Good afternoon everyone. >> Welcome to the regular business of housing and zoning committee for May 12, 2026. My name is Jamal Osman and I'm the chair of this committee. I will call order in this meeting. Before we begin the meeting, I want to remind folks that this meeting are broadcasted live to enable greater public participation. They include real-time captioning to increase the accessibility of our proceeding to the community. Therefore, all speakers, please um be mindful of your the rate of your speech so that our captioners can fully transcribe all comments for the broadcast. We ask all speakers to monitor the speed and clarity of their comment. We'll be using a speaker management. At this time, I'll ask clerk to call the role so we can verify a quorum. >> Council member Rainville >> present. >> Warren >> present. >> Schaefer >> present. Chavez >> present. >> Chuktai >> present. Vice chair Chowry >> present. And chair Osman >> present. >> There are seven members present. >> Let the record reflect. We have a quorum. Our agenda is before us. We begin with the consent agenda. Item five through 15. Item five approves five liquor license. Item six approves 10 liquor license renewals. Item seven approves one gambling license. Item eight amends a previous action to correct the project address. Item nine approves a street name change for Caesar Chavez Avenue to 4th Avenue 4th Street North. Item 10 authorizes a contract with Broadway X Emerson for the North Common Arts Project. Item 11 is a resolution approving the budget for Mfield Center for Music. Item 12 authorizes a contract with North Point for tenant resources. Item 13 is a gift acceptance from Mississippi Watershed Organizations. Item 14 is approving reszoning for Dan Rice Street at 1914 Washington North. And lastly, item 15 is a setting a public hearing for June 2nd to consider a sale of multiple properties for Minneapolis homes. With that, does any of my colleagues have a question? I see council member Rainville. >> Thank you, chair. I say I just want to uh recognize the proprietor of Killian's Irish Pub uh which is on the consent agenda and I know you've put a lot of blood, sweat, and tears and I want to thank you for your confidence in the city of Minneapolis to risk your capital by and all the jobs you're going to employ and the taxes you pay too. So, thank you very much. I'll be voting for you, >> Council Member Warren. Thank you um chair and council vice president. I would like to um just recuse myself from the vote um on item number nine for the street name um for Caesar Chavez to 4th Avenue North between East Lindell and um Lindell Avenue North um and Border Avenue North. >> Thank you clerk. Please note that with that, I'll move all items. >> Sorry, >> I council member >> I didn't get on queue, but want to thank council member Warren for bringing that item forward. I really appreciate it. And for the public, uh, council has to abstain because she is the applicant on that item, uh, which is really important to the community. So, I want to thank her for her work on that. And even though it's a small technical change on the Minnesota fund for the indigenous wealth building project, I just have to mention that I can't wait for that project to be built on Franklin Avenue because it's going to be really important to our community. So, I know it's just a small technical change. This was approved a while back, but I just have to mention the importance of the project and thank staff for their work. >> Thank you, um, Vice Chair Chowry. >> Yeah, thank you. Um, Chair Osman, I just very briefly wanted to speak to item number nine, the street name change from C Caesar Chavez Avenue to 4th Avenue North, and thank Council Member Warren for submitting this application and bringing it forward. We unanimously voted for this in the planning commission. And I just I think it's just really important to highlight um you know just the continued harm and violence that women and non-men experience at the hands of men in power and obviously uh Cesar Chavez for a long time was a a big leader and icon of the labor movement but it is it is just important to recognize all of the women and the people that led that work and made it possible for better working conditions for farm workers um and strengthened the labor movement and um also recognized the harm that was caused to them. And I'm proud of the city of Minneapolis for making this name change and I'm really proud to serve with a colleague that was really nimble on this. Um and we should in any action possible continue to stand with women victims and survivors of all sorts of abuse and harm. So, thank you once again, Council Member Warren, and I'll be voting for this. Great. Thank you. I'll move all items for approval and set a public hearing for item 15 on June 2nd. All those in favor say I. >> And those opposed say nay. >> The eyes have it and the motion carries. Now we will proceed to our public hearing. Our first public hearing is a liquor license application for Cafe Harmony located at 501st Avenue North. I will invite great Elijah from business license to provide more context. Welcome, sir. >> Thank you, Mr. Chair, committee members. I'm District Supervisor Craig Elias with Licenses and Consumer Services. Today, I'm presenting an application from Harmony Coffee LLC doing business as Harmony Coffee or excuse me, Cafe Harmony located at 501 First Avenue Northeast, SweetB located in Ward 3. The business is applying to upgrade its license from an on sale wine with strong beer license Okay, thank you. The business is applying to upgrade its license from an on- sale wine with strong beer limited entertainment license to an on sale liquor limited entertainment with Sunday sales license. Cafe Harmony has held an on-sale wine license since 2025. And prior to that, they held a restaurant license since May of 2023. The premises consists of 32 indoor seats. Cafe Harmony intends to offer electronically reproduced music provided by a DJ. The hours of operation will be 8:00 a.m. to 1:00 a.m. daily. On April 21st, 2026, public hearing notices were sent to residents and property owners and posted on all residential buildings with four or more units within 600 ft of the premises. Notices were also sent to the Nicol Nicollet Island East Bank Neighborhood Organization, St. Anthony West Neighborhood Organization, the Minneapolis Regional Chamber, and Council Member Rainville. We have received no comments from the community. There have been no 311 or police calls for service as a direct direct result of the business's operations. The licenses and consumer services division recommends approval of an on-sale liquor limited entertainment with Sunday sales license. This concludes my presentation and at this time I will stand for any comments or questions. Thank you. >> Thank you so much for your presentation. I will proceed to open the public hearing and see if there's anyone who signed up to speak. Are there anyone who would like to speak on this item? Seeing none, I'll close the public hearing and call Council Member Rainville to make a motion. >> Thank you. I move approval of this item. >> Okay, that item has been approved and second. All those in favor say I. >> I. And those opposed say nay. >> The eyes have it and the motion carries. All right. Next public hearing is um expansion premises application for Indeed Brewing Company located at 711 15th Avenue U Northeast. I'll again invite uh Craig Lizen from business licensing to provide us. Welcome. >> Thank you, Chair Osman, committee members. Again, my name is Craig Elias. I'm a district supervisor with licenses and consumer services. And today I'm presenting an application from Indeed Brewing Company Minnesota LLC doing business as Indeed Brewing Company located at 711 15th Avenue Northeast Suite 102 in Ward 1. Indeed Brewing Company holds an on sale tap room, no entertainment with Sunday sales, and offsale malt liquor growler and sidewalk cafe licenses. The applicant is requesting a permanent expansion of premises. If approved, they plan to expand their outdoor patio located on private property into the existing parking lot and adding an additional 96 seats. The hours of operation of this area will be 11:00 a.m. to 11:00 p.m. On April 21st, 2026, public hearing notices were sent to residents and property owners and posted on all residential buildings with four or more units within 600 ft of the premises. Notices were also sent to the Logan Park neighborhood organization, Northeast Minneapolis Chamber, and Council Member Payne. We have received no comments from the community. There have been no 311 or police calls for service as a direct result of the business's operations. The Licenses and Consumer Services Division recommends approval of a permanent expansion of premises. This concludes my presentation. At this time, I will stand for any comments or questions. Thank you. >> Thank you so much. I'll proceed to open the public hearing and see if there's anyone who signed up to speak. Seeing none, I'll close the public hearing and I will call Council Member Chry. Still