WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING YOUR FEEDBACK ON THE POLICIES. I'LL PASS THE MIC TO [20:49] COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS-JOHNSON. >> THANK YOU. MY NAME IS MICHELLE [20:55] WILLIAMSOHNSON, I REPRESENT WARD 13. SO FAR OUR COMMITTEE, WE HAVE [21:01] REVIEWED 17 POLICIES WITHIN FIVE CATEGORIES. AND THE CATEGORIES ARE [21:06] ACCOUNTABILITY, BODY-WORN CAMERAS, RECRUITMENT AND TRAINING, STOP, SEIZURES AND [21:12] ARREST, AND USE OF FORCE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. [21:20] AND THE THEMES FROM OUR RECOMMENDATIONS AS YOU CAN SEE, POLICIES SHOULD PROVIDE CLEAR [21:27] AND CONCISE EXPECTATIONS, A THE PUBLIC, WE EXPECT OUR [21:34] INTERACTIONS WITH OFFICERS TO BE [21:39] COURTEOUS, AND WE AIM TO STRIKE A BALANCE BETWEEN POLICIES THAT [21:44] ARE TOO BROAD MAKING ACCOUNTABILITY DIFFICULT ATO [21:50] REALLY CONCISE THAT. WE ASK THE PUBLIC IF YOU HAVE A POLICY OR A POLICY QUESTION, [21:58] PLEASE REACH OUT TO THE COMMISSIONER THAT REPRESENTS YOUR AWARD, AND THEY WILL CONTACT US AND WE WILL LOOK AT [22:04] THAT POLICY AND SEE WHAT COULD BE CHANGED OR NEEDED OR ADDED. AND WITH THAT, I INVITE [22:15] COMMISSIONER PAUL. >> I'M PAUL OLSEN, VICE CHAIR AND MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE THAT DOES THE POLICY REVIEW. [22:29] AND I WANT TO CALL TO ATTENTION TWO POLICIES, ONE IS POLICY [22:35] 5-104 WHICH CONCERNS NONDISCRIMINATORY POLICING, THE OTHER IS FIVE WILL HAVE 109 WHICH CONCERNS PROCEDURAL [22:40] JUSTICE AND PROFESSIONAL POLICING. I BELIEVE THERE ARE COPIES AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE TO REVIEW HERE. [22:50] WE'RE PRESENTING THESE POLICIES TONIGHT BECAUSE THEY ARE STILL [22:58] IN THE REVIEW PROCESS. THEY'RE IN DRAFT FORM, THEY'RE ACTIVELY BEING WORKED ON BY THE [23:06] IMPLEMENTATION TEAM AND OTHERS. OUR COMMITTEE HAS REVIEWED THEM AND STUDIED THEM, AND THERE IS [23:12] STILL TIME FOR THE PUBLIC TO ADD THEIR COMMENTS AND THOUGHTS ON THESE TWO POLICIES. [23:23] AND WE WILL OF COURSE TAKE ANY THOUGHTS YOU HAVE ON THAT TONIGHT. OUR NEXT STEPS ON THESE POLICIES [23:28] ARE TO BRING OUR RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE FULL COMMISSION ON JUNE 9TH WHERE WE HOPE THE [23:35] COMMISSION WILL MAKE A DECISION ON WHAT FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS [23:40] WE'LL GIVE TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. [23:46] NONDISCRIMINATORY POLICING POLICY. THE BASICS OF THAT POLICY ARE AS [23:54] FOLLOWS. ONE, EVERY POLICE OFFICER SHALL PERFORM THEIR DUTIES IN A FAIR AND EFFECTIVE MANNER. [24:00] TWO DISCRIMINATION ON THE BASE OF CLASS IS PROHIBITED. AND THREE, OFFICERS MAY NOT USE LANGUAGE OR TAKE ACTIONS TO [24:05] TAUNT OR DENEGRADE A PERSON [24:11] INCLUDING USING RACIST OR DEROGATORY LANGUAGE. THERE'S A LOT MORE IN THIS POLICY WE WON'T GO INTO DETAIL [24:17] ON. WE THOUGHT AS A COMMITTEE THAT THE POLICY WAS A GOO STEP FORWARD. IT WAS WELL DESIGNED, WELL [24:27] DRAFTED, AND OUR COMMENTS WILL BE RELATIVELY MINOR. [24:32] AMONG OTHER THINGS, THIS POLICY PROHIBITS ALL FORMS OF RACIAL PROFILING. IT ACCOMPLISHES DUTIES TO [24:40] INTERVENE AND REPORT WHEN AN OFFICER OBSERVES ANOTHER OFFICER ENGAGING IN ANY DISCRIMINATORY [24:50] CONDUCT. AND IT REQUIRES SUPERVISORS TO HELP IMPLEMENT THE POLICY BY [24:55] BOTH TRAINING THE OFFICERS AND OBSERVING AND ENFORCING THE [25:01] NONDISCRIMINATION POLICY. THE SECOND POLICY WE REVIEWED [25:09] RELATES TO PROCEDURAL JUSTICE. THAT POLICY SEEKS TO BUILD AND ENHANCE PUBLIC TRUST BY ENSURING [25:15] THAT POLICE OFFICERS TREAT PEOPLE WITH FAIRNESS. NOT EVERYBODY, INCLUDING MYSELF, [25:22] IS TREMENDOUSLY FAMILIAR WITH THE CONCEPTS OF PROCEDURAL JUSTICE. BUT IT IS BASED ON FOUR PILLARS. [25:35] AT MPD THOSE ARE VOICE, NEUTRALITY, RESPECT, AND [25:40] TRUSTWORTHINESS. VOICE MEANS LISTENING TO PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERACTING WITH POLICE OFFICERS. GIVE THEM THEIR VOICE. [25:46] NEUTRALITY MEANS OFFICERS SHOULD BE FAIR IN THEIR INTERACTIONS. RESPECT REQUIRES OFFICERS TO TREAT PEOPLE WITH [25:51] PROFESSIONALISM, UNDERSTANDING AND TRANSPARENCY. ACTULY THAT IS [25:57] TRUSTWORTHINESS, AND RESPECT REQUIRES TREATING PEOPLE WITH [26:05] DIGNITY. THE COMMITTEE SUPPORTS THIS POLICY AND REALLY APPRECIATES [26:11] THE WORK OF ELEFA AND THE IMPLEMENTATION TEAM IN DRAFTING A STEP FORWARD IN PROCEDURAL [26:17] JUSTICE. ONE FINAL REMINDER THAT THE CITY [26:22] IS STILL TAKING COMMENTS ON THESE POLICIES AND ANYONE CAN ADD THEIR THOUGHTS. [26:28] SPEAKING ATHIS HEARING, USING THE POLICY REVIEW WEBSITE BY THAT QR CODE, OR JUST ABOUT ANY [26:35] OTHER WAY YOU WANT TO COMMUNICATE INCLUNG EMAIL. NEXT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO COMMISSIONER CANADAY. [26:45] >> GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. MY NAME IS JAMES CANADAY FROM WARD 10. [26:51] I'M GOING TO GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE FINAL POLICY WE'RE GOING TO HIGHLIGHT [26:56] TONIGHT. AS IT WAS TRUE WITH THE TWO COMMISSIONER OLSEN JUST SPOKE OF IS CURRENTLY UNDER REVIEW. [27:01] POLICY 9-100 IS TITLED CITATIONS [27:06] AND ARRESTS. THE POLICY IS APPROXIMATELY 25 PAGES AND COVERS A NUMBER OF THE [27:15] DETAILS CONCERNING ARRESTS AND HOW THEY'RE CARRIED OUT AND THINGS THAT ARE PROHIBITED. JUST TO NAME AOUPLE OF THE [27:20] SECTIONS HERE TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE TOPICS COVERED, WE'VE GOT A CITATIONS AND ARREST [27:27] POLICY, BOOKING AUTHORIZATI AND PROCEDURES, HANDCUFFING AND [27:35] TRANSPORTATION OF RESTEES, AND POLICE AUTHORITY AND IMMIGRATION [27:41] MATTERS. ONE SECTION TO PARTICULARLY BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION IS IN THE MMITTEE'S DISCUSSION OF THE POLICY WE FOUND IMPORTANT [27:47] THERE'S A SIGNIFICANTLY EXPANDED SECTION CALLED SUPERVISOR REVIEW OF ARREST AND CITATIONS. [27:53] AND I WOULD SUMMARIZE IT AS A DETAILED SECTION REQUIRING [27:58] SPECIFIC ACTIONS AND TIMELINES FOR SUPERVISORREVIEW. AND MENTIONED IN MULTIPLE [28:05] CONTEXTS, THOSE OF US WHO SIT ON REVIEW PANELS HEAR THE PROBLEMS THAT COME UP, BUT WE CAN'T SPEAK [28:11] ABOUT TM BECAUSE THE DETAILS OF THE COMPLAINTS THAT ARE SUBMITTED ARE CONFIDENTIAL. WE NOW HAVE THE SUMMARIES THAT [28:17] ARE GOING TO HELP US TO PUBLICIZE WHAT IS COVERED IN THOSE PANELS. [28:22] BUT THIS IS AN EXPANSION OF SUPERVISORY REVIEW WHICH I THINK IS A POSITIVE DEVELOPMENT. [28:33] AS I SAID, THIS POLICY IS CURRENTLY UNDER REVIEW. IT'S ON THE SAME TIMELINE FOR THE TWO POLICIES COVERED BY [28:40] COMMISSIONER OLSEN WHICH HE MENTIONED WILL BE COVERED AT THE JUNE MEETING. WE WOULD ENCOURAGE YOUR REVIEW OF THIS POLICY. IF YOU HAVE NOT ALREADY, YOU CAN [28:47] SUBMIT COMMENTS AFTER TONIGHT THROUGH THE SAME MECHANISMS. I WILL TURN IT BACK TO COMMISSIONER SCHANFIELD. [28:52] >> THANK YOU. SO JUST A COUPLE OF LOGISTICS, IN A MOMENT WE WILL OPEN UP THE FLOOR FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. [28:58] WE HOPE YOU WILL SHARE WHAT IS ON YOUR HEART AND MIND REGARDING THESE POLICIES THAT COMMISSIONERS OLSEN AND CANADAY [29:05] SO ELOQUENTLY DISCUSSED. NONDISCRIMINATORY POLICING, PROCEDURAL JUSTICE, AND [29:12] CITATIONS AND ARREST. THE MPD IMPLEMENTATION UNIT AND THE CITY ATTORNEY HAVE VERIFIED THAT THEY ARE REQUIRED TO ACCEPT [29:18] FEEDBACK ON AN ONGOING BASIS ON THE POLICE POLICIES WHICH WILL BE REVIEWED AND UPDATED [29:23] REGULARLY. SO IF ANY CIVILIAN OR PARTY WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE INPUT AT ANY TIME, THEY Y. WE HAVE ALLUDED TO THESE AND I [29:29] JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE ACCESS AND ALL OF THE RIGHT INFORMATION. YOU CAN GO TO THE WEBSITE, THAT [29:34] QR CODE WILL ALSO TAKE YOU THERE. YOU CAN ALSO EMAIL, THE ONE [29:40] LIMITATION OF THAT APPROACH IS THAT THE LIMITATION FOR TYPING IN THE BLANKS IS 500 WORD [29:45] SO IF YOU HAVE MORE THAN 500 WORDS TO SAY, I WOULD RECOMMEND EMAILING YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE EMAIL ADDRESS THERE, POLICE [29:55] POLICY FEEDBACK AT MINNEAPOLISMN.GOV. WE WANTED TO SHARE ONE OTHER WAY [30:01] TO GET INVOLVED. THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS IS SEEKING APPLICANTS TO JOIN THE SAFE AND THRIVING COMMUNITIES [30:06] WORK GROUP. MEMBERS WILL PROVIDE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK AS THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPS THE SAFETY ECOSYSTEM. [30:11] THIS IS BUILT ON THE SAFE AND THRIVING COMMUNITIES PLAN [30:19] IDENTIFYG GAPS, IN POLICIES AND BUDGET AND PROVIDING [30:24] FEEDBACK. WE WILL WORK CLOSELY WITH THEM. AND THE APPLICATIONS ARE OPE THROUGH MAY 18TH. [30:30] SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO LEND YOUR [30:35] HAND, PLEASE, PLEASE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE OPPORTUNITIES. SO MUCH LIKE US, IF WHAT BROUGHT [30:41] YOU HERE TONIGHT IS POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY, TRANSPARENCY, COLLABORATION, YOU ARE IN GOOD [30:46] COMPANY. WE ARE ALL HERE FOR THAT REASON. WE ARE CIVILIANS, YOU ARE CIVILIANS, WE ARE HERE TO WORK [30:51] TOGETHER. YOUR VOICE REALLY MATTE AND IN PARTICULAR WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THESE POLICIES. [30:58] WE WILL BE IN LISTEN ONLY MODE. WE HAVE BEEN INSTRUCTED TO DO THAT TONIGHT, SO IF YOU SEE US TAKING NOTES OR WRITING THINGS [31:05] DOWN, THAT IS WHY. WE ARE LISTENING DEEPLY AND INTENTLY, AND THAT IS WHAT WE ARE INSTRUCTED TO DO. WE'RE NOT GNG TO BE [31:11] RESPONDING. SO PLEASE KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT, IT'S NOT A CONVERSATION. [31:16] BUT WE ARE REALLY DELIGHTED TO HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO LISTEN AND TO SHA THE PLATFORM THAT WE HAVE AS COMMISSIONERS WITH [31:22] THE PUBLIC. WE'D REALLY LIKE TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS. SO WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT BACK TO THE CHAIR. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [31:28] ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR COMMISSIONERS? [31:34] COMMISSIONER GURIAN-SHERMAN. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU TO FELLOW COMMISSIONERS FOR THE PRESENTATIONS. [31:39] I DO WANT TO SAY AT THE LAST [31:44] CCPO COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT MEETING, WE DID DISCUSS THE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE AT THIS [31:50] MEETING KNOW THAT THERE ARE QUITE A NUMBER OF NUMERATED POWERS FOR THE CCPO THAT THEY [31:58] MAY UNDERTAKE. THERE'S NO WAY A COMMISSION OF OURS CAN UNDERTAKE THEM ALL IN THE SAME YEAR. [32:04] THEY GO FROM INVESTIGATING RETALIATION TO PROCESSES FOR TRAINING, RECOMMENDATIONS FOR [32:10] T RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE ANNUAL PERFORMANCE REVIEW OF THE POLICE CHIEF. AND THAT IS ONE THAT THE CCPO [32:17] HAS DECIDED TO TAKEON. SO AS YOU DELIVER YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT TONIGHT, YOU CERTAINLY [32:24] CAN COMMENT ON THAT AS WELL. I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE A PRESENTATION ON THAT OR ALL OF THE ENUMERATED [32:30] POWERS IN THE CCPO. BUT YOU CAN LOOK UP THE ORDINANCE AND NOW YOU KNOW THAT'S ON THE TABLE. [32:37] I'D ALSO JUST LIKE TO ASK AS WE DO AT ALL OF THE MEETINGS IF THE STAFF FROM THE OPCR, FROM THE [32:44] POCE DEPARTMENT, CIVIL RIGHTS DIVISION, IF THEY COULD GIVE US THEIR NAMES, THEIR TITLES AND [32:52] WHICH ENTITY THEY'RE WITH, THINK IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL FOR THE PUBLIC TO KNOW WHO THEY'RE ADDRESSING IN ADDITION [32:57] TO THOSE OF US ON THE CCPO. >> I WOULD ASK THAT THEY PUT [33:04] THAT INFORMATION IN THE MEETING NOTES SO THAT WE CAN GET TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT SO WE CAN GET TO WHAT PEOPLE ARE HERE FOR TODAY. [33:09] EVERYONE HERE IF YOU CAN PUT YOUR NAME AND INFORMATION IN THE PUBLIC NOTES, THAT WOULD BE GREAT SO THAT EVERYONE KNOWS WHO WAS HERE AND THEIR TITLE. [33:15] THANK YOU. >> CAN WE HAVE PEOPLE INTRODUCE THEMSELVES SO -- I'M SEEG HEADS NODDING. PEOPLE DON'T KNOW LATER ON. [33:21] THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHO THE PEOPLE ARE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE ADDRESSING DURING PUBLIC [33:27] COMMENT. IT TAKES A MINUTE, WE JUST WENT THROUGH ALL OF THE PRESENTATIONS, SURELY WE CAN [33:32] HAVE TRANSPARENCY AND HAVE PEOPLE STAND UP,IVE THEIR NAMES, THEY CAN SIT DOWN AND DO [33:38] IT, THEIR NAMES, THEIR TITLES AND THEIR AGENCIES. IS THIS WHAT YOU ALL WANT TO [33:46] SEE? >> WE DON'T ASK ANYBODY TO STAND AND IDENTIFY THEMSELVES IN [33:52] COMING TO THIS MEETING, THE'S NO REASON TO EXPOSE OUR STAFF TO [33:59] POSSIBLE NEGATIVE EMAILS, MESSAGES, AND THAT SORT OF THING. >> WE DO THIS EVERY MEETING, WE [34:05] HAVE THE STAFF INTRODUCE THEMSELVES. IS THE LEVEL OF TRUST OR MISTRU YOU HAVE OF THE PUBLIC [34:11] THAT THEY'LL RETALIATE AGAINST PEOPLE? >> COMMISSIONER GURIAN-SHERMAN -- >> WHAT ARE YOU SAYING? [34:16] >> COMMISSIONER GURI-SHERMAN, I WOULD ASK YOU TO -- ONE [34:22] MOMENT. I WOULD ASK THAT THE STAFF BE ABLE TO IF THEY SPEAK TONIGHT TO [34:27] IDENTIFY THEMSELVES AS WE ASK EVERYONE ELSE TO DO. BUT WE ASK TO PUT IT IN THE MINUTES SO WE CAN MOVE THE [34:32] MEETING FORWARD. IF YOU SPEAK TONIGHT, PLEASE IDENTIFY YOURSELF. YOU'RE SPEAKING TO US IN THE [34:39] PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU'RE NOT SPEAKING TO STAFF. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? [34:45] OKAY. SEEING NO DISCUSSION, I'LL DIRECT THE CLERK TO RECEIVE AND FILE THAT REPORT. [34:51] WE'RE NOW TO THEUBLIC HEARING. OUR NEXT ITEM, WE'RE GOING TO TALK TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION AS PART OF TONIGHT'S HEARING, [34:57] PLEASE NOTE THAT WE'LL BE TAKING SPEAKERS IN THE ORDER THAT THEY ARE REGISTERED. EAKERS CAN REGISTER WITH THE [35:02] CLERKS AT THE TABLE OUTSIDE IN THE HALLWAY. EVERY SPEAKER HAS AN ASSIGNED NUMBER. WE WILL BE CALLING SPEAKERS BY [35:08] NUMBER AND NAME. [35:14] WE HAVE TRANSLATION SERVICES PROVIDED IN SOMALI AND SPANISH. [35:19] EACH REGISTERED SPEAKER WILL BE GIVEN TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK. WE HAVE A TIMER AVAILABLE TO HELP SPEAKERS MONITOR THE USE OF [35:25] THEIR TIME. WE ASK THAT YOU WRAP UP YOUR COMMENTS WHEN TIME IS EXPIRED TO BE RESPECTFUL OF ALL MEMBERS OF [35:31] THE PUBLIC TODAY. WE ALSO ASK THAT EVERYONE BE RESPECTFUL OF ALL SPEAKERS. [35:38] EVERY PERSON HAS ABOUT FOUR MINUTES INSTEAD OF TWO MINUTES TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE ENOUGH [35:43] TIME TOAY THEIR COMMENTS. IF YOU HAVE WRITTEN MATERIALS TO SUBMIT, PLEASE GIVE THOSE TO THE [35:48] CLERK AT THE REGISTRATION TABLE TO BE INCLUDED FOR THE RECORD. WE HAVE ALSO PRINTED COMMENT FORMS AVAILABLE AT THE REGISTRATION TABLE IF YOU'D LIKE [35:54] TO SUBMIT A COMMENT ON THIS PROPOSAL AND HAVE THAT INCLUDED IN THE PUBLIC RECORD. WITH THAT, WE'RE GOING TO OPEN [36:00] THE PUBLIC HEARING. SO FAR WE HAVE TEN SPEAKERS. [36:12] NUMBER ONE, DAVE VICKY, NUMBER [36:21] TWO ANDREW CLOISE -- PLEASE COME UP TO THE PODIUM. [36:32] MR. PICKING? [36:38] >> MY NAME IS DAVE PICKING, WARD 8. AND I WORK WITH COMMUNITIES UNITED AGAINST POLICE BRUTALITY [36:45] OR CUAPB. I'VE COME HERE TO ASK YOU SOME QUESTIONS. [36:50] BUT YOU TELL US YOU WON'T ANSWER THEM WHICH IPRETTY TYPICAL. SO THEY'RE NOT RHETORICAL [36:57] QUESTIONS. WHY DID YOU CHOOSE THESE PAICULAR THREE POLICIES? [37:07] THEY'RE OUT OF DATE. I MEAN IT'S WAY PAST THEHE ORIGINAL DEADLINE FOR COMMENT. [37:12] AND YOU'VE ALREADY DONE YOUR REVIEW OF THESE POLICIES. SO WHERE DO OUR COMMES GO AND [37:19] HOW DO THEY FIT IN AND WHO DO OUR COMMENTS GO TO, I THINK IS [37:26] REALLY IMPORTANTHERE. YOU'VE CHOSEN POLICIES THAT HAVE [37:32] BEEN MOSTLY WORKED ON. INCIDENTALLY CUAPB HAS WORKED THROUGH ALL THESE POLICIES. [37:38] WE MET EVERY DEADLINE FOR SUBMITTING THOSE POLICIES. WE HAVE HERE AND I HOPE YOU ALL [37:45] HAVE THIS, THE POLICIES, THESE [37:52] THREE POLICIES PULLED FROM OUR WELL OVER 100 PAGE POLICY DOCUMENT WITH THAT WE GAVE YOU [37:59] WHEN WE SUBMITTED THOSE POLICIES. TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THOSE POLICIES HAVEN'T EVEN BEEN ACKNOWLEDGED BY THE CCPO, LET ALONE ADDRESSED [38:09] IN ANY WAY. SO NOW WE GET A COMMENT PERIOD. [38:20] SO WHEN DO WE SEE THE UPDATES AND KNOW WHAT STATUSES OF THE [38:26] POLICIES? WE HAVE BEEN WORKING O SINCE SUMMER AND DURING THAT [38:33] TIME, WE HAVE NEVER GOTTEN ANY FEEDBACK AS TO WHAT'S BEEN [38:40] UPDATED, WHAT PUBLIC COMMENTS, [38:45] OURS OR OTHERS, ARE BEING ADDRESSED AND WHERE THE POLICIES [38:53] ARE. SO I THINK -- >> THANK YOU. >> I WANT TO SAY THAT I BELIEVE THE POLICIES, THE TEXT OF THE [39:00] -- >> MR. PICKING, YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED. >> CAME OUT WITH THE AGENDA THIS MORNING FOR PEOPLE TO LOOK AT 34 [39:08] PAGES DURING THEIR WORK DAY. YOU GUYS ARE WAY, WAY BEHIND AND [39:14] LIKE USUAL, YOU ARE TREATING THE PUBLIC WITH ABSOLUTELY NO [39:20] RESPECT. AND AT SOMETIMES OUTRIGHT HOSTILITY. >> THANK YOU. [39:25] ANDREW CLOISE. [39:32] >> HELLO. ANDREW CLOIS. [39:37] THE MINNEAPOLIS POLICE IMPLEMENTATION TEAM HAD COMMUNITY MEETINGS WHERE THEY REVIEWED THE THREE CATEGORIES OF POLICIES BEING REVISED AND WERE [39:45] SOLICITING COMMUNITY FEEDBACK. I SAW SOME OF THE CCPO MEMBERS THERE. THIS WAS IN AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER [39:51] OF 2023. IN JUNE OF 2024 THROUGH JANUARY [39:56] OF 2025, MPD POSTED 90 UPDATED DRAFT POLICIE IN SIX LARGE [40:01] BLOCKS ON THEIR WEBSITE AND ASKED FOR COMMUNITY FEEDBACK. THESE BLOCKS OF POLICIES HAD [40:08] FEEDBACK DEAINES RUNNING BETWEEN NOVEMBER 2024 AND FEBRUARY 2025. THE POLICIES YOU LISTED HERE FOR [40:16] THE COMMUNITY, THE THREE, HAVE THEIR FEEDBACK WINDOWS CLOSED [40:22] DECEMBER 13TH FOR NONDISCRIMINATORY POLICING, PROCEDURAL JUSTICE, PROFEIONAL POLICING, AND JANUARY 7TH FOR [40:30] THE 9-1000 SERIES. THE MPD IMPLEMENTATION TEAM WAS TO CREATE FINAL VERSIONS OF THE [40:36] POLICIES AND WITH ELEFA MAKE SURE THE NEW POLICIES WERE COMPLIANT WITH THE CONSENT DECREE. [40:41] IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THESE POLICIES ARE CURRENTLY HAVING THE FINAL TOUCHES DONE AND TRAINING IS BEING DEVELOPED FOR [40:48] THE ROLL OUT. NOW THE CCPO IS NOT BOUND BY THE SAME CALENR THAT THE MPD HAS UNDER THE CONSENT DECREE. [40:55] HOWEVER, FROM THE OUTSIDE, IT SEEMS LIKE THIS IS A SMALL FRACTION OF THE OVERALL POLICIES [41:03] AND VERY LATE IN THE TIMETABLE. THIS LEADS ME TO A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS; DO YOU PLAN ON [41:09] GETTING FEEDBACK ON THE OTHER POLICIES TO THE COMMUNITY FOR FEEDBACK AND THEN TO THE POLICE? [41:16] ALSO, HAVYOU BEEN WORKING ON THE MOST RECENT, THE ALMOST FINAL VERSIONS OF THE POLICY OR ARE YOU LOOKING AT THE DRAFTS [41:24] THAT HAVE BEEN MADE AVAILABLE FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS. AND THEN WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH [41:29] THE FEEDBACK ON THE POLICIES? YOU DID TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT. BUT HOW DO YOU EXPECT MPD TO [41:36] INCORPORATE INTO THEIR WORK STREAM A POLICY REVISION, [41:45] ADOPTION AND OTHER FINAL IMPLEMENTATION. >> THANK YOU, SIR. >> IF I CAN MAKE ONE QUESTION ON THE DOCUMENTS YOU HAVE OUT THERE. [41:50] I CAN'T MAKE HEADS OR TAILS OF THIS. THIS DOCUMENT, IF STRIKE THROUGH IS REMOVED AND UNDERLINE IS ADD, [41:58] THIS DOCUMENT SEEMS TO CATCH YOU UP TO THE POLICY THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT POSTED TWO YEARS AGO. [42:04] SO PLEASE HELP ME UNDERSTAND, IS THIS -- ARE TSE STRIKE THROUGHS AND UNDERLINES THE WORK [42:10] OF THIS GROUP, OR IS THIS JUST AN ANCIENT POLICY THAT YOU HAVE FOR US HERE TO LOOK AT THAT THE [42:17] MPD HAS MOVED BEYOND ALREADY? >> THANK YOU. >> CAN I GET AN ANSWER, I KNOW YOU DON'T NORMALLY ANSWER, BUT [42:23] CAN I GET AN ANSWER TO THAT ABOUT WHAT THIS DOCUMENT IS? [42:32] >> MICHELLE GROSS. [42:37] >> GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS MICHELLE GROSS. I'M PRESIDENT OF COMMUNITIES UNITED AGAINST POLICE BRUTALITY. [42:42] I LIVE IN NORTH MINNEAPOLIS. I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT A CASE THAT WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW THAT IS ABSOLUTELY EMBLEMATIC OF [42:51] THE FAILURE OF THE CITY TO FOLLOW THE CONSENT DECREE AND THE LACK OF MEANINGFUL INPUT BY [42:57] THE COMMUNITY ON THE POLICIES THAT EXIST. INCLUDING FOR EXAMPLE, THE USE OF FORCE POLICY, IN WHICH THE [43:02] MINNEAPOLIS POLICE HAVE DECLARED THAT THE POINTING OF A GUN IN SOMEONE'S FACE IS A MERELY LEVEL [43:08] ONE VIOLATION, WHICH IS THE LOWEST LEVEL VIOLATION AND REQUIRES THE LOWEST LEVEL OF [43:14] SUPERVISORY INPUT. AND BY THE WAY, IF THERE'S ONLY TEN OF US, WHY THE HELL DO WE ONLY GET TWO MINUTES EACH? [43:20] THAT'S COMPLETELY RIDICULOUS, ESPECIALLY TO TALK ABOUT 15 OR 20 POLICIES, THAT'S COMPLETELY RIDICULOUS. [43:26] BUT I'M REALLY HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE CASE OF EBONY DOBBINS. [43:32] WE HAD A PRESS REASE, SO IF YOU CHECK THE NEWS YOU'LL SEE COVERAGE OF IT. MISS DOBBINS IS A SINGLE MOM [43:39] WITH THREE CHILDREN AND SHE WORKS TWO JOBS. SO THIS IS A VERY TIRED MAMA. [43:46] ON MARCH 25TH WHICH WAS A WEEKDAY, I BELIEVE A WEDNESDAY NIGHT, SHE AND HER CHILDREN WERE [43:51] SLEEPING AT ABOUT 1:45 -- 1:00 [43:57] SOMETHING A.M. THEIR DOG UNBEKNOWNST TO THE MOM HAD GOTTEN OUT OF THE HOUSE AND WAS RUNNING AROUND ON A LEASH. THE NEIGHBORS CALLED ANIMAL [44:03] CONTROL, FINE. ANIMAL