[0:16] >> GOOD AFTERNOON. WELCOME TO THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE CLIMATE AND INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE FOR JULY 17, 2025. I'M [0:23] KATIE CASHMAN CHAIRMAN OF THIS COMMITTEE. BEFORE WE CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER, I WANT TO OFFER A FRIENDLY REMINDER TO ALL [0:31] MEMBERS AND STAFF THAT THESE MEETINGS ARE BROADCAST LIVE TO ENABLE GREATER PUBLIC [0:37] PARTICIPATION. FURTHER METHOD TO INCREASE THE ACCESSIBILITY OF OUR PROCEEDINGS TO THE COMMUNITY. THEREFORE, ALL [0:42] SPEAKERS NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF THE RATE OF THEIR SPEECH SO THAT CAPTIONERS CAN FULLY CAPTURE AND [0:48] TRANSCRIBE ALL COMMENTS FOR THE BROADCAST. THANK YOU. THIS TIME I'LL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL ROLL [0:56] TO VERIFY A QUORUM. [1:01] >> COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ. >> PRESENT. >> CHOWDHURY. >> PRESENT. >> VICE CHAIR KOSKI. >> PRESENT. >> CHAIR CASHMAN. [1:07] >> PRESENT. >> WE HAVE FIVE PRESENT. >> THANKS SO MUCH, CLERK MICHAEL. AND WELCOME TO THIS [1:12] COMMITTEE AS WELL. WE'RE SO HAPPY TO HAVE YOU. WE'LL START WITH THE CONSENT AGENDA, ITEMS [1:21] 3-9. THREE IS PASSAGE OF A RESOLUTION. WELCOME, COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN IS HERE WITH US AS WELL. ITEM 3 IS PASSAGE OF A [1:28] RESOLUTION ACCEPTING A GRANT FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FOR THE [1:40] SOUTH- SOUTH-FOLWELL. ITEM TWO IS RESILIENCY GRANT FOR FLOOD [1:45] MITIGATION PROJECT, AND AUTHORIZING AN AGREEMENT FOR THAT GRANT. ITEM 5 IS PASSAGE OF A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING A LOCAL [1:55] ROAD IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM GRANT FROM THE MINNESOTA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FOR ADA RAMPS IN THE SHINGLE CREEK RESIDENTIAL [2:00] PROJECT, AND AUTHORIZING AN AGREEMENT FOR THAT GRANT. SIX IS APPROVING AN APPOINTMENT TO THE [2:07] PEDESTRIAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE. THANK YOU SO ALL THE RESIDENTS THAT APPLIED FOR THIS CITY BOARD. ITEM 7 IS APPROVING [2:18] RENEWAL OF THE PILOT PROGRAM FOR DELIVERY DEVICES. ITEM 8 IS [2:27] WALKER ART CENTER AVANT GARDEN EVENT. NINE IS APPROVING TRAFFIC [2:34] SAFETY CAMERA PILOT FRAMEWORK. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? SEEING NONE, [2:40] I'LL MOVE APPROVAL OF ALL ITEMS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE. >> THOSE OPPOSED SAY NAY. ANY [2:47] ABSTENTIONS? AYES HAVE IT. THOSE ITEMS ARE APPROVED. NEXT UP WE WILL TAKE UP OUR PUBLIC HEARING [2:53] ITEMS. FIRST UP IS AN AMENDMENT [3:00] RELATED TO THE SPECIAL DISTRICTS ADVISORY BOARD COMPOSITION ORDINANCE. THIS INCLUDES [3:07] DINKYTOWN, CENTRAL AVENUE, LINDEN HILLS, EAST LAKE AND LYNDALE-LAKE. -- BEFORE OPENING [3:16] THE PUBLIC