on. Are you Are you still Nope. All right. I will uh make that motion to approve this item. All those in favor say I. >> I. >> And those opposed say nay. The eyes have it and the motion carries. All right. We are on item three, a public hearing for interimm use permit to pathway recovery submitted by Dr. Sadik Ali located at uh 222 to Blazeale Avenue. I will invite Lindsay Silus from uh to provide us more context on this com of on this item. Please welcome. >> Thank you, Chair Osman, members of the committee. My name is Lindseay Silus. I'm a senior city planner in the land use design and preservation team in seabed planning. I'm here to present an interimuse permit for the property at 2222 Blazeell Avenue. The um the proposal here is to establish a state credentialed care facility serving up to 16 people for the duration of 5 years. This site is um it contains an existing two-story residential building with 12 dwelling units. The building includes six one-bedroom units and six two-bedroom units. And there are a total of 18 bedrooms in the um across the 12 dwelling units and there's a surface parking lot to the rear of the building. The applicant has proposed to establish a state credentialed care facility serving up to 16 people as an interim use. Um the client population would consist of uh people who have experienced homelessness, who are in recovery from substance abuse disorders, who are also parents of minor children. Um, two of the one-bedroom units would not be allowed to be used as part of the proposal. The maximum number of uh residents in the uh in the UN2 zoning district in a state credential care facility is 16 um and cannot go any further than that without pursuing a reszoning um that might potentially require a comprehensive plan amendment. So 16 is the absolute maximum here. And the 16 people would apply to both those in treatment and to the children living in the facility. Um so uh the two of the bedrooms would basically not be used as part of the proposal. The other 16 bedrooms would be used and it would be um one resident per bedroom. The expiration date proposed by the applicant is April 1st. Um oh 3031. That's not right. 2031. Um so the um this is the site. It has been in the past just kind of a standard uh residential building with the 12 dwelling units. applicant indicated that um some of the dwelling units are currently vacant, others are um pursuing eviction proceedings for lease violations and so the entire building will be vacant and available for the use. Here is a site plan showing the building footprint with the um surface parking spaces along the alley to the rear and um the floor plans. This is the first floor plan. It's kind of a a garden level model where there's a partial garden level on the um basement level. The grade out units are those that will not be used as part of the state credential care facility. And then the on the upper floors um each have uh two one-bedroom units and two two-bedroom units and those will all be used as part of the proposal. Um here are some photos submitted by the applicant of the building itself. >> [snorts] >> Um so for an intermuse permit, an intermuse is something that's allowed as a conditional use in the zoning district, but with an intermuse, a timeline can be attached to that approval. And so for intermuse permits, the the use has to comply with the findings for a conditional use. Um the proposal here is to establish essentially um kind of a a housing use for folks who are in recovery at an outpatient site. and um staff finds that all the findings for a conditional use would be met through this proposal and those are outlined in the staff report. As far as the specific findings for an interim use permit itself, um the first one is that the interim use is allowed as the conditional use in the zoning district. That is met here. There is a maximum though of 16 persons allowed in the zoning district. So that has been identified in the report and is one of the conditions of approval. the um the proposed use shall conform to the zoning code as if it were established as a conditional use. Those are met and then the applicant has proposed an expiration date of April 1st, 2031 to comply with the third finding for an intermuse permit that it not be open-ended and that it expire um no more than 5 years from the date it is approved. So staff is recommending approval of the application with two interim use uh conditions. The first is that um we're just codifying that expiration date of April 1st, 2031. And that number two is that there shall be no more than 16 people resident uh residing in the the facility as as part of the approval. That concludes my presentation and I'm happy to answer any questions. Thank you so much for that presentation. I am going to um open the public hearing and see if there's anyone who would like who would like to comment on this item. Welcome. >> Yes. Thank you chairman and members of the committee. My name is Janine Marches and I am actually um uh the owner and occupant of the building right to the south. So I'm in opposition at this time. Um, I've already submitted a written document that's fairly lengthy. I'm sorry it's so long, but I wanted you to have full information. Um, my written comments will be further in depth, so I'll try to be as brief as possible. Um, we share a legal easement with this property, which means there is an ingress and egress, maintenance, and where you can park that has to be maintained. Um, so we do have a legal basis for what happens there. My background is in nonprofit and educational social service programs. I have as staff or as a consultant originated, developed operating principles, staffed, licensed, and overseen programs within the city of Minneapolis, Henipin County, and even nationally. One such program did serve homeless families in their journey to achieve economic stability within a family and child development program. First and foremost, my objections are not about the people who are going to be served. It's about the structure of the organization, program policies and procedures, and the staff who are going to administer the program. I'm troubled that a DHS licensed program, Healthy Living Home Care LLC, provided services within 2222 Blazale Building with documented issues with service provided and appropriate outcomes for the clients. Recordkeeping and documentation are a snapshot of how programs treat their clients. DHS citations are a review into how well the program is run and whether or not they can achieve the outcomes that are part of their program plan. Pathway to Recovery has had citations regarding their main medical site. Developing a social service program is entirely different in scope. I would like the city council to review whether they have the capacity to develop and operate a completely different kind of program prior to approval. Good intentions and vision must be accompanied by strong local administration and commitment to meeting 100% of required regulations on a daily basis. Secondly, that >> Thank you. >> Can I finish? >> Rob, please go ahead. >> Um what I want I'll just try to do some quick things that there are already um two other programs within a stones throw of this site. One has a board and lodge license that which is what the um organization wants to get. The other both are residential care. And I'll I'll do my final statement. I appreciate you letting me do this. >> Finally, the planning and discussions by interested parties appears to have been completed in a vacuum without community awareness or support. A level of transparency and sharing vision and methods would have been an appropriate step in the planning process. >> And >> thank you, ma'am. Thank you. I appreciate it. Thank you. >> I may I just have one thing? >> No, you're out of time. May I? Thank you very much for telling us. >> Thank you. >> All right. Uh, anyone else who would like to speak on this item? >> Please welcome. State your name. >> Just may I really? >> Yes. Go ahead. >> Uh, I'll just note for everyone and yourself, ma'am. Um, since you didn't finish your remark, you could take the written remarks. The clerks will take them, put them in the public record, and every member of the council will be able to view that. >> Thank you ever so much. >> Yes. >> Hi, my name is Tamar Herman. I I live within 350 ft of the facility. Um I want to echo some of uh Janine Marshasan's comments in that I urge the counselor in particular to review very closely whether the um estate credentialed care facility um is able to um uh sufficiently meet the the the care and the safety of the residents that are in it. including will it have 24-hour uh qualified personnel on site take, you know, taking care of both the people in the facility and whether the facility itself is meeting state requirements. There are no uh building issues or mold issues. It's it's a building that has been around for some time. Um and that is all. Thank you. >> Thank you so much. Anyone else? Hi. Uh, my name is Megan Navaro. I work at City of Lakes Waldorf School, which is just on the other side of Blazedale. Um, I