[0:08] >> GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS LATONYA REEVES, AND I'M THE CHAIR OF THE COMMUNITY COMMISSION ON POLICE OVERSIGHT. [0:14] BEFORE WE BEGIN, I WANT TO OFFER A FRIENDLY REMINDER TO ALL MEMBERS, STAFF, AND THE PUBLIC THAT THESE MEETINGS ARE [0:20] BROADCAST LIVE TO ENABLE GREATER PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. THESE BROADCASTS INCLUDE REALTIME CAPTIONING AS A FURTHER [0:26] METHOD TO INCREASE THE ACCESSIBILITY OF OUR PROCEEDINGS TO THE COMMUNITY. THEREFORE ALL SPEAKERS NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF THE RATE OF THEIR [0:31] SPEECH SO THAT OUR CAPTIONERS CAN FULLY CAPTURE AND TRANSCRIBE ALL COMMENTS FOR THE BROADCAST. [0:38] WE ASK ALL SPEAKERS TO MODERATE THE SPEED AND CLARITY OF THEIR COMMENTS. ADDITIONALLY, BEFORE WE PROCEED [0:44] WITH OUR ROLL CALL, I NOTE THAT WE HAVE A NEW COMMISSIONER WITH US TODAY, JUNE ELIZABETH PALMER [0:49] WHICH IS WARD 6. IF MY COLLEAGUES WOULD INDULGE ME, WE'LL DO A QUICK ROUND OF [0:55] INTRODUCTIONS AS A WELCOME. WE CAN START ON THIS END AND [1:00] COME AROUND. >> HELLO, I'M LEWIS SMITH, ONE OF THE MAYOR'S APPOINTEES. [1:06] >> I AM LEAH ENDERLY, WARD 12. [1:13] >> ERIC BARTZ, WARD 11. >> JAMES CANADAY, WARD TEN. >> HI AND WELCOME. [1:21] BRIDGET STEWART WARD 8. >> PAUL OLSEN VICE CHAIR, WARD [1:28] 3. >> LATONYA REEVES, MAYOR APPOINTEE. >> JUNE ELIZABETH PALMER, WARD [1:33] 6, HAPPY TO BE HERE. >> MELISSA NEWMAN, WARD 4. WELCOME. [1:40] . >> MARA SCHANFIELD, WARD 2. CHAIR OF THE POLICY REVIEW [1:46] COMMITTEE. WELCOME. >> MIKE McELHINNEY. [1:54] >> AT THIS TIME I'LL CALL TO ORDER THIS REGULAR MEETING FOR MONDAY, JULY 14TH. AND ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE [2:00] ROLL TO VERIFY A PRESENCE OF A QUORUM. >> COMMISSIONER McELHINNEY. [2:08] >> PRESENT. >> COMMISSIONER SCHANFIELD. >> PRESENT. >> GURIAN-SHERMAN IS ABSENT. [2:15] COMMISSIONER BAKER IS ABSENT. COMMISSIONER STEWART. >> PRESENT. >> COMMISSIONER GURIAN-SHERMAN [2:20] IS ABSENT. COMMISSIONER CANADAY. >> PRESENT. >> COMMISSIONER BERTZ. [2:30] >> PRESENT. >> VICE CHAIR OLSON. [2:35] >> PRESENT. >> CHAIR REEVES. >> PRESENT. >> THERE ARE 11 MEMBERS PRESENT. >> THANK YOU. LET THE RECORD REFLECT WE HAVE A [2:41] QUORUM. COMMISSIONERS, THE AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING'S MEETING IS BEFORE US. I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE AN [2:48] AMENDMENT TO MOVE THE PROPOSED STRATEGIC PLAN TO AFTER THE REPORTS SO THAT THE PUBLIC WHO ARE HERE TO MAKE A COMMENT AND [2:54] HEAR THE REPORTS ARE FREE TO LEAVE EARLIER IF THEY SO CHOOSE. CAN I GET A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> ALL RIGHT, A SECOND. [3:01] ANY DISCUSSION? CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER McELHINNEY. [3:11] YES OR NO? >> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER SCHANFIELD. >> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER NEWMAN. [3:16] >> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER PALMER. [3:22] >> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER STEWART. >> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER CANADAY. [3:27] >> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER BURTZ. [3:32] >> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS-JOHNSON [3:37] IS ABSENT. VICE CHAIR OLSON. >> AYE. >> AND CHAIR REEVES. >> YES. >> THERE ARE 11 AYES. [3:45] >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER AMENDMENTS TO THE AGENDA FROM COMMISSIONERS? [3:51] ALL RIGHT, SEEING NONE, THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL ON THE AMENDED AGENDA, PLEASE. [4:01] THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER McELHINNEY? THIS IS THE ROLL CALL FOR THE [4:08] WHOLE AGENDA AMENDED. >> APPRECIATE IT. AYE. >> COMMISSIONER SCHANFIELD. >> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER NEWMAN. [4:14] >> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER PALMER. >> AYE. [4:20] >> COMMISSIONER STEWART. >> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER CANADAY. >> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER BARTZ. >> AYE. [4:26] >> COMMISSIONER ENDERLY. >> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS-JOHNSON ABSENT, SORRY. [4:31] COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> AYE. >> VICE CHAIR OLSEN. >> AYE. >> AND CHAIR REEVES. >> YES. [4:36] >> ALL RIGHT, THERE ARE 11 AYES. THANK YOU THE AMENDED AGENDA HAS [4:42] BEEN PASSED. NEXT UP WE'LL HAVE ONE SET OF MINUTES TO ACCEPT FROM OUR JUNE [4:47] MEETING. MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE JUNE MINUTES? [4:53] >> SO MOVED. >> IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> IT'S BEEN MOTIONED AND [4:58] SECONDED. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? CLERK, IF YOU CAN CALL THE ROLL FOR THE MINUTES. >> COMMISSIONER McELHINNEY. [5:04] >> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER SCHANFIELD. >> I'LL ABSTAIN, I WAS NOT HERE. >> ABSTAIN. COMMISSIONER NEWMAN. [5:09] >> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER PALMER. >> AYE. [5:16] >> COMMISSIONER STEWART. >> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER CANADAY. >> AYE. [5:22] >> COMMISSIONER BARTZ. >> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER ENDERLY. >> AYE. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> AYE. [5:28] >> VICE CHAIR OLSEN. >> AYE. >> AND CHAIR REEVES. >> YES. >> ALL RIGHT. THERE ARE TEN AYES AND ONE [5:35] ABSTENTION. >> THANK YOU. THE AYES HAVE IT AND THE MINUTES HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED. NEXT IN THE ORDER IS PUBLIC [5:41] COMMENTS. WE'LL OPEN THE FLOOR TO ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC GIVING EACH SPEAKER TWO MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION. [5:47] WE'LL BE TAKING SPEAKERS IN THE ORDER THAT THEY'VE REGISTERED. IF YOU WISH TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION TONIGHT AND HAVEN'T [5:52] ALREADY DONE SO, YOU MAY REGISTER WITH THE CLERK AT THE SIDE OF THE DAIS. IF ANY SPEAKER HAS PRINTED [5:58] MATERIALS, PLEASE GIVE THOSE TO THE CITY CLERK. WE ALSO INVITE FOLKS TO SUBMIT WRITTEN COMMENTS USING THE FORMS [6:03] AVAILABLE FROM THE CITY CLERK TO BE INCLUDED IN THE PUBLIC RECORD AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO SPEAKING IN [6:09] TONIGHT'S COMMENT SECTION. EACH SPEAKER WILL BE GIVEN TWO MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION TONIGHT. WE HAVE A TIMER TO ASSIST SPEAKERS IN MONITORING THEIR USE [6:15] OF TIME. WITH THAT, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. OUR FIRST SPEAKER TONIGHT IS [6:23] BERLIN -- I'M SORRY. >> BERLIN SMALI. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR REEVES. [6:29] I'M BERLIN SHMALI, I LIVE IN THE 12th WARD. >> SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE, [6:34] PLEASE. [6:44] >> THE POLICE OVERSIGHT'S ROLE IS TO ENSURE MPD IS PROVIDING [6:51] NONDISCRIMINATORY POLICE SERVICES. THE SCOPE INCLUDES ACTIONS POLICE OFFICERS TAKE IN OUR CITY [6:57] INCLUDING EQUITY ALSO ADDRESSES ACTIONS THAT OFFICERS DO NOT TAKE. MPD DATA SHOWS THAT THERE WERE [7:04] 2,912 911 CALLS MADE FROM THE 12th WARD IN A FIVE MONTH PERIOD [7:09] FROM OCTOBER 1, 2024, TO MARCH 2, 2025. THE DATA ALSO SHOWS THAT ONLY [7:15] 535 OF THOSE CALLS, JUST 19.8% [7:22] RESPONDED BY AN OFFICER IN THE 12th WARD AT THE TIME OF THE [7:27] CALL. THE REASON THERE IS NOT ENOUGH OFFICERS IS THERE ARE ONLY NINE OFFICERS ON A SHIFT TO COVER THE ENTIRE PRECINCT. [7:33] ONE TWO-PERSON SQUAD FOR EACH OF THE TWO SECTORS AND ONE LONE [7:38] PERSON SQUAD AS AN OVERLAY. THE RESOURCES IN THE 9th WARD LEAVE THE 12th WARD ABANDONED [7:44] 80% OF THE TIME. [7:50] THE PRECINCT COVERS APPROXIMATELY 130,000 PEOPLE. I'VE ASKED WHY 30% OF THE POPULATION IS ASSIGNED ONLY 27 [7:57] OFFICERS WHICH IS LESS THAN 5% OF THE MPD RESOURCES. MPD, THE MAYOR, AND MY CITY [8:07] COUNCIL LEADER HAVE NO ANSWER. THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES FOR THE LACK OF POLICING IN THE 3rd [8:13] PRECINCT. SO FAR IN 2025, THEY REPORT DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF BURGLARIES [8:20] COMPARED WITH ANY OTHER PRECINCT IN THE CITY. MY QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD HAS THE [8:26] HIGHEST INCIDENTS OF BURGLARIES OF ANY NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE CITY. [8:38] I BELIEVE CONSISTENT, BENEVOLENT POLICE PRESENCE IS THE BEST WAY TO AVOID CRIME FROM OCCURRING. [8:44] CONSISTENCY IN POLICING IS ALSO THE BEST WAY TO PREVENT INCIDENTS FROM ESCALATING TO THE USE OF FORCE. [8:50] I'M ASKING THE POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD TO EXPAND THEIR REVIEW. [8:56] REVIEW ALL OF WHAT POLICE DO AND WHAT THEY ARE NOT DOING. RESTORE BASIC POLICE SERVICES TO [9:01] THE 12th WARD. >> THANK YOU, SIR. >> 35,000 PEOPLE SHOULD NOT BE [9:08] WITHOUT A POLICE OFFICER 80% OF THE TIME. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU. [9:16] SEEING NO OTHER FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS, WE WILL COMPLETE ALL PUBLIC COMMENTS AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT [9:22] COMMISSIONER BAKER HAS ARRIVED. THANK YOU. WELCOME, COMMISSIONER. THE NEXT ITEM IS TO RECEIVE AND [9:28] FILE A SUMMARY OF THE COMMISSION'S -- EXCUSE ME. [9:34] ARE WE DOING THE STRATEGIC PLAN NEXT, JUST TO MAKE SURE ON THE AGENDA? [9:39] BECAUSE WE JUST SWITCHED THE ORDER AND THE STRATEGIC PLAN WOULD HAVE BEEN FIRST, CORRECT? [9:52] ONE MOMENT. >> CHAIR REEVES, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT YOU WERE [9:58] GOING TO COMPLETE ALL OF THE AGENDA AND DO THE STRATEGIC PLAN [10:05] AS THE FINAL ITEM. >> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE -- [10:15] >> CHAIR REEVES -- I HAD IT AS AFTER THE REPORT SECTION. ALSO ANYONE WHO WANTED TO LISTEN [10:21] TO THE REPORTS AND THEN THE STRATEGIC PLAN. >> GOTCHA. >> BUT ALSO FOR THE NEW [10:28] BUSINESS, IT WILL BE AFTER THAT. >> THANK YOU, I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT. THANK YOU. THE NEXT ITEM IS TO RECEIVE AND [10:34] FILE A SUMMARY OF THE COMMUNITY QUESTIONS RAISED AT THE JUNE MEETING. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE [10:40] COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER STEWART. >> I HAVE A QUESTION. IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE COULD GIVE THE GENTLEMAN THAT WAS JUST [10:46] SPEAKING ABOUT WARD 12, DO I NEED TO FILE A MOTION FOR HIM TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO SPEAK? [10:52] I BELIEVE WHAT HE WAS SAYING, HE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFICULT TIME AND I THINK THAT IT'S WORTH ALL OF US TAKING A MOMENT TO [11:00] HEAR WHAT HE HAS TO SAY CONSIDERING THAT PART OF OUR JOB IS TO LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY [11:05] AND HEAR WHAT THEIR CONCERNS ARE AS POLICE OVERSIGHT. >> I WOULD ALSO SECOND THAT AS [11:13] THE WARD 12 -- >> DO WE WANT TO JUST PAUSE TO SEE IF -- SO WE HAVE A MOTION [11:18] AND A SECOND TO ALLOW THE GENTLEMAN, IF HE WOULD LIKE TO, TO EXTEND HIS COMMENTS. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? [11:26] >> AS THE BOARD'S REPRESENTATIVE, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR WHAT HE FULLY HAS TO SAY. [11:32] >> IS THERE NO FURTHER DISCUSSION? WE WOULD LIKE TO DO THIS ON A VOTE OF YES OR NO TO MAKE THIS [11:38] EXPEDIENT. IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR OF THIS MOTION PLEASE SAY AYE. [CHORUS OF AYES] [11:44] >> ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? SIR, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE, WE'LL GIVE YOU SOME [11:50] MORE TIME. OKAY, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE -- [11:58] CAN I HAVE YOU JUST COME TO THE MICROPHONE SO PEOPLE AT HEME [12:03] CAN -- HOME CAN HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. >> THE PRIMARY DOCUMENTATION OF THE 911 CALLS. [12:09] THERE WAS A PACKET HANDED OUT. SO YOU HAVE THAT DATA. AGAIN, LOOK AT IT. IT'S REAL. [12:14] IT'S FROM THE MPD AND WE SHOULDN'T BE ABANDONED 80% OF THE TIME. [12:19] THANKS. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. >> THANK YOU. [12:24] >> ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT ITEM IS TO RECEIVE AND FILE A SUMMARY OF THE COMMUNITY QUESTIONS RAISED AT THE JUNE [12:31] MEETING. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE [12:37] COMMISSIONERS? >> QUICK QUESTION. >> YES? >> I'M WONDERING IF THERE MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE A FEW [12:42] OF THE ANSWERS WITH THE PUBLIC OR ARE WE EXPECTING THEM JUST TO GO ONTO LIMS AND FIND THE [12:48] ANSWERS. >> I DO NOT HAVE THAT DOCUMENT IN FRONT OF ME IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO SAY IT. [12:53] IF THE CLERK'S OFFICE WANTED TO SAY A COUPLE OF COMMENTS ABOUT THE FORM. >> IT SHOULD BE IN YOUR PACKET. >> OKAY. [13:01] DO WE HAVE COPIES ON THE TABLE? >> THERE IS THE PUBLIC COPY IN [13:06] THE BINDER. BUT EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE IT IN THEIR PACKET WHICH IS THE SAME THAT'S IN THE BINDER. [13:25] >> I'M HAPPY TO READ A COUPLE OR MAYBE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT FOLKS WHO LOOKED AT IT MIGHT HAVE A [13:31] SENSE. [13:42] >> IT'S THE ONE THAT STARTS WITH AN EMAIL FROM KELLY GUSLER. [14:04] >> OKAY. SO ON THE PACKET THAT WE [14:09] RECEIVED, THERE WAS A DISCUSSION AROUND THE SEATS. SEAT SIX AND SEAT NINE. AND THERE'S DISCUSSION ABOUT [14:16] THOSE SEATS. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WAS ASKED WAS WHO WAS THE APPOINTING AUTHORITY FOR CCPO, WHAT ARE THE [14:22] RULES AND RESPONSIBILITIES IN THE PROCESS OF THE CITY CLERK AND IF ANY OTHER DEPARTMENTS OR STAFF IF A NOMINATION IS [14:28] FORWARDED BY A COUNCIL MEMBER OR MAYOR, ACCOUNT CITY COUNCIL OR ANYONE ELSE OBSTRUCT THAT [14:34] PROCESS? THE ANSWER IS GENERALLY, THE APPOINTING AUTHORITIES FOR THE CITY'S APPOINTED BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS WHICH ARE REFERRED [14:40] TO AS ABC'S ARE THE CITY COUNCIL AND MAYOR ACTING TOGETHER AS THE [14:50] REFERRING BODY. IN THE FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS WHICH IS ONLINE, THUS UNLESS A SEPARATE LEGAL [14:56] PROVISION APPLIES, ALL APPOINTMENTS ARE MADE THROUGH THE COMBINED ACTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR, FOLLOWING [15:02] THE STANDARD LEGISLATIVE PROCESS AND ARE DEEMED TO BE OFFICIAL ACTS AS THAT TERM IS DEFINED IN THE CITY CHARTER. [15:07] THERE'S ALSO DISCUSSION ON THE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES THE [15:12] CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR. THEY DEFINE THE CITY COUNCIL AND MAYOR SEPARATELY, AND THEY HAVE [15:17] ADDITIONAL COMMENT FOR THE MAYOR, THE RESPONSIBILITY AS AN APPOINTING AUTHORITY AS WELL AS THE CITY CLERK. [15:24] AND THERE'S ALSO DISCUSSION AMONG DEPARTMENTS, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, WHO OBTAINS THE OFFICIAL ROSTER OF THE CITY'S [15:32] BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. NOMINATION AND APPOINTMENT, AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. A SUMMARY OF THE APPLICATION [15:41] PROCESS. THERE'S ALSO A DISCUSSION AROUND WHY WERE SOME COMMISSIONERS APPOINTED FOR ONLY A FEW WEEKS? [15:49] PURSUANT TO THE CHARTER ALL APPOINTMENTS TO THE CITY COUNCIL OR EXCUSE ME APPOINTMENTS TO THE [15:55] CITY'S APPOINTED BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ARE MADE TO DEFINED [16:01] TIME PERIODS TIED TO EACH SEAT ON THE BODY. TERMS ARE NOT TIED TO THE INDIVIDUAL'S SERVICE WHO MAY BE [16:07] APPOINTED TO A SEAT. THERE'S INFORMATION ON THAT IN THE HANDOUT. SO SOME MORE INFORMATION ONLINE [16:12] ABOUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. COMMISSIONER SCHANFIELD, DID YOU [16:17] WANT ANYTHING ELSE? >> SUPER, THANK YOU. >> APPRECIATE THAT. [16:22] WAS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? >> I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT SOMETHING. >> COMMISSIONER PALMER. [16:30] >> SO MY QUESTION IS FOR THE CITY CLERK. KIND OF A CLARIFYING QUESTION. [16:36] IN QUESTION 2C, 2C3, AND 2C4 OF THIS DOCUMENT, IT GOES OVER SOME [16:42] OF THE RESPONSIBILITIES AND DUTIES OF THE CITY CLERK'S [16:48] OFFICE IN APPOINTING NEW COMMISSIONERS. I WON'T READ THE WHOLE THING FOR THE SAKE OF TIME. [16:54] IT'S GOING OVER COMMUNICATING WITH APPLICANTS AND FACILITATING INTERNAL SCREENING AND VETTING PROCESSES AND SUPPORTING THE [17:00] CREATION AND SUBMITTAL OF NOMINATIONS FOR CONSIDERATION AND FULL ACTION BY DESIGNATING [17:05] APPOINTED AUTHORITIES. 