HEARING. WELCOME. >> THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, [3:21] CHAIR CASHMAN, MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. I'M DAVID BAUER, PROJECT MANAGER TO THE CITY'S [3:29] SPECIAL DISTRICTS. SET OF ORDINANCES RELATED TO [3:34] COMPOSITION ADVISORY BOARDS FOR SEVERAL OF OUR DISTRICTS. THESE PROPOSED CHANGES ARE INTENDED TO [3:41] IMPROVE THE FUNCTIONALITY AND CONSISTENCY BY LINING BOARD SIZES WITH REALISTIC LEVELS OF [3:49] COMMUNITY PARTICIPATION. BOARDS MADE UP OF LOCAL PROPERTY OWNERS [3:55] WITH GUIDANCE. WHILE MANY HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN RECRUITING AND RETAINING BOARD MEMBERS, [4:00] SEVERAL HAVE EXPERIENCED ONGOING CHALLENGES. ONE OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT OPERATIONAL HURDLES [4:06] IS WHEN A BOARD CANNOT MEET QUORUM TO CONDUCT OFFICIAL BUSINESS. WHEN QUORUM IS NOT [4:11] MET, MEETINGS MUST BE RESCHEDULED, DELAYING DECISION MAKING AND IMPACTING THE [4:16] DISTRICT'S ABILITY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH PROGRESS OR RESPOND TO NEEDS IN A TIMELY MATTER. [4:23] RECOMMENDING THE FOLLOWING ORDINANCE TO REDUCE THE FOLLOWING NUMBER OF SEATS. THE FOLLOWING IS SUMMARY OF THE [4:29] PROPOSED DISTRICT SEAT AMENDMENTS. DINKYTOWN WILL CHANGE FROM FIVE TO THREE. CENTRAL FROM NINE TO SEVEN. [4:36] LINDEN HILLS FROM FIVE TO THREE. EAST LAKE FROM FIVE TO THREE. AND LYNDALE-LAKE ALSO FROM FIVE [4:44] TO THREE. THESE ADJUSTMENTS WILL HELP ENSURE THAT BOARDS WILL [4:50] MEET QUORUM RELIABLY. AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THESE CHANGES WILL NOT LIMIT COMMUNITY [4:56] ENGAGEMENT OR TRANSPARENCY. ALL MEETINGS ARE PUBLIC MEETINGS. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE [5:02] WELCOME TO ATTEND AND ALL MEETINGS ARE NOTICED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. WE ALSO OBSERVE [5:08] TIME ON EACH AGENDA FOR A PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MR. BAUER, FOR THE [5:17] PRESENTATION. I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK IF ANYONE HAS SIGNED UP. >> MADAM CHAIR, WE HAVE NOT [5:22] RECEIVED ANYONE TO SIGN UP. >> IS THERE ANYONE HERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, I [5:28] WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION FROM COMMITTEE MEMBERS? OKAY. THANK [5:38] YOU. WITH THAT, I WILL MOVE APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE. >> THOSE OPPOSED SAY NAY. ANY [5:46] ABSTENTIONS? THE MOTION CARRIES. OUR NEXT PUBLIC HEARING IS AN [5:52] AMENDMENT ELIMINATING THE SUNSET PROVISION FOR THE WEST BROADWAY IMPROVEMENT SPECIAL SERVICE [5:57] DISTRICT. WELCOMING BACK MR. BAUER TO PROVIDE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THIS CHANGE BEFORE [6:03] WE HAVE THE NEXT PUBLIC HEARING. >> HELLO AGAIN, CHAIR CASHMAN, [6:09] MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. DAVID BAUER, PROJECT MANAGER TO THE