work in administration over there, and I am in charge of our safety committee over at the school. Um, I really don't feel like I had enough time to prepare a lot of information that I'd like to share about this because we were notified and then the hearing was so close. So, I just would like to make note of that. Um, we've had a lot going on in the neighborhood recently and we have concerns as a school who are foundational mothers of this school, which is a Waldorf school, believe in being intricate members of the community, especially underserved communities and chose the placement of this school back in the early 80s or in the late 80s so that we could be a part of a community and share what we bring as a Waldorf school to the residents within that area. We don't operate in a vacuum and want to bring in the community. However, we have big concerns about another facility coming into the area while we are also trying to manage a lot of the violence that is happening in the area and uh it is impacting businesses. Blazedale Manor who I know that Janet uh sorry who runs Blazedale Manor was not able to be here today. they might have to make other alternative decisions because we are not getting the business in the area that we used to. So the concerns that we have are who is running this program exactly is someone going to be on site 24/7. We have other areas or other apartments in the area where the um people managing the properties are out of state and that is very concerning to us that we're not going to have somebody on site to manage this. Our kids are in the playyard. We have 30 sex offenders within that zip code currently and we have big strong concerns about if our students will be safe. Will this facility be monitored appropriately? And so more questions around this. My request is that we pause this. >> Thank you. >> A little bit further so that some of these questions can be answered prior to making this decision. Thank you for your time. >> Thank you. Anyone else would like to make comments? Please uh state your name and >> um my name is Mary Ali. I am >> got close to the microphone there. Yep. >> Hi, I'm May. My name is Mary Ali. I am the HR director of pathway to recovery and uh we our program has just to kind of address um the madam's issue. Um we've been running a program for a year and a half right now. So it's a three program. It's a detox withdrawal management and methodone clinic and IOP. That's not it's usually it's a standalone programs in other places but we have those three programs in the south Minneapolis as combination of continuous care. Um we do have other houses in Minneapolis and they um they're they're GRH housing called Bright Side. Um it's public information. We've um um GR has come to us, the county has come to us multiple times and uh we have not failed one inspection. Um so we on our um it's supervised 24 hours. We have cameras and we have actual staff. And the lady that was saying that the citation of DHS, you guys can look it up. every um DHS program gets cited and our citation was nothing of um of harming any human being or any malpractice or any of that. It was just prop quality documentations and usually that's just a preference of when a um when DHS comes in of how they want their documentation. It was not had nothing to do with um um a malpractice or grievances or somebody's life at risk. Um we had 15 graduates from our program successfully um that went into actually um Summit Academy and became HVAC and went to Summit Academy for electrician and they went into for um carpentry and have successfully graduated. So we're not just a treatment center but we help people with um rehabilitation. So, we've been doing pretty fairly well and the houses that we have, there have not been any complaints, no police calls for those houses. And we have staff that are trained for deescalation. This is not just um we are other houses for men in recovery, but this is parent in recovery. They're able to have their children while they're doing their recovery and they'll be having daycare services, too. >> Thank >> Thank you. >> Thank you so much. Uh clerk, if you can please sign her on the record. Um, that'll be Is there anyone else who would like to speak? >> Good afternoon. My name is Eric Larson and I am a homeowner in the neighborhood and in fact my property actually on Pillsbury Avenue um is directly across the alley from the 222 Blazedale Avenue. So I have I have direct um experience with what has gone on there in the past and seeing what has gone on there in the past. So my concern is more for the neighborhood, the proximity um to the other number of group homes and residential homes in the neighborhood. There are two more properties on Pillsbury Avenue. There are a number of more properties on the other side, the east side of of Nicollet. Um and also the proximity to the Waldorf school. Um it's my understanding it's about 200 about 200 f feet from 222 Blazedale to the property of the Waldorf school. Um my concern is if that is in violation of the 350 ft zoning um restrictions. Um my also concern is just in regards to the neighborhood as a whole. The neighborhood this year um has seen a lot as we've all known. It's been kind of the epicenter for um what has happened with the DHS um and ICE um invasion in Minneapolis. Um with um Alex Freddy being murdered just three to four blocks away from this area. The neighborhood has seen a lot. It's trying to recover, it's been very very difficult. and at this moment, as much as I agree with with what um they are planning to do with this home and and and how they want to operate it, I think just the proximity to all the other places in the neighborhood at this time is not right. I would like to see it just pause for the moment so we can see just exactly how the neighborhood recovers and if um the things that we are concerned about are met by by the pathways um people. Thank you. >> Thank you so much. Are there anyone else who would like to speak? Seeing none, I'll close the public hearing and um I see here uh a couple council members sign up, but I am first. So, I do like to make a comment and um hopefully make a motion at the end of my comments is to um pathway recovery or Dr. The Dicks project started few years ago in Minneapolis. Uh especially in um Franklin area. It has been a really a great thing that happened to the neighborhood. Uh it's a it's a place where folks that are um dealing with a lot of substance abuse and and and addiction go to treatment. Um mainly it's uh minority folks uh Native American, East African uh young men or women who are dealing with it. And it's it's um I had the opportunity to tour and to look at the place and um it's just amazing thing they do. They don't just you know release the person treat them but they kept they keep it and they give them all the necessary uh um opportunity for them to succeed in life if that is a job creation as schooling career training and also uh housing to kind of make sure that graduation is is happening. and uh I have seen um many of the young people that I uh continue meeting my word um you know being successful and actually working there right now. So I want to thank special thanks to city staff who has been there from the get-go uh years ago from uh when this um uh recovery um center popped up in in in W six. I know this is not related to uh war six area but I just wanted to talk a little bit about that and also um I think that uh what the neighbors raised is uh you know it's very important for us to note to make sure that there's a plan as some one of the representative person from recovery pathway recovery mentioned that there is a plan uh in place for um uh for uh for safety to make sure that um the protocols are being followed vote. Um, you know, I don't I don't see a lot of concern um why we should deny this interm use permit. Uh, this is a service that our residents and neighbors uh your neighbors and in city of Minneapolis need that services and it's hard to come by a place with all all in hands, you know, all services, not just uh housing, but also places that you can get specialized doctors and professionals to help you through your recovery. So, I will approve this um item. Um I'll move this item for approval and I'll ask a second. >> Second. >> Um with that, I will recognize uh Council Member Schaefer. [clears throat] >> Thank you, Chair Osman. Um yes, I had an opportunity to tour Pathway to Recovery probably about a month and a half a half ago and uh was very um encouraged by what I saw there. Um, I do have one request to CPAD CPAD staff before Thursday. Um, I do know that this is not the only facility that I know is in the pipeline um because of some of my other uh my issues in my ward. So I would just like to understand what the number is either on a map or a total number of facilities in this area or adjacent um services um both in Steven Square and upper Whittier. Um if you have that data now that would be great. If you don't I'm happy to have you reach out offline before Thursday. >> Uh council member Schaefer Chair Osman Kimberly Holene I'm the