CONTROL SHOWED UP. THEY TOOK A LITTLE WHILE, BUT THEY SHOWED UP. THEY CAPTURE THE DOG, BUT WELL [44:10] AFTER ANIMAL CONTROL HAD CAPTURED THE ANIMAL, MINNEAPOLIS [44:16] FAMILY'S DOOR AND PLAYING THIS DINGDONG DITCH. YOU CAN SEE IT ON THE RING CAMERA. WE'VE PUBLISHED THE VIDEO OF [44:22] THEM RUNNING UP, KNOCKING, AND RUNNING AWAY, OVER AND OVER AND [44:28] OVER. THIS MOM IS A TIRED MAMA, SHE DIDN'T HEAR IT, SHE SLEPT. WHEN THEY DIDN'T WAKE UP, NNEAPOLIS POLICE VIOLATED THE [44:34] 4th AMENDMENT BY LOOKING IN THESE PEOPLE'S WINDOW, GOING ON THEIR PROPERTY AND LOOKING IN [44:40] THEIR WINDOW. AFTER THEY LOOKED IN THE WIND, THEY PRETENDED THAT OH, WELL THE LITTLE BOY, HER 7-YEAR-OLD SON [44:46] IS SLEEPING AND MAYBE HE'S NOT BREATHING SO THEY USE THAT AS AN [44:52] EXIGENT EXCUSE TO BREAK IN HIS WINDOW. ONE OF THE COPS ENTERED THROUGH THAT WINDOW, WALKED TO THE FRONT [44:58] DOOR, LET FOU OTHER COPS IN AND THE MOM WOKE UP TO FIVE GUNS [45:04] POINTING IN HER FACE. NOT ONLY TH, THEY DRAGGED [45:09] THESE CHILDREN OUT OF THE BED. NOW THIS IS MINNEAPOLIS POLICE NOW, I WANT YOU TO RECOGNIZE [45:14] THAT. DRAGGED THESE CHILDREN OUT OF BED, BROUGHT EVERYBODY IN THE FAMILY TO THE LIVING ROOM, AND TOSSED THE LIVING ROOM WITHOUT A [45:19] WARRANT. ALL OF THESE ARE LEGAL [45:25] VIOLATIONS. AND THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS CONDUCT THAT HAPPENED LAST MONTH. IT DIDN'T HAPPEN FIVE YEARS AGO. [45:31] IT HAPPENED RECENTLY. WE ARE STILL SEEING THESE PROBLEMS. >> ONE SECOND. [45:37] DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SIGNED UP SPEAKERS BESIDES THESE TEN? >> I CAN CHECK, MADAM CHAIR. [45:43] >> WHAT I'D LIKE TO ASK IS -- IF WE ONLY HAVE TEN SPEAKERS, WE [45:49] WOULD EXTEND THE TIM SO WE CAN HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY FOR AN ADDITIONAL MINUTE BECAUSE IF [45:55] THIS IS ALL WE HAVE, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN HEAR AN ADDITIONAL MINUTE IF THAT'S [46:00] OKAY. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE LIKE 30 IN THE HALLWAY. >> MADAM CHAIR, MICHAEL THE [46:06] CLERK HAS JUST STEPPED OUT BECAUSE THERE'S ANOTHER SIGN IN SHEET COMING IN. I THINK THERE'S PROBABLY AT [46:12] LEAST ONE MORE SHEET OF SIGN IN. >> I WANT TO ASK FOR GRACE TO FINISH MY COMMENTS, PLEASE. >> I WOULD ASK THAT YOU WRAP IT [46:18] UP IN ONE MINUTE, BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE EQUAL TIME. BUT YES, IF YOU COULD JUST DO ONE MINUTE, PLEASE. [46:25] GO AHEAD. >> OKAY, I CAN GO AHEAD? >> ONE MINUTE YES, JUST TO [46:30] FINISH IT UP. >> THE BOTTOM LINE IS THIS, LIKE I SAID, IT HAPPENED RECENTLY. THIS WASN'T FIVE YEARS AGO. [46:36] WE HAVE ASKED FOR CHANGES TO THE USE OF FORCE POLICY. WE HAVE BEEN ON ALL OF THIS. I AM NOT SEEING FROM YOUR [46:42] PROCESS HOW THE COMMUNITY'S COMMENTS ARE GOING TO BE ADDED WELL AFTER THE DEADLINE. I'M NOT SEEING WHERE WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THINGS THAT ARE MORE [46:48] IMPORTANT THAN THESE POLICIES, LIKE THE USE OF FORCE POLICIES. I'M NOT SEEING THIS. [46:54] AND THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE TO ME AND TO THE COMMUNITY. AND IT'S ESPECIALLY UNACCEPTABLE [47:00] GIVEN THAT THIS CONDUCT CONTINUES TO THIS DAY. AND WE ARE NOT SEEING CHANGES. >> THANK YOU. >> SO WE NEED TO KNOW HOW IS [47:07] THIS GOI TO HAPPEN? I RECOGNIZE YOU'RE NOT ANSWERING QUESTIONS TONIGHT. I WISH YOU WOULD, BECAUSE THE [47:12] COMMUNITY SHOULD KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THIS FEEDBACK IS GOING TO HAVE ANY KIND OF MEETING. WE, BECAUSE YOU CANNOT STAND [47:18] HERE IN TWO MINUTES AND MAKE COMMENTS ON 15 OR 16 POLICIES. [47:23] WE PUT OUR STUFF INWRITING, IT'S BACK ON THE TABLE, I'LL MAKE SURE YOU GET COPIES. [47:31] >> THANK YOU. IF YOU CAN ADD THE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ON PAPER AND TURN THEM IN AND THEN THE COMMISSIONERS WILL GET A COPY, THANK YOU. [47:38] >> THANK YOU TO CUAPB FOR YOUR DILIGENCE. THE ISSUE ABOUT HOW WE FIT INTO [47:43] THE POLICY CYCLE HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP BY ME MONTHS AGO AND MANY TIMES AND NOT SOLVED. [47:49] >> WE HAVE A POINT OF ORDER. [47:54] COMMISSIONER SCHANFIELD. >> YES, PLEASE CONTINUE. >> THANK YOU. NOAH SCHUMAKER. [48:06] >> GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS NOAH I LIVE IN WARD 4. [48:12] I'M IN THE ORGANIZATION TCC4J. I HAVE NO FAITH THAT THESE [48:18] POLICIES WILL BE IMPLEMENTED OR ENFORCED. I'M GOING TO EXTEND MY [48:24] SOLIDARITY TO ALL MISSING INDIGENOUS WOMEN AND RELATIVES. ALLISON'S FAMILY HAS BEEN FIGHTING TIRELESSLY FOR THE LAST [48:30] 14 MONTHS TO GET JUSTICE FOR HER. YOU ALL ALRDY KNOW HER STORY. THERE IS STILL TO THIS DAY NO JUSTICE FOR ALLISON, DESPITE HER [48:37] FAMILY AND COMMUNITY KNOWING THE NAME AND THE WHEREABOUTS OF HER ALLEGED KILLER. ALLISON'S DEATH AND THE LACK OF [48:44] RESPONSE OR INVESTIGATION IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF HOW MPD CONTINUES TO FAIL THE PEOPLE OF MINNEAPOLIS. IT'S CLEAR MPD WILL CONNUE TO [48:50] FAIL US BECAUSE THEY'VE NEVER SERVED THE MOST VULNERABLE PEOPLE OF MINNEAPOLIS. WE DEMAND CHIEF O'HARA BE FIRED [48:57] BECAUSE INSTEAD OF TAKING HER FAMILY SERIOUSLY, HE WOULD RATHER BLAME THE VICTIM OR PASS [49:02] THE CASE OFF TO THE BCA. CHIEF O'HARA HAS FAILED ALLISON [49:07] JUST LIKE HE FAILED DAVIS. I KNOW YOU ARE NOT ELECTED BY THE COMMUNITY, BUT IF YOU HAVE [49:13] ANY DESIRE TO BE OF SERVICE TO THE PEOPLE OF MINNEAPOLI THEN YOU WILL HEED THE WORDS OF THE PEOPLE HERE TODAY. JOIN YOUR VOICE WITH OURS AND [49:19] TAKE ACTION SO WE CAN GET JUSTICE FOR ALLISON LUCIER. WE KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE THE POWER [49:25] TO HOLD POLICE ACCOUNTABLE FOR HARMFUL ACTION OR INACTION. BUT YOU DO HAVE THE POWER TO RECOMMEND ACTION BE TAKEN. [49:32] AND MAYBE YOUR WORDS WILL HOLD SOME WEIGHT WITH THE MAYOR OR THE ELECTED OFFICIAL WHO APPOINTED YOU TO THE CCPO. [49:38] IF THE CCPO IS SERIOUS ABOUT POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY AND OVERSIGHT, THEN SUPPORT OUR INITIATIVE, THE TWIN CITIES [49:45] COALITION FOR JUSTICES INITIATIVE FOR AN ALL ELECTED [49:55] CIVILIAN COMMUNITY COMMISSION ON POLICE OVERSIGHT. WE NEED AN ENTIRELY NEW GOVERNING BODY WITH REAL [50:01] POLITICAL POWER OVER MPD, A COMMISSION THAT'S MADE UP OF [50:06] ELECTED COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO CAN ACTUALLY ENFORCE MEANINGFUL POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY. SO WE DEMAND COMMUNITY CONTROL [50:13] NOW, JUSTICE FOR ALLISON AND ALL OF THE STON LIVES. >> THANK YOU. [50:20] LORETA VAN PELT. I HOPE I SAID THAT RIGHT, I'M SORRY. [50:31] >> MY NAME IS LORETA VAN PELT, I LIVE IN SOUTH MINNEAPOLIS IN [50:37] WARD 6. FOR TRANSPARENCY PURPOSES. VIOLE [50:42] THE NATIVE COMMUNITY FOR FAR TOO LONG. AND HAS LEFT MANY FAMILS [50:49] SEARCHING FOR JUSTICE. ONE OF WHICH IS THE GRIEVING FAMILY OF ALLISON LUCIER. THEY HAVE BEEN SEEKING JUSTICE [50:55] FOR THEIR BELOVED NIECE FOR 14 MONTHS AFTER SHE WAS FOUND DEAD ON FEBRUARY 2, 2024. AT THE NOVEMBER MEETING OF THE [51:02] CCPO, THE CIVIL RIGHTS DIRECTOR, MICHELLE PHILLIPS SPOKE ABO [51:07] THE SENSELESS ACTS PERPETRATED AGAINST MR. MATURI AND ANY OTHER [51:13] RESIDENTS OF THE CITY. AFTER THE SHOOTING THAT LEFT DAVIS MATURI HOSPITALIZED, THIS [51:19] RESULTED IN AN AFTER ACTION REVIEW OF HOW THE MINNEAPOLIS POLICE SOMEHOW DIDN'T ACT [51:24] URGENTLY ENOUGH TO PREVENT THAT INDIVIDUAL FROM BEING SHOT TO QUOTE CHIEF O'HARA. [51:30] IN FEBRUARY OF 2024, ALLISON LUCIER, AN OJIBWE WOMAN WAS [51:37] FAILED IN A SIMILARLY TRAGIC WAY. TRAPPED IN AN ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIP, ALLISON LUCIER [51:43] CONTACTED MPD ON SEVEN DIFFERENT OCCASIONS, EACH TIME DETAILING THE EXTENSIVE ABUSE SHE WAS [51:48] FACING. THE MPD NEVER ONCE INTERVENED BY ARRESTING THE ALLEGED [51:55] PERPETRATOR CHUCK FLOSS, DESPITE HIM BEING THE PRIMARY SUBJECT. ON FEBRUARY 22, 2024, ALLISON [52:00] WAS FOUND DEAD IN HER APARTMENT. AND AN AUTOPSY BY THE HENNEPIN [52:09] COUNTY MEDICAL EXAMINER FOUND A [52:14] SUBDERMAL HETOMA ON HER HEAD. THEY WASTED PRECIOUS TIME AND MOST OF THE PRIMARY EVIDENCE AT [52:20] THE SCENE. THIS IS VERY SHAMEFUL AND THIS FAMILY DESERVES JUSTICE. [52:25] I'VE BEEN ORGANIZING WITH TCC4J, WE STAND IN SOL DIGS WITH [52:31] ALLISON'S FAMILY AND A -- SOLIDARITY WITH ALLISON'S FAMILY AND ANY OTHER FAMILY THAT'S BEEN [52:36] RAILROADED BY THE MINNEAPOLIS POLICE DEPARTMENT. >> SPEAKER NUMBER SIX IS DANIELLE COREY. [52:42] NUMBER SEVEN IS ALYSSA WASHINGTON. NUMBER EIGHT IS CHELSEA LAMBERT. [52:47] NUMBER NINE, ASHAYA. AND NUMBER TEN JANA WILLIAMS. [52:55] >> MY NAME IS DANIELLE CORBY. CONTINUING ON WHAT LORETA HAS SAID ABOUT ALLISON LUCIER'S [53:03] CASE. NEARLY A YEAR LATER IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR AFTER WE PACKED THE ROOM TO DEMAND JUSTICE, THE CCPO [53:09] REQUESTED AN INDEPENDENT REVIEW FROM THE CITY AUDITOR FOR ALLISON TO THE CITY COUNCIL [53:14] WHICH PASSED WITH A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO THUNDEROUS APPLAUSE. HOWEVER AT THE LAST MEETING IN MARCH, THE CHAIR OF CCPO AND [53:21] MULTIPLE OTHER COMMISSIONERS REFUSED TO HR ANYTHING MORE ABOUT HER CASE BY FAILING TO EVEN SECOND A MOTION MADE BY [53:29] COMMISSIONER GURIAN-SHERMAN TO ACTION REVIEW.ATE ON THE AFTER THE CCPO THEN DECIDED TO [53:35] CANCELED THEIR APRIL MEETING KNOWING THAT DOING SO WOULD LIMIT THE PUBLIC'S ABILITY TO ENGAGE WITH THE COMMISSION. [53:40] LAST WEEK, ON MAY 5TH, THE SCHEDULED CCPO MEETING WAS SUSPICIOUSLY CANCELED MERE HOURS [53:46] BEFORE IT BEGAN. MAY 5TH, FOR THOSE UNAWARE IS INTERNATIONALLY RECOGNIZED AS [53:52] MISSING AND MURDERED INDIGENOUS RELATIVES DAY BY NUMEROUS OPPRESSED TRIS AND FIRST [53:58] NATIONS. IT IS A DAY TO HONOR, COMMEMORATE, AND MOURN THE LOSS OF ALL OF THE STOLEN LIVES LOST [54:03] IN THE ONGOING CRISIS. THE FAMILY OF ALLISON LUCIER AND [54:10] THE COMMUNITY PLANNED TO PACK THE MEETING AND DEMAND JUSTICE FOR ALLISON, ONLY TO BE TOLD THE MEING WAS CANCELED OVER A LACK [54:15] OF QUORUM. THERE WAS NO ROLL CALL, THE DOORS WERE LOCKED TO THE MEETING ROOM AND POLICE WERE CALLED ON [54:21] COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO CAME TO ATTE THE MEETING. THIS IS SHAMEFUL. I'M ALSO A MEMBER OF TWIN CITIES [54:28] COALITION FOR JUSTICE AND ALSO CALL FOR TRUE COMMUNITY CONTROL OF THE POLICE AND JUSTICE FOR ALLISON LUCIER AND ALL STOLEN [54:34] LIVES. >> ALYSSA WASHINGTON. [54:48] >> I'M ALYSSA WASHINGTON. I'M THE FOUNDER OF THE WRONGFULLY INCARCERATED AND [54:55] OVERSENTENCED FAMILIES COUNCIL MINNESOTA. I'M A CMUNITY MEMBER AND I STAND IN SOLIDARITY WITH ALLISON [55:01] LUCIER'S FAMILY AND ALL OF MY PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN MURDERED BY THE MINNEAPOLIS POLICE DEPARTMENT. IT'S BEEN SEVERAL OF THEM. [55:08] THE PUBLIC HAS THE RIGHT TO KNOW, THE CCPO MUST PROVIDE A FORUM FOR THE PUBLIC TO HAVE [55:14] MEANINUL ENGAGEMENT AND POLICE OVERSIGHT. THAT INCLUDES WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE AUDITOR'S REVIEWS AND [55:20] THE LUCIER'S ALLEGED MURDERER. [55:25] CHUCK FLOSS HAS STILL NOT BEEN CHARGED, DESPITE HAVING A PLETHORA OF EVIDENCE TO SUGGEST [55:30] HE COMMITTED MURDER. WE ARE NOW IN THE 15th MONTH OF THE FIGHT. AND THE FAMILY AND ITS SUPPORTERS ARE STILL SEEKING [55:37] ANSWERS FOR HOW THE MPD HORRIBLY FAILED ALLISON LUCIER. IT IS BECAUSE OF THIS TOTAL AND [55:43] UTTER FAILURE OF THE MPD TO DO ITS JOB THAT WE CALL FOR THE [55:49] FIRING OF CHIEF OF POLICE BRIAN O'HARA AND THE SERGEANT HIRES. [56:00] O'HARA ADMITTED FAILING DAVIS WHO SURVIVED A SADISTIC ATTACK ON HIS LI. [56:06] BUT DENIES ANY MPD WRONGDOING ON BEHALF OF LUCIER WHO WAS FOUND [56:11] MURDERED IN HER OWN HOME. THEY FAILED TO INVESTIGATE PREVIOUS MURDERS, INCLUDING NOT JUST ALLISON, BUT ALSO HER [56:19] COUSIN, ARIANNA. LEAVING THEIR FAMILY GRIEVI NOT ONCE BUT TWICE. [56:24] FURTHERMORE, WHEN PUBLIC PRESSURE GREW AFTER WE PACKED THE FEBRUARY MEETING OF THE COMMISSION, CHIEF O'HARA AND THE [56:31] PUBLIC PRESS CONFERENCE FALSELY PAINTED ALLISON'S DEATH AS AN OVERDOSE. [56:37] SHAME. IN DIRECT OPPOSITIONO THE FINDINGS FROM THE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S AUTOPSY OF HER BODY. [56:44] FOR THESE REASONS, WE BELIEVE THAT THEY BOTH MUST GO. THE CCPO HAS THE RESPONSIBILITY [56:51] TO AS ORDINANCE STATES CONTRIBUTE TO THE ANNUAL PERFORMANCE REVIEW OF THE POLICE CHIEF. WE CALL ON THE COMMISSION TO [56:57] CONTRIBUTE TO THE REVIEW BY RECOMMENDING THAT CHIEF O'HARA'S CONTRACT NOT BE RENEWED AND THAT [57:05] SERGEANT HIRE BE FIRED FROM THE DEPARTMENT. THE AFTER ACTION REVIEWS OF BOTH DAVIS AND ALLISON ARE SIMPLE [57:12] EVIDENCE TO RECOMMEND SUCH ACTIONS. AND LET'S REMIND Y'ALL, YOU GUYS [57:17] DO WORK FOR THE COMMUNITY. WE'RE ASKING AND WE'RE BEGGING AND PLEADING YOU GUYS TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT. [57:23] YOU KNOW HOW MANY OF MY FRIENDS HAVE BEEN KILLED BY THE MINNEAPOLIS POLICE DEPARTMENT? I'M ONLY 34 YEARS OLD. [57:29] A LOT OF THEM HAVE. YOU GUYS NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. THESE POLICIES, WHAT ARE WE [57:34] GOING TO DO? THROW THEM AT THE POLICE WHEN THEY KILL US? YOU GUYS NEED TO DO SOMETHING. WE'RE TIRED OF STANDING UP HERE. [57:41] MY GODDAUGHTER JUST GOT KILLED LAST SUNDAY. I'M SITTING RIGHT HERE INSTEAD OF BEING WITH MY FAMILY. [57:47] YOU GUYS NEED TO DO SOMETHING A. >> THANK YOU, MS. WASHINGTON. [57:53] CHELSEA LAMBERT. >> MY NAME IS CHELSEA LAMBERT. [57:59] WE CAME TOGETHER HERE NOT ONLY TO DEMAND JUSTICE FOR ONE WOMAN ALONE, BUT AS PART OF THE FIGHT [58:04] AGAINST THE ONGOING MISSING AND MURDERED INDIGENOUS WOMEN AND RELATIVES CRISIS. [58:09] THIS IS NOTHING MORE THAN THE LEGACY OF GENOCIDE CONTINUED. BLACK, BROWN, AND INDIGENOUS PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KIDNAPPED, [58:16] TORTURED, RAPED, LYNCHED, AND MURDERED FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS. [58:22] INDIGENOUS RELATIVES MAKE UP ONLY 1% OF MINNESOTA'S POPULATION, BUT ARE 10% OF [58:28] MISSING AND MURDER CASES. NEARLY THE HIGHEST RATE OF ANY OTHER POPULATION. IN 2024 ALONE, THERE WERE 716 [58:36] MISSING INDIGENOUS PERSONS CASES IN THE STATE OF MINNESOTA. NEARLY TWO WEEKS AGO, THE [58:41] MINNEAPOLIS NATIVE COMMUNITY WAS STRUCK BY TRAGEDY WHEN A MASS SHOOTING LEFT FOUR PEOPLE DEAD AND THE COMMUNITYHEARTBROKEN [58:48] AND DEVASTATED. THESE ARE NOT ISOLATED INCIDENTS. THE COMMON DENOMINATOR BETWEEN [58:54] THE GRISLY AND DEADLY ATTACKS IS THE FAILURE OF THE MPD AND THE [59:01] HCAO TO CHARGE AND CONVICT PEOPLE TO COMMIT VIOLENCE AGAINST BLACK,BROWN, AND INDIGENOUS PEOPLE. [59:07] WHEN THE POLICE AND OTHER PUBLIC OFFICIALS PURPOSELY FAIL THEM, WE SEE IT AS NHING MORE THAN [59:16] COMPLICITY IN THE ONGOING LEGACY [59:22] OF VIOLENCE AGAINST INDIGENOUS PEOPLE. WE RECOMMEND THE CCPO DO ITS PART IN COMBATING THE MISSING [59:30] INDIGENOUS AND RELATIVES CRISIS. INFORM THE PUBLIC ON THE AFTER ACTION REVIEW, HOLD THE POLICE [59:36] ACCOUNTABLE, AND DEMAND JUSTICE FOR ALLISON. JUSTICE IS OUR DEMAND. NO PEACE ON STOLEN LAND. [59:42] JUSTICE IS OUR DEMAND. NO MORE STOLEN SISTERS ON STOLEN [59:48] LAND. THANK YOU. >> IS IT ASHAYA? [59:57] >> I'M FROM WARD 4. AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SPEAK [1:00:03] TO YOUR HUMANITY AND THE REASONS THAT BROUGHT YOU TO TAKE ON [1:00:12] THESE POSITIONS. AND TO DO WHAT YOU CAN TO USE YOUR POWER TO THE FULLEST [1:00:25] EXTENT. I'M IMPLORING YOU TO USE THAT TO HOLD CHIEF O'HARA TO HIS FULLEST [1:00:32] NEGLIGENCE AND FAILING TO INVESTIGATE CHUCK FLOSS WHEN THERE WAS AN EXTENSIVE HISTORY OF ABUSE THAT THEY FAILED. [1:00:40] THEY HAD TWO OPPORTUNITIES TO ARREST HIM. ONE TIME THEY EVEN HAD HIM DETAINED. [1:00:46] HER LIFE COULD HAVE BEEN SAVED. [1:00:51] AND LORD KNOWS WHAT HAVOC HE'S BROUGHT TO ANOTHER WOMEN SINCE. [1:00:57] BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THAT THIS KIND OF ABUSE DOES NOT CHANGE [1:01:04] WITHOUT INTERVENTION. AND HE'S A DANGER TO OUR SOCIETY. AND NOW THE ACTIONS OF [1:01:14] MINNEAPOLIS POLICE CONTINUE TO BE A THREAT TO OUR PEACE AND A THREAT TO OUR COMMUNITY'S [1:01:19] ABILITY TO TRUST ANY PERSON IN POWER AND ANY FORM OF THE [1:01:26] SYSTEM. THAT WAS RETRAUMATIZING TO ALL OF US WHEN YOU GUYS CLOSED THE [1:01:32] DOOR ON US ON MAY 5TH. THAT WAS REALLY HURTFUL. [1:01:38] TO ALL OF US THAT SHOW UP. [1:01:48] IT ADDS INSULT TO INJURY. AND WE ALL DESERVE HEALING, WE DESERVE TO SEE SOME [1:01:55] IT'S BEEN FIVE YEARS. WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE? ANOTHER POLICE STATION TO BE SET ON FIRE? [1:02:02] >> THANK YOU. AND MY APOLOGIES FOR SAYING YOUR NAME WRONG. [1:02:12] >> HI, I'M JANA WILLIAMS. I'M ALLISON'S AUNT. MOST OF YOU HAVE KNOWN ME AND [1:02:18] HEARD OF ALLISON'S CASE. I'M FROM MAPLE GROVE, MINNESOTA. I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO STAND HERE A [1:02:24] YEAR LATER FIGHTING FOR THIS JUSTICE FOR MY NIECE. YOU KNOW, THE FACT IS TT YOU [1:02:30] GUYS HAVE THE ABILITY TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE. WHEN CHIEF O'HARA WAS ON THE [1:02:37] NEWS INFERRING THA MY NIECE DIED OF A DRUG OVERDOSE AND YOU ALL SAW THAT. YOU ALL SAW THAT. [1:02:43] AND YOU KNOW WHAT, YOUR OWN MEDICAL EXAMINER IS DISCOUNTIN HIM AND SAYING ABSOLUTELY DID [1:02:49] SHE NOT DIE OF A DRUG OVERDOSE, SHE DIED OF A SUBDERMAL [1:02:57] HEMATOMA. NOW WE HAVE HENNEPIN COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. THEY BOTH BELIEVE CHUCK FOSS [1:03:03] KILLED ALLISON LUCIER. I AM NOT A PAWN IN THEIR GAME. I SHOULD NOT BE. ALLISON'S DEATH SHOULD NOT BE A [1:03:10] PAWN BETWEEN MINNEAPOLIS PD AND THE COUNTY ATTOEY. THIS IS SICK. AND ON TOP OF ALL OF THIS, CHIEF [1:03:16] O'HARA REFUSED TO ACTUALLY DO AN INVESTIGATION INTO THIS DEATH, INTO THIS MURDER. [1:03:21] BUT YET, AS SOON AS THAT STORY CAME OUT WITH THE -- AS SOON AS THAT STORY CAME OUT, WHAT [1:03:28] HAPPENED WITH HIM? YOU KNOW WT HE DID, HE OPENED UP AN INTERNAL INVESTIGATION [1:03:34] INTO HIS DEPARTMENT LEAK. THIS IS DISGUSTING. WHAT THE HELL IS HAPPENING HERE [1:03:39] IN MINNEAPOLIS? THIS IS WHAT YOU ARE HERE TO HOLD HIM ACCOUNTABLE FOR. YES, HE SHOULD BE FIRED. HE WENT ON TV WHEN YOUR OWN [1:03:46] MEDICAL EXAMINER IS SAYG SHE DID NOT DIE OF A SUBDERMAL [1:03:51] HEMATOMA. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK BOTH OF YOU, COMMISSIONER REEVE [1:03:57] RIGHT? OVER THERE. FOR WEARING RED. BECAUSE WEARING RED MEANS THAT YOU'RE HONORING MISSING AND [1:04:03] MURDERED INDIGENOUS WOMEN. YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT I REALLY WANT TO TALK ABOUT HERE IS THIS [1:04:09] POLICE POLICY 5-104. I KNOW YO GUYS ALL KNOW ABOUT ALLISON'S CASE, BUT THE PROBLEM [1:04:15] WITH THIS POLICE POLICY 5-104, YOU'RE NOT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE IMPLICIT BIAS THAT WHEN [1:04:23] MINNEAPOLIS PD SHOWS UP TO CASES SUCH AS ALLISON LUCIER, SUCH AS DAVIS MATURI, THEY SIMPLY LOOK [1:04:30] THE OTHER WAY AND DON'T DO THEIR JOB. THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED IN THIS CASE. SO I'M GOING TO CALL ON ALL OF [1:04:36] YOU GUYS, YOU KNOW WHAT, THIS PENDULUM, YOU KNOW WHAT, YES, MINNEAPOLIS PD, WE ALL KNOW THAT [1:04:45] WHY WE ARE ALL SITTING HERE BECAUS BLACK, BROWN, INDIGENOUS PEOPLE WERE TARGETED, RACIAL [1:04:52] PROFILING, THIS HAS HAPPENED SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME. NOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND WHAT EVERYBODY IS DOING SAYING OKAY [1:04:57] WE'RE GOING TO DO IT THIS WAY. SO NOW, PREDATORS ARE LEFT ON [1:05:04] OUR STREETS TO KILL EN MASSE. THIS IS WHAT JUST HAPPENED IN SOUTH MINNEAPOLIS TWO WEEKS AGO. [1:05:12] THAT PREDATOR SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN ON THE STREETS IN THE FIRST [1:05:18] PLACE. HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN NOT LOCKED UP BEHIND BARS, HE SHOULD HA BEEN UNDERNEATH THE JAIL. HE MURDERED FOUR OF MY PEOPLE [1:05:24] TWO WEEKS AGO. HOW MANY OF US ARE STANDING HERE? THIS IS AN ISSUE. I'M NOT A POLITICAL PAWN. [1:05:31] ALLISON'S CASE SHOULD NOT BE THIS PING-PONG BALL BETWEEN MINNEAPOLIS PD, CHIEF O'HARA, [1:05:37] AND MARY MORIARTI. [1:05:42] SOMEONE NEEDS TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >>O A FEW MORE SPEAKERS ON THE [1:05:49] LIST. IS IT JAY YATES? NUMBER 11. I'M SORRY, IS IT DARLENE SCOTT? [1:05:55] OKAY. JAY? >> YEAH, MY NAME IS JAY YATES. [1:06:01] I'M WITH THE TWIN CITIES COALITION FOR JUSTICE. AND FROM THE MOMENT THAT THE [1:06:07] CCPO WAS ANNOUNCED IN 2023, I KNEW IT WOULD BE USED TO PASSIFY [1:06:15] THE PEOPLE OF -- PACIFY THE PEOPLE OF MINNEAPOLIS WHO HAVE MADE IT CLEAR WE WANT REAL [1:06:21] CHANGES. BUT INSTEAD OF STAFFING CHANGES TO REMOVE THOSE WITH HISTORY OF [1:06:27] ABUSE, INSTEAD OF AN END TO QUALIFIED IMMUNITY, INSTEAD OF REDUCING MPD'S BLOATED BUDGET, [1:06:37] EQUIPMENT TO BE UNLEASHED ON CIVILIANS, WE HAVE GOTTEN MEETINGS CANCELED LAST MINUTE, [1:06:42] ABSOLUTELY NO SUBSTANTIVE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE MPD INCLUDING WHAT WAS JUST PRESENTED AND NO ACCOUNTABILITY [1:06:47] FOR PAST AND PRESENT HARMS VISITED ON US BY MPD. AFTER EVERYTHING THE PEOPLE IN [1:06:53] THIS CITY PARTICULARLYLACK AND NATIVE PEOPLE HAVE GONE THROUGH AT THE HANDS OF MPD INCLUDING [1:06:59] THE DISGUSTING MISHANDLING OF THE DAVIS MATURI AND ALLISON [1:07:05] LUCIER CASES, WE DESERVE MORE THAN A TOOTHLESS REVIEW BOARD THAT HAS DONE NOTHING MORE THAN [1:07:11] PROVID A WALL OF SILENCE FOR COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO BEG TO FOR TWO MINUTES AT A TIME. [1:07:16] YOU SAY THIS COMMUNITY HAS BECOME MORE FUNCTIONAL, BUT WHILE YOU CONGRATULATE YOURSELVES O REPORTS AND RESEARCH, WE ARE STILL HARMED BY [1:07:23] THE MINNEAPOLIS POLICE DEPARTMENT EVERY DAY. WHEN BLACK AND NATIVE PEOPLE ARE TARGETED BY MPD A A RATE OF 9 [1:07:30] AND 12 TIMES THE RATE OF WHITE PEOPLE RESPECTIVELY ACCORDING TO THE NDHR REPORT, HOW DOES A [1:07:36] POLICY PROTECT US IF THERE IS NO ONE TO ENFORCE IT? [1:07:42] WE NEED ACTUAL CIVILIAN REVIEW THAT THE POLICE ARE NOT FREE TO SIMPLY IGNORE AS THEY HAVE FOR [1:07:48] DECADES. WE DESERVE COMMUNITY CONTROL NOW, AND WE NEEDED IT YESTERDAY BECAUSE THIS BODY IS NOT GOOD [1:07:53] ENOUGH. I'M SURE TT MANY OF YOU HERE WANT TO DO A GOOD JOB AND THAT MANY OF YOU HERE ACTUALLY ARE [1:08:00] INVESTED IN REAL CHANGE TO THE POLICING IN THIS CITY. [1:08:05] BUT YOU HAVE NO POWER TO DO ANY OF IT. AND WE NEED A BODY THAT CAN. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. [1:08:13] DARLENE SCOTT. [1:08:19] >> I ACTUALLY SIGNE UP TO ASK QUESTIONS, BUT I'M YIELDING MY TIME TO DAVE. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS THIS IS MY FIRST [1:08:26] TIME PARTICIPATING IN THIS. AND IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THIS COMMISSION HAS BECOME A PART OF [1:08:33] THE SYSTEM'S ISSUE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. YOU LOOK AT THESE PEOPLE WITH INDIFFERENCE. LIKE THEY'RE COMING UP WITH SO [1:08:38] MUCH EMOTION ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE GOING THROUGH. AND WE'RE FACING A WALL OF LIKE [1:08:44] THESE ARE NOT HUMAN BEINGS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT. AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SEEING FROM WHERE I'M SITTING. [1:08:58] >> SHE WAS KIND ENOUGH TO YIELD SOME TIME. I APPRECIATE THAT. [1:09:08] I THINK THE AGENDA WAS SET UP TO TAKE QUESTIONS ABOUT POLICY OR [1:09:13] COMMENTS. THERE'S TWO BIG REASONS WHY WE NEED GOOD POLICIES. ONE IS THAT FOR OFFICERS THAT [1:09:19] WANT TO DO THE JOB RIGHT, THE EXPECTATION SHOULD BE CLEAR AND [1:09:25] THEY CAN FOLLOW THOSE. BUT TOO OFTEN, WE SEE OFFICERS [1:09:31] WHO DO NOT WANT TO DO THE RIGHT THING, AND HOLDING THEM TO THE STANDARD OF THE POLICIES LEADS [1:09:38] TO DISCIPLINE, EXCEPT IN [1:09:45] MINNEAPOLIS. WE WE ABLE TO SHOW EVEN BEFORE GEORGE FLOYD WAS KILLED THAT THE [1:09:53] COMPLAINTS THAT CAME TO THE OPCR AT THAT TIME, LESS THAN ONE-HALF [1:10:00] OF 1% LED TODISCIPLINE. SO IF YOU'VE FILED A COMPLAINT, [1:10:05] YOU HAD LESS THAN ONE CHANCE IN [1:10:11] 20 OF IT HAVING ANY EFFECT AT ALL. AND OF COURSE MOST OF THOSE WERE WRITTEN REPRIMANDS. [1:10:17] SINCE THEN, IT'S BECOME IMPOSSIBLE TO GET THE DATA. WE HAVE REQUESTED IT OVER AND [1:10:27] OVER AND OVER AGAIN. SO WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE INFERENCES FROM THE LITTLE BIT OF DATA THAT WE HAVE. [1:10:33] AND IT CERTAINLY LOOKS LIKE IT HAS NOT IMPROVED AT ALL. [1:10:43] IT'S YOU BUT IT'S A LOT OF WHAT'S BEEN HOLDING YOU BACK. [1:10:50] THIS IS TWO YEARS NOW. ANDHERE WAS ONE REPORT THAT SAID DISCIPLINE IS VERY RARELY [1:10:58] IMPOSED. AND THAT CERTAINLY IS THE CASE. [1:11:04] SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO COMMENT ON THE WORK OF THE CCPO AND THE OPCR TO SAY THAT [1:11:12] POLICIES, WHILE THEY NEED TO BE GOOD, ARE JUST THE START OF IT. [1:11:18] AND IF YOU DON'T RECOGNIZE THAT, IF YOU DON'T TAKE THE ACTIONS TO [1:11:24] GET SOME ACTUAL DISCIPLINE, THE POLICIES ARE WORTHLESS. >> AND WHEN I SPOKE WE WERE [1:11:32] LIMITED TO TWO MINUTES. >> THE TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE NEXT SPEAKER UP IS SAMANTHA [1:11:38] HOLQUIST. [1:11:50] >> THE PEOPLE ONLINE CAN'T HEAR YOU. THE PEOPLE ONLINE CAN'T HEAR YOU. [1:12:06] MICHELLE, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU ADD THAT IN COMMENTS BECAUSE THE PEOPLE ONLINE COULDN'T HEAR YOU SINCE YOU WEREN'T AT THE [1:12:13] MICROPHONE. SAMANTHA AND THE LAST SPEAKER IS CHUCK TURKIC. [1:12:21] >> HI, MY NAME IS SAMANTHA. I LIVE IN WARD 8. I STRUGGLE WITH DYSLEXIA, SO I'M [1:12:27] GOING TO READ BUT IT'S GOING TO BE HARD. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR WORK AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO [1:12:32] PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THESE THREE DRAFT POLICIES BEFORE US TODAY. THESE POLICIES REFLECT IMPORTANT [1:12:37] COMMITMENTS TO FAIR AND CONSTITUTIONAL POLICING, HOWEVER ALL THREE OF THEM LACKED IMPLEMENTATION GUIDANCE [1:12:43] NECESSARY TO ENSURE THAT THESE COMMITNTS ARE CONSISTENTLY APPLIED, EFFECTIVELY MONITORED, AND PUBLICLY ACCOUNTABLE. [1:12:51] FOR POLICY 5-104 WHICH FOCUSES ON NONDISCRIMINATORY POLICING, I [1:12:57] RECOMMEND ADDING POLICIES AND CLEAR GUIDANCE AROUND TRAINING ON IMPLICIT BIAS, EXPLICIT BIAS, AND ANTIDISCRIMINATION. [1:13:06] REQUIRED DOCUMENTATION OF JUSTIFICATIONS AND ROUTINE AUDITS WITH PUBLIC REPORTING, DISAGGREGATED BY RACE AND [1:13:12] GENDER. COMMUNITY OVERSIGHT SHOULD BE BUILT INTO THE POLICY AND THE REVIEW PROCESS. [1:13:20] POLICY 519 OUTLINES RESPECT AND TRANSPARENCY, BUT THEY NEED [1:13:26] OPERATIONAL SUPPORT. THAT INCLUDES INTEGRATING PROCEDURAL JUSTICE INTO OFFICER [1:13:32] EVALUATIONS, ESTABLISHING TRAINING ON DE-ESCALATION ON TRAINING AND TRAUMA-INFORMED -- [1:13:41] FURTHER COMMUNITY VOICES SHOULD BE A PART OF ADDRESSING IMPLEMENTATION AND ACCOUNTABILITY STRUCTURES IN [1:13:46] THIS POLICY AS WELL. FINALLY POLICY 9-100 ENCOURAGES [1:13:52] CITATIONS OVER ARREST. TH IS A GOOD STEP FORWARD, BUT POLICY IS NEEDED ON HOW TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS. [1:13:57] THIS SHOULD INCLUDE DECISION MAKING TOOLS, REQUIRE DOCUMENTATIONS WHEN ARRESTS ARE MADE IN CITATION ELIGIBLE CASES. [1:14:08] AND ONGOING REVIEW WITH RESULTS SHARED PUBLICLY. EMBEDDING THESE IMPLEMENTATION ELEMENTS INTO THE POLICIES [1:14:15] THEMSELVES, NOT LEFT ON THE INTERNAL MEMOS WILL HP ENTER ACCOUNTABILITY, TRANSPARENCY, [1:14:22] AND PUBLIC TRUST. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND FOR LISTENING TO THESE RECOMMENDATIONS. >> THANK YOU. CHUCK. [1:14:47] >> CHAIR REEVES MENTIONED A BUNCH OF KILLINGS AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS MEETI. [1:14:53] HOW MANY OF THOSE KILLINGS WERE A RESULT OF MINNEAPOLIS HAVING [1:14:59] BAD POLICE POLICIES? I'D SAY NONE OF THEM. THERE WERE SOME PERIPHERAL [1:15:05] POLICIES LIKE LACK OF SUPERVISION OR A TRAINING OFFICER, THE REQUIREMENTS TO BE [1:15:12] A TRAINING POLICY, THAT POSSIBLY RULES OUT THE GEORGE FLOYD [1:15:17] KILLING. BUI DON'T THINK IT WAS BECAUSE WE HAD BAD POLICIES. I THINK THIS EMPHASIS IS ON POLICIES IS BECAUSE ELEFA IS [1:15:25] FOCUSING ON POLICIES AT THE BEGINNING OF THEIR ANALYSIS. I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD FOCUS [1:15:30] ON POLICIES. YOU COULD FOCUS ON PRACTICES. THE ORDINANCE THAT LED TO THIS MEETING SAID YOU COULD CALL A [1:15:37] MEETING TO FOCUS ON POLICE PROGRAMS, SPECIAL ORDERS, POLICIES, OR PRACTICES. [1:15:42] AND I THINK WE SHOULD FOCUS ON PRACTICES. IT'S NOT THAT IMPORTANT WHETHER A POLICY REFERS TO AN OFFICER AS [1:15:49] AN OFFICER, AN EMPLOYEE, A TEAM MEMBER OR A MEMBER. [1:15:56] THOSE ARE SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT THE MINNEAPOLIS POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS MAKING IN THESE POLICY CHANGES. AND ELEFA OF COURSE IS MADE UP [1:16:03] OF LAWYERS. AND THAT'S HOW LAWYERS THINK, THAT POLICIES ARE WHAT MAKES THE [1:16:09] DIFFERENCE. IT'S THE ENFOEMENT OF THE POLICIES THAT MAKES THE DIFFERENCE. [1:16:16] I WOULD SUGGEST THAT FOR ALL OF THE KILLINGS THAT CHAIR REEVES MENTIONED, THERE OUGHT TO BE A [1:16:24] FULL FLEDGE SYSTEMATIC AFTER [1:16:32] ACTION PUBLIC REVIEW. A FEW PEOPLE UP HERE HAVE MENTIONED AFTER ACTION REVIEWS. [1:16:38] NONE OF THOSE KILLINGS HAD AFTER ACTION REVIEWS. EVIDENCE RULES LIMIT WHA CAN BE [1:16:45] SAID IN A TRIAL. THEY'VE NEVER DONE AN AFTER ACTION REVIEW OF THE KILLING OF GEORGE FLOYD. THAT'S CRIMINAL. [1:16:50] THEN YOU LOOK AT THE AFTER ACTION REVIEW, AND YOU'D SEE WHETHER SOME POLICIES THAT NEED [1:16:56] TO BE CHANGED COME OUT OF THAT ACTION REVIEW. AND THIS HAS BEEN MY COMPLAINT [1:17:02] FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS. YOU HAVE BEEN SUPPOSED TO BE [1:17:07] GETTING ANONMIYMISED REPORTS ON [1:17:16] EVERY SINGLE CPLAINT FILED. IT TOOK TWO YEARS, WITH PEOPLE [1:17:24] IN THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, MANY OF THEM SITTING OVER THERE, IT TOOKHEM TWO YEARS TO GIVE [1:17:29] YOU THREE ANONYMIZED REPORTS OF [1:17:38] COMPLAINTS. JUST THIS MONTH YOU GOT THE FIRST THREE. YOU'RE DUE OVER 1,000 OF THEM. IF YOU LOOK AT THE PRACTICES OF [1:17:43] E POLICE OFFICERS, THEN YOU CAN TELL WHAT POLICIES NEED TO BE CHANGED. YOU'RE DOING IT ASS BACKWARDS. [1:17:50] >> THANK YOU. >> I'M SORRY I WENT OVERY TIME. >> DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER SPEAKERS SIGNED UP? [1:17:55] >> MADAM CHAIR, WE DO NOT HAVE ANYMORE SPEAKERS SIGNED UP AT [1:18:01] THIS TIME. >> THAT CONCLUDES THE LIST OF REGISTERED SPEAKERS. [1:18:06] THAT CONCLUDES THIS PUBLIC HEARING. >> I WOULD SUGGEST WE ADD AT AST ANOTHER HALF HOUR. WE WERE SUPPOSED TO GO THROUGH [1:18:12] 8:30. WE WENT THROUGH 30 MINUTES OF PRESENTATION. I'M SURE THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE T GET UP AND ASK [1:18:19] QUESTIONS. THERE'S NOTHING THAT SAYS WE CANNOT HAVE DIALOGUE. IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO RETREAT FROM WHAT THE PUBLIC [1:18:26] WANTS TO TALK ABOUT, INFORM US, AND GET FROM US. I'M MAKING A MOTION THAT WE CONTINUE THE MEETING UNTIL 8:30 [1:18:31] AND THAT THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT ARE HERE CAN STEP UP AND ASK QUESTIONS AND WE CAN [1:18:37] RESPOND, IF THEY SO DESIRE. >> THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. BUT WE CAN FURTHER DIALOGUE ONCE [1:18:43] WE'RE CLOSED. I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE WHO PARTICIPATED IN THIS PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT. [1:18:48] WITH THAT, WE'VE COMPLETED ALL ITEMS ON THE COMMISSION AND STAND ADJOURNED. AND WE INVITE ANYONE -- [1:18:53] >> COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE. >> I KNOW I'VE ALREADY HAD MY [1:19:00] TIME. BUT I DO WANT YOU GUYS TO UNDERSTAND SOMETHING -- >> USE THE MICROPHONE. >> SO LISTEN TO THIS. [1:19:06] WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUTEORGE FLOYD -- [1:19:12] >> WE'RE TRYING TO CHANGE THE NARRATIVE OF THIS COUNTRY FROM [1:19:17] WARFARE TO HEALTH FARE. AS I CALL OUT THE NAME GEORGE [1:19:24] FLOYD. >> GEORGE FLOYD. >> AND WE HAVE UNFORTUNATELY A NAME, ALLISON LUCIER. [1:19:33] AGAIN ALLISON LUCIER. [1:19:55] >> THIS IS THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. THEY ARE SPEAKING ALLISON'S NAME WITH GEORGE FLOYD AND BRIANNA [1:20:03] TAYLOR. BECAUSE THEY KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE AND WHAT HAS HAPPENED. AND I AM GOING TO BEG OF EVERY [1:20:09] SINGLE ONE OF YOU TO LISTEN TO WHAT THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS IS SAYING TO YOU TONIGHT. [1:20:16] WE ARE SAYING TO YOU WE NEED TRANSPARENCY. WE NEED CHANGE. AND YOU NEED TO START ACTUALLY [1:20:21] LISTENING TO THE CONSTITUENTS. >> THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR COMING. HAVE A GOOD EVENING. [1:20:27] >> CHAIR, POINT OF ORDER. IS IT POSSIBLE -- >> WHY WOULD YOU CLOSE IT IF [1:20:32] WE'RE HERE? >> THERE ARE NO OTHER COMMENTS, PEOPLE SIGNED UP FOR COMMENTS. [1:20:37] >> BUT IF WE STILL HAVE TIME, WHY WOULD YOU CLOSE IT? >> POINT OF ORDER, COULD PEOPLE SIGN UP AGAIN? [1:20:44] >> IF SOMEONE WANTED TO SIGN UP AGAIN. YOU ARE WELCOME TO GET ON THE LIST. THE LIST IS OUT IN THE HALLWAY. [1:20:51] WHEN WE ASKED IF THERE WAS ANY OTHER SPEAKERS. HOLD ON WHEN WE ASKED FOR ANY FURTHER SPEAKERS, NO ONE SIGNED [1:20:58] UP. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WANTS SIGN UP? YOU'RE WELCOME TO SIGN UP TO SPEAK. >> WHERE IS THE LIST AT? [1:21:06] >> MADAM CHAIR, IF PEOPLE WISH TO SIGN, THE CLERK AT THE TABLE OUTSIDE IS GONE. [1:21:11] WE HAVE SIGN UP FORMS UP HERE. >> YOU CAN COME UP HERE. IF SOMEONE WANTS TO SIGN UP AND [1:21:17] SPEAKERS. ONLY HAVE THESE DID ANYONE ELSE? DID ANYONE ELSE? [1:21:28] IN THE PUBLIC HEARING, WE ONLY RECEIVE THE INFORMATION. >> LINE UP BEHIND THE MICROPHONE, SHOW YOURSELF IF YOU [1:21:37] WANT TO SPEAK MORE. [1:21:56] >> I WILL ASK IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SIGN UP, WE HAVEN'T OFFICIALLY ADJRNED BECAUSE THE [1:22:01] WORD ADJOURN WAS NOT SAID YET. IF YOU'D LIKE TO STILL SPEAK, YOU NEED TO SIGN UP, THEN YOU [1:22:06] CAN LINE UP. BUT WE NEED A MOTION, BECAUSE WE GOT TO THE END OF PUBLIC COMMENT, IF WE'RE GOING TO ASK [1:22:12] FOR A MOTION TO EXTEND CONVERSATION. >> I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS IF THERE HAS [1:22:20] BEEN AN OFFICIAL COMPLAINT FILED FOR MS. ALLISON? >> HAS THERE BEEN AN OFFICIAL [1:22:26] COMPLAINT FILED FOR ALLISON? >> WAIT A MINUTE, YOU GET TO ASK QUESTIONS BUT THE PUBLIC CAN'T [1:22:32] ASK QUESTIONS AND GET ANSWERS? YOU CAN PUT SOMEBODY ON THE SPOT FOR THAT? [1:22:37] THAT IS SO HYPOCRITICAL. >> COMMISSIONER GURIAN-SHERMAN. >> YOU'RE PUTTING JANA WILLIAMS [1:22:43] AND HER FAMILY IN A POSITION OF RETALIATION JUST LIKE COMMISSIONER OLSEN SAID. [1:22:49] >> MS. COMMISSIONER GURIAN-SHERMAN. >> THIS IS ANOTHER THING YOU SHOULD PROBABLY NOTE. >> HOLD ON ONE SECOND. [1:22:58] >> COMMISSIONER GURIAN-SHERMAN -- DO NOT TRY TO CALL ME OUT ON THIS ONE. WE HAVE A MEETING THAT'S [1:23:04] ADJOURNED. >> I DON'T LIKE TO USE THE GAVEL BECAUSE I WANT TO RESPECT EVERYONE. I HATE TO BANG ON THE GAVEL. BUT I WOULD ASK IS THAT WE HAVE [1:23:12] DECORUM SO THAT WE CAN HEAR. SO IS THERE A MOTION TO EXTEND [1:23:18] THE PUBLIC HEARING TO A DEFINITE TIME TO ALLOW MORE SPEAKERS IF SOMEONE ELSE SIGNED UP? [1:23:23] DO WE KNOW IF ANYONE ELSE HAS SIGNED UP? WE'RE HERE TO HEAR YOU, BUT IF [1:23:29] YOU DON'T SIGN UP, WE DON'T KNOW YOU WANT TO SPEAK. >> I PUT FORTH THE MOTION. >> I HE A MOTION THAT WE [1:23:35] RECESS FOR LIKE TWO MINUTES SO EVERYBODY CAN GO SIGN UP WHO WANTS TO CONTINUE SPEAKING AND THAT WE CONTINUE THE MEETING [1:23:41] UNTIL A SET TIME END AT 8:30. >> SECOND. >> THE MEETING ALREADY GOES TO [1:23:48] 8:30. >> THERE WAS NO END TIME LISTED ON THE AGENDA FOR THE MEETING. >> COMMISSIONER GURIAN-SHERMAN, [1:23:55] I WOULD ASK THAT YOU STOP YELLING OUT LOUD AND HAVE [1:24:01] DECORUM, PLEASE. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. SO NOW I WILL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL AND THAT WILL GIVE [1:24:07] YOU GUYS TIME TO SIGN UP, WHOEVER WISHES TO RIGHT OVER HERE. CLERK, COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL TO EXTEND THE PUBLIC [1:24:14] HEARING UNTIL 8:30, TIME CERTAIN, TO ALLOW ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS TO SPEAK. [1:24:23] >> COMMISSIONER SCHANFIELD. >> YES. >> NEWMAN. >> YES. >> CLEMENT. [1:24:31] >> YES. >> STEWART WAS ABSENT. SORRY. GURIAN-SHERMAN. >> YES. >> CANADAY. [1:24:40] >> YES. >> WILLIAMS-JOHNSON. >> YES. [1:24:46] >> SMITH-KOOIMAN. >> YES. >> VICE CHAIR OLSEN. >> YES. >>HAIR REEVES. [1:24:52] >> YES. >> WE HAVE NINE AYES ON THE MOTION TO RECESS AND EXTEND. >> OKAY. [1:24:57] SO THE MOTION WAS TO PAUSE FOR TWOMINUTES. I DO HAVE FOUR ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS. BUT WE'LL GIVE TWO MINUTES FOR [1:25:04] PEOPLE BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS, TWO [1:25:10] ADDITIONAL MINUTES TO GO OVER HERE IN THE CORNER. [1:25:51] >> CAN WE HAVE THE QR CODE PUT BACK ON THE SCREEN, PLEASE? [1:25:58] DID EVERYONE SIGN UPHAT WISHED TO SIGN UP BESIDES MS. WILLIAMS IN THE CORNER HERE? [1:26:07] ISHERE ANYONE ELSE BESIDES THE FIVE SPEAKERS THAT WE HAVE SIGNED UP? [1:27:02] [RECESS] >> OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD [1:27:08] AND GET STARTED. WE'RE GOING TO DO A TIME ENDING AT 8:30. IT IS NOW 7:57 AND WE DO HAVE A [1:27:15] FEW MORE SPEAKERS I'LL SAY THEM IN ORDER. I KNOW THERE'S ONE THAT I'M GOING TO BUTCHER AND I APOLOGIZE [1:27:24] BECAUSE I KNOW I SAID IT WRONG THE FIRST TIME. THE FIRST ONE IS ALYSSA WASHINGTON. [1:27:29] THE NEXT ONE IS AISHA. AND THEN MICHELLE GROSS IS [1:27:34] NUMBER THREE. JAY YATES IS NUMBER FOUR. ANDREW IS NUMBER FIVE. MS. WASHINGTON. [1:27:45] GO AHEAD. CAN WE START THE TIMER FOR TWO [1:27:54] MINUTES, PLEASE? ONE MOMENT, MS. WASHINGTON. [1:28:16] MS. WASHINGTON. >> SO WITH THE POLICIES THAT YOU GUYS HAVE UP, WHY WOULD YOU GUYS PUT THEM OUT THIS MORNING? [1:28:21] THAT'S NOT ENOUGH TIME FOR US. I WAS AT WORKNTIL 4:00 FOR US TO READ THROUGH IT. WHY DO YOU GUYS DO THINGS LIKE [1:28:28] THAT? NOT GIVE US ENOUGH TIME TO LOOK OR ACTUALLY PUT IT OUT THERE FI. [1:28:35] COULD YOU GUYS ANSWER THAT? [1:28:41] SO YOU GUYS CAN'T RECOMMEND THEM [1:28:47] PUT IT OUT FOR THE PUBLIC -- [1:28:55] >> I KNOW WE DON'T WANT TO GO BACK AND FORTH. USUALLY WE ANSWER THE QUESTION THAT YOU GUYS GIVE US AT THE [1:29:01] NEXT MEETING SO THAT EVERYONE GETS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. BUT JUST TO THE POINT, WE DON'T [1:29:06] CONTROL WHEN THEY PUT IT OUT. BUT WE WILL NOTE IT. BECAUSE I WANT PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO READ THE POLICIES, THAT'S THE POINT OF IT. [1:29:15] BUT WE DON'T RECOMMEND WHEN THE CITY PUTS OUT. WE'RE JUST VOLUNTEERS. [1:29:21] >> WHAT WOULD Y'ALL HAVE TO DO TO GO BY PRACTICES INSTEAD OF POLICY? WHAT DO Y'ALL HAVE TO DO TO DO [1:29:27] THAT? >> THAT HAS BEEN NOTED. THANK YOU. >> WHEN DO WE FIND OUT ABOUT THAT? THE NEXT MEETING? [1:29:33] >> AT OUR JUNE 9TH MEETING, WE'LL HAVE ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED TODAY. [1:29:39] WHEN THERE'S A HANDOUT LIKE WE DID LAST TIME, WE T TO ANSWER [1:29:44] THEM. I DON'T MEAN TO TAKE UP YOUR TIME. WE GET THE QUESTIONS ANSWERED AND THEN WE ANSWER AT THE NEXT [1:29:50] MEETING. >> JOT THIS QUESTION DOWN TOO IF YOU DON'T MIND, SINCE THERE ARE POLICIES AND WHEN THE POLICE DO [1:29:56] NOT FOLLOW THEM, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AER THAT AND WHEN THEY DON'T FOLLOW THE POLICIES? [1:30:03] >> THANK YOU. >> THEY'RE NOT ALREADY FOLLOWING THEM BUT SINCE -- YEAH. [1:30:08] >> THANK YOU. >> AYSHA SOLONIK. [1:30:17] I HATE BUTCHERING PEOPLE'S NAMES. THEY DO THAT TO ME ALL THE TIME. [1:30:33] GO AHEAD. >> SO WHAT IS IT THAT WE CAN EXPECT FROM YOU ALL AS FAR AS A [1:30:39] TIMEFRAME ON COMPLAINTS THAT YOU HAVE REVIEWED? WHEN DO WE SEE ACTION ON THOSE? [1:30:45] LIKE I'M A LITTLE NEW TO THIS. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THIS PROCEDURE TO ME, PLEASE. [1:30:53] >> I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND ANSWER THAT QUESTION IF NO ONE MINDS. [1:30:58] WHEN AOMPLAINT COMES IN, THERE IS A TIMELINE AND A PROCESS. >> WHAT IS THAT TIMELINE, [1:31:03] PLEASE. >> I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBERS IN MY HEAD. BUT THERE'S STILL A PROCESS. >> WHERE CAN I FIND THAT? >> IT'S ON THE WEBSITE. [1:31:08] >> IT'S OUTLINED. >> YEAH, THE TIMELINE IS ON THERE. THERE'S A NUMBER OF DATES HERE, A NUMBER OF DATES THERE. [1:31:14] BUT IN TMS OF THE ACTUAL DISCIPLINE, THAT HAS TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS AS IF YOU WERE [1:31:20] AN EMPLOYEE. YOU HAVE DUE PROCESS, YOU GET TO GO THROUGH A HEARING, YOU GET TO [1:31:26] ALL MATTER OF THINGS IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH IT, BEFORE IT'S FINALLY RESOLVED. AND THAT'S A PROCESS THAT WE [1:31:32] CAN'T DETERMINE HOW LONG THAT PROCESS TAKES. OPCR HAS A PROCESS AND TIMELINE, [1:31:37] BUT UNIONS THERE'S A GRIEVANCE PROCESS, IT TAKES AS LONG AS IT TAKES. [1:31:43] WE JUST CAN'T, AGAIN ALL WORKERS ARE SUPPOSED TO GET DUE PROCESS [1:31:49] WITH GRIEVANCE, NO MATTER WHAT EMPLOYEE YOU ARE. >> I JUST WANT TO STATE THAT FOR [1:31:54] THE RECORD, THIS IS RETRAUMATIZING AND CAUSING OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY A LOT OF ANGST [1:32:02] AND UNNECESSARY STRESS AND TRAUMA WHEN THERE'S NO RESOLVE. [1:32:07] LIKE WE'RE DOING A LOT OF TALKING. WE'RE REVIEWING A LOT OF PAPER [1:32:15] AND THE PROCEDURES AREN'T BEING CHANGED. SO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE SO THAT [1:32:20] PROCEDURES ARE ACTUALLY CHANGED AND WE'RE RETRAINING ANGRY COPS OR GETTING RID OF THEM. [1:32:27] >> YOU REALLY SHOULD SPEAK TO YOUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBER BECAUSE THEY HAVE FAR MORE POWER THAN [1:32:33] WHAT WE DO. >> I THOUGHT THAT'S WHY THIS [1:32:38] BODY WAS ESTABLISHED. [1:32:52] >> I WOULD LIKE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE TIMELINE. [1:32:59] EXCUSE ME, IF I CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT THE TIMELINE JUST TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM. >> ONE MOMENT. [1:33:07] WE'RE GOING TO GET IT UP HERE. WE'RE GOING TO GET IT TOGETHER. THEY HAVE INTAKE, WITHIN THREE DAYS OF RECEIVING YOUR [1:33:13] COMPLAINT, THEY HAVE A CASE NUMBER ASSIGNED TOIT. WITHIN SEVEN DAYS OF GETTING YOUR COMPLAINT, THEY NOTIFY YOU [1:33:19] OF THE CASE NUMBER BY EMAIL. IF YOU DID NOT PROVIDE CONTACT INFORMATION, THEARE NOT ABLE TO SEND YOU A CASE NUMBER. [1:33:25] WHEN YOU FILE A COMPLAINT, GIVE THEM INFORMATION TO REACH YOU. WITHIN 30 DAYS OF RECEIVING YOUR COMPLAINT, THEY GATHER EVIDENCE, [1:33:31] THEY MAY CONTACTOU DURING THIS STEP. AND WITHIN 30 DAYS OF RECEIVING THE COMPLAINT AGAIN THEY INVESTIGATE THE CASE, REFER THE [1:33:38] CASE, AND LET ME RERASE THAT. WITHIN 30 DAYS OF GETTING YOUR COMPLAINT, THEY MAKE A DECISION HOW TO ROUTE THE CASE, [1:33:45] INVESTIGATE THE CASE, REFER THE CASE, DISMISS THE CASE. THEY MAKE A DECISION WITHIN THAT [1:33:50] TIME, 30 DAYS OF RECEIVING THE COMPLAINT. WITHIN 180 DAYS THE [1:33:55] INVESTIGATION ENSUES. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? >> YEAH, THAT'S THE BEGINNING [1:34:01] STEPS. BUT WHAT IS THE RESOLVE? WHEN DO WE GET TO SEE SOMETHING [1:34:06] TAKE PLACE THAT GIVES US -- >> THAT'S WHAT I WAS REFERRING TO A UNION. [1:34:12] IF SOMEONE FILES A COMPLAINT AGAINST YOU AS A WORKER,OU HAVE A RIGHT TO SAY WHAT HAPPENS IN TERMS OF I AGREE WITH THAT [1:34:18] THING, I DON'T, I WANT TO GRIEVE IT, I WANT TO CHALLENGE THAT. THAT PROCESS GOES THROUGH THAT PROCESS. [1:34:23] WEAN'T CONTROL HOW LONG THAT PROCESS TAKES. BECAUSE IT DEPENDS ON THE INDIVIDUAL EMPLOYEE. >> IT GOES THROUGH ARBITRATION. [1:34:29] >> SO THE INDIVIDUAL EMPLOYEE MAKES A DECISION ON THAT. >> WHEN IS CHIEF O'HARA'S REVIEW [1:34:35] AND CAN WE SIT IN ON THAT? >> CAN YOU SIT -- I WOULD HAVE TO REFER TO THE CY IF YOU CAN [1:34:41] SIT IN. THE PUBLIC OR -- >> IS THE REVIEW BOARD TAKING [1:34:47] COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? >> I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER, WE WILL HAVE TO GET THAT ANSWER TO [1:34:53] YOU AT THE NEXT MEETING SO WE'LL WRITE THAT ONE DOWN. >> HIS CTRACT EXPIRES [1:34:58] DECEMBER 31ST. >> BUT I CAN'T TELL YOU -- >> HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT'S NOT RENEWED? >> YOU CAN TALK TO YOUR COUNCIL [1:35:06] MEMBER, GIVE THEM YOUR CONCERNS. >> HE'S RESPONSIBLE FOR AT LEAST [1:35:11] FIVE DEATHS AND I'VE KEPT TRACK OF OVER 2,000 WRONGFULLY [1:35:17] INCARCERATED INDIVIDUALS IN HENNEPIN COUNTY. [1:35:24] AND THAT'S ABOUT 5% OF THE 11 WRONGFULLY INCARCERATED IN THE STATE. SO THAT'S A BIG PERCENTAGE TO [1:35:32] COME OUT OF HIS JURISDICTION ALONE. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. MICHELLE GROSS. [1:35:38] >> I JUST WANT TO SAY TOO IN TERMS OF DISCIPLINE -- YOU MAY NEVER SEE THE RESULT OF A [1:35:43] COMPLAINT. >> POINT OF ORDER, PLEASE. >> POINT OF ORDER. >> WE ARE HERE TO LISTEN. WE ARE HERE TO LISTEN TO THE PUBLIC. MORE PEOPLE HAVE SNED UP. [1:35:49] LET'S DO THAT. >> MICHELLE GROSS. >> SO I USED THE CASE EARLIER OF [1:35:55] EBONY DOINS TO ILLUSTRATE THE FACT THAT THE PROBLEMS HAVEN'T BEEN SOLVED. I WANTED TO POINT OUT A COUPLE [1:36:01] OF THINGS. ONE IS AGAIN THAT TODAY THE POLICE CHIEF CAME OUT AND SAID I BACK MY GUYS 100%. [1:36:07] NOW THE VIDEOS THAT WE GOT SHOW THAT MS. DOBBINS AND HER CHILDREN ARE IN THEIR LIVING [1:36:13] ROOM HAVING BEEN ROUSED FROM THE BED BY GUNPOINTING. THEY'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF THEIR [1:36:19] LIVING ROOM AND SHE'S SAYING I NEED YOU TO LEAVE MY HOUSE. IT'S 2:00 IN THE MORNING ON A [1:36:24] WEDNESDAY OR THURSDAY MORNING. SHE'S TELLING THEM I NEED YOU TO LEAVE MY HOUSE. AND ONE OF THE OFFICERS LEANS [1:36:29] OVER TO HER FACE AND SAYS TO HER, YOU'RE NOT IN CHARGE OF THIS, I'M IN CHARGE OF THIS. [1:36:35] I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW THAT COMPORTS WITH POLICIES 5-104 AND [1:36:42] 5-109 BECAUSE I'M PRETTY SURE THEY DON'T. THIS IS ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WITH COMING OUT WITH THESE POLICIES [1:36:48] NOW. E EFFORT TO GATHER INPUT ON THE POLICIES STARTED LAST JULY. WE'RE IN MAY OF THE NEXT YEAR. [1:36:55] THESE POLICIES SHOULD HAVE BEEN FINALIZED, SHOULD HAVE BEEN PUT TOGETHER INTO TRAINING AND THE [1:37:01] MINNEAPOLIS POLICE SHOULD BE GETTING TRAINED ON THESE POLICIES RIGHT NOW. BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN SO MUCH FOOT DRAGGING AND THE OTHER [1:37:08] QUESTION I GUESS I'VE GOT AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'LL ANSWER THIS QUESTION OR NOT, I CERTAINLY HOPE YOU WILL, IS THAT'S THESE [1:37:16] POLICIES. WHAT ABOUT THE USE OF FORCE POLICIES? WHEN ARE YOU ALL GOING TO HAVE AN EVENT TO GATHER INPUT ON THE [1:37:21] USE OF FORCE POLICIES? WHICH TO ME ARE ARGUABLY SOME OF THE MOST IMPORTANT POLICIES AND SOME OF THE WORST WRITTEN [1:37:27] FRANKLY. I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THOSE USE OF FORCE POLICIES. AND THE FACT THAT WE AREITTING OUT HERE THIS LONG WITHOUT ANY [1:37:33] ABILITY TO HAVE FEEDBACK, NOW OUR ORGANIZATION WENT AHEAD AND SPENT HUNDREDS OF HOURS AS [1:37:39] VOLUNTEERS SUBMITTING FEEDBACK. BY THE WAY, I WILL MENTION THAT BACK WHEN ALL OF THIS FIRST STARTED WITH YOUR POLICY WORK, [1:37:45] WE OFFERED TO SHARE OUR POLICIES AND OUR WORK WITH YOU. WE WERE ROUNDLY, ROUNDLY AND [1:37:51] RUDELY TREATED AND TOLD WE DON'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT WHAT YOU ALL [1:37:57] DID. GO THE HELL AWAY. STOP BOTHERING US COMMUNITY. GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE. [1:38:02] THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT YOU GUYS SAID. AND EXCUSE MY LANGGE, BUT THAT IS THE TRUTH. YOU ALL TREATED US SO RUDELY AND [1:38:08] SO BADLY THAT I STOPPED COMING TO MEETINGS AFTER THAT. BECAUSE WHY? I WAS JUST GETTING MYSELF ANGRY [1:38:13] AND WASTING MY TIME. >> THANK YOU, MICHELLE. JAY YATES. [1:38:25] >> MY NAME IS JAY YATES. AGAIN AND FOR THE SAKE OF ACCOUNTABILITY I LIVE IN WARD 8. [1:38:30] NOT OY DO I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT HOW ANYTHING THAT CHIEF BRIAN O'HARA DID AROUND THE [1:38:38] MOTURI OR LUCIER CASES DEMONSTRATED NEUTRALITY, [1:38:44] RESPECT, ANY OF THESE PILLARS OF PROCEDURAL JUSTICE THAT YOU JUST PUT FORWARD. AND THIS ILLUSTRATES EXACTLY [1:38:49] WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. PUTTING FORWARD A NICELY WORDED [1:38:54] POLICY DOES NOT PROTECT US FROM POLICEIOLENCE AND IT DOESN'T PROTECT FAMILIES THAT ARE [1:38:59] FIGHTING FOR JUSTICE FOR THEIR LOVED ONES AFTER THE POLICE HAVE BOTCHED THEIR INVESTIGATION. [1:39:04] IT DOES NOT PROTECT THEM FROM THE HARASSMENT AND THE DISRESPECT THAT MPD ROUTINELY [1:39:11] VISITS ON VICTIMS OF POLICE CRIMES AND PEOPL THAT THEY HAVE FAILED. HOW DO ANY OF THESE POLICIES [1:39:18] MATTER IF YOU, FROM ONE VOLUNTEER TO ANOTHER, HAVE NO ABILITY TO ENFORCE IT, YOU'RE [1:39:24] TELLING US TO GO TO OUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. WHAT IS THE POINT OF THIS BODY? [1:39:29] WHAT ARE YOU HERE FOR IF YOU CAN'T ACTUALLY MAKE THEM DO ANY OF THIS? [1:39:35] WHAT'S THE POINT OF HAVING US COME TO THIS MEETING TO ASK YOU QUESTIONS WHEN YOU CAN'T TELL US [1:39:42] BASIC INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS TO OUR COMPLAINTS AFTER THEY'RE SUBMITTED? HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO FEEL [1:39:48] COMFORTABLE EVEN SUBMITTING THE COMPLAINTS WHEN WE DON'T KNOW HOW YOU PROTECT PEOPLE WHO ARE [1:39:54] SUBMITTING THEM FROM POLICE RETALIATION? THAT'S A DOCUMENTED THING THAT [1:39:59] MPD HAS DONE. THEY STALKED PEOPLE WHO HAVE STOOD UP AGAINST POLICE MURDER. THEY HAVE INTIMIDED THEM. [1:40:05] THEY HAVE ATTEMPTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY DON'T BRING COMPLAINTS FORWARD ANYMORE. AND THEN EVEN IF WE DO BRING THE [1:40:12] COMPLAINT FORWARD, EVEN IF WE GO THROH ALL OF THIS, YOU'RE TELLING US WE HAVE TO WAIT 180 [1:40:18] DAYS TO BE TOLD THAT IT'S BEING DISMISSED BECAUSE 90% OF THESE [1:40:23] CASES JUST GET DISMISSED AND NOT REVIEWED AT ALL. SO WHAT IS THE POINT OF THIS [1:40:29] BODY? PLEASE ANSWER THAT QUESON. >> THANK YOU, MR. YATES. JANET WILLIAMS. [1:40:50] >> MS. WILLIAMS SAID I COULD TAKE HER SPOT. >> YOUR NAME? [1:40:55] >> JESS S-U-N-D-I-N. I'M A RESIDENT IN WARD 6. [1:41:01] FIRST OF ALL, I WANTED TO ADDRESS YOU,S. REEVES. COMMISSIONER REEVES, WE'RE [1:41:06] FACEBOOK FRIENDS. FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, WE WERE HAVING A LITTLE CONVERSATION ABOUT POLITICS OVER THERE. [1:41:12] I'M A RETIRED ASME WORKER. I KNOW ABOUT WORKERS' RIGHTS. [1:41:18] I ALSO KNOW THAT THERE IS NO EMPLOYER THAT HAS A WKER CONTRACT THAN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS WHEN IT COMES TO THE [1:41:25] POLICE DEPARTMENT. THIS IS NO A NORMAL EMPLOYEE/EMPLOYER RELATIONSHIP. WITH THAT, COMES EXTRA [1:41:31] RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANYONE INVOLVED IN ACCOUNTABILITY FOR OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. [1:41:36] BECAUSE THE CONTRACT ISN'T ENOUGH. AND ESPECIALLY BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF ENFORCEMENT. SO I WANT TO SAY, THERE IS NO [1:41:42] REASON THAT WE HAVE TO DENY DUE PROCESS TO EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY [1:41:47] AT MPD AND CAN'T ALSO BE EXPEDITIOUS, RESPONSIVE, AND [1:41:52] TAKE OTHER ACTIONS AGGRESSIVELY TO DEAL WITH PROBLEM OFFICERS. I WANTED TO SAY ALSO, MY [1:41:57] EXPERIENCE AS SOMEONE WHO'S BEEN ORGANIZING AROUND POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY SINCE THE MURDER OF JAMAR CLARK, A SUPPORTER OF [1:42:04] THISORK FOR MUCH LONGER, NO ONE IS -- OBVIOUSLY NOT NO ONE -- VERY FEW PEOPLE ARE STILL [1:42:10] FILING COMPLAINTS WITH THE CITY AFTER YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS OF THE CITY'S FAILURE TO [1:42:16] ACTUALLY REVIEW AND SUSTAIN COMPLAINTS. AND THAT MEANS, WE NEED YOU TO [1:42:21] ADDRS THESE PRACTICES REGARDLESS OF COMPLAINTS. WE NEED PROACTIVE ACCOUNTABILITY [1:42:26] WORK BY YOUR COMMISSION. WE NEED YOU TO NOT ONLY LOOK AT THE USE OF FORCE POLICY, BUT WHAT A NUMBER OF SPEAKERS HAVE [1:42:34] RAISED, WE NEED YOU TO EVALUATE THEIR PRACTICES AND IDENTIFY PROBLEMS WITHOUT INDIVIDUALS [1:42:39] PUTTING THEIR NECK OUT AND BRINGING INDIVIDUAL COMPLAINTS. I ALSO WANTED TO SAY I KNOW THAT [1:42:46] YOU HAD THE PERFORMAN REVIEW OF THE CHIEF COMING UP. I WANT TO ECHO THE OTHER [1:42:51] SPEAKERS WHO HAVE SAID HE NEEDS TO GO. HE WAS SUPPOSEDLY HE WAS GOING [1:42:59] BETTER. WE HAVE SEEN THE OPPOSITE. THE NUMBER OF VICTIMS OF VIOLENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT HE HAS TOLD LIES ON IN THE [1:43:05] PUBLIC MEDIA AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN. DAVIS MATURI HE BLAMED HIM FOR [1:43:10] GETTING SHOT BECAUSE HE CUT DOWN A TREE IN HIS OWN YARD. THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE. HE SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN SAYING [1:43:16] ANY OF THAT TO THE MEDIA. IN ALLISON'S CASE, HE WENT ON THE RECORD AND CALLED HER, [1:43:21] ALLEGED THAT SHE DIED BY DRUG OVERDOSE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT HIS OFFICERS TOLD HIM. HE DIDN'T CHECK IT OUT. HE TOOK THEM AT FACE VALUE. [1:43:28] HIS JOB IS TO HOLDIS OFFICERS TO ACCOUNT. AND IF HE WON'T DO IT, YOU NEED TO HOLD HIM TO ACCOUNT. [1:43:34] THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR. THERE'S A LOT OF EXAMPLES THAT COD BE GIVEN. I WANT TO END BY ACKNOWLEDGING I [1:43:43] UNDERSTAND THAT JAY CALLED YOU VOLUNTEERS. YOU GET A SMALL STIPENDOR EACH MEETING. I THINK THIS SHOULD BE A [1:43:50] FULL-TIME JOB. I THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE THE TIME, THE RESOURCES TO MAKE IT A FULL-TIME JOB. AND THEN I THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE [1:43:55] THE POWER TO IMPLEMENT YOUR FINDINGS AND NOT ONLY MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS. SO I RECOGNIZE THAT YOU ARE IN A [1:44:01] DIFFICULT POSITION, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT YOU DO HAVE IS A PLATFORM. AND I CAN ASK YOU AS A MEMBER OF [1:44:07] THIS COMMUNITY TO SPEAK FOR US. DON'T BE A SHIELD FOR THE SYSTEM AS IT IS. [1:44:13] DON'T PROTECT THEM AGAINST US. INSTEAD BE OUR VOICE INSIDE THE [1:44:18] BACK ROOMS, BUT ALSO COME OUTSIDE WITHS AND STAND WITH US FOR REAL CHANGE. [1:44:23] SO THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO RAISE. I UNDERSTAND THAT YOUR POWERS AND YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO DO WORK [1:44:29] IN THIS COMMISSIONRE LIMITED. BUT YOU HAVE BEEN PUT IN A POSITION WHERE YOU CAN SEE THINGS THAT OTHERS DON'T SEE. [1:44:38] YOU HAVE THE EAR THAT OTHER PEOPLE DON'T GET TO TALK TO, AND WE NEED YOU TO USE THAT IN THE BENEFIT OF COMMUNITY. [1:44:43] IN THE NAME OF ALLISON LUCIER AND SO MANY OTHERS WHO HAVE BEEN HARMED BECAUSE OF POLICE VIOLENCE, ABUSE, AND NEGLECT. [1:44:50] I URGE YOU TO TAKE A CHANGE IN HOW YOU'RE MOVING. AND IF NOTHING ELSE, WEIGH IN ON [1:44:56] FIRING THAT CHIEF. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, TCC4J, CPAC, [1:45:04] ACTIVISTS FOR ALLISON FOR BEING FIERCE. AND YOU DO HAVE VOICES ON THE [1:45:10] INSIDE AND WILL CONTINUE TO. >> POINT OFORDER, COMMISSIONER GURIAN-SHERMAN, CAN YOU MUTE YOUR COMPUTER AUDIO, IT'S VERY [1:45:17] DISTRACTING WHEN I'M TRYING TO LISTEN TO TESTIMONY. I CAN HEAR IT THROUGH THE BACK. [1:45:28] >> I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY DOWN HERE THOUGH. BUT THANK YOU. CHUCK, TURKIC AND THEN ANDREW. [1:45:42] >> STILL CHUCK TURKIC, STILL WARD 6. [1:45:47] ONE MINOR THING. I NOTICED ON YOUR SLIDE IT SAID WE ENCOURAGE RESIDENTS OF WARD 9 [1:45:54] TO APPLY FOR THE CCPO. WHAT YOU MEAN IS YOU ENCOURAGE ANYONE TO APPLY FOR THE CCPO. [1:45:59] YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A RESIDENT OF WARD 9 TO OCCUPY THE WARD 9 [1:46:04] SEAT. I KNOW THAT BECAUSE MY FIRST REPRESENTATIVE ON THIS COMMISSION DID NOT LIVE IN WARD 6. AND THIS IS BECAUSE THE CITY [1:46:10] ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, WHICH I'VE ALREADY INSULTED, INTERPRETS ONE [1:46:16] PER WARD IN A VERY WEIRD WAY. THEY INTERPRET THAT AS MEANING [1:46:22] THAT EACH MEMBER OF THE CITY COUNCIL WHO NOMINATES A [1:46:28] COMMISSIONER, WE HA TO HAVE ONE FROM EACH OF THOSE COUNCIL MEMBERS. NOW NO COURT IS GOING TO [1:46:35] INCORPORATE ONE PER WARD IN THAT FASHION. I GUARANTEE IT. IF I HAD ENOUGH MONEY, I'D SUE [1:46:40] THE BASTARDS ABOUT THIS. A COUPLE OF OTHER POINTS, THE [1:46:47] ELEFA GROUP TALKED TO OFFICERS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS IN FOCUS GROUPS OR JUST GENERAL GROUPS. [1:46:52] AND ONE OF THEIR COMMENTS THAT THEY RECEIVED WAS THAT OFFICERS [1:46:57] WANTED CLEAR POLICIES. AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE THREE LESSONS THAT YOU PUT IN ONE OF YOUR SLIDES. [1:47:05] AND I HAVE LOOKED AT AND I HAVE READ THE 300 CASE SUMMARIES THAT [1:47:12] CAME OUT WHEN THE POLICE CONDUCT OVERSIGHT COMMISSION, THOSE ARE THE ANONYMIZED REPORTS YOU'RE [1:47:19] JUST STARTING TO GET. LOOKED AT ALL 300 PLUS OF THOSE. AND I'VE READ ALL OF THEM. [1:47:24] AND I DON'T RECALL, MAYBE I FORGOT. I DON'T RECALL A SINGLE ONE WHERE THE CASE TURNED ON THE [1:47:29] FACT THAT THE POLICY WASN'T THE CLEAR TO THE OFFICER. THE POLICIES ARE FINE. [1:47:36] THAT INSTANCEAS NEVER ARISEN AT LEAST IN THE CASES THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED THE CASE SUMMARIES [1:47:42] FOR, WHICH WASN'T ALL OF THEM. BUT I LOOKED AT ALL OF THE THOUSAND PLUS CASE SYNOPSES, AND [1:47:48] THAT DIDN'T SEEM TO BE A FACTOR IN ANY OF THOSE AS WELL. SO THE POLICIES ARE CLEAR ENOUGH [1:47:53] FOR THE OFFICE. NOW THAT I'VE INSULTED POLICIES, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A POLICY SUGGESTION. [1:47:59] THE POLICIES THAT YOU HAVE LOOKED AT TALKED ABOUT [1:48:05] DE-ESCALATION -- >> CHUCK, CAN I HAVE YOU SUBMIT THAT IN WRITING? >> I'D LIKE TO SAY THIS IF I [1:48:12] MIGHT, IN ORDER TO BE AN OFFICER, YOU HAVE TO BE RECERTIFIED IN YOUR ABILITY TO [1:48:18] SHOOT A GUN EVERY SINGLE YEAR. YOU'D NEVER HAVE TO GET [1:48:24] CERTIFIED EVEN IN THE FIRST PLACE LET ALONE RECERTIFIED EVERY YEAR TO SHOW YOUR [1:48:29] EXPERTISE IN DE-ESCALATION TACTICS. WHAT DOES THAT SHOW? [1:48:34] WHAT DOES THAT SAY ABOUT WHAT IS IMPORTANT FOR THE MINNEAPOLIS POLICE DEPARTMENT? [1:48:40] THAT'S WHAT I THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE SUGGESTED IN THOSE PARAGRAPHS THAT DEALT WITH [1:48:45] DE-ESCALATION WHENOU REVIEWED THOSE POLICIES? >> ANDREW, BEFORE YOU COME UP -- [1:48:51] CHUCK, I WANT TO SAY, WE WANT SOMEONE FROM WARD 9. THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AREA [1:48:57] HAS SOMEONE ON THE COMMISSION. THAT'S WHY THERE WAS AN EMPHASIS ON WARD 9. THEY WOULD LIKE IF SOMEONE LIVES [1:49:04] IN WARD 9 TO APPLY FOR THE COMMISSION. THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE -- YEAH, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT [1:49:10] THERE'S SOMEONE FROM WARD 9. >> POINT OF CLARIFICATION. IT WAS THE COUNCIL PERSON WHO [1:49:17] REQUESTED THAT. >> YEAH, SO COUNCIL PERSON CHAVEZ REQUESTED IT WAS SOMEONE [1:49:22] FROM WARD 9 SO WE REALLY WANT TO TRY TO GET SOMEONE FROM WARD 9. IF YOU KNOW SOMEONE, PLEASE HAVE [1:49:30] . >> I HAVE TWO BASIC COMMENTS. THE FIRST IS WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT POLICY, IT'S REALLY HARD TO COME UP AND MAKE RLLY [1:49:37] GENERAL STATEMENTS. THE SPECIFIC WORDING IS VERY IMPORTANT. IN THE NONRACIAL PROFILING [1:49:43] POLICY, IT SAYS MEMBERS MAY TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE REPORTED [1:49:49] DESCRIPTORS OF THE SUSPECTS AS LONG AS IT'S CREDIBLE, RELIABLE, AND LOCAL BASED INFORMATION. [1:49:55] AND THEY CAN BE USED IN THE SAME WAY REGARDING HEIGHT, WEIGHT, AND CLOTHING. WHAT IF I SAID WOMAN IN THE RED [1:50:01] SHIRT. THAT'S NOT VERY SPECIFIC RIGHT NOW. WHAT THE POLICE LIKE TO USE IS [1:50:07] BLACK MALE 15 TO 25. THAT'S TOO BROAD. BUT IT'S HARD TO ELIMINATE THAT [1:50:13] KIND OF THING WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO LOOK AT THE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE WHERE YOU COULD INCLUDE SOMETHING LIKE, IT HAS TO [1:50:18] SIGNIFICANTLY NARROW THE POOL OF SUSPECTS. NOW, I DO WANT TO REGARD WHAT [1:50:24] MICHELLE WAS TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE DID SHARE OUR POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS. AN EMAIL THAT WE GOT BACK ALONG [1:50:31] THE LINES OF SHOULD WE WORK WITH CUABB SAID I DISAGREE AS WE HAVE [1:50:37] A LOT OF VERY IMPORTANT SECRETS CONCERNING POWERFUL CONSPIRIAL [1:50:45] INTERESTS REACHING ALL THE WAY TO THE VENDING MACHINE AT THE END OF THE HALLWAY. APPARENTLY WE HAVE A REALLY SARCASTIC MEMBER THAT GOES ON TO [1:50:51] SAY I WILL NOT JEOPARDIZE OUR SECRETS WE HAVE BEEN KEEPING FROM CUAPB BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AS A SECURITY [1:50:57] RISK TO THE CONSPIRATORIAL INTERESTS AND WE CAN'T LET THEM [1:51:03] IN OR WE'LL ALL LOSE OUR SWEET VENDING MACHINE PRIVILEGES AND WE PROMISED IN RETURN FOR OUR [1:51:09] COMPLIANCE IN SAID CONSPIRATORIAL GOALS. ALSO USING MY GOVERNMENT [1:51:14] CONNECTIONS, I HACKED INTO YOUR WEBSITE AND FOUND YOUR POLICIES YOU WANT TO KEEP SECRET FROM US. YOU CANIND THEM HERE. [1:51:21] AND WE WERE VERY OPEN ABOUT THEM. SO I DO NOT THINK THAT'S REALLY [1:51:28] EXTEING AN ARM TO THE COMMUNITY. YOU GUYS ALL HAVE FREE SPEECH. BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT LEVEL OF [1:51:34] SARCASM REALLY IS WHAT YOU GUYS WANT TO REFLECT IN YOUR STATEMENTS TO THE COMMUNITY WHEN [1:51:39] THEY'RE SAYING WE WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH YOU. THANK YOU. [1:51:45] STURM,E IS NO LONGER HERE. >> THANK YOU. SEEING NO FURTHER OTHER [1:51:51] COMMENTS -- NO ONE ELSE IS SIGNED UP. I DON'T SEE ANYTHING. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE WAS NO [1:51:56] OTHER SHEET. [1:52:05] WE SWITCHED THE SHEET OUT. DAVE IS CORRECT, HE DID SIGN UP. COME ON UP, DAVE. [1:52:11] MY APOLOGIES. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> A COUPLE OF THINGS TO ANSWER [1:52:18] THE WOMAN'S QUESTION WHO ASKED YOU ABOUT TIMELINES. IN THE PAST, MANY CASES TOOK [1:52:24] FIVE YEARS TO RESOLVE. [1:52:29] AND YOU ARE STILL, ONE OF THE CASES THAT YOU SAW AT YOUR LAST MEETING WAS FROM FIVE YEARS AGO. [1:52:38] SO THE CONSENT DECREE MANDATES TIGHTER TIMELINES, BUT IT SURE [1:52:43] HASN'T GONE INTO EFFECT AT THIS POINT. [1:52:49] AND IF THERE IS NOT DISCIPLINE YOU HEAR VIRTUALLY NOTHING BACK. [1:52:54] OFTENTIMES LITERALLY NOTHING BACK TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO YOUR CASE. [1:53:00] SO I'M SORRY TO HAVE TO SAY THAT TO PEOPLE. ALSO WE'VE BEEN TOLD TO CONTACT [1:53:06] OUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS CHOOSE YOU, [1:53:12] INCIDENTALLY ONE OF YOUR MEMBERS IS FROM APPLE VALLEY. [1:53:17] THAT'S OUTSIDE OF ANY WARD I KNOW OF. [1:53:22] AND THEY CHOOSE YOU AND THEY SET A BUDGET. BUT THE DISCIINE OF THE [1:53:28] POLICE, IF YOU KNOW THE CITY CHARTER, IS THE RESPONSIBILITY [1:53:35] OF THE MAYOR. AND SO DON'T TALK ABOUT CITY COUNCIL AS BEING YOUR PROBLEM [1:53:42] THERE. IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT WE NEED TO GO AND YOU NEED TO GO TO THE [1:53:50] MAYOR. WITH OUR CURRENT MAYOR.ITH THAT [1:53:56] HE'S THE ONE WHO KEEPS O'HARA IN HIS POSITION. [1:54:01] SO I THOUGHT I'D ALSO JUST COMMENT BRIEFLY ON THE ACTUAL POLICIES. [1:54:06] THE ONE ON RACE AND DIRIMINATION, I SUPPOSE THERE NEEDS TO BE A POLICY ON THAT. [1:54:15] BUT THAT'S REALLY ABOUT THE CULTURE OF OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. [1:54:20] THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN THE PROBLEM AND AS CHUCK SAYS, IT'S A PRACTICE NOT A POLICY. [1:54:26] THAT'S THE PROBLEM THERE. >> THANK YOU. [1:54:33] SO I SEE NO OTHER ANYBODY SIGNED UP. SO I WT TO THANK EVERYONE WHO PARTICIPATED IN THIS HEARING [1:54:38] TONIGHT AND EVERYONE WHO SPOKE OR SUBMITTED COMMENTS. WITH THAT WE COMPLETE ALL ITEMS AND THE COMMISSION STANDS [1:54:44] ADJOURNED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND HAVE A GOOD EVENING.