2C3 SAYS COLLABORATING WITH APPOINTING AUTHORITIES, [17:12] DEPARTMENTS, ON PROMOTION CAMPAIGNS, AND PROCESSING APPOINTMENTS BOTH EXTERNAL AND [17:21] INTERNAL. AND NOTIFYING INDIVIDUALS OF THEIR SELECTED APPOINTMENT TO THE ABC'S. [17:26] MY QUESTION IS -- AND I'M JUST [17:31] WONDERING BECAUSE MY EXPERIENCE WAS I FEEL SOMEWHAT DRAWN OUT THAN I'VE SEEN OTHER [17:37] COMMISSIONERS. WHAT WAS, IF YOU'RE ABLE TO SHARE, WHAT WAS THE KIND OF EXTENT OF COLLABORATING WITH THE [17:43] APPOINTING AUTHORITIES? BOTH IN REGARDS TO MY APPLICATION BUT ALSO IN REGARDS [17:48] TO WARD 9 AS IT WAS ALSO ASKED [17:56] AT THE TIME. >> CHAIR REEVES, COMMISSIONER, [18:02] I'M NOT 100% POSITIVE ON WHAT YOU'RE ASKING. SO I DON'T WANT TO JUST POSIT A [18:09] RANDOM ANSWER. BECAUSE WHAT I CAN SAY GENERALLY IS WHAT THIS MEANS BY FACILITATE IS WE FACILITATE THE PROCESS, WE [18:19] DON'T GIVE ANY INPUT REALLY ON THE WHO THE CANDIDATE IS. [18:25] WHEN THAT INFORMATION IS READY, WE FACILITATE MOVING IT ALONG. WHEN IT'S NOT READY, THERE'S I [18:33] DON'T WANT TO SAY NOTHING FOR US TO DO, BUT WE HAVE ALMOST NO [18:39] INPUT ON THE ACTUAL SELECTION OF A PERSON. WE'RE FOSTERING THE PROCESS AT [18:49] EVERY SORT OF STEP ALONG THE WAY, GUIDED BY THE APPOINTING AUTHORITY WHO'S THE COUNCIL MEMBER AND THE CIVIL RIGHTS [18:55] DEPARTMENT WHO SORT OF MANAGES THE CONTENT OF THIS BODY AND IS [19:02] THE ASSIGNED DEPARTMENT THAT APPOINTS THIS BODY. WE SUPPORT THE PROCESS AND THE [19:08] PROCESS ONLY. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION, BUT THAT IS MY [19:14] GENERAL ANSWER. >> THAT DOES ANSWER IT, YES. >> OKAY, ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR [19:20] QUESTIONS? OKAY. I'LL DIRECT THE CLERK TO RECEIVE [19:26] AND FILE THAT REPORT. THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS REPORTS. [19:31] WE'LL BEGIN WITH THE REPORT FROM THE OFFICE OF POLICE CONDUCT REVIEW WHICH WILL BE PRESENTED BY DIRECTOR FUJISAWA. [19:37] WE'VE ALLOCATED TEN MINUTES FOR THIS REPORT. WELCOME, DIRECTOR. [19:55] >> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS RUSSELL FUJISAWA, I'M THE ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF POLICE CONDUCT REVIEW [20:01] UNDER CIVIL RIGHTS. JUST A SHORT AGENDA THIS EVENING [20:06] AND I'LL JUST TALK ABOUT THE BACKGROUND OF THE OFFICE GIVEN A [20:11] NEW COMMISSIONER AS WELL AS SOME OTHER RECENTLY JOINED MEMBERS. MY INITIAL REVIEW OF THE INTAKE [20:18] AND INVESTIGATION UNITS AS WELL AS THE REVIEW OF OUR PROGRESS ON REVIEW PANELS AS IT RELATES TO THIS BODY. [20:27] THE OFFICE 06 POLICE CONDUCT REVIEW IS A NEUTRAL AGENCY THAT INVESTIGATES ALL ALLEGATIONS OF [20:35] POLICE MISCONDUCT. OPCR IS A DIVISION OF THE MINNEAPOLIS DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN [20:40] RIGHTS. OPCR IS MANDATED TO REVIEW PUBLIC COMPLAINTS INVOLVING ALLEGED MISCONDUCT BY [20:45] MINNEAPOLIS POLICE OFFICERS. WE ARE COMMITTED TO ENSURING THAT COMMUNITY CONCERNS ARE TAKEN SERIOUSLY AND THAT ALL COMPLAINTS ARE INVESTIGATED [20:52] FAIRLY. OUR GOAL IS TO HELP BUILD A STRONGER, MORE ACCOUNTABLE SYSTEM THAT BOTH RESIDENTS AND [20:57] LAW ENFORCEMENT CAN TRUST. [21:02] TAKING A LOOK AT OUR INTAKE INVESTIGATIONS UNIT, YEAR TO [21:08] DATE, OUR OFFICE HAS RECEIVED 182 COMPLAINTS. AS YOU CAN SEE, THE MONTH TO [21:13] MONTH TRENDS SHOW A PRETTY STEADY INCREASE. AND THAT IS IN BOTH THE NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS AS WELL AS [21:19] INQUIRIES THAT OUR OFFICE IS FIELDING. JUST THIS PAST MONTH IN JUNE [21:24] ALONE, WE FIELDED 122 CONTACTS. I CAN SAY FROM JUNE OF 2024 [21:31] THROUGH DECEMBER OF 2024, OUR OFFICE HAD 472 CONTACTS. [21:37] JUST THIS YEAR SO FAR IN JANUARY THROUGH JUNE, SO ONE FEWER [21:42] MONTH. WE'VE HAD 492 CONTACTS. [21:48] SO OUR OFFICE IS BUSY AND THAT'S JUST ON THE FRONT END OF [21:55] COMPLAINTS. EITHER TRIAGING THOSE OUT TO OUR ADMINISTRATIONS TEAM OR [22:00] REFERRING OUT TO APPROPRIATE INVESTIGATIONS, VERIFYING THERE IS MISCONDUCT, FOLLOWING UP WITH [22:06] COMPLAINANTS TO GET MORE INFORMATION, THAT'S THE WORK OUR OFFICE IS DOING TO MAKE SURE WE'RE PROPERLY RECEIVING AND [22:12] INVESTIGATING THESE COMPLAINTS ON THE FRONT END SO THAT OUR TEAM ON THE INVESTIGATIONS TEAM CAN DO A THOROUGH JOB ON THE [22:17] BACK END WITH THE BODY OF THE INVESTIGATION. YOU WILL SEE THAT RIGHT NOW, THERE ARE 111 COMPLAINTS. [22:24] THIS WAS AS OF A WEEK AGO SO 7/7. THERE WERE 111 COMPLAINTS [22:30] SITTING IN THE INTAKE QUEUE. OF THOSE 111 COMPLAINTS, 69 WERE OVER 30 DAYS. [22:36] OVER 30 DAYS IN AGE. SO 29 OF THOSE WERE ASSIGNED AT THE TIME. [22:42] AND THIS IS DOWNWARD TREND. I'M NOT SURE IF YOU REMEMBER FROM OUR PREVIOUS REPORTS THE TOTAL NUMBER OF INTAKES HAS [22:50] HOVERED AROUND 80 TO 90 OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS. THIS IS MOVING DOWN AND THIS IS A TESTAMENT TO THE WORK THAT THE [22:56] INTAKE TEAM IS DOING IN TERMS OF MOVING THROUGH THESE COMPLAINTS THOROUGHLY, BUT EFFICIENTLY. [23:01] TRYING TO GET TO A PLACE WHERE WE CAN BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE [23:08] SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT AND THE CONSENT DECREE. YOU CAN SEE THAT CURRENTLY OUR INVESTIGATION DURATION ON THE [23:15] INTAKE SIDE IS APPROXIMATELY 22 [23:20] DAYS WHICH IS IN COMPLIANCE OF THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT OF 30 DAYS. THIS WILL CONTINUE. [23:26] THIS NUMBER IS TRENDING DOWNWARDS, WE HAVE INCREASINGLY COMPLEX CASES, BUT THIS NUMBER [23:31] CONTINUES TO MOVE DOWN. BUT IT IS UNDER A MOUNTAIN OF [23:37] COMPLAINTS. 111, 182 YEAR TO DATE. SO WE CONTINUE TO FIELD THESE AS QUICKLY AND EFFICIENTLY AS POSSIBLE. IT HELPS THAT WE'RE STAFFED UP, [23:43] BUT THE RATE OF COMPLAINTS THAT WE RECEIVE IS INCREASING. AND I THINK I MENTIONED THIS [23:49] LAST MONTH, WE HAVE NOTICED AN INCREASE AND ANECDOTALLY WE HAVE SEEN COMPLAINTS THAT ARE YEARS [23:55] OR EVEN A DECADE OR MORE OLD. I WOULD LIKE TO ATTRIBUTE THIS TO OUR INCREASING COMMUNITY [24:01] ENGAGEMENT EFFORTS, ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO FILE COMPLAINTS, [24:06] MAINTAINING THE WAYS THROUGH WHICH MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY CAN FILE COMPLAINTS, THE NUMBER OF REFERRALS THAT WE SEND OUT TO [24:13] OTHER INVESTIGATIVE AGENCIES, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE JURISDICTION, THAT NUMBER CONTINUES TO GROW. [24:19] AND I'D LIKE TO BELIEVE THAT IT'S BECAUSE WE ARE AN AGENCY THAT IS VERY PUBLIC AND WE ARE [24:25] ENCOURAGING INDIVIDUALS TO REPORT MISCONDUCT WHERE THEY SEE IT. IT IS OUR JOB AS THE OFFICE OF [24:31] POLICE CONDUCT REVIEW UNDER THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT, UNDER THE CONSENT DECREE TO GET THOSE [24:36] COMPLAINTS WITH THEY NEED TO BE, WHETHER THAT'S OUR OFFICE OR SOMEBODY ELSE'S. [24:42] LOOKING AT OUR ADMINISTRATIVE [24:47] INVESTIGATIONS WE CONTINUE TO WORK THROUGH THE BACKLOG. YOU CAN SEE THAT WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS. AS WE DID PREVIOUSLY, WE HAD ALL [24:55] CASES FROM THE BACKLOG ASSIGNED TO OUR ADMINISTRATIVE INVESTIGATIONS TEAM. THE NUMBER OF ASSIGNED CONTINUES [25:01] TO DECREASE INDICATING THAT WE ARE MOVING THROUGH THOSE INVESTIGATIONS, MOVING THOSE [25:06] INTO THE REVIEW PROCESS, WHETHER THAT IS INTERNALLY WITH OUR TEAM IN SUPERVISORY REVIEW OR ALONG [25:15] TO THE REVIEW PANEL WHICH THIS BODY SUPPORTS OR ALONG TO THE CHIEF'S OFFICE FOR THE CHIEF'S [25:21] REVIEW AND SUBSEQUENT DISCIPLINE. CONTINUE TO MAKE PROGRESS, CONTINUE TO HAVE THE OBJECTIVE TO COMPLETE THIS WORK AND THE [25:28] WORK ON THE BACKLOG INVESTIGATIONS. AGAIN THE OPCR INVESTIGATIVE WORK TO HAVE THAT COMPLETE BY [25:33] THE END OF AUGUST. WE ARE ON TRACK TO DO SO. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF INSTANCES [25:39] IN WHICH WE HAVE OFFICERS ON FAMILY LEAVE WHICH THE INVESTIGATIONS ARE MOVING [25:44] FORWARD. WE ARE PLANNING FOR THE RETURN AND TO SCHEDULE THEIR INTERVIEWS AND MAKE SURE THAT THOSE [25:50] INVESTIGATIONS CAN BE TIED UP STILL BY THE END OF THE MONTH AND NEXT MONTH. [25:57] MOVING ON TO THE NEXT BUCKET OF COMPLAINTS RECEIVED, WE CONTINUE [26:03] AS OUR INVESTIGATIONS ARE COMPLETED AND THE BACKLOG CONTINUE TO ASSIGN OUT OUR OLDER [26:09] NONCOMPLIANT CASES THAT ARE OLDER THAN 180 DAYS, WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK FROM THE BACK [26:15] FORWARDS AND TRY TO POSITION OURSELVES SO THAT WE CAN BE IN COMPLIANCE. I THINK THE ONE THING AND I DID [26:21] HIGHLIGHT THIS PREVIOUSLY, THE NUMBER OF INVESTIGATIONS THAT SITS WITH THE BACKLOG, I [26:26] BELIEVE, IS ABOUT 2 TO 3 TIMES LARGER THAN THE REST OF THE CURRENT CASES THAT WE HAVE. [26:32] SO FROM A CAPACITY STANDPOINT, FROM A TIME TO COMPLETION STANDPOINT, WE ARE MUCH BETTER [26:38] POSITIONED ONCE WE ARE THROUGH THE BACKLOG TO GET THROUGH THE REMAINING CASES AND TO GIVE OURSELVES A GOOD CHANCE OF [26:45] GETTING INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE TIMELINES WHILE CONTINUING TO PUT FORTH QUALITY, EFFICIENT [26:51] INVESTIGATIONS AND REPORTS TO THIS BODY AND TO THE CHIEF. AGAIN, IF YOU JUST NOTICE THE [26:58] NUMBERS, WE ARE OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE FEWER CASES ASSIGNED HERE BECAUSE THESE ARE THE MOST RECENT COMPLAINTS THAT WE'VE [27:04] RECEIVED. BUT AGAIN THE OVERALL NUMBER IS MUCH MORE MANAGEABLE IN SIZE [27:09] THAN THE BACKLOG THAT WE'VE WORKED THROUGH AT A PRETTY ASTOUNDING PACE OVER THE LAST NINE MONTHS. [27:18] IN TERMS OF CCPO TRAINING AND OUR SUPPORT OF THIS BODY, THE OFFICE OF POLICE CONDUCT REVIEW [27:24] HOSTED NACOLE HERE IN MINNEAPOLIS ON JUNE 16TH TO [27:30] PROVIDE A HYBRID IN PERSON AND VIRTUAL TRAINING TO A NUMBER OF THE COMMISSIONERS ON A NUMBER OF [27:38] TOPICS INCLUDING APPLYING LEGAL STANDARDS, REVIEWING INVESTIGATIONS, ANTI-RACISM AND [27:45] IMPLICIT BIAS TRAINING. WE HAVE ALSO STOOD UP OUR LIVE [27:50] SELF-PACED TRAINING MODULES THROUGH OUR CITY'S COMMENT SYSTEM. I THINK ALL MODULES ARE LIVE [27:56] WITH THE EXCEPTION OF OUR LABOR STANDARDS TRAINING WHICH IS UNDER REVIEW BY ONE OF OUR [28:01] CITY'S LEGAL TEAMS JUST TO ENSURE THAT THAT IS AN APPROPRIATE AND EFFECTIVE [28:07] DELIVERY OF THE INFORMATION. WE'RE VERY ENCOURAGED BY THAT, GIVEN WE HAVE NEW COMMISSIONERS [28:15] STARTING, IT GIVES FLEXIBILITY TO COMPLETE THOSE TRAININGS AS YOU ARE ABLE BECAUSE WE KNOW YOU ARE ALL BUSY. [28:24] DON'T QUOTE ME, BUT I THINK WE ARE ONE OF THE FIRST BOARDS OR COMMISSIONS TO USE THIS SYSTEM [28:29] FOR SELF-PACED TRAINING MODULES JUST TO GIVE THAT FLEXIBILITY. AND HONESTLY, IT LOOKS GREAT, [28:36] ESPECIALLY COMPARED TO OLD TRAINING TECHNIQUE OF USING OLD TRAINING VIDEOS, TRYING TO LOCK [28:42] DOWN A COUPLE OF HOURS DURING THE BUSINESS DAY THAT MATCHED UP WITH OUR STAFF. [28:47] SO I'M REALLY HAPPY ABOUT THIS AND I HOPE YOU ALL ARE AS WELL. [28:53] MOVING ON TO REVIEW PANEL UPDATES, THIS IS ANOTHER TREND THAT IS ENCOURAGING, IT'S NOT [28:59] SURPRISING JUST WITH THE NUMBER OF CASES THAT COME THROUGH IA AND OPCR. [29:04] BUT WE CONTINUE TO SEE A STEADY UPWARD TREND OF REVIEW PANEL [29:10] SESSIONS THAT ARE SCHEDULED AND COMPLETED OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR. WE APPRECIATE THE COMMITMENT AND [29:16] THE TIME THAT IT TAKES TO REVIEW THESE CASES. AS YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE MANY [29:22] CASES IN THE PIPELINE FROM IA AND OPCR. THAT WILL NOT CHANGE SO WE'RE [29:28] TRYING TO DO OUR BEST LOGISTICS [29:33] WISE TO SCHEDULE APPROPRIATELY AND THOROUGHLY TO GIVE COMMISSION MEMBERS ENOUGH TIME [29:39] TO REVIEW AND CONVENE. [29:48] >> THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? BECAUSE TIME HAS EXPIRED AND WE HAVE A QUESTION, IF WE COULD GET [29:54] A MOTION TO EXTEND TIME BY A CERTAIN NUMBER OF MINUTES TO ALLOW FOR A QUESTION. [30:00] >> I'LL PROPOSE IT. >> TIMEFRAME, PLEASE? >> TWO. >> TWO MINUTES. IS THERE A SECOND? [30:05] >> SECOND. >> FOR EXPEDIENCY PURPOSES, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. [30:11] [CHORUS OF AYES] >> ANY A POSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? -- OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? [30:18] >> I JUST HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. YOU MIGHT HAVE TO FOLLOW UP IN AN EMAIL. WHEN YOU WERE JUST SHOWING THE TWO SLIDES BACK, MAYBE IT'S [30:24] THREE. GO BACK, ONE MORE. ANOTHER ONE. NONE OF THESE. RIGHT HERE. WHERE YOU SEE JUNE OF 2024 AND [30:30] JUNE OF 2025, THE NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS IS 22 MORE COMPLAINTS IN JUNE OF 2025. [30:35] IS THIS A TREND BECAUSE OF I KNOW YOU MENTIONED COMMUNITY [30:41] ENGAGEMENT. OR IS THIS A TREND THAT WE'RE SEEING THAT REFORM ISN'T TAKING [30:47] PLACE? >> IT'S NOT CONCLUSIVE. AND I DON'T HAVE A GOOD ANSWER FOR THAT. [30:54] WHETHER IT'S THE MISCONDUCT IS OCCURRING AND PEOPLE ARE REPORTING IT, WHETHER PEOPLE FEEL EMPOWERED TO REPORT THE [31:01] MISCONDUCT THAT WAS OCCURRING, WE DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER OR ANY DATA TO BACK THAT UP. [31:07] >> AND THEN HOW MANY OF THE COMPLAINTS ARE YOU MENTIONED CURRENT COMPLAINTS VERSUS OLD [31:12] COMPLAINTS, IS THERE A BREAK DOWN OF NUMBERS OR DATA THAT [31:19] WOULD REFLECT WHAT HAS BEEN FOUND IN BOTH OF THE CONSENT DECREES? I KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT UNDER THE FEDERAL ONE ANYMORE, BUT WE ARE [31:25] STILL UNDER THE STATE. SO IS THERE A WAY FOR YOU TO GET US THE NUMBERS TO SHOW -- [31:31] >> WHEN THOSE COMPLAINTS ARE COMING FROM? ABSOLUTELY. SOME OF THAT IS EMBEDDED HERE [31:36] JUST IN THAT THIRD POINT OF WE HAVE 69 COMPLAINTS THAT ARE 30 DAYS OR OLDER. >> NO, MY QUESTION IS DOES IT [31:46] REFLECT WHAT WAS FOUND TO BE PRACTICES BY MPD AGAINST PEOPLE OF COLOR AND PEOPLE THAT HAVE [31:54] DISABILITY. CAN WE GET THAT DATA? >> IN TERMS OF THE NATURE OF THE COMPLAINT? >> YES. [31:59] >> SO I WILL SAY UNRELATED -- IN TERMS OF THE CASE SUMMARIES THAT [32:05] HAVE BEEN REQUESTED AND ARE PART OF THE ORDINANCE AND THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT, WE ARE [32:10] WORKING WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, WE HAVE CONSULTED WITH [32:18] ALEFA TO UNDERSTAND THE REQUIREMENTS THERE. AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF THE MINNESOTA [32:24] GOVERNMENT DATA PRACTICE ACT WHICH IS EXTREMELY RESTRICTIVE IN TERMS OF WHAT WE CAN PROVIDE. WE HAD CONVERSATIONS LAST WEEK [32:30] AND THIS WEEK, AND WE ARE WORKING TOWARDS INCLUDING CASE SUMMARIES WITH THE NATURE OF THE COMPLAINT AND THE DISPOSITION. [32:38] HOPEFULLY BY NEXT MONTH'S REPORT, AND THAT'S IN ADDITION TO THE CASE SYNOPSES THAT HAVE [32:48] PREVIOUSLY BEEN PUBLISHED AND WILL BE PUBLISHED AND ADOPTED LATER THIS EVENING. SO WE ARE TRYING TO BE [32:53] RESPONSIVE TO THAT REQUEST FROM THIS BODY, PREVIOUSLY FROM THE PUBLIC, AND ALSO IN THE [32:59] SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT AND THE ORDINANCE. >> GOTCHA. I'LL EMAIL YOU. >> THANK YOU. ALL THE TIME HAS EXPIRED ON THIS [33:06] TOPIC. IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, PLEASE EMAIL DIRECTOR FUJISAWA. ALL RIGHT. I'LL ASK THE CLERK TO RECEIVE [33:12] AND FILE THAT REPORT. NEXT UP IS THE MONTHLY REPORT FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S [33:17] INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION. I'LL INVITE MS. HASTINGS TO COME UP AND PRESENT AND I'VE [33:24] ALLOCATED 15 MINUTES FOR THIS REPORT. THANK YOU. [33:46] >> ALL RIGHT, GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS LILY HASTINGS. I'M A CASE MANAGER IN MPD'S INTERNAL AFFAIRS UNIT. [33:53] TONIGHT WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN WE USUALLY GO THROUGH, SO WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH SOME STAFFING UPDATES, [33:59] TRAINING UPDATES, WE'RE GOING TO HIGHLIGHT A WEBSITE THAT IS UP AND RUNNING. [34:04] AND THEN WE'LL GO THROUGH OUR USUAL BACKLOG UPDATES AND [34:10] STATISTICS AND TRENDS. SO FIRST THING I WANT TO GO THROUGH IS INTERNAL AFFAIRS HAS [34:19] SOME NEW TEAM ADDITIONS IN THE PAST MONTH. I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THESE ARE REPLACEMENTS, THEY ARE NOT NEW POSITIONS IN ADDITION TO WHAT WE [34:24] ALREADY HAD. SO AS YOU'LL NOTICE WE DID HAVE [34:30] SOME STAFFING TURNOVER FROM THE LAST MONTH. SO THIS MONTH WE WELCOMED COMMANDER PAUL ALBERS AS THE [34:37] INTERNAL AFFAIRS COMMANDER. LIEUTENANT WALTER ALVARADO AS THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS UNIT. [34:44] AND WE WELCOMED A NEW SERGEANT, SERGEANT HEIDI EISENBEIS AS AN [34:51] INVESTIGATOR FOR THIS MONTH. ADDITIONALLY, WE DO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT, LAST