manager of the land use design and preservation team. I awkwardly have it on my laptop which you can't see. Um so we have different requirements for different sizes of what we call state credentialed care facilities. Six or fewer does not have a spacing requirement. Um the size that's proposed before you today does have a spacing requirement. Um so this map which if I put it up here would that show it? >> We'll try. It'll be all >> in there. >> Yeah. Without breaking anything, [laughter] >> whichever kind of hook. Maybe HDMI. >> I play around with it. And then I'm [panting] [snorts] >> Take your time. There we go. >> Oh my god, that's [laughter] awesome. >> Yay. Look at that. >> Huge thank you to the clerk. Um, so what's in front of you here is a spacing map. So the what you're seeing as the yellow circles, the black dots in the middle are state credentialed care facilities that are subject to a spacing requirement and then the buffer around them is the required spacing. You will note there are some here that don't meet spacing from each other, but those are pre-existing to our spacing requirement. Um 2222 Blazedale just went off the map when I touched it, but um it does meet spacing. And this isn't a again a comprehensive list because those with six or fewer persons are not subject to a spacing requirement, so they're not on the map. Thank you. I really appreciate that. Um but if you could follow up with um is this include county um facilities in this space as well as city? So what we consider a state credentialed care facility is something that has a specific license type from DHS that qualifies it as such. Um oftentimes those also have a city board and lodge license. So this would be a comprehensive list of things that are existing in the city or have approvals but haven't yet been established. >> Okay. Um, I will follow up with you. I I would like more of a comprehensive list um of everything um in in this particular area. Okay. >> And I could if you want all the categories, I can send those to you after the meeting. >> That'd be great. Thank you. >> Okay. Thank you. >> All right. >> I will unplug if that's all right. Okay. >> Uh Council Member uh Chuktai. >> Thank you. U Thank you, Mr. Chair, Mr. Vice President. I am wondering if um staff can speak to um just the the extensive process that you go through uh in considering an interim use permit before it is brought forward before the body for approval. And um I don't know if Lindsay can come back and >> Yeah. Thank you, Chair Osman. Council member Chuck Tai. Um, so when we're considering any sort of conditional use, conditional uses are things that are allowed in the zoning code as long as they meet certain conditions and those conditions are laid out by state law. Um, and the and basically the bullet points here just ask or they just highlight what those conditions are and then staff analyzes each point. So the you know some of these questions are more about is this use appropriate for the district and so we are not diving into questions of like who is the operator like um it's more about the use itself right so we're analyzing the use itself when we're analyzing these findings and so for this first one you know will this use be detrimental to or endanger the public health safety comfort or general welfare there. Well, you know, right now it's a 12-unit apartment building. It's going to be it might actually have fewer residents in it in the future as a state credential care facility than it might as an apartment building. Um, so is that going to be, you know, and it's going to stay a residential use? Uh, the applicant is going to have to comply with, you know, any lensure uh uh requirements from the state and from um the city as well. And then the applicant did share that it will be staffed 247. And so, uh, staff was able to make that finding that this is not going to have a detrimental impact on surrounding uses. Um, second finding is that the the use will not be injurious to the use and enjoyment of property in the vicinity, nor will it impede the development of surrounding property. Staff found that, you know, having a residential use that's serving people. um it's, you know, a place for them to live as they're getting off-site treatment would not be uh unduly harmful to the surrounding area, nor would it impede development. Um number three has to do with utilities, access roads, those sorts of facilities. It's an existing apartment building. Staff was able to make that finding. Um and same goes for number four is talking about the interface with the um the traffic or with the transportation system. Um, this site is very well served by transit, very well served by bike infrastructure. Um, and it also has a lot of parking on site and they also have like a shuttle service for folks who don't have cars. And so given all those things, we were able to find that it is in compliance with the standards laid out by the zoning code. I know there are other considerations and I think that some of the public comments touch on, you know, some additional considerations that are maybe outside of the scope of what the zoning code is looking at in this case. But in terms of the findings to be meant to um to say that this this conditional use will not itself bring harms to the neighborhood, staff was able to make those findings. >> That's so helpful. Thank you very much. Um, I think it's also just uh really helpful that um we know for for a fact in in as part of this process that uh there will be staff available 24/7 on site. Um, I I hear that as a as a concern and I think it's something um that that hopefully is um is relieve a a a site of relief for neighbors that may be concerned about um this uh this use. Um for folks uh who are raising some questions about the review of the entity itself um the applicant um is it is is it fair to say that's uh that's more of something that falls within DHS's jurisdiction and and what they do or um is it unusual for us at the city to to not do do that type of in-depth analysis of potential people that are seeking permits? I mean, I know what my experience looks like from from previous types of contracts and and permit approvals, but it might just be helpful for you to shed some light. >> Okay. Uh, thanks, Council Member Osman. Uh, Council Member Chungtai. Um, typically with a land use application, we are not looking at like the merits of who is applying for the application and instead we're looking at the use and the applicant the the onus is on the applicant to provide us information about what the use will be and how it will function in the context. Um and with conditional use permits or interimm use permits as you will the um you know that that decisionmaking kind of pyramid that we think about like how much latitude do do decision-m bodies have over a conditional use permit. Typically, it's that um you know, we're looking at the use itself, kind of detach from from the applicant and how the use is functioning. And then we're also thinking about it as you know, the conditional use um should typically be approved unless there are clear documented harms that cannot be mitigated by the use of conditions. And now this is not a conditional use permit. It's an interim use permit. So there is an additional tool on the table regarding the duration of the use, right? And so that could potentially be another avenue that decision makers could use to have an another checkpoint with the applicant after some duration of time to see if there have been any concerns that have arisen. But when it comes to, you know, um the license itself, all of that enforcement would come through DHS and um city uh health department through the board and lodge license. So if there were violations there, um that would come through that way. I mean another thing to consider is there is a condition that staff has propo uh proposed to put on the land use application regarding the number of residents and so that is something that could be enforced from a zoning perspective as well. >> Thank you very much. Um I really appreciate the additional context. Uh thank you uh Mr. Mr. Vice President. I'm excited to support this item today. >> Thank you Vice Chair Chowry. >> Thank you. I'm in queue for Council Member Warren. I did put myself in there for a second time, but it looks like that's gone for when I would like to speak. So, just noting that. But go ahead, Council Member Warren. >> Thank you so much. Um, Vice Chair, I appreciate you. Um, so I some questions for staff and then I also have questions for um our HR representative who's here for the company as well. So is this a a two does this organization hold a 245D lensure or no? So you said it's an intram permit. So the de um sorry uh chair Osman, council member Warren, the the definition in the zoning code of a state credential care facility has to do with a facility that's licensed by DHS and there's a whole menu of different lensure types that fall under that and that the duration of stay is more than six months. Um, so that's kind of the crux of the definition of a state credential care facility. Um, I