CITY SPECIAL SERVICE DISTRICTS. [6:14] I'M INTRODUCING A PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE ORDINANCE GOVERNING THE WEST BROADWAY [6:22] SPECIAL SERVICE DISTRICTS. SUNSET PROVISIONS ARE A POLICY REQUIREMENT THE CITY APPLIES TO [6:28] SELF-MANAGE SPECIAL SERVICE DISTRICTS TO ESTABLISH A FORMAL CHECK AND BALANCE BETWEEN THE [6:34] DISTRICT'S REPAIRS AND MANAGEMENT ENTITY. STRUCTURED OPPORTUNITY TO EVALUATE WHETHER A SELF-MANAGED DISTRICT [6:40] CONTINUES TO OPERATE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF STAKEHOLDERS AND ALIGNS WITH CITY GOALS. FURTHER, [6:46] THESE PROVISIONS PROMPT FORMAL RENEWAL PROCESSES, STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT, AND REAUTHORIZATION [6:52] AT DESIGNATED INTERVALS. THE WEST BROADWAY SPECIAL SERVICE DISTRICT TRANSITIONED FROM A [6:58] SELF-MANAGEMENT MODEL TO CITY MANAGE IN 2020. THE WEST BROADWAY SSD HAS BEEN OPERATING [7:06] UNDER MANAGEMENT. CITY STAFF HAVE CONDUCTED ENGAGEMENT [7:12] EFFORTS TO ASSESS SERVICE DISTRICT DELIVERY AND GOVERNANCE PREFERENCES MOVING FORWARD. THE CLEAR CONSENSUS FROM THESE [7:21] DISCUSSIONS IS TO CONTINUE OPERATING WITH MANAGEMENT FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE. IF THERE [7:28] IS A FUTURE DESIRE TO RETURN THE DISTRICT TO SELF-MANAGE, THE [7:34] CITY CAN INTRODUCE SUNSET AT THAT TIME. CURRENT OPERATING REALITY ALIGNS WITH CITY POLICY [7:41] AND ENSURES CLARITY FOR ALL STAKEHOLDERS. THANK YOU. >> GREAT. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. I'LL NOW OPEN THE [7:47] PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM TO SEE IF ANYONE HAS SIGNED UP. >> MADAM CHAIR, WE HAVE HAD NO [7:53] PEOPLE SIGN UP FOR THIS ITEM. >> ANYONE HERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? SEEING NONE, I'LL CLOSE [7:59] THE PUBLIC HEARING. ASK IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE MEMBERS. SEEING NONE, I WILL [8:05] MOVE APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE. >> THOSE OPPOSED SAY NAY. ANY [8:12] ABSTENTIONS? THE MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU, MR. BAUER FOR THE SMART CHANGES. OUR NEXT ITEM IS [8:22] TO RECEIVE AND FILE AN UPDATE TO TRAFFIC SAFETY CAMERAS, SPECIFICALLY THE 2025 LOCATION [8:27] ANALYSIS. AND HERE IS MR. ETHAN FAWLEY TO INTRODUCE THIS ITEM AND PRESENT. [8:33] >> HELLO, CHAIR CASHMAN, MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. MY NAME IS [8:39] ETHAN FAWLEY. GREAT TO BE HERE AGAIN WITH YOU ALL TODAY. GOING [8:49] TO PROVIDE A VERY BRIEF OVERVIEW. WE'LL SHARE THE LATEST ON TIMELINE, AND I'M GOING TO [8:55] SHARE DETAILS AROUND OUR LOCATION ANALYSIS AND OUR INITIAL PLANNED LOCATIONS. BEFORE I DO THAT, I DO WANT TO [9:03] RECOGNIZE I'M THE ONE WHO GETS TO COME SHARE THESE DETAILS WITH [9:09] YOU ALL BUT THERE ARE MANY, MANY OTHERS WHO ARE DOING AMAZING WORK AROUND THIS PILOT AND OTHER [9:14] WORK