MONTH WHEN I SPOKE I BELIEVE I STATED THAT THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS UNIT WAS [34:57] FULLY STAFFED AT THE LAST MEETING. WE JUST WANTED TO ADD A CORRECTION THAT INTERNAL AFFAIRS [35:02] WAS NOT FULLY STAFFED AND IS STILL NOT FULLY STAFFED AT THE DATE OF MAKING THAT STATEMENT. WE DO HAVE A VACANT [35:10] ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT SPECIALIST POSITION. THE POSITION WAS POSTED AND HAS SINCE CLOSED AND WE'RE WORKING [35:15] ON SCHEDULING INTERVIEWS IN EARLY AUGUST. [35:21] AND THEN AGAIN AS STATED IN THE LAST MEETING, WE JUST WANT TO CONTINUE TO EXPRESS THAT WE DO [35:27] NEED ADDITIONAL STAFF MEMBERS TO SUPPORT ALL OF THE WORKLOAD THAT WE HAVE WITHIN OUR UNIT [35:33] CURRENTLY, AND WE DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH RESOURCES AS IT STANDS TO WITHSTAND THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT IS COMING INTO OUR UNIT EACH DAY. [35:40] SO WE ARE ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL SUPERVISORY RESOURCES AND ADDITIONAL RESOURCES FOR DATA ANALYST POSITIONS. [35:50] MOVING ON TO TRAINING, AS I'VE EXPLAINED THE PAST COUPLE [35:55] MONTHS, IA, OPCR, AND SOME CITY STAKEHOLDERS ARE WORKING ON A TRAINING PLAN FOR OUR DRAFTED [36:04] S.O.P. AND THE DRAFTED 2-100 WHICH IS THE OPCR AND CORRECTIVE ACTION POLICY. [36:09] THE TRAINING PLAN WILL STILL NEED TO GO THROUGH THE SAME LENGTH RAH PROCESS THAT THE S.O.P. AND THE 2-100 DRAFT WENT [36:16] THROUGH MEANING WE NEED TO DO WORKING SESSIONS WITH ALEFA, WITH MDHR, WITH OUR CITY [36:23] STAKEHOLDERS AS WELL. AND AT THIS POINT, THE PROJECT IS PENDING APPROPRIATE STAFFING [36:28] ALONG WITH THE COMPLETION APPROVAL OF THE S.O.P. AND THE [36:34] 2-100 DRAFT. AN UPDATE ON WHAT WE ARE CURRENTLY DOING FOR TRAINING. [36:39] LAST MONTH, I EXPLAINED THAT OUR INTERNAL AFFAIRS INVESTIGATORED ATTENDED THE FIRST DAY OF MPD'S [36:45] NEW USE OF FORCE TRAINING. OUR INTERNAL AFFAIRS INVESTIGATORS HAVE NOW SINCE COMPLETED THE SECOND DAY OF USE [36:52] OF FORCE TRAINING AND ARE SCHEDULED TO COMPLETE THEIR THIRD DAY BY THE END OF AUGUST. [37:00] PRIOR TO THE NEW USE OF FORCE COMING EFFECTIVE. I BELIEVE IT'S AUGUST 23RD OR IT'S THAT LAST WEEK. [37:07] ADDITIONALLY, ALL OF OUR AI CIVILIAN INVESTIGATORS COMPLETED SEVERAL ADDITIONAL TOPICS FOR [37:12] TRAINING INCLUDING EMERGENCY VEHICLE OPERATIONS SUCH AS PURSUIT DRIVING, TASERS, [37:18] ENGAGING WITH MINORS, AND BODY-WORN CAMERAS. OUR SWORN INVESTIGATORS HAVE ALREADY TAKEN THOSE MODULES. [37:24] SO WE WERE JUST GETTING OUR CIVILIAN INVESTIGATORS CAUGHT UP. MOVING ON TO A WEBSITE [37:31] HIGHLIGHT, WE DO WANT TO JUST HIGHLIGHT THAT THERE IS A CITY [37:37] WEBSITE TO COMPLIMENT A POLICE OFFICER THAT IS AVAILABLE. INTERNAL AFFAIRS RECEIVES THESE [37:43] COMPLIMENTS AND PER OUR NEW DRAFTED 2-100 POLICY, WE WILL BE SENDING THESE OUTWARDS TO THE OFFICER AND THEIR SUPERVISOR SO [37:49] THAT THEIR SUPERVISOR CAN REVIEW THOSE COMPLIMENTS WITH THEM AND [37:55] THEY CAN BE INCLUDED IN PERFORMANCE EVALUATIONS AND WITHIN THEIR HR PERSONNEL FILE JUST TO EVEN OUT NEGATIVE AND [38:02] POSITIVE REMARKS IN THAT FILE. MOVING ON TO OUR BACKLOG UPDATE, [38:09] YOU'LL SEE OUR NUMBERS HAVE DECREASED WITH ONE CAVEAT, WE [38:15] HAD ONE ADDITIONAL INCREASE OF A CASE AT THE END OF JUNE 30, 2025. THE REASON FOR THAT IS WE HAD A [38:22] CASE THAT WAS ORIGINALLY ROUTED FOR AN EXPEDITED DISPOSITION TO WHICH THE OFFICER DECLINED [38:27] MEANING THAT IT NEEDED TO GO BACK AND START THROUGH AN ADMIN [38:34] INVESTIGATION. A PERCENTAGE OF BACKLOG CLEARED AT THE END OF JUNE 2025, WE WERE [38:39] AT 45%. I'M HAPPY TO ANNOUNCE THAT TODAY WE ACTUALLY HIT 50%. [38:45] SO THINGS ARE STILL MOVING EVEN WITHIN A MATTER OF A COUPLE WEEKS SINCE TAKING THIS REPORT. [38:53] MOVING THROUGH STATISTICS AND [38:58] TRENDS, AS OF THE END OF JUNE, WE HAD 12 OPEN INTAKES. YOU'LL SEE OUR AVERAGE AGE [39:04] JUMPED. PREVIOUSLY, WE WERE STICKING AROUND THE 20 TO 27 RANGE FOR THE PAST FEW MONTHS. BUT UNFORTUNATELY DUE TO THE [39:10] STAFFING TURNOVERS, THAT RATE INCREASED. WE HOPE TO SEE THIS BACK DOWN UNDER 30 DAYS NEXT MONTH AT THE [39:18] REPORTING PERIOD. SO OUR AVERAGE AS OF THE END OF JUNE 2025 JUMPED UP TO 43 DAYS. [39:25] HOWEVER THE AVERAGE DURATION THAT IT TAKES FOR AN INTAKE INVESTIGATOR ONCE ASSIGNED TO [39:31] COMPLETED STILL REMAINED WITHIN THE 30 DAYS THAT WE HAVE ALLOTTED FOR INTAKE. [39:36] MOVING ON TO ADMIN INVESTIGATIONS, WE HAD 57 AT THE END OF JUNE 2025. [39:44] THE AVERAGE AGE WAS 225 DAYS. AGAIN LAST MONTH, THIS WAS DOWN [39:51] TO I BELIEVE 201 DAYS. SO AGAIN DUE TO THE STAFFING TURNOVER AND UNFORTUNATELY [39:56] HAVING CASES THAT WERE JUST ABOUT READY TO BE COMPLETED THAT NEEDED TO BE REASSIGNED, THIS IS [40:05] INCREASING AGAIN. WE DO ANTICIPATE THAT THIS WILL COME DOWN FOR THE NEXT REPORTING PERIOD NEXT MONTH. [40:11] OUT OF THOSE 57 CASES, SIX OF THEM ARE CONSIDERED PART OF THE HISTORICAL BACKLOG MEANING THEY [40:17] ARE 180 DAYS AS OF ALEFA'S START DATE. 17 ARE CONSIDERED NONCOMPLIANT [40:23] CASES MEANING AFTER ALEFA'S START DATE, THEY BECAME OVER 180 DAYS OLD. [40:28] AND 34 OF THOSE CASES ARE CONSIDERED CURRENT MEANING THEY'RE UNDER 180 DAYS. 51 OF THOSE 57 ARE CURRENTLY [40:36] ASSIGNED TO INVESTIGATORS AND SIX OF THE 57 ARE UNASSIGNED AND ARE WAITING TO BE ASSIGNED. [40:42] AS FOR EXPEDITED DISPOSITION CASES, AS OF THE END OF JUNE, WE [40:48] HAD 46 CASES. 13 OF THOSE 46 ARE CONSIDERED PART OF THE HISTORICAL BACKLOG. [40:54] 14 ARE CONSIDERED NONCOMPLIANT CASES AND 19 ARE CONSIDERED CURRENT CASES. AND THEN MOVING ON TO OUR [41:03] SUPERVISOR REVIEW, AGAIN THIS INCLUDES BOTH ADMINISTRATIVE INVESTIGATIONS AND EXPEDITED [41:08] DISPOSITIONS. AS OF THE END OF JUNE 2025, WE HAD 128 CASES THAT ARE WAITING [41:15] IN THE SUPERVISORY REVIEW QUEUE. 63 OF THOSE 128 ARE CONSIDERED PART OF THE HISTORICAL BACKLOG. [41:22] 53 ARE CONSIDERED NONCOMPLIANT CASES AND 12 CASES ARE CONSIDERED CURRENT. [41:28] MOVING ON TO CHIEF'S OFFICE STATISTICS. I BELIEVE THAT THIS HAS BEEN IN PREVIOUS REPORTS, BUT WE HAVEN'T [41:35] HAD IT IN OUR PRESENTATIONS PREVIOUSLY, SO WE NEEDED TO ADD THAT. SO AS OF THE END OF JUNE 2025, [41:43] THERE WERE SIX CASES THAT WERE SET AT LOUDERMILL HEARINGS, [41:49] WHICH IS STILL COUNTED UNDER THE CHIEF'S OFFICE STATUS. ADMINISTRATIVE INVESTIGATION CASES THAT ARE CURRENTLY WAITING [41:55] AT CHIEF'S OFFICE WAS 18 TOTAL CASES AS OF THE END OF JUNE. [42:01] REGARDING GRIEVANCE AND ARBITRATION, AS OF THE END OF JUNE, THERE WERE FOUR [42:08] DISCIPLINE-RELATED GRIEVANCES, AND THERE WERE THREE ARBITRATION. THAT JUST MEANS IT'S AN ESCALATED GRIEVANCE TO GET TO [42:14] THE STAGE OF AN ARBITRATION. I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT AS WELL, THE DISCIPLINE DASHBOARD [42:20] WAS RECENTLY UPDATED. JUST A REMINDER, THESE DISCIPLINE DECISIONS ARE ANY [42:26] DECISIONS THAT OCCURRED ON OR AFTER JUNE 8, 2020. SO THAT IS THE INFORMATION THAT [42:31] WILL APPEAR ON THIS DASHBOARD. AND HERE'S A LIST OF JUST RECENT CASES THAT WERE UPLOADED JUST [42:38] THIS LAST MONTH. MOVING ON TO OUR TRENDING DATA, YOU'LL SEE OUR INTAKE DATA OVER [42:45] HERE. LAST MONTH, WE HAD A VERY, VERY SMALL AMOUNT OF COMPLAINTS COMING IN. SO WE USED IT TO CATCH UP ON THE [42:52] INTAKE QUEUE THAT WE ALREADY HAD. SO YOU WILL SEE HERE THAT WE [42:58] ONLY HAD FIVE INCOMING COMPLAINTS INTO OUR UNIT LAST [43:04] MONTH. HOWEVER, WE WERE ABLE TO COMPLETE 23, MEANING THAT OUR QUEUE WAS THEN DOWN TO ABOUT 12. SO I ALSO ADDED THAT [43:12] INFORMATION, THAT NEW COLUMN YOU'LL SEE HERE, THAT CORRELATES WITH HOW MANY ARE IN THE INTAKE QUEUE, THAT STATISTIC THERE. [43:21] BUT THAT WAY WE CAN KEEP TRACK OF HOW MANY ARE STILL WAITING. OPEN INVESTIGATION CASES, THIS [43:26] IS THE SAME NUMBERS THAT WE WENT THROUGH EARLIER, BUT JUST SHOWN IN A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT GRAPHIC. SO AGAIN ADMIN INVESTIGATIONS, [43:34] 34 CURRENT, 17 ARE NONCOMPLIANT AND SIX ARE PART OF THE BACKLOG. [43:40] AND FOR OUR EXPEDITED DISPOSITIONS, 19 ARE CURRENT, 14 [43:46] ARE NONCOMPLIANT, AND 13 ARE A PART OF OUR HISTORICAL BACKLOG. [43:52] WE ALSO BROKE OUT OUR INTAKE DATA. SO ANY OF THE INTAKES THAT WERE IN PROGRESS AS OF JUNE 30, 2025. [43:58] YOU'LL SEE THE INCIDENT DATES HERE. AGAIN WE JUST WANT A REMINDER [44:04] THAT YOU MIGHT SEE AN INCIDENT DATE ALL THE WAY BACK TO SEPTEMBER 2023 IN HERE. [44:10] THE AVERAGE TIMES, LIKE WE HAVE THE 30 DAYS FOR INTAKE IS BASED OFF OF WHEN WE RECEIVE THE COMPLAINT, NOT ON THE INCIDENT [44:16] DATE. WE ALSO BROKE OUT OUR INTAKE [44:22] DATA BY PRECINCT FOR THE INCIDENT. SO BELOW YOU'LL SEE THE INTAKES [44:27] THAT ARE IN PROGRESS. THIS IS WHERE TYPICAL THE INCIDENT LOCATION IS RANGING. [44:37] FOR OUR COMPLETED INTAKE, SO THOSE 23 THAT WERE COMPLETED, THESE ARE THE DIFFERENT ROUTING [44:43] DECISIONS FOR THOSE COMPLETED INTAKES. SO WE HAD SEVEN THAT WENT TO AN [44:48] ADMIN INVESTIGATION. SEVEN THAT WENT TO EXPEDITED DISPOSITION. [44:53] WE HAD THREE THAT WERE REFERRED. FOUR THAT WERE DISMISSED AND TWO THAT WERE SENT FOR [44:59] NONDISCIPLINARY CORRECTIVE ACTION WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE CHIEF OR HIS DESIGNEE. [45:05] SO AGAIN, NONDISCIPLINARY CORRECTIVE ACTION IS THE COACHING OR TRAINING. [45:13] GETTING TO THE ADMIN INVESTIGATIONS, WE BREAK THOSE OUT AS WELL BY INCIDENT DATE. [45:20] WE ARE STARTING TO NOTICE THOSE 2020, 2021, AND 2022 COLUMNS SHORTEN VERY, VERY HEAVILY SO [45:26] WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO SEE THAT. AND I THINK THE LAST SLIDE HERE IS OUR OPEN INVESTIGATIONS, OPEN [45:33] ADMIN ONES AS OF THE END OF JUNE. BROKEN OUT SIMILAR TO INTAKES BY PRECINCT OF THE INCIDENT. [45:44] ALL RIGHT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY QUESTIONS FROM [45:51] COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER PALMER. >> SO I DID HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS [45:57] HERE, I'LL TRY TO KEEP THEM A BIT BRIEF. SOT FIRST ONE, YOU INCORRECTLY [46:02] STATED LAST MONTH THAT I WAS FULLY STAFFED AND YOU'VE ISSUED THAT CORRECTION. MY QUESTION IS HOW DID THAT [46:07] ERROR OCCUR AND WHY WAS IT INCLUDED IN AN OFFICIAL REPORT IF IT WAS FALSE INFORMATION? [46:14] >> THE ERROR OCCURRED SIMPLY JUST BECAUSE THAT IS -- IT WAS [46:19] JUST A MISSTEP OF MY INFORMATION. I JUST INCORRECTLY STATED, I AM [46:25] ONE OF THE SUPERVISORS OVER THAT POSITION AND I JUST INCORRECTLY STATED AT LAST MONTH'S MEETING. [46:32] WITHIN IT BEING IN A REPORT, IT WAS ACTUALLY PART OF A QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED. IT WASN'T INCLUDED WITHIN OUR [46:39] REPORT. >> AND THEN I HAD ANOTHER QUESTION HERE. THE COMPLIMENTING AN OFFICER, IT [46:52] SAID IN THE REPORT IT CAN EFFECT BEHAVIOR AND CULTURE CHANGE. MY QUESTION IS HOW EXACTLY CAN IT DO THAT? [46:57] HAS THIS BEEN DOCUMENTED AND HOW HAS PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT BEEN WITH THIS NEW FEATURE? [47:04] >> THIS HAS NOT BEEN DOCUMENTED THOROUGHLY ENOUGH YET TO SEE THAT ACTUAL CHANGE OCCURRING. [47:10] PART OF WHAT HAS HAPPENED WITH THIS COMPLIMENT BOARD, IT WAS ENACTED CLOSE TO 2022. [47:17] AND IT WAS NOT BEING MONITORED. SO THERE ARE OVER 250 PUBLIC [47:23] COMPLIMENTS IN THAT BOARD THAT WE ARE PENDING BEING ABLE TO SEND OUT TO OUR OFFICERS. AFTER SENDING THAT INFORMATION [47:29] OUT, WE DO PLAN TO MONITOR TO SEE HOW THAT MAY OR MAY NOT [47:34] IMPROVE OR CHANGE THE BEHAVIOR. >> AND THEN I HAD ONE LAST ONE. [47:43] SO THE REPORTS HAVE AN AVERAGE AGE OF 43 DAYS. ON AVERAGE IT TAKES 27 DAYS TO [47:51] COMPLETE. CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY THERE'S A 14 DAY DIFFERENCE? >> YEP, I CAN EXPLAIN THAT. SO THE AVERAGE DURATION THAT IT [47:58] TAKES TO COMPLETE, THAT'S SIMPLY FROM THE DATE THAT THE INTAKE INVESTIGATOR IS ACTUALLY [48:03] ASSIGNED TO THE DATE THAT THE INTAKE IS COMPLETED, MEANING THE FINAL DOCUMENT IS SIGNED. SO THERE IS A DISCREPANCY OF [48:11] SEVERAL DAYS IN THE ASSIGNMENT, SIMPLY BECAUSE WE HAD THE STAFFING TURNOVER AND WE WERE WAITING TO GET SOME PEOPLE UP ON [48:19] BOARD TO ASSIGN OUT. >> I INCIDENTALLY SAID I HAD ONE [48:26] LAST, BUT THIS IS MY LAST ONE HERE. IN THAT LAST ONE YOU SAID ABOUT THE INCIDENT DATES. THERE'S MULTIPLE MONTH-LONG GAPS [48:32] GOING BACK FROM SEPTEMBER 23 AND THEN A FEW OTHER ONES IN HERE OF JUST A FEW GAPS WHERE THERE ARE [48:38] NO INCIDENTS AND NO INTAKES RELATED TO THAT. IS THERE A REASON WHY THERE ARE [48:43] HUGE GAPS FROM SEPTEMBER 23 TO SEPTEMBER 24 AND THEN FROM SEPTEMBER OF 24 TO APRIL OF 25? [48:50] >> SO THE GAPS DON'T MEAN THAT THERE AREN'T ANY INCIDENTS THAT OCCURRED. THIS SPECIFIC DATA IS WHAT WE [48:55] HAVE IN OUR INTAKE QUEUE AT THE TIME. SO THIS IS ONLY REFERENCING THOSE 12 CASES THAT WE HAD IN THE INTAKE QUEUE AND WHERE THOSE [49:02] INCIDENT DATES WERE. NOT ONLY ARE OPCR AND IA IN A [49:08] BACKLOG, BUT THERE ARE OTHER UNITS THAT REFER THOSE COMPLAINTS TO US THAT ARE ALSO PART OF A BACKLOG, SO WE MAY [49:15] RECEIVE COMPLAINTS FROM 2023 FROM OTHER UNITS THAT ARE ALSO WORKING THROUGH THEIR BACKLOGS. [49:20] >> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> SO WE EXPIRED TIME. WAS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS? [49:26] >> YES, I DO HAVE A QUESTION. >> COMMISSIONER NEWMAN, BECAUSE TIME HAS EXPIRED WE WOULD LIKE A [49:32] MOTION TO EXTEND THE TIME. DID YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO EXTEND TIME TO ASK YOUR [49:37] QUESTION? >> SURE, JUST A MOTION TO EXTEND TIME FOR POSSIBLY A MINUTE TO TWO MINUTES? [49:43] >> TWO MINUTES. WE HAVE MULTIPLE QUESTIONS. SO WOULD YOU CONSIDER FIVE MINUTES? >> SURE. >> OKAY. IS THERE A SECOND TO EXTEND TIME [49:50] FOR FIVE MINUTES? >> SECOND. >> JUST FOR EXPEDIENCY PURPOSES, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE AYES. [49:58] >> [CHORUS OF AYES] >> ANY OPPOSED? [50:03] ANY ABSTENTIONS? OKAY, COMMISSIONER NEWMAN. >> A FEW TRAININGS AGO, WE REQUESTED TO BE A PART OF SOME MPD TRAINING SESSIONS THAT YOU [50:12] GUYS HAD WHERE THEY HAVE MACE AND TASER, BODY-WORN TRAININGS THAT MPD IS HOUSING. [50:18] I'M WONDERING IF THAT IS STILL SOMETHING THAT WE AS COMMISSIONERS ARE ABLE TO DO AND [50:24] WHEN IS THERE AN UPDATE TRAINING SESSION THAT WE CAN BE A PART OF? [50:29] BECAUSE THIS IS LIKE BACK IN I DON'T KNOW MAYBE OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR, I REMEMBER FROM A MEETING. IT WOULD BE NICE TO BE PRESENT [50:36] AT SOME OF THESE TRAINING SESSIONS THAT MPD IS HOUSING. >> OKAY, THANK YOU, [50:42] COMMISSIONER. INTERNAL AFFAIRS DOESN'T NECESSARILY COORDINATE THOSE [50:47] TRAININGS. THEY GET COORDINATED BY THE TRAINING UNIT IN MPD. HOWEVER, I CAN CERTAINLY PASS [50:53] ALONG THAT INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED AND THEN WORK WITH OPCR DIRECTOR RUSSELL [50:59] FUJISAWA ON ANY NECESSARY COORDINATION WE NEED BETWEEN THE UNITS. >> YEAH, AND ANOTHER ONE. [51:06] TALKING ABOUT ENGAGEMENT AND STUFF LIKE THAT, ANY OF THOSE [51:12] TRAININGS, NOT JUST MACE AND TASERS, THAT'S SOMETHING I'D TRULY BE INTERESTED IN, I'M SURE [51:18] OTHER COMMISSIONERS WOULD BE AS WELL. >> OUR INVESTIGATIVE AFFAIRS [51:24] OFFICERS TOOK MANY COURSES FOR THE CADET AND RECRUIT ACADEMY. I WILL SPEAK TO MY PERSONAL [51:29] EXPERIENCE, IT WAS A GREAT HELP TO ME AND IT WAS REALLY VALUABLE. >> SURE. THANK YOU, AND APPRECIATE IT IF YOU CAN. [51:34] >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. SEEING NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, I'LL DIRECT THE CLERK TO RECEIVE AND FILE THAT REPORT. [51:41] OUR NEXT ITEM IS THE LONG ONE, THE APPROVAL OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN PROPOSAL FROM COMMITTEES. [51:46] I WILL ASK COMMISSIONER SCHANFIELD TO START US OUT. THANK YOU. [51:53] >> THANK YOU, CHAIR REEVES. ARE YOU GUYS READY TO HAVE A GOOD TIME TONIGHT? [51:59] IS THAT NOT APPROPRIATE TO SAY? THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO REALLY PUT OUR HEADS TOGETHER [52:06] AND TO PUT ON PAPER WHAT WE'VE ALL BEEN WANTING AND TALKING ABOUT. [52:12] I'M DELIGHTED TO BE HERE TO SHARE SOME OF THE WORK THAT I DO OUTSIDE OF THIS INCLUDES [52:18] STRATEGIC PLANNING. SO IF I'M GOING TO FAST OR NOT MAKING SENSE, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO INTERRUPT. [52:24] WHAT I'VE LEARNED FROM MY DAY JOB IS THAT THE PLAN ITSELF IS NOT AS VALUABLE AS THE PROCESS [52:31] OF PLANNING. IN OTHER WORDS, THE PROCESS US [52:36] WORKING TOGETHER, MAKING SENSE OF THINGS, AND HAVING A SHARED VISION AND QUITE FRANKLY AN [52:41] ELEVATOR SPEECH THAT WHEN SOMEONE ASKS