I I'm not entirely sure what what exact license type this applicant has off the top of my head. So that might be a better question for them. >> So the interim period would be for how long? >> The um the maximum that an interim use permit can be uh authorized is 5 years and they proposed an expiration date of April 1st, 2031, which is a little less than 5 years from today. Okay. Um, that is what I needed to know from you and sister. I don't Yes, please. I don't >> Miam. Okay. >> And so, Miriam, you stated that the individual residents that will also be staying at this um facility will have their children with them, right? um or be working on some type of family reunification as part of their chemical dependency treatment program. >> Correct. >> That is admirable and we need a lot more of that as it pertains to that. So I am looking at the fact that child protection services will be involved in a great deal with this organization and with the the families that are staying there. Correct. >> Absolutely. And so they will also have to comply with safety plans that are put into place with child protection services and our Henipin County court systems and DHS as well. >> Absolutely. When they're young toddlers. Yes. >> Okay. So with with children period, right? Especially as we're working on reunification and those things. There'll be regular visits from individuals like guardian at lightams and child protection workers that will be coming in to see about the safety, welfare, and the environment of the children as well as the residents who are staying there and ensuring that they're following plans. Right. >> Absolutely. And we would have to be submitting UAS weekly. >> That is correct. >> Everything. Yeah. >> Okay. And um and most people who are in those type of programs and I know because I am Henipin County foster and have worked with um Henipin County um with family reunification and and 72-hour holds and all of those things. People who are in those are on what's called a color wheel, right? So the UAS are random. So, it's not like they can just say, "Hey, you know, I got to be clean by Thursday cuz Thursday could be Monday, could be Saturday by 6:00, could be this time. You never know exactly when they're going to come, pop up, show up, and what have you." And those are things that are done at random, which will mean that the environment will have to be extremely safe and secure, otherwise it could cause for immediate discharge from that type of program. >> Correct. and and and there might be their kids can be taken away taken away. >> And not only just color random, we do observation too. So it's random and then there's uh if it's a female, female will go into the bathroom with them or if it's a male to just do observation so the urine um the sample is not tampered with. >> Okay. So in this facility for families who are working on reunification um with their children in this is there um supervised visitation spacing for individuals who have to have supervised visitation and that also is happening there too. >> Yes, correct. >> Okay. So that is very important I think for the public to know and and understand where we're talking about and I heard a lot of concerned residents and educators and things like that who are raising concern which I would raise concern with a situation like this at well but when we're talking about family reunification when we're talking about care over criminalization right when we're talking about families being brought back together and not holding someone's past against them but really trying to work on strength strengthening the family dynamics. These are important things to highlight with respect to the work that is um that is being done with these individual community members and reassuring that safety in this situation definitely is going to be a very high priority where it would be extremely different if we were looking at a place for single males or single females. Right? So that would kind of look a little bit different where these individuals are walking a far more strenuent path, you know, in their sobriety because they're taking into consideration their children. They're taking in into consideration the reunification and merging back into community. So the fact that they are near a school opens up opportunity for them to be able to live, work and educate, right, in a in a very closed environment, right? And being in that environment around other um other communities and and cultural dynamics of of people that keep them centered in the community that I'm sure that a lot of them may come from, right, to to really um work on their wellness. Um I think that's that's admirable. So, I I'll be supporting this, but I just wanted to highlight those things because as I was listening, I didn't hear a lot of emphasis placed on that. >> And just to answer the question that you had for the young lady, um, it is a 245G license. >> Oh, it's a G, not a D. >> Not a D. It's a 245G substance abuse. Yes. And we have a 245F license on the other side, which is a withdrawal management. >> Wonderful. Okay. [clears throat] Perfect. Good to know. Thank you. >> All right. I'll recognize council member Schaefer. >> Yes. I just had a couple other questions for followup with CPED. Can you just speak to the five-year length in my learning process here? Is five years for an interim um typical or is that unusual? And then what are the reasons for the length of time? >> Yeah, Chair Osman, Council Member Schaefer. Um the interim use permit is divi defined in the zoning code as having the maximum of of five years of duration. It is pretty common that people will apply for the maximum duration just so they don't have to keep coming back to city council, you know, year after year. Um certainly there are other times when the council might apply a shorter duration or the applicant may know that there are development plans for the site and they only need the use for um 3 years or something before another development happens. Uh, I will say that the applicant has expressed some interest in potentially pursuing a reszoning application to allow for a greater number of residents on the site. Whether that um happens or not, I I don't know at this point, but if there are changes to the interim use, they can also apply for just a permanent conditional use permit at that time. So whenever the interim use permit expires, they would either have to apply for a conditional use permit um or they would have to uh revert to a use that's permitted in the district because intermuse is the idea behind an intermuse permit is that it allows something that maybe we don't want to have on um a permanent basis or basically gives kind of this window for someone to do something on an interimm basis before applying for a um a conditional use permit which then stays with the property in perpetuity. >> Okay. Thank you. That's really helpful. And then my other question would be if you could follow up is just what is the number roughly of affordable housing units that we've lost to some of these transitionings to um these facilities in the last, you know, five to eight years, something like that, if that is readily available. >> Um Chair Osman, Council Member Schaefer, I do not have that information readily available. We do have CPAD director here. I don't know if he has any addition. I just I think about it because we've got a couple colleges right there in the area and and so I just it's comes to mind. >> Chair Osman, Council Member Schaer, Eric Canson, the CPAD director. We'll have to look into that. It'll be challenging for us to get data on uh the tradeoff between what was there before and what are in these facilities now. But I'll ask the housing team if we can do something. We'll >> get you something back, but um I'm not confident it'll be a specific number of units. >> Okay. Thank you. I appreciate that. >> I'll recognize Vice Chair Chowry. >> Yes. Thank you so much, Chair Osman. Um my first question, this may uh be for the applicant, Mariam. Um do you have what is your plan to just have contact with the neighborhood if there are any issues? Anything like who will they reach out to? Who's the connection point? Like kind of the public facing person. Uh at the lobby, we're going to have them house managers information and email so they can come through the lobby and able to because we it's going to be 24-hour supervised living. So there's going to be house staff walking around, but the manager's information will be at the lobby and they can actually ask the house staff to if they want information, they can contact them then they will direct them to the house manager. >> Great. And that was going to be my second question. You're envisioning office space right in the front when you walk into the door, right? Yeah. >> 24/7. >> 24/7. Yeah. >> And then I know that there can be staffing challenges um sometimes in different state credentialed care facilities. Um how do you foresee addressing that? What if there's a situation in which there might be a gap in um someone's staffing for 247? >> So what we do is we hire casual. We