AROUND TRAFFIC SAFETY AS WELL. SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE TO RECOGNIZE THE STAFF ACROSS [9:20] MANY CITY DEPARTMENTS WHO HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH ALL THIS WORK AND ARE INVOLVED IN MAKING SURE [9:27] THIS PILOT CAN LAUNCH. AND IT INCLUDES MY COLLEAGUE KRISTIAN [9:32] ZIMMERMAN WHO IS HERE AND WAS THE LEAD STAFF ON THE LOCATION ANALYSIS THAT I'M PRESENTING ON TODAY. SO JUST A REMINDER THAT [9:44] TRAFFIC SAFETY CAMERA WORK IS COMING OUT OF OUR CITY'S ZERO ACTION PLAN. AND THIS IS JUST [9:52] ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE DOING TO GET TOWARDS THAT GOAL, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING SPECIFICALLY WITH A FOCUS ON [9:58] ADDRESSING UNSAFE SPEEDING, WHICH IS OUR BIGGEST TRAFFIC SAFETY CHALLENGE IN MINNEAPOLIS. [10:05] FOR THE TRAFFIC SAFETY CAMERA PILOT IN PARTICULAR, A REMINDER ON OUR GOALS THAT OBVIOUSLY [10:12] WE'RE TRYING TO IMPROVE TRAFFIC SAFETY. BUT THAT ALONE IS NOT ENOUGH TO FOR THIS PILOT TO BE [10:18] SUCCESSFUL. WE ALSO HAVE TO BUILD COMMUNITY TRUST BY PROTECTING PRIVACY, DOING IT [10:25] EFFICIENTLY. THIS COMES OUT OF STATE LAW LAST YEAR THAT AUTHORIZED THIS PILOT AND ALSO [10:32] REGULATES IT. THAT STATE LAW IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR PROTECTING FOR A LOT OF THOSE GOALS WE JUST TALKED ABOUT. WE ARE CURRENTLY [10:43] PLANNING TO LAUNCH THE PILOT IN SEPTEMBER. WE'RE WORKING WITH [10:49] OUR CONTRACTOR NOVOAGLOBAL TO FINALIZE THE EXACT DATE AND HOPE [10:54] TO HAVE THAT PUBLICLY SOON. WE ALSO THIS WEEK HAVE STARTED A PUBLIC INFORMATION CAMPAIGN TO MAKE SURE THAT FOLKS ARE AWARE [11:01] ABOUT THE PILOT, HOW IT WORKS, AND THAT WILL INCLUDE SIGNAGE AT [11:08] ALL LOCATIONS AHEAD OF TIME. AND THEN CERTAINLY ONGOING SIGNAGE [11:13] AT ALL LOCATIONS AS WELL. SO TO CAMERA LOCATIONS. JUST A [11:18] REMINDER THAT UNDER THE STATE LAW WE CAN HAVE A MAXIMUM OF 42 CAMERA LOCATIONS AT ANY ONE TIME [11:24] DURING THE PILOT PERIOD. WE ARE PLANNING TO LAUNCH WITH FIVE SPEED SAFETY CAMERA LOCATIONS. [11:32] AND THEN FROM THERE, WE ANTICIPATE AS PART OF THIS PILOT, WE'RE TRYING TO LEARN. AND SO WE'LL BE ADDING [11:39] ADDITIONAL CAMERA LOCATIONS FOR SPEED CAMERAS. WE'LL BE ADDING IN RED LIGHT CAMERAS AS WELL. [11:44] BOTH OF THOSE IN 2026. WE ANTICIPATE CONTINUING TO ADD LOCATIONS AS THINGS ARE DOING [11:50] WELL AND WE HAVE CAPACITY TO DO THAT. WE ALSO WILL BE MOVING [11:57] SOME LOCATIONS AROUND. AND THEN WE DO ANTICIPATE CONSIDERING I GOT A LOT OF QUESTIONS AROUND [12:02] COUNTY AND STATE ROADWAYS. RIGHT NOW WE'RE ONLY LOOKING AT CITY STREETS. BUT WE DO ANTICIPATE [12:09] CONSIDERING SOME OF THOSE ROADWAYS IN THE FUTURE. WE DO NEED THEIR SUPPORT FOR THAT. PUBLIC WORKS OVERALL IS [12:14] RESPONSIBLE FOR DETERMINING LOCATIONS DURING THE PILOT. SO [12:20] OUR TRAFFIC SAFETY CAMERA ANALYSIS, THIS IS