WHAT DO YOU GUYS DO ON THE COMMISSION THAT WE HAVE A SIMILAR COHERENT ANSWER TO GIVE [52:47] TO PEOPLE, THAT'S MY HOPE FOR TONIGHT IS THAT WE GET CLOSER TO THAT. [52:52] SO IN THE LAST MEETING, IN THE JUNE MEETING, COMMISSIONER SMITH [52:58] OFFERED, AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING UP THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND SAYING HEY, WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO DIVE INTO THIS FURTHER [53:04] BEFORE CHECKING IT OFF. WHAT WE DECIDED TO DO THEN IS THE TWO OF US SAT DOWN AND WE [53:11] SAID IN OUR COMMITTEES THIS MONTH IN JUNE, WHY DON'T WE GO IN AND ASK HOW THESE THINGS [53:16] MIGHT HAPPEN THROUGH THE COMMITTEES. WHAT WOULD THE ACTIVITIES BE, WHAT ARE THE STRATEGIES TO MAKE [53:21] THESE PRIORITIES COME TO LIGHT? SO IF YOU CAN IMAGINE A PYRAMID, WE'RE REALLY STARTING AT THE [53:27] BOTTOM, THE LITTLE TINY GRAIN SIZE OF WHAT THE ACTIVITIES WOULD BE, WHAT THE PPRR [53:33] COMMITTEE WOULD BE ENGAGED IN SO THAT WE CAN FULFILL OUR VISION [53:38] AND MISSION. ARE YOU WITH ME? OKAY, COOL. [53:43] SO I'M GOING TO DESCRIBE TO YOU THE PROCESS WE WENT THROUGH IN PPRR, THEN COMMISSIONER SMITH WILL TALK ABOUT COMMUNITY [53:48] ENGAGEMENT AND THEN WE'LL TAKE IT UP A LEVEL OF THIS PYRAMID. [53:56] SO IN YOUR PACKET, I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU THE RIGHT PAGE NUMBERS [54:04] HERE. IN YOUR PACKET, THERE IS A PAGE NUMBER ONE, BUT IT'S ABOUT FIVE [54:10] PAGES IN. IT LOOKS LIKE THIS. SAYS STRATEGIC PLAN. [54:16] SO I'M GOING TO JUST TALK QUICKLY THROUGH PAGES 2 AND 3 [54:21] THERE. THIS IS THE PROCESS WE USED. YOU HAVE NOTES AND YOU READ THEM IN ADVANCE, SO I'M NOT GOING TO [54:26] READ THROUGH EACH OF THE BULLET POINTS. BUT I WILL SHARE WE SAT DOWN AND TALKED ABOUT WHAT WAS WORKING AND WHAT WASN'T WORKING SO FAR [54:33] FROM OUR LENS ON A PPRR COMMITTEE. FOR EXAMPLE, WE KNOW THAT THE WORK WE DO ON PANELS IS [54:40] CONFIDENTIAL AND THEREFORE APPEARS A BIT SECRETIVE TO THE PUBLIC AND WE WANT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS IT THAT WE COULD DO ABOUT THAT. [54:48] I ASKED THE GROUP AND WE PUT OUR HEADS TOGETHER TO SAY WHAT IS OUR CHARGE, WHAT IS OUR DESIRED [54:54] OUTCOME? WHAT ARE WE REALLY TRYING TO DO? [55:01] THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE IN NUMBER TWO ON PAGE TWO WHICH IS THE DESIRED OUTCOME. ESSENTIALLY THIS IS OUR CHARGE AS THE PPRR COMMITTEE. [55:10] WE ARE AIMING TO PROVIDE SUBSTANTIVE RECOMMENDATIONS TO MPD. THAT IS THE GOAL OF OUR GROUP. AND WE WILL HAPPEN TO DO THAT IN [55:16] SEVERAL WAYS. SO I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO SKIP TO NUMBER FIVE ON PAGE THREE. [55:27] WHAT WE STARTED TO TALK ABOUT WAS WHAT ARE THE ACTIONS THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO PROVIDE [55:33] SUBSTANTIVE RECOMMENDATIONS, HOW COULD WE GET TO THAT? WE JUST KEPT ASKING HOW, HOW, [55:39] HOW UNTIL WE GOT TO WAYS OF ACTION AND WAYS TO OPERATIONALIZE THIS. IN ITEM FIVE WE TALKED ABOUT [55:46] ACTUAL ACTIONS, THINGS WE COULD DO AND THEY FELL INTO THREE CATEGORIES. SO 5A, 5B, AND 5C, THIS MEANS [55:54] EXAMINING THE CURRENT PRACTICES OF MPD. IT ALSO MEANS LOOKING ACROSS THE [56:02] COUNTRY, LOOKING ACROSS THE GLOBE TO SEE WHAT OTHER PRACTICES ARE INNOVATIVE AND [56:11] WHAT WE COULD BRING HERE. THE OTHER IS POLICIES. YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE POLICY WE'RE STARTING TO DO. [56:17] THIS MONTH WILL BE LOOKING AT THE INTERVENTION SYSTEM, AND WE [56:23] WERE TOLD VIA THE IMPLEMENTATION UNIT THAT THAT WOULD BE REALLY USEFUL FOR US TO LOOK AT NEXT. [56:29] I HAVE HARD COPIES OF THAT FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMITTEE, SO DON'T LET ME FORGET TO GIVE YOU THOSE AT THE END. [56:35] FINALLY, THE PANELS, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THEY SEEM SECRETIVE TO THE PUBLIC, WHAT COULD WE DO? [56:40] AND WE WERE TALKING EARLIER ABOUT LOOKING AT THE AGGREGATE [56:46] DATA COULD BE USEFUL. RECOMMENDING REFINEMENTS TO THE DISCIPLINE MATRIX, WE KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING ON THE CHIEF'S [56:52] AGENDA. AND ALSO DETERMINING THE UTILITY AND THE TIMING OF THE REVIEW [56:57] USING THE SYNOPSES AND THE SUMMARIES, WE FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT WILL LOOK LIKE. [57:04] THEN YOU'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO PAGE TWO. AND I'M GOING TO LAND HERE WHICH [57:12] IS NUMBER THREE ON PAGE TWO IS A THEORY OF ACTION. SO BASED ON WHAT THE COMMITTEE [57:17] CAME UP WITH, IT TOOK ALL OF THOSE ACTIVITIES, ALL OF THOSE BUCKETS, THOSE THREE P'S I JUST [57:23] GAVE YOU, POLICY, PRACTICE, PANELS, AND A THEORY OF ACTION AS YOU MAY KNOW IS AN IF THEN [57:28] STATEMENT. IF WE DO THESE THINGS, THEN WE THINK WE WILL GET THE RESULTS THAT WE ARE INTENDING TO GET. SO FOR PPRR TO BE ABLE TO [57:41] PROVIDE SUBSTANTIVE RECOMMENDATIONS AND HAVE AN IMPACTFUL ROLE IN TRANSFORMING THE ROLE OF POLICING IN [57:47] MINNEAPOLIS, WE BELIEVE THAT WE CAN REVIEW THE MPD POLICIES, LEVERAGE OUR LESSONS LEARNED THROUGH DISCIPLINE PANELS AND [57:53] WORK WITH OPCR TO RESEARCH INNOVATIVE IDEAS TO BRING TO THE [57:58] TABLE. SO THOSE THREE THINGS, PANELS, POLICIES, AND PRACTICES ARE WHAT [58:04] WE BELIEVE THE STRATEGIES ARE FOR MOVING FORWARD IN OUR [58:10] DESIRED OUTCOME WHICH IS THE SUBSTANTIVE RECOMMENDATIONS. I'M GOING TO PAUSE THERE, SEE IF [58:16] THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS OR CLARIFICATION, AND THEN I'LL HAND IT TO COMMISSIONER LEWIS. >> ANY QUESTIONS? [58:23] >> I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION. >> COMMISSIONER PALMER. >> SO YOU WERE SAYING YOU WANTED TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE WORK [58:29] THAT'S BEING DONE NOT JUST IN MINNEAPOLIS REGARDING POLICE OVERSIGHT, BUT NATIONALLY AS WELL. HAVE YOU LOOKED INTO WHAT'S [58:35] CALLED ECPS IN CHICAGO EMPOWERED COMMUNITIES FOR PUBLIC SAFETY? [58:42] IF YOU HAVEN'T, I DEFINITELY RECOMMEND THAT YOU SHOULD DO THAT. >> NOTED. THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER SMITH. [59:00] >> I'M SORRY? >> THERE WE GO. >> FOLLOWING THE SIMILAR PROCESS THAT COMMISSIONER SCHANFIELD [59:10] OUTLINED, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, AND COMMISSIONER AND STEWART AND I HAD SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT [59:15] FRAMING THE STRATEGIC IDEAS AND ACTIVITIES INITIATIVES FOR [59:22] COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. WE THEN HAD A COMMITTEE MEETING WHICH WAS WELL ATTENDED WITH [59:29] SEVERAL OF OUR NEW COMMISSIONERS INCLUDING COMMISSIONER INDRELIE, [59:37] COMMISSIONER McELHINNEY AND COMMISSIONER DESIGNATE SILO. [59:44] WE ALSO HAD A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATE EXTENSIVELY IN OUR DISCUSSION. [59:51] IT WENT THROUGH THIS OUTLINE THAT I'LL SPEAK WITH YOU AND THEN FOLLOWING THE COMMITTEE MEETING, WE UPDATED THIS OUTLINE [59:59] AND MET WITH THE POLICY ANALYST ALONG WITH COMMISSIONER SCHANFIELD TO TRY TO PUT THIS IN [1:00:05] A SIMILAR KIND OF FORMAT AND DO A FEW THINGS THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING UP ON OUR DISCUSSION. [1:00:10] SO LET ME REVIEW BRIEFLY FOR YOU, WE BEGAN OUR DISCUSSION [1:00:16] WITH ASSESSING OUR SITUATION IN TERMS OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT [1:00:22] FUELLING THAT THIS COMMISSION IS STILL IN START UP MODE. WE HAD A SIGNIFICANT TURNOVER OF [1:00:27] MEMBERSHIP. WE'RE STILL IN A CITY SETTING [1:00:33] EXPERIENCING CONFLICT AROUND COMMUNITY SAFETY AND POLICING. THERE'S GENERAL LACK OF OUR AWARENESS AS A COMMISSION, WHAT [1:00:39] MEDIA COVERAGE AND INFORMATION IS OUT THERE TENDS TO BE GENERALLY NEGATIVE. SO WE SEE A REAL NEED TO BUILD [1:00:44] TRUST WITH COMMUNITY. WE'VE ALSO EXPERIENCED FRUSTRATION WITH OUR PUBLIC COMMENT PERIODS BECAUSE THEY [1:00:51] DON'T ENGENDER MEANINGFUL DIALOGUE. SO IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A BASIS [1:00:57] TO BUILD TRUST THROUGH DIALOGUE THROUGH SIMPLY THOSE PUBLIC COMMENTS. [1:01:02] WE'RE MINDFUL THAT THERE IS COMMUNITY LISTENING SESSION FATIGUE. THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF [1:01:07] LISTENING SESSIONS SO THE PUBLIC CAN RIGHTLY ASK, THE COMMUNITY CAN ASK SO YOU'RE LISTENING, [1:01:12] WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WITH IT? WE HAVE SOME EXPERIENCE UNDER [1:01:19] OUR RECORD OF DOING DISCIPLINARY PANEL REVIEWS AND POLICY REVIEWS. AND WE'RE STARTING TO GATHER [1:01:28] DATA ON SUMMARY COMPLAINTS. ALSO THE IDEA THAT AS WE LEARN MORE ABOUT THAT DATA, THAT COULD [1:01:34] INFORM WHERE WE FOCUS OUR OUTREACH EFFORTS. WE ALSO, FINALLY, ARE MINDFUL [1:01:42] THAT AS COMMISSIONERS WHO ARE VOLUNTEERS, WE HAVE LIMITED CAPACITY. AND EVEN THOUGH THE STAFF ARE [1:01:49] PROFESSIONALS, THEY ARE ALSO WITH SOME LIMITED CAPACITY. SO WITH THAT IN MIND, WE WENT [1:01:57] THROUGH A DISCUSSION ABOUT PERFORMANCE INDICATORS. I'M GOING TO COME BACK TO THIS THEORY OF ACTION AT THE END AS DID COMMISSIONER SCHANFIELD. [1:02:08] COMMISSIONER McELHINNEY HELPED US THINK ABOUT KIND OF A DATABASE KEY PERFORMANCE [1:02:13] INDICATOR KIND OF MINDSET, HOW WILL WE MEASURE IMPROVEMENT IN BUILDING COMMUNITY TRUST? [1:02:19] AND SO WE TALKED ABOUT SOME DIFFERENT SURVEY OPPORTUNITIES [1:02:24] AND WE CAN COME BACK TO THAT IN MORE DETAIL. BUT WE THOUGHT IF WE DID A BASELINE SURVEY AND THEN WE [1:02:30] FOLLOWED UP A YEAR LATER, WE'D LIKE TO SEE SOME MEANINGFUL INCREASE, PERHAPS THAT'S 10%, [1:02:36] PERHAPS IT'S JUST ANOTHER NUMBER OF RESIDENT AWARENESS OF CCPO AND UNDERSTANDING OF OUR WORK. [1:02:43] OUR DISCUSSIONS BOIL DOWN DIFFERENT STRATEGIC ACTIVITIES IN SEVERAL MAIN CATEGORIES. [1:02:50] ONE WAS TO PLAN AND IMPLEMENT SEVERAL INFORMAL COMMUNITY LISTENING SESSIONS WHERE WE [1:02:56] BRING SOME BASIC INFORMATION ABOUT THE COMMISSION OUT INTO A [1:03:02] COMMUNITY SETTING. WE EQUIP EACH COMMISSIONER WITH THE ABILITY TO BRING THAT MESSAGE AND THAT INFORMATION OUT [1:03:10] INTO COMMUNITY. WE FOCUS PERHAPS ON NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS WITHIN THE WARDS THAT EACH OF US ARE FOCUSED ON [1:03:18] OR THE COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS WITHIN THE WARD. BEING CLEAR THAT UP FRONT THE [1:03:25] MAIN PURPOSE IS TO LISTEN, TO GATHER INPUT IN THOSE SETTINGS TO SEE WHAT KINDS OF CONCERNS WE [1:03:31] CAN BRING BACK AND WHERE OUR WORK CAN BE RELEVANT TO REFORMING AND ENGAGING FURTHER IN DISCUSSION. [1:03:39] ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS WE DISCUSSED WAS THE IDEA THAT WHEN YOU HEAR SOMEONE FROM THE [1:03:46] PUBLIC SHARING A CONCERN, THERE NEEDS TO BE A VALIDATION AND UNDERSTANDING OF THAT CONCERN SO [1:03:52] WE BEGIN A DIALOGUE RATHER THAN SIMPLY TAKING THE COMMENT AND LEAVING THE IMPRESSION THAT [1:03:57] WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING WITH IT. WE ALSO HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT REFLECTING ON OUR EXPERIENCES ON [1:04:03] THE DISCIPLINARY PANELS. A BIG PART OF THE WORK THAT WE'VE UNDERTAKEN, BUT SINCE THEY [1:04:09] ARE CLOSED TO THE PUBLIC, THERE IS VERY LITTLE UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT'S BEING ACCOMPLISHED THERE. [1:04:15] SO WITHIN LEGAL CONSTRAINTS, WE THOUGHT THERE'S SOME WAY THAT WE [1:04:20] CAN BRING NOT ONLY DATA ABOUT THESE PANEL EXPERIENCES, BUT ALSO REFLECTIONS ABOUT WHAT [1:04:26] WE'VE LEARNED FROM THESE AS COMMISSIONERS AND PERHAPS FIND A WAY THEN TO SHARE THAT OUT TO THE PUBLIC EFFECTIVELY. [1:04:35] AGAIN, WE'D LIKE TO EQUIP EACH COMMISSIONER WITH A PRESENTATION THEY CAN TAKE INTO THE WARD THEY [1:04:43] REPRESENT. WE ENCOURAGED THE IDEA THAT IF EACH OF US OVER THE COURSE OF A [1:04:51] YEAR WENT ONE ON ONE OUT FOR COFFEE WITH EVEN A HANDFUL OF [1:04:57] PEOPLE WHO ARE KNOWN TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS WORK, WE WOULD REALLY MOVE THE NEEDLE BECAUSE WE'RE STARTING AT 0 IN [1:05:03] TERMS OF EXCHANGE OF INFORMATION AND BUILDING OF TRUST. WE ALSO IDENTIFIED A NUMBER OF COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS WHERE IT [1:05:09] WOULD BEHOOVE US TO BE PRESENT AND JUST LISTENING AND SHARE THAT AS CCPO MEMBERS WE'RE [1:05:17] THERE. LET ME WIND UP THEN WITH A THEORY OF ACTION. WE DIDN'T DISCUSS IT IN OUR COMMITTEE, BUT WE WANTED TO COME [1:05:24] UP WITH SOMETHING TO AT LEAST DISCUSS HERE BASED ON THE MODEL THAT COMMISSIONER SCHANFIELD OFFERED. [1:05:29] SO OUR THEORY OF ACTION AS A DRAFT IS IF CCPO ENGAGES IN LISTENING SESSIONS AT [1:05:35] NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, SHARES DATA AND REFLECTIONS ON EXPERIENCES WITH [1:05:42] POLICE DISCIPLINARY PANELS AND HOLDS INFORMAL CONVERSATIONS WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS, THEN [1:05:47] CCPO CAN BUILD STRONGER COMMUNITY AWARENESS OF AND TRUST IN ITS WORK SO THAT WE'LL [1:05:54] ULTIMATELY HAVE A MORE IMPACTFUL WORLD IN PROVIDING MEANINGFUL AND EFFECTIVE OVERSIGHT OF THE POLICE AND THEIR INTERACTIONS WITH COMMUNITY. [1:06:00] SO THAT'S OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT REPORT. >> THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? [1:06:09] COMMISSIONER PALMER. >> MY QUESTION FOR THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, YOU SAY YOU WANT TO CREATE A PROCESS WITHIN LEGAL [1:06:16] CONSTRAINTS TO REFLECT UPON REVIEW PANEL EXPERIENCES. ARE YOU ABLE TO SHARE WHAT SOME OF THOSE CONSTRAINTS ARE AND HOW [1:06:21] TO WORK WITH THEM? AND I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE AN ANSWER TO THAT YET [1:06:28] AS IT SEEMS LIKES WE NEED TO DEVELOP ONE. BUT I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S ANY [1:06:36] ANSWER TO THAT. >> COMMISSIONER PALMER, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. OUR BASIC SENSE IS WE ENTER INTO [1:06:42] THOSE PANELS REVIEWING WITH A COMMITMENT TO CONFIDENTIALITY. AND WE ARE PROHIBITED FROM [1:06:48] DISCUSSING THE DETAILS OF ANY OF THOSE CASES IN ANY WAY THAT WOULD IDENTIFY THE PARTIES OR [1:06:53] THE OFFICER. NONETHELESS, AS WE GATHER [1:06:58] SUMMARY INFORMATION ABOUT THE NATURE OF THE COMPLAINTS, WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S MERIT TO [1:07:04] THEM, THE KIND OF DISCIPLINE THAT'S IMPOSED, THE TYPES OF POLICIES THAT ARE VIOLATED, THE [1:07:13] QUALITY OF EXPERIENCE THAT WE AS CIVILIANS HAVE IN EXCHANGE WITH SWORN PANEL MEMBERS, THE GIVE [1:07:19] AND TAKE THERE, WHAT SEEMS TO BE HAPPENING. DO WE THINK IT'S A VALUABLE JUST [1:07:25] LEGIT DISCIPLINARY PROCESS. ALL OF THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, WE STARTED TO DISCUSS AND FEEL AS [1:07:31] THOUGH THOSE ARE VERY LAWFUL THINGS FOR US TO BE DISCUSSING AND SHARING WITHOUT GETTING INTO THE PARTICULAR DETAILS OF ANY [1:07:38] INDIVIDUAL CASE. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER [1:07:46] SCHANFIELD. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIR. COMMISSIONER PALMER, I'LL ADD TO THE DATA PRACTICES ACT WHICH [1:07:53] DIRECTOR FUJISAWA BROUGHT UP IS SOMETHING THAT SEVERELY CONSTRAINS THE WORK. [1:07:58] SO THINKING OF WAYS IN WHICH WE CAN LEARN MORE ABOUT THAT AND HOW WE CAN WORK WITH IT. -- LEGALLY. [1:08:04] IT'S SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON. SO NOW, IF WE WERE NOT SITTING [1:08:10] ON THIS DAIS, WE WOULD MAYBE HAVE SOME POST-IT NOTES AND SOME CHART PAPER AND SOME MARKERS, WE [1:08:17] DON'T HAVE THAT BECAUSE THIS IS A PUBLIC MEETING. SO I'M GOING TO DO MY BEST TO ZOOM OUT A BIT, TALK ABOUT THE [1:08:22] BIGGER PICTURE HERE AND THEN GIVE PEOPLE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS. WHAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO IS [1:08:27] TALK ABOUT THE ACTIVITIES AND WHAT ARE THE ACTIVITIES YOU THINK WE SHOULD DO OR SHOULDN'T [1:08:32] DO, BECAUSE THAT WILL TAKE PLACE IN THE COMMITTEES, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? AWESOME. [1:08:38] SO IF YOU WOULD PLEASE GO TO PAGE NINE OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND DOCUMENT. [1:08:44] IT'S A BLUE CHART, IT LOOKS LIKE THIS. [1:08:51] I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CLEAR WITH VOCABULARY [1:08:56] BECAUSE IT'S GOOD FOR US TO ALL BE SPEAKING THE SAME LANGUAGE. ON THE LEFT SIDE IT SAYS [1:09:02] STRATEGIC PRIORITIES. THERE ARE FIVE OF THOSE. GOVERNING EXCELLENCE, COMMUNITY [1:09:08] ENGAGEMENT, SUPPORTING POLICE REFORMS, ADVOCACY, ACCESSIBILITY, AND TRANSPARENCY. [1:09:15] THOSE ARE THE FIVE CREATED IN THE FALL AND THAT WE LOOKED AT LAST MONTH. WHAT WAS SO INTERESTING IS WHEN [1:09:22] COMMISSIONER SMITH AND I BROUGHT ALL OF THE ACTIVITIES, ESSENTIALLY YOU CAN VISUALIZE EACH ONE ON A NOTE CARD, WHEN WE [1:09:28] PUT THEM ALL ON THE TABLE TOGETHER, THEY FELL UNDER TWO OF THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES. SO THAT HELPED US UNDERSTAND [1:09:37] REALLY WHAT THE FOCUS COULD AND SHOULD BE. [1:09:42] YOU'LL SEE ON THE RIGHT-HAND COLUMN, POTENTIAL RESPONSIBILITIES. THOSE ARE THINGS WE CAME UP WITH IN COMMITTEE FOR THE MOST PART. [1:09:48] YOU'LL SEE MOST OF THEM FALL UNDER PRIORITY TWO, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. AND MANY OF THEM FALL INTO [1:09:56] THREE, OVERSEEING POLICE REFORMS WHICH IS PPRR, THE WORK OF [1:10:02] POLICY AND RESEARCH. WHAT THIS TELLS ME -- THE OTHER THING WE DID, IF YOU SEE [1:10:09] STRATEGIC PRIORITIES ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE, THOSE ARE THE FIVE. IT SAYS ORIGINAL STRATEGIES ON [1:10:14] THE LEFT-HAND COLUMN AS WELL. THAT REFERS TO THE SMALL TEXT, NOT THE BOLDED TEXT. FOR EXAMPLE UNDER COMMUNITY [1:10:20] ENGAGEMENT, WE WILL FOSTER TRUST, THAT IS WHAT TURNED INTO [1:10:26] THE THEORY OF ACTION. ANYTHING THAT WAS IN COLUMN ONE IN THE REGULAR TYPE FACE, THAT [1:10:34] WAS ACTIONABLE AND COULD BE MOVED INTO THE RIGHT-HAND COLUMN AS AN ACTIVITY. SO WE WANTED TO KEEP THINGS IN [1:10:39] THE RIGHT LEVEL OF THE PYRAMID. BECAUSE ALL OF THE ACTIVITIES [1:10:47] THAT WE BRAINSTORMED IN THE COMMITTEES FELL UNDER TWO BUCKETS, WE THOUGHT WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER THREE. SO I WANT TO GIVE YOU A MOMENT [1:10:54] TO THINK AND THEN I'LL INVITE SOME DISCUSSION ON GOVERNANCE EXCELLENCE BECAUSE THAT SEEMED TO BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE [1:11:00] IMPORTANT FOR US AS WE COMPORT OURSELVES UP HERE ON THE DAIS AS WELL AS WITH EACH OTHER IN [1:11:08] PANELS AND IN COMMITTEES. THERE'S ROOM FOR THAT, BUT IT DOESN'T FALL UNDER THE WORK OF EITHER OF OUR COMMITTEES. [1:11:13] AND THEN NUMBER FOUR AND NUMBER FIVE, ADVOCACY AND THEN TRANSPARENCY AND ACCESSIBILITY. [1:11:21] ON PAGE TEN. THE PROPOSAL YOU'LL SEE IN THE SECOND COLUMN IS BY TAKING SOME [1:11:28] OF THESE ADD -- ADVOCACY, [1:11:34] TRANSPARENCY, AND ACCESSIBILITY IS IMPORTANT. THEY ARE VALUES AND THE [1:11:39] CONVERSATION WE HAD WAS WHAT IF WE COULD DO ALL OF OUR WORK IN THOSE MANNERS IN A TRANSPARENT [1:11:45] AND ACCESSIBLE MANNER AND UNDERSTAND THAT OUR JOB, NUMBER ONE JOB IS ADVOCACY. [1:11:50] WE'RE REALLY HERE TO PROVIDE MEANINGFUL CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT. SO IN THAT SECOND COLUMN, YOU SEE THAT THE TEXT HAS BEEN [1:11:56] BROKEN OUT. SOME OF IT HAS BEEN MOVED, COULD [1:12:01] BE MOVED TO GO ONE, THAT'S A PROPOSAL. AND THEN MERGED WITH ACTIVITIES [1:12:06] IN GOAL THREE, WE PUT THAT IN GOAL THREE AS YOU CAN SEE THAT LAST ACTIVITY IN GOAL THREE. [1:12:12] AND THEN SAME THING FOR NUMBER [1:12:19] FIVE. WE'LL SEE THAT THAT CAN BE MOVED UNDER GOVERNANCE EXCELLENCE, BECAUSE THAT IS HOW WE INTEND TO [1:12:24] BE DOING OUR WORK. AND IT PROBABLY AFFECTS THE OTHER TWO COMMITTEES AS WELL. [1:12:30] AND THIS ONE WITH MAKING THE MEETINGS AND MATERIALS ACCESSIBLE, THAT COULD GO IN [1:12:38] GOAL 2 OR 3. SO THE PROPOSAL THAT COMMISSIONER SMITH AND I, AND [1:12:43] PLEASE INTERRUPT ME COMMISSIONER SMITH IF, I DON'T MEAN TO SPEAK FOR YOU. BUT THIS IS WHAT WE TALKED [1:12:48] ABOUT, COULD WE LIMIT THE NUMBER OF STRATEGIC PRIORITIES TO THREE SO THAT WE COULD REALLY GO DEEP. AND I THINK WHAT THAT WOULD MEAN [1:12:54] IS THAT WHEN PEOPLE ASK US WHAT WE DO, HOW DO YOU PROVIDE [1:13:00] MEANINGFUL OVERSIGHT, WE HAVE THREE WAYS THAT WE DO THAT AND WE'RE ALL REALLY CLEAR ON THAT [1:13:06] AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT. AND I THINK THAT WILL ALSO HELP MOVE OUR WORK FORWARD. WHAT QUESTIONS DO PEOPLE HAVE [1:13:13] AND WONDERINGS? WHAT DO YOU LIKE, WHAT DO YOU NOT LIKE? >> I THINK ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WE FACE IS FOR PEOPLE TO FEEL [1:13:19] LIKE THEY'RE GETTING PROCEDURAL JUSTICE THEY HAVE TO FEEL LIKE THEY'RE BEING HEARD AND IT SEEMS [1:13:26] LIKE WE'RE MANDATED NOT TO GIVE THEM ANY SIGN THAT WE'RE HEARING THEM. [1:13:32] I MEAN, FOR INSTANCE, THE PUBLIC COMMENTER THIS AFTERNOON, I'M NOT SURE WE'RE THE APPROPRIATE [1:13:38] BODY TO RECEIVE THAT COMMENT. I'M NOT SURE HOW WE WOULD ACT ON IT. AND WE DIDN'T PROVIDE HIM ANY [1:13:44] FEEDBACK ON THAT. TO ME, THAT IS NOT GOVERNANCE [1:13:49] EXCELLENCE REGARDLESS OF THE CITY REQUIREMENTS, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO DIRECT [1:13:57] PEOPLE -- JUST LETTING THEM SPEAK AT US FOR TWO MINUTES ISN'T EFFECTIVE. AND WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO [1:14:05] ACTUALLY HELP THEM GET THEIR ISSUES ACTED ON AND HEARD. >> THANK YOU. [1:14:10] >> ANYONE ELSE? >> I DID HAVE ONE -- >> COMMISSIONER PALMER. [1:14:17] >> IN REGARDS AGAIN TO THE CREATE PROCESS WITHIN LEGAL CONSTRAINTS AS WELL AS ADDRESSING THE QUESTION POSED BY [1:14:25] COMMISSIONER BAKER, IF I UNDERSTAND IT, WE DO HAVE ACCESS TO SOME -- DATA. [1:14:30] ARE WE ABLE TO REPORT ON ANY OF THAT AT THESE MEETINGS HERE FOR THE PUBLIC? [1:14:37] BECAUSE IN MY EXPERIENCE AS A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC ATTENDING THESE MEETINGS SINCE NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR, THERE HAVE BEEN [1:14:42] MULTIPLE TIMES IN WHICH NUMEROUS COMMUNITY MEMBERS HAVE ATTENDED THESE MEETINGS AND BROUGHT FORWARD CONCERNS, MOST NOTABLY [1:14:50] WITH THE FAMILY OF ALLISON LUCIER. AND IN FEBRUARY, THERE WAS A [1:14:57] DEMAND AND THEN GOING INTO THE SPRING AS WELL INTO THE THEN CANCELED APRIL AND MAY MEETINGS [1:15:03] THAT THERE BE A REPORT ON THAT FROM THIS COMMISSION ON WHAT INFORMATION IS GOING ON WITH THE [1:15:08] AFTER ACTION REVIEW, THAT THIS COMMISSION SENT A REQUEST FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL WHICH [1:15:14] ULTIMATELY DID GET PASS AND HAD IS BEING INVESTIGATED BY THE CITY AUDITOR. THAT'S JUST AN EXAMPLE, ARE WE [1:15:21] ABLE TO EFFECTIVELY USE THE POWER THAT WE HAVE WITH THAT [1:15:26] ACCESS TO THE ANONYMIZED DATA TO [1:15:32] USE THIS AS A PUBLIC FORUM TO GET BACK TO PEOPLE. EVEN IF IT'S IN THE NEXT MONTH'S [1:15:39] MEETING, THAT WOULD MAKE THEM FEEL THAT ONE, THEY'RE BEING HEARD, AND BEING ANSWERED. [1:15:45] >> I DON'T KNOW IF THE CLERK'S OFFICE WANTED TO ADD ANYTHING TO [1:15:50] THAT QUESTION. >> CHAIR REEVES, I APOLOGIZE, I MISSED THE FIRST HALF OF THAT [1:15:58] COMMENT. I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU ARE THINKING THAT WE'D LIKE TO ADD OR IF YOU'D LIKE TO REPEAT, I'M HAPPY TO ADD SOMETHING IF IT'S [1:16:04] RELEVANT. >> YES, MY QUESTION WAS IN [1:16:10] BRIEF, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING WE HAVE ACCESS TO ANONYMIZED DATA AS A COMMISSION. [1:16:16] ARE WE ABLE TO GIVE REPORTS ON THAT ANONYMIZED DATA TO THE [1:16:22] PUBLIC AT THESE MEETINGS AND MAKE IT A CONSISTENT THING WITHIN THE LEGAL FRAMEWORK, WITHIN THE LEGAL CONSTRAINTS? [1:16:28] >> MADAM CHAIR, COMMISSIONERS, JOEL FUSSI, FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. [1:16:34] I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION IN A VACUUM. CERTAINLY ANY DATA THAT'S [1:16:40] PROVIDED TO YOU THAT'S PUBLIC DATA, YOU CAN SHARE. THE PROVISION OF THE ORDINANCE THAT TALKS ABOUT ANONYMIZED [1:16:52] DATA, I THINK IS THE ONE THAT THE DIRECTOR TALKED ABOUT SOME WORK BEING DONE TO PROVIDE THOSE CASE SUMMARIES TO YOU IN [1:16:58] UPCOMING MEETINGS, AND ONCE THAT IS DONE THOSE WILL BE PUBLIC SUMMARIES AND THOSE WILL BE FREELY SHAREABLE. [1:17:05] BUT THAT'S THE ONLY SPECIFIC INSTANCE OF ANONYMIZED DATA I'M [1:17:14] AWARE OF AND THAT WILL BE PUBLIC DATA. >> THANK YOU. AND JUST A QUICK REMINDER FOR THE BODY, I'VE NOTED THE [1:17:20] PARTICULAR ACTIVITIES THAT I THINK ARE GREAT IDEAS AND INVITING IDEAS AND COMMENTS JUST [1:17:26] NOW ABOUT THE STRATEGY AT THE HIGHER LEVEL AND WHAT YOU ALL THINK ABOUT HAVING THREE INSTEAD [1:17:33] OF FIVE PRIORITIES? >> COMMISSIONER CANADAY. >> MY QUESTION MAY INTERRUPT [1:17:39] WHERE YOU'RE TRYING TO GO AND I APOLOGIZE. COMMISSIONER SCHANFIELD, FIRST, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE BENEFIT [1:17:45] OF HAVING A SKILLED FACILITATOR HAVING US HAVE THIS [1:17:51] CONVERSATION. AND I WANT TO JUST BRIEFLY ADD MY PERSPECTIVE BEFORE I ASK MY QUESTION. THE PERSPECTIVE BEING WHEN I [1:17:57] REVIEWED THE DOCUMENTS BEFORE COMING HERE AND NOT KNOWING WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DO WITH THEM, I DIDN'T MAYBE APPRECIATE SOME OF [1:18:03] THE NUANCE YOU'VE NOW DESCRIBED. SO COULD YOU TELL US, JUST BRIEFLY IN A SENTENCE OR TWO, [1:18:08] WHAT WE'RE GOING TO USE THE REST OF OUR TIME FOR. BECAUSE I THINK IT WOULD HELP US UNDERSTAND WHEN WE SHOULD ASK [1:18:13] SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE'RE COMING UP WITH. >> YOU'VE JUST LED US RIGHT INTO [1:18:18] THE RIGHT SPOT, SO THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CANADAY. THE REST OF THE TIME, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT HOW DO WE [1:18:23] MOVE TOWARDS ONE, SOME SHARED LANGUAGE, WHAT ARE WE ALL WILLING TO SAY OUT LOUD, AND [1:18:29] THEN TWO, HOW MIGHT WE, SHOULD WE DECIDE THAT THREE IS THE RIGHT AMOUNT, DO WE NEED ANOTHER [1:18:37] COMMITTEE? WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHERE WOULD WE DO THE WORK? SO IF THE VISION AND THE MISSION [1:18:44] ARE THE WHY AND THE WHAT AND THE THEORY OF ACTION IS THE HOW, THEN WE WOULD TALK TODAY ALSO [1:18:51] ABOUT THE WHERE AND THE WHEN. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? >> YES, THANK YOU. [1:18:58] >> DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION OR COMMENT? THANK YOU. [1:19:06] COMMISSIONER OLSEN. >> GETTING AHEAD OF OURSELVES A LITTLE BIT IN YOUR MENTION OF A [1:19:14] COMMITTEE DEVOTED FOR GOVERNANCE, I, AS WE'VE HAD THESE DISCUSSIONS, I WAS [1:19:19] INITIALLY KIND OF SKEPTICAL OF THE NEED FOR A NEW COMMITTEE, BUT LISTENING TO THE COMMENTS [1:19:24] HERE, WHETHER IT'S A NEW COMMITTEE OR SOME OTHER MECHANISM, I THINK COMMISSIONER [1:19:33] BAKER'S IDENTIFICATION OF AN ISSUE WITH HOW WE NAVIGATE [1:19:39] INTERACTIONS WITH THE PUBLIC AND OUR RESTRICTIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN [1:19:46] GIVEN, THAT SEEMS LIKE AN IDEAL TOPIC FOR SOME FURTHER FOCUS SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A SMALLER [1:19:52] GROUP, INTERACT WITH THE CLERK'S OFFICE, INTERACT WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, AND FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN BE MORE EFFECTIVE [1:20:01] WHILE COMPLYING WITH THE LAW. AND I THINK COMMISSIONER PALMER'S IDENTIFICATION OF ISSUES FITS IN THAT AS WELL. [1:20:07] AND A THIRD TOPIC THAT FITS IS THE MENTION OF ONBOARDING HERE. [1:20:13] THIS HAS BEEN AN ISSUE SINCE WE'VE STARTED. LIKE WHENEVER WE GET A NEW COMMISSIONER, IT'S DIFFICULT TO [1:20:18] FIGURE OUT HOW THEY GET UP TO SPEED AND HOW THEY GET TRAINED AND WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS ARE. [1:20:23] AND I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER KIND OF FOCUS THAT COULD BE DONE THROUGH SOME KIND OF MECHANISM [1:20:30] APART FROM COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND PUBLIC POLICY. >> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER NEWMAN. [1:20:37] >> I JUST WANT TO ECHO COMMISSIONER BAKER AS WELL AS PALMER. COMMISSIONER BAKER, YOU BROUGHT [1:20:43] UP A GOOD TOPIC THAT WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE DISCUSSIONS ON OF [1:20:48] RESOURCES HERE WITHIN THE CITY FOR BEING PRESENT FOR OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT ARE HERE [1:20:54] AND SPEAKING AND THE CONVERSATIONS THAT THEY'RE BRINGING TO US BECAUSE IT ISN'T [1:21:00] THE RIGHT PLACE, LIKE I SAID, TO HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS, AND WHERE CAN THEY GO TO HAVE THESE [1:21:06] NECESSARY CONVERSATIONS. THAT COULD BE ANOTHER COMMITTEE OR SOME SORT JUST CALL IT A STRAIGHT UP PUBLIC HEARING. [1:21:12] AND THEN EVEN INCORPORATING THOSE MEETINGS WITH THE MPD DEPARTMENT AND THEIR COMMUNITY [1:21:18] ENGAGEMENT THAT THEY'RE DOING AND US JUST BEING PRESENT AT THAT AND EN -- FORCING MPD TO DO [1:21:30] MORE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WHETHER IT'S NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS. THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO BE PRESENT AND VOCAL ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING [1:21:38] HERE IN THESE PANELS AND JUST ADDITIONAL ENDANGERMENT OF [1:21:46] POLICIES. AND NOT JUST ONES THAT WE ARE PICKING OR THE CITY IS PICKING, BUT HAVING THE COMMUNITY LOOK AT [1:21:52] ALL OF THEM AND JUST BE PRESENT AND JUST FOSTERING THAT TRUST AND BUILDING THAT TRUST AND THEN [1:21:58] BEING ON A LEVEL OF DIFFERENT CIVILIANS THAT YES, WHEN THESE [1:22:04] CIVILIANS ARE COMING AND HAVING THESE DISCUSSIONS WITH US AND THERE'S NOT A CITY REPRESENTATIVE THAT IS PRESENT TO BE ABLE TO HELP THEM NAVIGATE [1:22:12] WHERE THEY NEED TO BE OR HOW TO [1:22:20] MAKE A COMPLAINT OR WHATEVER THEIR SITUATION IS. THE GENTLEMAN CAME TO TALK ABOUT HIS NEIGHBORHOOD, HE WANTS MORE [1:22:26] OFFICERS TO BE PRESENT AND HOW CAN WE HELP HIM WITH THAT? HOW CAN WE HELP THAT [1:22:34] NEIGHBORHOOD? I'M PUSHING THE ENVELOPE. BUT I GUESS IT STARTS FROM THE [1:22:40] TOP, YOU KNOW. AND US AS COMMISSIONERS SITTING ON THIS COMMITTEE AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GIVE BECAUSE IT'S A LOT [1:22:46] THAT WE HAVE TO GIVE. BUT WE JUST NEED TO BE NAVIGATING A FUNNEL FROM THE CITY AND MPD TO BE ABLE TO [1:22:53] CREATE THIS PLATFORM FOR US TO BE ABLE TO OPEN THE DOORS AND GO. WE DON'T WANT TO CREATE AND [1:22:58] REINVENT THE WHEEL, WE JUST NEED TO BE OUT BOOTS ON THE GROUND AND GET OUT OF THESE OFFICES, [1:23:06] THESE DESKS AND BE PRESENT. >> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? [1:23:14] >> I HAVE ONE. >> COMMISSIONER STEWART. >> I'M PROBABLY REALLY, REALLY JUMPING THE GUN AND I'M SITTING OVER HERE TRYING TO BITE MY [1:23:21] TONGUE, YOU GUYS. BUT THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT COMMITTEE REALLY DUG DEEP, WE [1:23:27] SPENT A LOT OF EFFORT AND TIME INTO THIS. AND I JUST WANT EVERYBODY [1:23:33] BECAUSE THEY HAD TO REMIND US OF [1:23:38] OUR, THAT WE ARE VOLUNTEERS, AND WE HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF OUR OWN [1:23:44] CAPACITY. AND I THINK THAT WE REALLY NEED TO HOLD OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING. [1:23:51] THAT'S WHY I ASKED FOR THE GENTLEMAN TO BE ABLE TO COME BACK AND SPEAK TO US. YOU GUYS, WE'RE NOT PRIVILEGED [1:23:57] TO WHAT WE WERE PRIVILEGED TO AT OUR LAST MONTH'S MEETING. HE CAME AND SPOKE TO US IN GREAT [1:24:04] DETAIL ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON IN WARD 12, AND WE DID COME UP WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES AND SOLUTIONS FOR [1:24:10] PUBLIC TO BE ABLE TO BE HEARD AND FOR US TO BE ABLE TO NOT JUST SIT AND LISTEN TO THEM, BUT [1:24:16] ALSO ENGAGE WITH THEM. SO WHEN I SAY I'M JUMPING THE GUN, I'M PROBABLY JUMPING THE [1:24:22] GUN BY SAYING IT'S GOING TO TAKE FOR US AS COMMISSIONER NEWMAN MENTIONED, IT'S GOING TO TAKE [1:24:27] FOR US TO COMMIT TO THE WORK. IT'S GOING TO TAKE FOR US TO SACRIFICE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF OUR TIME. IT'S GOING TO TAKE FOR US TO [1:24:35] DEMAND A SEAT WHEN MPD IS HOLDING PUBLIC SAFETY MEETINGS [1:24:40] THAT THEY ARE REMEMBERING THAT THERE IS A COMMISSION OVERSIGHT THAT IS HERE THAT IS WILLING TO DO THE WORK. [1:24:46] I CONTINUE TO BRING UP THE MSTAT MEETINGS BECAUSE THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO REASON THAT EACH [1:24:52] WARD REPRESENTATIVE IS NOT PRESENT AND DOESN'T HAVE A PERSONAL EMAIL INVITE FROM CHIEF [1:24:59] O'HARA AND/OR HIS STAFF TO LET US KNOW WHEN THESE ARE TAKING PLACE INSIDE OF OUR WARDS. [1:25:07] AND ALL OF US SHOULD HAVE CONTACT WITH OUR PRECINCT [1:25:13] COMMANDER. EACH AND EVERY LAST ONE OF US SHOULD KNOW WHO THAT COMMANDER IS FOR THAT PARTICULAR PRECINCT [1:25:18] THAT'S INSIDE OF YOUR WARD. I KNOW A LOT OF US DON'T. [1:25:23] A LOT OF US DON'T HAVE THAT RELATIONSHIP. I DO BECAUSE I DEMAND IT. BUT I BELIEVE THAT IT'S GOING TO [1:25:32] TAKE FOR US TO ACTUALLY DO THIS GOVERNANCE, NUMBER ONE. [1:25:37] I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A SUBCOMMITTEE. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SAY HEY WHO'S INTERESTED ON THE THIRD SATURDAY OF THE [1:25:42] MONTH, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH. [1:25:47] YOU GUYS, I KNOW THAT WE HAVE NACOLE COMING IN OCTOBER FOR [1:25:53] THOSE OF US THAT HAVE THE EXPERIENCE OF GOING LAST YEAR, I HONESTLY DON'T WANT FOR US TO [1:25:59] SHOW UP AND SHOW UP AS HALFWAY. WE NEED TO SHOW UP AND ACTUALLY [1:26:05] LIKE MY MOM WOULD SAY, STAY HOME IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GO BIG. IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT, WE [1:26:11] NEED TO NOT PARTICIPATE. I'M GOING TO BE VERY HONEST. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS VERY [1:26:17] SERIOUS TO ME AS A CIVILIAN AS I JUST RECEIVED EARLIER TODAY AN INCIDENT THAT INVOLVED MPD AND [1:26:24] I'M GLAD THAT MY COMMUNITY MEMBERS INSIDE OF WARD 8 TRUST ME ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO SAY HEY, [1:26:31] MS. STEWART, I'M NOT SURE IF WHAT I'M SEEING IS ACCURATE, CAN [1:26:36] YOU HELP ME WITH IT? THAT SHOULD BE OUR GOAL AND THAT SHOULD BE WHERE WE'RE LEANING TOWARDS WHEN WE SAY WHAT ARE WE [1:26:42] GOING TO DO. SO I APOLOGIZE FOR JUMPING THE GUN. BUT I JUST CANNOT SIT QUIET [1:26:47] THROUGH THIS ONE. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? [1:26:54] ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER SCHANFIELD. >> COMMISSIONER STEWART, THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE EVERYONE, [1:27:02] IF YOU'RE FEELING SO MOVED TO SHARE ANY REFLECTIONS OR WHAT THIS MAKES YOU THINK OF, BECAUSE [1:27:07] WHAT YOU'VE REALLY JUST SAID IS REALLY POWERFUL WHICH IS WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY AND WE ALL BELIEVE [1:27:15] THAT ALSO. AND SO THIS IS IN TERMS OF MOVING TO THE THEORY OF ACTION ESSENTIALLY IS TO SAY HEY, THIS [1:27:21] IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON BECAUSE WE COULD DO A LOT OF THINGS AND WE SHOULD DO A LOT OF THINGS. BUT AS YOU ALSO MENTIONED, TIME [1:27:29] AND BANDWIDTH IS A REALITY. SO WHAT IF WE COULD ALL DIVIDE THAT UP AND WHAT IF WE COULD BE [1:27:35] REALLY STRATEGIC AND THOUGHTFUL ABOUT HOW WE DO THAT SO THAT IT'S NOT ON JUST A FEW PEOPLE'S [1:27:40] SHOULDERS, BUT EVERYONE FEELS INVITED AND FEELS PART OF MOVING THIS FORWARD. I'M JUST IMAGINING, AS YOU WERE [1:27:47] TALKING, COMMISSIONER STEWART, IF ALL 15 OF US WERE SITTING IN THE FRONT ROW AT MSTAT. [1:27:53] WE COULD DO THAT. A COUPLE OF US WENT TO THE EVENT THE OTHER NIGHT OR TO MSTAT. [1:27:59] AND WHAT IF WE WERE ALL THERE TOGETHER. BUT THAT'S UP TO US, RIGHT? WE DON'T GET PAID FOR THAT. THAT'S ON OUR OWN TIME AND [1:28:06] ORGANIZING. I THINK THERE'S A REAL OPPORTUNITY HERE FOR US TO WORK TOGETHER AND REALLY MAKE A [1:28:12] DIFFERENCE. SO GIVEN THAT AND THESE MOVES TO ACTION, I'M GOING TO PAUSE AND SEE IF ANYONE ELSE WANTS TO HAVE [1:28:18] THE MIC BEFORE I MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT STEP. [1:28:24] >> I HAVE SOMETHING. >> THE CHAIR NEEDS TO CALL ON YOU. >> COMMISSIONER PALMER. >> FIRST OF ALL, I DEFINITELY [1:28:31] JUST WANT TO ECHO A LOT OF COMMISSIONER STEWART'S STATEMENTS. [1:28:36] I THOUGHT, THERE'S NOT MUCH I CAN ADD TO IT. BUT COMMISSIONER STEWART IS EXACTLY CORRECT, MORE NEEDS TO [1:28:41] HAPPEN. THERE IS DEFINITELY A LOT MORE POWER THAT THIS COMMISSION CAN [1:28:46] HAVE. ULTIMATELY, I FEEL LIKE I HAVE A LOT OF THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND AND SAY, BUT ULTIMATELY I THINK THAT NEEDS TO [1:28:52] HAPPEN IN A COMMITTEE OF WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING. >> THAT WAS A BEAUTIFUL SEGUE, [1:28:58] BUT I'LL WAIT AND SEE IF ANYONE ELSE HAS OTHER COMMENTS. [1:29:04] THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PALMER. THEN I THINK THE NEXT STEP HERE [1:29:09] IS I'M PROPOSING A THIRD COMMITTEE. SO IF THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IS OUTWARD FOCUSED, AND THE [1:29:16] POLICY RESEARCH COMMITTEE IS FOCUSED ON RECOMMENDATIONS, THEN THIS IS ONE THAT'S FOCUSED ON HOW WE OPERATE, HOW WE GOVERN [1:29:22] OURSELVES, HOW WE ENGAGE WITH THE CITY, HOW WE RESPOND TO PUBLIC COMMENTS, WHAT WE WANT TO [1:29:31] DO, THE CULTURE OF OUR ORGANIZATION HERE AS COMMISSIONERS BECAUSE WE ARE A BOARD, WE ARE NOT PART OF THE CITY, TECHNICALLY. [1:29:38] BUT WE HAVE OUR OWN LANE AND SO WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE. SO PEOPLE WHO HAVE SPOKEN UP, I [1:29:45] ALSO WOULD INVITE US TO THINK ABOUT SHARING THE LOAD. SO IF YOU'RE ALREADY ON A COMMITTEE, YOU MIGHT CHOOSE THE [1:29:51] GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE INSTEAD. BUT I THINK WE SHOULD BE REALLY CAREFUL ABOUT BANDWIDTH, YOU'RE [1:29:58] WELCOME TO BE ON AS MANY COMMITTEES AS YOU WANT. BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO BE ON ONE. [1:30:03] LET ME PAUSE AND SEE WHAT LEVEL OF INTEREST THERE IS IN LEADING THE WAY FOR A GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE. [1:30:24] >> WE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO ADD ANOTHER COMMITTEE, MAYBE [1:30:29] JUST AN EXTENSION OF THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT COMMITTEE. I'M PART OF THE COMMUNITY [1:30:34] ENGAGEMENT COMMITTEE AS WELL. JUST AN EXTENSION OF THAT PUSHING US AND FORCING US TO BE [1:30:40] MORE OUT IN THE FIELD. THAT'S SIMPLY WHAT IT IS, REACHING COMMUNITY MEMBERS. [1:30:58] SO I THINK JUST KEEP IT COMMUNITY BASED OF HOW WE CAN REACH THE PEOPLE VERSUS THE [1:31:10] CITY. >> OKAY, COMMISSIONER BAKER. >> I WAS WONDERING ABOUT MAYBE A LIMITED TERM COMMITTEE MEETING [1:31:15] FOR 3 OR 4 SESSIONS SO IT'S NOT AS OPEN ENDED, ALTHOUGH MAYBE IT [1:31:22] DOES BELONG IN THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. AND THEN MY OTHER QUESTION WAS DO WE HAVE A QUORUM ISSUE IF WE [1:31:28] DID ALL SHOW UP TO AN EVENT LIKE THAT OR IF A QUORUM OF US SHOWED [1:31:34] UP? >> SO TO MY UNDERSTANDING, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, CLERK, IF THERE IS A COMMUNITY MEETING, [1:31:41] SUCH AS THE CHIEF'S MSTAT AND WE ALL SHOW UP, DO YOU HAVE THE [1:31:49] CAPACITY TO NOTICE IF QUORUM IS PRESENT BUT SAY NO BUSINESS WILL [1:31:54] BE DISCUSSED? >> CHAIR, YES, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU WOULD DO ESSENTIALLY. IF YOU KNOW ABOUT THE MEETING IN ADVANCE, IT'S FREE AND OPEN TO [1:32:00] THE PUBLIC, THEN IT WOULD JUST GO ON THE CALENDAR WITH A NOTICE THAT THERE'S A POTENTIAL THAT A [1:32:06] QUORUM WOULD BE THERE, AND AS YOU SAID, WE USUALLY PUT IN A DISCLAIMER THAT THERE'S NO INTENTION FOR OFFICIAL BUSINESS [1:32:12] TO BE CONDUCTED. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. [1:32:19] COMMISSIONER BAKER, WAS THAT THE END OF YOUR COMMENTS? >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER PALMER. [1:32:25] >> I WANT TO SECOND WHAT COMMISSIONER NEWMAN WAS SAYING. IT DOES SEEM LIKE A LOT OF THE [1:32:31] STUFF IN THIS GOVERNANCE EXCELLENCE COMMISSION COULD BE PART OF A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT [1:32:37] COMMISSION OR COMMITTEE, EXCUSE ME. THERE MAY BE POTENTIALLY A FEW [1:32:42] THINGS IN THERE THAT COULD BE DELEGATED TO OTHER COMMITTEES. BUT I THINK OVERALL, THIS SHOULD BE INCLUDED AS PART OF COMMUNITY [1:32:50] ENGAGEMENT, BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THERE IS A PRETTY BIG INTENTION AND PUSH FOR US TO [1:32:55] BECOME MORE PUBLICLY VISIBLE AS WELL AS MORE ACTIVE IN OUR [1:33:00] COMMUNITIES. D HOW WE BEHAVE IS ULTIMATELY GOING TO BE PART OF THAT PERCEPTION OF THE CCPO AND HOW [1:33:09] PEOPLE ENGAGE WITH US. AND THAT'S ALL. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH AND THEN [1:33:15] COMMISSIONER CANADAY AND I PUT MYSELF ON STACK. COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> MADAM CHAIR, I APPRECIATE THE [1:33:22] COMMENTS ABOUT THE ROLE OF [1:33:29] COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IN HELPING ADVANCE THIS GOVERNANCE ISSUE. THE ONE THING THAT OCCURS TO ME IS SOME OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING [1:33:36] ABOUT ON GOVERNANCE IS VERY INTERNALLY FOCUSED, IT'S NOT FOCUSED OUT ON THE COMMUNITY. IT'S FOCUSED ON HOW WE ALL DO [1:33:41] OUR BEST WORK TO GET ALL OF THE TRAINING WE'RE SUPPOSED TO GET, TO SHOW UP AND PARTICIPATE IN [1:33:48] DISCIPLINARY PANELS, AND TO PLAN KIND OF SOME OF OUR ANNUAL [1:33:56] FUNCTIONS, SO THERE'S A CAPACITY FOR THAT. IT MAY NOT MAYBE BE A STANDING COMMITTEE, BUT IT HAS AN INTERNAL FOCUS ON JUST HELPING [1:34:03] US PERFORM AT OUR BEST, MAKING SURE WE'RE ALL HOLDING EACH OTHER ACCOUNTABLE TO FULFILL ALL OF OUR DUTIES. [1:34:09] AND THAT TO ME IS DIFFERENT THAN SOME OF THE OTHER COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THINGS. SO THERE'S A LOT OF WAYS WE COULD DO IT AND MAKE IT FIT. [1:34:16] BUT THAT'S A COMMENT I HAD. [1:34:25] >> COMMISSIONER CANADAY. >> I THINK I WAS CALLED ON AHEAD OF TIME SO I'M GOING TO JUMP IN. SO PART OF WHAT I WAS GOING TO [1:34:32] SAY WAS I WAS BEATEN TO THE PUNCH BY COMMISSIONER SMITH'S COMMENTS. BUT LET ME BUILD ON THAT. [1:34:38] SO I'M, I GUESS, PRELIMINARILY SPEAKING IN SUPPORT OF THE IDEA OF A SEPARATE GOVERNANCE [1:34:45] COMMITTEE. AND THE REASON THAT I WOULD BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION FOR CONSIDERATION AS TO WHY I'M THINKING IT'S A GOOD IDEA IS [1:34:51] HAVING BEEN ON THE COMMISSION FOR A YEAR NOW, ONE OF THE LESSONS LEARNED THAT ALL OF US [1:34:57] UP HERE NOW IS HOW MUCH WORK COMES WITH THIS ROLE. WE ARE ALL VOLUNTEERS AND WHAT [1:35:03] WE DO HERE WHICH IS PUBLIC AND IS TELEVISED AND IS AS PUBLIC AS WE CAN MAKE IT, IS KIND OF A [1:35:09] SMALL PART OF THE JOB. I DO A LOT OF WORK IN THE REVIEW PANELS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO [1:35:15] DISCUSS HERE HOW TO MAKE THAT AND THE LEARNINGS FROM THOSE MORE PUBLIC TOO. [1:35:21] BUT SOMETHING THAT I FEEL LIKE HAS BEEN MISSING IN THE LAST YEAR IS BECAUSE WE ARE SO BUSY DOING ALL OF THESE THINGS, WE [1:35:27] ARE EXTREMELY RELIANT ON THE WONDERFUL HELP WE GET FROM THE CITY IN PLANNING OUR MEETINGS [1:35:33] AND PLANNING WHAT WE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT AND EXECUTING THEM WHEN WE SHOW UP FOR THESE MEETINGS AND GOING THROUGH [1:35:42] AGENDAS. BUT THIS COMMISSION OFTEN HAS VERY LITTLE VOICE AND CONVERSATION AMONG EACH OTHER. [1:35:47] AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ALL HERE FOR. WE'RE THE REPRESENTATIVES WHO [1:35:53] ARE SUPPOSED TO BE FINDING THE HARD ISSUES. AND SO I'M TRYING TO PHRASE THIS IN A WAY, I'M NOT SAYING THERE'S [1:35:59] ANYTHING WRONG WITH THE WONDERFUL HELP THAT WE GET FROM THE CITY. BUT I DO THINK THIS COMMITTEE [1:36:05] WOULD BE ALLOWED TO GIVE THE COMMISSION ITSELF MORE VOICE ON WHAT WE WANT TO HEAR, HOW WE [1:36:12] WANT TO DISCUSS IT IN THESE ENVIRONMENTS, HOW WE WANT TO MOVE THE WORK FORWARD. [1:36:17] AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE COMMISSION'S FOR. SO THAT'S MY ATTEMPT TO SAY, I [1:36:26] MEAN, I WOULD START OUT WITH THE ASSUMPTION THAT I DON'T WANT TO CREATE ANOTHER COMMITTEE, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE A YEAR AGO [1:36:31] WHEN I WAS JOINING, THE COMMISSION WAS JUST KIND OF FINISHING A LONG PROCESS OF FIGURING OUT HOW TO RUN THE [1:36:36] COMMITTEES AND WE SETTLED ON TWO. SO I THINK MANY OF US PROBABLY DON'T WANT TO ROCK THE BOAT BY [1:36:43] SAYING WE WANT TO ADD ANOTHER ONE WITHOUT A VERY GOOD REASON, BUT I THINK THERE'S A GOOD REASON TO CONSIDER. THANK YOU. [1:36:51] >> THANK YOU. I'LL JUST ADD I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER SMITH AND ALL THOSE [1:36:56] IN ADVOCATION OF A GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE. I DO THINK THE WORK IS IMPORTANT. I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF AN AD HOC, [1:37:02] NOT PUTTING A DEFINED TIME ON IT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING THESE THINGS DONE. [1:37:07] I KNOW THE CONVERSATION BEFORE WAS TO BE A STANDING COMMITTEE, IF IT SHOULD BE OR SHOULD NOT BE BECAUSE IT WAS DETAILED WORK AND [1:37:14] COMPACT. BUT I DO LIKE THE DIRECTION THIS IS GOING TO HAVE THREE GOALS. [1:37:20] I THINK GOVERNANCE IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE HELPFUL AS WE FIGURE OUT WAYS TO GOVERN OURSELVES AND BUILD AN INTERNAL PROCESS AS [1:37:26] OPPOSED TO THE COMMUNITY PROCESS, AND THOSE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT TODAY THAT ARE MORE COMMUNITY FOCUSED WOULD BE [1:37:31] APPROPRIATE FOR THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT COMMITTEE, SO I'M [1:37:37] ADVOCATING FOR THE GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE, IF THAT MATTERS. ANYONE ELSE? WANT TO MAKE SURE I DIDN'T MISS ANYBODY. [1:37:42] COMMISSIONER STEWART. >> I AM ALSO IN FAVOR OF HAVING THE GOVERNANCE. AND THE REASON WHY I SAY I'M IN [1:37:48] FAVOR FOR IT IS BECAUSE THERE DOES NEED TO BE ACCOUNTABILITY AMONGST OURSELVES INTERNALLY. [1:37:54] THERE NEEDS TO BE ACCOUNTABILITY OF AS COMMISSIONER NEWMAN SAID [1:38:00] SOMEONE KEEPING A CALENDAR AND MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE SAYING HEY ARE YOU GOING TO SHOW UP, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE COMMUNITY [1:38:08] ENGAGEMENT LEADERSHIP THAT IS IN PLACE WHERE WE CALL EACH OTHER AND SAY HEY, ARE YOU COMING? I APPRECIATE YOU CALLING ME AND [1:38:14] SAYING BRIDGETTE, DID YOU PUT IT ON YOUR CALENDAR. BECAUSE WE ARE, AS YOU SAID, [1:38:20] COMMISSIONER CANADAY, WE ARE ALL VERY, VERY BUSY. BUT I THINK IT WOULD LIGHTEN OUR [1:38:26] LOAD AND IT WOULD HOLD US ACCOUNTABLE EVEN IF IT WERE AS [1:38:33] COMMISSIONER BAKER SAID, EVEN IF IT WAS FOR JUST A LIMITED TERM, I ALSO THINK THAT IT WOULD HELP [1:38:39] OUR NEWER COMMISSIONERS WITH THE TRAINING COMPONENT JUST TO HAVE A BASIC UNDERSTANDING OF [1:38:47] LANGUAGE AND WHAT WE ARE HERE FOR AND WHY WE USE SOME OF THE TERMS THAT WE USE. AND THEN UNDERSTANDING HOW TO [1:38:53] READ POLICY. BECAUSE I KNOW THAT COMING IN NEW LAST YEAR FOR MYSELF, IF I HAD NOT GONE TO NECOLE AND I HAD [1:39:02] NOT HAD RELATIONSHIPS OUTSIDE OF HERE WITH SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS, I WOULD BE VERY [1:39:07] LOST IN JUST BASIC LANGUAGE. SO I'M GRATEFUL THAT I HAD RELATIONSHIPS WITH OTHER [1:39:13] COMMISSIONERS BEFORE JOINING THE COMMITTEE. BUT IF I HAD NOT, I WOULD JUST [1:39:19] BE A HAMSTER ON A WHEEL. SO I THINK HAVING A GOVERNANCE [1:39:25] AND BEING ABLE TO HAVE ACTUAL BASIC TRAINING OF WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR WHEN YOU'RE ON A [1:39:30] PANEL, WHAT TYPE OF COMMUNICATIONS YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK UP FOR YOUR WARD, [1:39:36] AND HOW TO REPRESENT, BECAUSE ALL EYES, I BELIEVE IT WAS COMMISSIONER PALMER, THAT SAID [1:39:42] HOW WE ENGAGE IS HUGE AND HOW WE SHOW UP IN COMMUNITY IS HUGE. [1:39:48] BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE THAT ARE WATCHING US FROM YOUNG CHILDREN TO OUR ELDERS IN THE [1:39:54] COMMUNITY. AND WE REALLY NEED TO ALWAYS REPRESENT OURSELVES, OUR FAMILY, BUT KNOW THAT WE ARE ON A [1:40:01] COMMISSION THAT PEOPLE ARE ABSOLUTELY WATCHING US BECAUSE IF WE'RE HOLDING POLICE OFFICERS ACCOUNTABLE, THEY WANT TO HOLD [1:40:07] US ACCOUNTABLE. SO I THINK THAT IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE NEED TO HAVE THIS COMMITTEE, HOWEVER WE GO ABOUT [1:40:13] IT. >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? [1:40:21] COMMISSIONER BARTZ. >> THANK YOU. [1:40:28] I THINK THAT I ABSOLUTELY SEE THE NEED FOR IT. AND I'M NEW, SO I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE TO BASE THIS [1:40:37] ON. BUT MY RELATIVELY SHORT EXPERIENCE OF SEEING THE NEED FOR THIS, I WOULD CAUTION THOUGH [1:40:44] THAT THE LANGUAGE THAT'S USED TO CREATE THE COMMITTEE OBVIOUSLY [1:40:52] WILL NEED TO CONSIDER THE CITY STAFF IN HOW THIS IS GOING TO WORK IN TERMS OF COORDINATION. [1:41:00] AND THEN FROM THERE AS COMMISSIONERS IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT PROCEDURE OR WHATEVER, WHO DO WE ASK? [1:41:06] ARE WE GOING TO BE GOING TO THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS ALL THE TIME OR ARE WE STILL GOING TO CITY STAFF? [1:41:11] SO I'M A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED ABOUT KIND OF DUPLICATION AND CREATING MORE BUREAUCRACY. [1:41:20] AND I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE I FEEL THE NEED A BIT TO MAYBE A [1:41:26] LIAISON OR ADVOCACY THING TO WORK WITH THE CITY STAFF A BIT MORE. THAT'S JUST MY INITIAL [1:41:31] IMPRESSION, BECAUSE I DO FEEL LIKE DEFINITELY A DISCONNECT [1:41:38] FROM THIS COMMISSION, OTHER MEMBERS, AND IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE VERY CLEAR PARAMETERS SO [1:41:44] THAT WE KNOW HOW WE CAN GET TOGETHER AND WORK TOGETHER WITHOUT WORRYING ABOUT QUORUM OR NOT. [1:41:51] AND I THINK WE'D BE A LOT MORE PRODUCTIVE IF SOME OF