have PRNs. So we have our main key staff and then we have PR rents. So just anybody that is on it's they'll we have staff that's on call. So, if somebody doesn't show up or quits, we have other people that are already been trained that can pick up those shifts. >> And then how many other um uh straight state credential the care facilities um does Pathway to Recovery have and operate? >> Um we have the 245G and 245F and then we have the GR. So, it's three different licenses. >> Licenses. Are there any other um uh facilities >> in the city of Minneapolis? No, just that one facility at Pathway to Recovery. Okay. >> And then the GRH housings are um located in South Minneapolis and yeah, that's all we have. >> And would you be open to just a condition that requires you all to have visible contact information at the front of the building so people could reach out? >> Absolutely. >> Okay. I think that would be good. I think uh the biggest thing here in a neighborhood, especially when um there are concerns around public safety, is communication, right? We in in the 12th ward there's a state credentialed care facility in a residential neighborhood and every year um that facility will do like kind of a ice cream social be really visible and have a connection and especially with the work of the Waldorf school I feel like it's really important that you both form a connection a touch point and I think that could really help address issues as they come forward um even when it's just a homeowner to homeowner you need to have connections on the block to address it. Um I think given uh how how important it is for us to have this continuum of care to address substance use disorder, um this is one of the tools that we have and um it's my understanding that uh this is this is providing people housing in a time where they really need it and it's providing wraparound services. um how do individuals become eligible for this type of program and how do they is there a cost to it for them? >> Um the we do have we have an intake process and they have to be suffering from opio use disorder and for them to be eligible in the housing they have to be homeless >> and then is there a cost to them? Do they need to have insurance? Do they pay anything? >> Um if they don't have insurance we have menure navigators at Pathway to Recovery. So, they do apply for insurance for them. >> Okay. And is there usually out-of-pocket costs that they're experiencing? >> Um, most of the people that we serve do not pay out of pocket costs. They're mostly lowincome. >> Thank you. >> Families. >> Thank you so much. That's all my questions for you. >> Um, and I'll just note that's a type of affordable housing, right? We're providing shelter for individuals that need it. Wraparound services. This helps people come to stability, as Council Member Warren, I think, really aptly put. um this is necessary tool that we see for family reunification. We're also talking about kids here. So, I think it's valuable to have these types of resources in our community and if they're run well and if there's communication between neighbors, we can mitigate it. Um I think I'll remind everyone that's listening in the public, it's an interim use permit, so there's opportunity for check-in. And then 311 is your friend, your council member is your friend. great person for you to check in with and talk to if there are issues and we can resolve them. Um, but I just given all the facts and the good discussion we've had here today, I'm I am looking forward to supporting this. >> Council member Travis. >> Uh, thank you, Chair Osman. I just have a quick question for staff. Is this similar to the recuperative care stuff that was coming before the council last term or is it a little bit differently? Okay, >> Chair Osman, Council Member Chavez, the recuperative care applications that were brought through last year were technically emergency shelters and the way that the zoning code divides those is duration of stay. So emergency shelter is 6 months or less and state credential care facility is 6 months or more. And so um and and that use type was kind of interesting. It was it was trying to rehabilitate people who had had medical events in uh and then trying to connect them to resources so they wouldn't have to go back on the street after they were recovered. Um so it is different but obviously there are some similarities and they're both types of um you know supportive uh recovery type housing just with different um clientele and different durations of stay and models. >> Thank you. I appreciate it. Well, I'll be supporting this item. I think it makes sense. Now I read off some of the points that staff talked about. Uh that the applicant has proposed to establish a state rental care facility serving up to 16 persons through an interim use permit. I think this next part is the one that really matters to me particularly that the client population would consist of parents experiencing homelessness who are in recovery for substance abuse disorders or mental illness along with their minor children. This is a tool we have to address unsheltered homelessness. I was obviously very disappointed that Mayor Fry vetoed care overcriminalization, but we have to continue to push for a comprehensive approach to addressing addiction, mental health, drug use in our city. And I hope that moving forward there isn't push back on this work that needs to happen because we can't be against uh decriminalizing paraphernalia and also be against these sites. So, I just wanted to at least say that out loud. >> Right. Uh, Council Member Warren, >> thank you. Um, chair. So, I I have a a one other quick question. This probably will be for for staff um and um for Miam also as well. So, the intram use permit is for a period up to 5 years just shy of that time. if there's any um change or model to that program or extensions, how soon would council know if there is like written for an extension or looking for an application of permanency or something like that? How how soon will we know something like that? >> Uh council member Osman, chair or sorry, chair or Osman, council member Warren. Um the the in an interim use cannot be continued past the five years. So, their options at that 5-year mark would be to apply for a conditional use permit to legalize the use on a long-term basis or if there were any changes like if they were hoping to, you know, fundamentally change the program that would affect their approvals, then they would come back for any modifications to the intermuse permit. But typically what happens is is whenever that expires, if it's close to the 5-year mark, then applicants are making plans for how to, you know, make that permanent in some way. um a conditional use permit application would go before the planning commission and so um that would be the step if they were moving in that direction. Um if the applicant were to pursue a reasonzoning which is something that was expressed that would obviously come before this body as a legislative decision. >> And if there is a modification notice that is given how much time needs to be given in modification notice? Um, Council Member Warren, the uh, if there were if if there were changes large enough changes to the proposal that would require a new interimm use permit to come back before council, the notice timeline for an intermuse permit, I believe, is only um 10 to 15 day 10 days. Okay, so it is shorter than the notice period for our other land use applications. Um, one of the one of the uses of a tool like an intermuse permit is kind of getting before council on a more accelerated schedule. [snorts] >> Okay, that makes a lot of sense. So, if partway through the program they're saying, you know what, we set this situation up because we wanted to really provide this very intentional and deliberate service to the community, right? But we're not getting the beds filled because it's not enough of those individuals who qualify for the service, which I don't think I think we need more services like this. It's I don't think that's going to be an issue. But if we just got to say if, right? Um if they um didn't, then they would have to 10 days to notify you all and then get on the calendar to come before council in order to change that in permitted use. Right. And they wouldn't be able to operate until the use permit was changed or approved or verified or something like that. Uh, Chair Osman, Council Member Warren, the the intermuse permit before you is for a sequential care facility serving up to 16 persons. So, if they weren't serving the full number, they would not need any modifications to the intermuse permit. Um things that might result in needing an update would be if you know the provider changed um and it was a whole new provider or the the model completely changed or if instead of a sacred dental care facility they wanted it to become an emergency shelter kind of larger structural changes would come back to this um committee. >> Yeah. But the nature of what um is being offered on the forefront here even though you say 16% for changes is that accurate >> uh up to 16 people up up to 16 people. So even though you know that is a very small number because of the nature foundationally of the services that they're providing they have to be very careful about who all else is in that environment as it stands because there are children involved right so familiar status makes it the model have to pretty much stay pretty stationary as we're talking about reunification safety plans and whatever whatever else the case is. So, we wouldn't see any like huge, you know, some big mag, you know, magnified change where all of a sudden they're housing families and registered sex offenders at the same time or something like that. I know that was a concern of some people who were here in the audience. I'm just trying to help build that picture that it is what it is and it's a lot more protected in normalizing what needs to happen for the sake of the children being involved in this. Uh, Chair Osman, Council Member Warren, I think, you know, some of some minor changes to clientele could potentially exist under the approval for the intermuse permit. If there were spec specific items that the council wanted to see, like this only continues to serve parents, that could potentially be added as a condition of approval. >> Okay. Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Um, okay, >> Miam. She kind of cooked. I don't really got now I don't I don't [laughter] we we kind of we kind of resolved what I wanted to to get out there with um with respect to making sure that the families and the stability like there's certain ramifications that have to be in place because the children are involved in that that won't allow for like so much switch up is what yeah >> all right >> that's it thank you so much I see no one else uh on that motion to approve this item. All those in favor say I. >> I. >> And those opposed say nay. The eyes have it and the motion carries. Uh next public hearing is for 2026 housing uh hut action plan. I will have Matt Bower from CBET for brief presentation. Welcome sir. Uh, good afternoon, Chair Osman. Uh, committee members. My name is Matt Bower. I'm a manager of resource coordination with the finance and property services department and I am here today to introduce the subject matter of the 2026 HUD consolidated action plan. It's required public hearing and to request a set of approvals for submitting the plan to the US Department of Housing and Urban Development later this month. The RCA before the committee um requests that uh comments be uh received on the action plan um authorizing the action plan submittal to HUD. Um, HUD requires a uh kind of legislative delegation of or authority uh for the mayor or their design to make these application the make the application do the certifications and execute and carry out the programming of the uh action plan and as well as we'll be asking for um uh the authority to enter into the necessary grant agreements. So, what is a 2026 action plan? Uh, it is the city's a federal application to the US Department of Housing and Urban Development for its entitlement grant awards for 2026. It updates and restates the goals and priorities that were set in the five-year HUD consolidated plan strategy. It shows how uh budgeted entitlement funds for 2026 will support those goals and strategies. It also contains a set of certifications and representations uh for accessing the funds. And finally, it con it includes a public input summary. So, the public hearings that the um city council held on this the 2026 budget in the fall and today's hearing um will all be included in the action plan uh to go to HUD for these funds. HUD outlines a set of objectives and outcomes. Those are um living environments, housing and economic opportunities, whether they are available um in the community, accessible um the affordability of programmings and then the sustainability and and that's sustain sustainability in terms of like um uh long-term longevity of these programs, these services being ava made available in the community to support those outcomes. and objectives. The city has set um in the consolidated plan five goals. We seek with these funds to provide affordable housing, develop housing and services for the homelessness populations, provide special needs housing, expand economic opportunities, and improve neighborhood conditions. In responding, uh uh the action plan details the budgets, programs, and projects that support these goals based on the award amounts that uh were recently provided to the city by HUD. Um we went through um council last cycle um to formalize these final award numbers. You'll see them there for each of the four entitlement grants. Again, you consider the budget uh with an estimated award amount in the in December with your city of city uh with the city budget. And then once we get the actual numbers from HUD, we revisit those numbers um to make the adjustments to match the actual award amounts. Our budget year for the HUD program funds runs June through May. So on these next two slides, um the action plan budgets for the programs and projects uh need to fit within a set of rules and authorities u set by the federal government uh specific to each of these grants. And these slides kind of are a very high level summary of how the funds are used and um some of the um constraints or or or opportunities with the funds. CDBG is primarily housing community development. Most of the budget 50 50 to 60% of our CDBG budget is devoted to housing programs. Uh we have an amount set aside for administration of these programs um doing all the compliance work the the financial accounting for these funds. And then we set aside um um up to 15% of the budget for public services. So those are community based programs um job training um youth and youth development programming and such. home we use for um new construction or rehabilitation of lowincome rental and ownership housing. With our emergency solutions grant ESG, uh we use it for shelter rehabs, emergency shelter rehabs, renovations, operations of emergency shelters, provision of essential services to those suffering from homelessness. We also provide to the county um homelessness prevention and rapid rehousing funds. Those are delivered uh primarily for rapid rehousing programming. And we set aside a small portion of the budget for um uh HMIS services from the um from a state provider uh for um reporting on outcomes to HUD on these funds. We also work with the local continuum of care to set um how we use these funds. Um we work with the uh Henipin County um CPED staff work with Henipin County staff at um kind of best how to de deploy these funds into the community. And finally we have the HOPA grant housing opportunities for persons with AIDS. This is a grant we administer on behalf of the Twin Cities metropolitan area. Uh it's for the benefit of HIV impacted households. Uh funding priorities under the the um under the grant are made in cons consultation with the Minnesota HIV housing coalition. And currently we the work we support um is for rental assistance, sitebased operating operating costs and supportive services for these populations. will be back or I will be back before this committee in August um to present a public report on how these funds are used. Um this is a consolidated annual performance and evaluation report. Uh it will outline how we spent the funds through the 2025 grant which ends on the end of this month. Um and we also have a comment period for that and we have a public hearing for that before we submit that report to HUD. And so the public hearing today on the 2026 action plan is a HUD requirement prior to submitting our plan to HUD for their approval. Uh we made the drafted plan available for 30-day public comment uh that runs through May 26th. The plan was made available at the city's website, all Minneapolis public libraries and offices of Mid Minnesota legal aid. All comments received during the comment period and prior city budget public hearings will be summarized and presented to HUD in the submitted plan. That concludes my presentation. I can stand for any questions prior to the opening of the hearing. And I thank you. >> Thank you so much for that presentation. I will open the public hearing and uh I have uh Phoebe here on to speak. Please come and state your name. And >> thank you so much. And hello honorable city council members. My name is Phoebe Trep and I'm here as the executive director of Clare Housing. Clare Housing has provided housing with intensive supportive services to people leaving homelessness who are living with HIV for nearly 40 years. Uh, one of the sources of funding to pay for this housing with services is HAPWA, housing opportunities for people with HIV or AIDS, which was established in 1990 to address the AIDS crisis and has had bipartisan support since its inception. HOAPWA formula funds are sent based on the number of people living with HIV and as you just heard, they come through the city of Minneapolis for this metro area. I'm here to share how HAPA impacts the people in our community and especially those who are without housing and are experiencing co-occurring disabilities and then to quickly highlight current threats to Hapwa. Uh, one of the nearly 500 people we served in 2025 is Joe. He came to us in August of last year with a history of homelessness. He was using meth, was showing cognitive delays, and not taking HIV medications. By December, through the support of 247 staff, stable affordable housing, and daily meds, Joe had stabilized, stopped using meth, began seeing a therapist, and reached an undetectable viral load. Uh, which means HIV is now so low in his body, it can't be transmitted to others. So, a form of prevention as well. Overall, around 65% of people living with HIV in the United States are have reached an undetectable viral load uh which prevents new cases. At CLA, we routinely reach 90% of undetectability. Um, I'm going to keep moving fast. In terms of threats, the current presidential administration zeros out the HAPA program. Up to this point, Congress has continued to fund HAPA, and we are increasing advocacy to continue to focus on that. In Minnesota, we're experiencing the loss of Medicaid services that have historically supported these clients, uh, which makes HPA even more crucial to providing housing. We're just in support of this consolidated plan and wanted to tell you more about how Hapwa impacts you all and all of us. Thank you. >> Thank you so much. Are there anyone else who would like to speak? See none closed public hearing. I see a few members here that might have a question. Um for me, uh this is really great. Uh thank you staff for putting this together. Uh some of these programs were applying as we have a new administration. Are they requiring participants or recipients, people that are receiving the services for immigration status? Do you are you aware of that? Um uh Chair Osman, um the um there are some notices going out. Um there has been some efforts. Um I don't know exactly how where it is in litigation and such. Um there have been um we added conditions to um the grant agreements we signed last year. Um in terms of um uh some of the issues that we had a disagreement with the administration on. Uh those are tied up in litigation so far. Um >> okay. We have not been asked to um act in contrary to our our our beliefs and our stance. >> I understand. Uh just uh during the you know um ice being here there was one of my residents came to me with a letter. she lives in MPHA building and they were like come to the office to update your um immigration status and that was something um MPHA is requiring because of hot are are asking. So that was just just just wanted to get a little bit more information. It's like you know what is the protocol? Are they for you [clears throat] to qualify this we need to know um your participant or recipient uh their immigration status and that's one of the housing agencies collecting that information. And it's uh it's it was kind of something new to me. But >> I I will not speak for the public housing authority. However, um there is a requirement that um benefits go to um resident legal residents of the of of the country. Um and that can be done on a prrated basis. So, if you've got a household member that is here legally, the rent for that unit is prrated is the assistance is prrated to account for that. And so, that may be some of the background in that question. >> I got it. Thank you, sir. Um, I'll recognize vice chair. >> Yeah, thank you so much. Um, Chair Osman, um, maybe this perhaps might be a question for you. perhaps for the city attorney um as well. I'm wondering do we have any uh grant agreements before us that we are pending pending this action before we enter into right now. >> Madam uh Mr. Chair and committee members I'm not aware of of any I don't have the background on [clears throat] that information but I could certainly look into it. Yeah, I would love a followup on that of like what grant agreements are pending and >> I I can answer that to a certain extent. Yes. So, we will be providing this application to HUD at the end of the month. >> Then they will review the review it'll approve it >> and then after that point we'll receive the grant agreements. Okay. >> And then at that point we will examine those grant agreements for language we may or may not. Um and then we do this is this a annual um agre is this something that we have to do annually the consolidated action plan or [snorts] >> correct yes. >> Okay great. So um this can be an administrative followup as well. I would love to get the grant agreements that we entered into um in 2025 and just be able to take some time to read through them before our vote um this Thursday. better ground us and the the conversation that we're having with the um federal government right now. >> Great. I'm getting some head nods. Um yeah, those are all of the questions that I have. Thank you. >> All right. I'll recognize Council Member Warren. >> Thank you. Um Chair and Vice Chair Chry, you all up in my brain today. Um because that was my question. And I wanted to know what previous year grants um looked like, what they were administered for, and how those funds had been um previously intentionally used on what projects and directions. and if there were any specifics or if there were any alterations that we wanted to make and amend um the application that is going before um HUD for the 2026 consolidation plan when would those things need to be submitted? >> Um Chair Osman and Council Member Warren. So the the the plan that's drafted right now is based on the city council's budget that was approved for these funds. Mhm. >> Um the um the plan is updated annually. Um right now um currently departments are thinking about 2027 in preparation for the 27 budget and how these funds could be deployed and used. And that'll come up in in the recommended budget before the council that's presented um later this year. And that would be an opportunity to um uh uh visit visit that. In terms of how the funds have been used, uh we we can get you past grant agreements, but in terms of how the funds are used, um I would point you to um our website. Um we have the most recent performance report for last year on there. Again, we'll be coming to you um later this summer with a performance report on the most recent year of use. Um, and we outline exactly how those dollars are are used in the community and deployed and and kind of what what the outcomes and benefits of those funds have been. >> Okay. Yep. That's what I wanted to know. And you said this information is on the actual site. >> Yes. Um, what's the address? I don't I mean it's the under the finance department um controllers division controllers group you'll see grants and special projects and there'll be a consolidated plan >> and then how do individuals submit for um special project funding through this um through this HUD consolidated plan. Um, Cherrick Osman, Council Member Warren, and and committee members, um, a lot of these funds are run through, um, other city ex application processes and such. Um, Eric, um, I mean, CPED, um, runs the affordable housing trust fund. That is a big piece and you'll see those those recommendations come before you later on. Um there's other um kind of open solicitation processes that are run by departments that are administering these funds. Um we don't have a general like specific CDBG or um uh any of these particular grants like a specific application for them outside of kind of the individual programs that are being funded with these opportunities. um having their own individual um solicitation rounds and such. >> So is there um some form of a checklist that says these projects have to meet these type of requirements in order to be considered for this type of funding or whatever the case is. That's what I'm trying to ask. Is there something? >> Uh um yes, correct. there. I mean, there's there's um it's specific to each one um each solicitation, but each solicitation would have like in the in the case of the affordable housing trust fund, it um these funds have to serve um households below 50% of median income. So projects that are awarded points for how many of the units they are proposing may meet that requirement and and it's evaluated among other criteria but that's one of them. um for the HOPA program um there's a um a a list of eligible uses for these funds and when we do solicitations for these funds we check like do they do they address um these eligible uses and do they are they um proposing projects that are consistent with those uses and that also achieve um addressing some of the needs that are expressed through the plan in terms of a specific population our sub population. >> Wonderful. Thank you. >> All right. Thank you so much for your all your answers and presentation. Uh I see no further action and I will move this item for approval. All those in favor say I. [clears throat] >> I. >> And those opposed say nay. The eyes have it. And the motion carries. All right. Uh that's it. See no no further business before us. With no objection, I'll declare this meeting. Thank you. out there.