THESE PARAMETERS WERE KIND OF LAID [1:41:58] OUT. AND I THINK WE JUST NEED TO THINK ABOUT HOW THE COMMITTEE ITSELF WOULD FUNCTION AND WHAT THE MEMBERS WOULD DO IN THEIR [1:42:04] RELATIONSHIP TO THE CITY STAFF. THANK YOU. >> ANYONE ELSE? [1:42:09] COMMISSIONER NEWMAN. >> SORRY, JUST WANTED TO ADD A LITTLE TIDBIT. I KNOW BEFORE WE CREATED THE [1:42:15] COMMITTEES, WE HAD A WORKING GROUP. MAYBE LET THAT FOCUS AND BE THE [1:42:22] WORKING GROUP TO WHERE IT DIDN'T HAVE TO BE WHERE WE SENT OUT [1:42:27] NOTIFICATIONS, WE DIDN'T HAVE TO ALERT THE PUBLIC, IT'S JUST A WORKING GROUP SO THE CITY [1:42:33] OFFICIALS WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE INVOLVED IN CREATING CALENDARS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. IT WOULD STRICTLY BE WORKING. [1:42:39] AND WE WOULD BE MINDFUL OURSELVES OF WHO WOULD BE IN ATTENDANCE OUT OF ALL OF US, AND WE WOULD MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE [1:42:44] A QUORUM SO EVERYONE HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK AND PUT IN. AND FOR THOSE THAT WEREN'T, WE [1:42:50] WOULD JUST QUICK SYNOPSIS OF WHAT WE DISCUSSED AND GO FROM THERE. AND MAYBE IT WOULD BE SHUFFLING OF WHO'S GOING TO WORK AND WHO [1:42:55] WILL COME TO THE NEXT MEETING, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. AND EVERYBODY WOULD HAVE THEIR TWO CENTS, SO IT WOULD JUST BE A [1:43:02] WORKING GROUP. >> COMMISSIONER OLSEN. >> THIS PROBABLY RAISES QUESTIONS, AND I THINK IT'S A [1:43:08] GOOD IDEA. I WAS THE HEAD OF THE WORKING GROUP ON GOVERNANCE WHEN WE FIRST STARTED. AND I LIKED THE FLEXIBILITY YOU [1:43:15] HAVE AS A WORKING GROUP. BUT AS WE STUDIED THE ISSUE AND [1:43:21] LEARNED THAT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WORKING GROUPS AND COMMITTEES, WE HAD A LOT OF INPUT FROM THE CITY CLERK AND [1:43:29] THE CITY ATTORNEY, BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT A WORKING GROUP IS KIND OF A DEFINED TERM [1:43:37] THAT AND I'D LOVE TO HAVE THE INPUT FROM YOU GUYS THAT IT'S BASICALLY THE PROCESS WOULD BE [1:43:43] THE COMMISSION HAS A TASK IT NEEDS DONE AND IT DESIGNATES SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS TO [1:43:49] WORK ON THAT UNTIL IT'S DONE AND THEN THE WORKING GROUP DISAPPEARS. [1:43:54] AND THIS SEEMS LIKE TO ME THE VARIOUS POTENTIAL ACTIVITIES WE [1:44:02] HAVE SEEM LIKE THEY MIGHT BE MORE FRUITFULLY ADDRESSED IN A MORE LONG-TERM COMMITTEE RATHER [1:44:09] THAN JUST THE COMMISSION TELLING THE WORKING GROUP WHAT TO DO. >> MADAM CHAIR, IF I MIGHT? [1:44:15] >> YES. >> THANK YOU. I WOULD DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION AND YOUR THOUGHTS ARE EXACTLY [1:44:21] CORRECT. IN YOUR BYLAWS, IT'S ACTUALLY ARTICLE EIGHT, COMMITTEES AND WORK GROUPS. AND THOSE BYLAWS ARE ON THE [1:44:27] PUBLIC WEBSITE IF YOU GO TO YOUR PAGE, THE RULES, THE ORDINANCE ARE ALL THERE. [1:44:33] ARTICLE EIGHT TALKS ABOUT COMMITTEES. KEEP IN MIND THEY HAVE TO BE ANY COMMITTEE WHETHER STANDING, [1:44:39] PERMANENT OR TEMPORARY MAYBE CREATED WITH THE CONSENT OF THE CITY COUNCIL. THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT CAN'T BE DONE, YOU CAN BRING THIS REQUEST [1:44:46] TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND GET A PERMANENT COMMITTEE IF THEY WERE TO GRANT THAT TO YOU TO. BUT THAT WOULD OBVIOUSLY TAKE [1:44:52] SOME DEGREE OF PROCESS. AND YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT WITH REGARD TO THERE IS A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBILITY WITH THE [1:44:57] CREATION OF A WORK GROUP, AGAIN [1:45:02] REFER TO THOSE BYLAWS, BUT JUST REAL QUICKLY, THEY STATE THAT THE CCPO MAY CREATE WORK GROUPS [1:45:09] OF ITS OWN MEMBERS CONCENTRATING LESS THAN A QUORUM FOR SPECIFIC ISSUES ON SHORT-TERM TASKS OR [1:45:16] PROJECTS TO REPORT RECOMMENDATION OR FINDINGS TO THE FULL CCPO BECAUSE THEY'RE LESS THAN A QUORUM THEY'RE NOT [1:45:22] SUBJECT TO THE OPEN MEETING LAW FOR INSTANCE. SO THE WAY YOU PHRASED IT IS EXACTLY CORRECT, THEY KIND OF [1:45:28] HAVE TWO DIFFERENT PURPOSES AND TWO DIFFERENT LIFE CYCLES. BUT THOSE ARE POLICY [1:45:33] CONSIDERATIONS THAT YOU CAN LOOK INTO CERTAINLY IT'S EASIER AND MORE FLEXIBLE TO GO WITH A WORK [1:45:38] GROUP, BUT THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE AS PERMANENT. >> OKAY. [1:45:43] ANY OTHER? MADAM CLERK. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR REEVES. [1:45:49] I'D JUST LIKE TO ADD ON TOP OF ATTORNEY FUSSY'S COMMENTS. THAT JUST LOOKING AT THIS [1:45:55] LANGUAGE AND I KNOW THAT THIS IS JUST AN IDEA THAT WE'RE SUSSING OUT AT THIS POINT. [1:46:01] BUT MAYBE WANT TO ENCOURAGE SOME CAUTION AS COMMISSIONER BARTZ [1:46:06] SORT OF WEIGHED INTO THIS TERRITORY ABOUT WHAT IS THE ROLE [1:46:12] OF CITY STAFF CLERK'S OFFICE VERSUS WHAT'S THE ROLE OF THIS BODY AND THE COMMITTEES, THE [1:46:23] TOTAL GROUP, AND CERTAINLY WHEN IT COMES TO ONBOARDING, TRAINING, ALL OF THOSE THINGS, [1:46:29] WE ARE CERTAINLY HAVE SOME THINGS IN THE WORKS AND WE DON'T HAVE TO GO DOWN THAT RABBIT HOLE [1:46:36] TONIGHT. AND WE DID AN ORIENTATION IN DECEMBER. WE ACTUALLY WERE GOING TO TALK [1:46:41] WITH THE CHAIR THIS WEEK ABOUT POTENTIALLY DOING ANOTHER ONE ACTUALLY NEXT MONTH BECAUSE WE'VE GOT QUITE A FEW NEW MEMBERS. [1:46:48] AND JUST WANT TO PROVIDE SOME PERSPECTIVE AS WELL ABOUT WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT SHARED LANGUAGE AND THOSE KIND OF [1:46:56] THINGS. AND AS WE ALL DO, WE THINK ABOUT THE THINGS THAT WE'RE INVOLVED IN, BUT THIS IS A BODY THAT [1:47:05] OPERATES BY OF COURSE YOU GET TO MAKE YOUR OWN RULES, BUT WE ALSO OPERATE BY RULES THAT ARE SET UP [1:47:11] BOTH BY THE CITY, BY THE STATE, BY BEST PRACTICES AND ALL OF THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. [1:47:17] WE WANT TO BE CAREFUL TO NOT DIVERGE TOO FAR FROM WHAT THE ACCEPTED LANGUAGE AND THINGS ARE [1:47:23] OF JUST CONDUCTING BUSINESS IN THIS MANNER WHEN YOU WORK IN [1:47:29] CONNECTION WITH THE MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT. SO I DON'T HAVE AN OPINION OBVIOUSLY ONE WAY OR THE OTHER [1:47:36] ON WHETHER YOU FORM THIS COMMITTEE, MOSTLY JUST WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE A [1:47:44] SIGNIFICANT ROLE TO PLAY IN EITHER PROVIDING, TEACHING, OR [1:47:49] EXECUTING SOME OF THESE PROCESSES. AND SO YOU'RE JUST GOING TO WANT [1:47:54] TO KEEP THAT IN MIND THAT IT'S NOT SORT OF A DIY FROM EVERY [1:48:03] DIRECTION. THERE'S PRACTICES AND LANGUAGE AND STUFF THAT WE'RE GOING TO [1:48:08] WANT TO FOLLOW. SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT AS YOU MOVE ALONG THROUGH [1:48:14] TALKING ABOUT THIS POTENTIAL IDEA. >> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? [1:48:22] COMMISSIONER PALMER. >> INITIALLY I DID STATE THAT IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A DECENT [1:48:28] AMOUNT OF THE GOVERNANCE EXCELLENCE COMMITTEE THAT'S PROPOSED COULD BE MORE TOWARDS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. BUT I AM HEARING FROM THE OTHER [1:48:34] COMMENTS FROM THE OTHER [1:48:40] COMMISSIONERS, I DO THINK IT WOULD BE MUCH MORE OF A PROCESS TO ESTABLISH A COMMITTEE MORE [1:48:45] THAN A WORKING GROUP. ALTHOUGH I SEE THE REASON FOR BOTH OF THEM. I DO SEE THE WORTH IN PURSUING THIS AS A COMMITTEE, TO ENSURE [1:48:51] THAT IT DOES HAVE KIND OF A LONG STANDING EFFECT ON THIS COMMISSION. >> THANK YOU. SO IN A MOMENT -- GO AHEAD. [1:48:59] >> MADAM CLERK. >> APOLOGIES AGAIN. JUST A POINT OF INFORMATION. THANK YOU, CHAIR REEVES. [1:49:08] AND JUST SAYING, IN THE SORT OF SPIRIT OF YOUR ABILITY TO MAKE RULES AND GOVERN YOURSELF, IT [1:49:16] CERTAINLY, I THINK THERE IS PROBABLY SOME REAL VALUE FROM WHAT I HEAR YOU ALL SAYING ABOUT [1:49:24] TALKING ABOUT WE CAN MAKE AVAILABLE ALL OF THE INFORMATION IN THE WORLD AND HOW YOU CONSUME [1:49:30] IT THOUGH IS UP TO YOU. I DO THINK THERE'S PROBABLY SOME ROOM FOR YOU ALL TO CREATE SOME [1:49:36] PARAMETERS AND ALL OF THAT FOR YOUR BODY. SO HOW YOU TAKE IN TRAINING, NEW [1:49:42] INFORMATION, ONBOARDING, THINGS LIKE THAT, IS WHAT THAT [1:49:50] INFORMATION IS PROBABLY HEAVILY IS GOING TO COME BOTH FROM THE CIVIL RIGHTS STAFF AND THE CIVIL CLERK'S OFFICE BECAUSE WE HAVE [1:49:56] PROCESSES AND UNIFORM INFORMATION IN PLACE. BUT HOW YOU ALL CONSUME THAT INFORMATION AND WHAT YOU REQUIRE [1:50:01] OF EACH OTHER, CERTAINLY I THINK THERE'S SOME ROOM TO ENGAGE ON PUTTING SOME THINGS IN YOUR [1:50:07] RULES AROUND THAT AND SO JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY ON THAT POINT. >> THANK YOU. [1:50:15] COMMISSIONER SCHANFIELD. >> THANK YOU. IN THE SPIRIT OF COLLABORATION AND SHARED LANGUAGE, WHAT IT [1:50:21] SOUNDS LIKE AND I REALLY WANT TO APPRECIATE THE DISCUSSION. I THINK THIS IS THE MOST SORT OF ELABORATE DISCUSSION THAT WE'VE [1:50:27] HAD. AND I APPRECIATE, COMMISSIONER PALMER, YOU SAYING I'VE CHAINED MY MIND. THAT'S REALLY WELCOMED AND AS WE [1:50:34] BUILD ON EACH OTHER'S IDEAS. HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET TO THE STRONGEST IDEA. [1:50:39] WHAT I'VE HEARD HAS BEEN REALLY CLEAR AND ARTICULATED, WHAT I'M GOING TO PROPOSE, AND I'M GOING [1:50:45] TO SAY PROPOSE NOT MOTION UNTIL WE'RE READY FOR A MOTION, WHAT I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE IS THAT WE START WITH A WORK GROUP, AND THE [1:50:51] TASK OF THE WORK GROUP IS TO DECIDE THIS, TO DECIDE IS THERE ENOUGH WORK FOR A COMMITTEE, OR [1:50:56] IS THIS GOING TO BE HERE'S HOW WE'RE GOING TO ENGAGE AND THE NOTES WE'VE TAKEN FROM TONIGHT [1:51:02] AND THAT'S THE FINITE TASK. BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO BUILD ON THAT OR [1:51:08] MAKE IT MORE ARTICULATE BEFORE [1:51:14] WE HAVE A MOTION. >> I DON'T WANT TO SAY YOUR NAME, I KNOW -- >> MIKE. [1:51:19] >> MIKE. APPRECIATE IT. >> LOOKING AT THIS, IT'S [1:51:25] THINKING ABOUT HOW WE MIGHT HAVE A WORK GROUP AND BREAK THINGS DOWN. [1:51:30] IT WOULD BE DEFINITELY LIKE PART ONE IS TRY TO DOCUMENT GOVERNANCE NEEDS AND KIND OF [1:51:36] CLARIFY, DEFINE WHAT SOME OF THOSE NEEDS ARE. AND THEN WE COULD BRING THAT TO THE GROUP. [1:51:42] AND THEN PART TWO WOULD BE MORE OF LIKE AN EVALUATION AND RECOMMENDATION OF NEXT STEPS. [1:51:48] AND LIKE THAT WOULD BE RELATIVELY SHORT TERM, AND WE COULD COME BACK WITH A LOT OF [1:51:53] QUESTIONS, LIKE THESE ARE THE THINGS WE CAN'T FIGURE OUT WITHIN THIS GROUP SO WE GIVE OURSELVES KIND OF THE OUT THERE, [1:51:59] BUT WE CAN HAVE A LIMITED TERM, LIMITED MEETING, KIND OF COME IN [1:52:05] AND JUST START DOING SOMETHING AND IT'S I LIKE THE QUOTE, A GOOD DECISION TODAY IS BETTER [1:52:11] THAN A GREAT DECISION TOMORROW. AND IT'S THIS IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING TO GET US MOVING IN [1:52:18] THAT RIGHT DIRECTION DOING ANYTHING AND THEN KIND OF FROM THERE WE CAN FIGURE OUT OKAY, [1:52:23] WHAT ARE THOSE MORE PERMANENT STEPS, WHAT IS THAT COMMITTEE, [1:52:28] WHAT IS THAT BIANNUAL REVIEW OF A WORK GROUP, THERE'S MAYBE DIFFERENT STRATEGIES WE COULD [1:52:34] RECOMMEND. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. [1:52:44] >> I'M GOING TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO PAGE EIGHT. [1:52:51] WHAT YOU'LL SEE HERE IS THE BOTTOM TWO ROWS, THE TWO ITEMS [1:52:57] OF ACTION YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN FROM PPRR AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, ABOVE THAT THERE'S A BLANK THEORY OF ACTION. [1:53:04] ESSENTIALLY HOW WE WORK EFFECTIVELY TOGETHER TO CARRY OUT THE WORK OF THE COMMISSION. SO THE PROPOSAL I'D LIKE TO MAKE [1:53:11] IS THAT A WORK GROUP BE ASSIGNED THE TASK OF FIGURING OUT WHAT IS [1:53:19] THE WORK AND DO WE NEED A COMMITTEE OR IS THE WORK GROUP THERE TO DEFINE THE WORK AND A [1:53:25] THEORY OF ACTION. DOES THAT -- >> DO YOU WANT TO PROPOSE IT IN A MOTION? [1:53:30] >> YEP. I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE WE HAVE A WORK GROUP -- A TEMPORARY WORK GROUP TO FIGURE OUT IF WE NEED A [1:53:37] COMMITTEE FOR GOVERNANCE EXCELLENCE. >> IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECONDED. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND. [1:53:43] IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? [1:53:51] OKAY. SEEING SOMEBODY. COMMISSIONER NEWMAN. >> SORRY, I JUST THOUGHT OF SOMETHING. [1:53:58] THAT IF IT'S IN THIS WORK GROUP THAT WHATEVER THE WE'RE CREATING THAT WE'RE ABLE TO PARTNER MAYBE [1:54:05] WITH KEVIN CARLISSI, IS THAT HIS LAST NAME? >> CARLISLE. [1:54:10] >> CARLISLE. BECAUSE I KNOW HE'S IN THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PIECE. >> HE'S ACTUALLY IN A DIFFERENT [1:54:16] POSITION NOW. >> WHO GAVE HIM A JOB? I'M JUST SAYING, SOMEONE ON THE [1:54:23] INSIDE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT PIECE WITH MPD TO BE ABLE TO CREATE THESE EVENTS AND STUFF [1:54:31] LIKE THAT. >> IF I HOLD THE NEXT PERSON IN THEIR ROLE TO ADDRESS. >> WHOEVER HIS TEAMMATES WERE. [1:54:41] >> NOTED. >> SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, CLERK, IF YOU COULD CALL THE ROLL ON THE MOTION FOR THE WORK [1:54:47] GROUP. >> COMMISSIONER McELHINNEY. [1:54:53] >> LET ME TURN IT ON FOR YOU. >> YEA. [1:54:59] AYE. >> SCHANFIELD. >> YES. >> NEWMAN. >> AYE. >> PALMER. >> AYE. [1:55:04] >> BAKER. >> YES. >> STEWART. >> AYE. [1:55:11] >> CANADAY. >> BA AYE. [1:55:17] >> BARTZ. >> AYE. >> INDRELIE. >> AYE. >> SMITH. >> AYE. >> VICE CHAIR OLSEN. [1:55:22] >> YES. >> AND CHAIR REEVES. >> YES. >> THERE ARE 12 AYES. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A WORK GROUP. [1:55:29] WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO SEND OUT AN EMAIL TO GET VOLUNTEERS FOR THE WORK GROUP SO THAT WE CAN MAKE [1:55:34] SURE WE HAVE QUORUM AND SEE WHO ALL WANTS TO BE ON THAT WORK GROUP? [1:55:41] ALL RIGHT. >> MAY I RESPOND, COMMISSIONER? CHAIR. I WOULD LIKE TO PULL THE NOTES [1:55:46] TOGETHER FROM TONIGHT AND HAVE A CLEANER VERSION FOR PEOPLE TO LOOK AT AND REACT TO AND [1:55:52] HOPEFULLY WE COULD PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA IN THE FOLLOWING MONTHS. COMMITTEES COULD LOOK AT THAT. AND I WANT TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE, [1:55:57] ESPECIALLY AS YOU SPOKE UP TONIGHT, AS YOU FELT PASSIONATE ABOUT SOMETHING, THAT THIS MIGHT BE A GROUP YOU WOULD WANT TO [1:56:03] JOIN AND THAT I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH THE FOLKS WHO ARE NOT HERE. >> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. [1:56:09] NEXT UP, WE HAVE -- >> POINT OF INFORMATION, CHAIR REEVES. >> YES. I JUST ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT [1:56:15] THAT IF YOU JUST NEED TO BE CAUTIOUS OF OPEN MEETING LAW WHEN YOU'RE EMAILING TO THE [1:56:22] WHOLE GROUP. IF PEOPLE START RESPONDING BACK AND FORTH, WE GET INTO A LITTLE BIT OF A SERIAL MEETING [1:56:29] POTENTIAL ISSUE. SO JUST WANT TO BE CAREFUL WITH THAT. AND ALSO PLEASE INCLUDE CIVIL [1:56:35] RIGHTS AND THE CLERK ON THESE CONVOS SO WE CAN SUPPORT. >> POINT OF ORDER THEN, IS THERE [1:56:41] A BETTER WAY TO SAY I'LL SEND OUT INFORMATION, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE -- >> I'M GOING TO ASK ALL [1:56:48] COMMISSIONERS, IF WE HAVE ANY COMMUNICATION SUCH AS THIS, THAT YOU PLEASE BE VERY MINDFUL TO NOT HIT REPLY ALL. [1:56:55] IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ASK SOMETHING OR NEED CLARIFICATION, PLEASE ASK THE SENDER OF THE EMAIL OR REACH OUT TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE. [1:57:01] WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT DOING REPLY ALL. WE ALL SEE COMMUNICATIONS THAT [1:57:06] WENT OUT, BUT PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, DO NOT HIT REPLY ALL. [1:57:12] YOU MIGHT GET A NASTY -- THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> IS THERE A WAY WE COULD ALL [1:57:18] AGREE ON OR THE CLERK'S OFFICE HAS A SUGGESTION WE COULD SUSS [1:57:25] OUT INTEREST THAT'S SEPARATE FROM RECEIVING INFORMATION. IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN SERVING ON THE GOVERNANCE WORK GROUP, [1:57:31] COULD WE HAVE COMMISSIONERS REPORT THAT TO SOMEONE? >> COMMISSIONER SCHANFIELD, ARE YOU SORT OF LEADING THIS? [1:57:36] THEY'RE CERTAINLY WELCOME TO RESPOND INDIVIDUALLY TO YOU. IT MIGHT BE BETTER ACTUALLY FOR [1:57:44] THEM TO SEND THAT INTEREST TO MS. JONG, LUWENDA JONG. [1:57:53] SHE IS YOUR STAFF POINT PERSON. AND I THINK TO AVOID OPEN MEETING LAW, VEERING TOO CLOSE [1:57:59] TO THE SUN, WE MAY WANT TO ORGANIZE THIS TO MS. JONG. >> MAYBE I CAN ASK THIS [1:58:05] QUESTION. IS THERE ANYONE HERE TONIGHT WHO KNOWS THAT THEY MAY BE INTERESTED IN SERVING ON THIS GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE. [1:58:11] OKAY, COMMISSIONER PALMER. COMMISSIONER INDRELIE. [1:58:19] COMMISSIONER CLEMENT IS INTERESTED AS WELL. [1:58:25] PLEASE LET THEM KNOW OF YOUR INTEREST TO SERVE ON THE GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE THAT WAY SHE HAS IT IN WRITING. [1:58:34] ALL RIGHT, SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER SCHANFIELD, JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU WERE DONE [1:58:40] WITH THAT POINT? ALL RIGHT. [1:58:46] WE HAVE 23 MINUTES ON THE AGENDA, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE 50 MINUTES LEFT ALLOTTED. [1:58:53] SO BE MINDFUL OF THAT. >> YES, JUST A REMINDER THAT [1:59:00] THIS DOCUMENT, THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES, ET CETERA, IS A [1:59:05] WORKING DOCUMENT. THIS IS A DRAFT. SO WE WILL, EVERYONE'S VOICE [1:59:11] WILL BE HEARD BEFORE IT'S FINALIZED. >> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER OLSEN. [1:59:16] >> YES, I'LL DIRECT PEOPLE'S ATTENTION TO PAGE SEVEN. PAGE SEVEN. [1:59:26] AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE SEEN THE PREVIOUS VERSIONS OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN, YOU MAY [1:59:31] RECALL THAT WE HAD A ONE-PAGE STATEMENT OF VISION AND MISSION [1:59:37] WITH THREE ITEMS IN IT. AND I'LL JUST GO THROUGH THE [1:59:45] ORIGINAL VERSIONS OF THAT AND THEN THE PROPOSED REVISIONS TO [1:59:50] THAT THAT HAVE COME UP THROUGH THE COMMITTEES. FIRST, THE VISION OF THE CCPO IS [1:59:57] TO BE A MODELED AGENCY THAT EXECUTES POLICE OVERSIGHT AND ACCOUNTABILITY IN AN IMPARTIAL [2:00:03] MANNER THAT ALIGNS WITH THE NATIONAL BEST PRACTICES THAT CONTRIBUTES TO AN EQUITABLE [2:00:08] PUBLIC SAFETY RESPONSE AS THE MINNEAPOLIS POLICE DEPARTMENT SERVES AND INTERACTS WITH THE COMMUNITY. [2:00:16] THERE HAVE BEEN NO CHANGES PROPOSED TO THAT STATEMENT OF [2:00:21] VISION. THE MISSION STATEMENT, OUR MISSION IS TO PROVIDE STRATEGIC AND THOUGHTFUL RECOMMENDATIONS [2:00:26] AND EXCELLENT OVERSIGHT IN SHAPING AND SUSTAINING CONSTITUTIONAL POLICING IN THE [2:00:33] CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS THROUGH EFFECTIVE, EFFICIENT, AND EQUITABLE GOVERNANCES WITH A COMMITMENT TO COLLABORATION AND [2:00:39] ENGAGEMENT WITH OUR DIVERSE AND GROWING COMMUNITY MEMBERS. THE PROPOSED REVISION IS TO [2:00:46] SHORTEN THAT SUBSTANTIALLY AND THIS MISSION WOULD BE TO PROVIDE STRATEGIC RECOMMENDATIONS, [2:00:53] EFFECTIVE DISCIPLINE, AND EXCELLENT COMMUNITY OVERSIGHT IN SHAPING AND SUSTAINING CONSTITUTIONAL POLICING IN THE [2:01:02] CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. FINALLY, THE AUTHORITY WHICH THERE IS NO RECOMMENDED CHANGE, [2:01:08] THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS CREATED THE COMMUNITY COMMISSION ON POLICE OVERSIGHT BY WAY OF ENABLING ORDINANCE SECTIONS [2:01:16] 17.240 AND 172.60. THESE OUTLINE THE COMPOSITION, [2:01:22] QUALIFICATIONS, TRAININGS, REVIEW POWER PROCEDURES, POWERS, REMOVAL, AND ORGANIZATIONAL [2:01:29] STRUCTURE. SO THAT IS THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE [2:01:34] FOR THE NEW MISSION AND VALUES VISION AND MISSION STATEMENT ON THE STRATEGIC PLAN. [2:01:40] AND IF ANYBODY HAS ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT, WE WELCOME THEM NOW. CHAIR REEVES WILL MANAGE THE [2:01:46] DISCUSSION. >> ANY COMMENTS, THOUGHTS, QUESTIONS, CONCERNS ABOUT THE VISION, THE MISSION? [2:01:56] COMMISSIONER CANADAY. >> THIS IS JUST A QUESTION FOR I DON'T KNOW WHAT GROUP PREPARED THIS PROPOSED REVISION TO THE [2:02:04] MISSION STATEMENT, BUT I JUST WANT TO I GUESS CONFIRM MY ASSUMPTION BASED ON READING THEM [2:02:09] IS THE POINT JUST TO MAKE A MORE READABLE AND CONCISE MISSION STATEMENT THAT STILL COVERS THE [2:02:16] SAME BREADTH AS THE ORIGINAL VERSION OR IS THERE ANY INTENT TO CHANGE THE MISSION OF THE [2:02:26] COMMISSION? >> I THINK IT'S MUCH MORE THE FORMER THAN THE LATTER. [2:02:32] >> COMMISSIONER SMITH. YOUR MICROPHONE. THANK YOU. >> MADAM CHAIR, COMMISSIONER [2:02:38] CANADAY, ONE OBSERVATION I HAVE IS THAT THE PREVIOUS STATEMENT OF THE MISSION MADE NO REFERENCE TO THE DISCIPLINARY PROCESS. [2:02:43] AND SO BY ADDING THE PHRASE EFFECTIVE DISCIPLINE, IT [2:02:48] HIGHLIGHTS THAT ONE OF OUR MAJOR PARTS OF OUR MISSION IS TO BE INVOLVED IN THE DISCIPLINARY PANELS. [2:02:55] >> ANYONE ELSE? COMMISSIONER PALMER. [2:03:00] >> I DID NOTICE THAT THE REVISED MISSION STATEMENT HERE DOES NOT [2:03:07] INCLUDE, IN THE PREVIOUS ONE IT SAID COMMITMENT TO COLLABORATION AND ENGAGEMENT WITH OUR DIVERSE [2:03:12] AND GROWING COMMUNITY MEMBERS. THE REVISED VISION STATEMENT DOES NOT INCLUDE MUCH ABOUT [2:03:18] ENGAGEMENT WITH COMMUNITY. AND I THINK THAT IS A LITTLE BIT CONCERNING AS WE ARE THE [2:03:23] COMMUNITY COMMISSION ON POLICE OVERSIGHT. THAT WE SHOULD BE VERY ACTIVE AND INVOLVED WITH THE COMMUNITY [2:03:29] OF MINNEAPOLIS AND THAT SHOULD BE HIGHLIGHTED IN OUR MISSION STATEMENT. [2:03:38] >> THANK YOU FOR THE FEEDBACK. ONE THOUGHT IN TERMS OF IF WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THE PYRAMID, SO [2:03:43] IF WE'RE AT THE VERY TOP OF THE PYRAMID WHICH IS THE VISION, WHY WE'RE DOING THIS WORK, THE NEXT [2:03:50] LAYER DOWN IS WHAT WE DO AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IS MORE [2:03:56] IMPORTANT THAN WHAT WE DO. IT'S HOW WE'RE DOING THE WORK. SO THE IDEA WAS THAT THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PIECE IS [2:04:02] COVERED IN ALL THREE, GOVERNANCE EXCELLENCE, THE ACTUAL COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT COMMITTEE, AND ALSO THE PPRR, THE POLICY REVIEW, [2:04:08] THAT WE DO THAT ALONGSIDE COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND PERHAPS WE CAN MAKE THAT MORE CLEAR IN THE [2:04:14] LANGUAGE. BUT THAT IT WAS TAKEN OUT NOT TO REMOVE THE COMMUNITY AT ALL, BUT IN FACT TO MAKE IT MORE [2:04:20] OPERATIONAL IN THE NEXT LAYER DOWN IN THE PYRAMID. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER SMITH. [2:04:27] >> MADAM CHAIR, IN RESPONSE TO COMMISSIONER PALMER'S COMMENT, WHICH I APPRECIATE, WE COULD [2:04:34] MAKE ONE WORD CHANGE IF WE SAID [2:04:40] ENGAGED COMMUNITY OVERSIGHT RATHER THAN EXCELLENT, IT WOULD AT LEAST PUT THE WORDS COMMUNITY [2:04:47] ENGAGEMENT OR ENGAGE CLOSE WITH EACH OTHER AND TO ME IT WOULD [2:04:52] INFER OR SIGNAL THAT WE DO THIS WORK BY BEING ENGAGED WITH THE COMMUNITY. [2:05:00] >> SO IT WOULD READ OUR MISSION IS TO PROVIDE STRATEGIC RECOMMENDATIONS, EFFECTIVE DISCIPLINE, AND ENGAGED [2:05:07] COMMUNITY OVERSIGHT IN SHAPING AND SUSTAINING CONSTITUTIONAL POLICING IN THE CITY OF [2:05:16] MINNEAPOLIS. IS THERE ANY ISSUE WITH THAT CHANGE, ANY SUGGESTIONS? [2:05:24] IN THE PURPOSES OF TIME, IF WE'RE ALL IN FAVOR OF ADDING [2:05:31] ENGAGED INSTEAD OF EXCELLENT, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. [CHORUS OF AYES] [2:05:38] >> ANY OPPOSED? ABSTENTIONS? ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR THOUGHTS ON THIS SECTION? [2:05:45] OKAY. SO, DO WE HAVE AGREEMENT ON OUR MISSION STATEMENT? SOUNDS LIKE WE DO. OKAY. [2:05:53] ALL RIGHT. [2:06:02] I HAVE COMMISSIONER SCHANFIELD AND COMMISSIONER SMITH ON THE NEXT ITEM OF FLESHING OUT THE STRATEGIC GOAL. [2:06:10] YES, IN LIGHT OF THE DECISION AROUND A WORK GROUP, I THINK WE WOULD JUST WANT TO LET'S JUST TALK BRIEFLY HERE ABOUT WHEN AND [2:06:16] WHERE THAT THAT CAN HAPPEN. SO INTEREST WILL BE EXPRESSED TO MS. JONG OVER EMAIL. [2:06:24] AND THEN I GUESS THE QUESTION FOR THE GROUP IS DO WE THINK THAT GROUP, HOW QUICKLY DO WE [2:06:32] THINK THAT GROUP CAN MEET AND THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR THE CITY TO ANSWER BECAUSE THEY NEED TO STAFF, FIND A ROOM, ET [2:06:38] CETERA. A WORK GROUP, IT COULD BE VIRTUAL. >> SO IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO [2:06:44] COORDINATE THAT IN TERMS OF WHO'S EXPRESSED INTEREST AND THEN SHE CAN HELP US FIGURE OUT [2:06:49] HOW TO GET IT SCHEDULED. SO IF THAT WORKS FOR EVERYONE AND HOPEFULLY BY THE NEXT [2:06:55] MEETING, THAT WILL HAVE BEEN DETERMINED OF HOW YOU'RE GOING TO SCHEDULE THIS WORK GROUP. >> YEAH, SO BY THE NEXT TIME. [2:07:00] >> YEAH. >> OKAY, AND MAY I DO A QUICK PIECE AND WE WILL YIELD THE REST [2:07:06] OF THE TIME, EXCITING. MY HOPE I SHARED AT THE [2:07:12] BEGINNING IS THAT IF SOMEONE IN THE ELEVATOR ASKED YOU WHAT WE DO ON THE WAY OUT TONIGHT THAT [2:07:17] YOU'D BE ABLE TO SAY WE CONTRIBUTE TO MEANINGFUL AND EFFECTIVE CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT [2:07:23] THROUGH GOVERNANCE EXCELLENCE, TAKING CARE OF OURSELVES AND HOW WE ENGAGE THROUGH COMMUNITY [2:07:31] ENGAGEMENT AND PROVIDING SUBSTANTIVE RECOMMENDATIONS TO MPD. HOW DOES THAT SOUND? [2:07:36] I THINK THE MISSING PIECE THERE IS AROUND PROCEDURAL JUSTICE, THAT WAS THE MOST RECENT TRAINING WE HAD. [2:07:41] SO I GUESS I WOULD ADD WE CARRY OUT OUR WORK BY MODELING THE [2:07:47] TENANTS OF PROCEDURAL JUSTICE, TRUST, RESPECT, NEUTRALITY, VOICE, AND TRUSTWORTHINESS. [2:07:54] YOU COULD SAY THESE THINGS IN ANY ORDER. BUT IF THERE'S ANYTHING IN THAT PEOPLE FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE WITH, [2:07:59] THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR ME TO KNOW AS WE CLOSE. >> ANY COMMENTS ON THAT? >> I HAVE A COMMENT. >> COMMISSIONER STEWART. [2:08:04] >> I THINK JUST TO KEEP IT EASY, SIMPLE, AND CLEAN, IF WE WERE ALL JUST TO STATE OUR MISSION BECAUSE IF WE GO BACK TO OUR [2:08:13] BYLAWS, WE ARE NOT AS A BODY TO ADDRESS, WE ARE TO TAKE BACK OUR CONCERNS AND HAVE OUR CHAIR AND [2:08:22] CO-CHAIR AS OUR SPOKESPEOPLE TO ADDRESS. SO I THINK THAT IF WE ALL STAYED [2:08:28] VERY CLEAR AND CLEAN TO JUST OUR [2:08:34] MISSION STATEMENT AS OUR REFLECTION BACK OR OUR ANSWER TO IF SOMEONE IN THE COMMUNITY SAID WHAT IS IT THAT YOU DO, WE JUST [2:08:42] ALL KIND OF SOMEHOW IF IT WERE JUST SAY THE MISSION STATEMENT, AND THEN GET THEIR CONTACT [2:08:48] INFORMATION, EMAIL OUR CHAIR AND CO-CHAIR AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE COPYING OUR DIRECTORS AND [2:08:53] THE CITY CLERK AND THE CITY ATTORNEY ON WHATEVER IS BROUGHT TO US IN THAT ELEVATOR. [2:09:00] AND THAT WAY WE ARE STEERED CLEAN OF NOT BREAKING OUR BYLAWS. [2:09:08] >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M NOT [2:09:14] MISSING ANYBODY. >> LOVE IT. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. SO WE HAVE A PLAN THAT'S A [2:09:21] WORKING DOCUMENT. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A WORKING GROUP FOR GOVERNANCE. WE ARE GOING TO EMAIL WITH OUR [2:09:28] INTEREST AND WE'RE GOING TO KEEP BRINGING UP IDEAS IN THIS WORKING DOCUMENT. SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE. [2:09:33] ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, YOU GUYS. I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S COMMENTS. THIS WAS A VERY GOOD DISCUSSION. AND I APPRECIATE THE MOTION [2:09:39] MAKER AT THE LAST MEETING. I CAN'T RECALL WHO IT WAS TO HAVE THIS, I THINK IT WAS [2:09:44] COMMISSIONER SMITH TO HAVE A FURTHER DETAILED DISCUSSION ON THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND IT'S BEEN [2:09:49] VERY HELPFUL. SO THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. [2:09:54] LET ME SEE. NEW BUSINESS. WE'RE GETTING THERE, Y'ALL. [2:10:00] OUR NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS NEW BUSINESS. THE NEXT ITEM IS THE REFERRAL OF MINNEAPOLIS POLICE DEPARTMENT [2:10:08] PROPOSED POLICE POLICY 2-203 [2:10:14] EARLY INTERVENTION SYSTEMS COMMENTS. ALL RIGHT. [2:10:22] COMMISSIONER SCHANFIELD. >> I BELIEVE -- I'M SORRY, WHICH NUMBER? >> NINE. >> THANK YOU. [2:10:29] I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TONIGHT, WHAT WE WERE TOLD IN OUR JUNE MEETING BY THE [2:10:36] IMPLEMENTATION UNIT AND THE CITY ATTORNEY IS THE NEXT POLICY BEING REVIEWED IS THE EIS POLICY. IT DOESN'T REALLY EXIST, IT'S [2:10:43] JUST A SMALL PARAGRAPH, BUT THERE'S TONS OF LANGUAGE IN THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT AND THE CONSENT DECREE THAT THEY'LL HAVE [2:10:50] TO FOLLOW. SO THE MOTION -- THE CHALLENGES, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THAT'S ONLY 30 DAYS. AND SO WE HAVE A MEETING ON [2:10:57] JULY 28TH AS THE PPRR, THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE DUE BY THE END OF JULY. SO THE MOTION IS WOULD IT BE ALL [2:11:07] RIGHT, WOULD THE BODY ALLOW US TO SUBMIT ON BEHALF OF THE BODY, WE WOULD SUBMIT A COPY TO [2:11:14] EVERYONE, BUT OTHERWISE WE HAVE TO SUBMIT IT INDIVIDUALLY AND NOT AS THE COMMISSION, AND IT CARRIES A DIFFERENT WEIGHT. [2:11:19] WE HOPE AS PPRR, WE'VE STARTED TO EARN YOUR TRUST IN THE LEVEL OF DETAIL THAT WE REVIEW THE [2:11:25] POLICIES AS YOU'VE SEEN OUR WORK SO FAR. SO HOPE YOU WOULD CONSIDER. >> COULD YOU RESTATE THE MOTION [2:11:32] SUCCINCTLY FOR ME FOR THE NOTES. >> LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION SO THAT [2:11:37] PPRR CAN SUBMIT RECOMMENDATIONS DIRECTLY TO THE IMPLEMENTATION [2:11:43] UNIT THIS MONTH AROUND THE EIS POLICY. >> IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND. [2:11:48] >> THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT, CLERK, IF YOU CAN CALL THE ROLL ON THAT MOTION, [2:12:02] PLEASE. >> COMMISSIONER McELHINNEY. >> YEA. >> SCHANFIELD. [2:12:08] >> YES. >> NEWMAN. >> AYE. >> PALMER. >> AYE. [2:12:13] >> BAKER. >> AYE. >> STEWART. >> AYE. [2:12:18] >> CANADAY. >> AYE. >> BARTZ. >> YES. >> INDRELIE. [2:12:24] >> AYE. >> SMITH. >> AYE. >> VICE CHAIR OLSEN. [2:12:29] >> YES. >> AND CHAIR REEVES. >> YES. >> THERE ARE 12 AYES. >> ALL RIGHT. [2:12:34] THANK YOU. SEEING THAT THAT PASSED, THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE ARE REFERRED TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. [2:12:41] THE FINAL ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS AMENDING THE CCPO CALENDAR TO RESCHEDULE THE OCTOBER MEETING. [2:12:47] THIS MEETING LAYS THE SAME WEEK AS THE NACOLE CONFERENCE AND NEEDS TO BE RESCHEDULED SO WE [2:12:52] WOULD BE ABLE TO ATTEND THE CONFERENCE. WE CURRENTLY HAVE LIMITED OPTIONS DUE TO OTHER COMMITTEES THAT NEED TO BE BROADCAST IN [2:12:57] THESE CHAMBERS. WE WOULD BE ABLE TO RESCHEDULE TO EITHER WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 15TH, OR TUESDAY [2:13:04] OCTOBER 21ST AT 6:00 P.M. WE ALSO HAVE THE OPTION TO CANCEL THIS MEETING IF WE DON'T THINK [2:13:09] WE CAN GET QUORUM EITHER OF THOSE DAYS. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION FROM THE COMMITTEE? COMMISSIONER BAKER. [2:13:17] >> OCTOBER 15TH IS MEA WEEKEND, SO FOR ANY OF US WHO ARE [2:13:24] PARENTS, IT MAY BE A CHALLENGING -- >> OKAY. COMMISSIONER STEWART. [2:13:29] >> I THINK THAT WE SHOULD DEFINITELY MEET BEFORE NACOLE [2:13:35] WHICH WOULD BE THE OCTOBER 15TH FOR THOSE OF US THAT COULD MEET. [2:13:41] BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE IMPERATIVE THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE AS WE WILL ALL BE [2:13:47] REPRESENTING OUR OVERSIGHT. >> IF I CAN RECALL, THE 21st [2:13:54] ALSO IS BEFORE THE CONFERENCE. [2:14:01] COMMISSIONER PALMER. >> FOR ME PERSONALLY, I WOULD PERSONALLY SPEAK IN FAVOR OF SCHEDULING THIS ON OCTOBER 15TH. [2:14:08] AS FOR ME PERSONALLY, I ALREADY HAVE SOMETHING SCHEDULED ON THE [2:14:14] 21st AT THAT TIME. >> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? [2:14:25] WOULD SOMEONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR ONE OF THOSE DAYS? [2:14:32] >> I WOULD. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO RESCHEDULE OUR OCTOBER MEETING TO WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 15TH. [2:14:37] >> OKAY. IS THERE A SECOND? >> I SECOND. >> OKAY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON OCTOBER 15TH? [2:14:45] ALL RIGHT, CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON THAT MOTION, PLEASE. [2:14:51] >> COMMISSIONER McELHINNEY. >> AYE. >> SCHANFIELD. >> AYE. >> NEWMAN. [2:14:56] >> AYE. >> PALMER. >> AYE. [2:15:01] >> BAKER. >> NAY. >> STEWART. >> AYE. [2:15:08] >> CANADAY. >> AYE. >> BARTZ. >> YES. [2:15:13] >> INDRELIE. >> NAY. >> SMITH. >> AYE. [2:15:20] >> VICE CHAIR OLSEN. >> YES. >> AND CHAIR REEVES. >> YES. >> THERE ARE TEN AYES AND TWO [2:15:27] NAYS. >> ALL RIGHT, SO WE NOW HAVE A NEW DATE FOR OUR OCTOBER MEETING, OCTOBER 15, 2025, [2:15:33] 6:00 P.M. IN THIS CHAMBER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. [2:15:39] WITH THAT, WE'VE COMPLETED ALL ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA FOR THIS MEETING. WITHOUT ANY OBJECTION, THE [2:15:44] COMMISSION STANDS ADJOURNED. HAVE A GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. THANK YOU.