REQUIRED BY STATE LAW. THIS MAP HERE SHOWS SOME OF THE BASICS OF THE STATE [12:27] LAW REQUIREMENTS MUST BE WITHIN 2,000 FEET OF A SCHOOL. SO THAT'S THE BLUE CIRCLES HERE. [12:34] THE RED DOTS ARE LOCATION INTERSECTION LOCATIONS WHERE WE HAD AT LEAST ONE INJURY CRASH [12:41] OVER FROM 2019 TO 2023. SO THAT WAS OUR WAY OF DETERMINING IS THERE AN IDENTIFIED TRAFFIC [12:47] SAFETY CONCERN. AND THEN THAT WAS SORT OF OUR STARTING POINT [12:52] FOR ANALYSIS. I WILL NOTE THAT [12:58] FOR THIS ANALYSIS AND REPORT, WE WERE REALLY FOCUSED ON SPEED CAMERA LOCATIONS. WE'LL BE DOING [13:05] AN ADDENDUM TO THIS THAT WILL BRING IN RED LIGHT CAMERA LOCATIONS AS WELL. FROM OUR [13:11] INITIAL ANALYSIS, WE NARROWED TO 51 CANDIDATE LOCATIONS THAT WE PUT OUT PUBLICLY IN FEBRUARY. [13:20] AND THESE WERE PRIORITIZED BASED ON THAT RECENT INJURY CRASH HISTORY ALONE. ALONG WITH MAKING [13:27] SURE THAT WE HAD AT LEAST TWO CANDIDATES IN EACH CITY COUNCIL WARD TO MAKE SURE WE HAD SOME [13:33] SPREADING AROUND THE CITY. I WILL NOTE THAT FIVE CITY COUNCIL [13:38] WARDS BECAUSE OF LOWER INJURY CRASH HISTORY ON CITY STREETS, WHICH IS GREAT, THERE WAS A [13:44] LITTLE BIT LOWER THRESHOLD TO GET ON THE LIST THAN IN SOME WARDS WHERE THERE'S MORE INJURY [13:49] CRASH HISTORY. SO WE DO HAVE INEQUITIES, AS YOU ALL KNOW, AND [13:55] WHERE CRASHES HAPPEN UNFORTUNATELY, AND WE'RE WORKING TO ADDRESS THAT AS WELL. SO WE [14:02] HAD A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PERIOD THAT STARTED IN FEBRUARY AND WENT TO MAY. WE HEARD FROM [14:09] 1200 PEOPLE DURING THAT PERIOD IN A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT WAYS. OVERALL, THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE BEEN GETTING HAS BEEN [14:16] INCREASINGLY POSITIVE AS WE'VE BEEN SHARING MORE DETAILS AND GETTING CLOSER TO THE LAUNCH. IN [14:21] THIS LATEST ROUND, 83% OF PEOPLE WHO SHARED A PERSPECTIVE WITH US SHARED SUPPORT FOR THE PILOT. [14:30] 17% SHARED CONCERN. SO THERE ARE DEFINITELY FOLKS WHO ARE CONCERNED. WE'RE JUST HEARING A [14:35] LOT MORE SUPPORT AROUND THE PILOT. YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE THEMES HERE AND WHAT PEOPLE ARE [14:43] PRIORITIZING. WE HEARD MORE SUPPORT THAN OPPOSITION ACROSS ALL THE CANDIDATE LOCATIONS. AND WE HEAR A LOT OF, "CAN I HAVE IT [14:50] OVER HERE" AND PARTICULAR QUESTIONS AROUND COUNTY AND STATE ROADWAYS. SO WE WERE JUST [14:57] IF WE THINK ABOUT HOW ARE WE GETTING TO THE DECISION HERE. SO I ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE FIRST [15:03] STEP HERE AND THE SECOND STEP OF GETTING TO 51 INITIAL CANDIDATE LOCATIONS. FROM THERE, WE [15:09] COLLECTED SPEED DATA AT ALL THESE LOCATIONS. WE DID [15:15] ADDITIONAL CRASH ANALYSIS. WE LOOKED AT THE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK THAT WE WERE GETTING. WE [15:21] CONSIDERED DETAILS AROUND THE LOCATION AND THE DESIGN, THE STREET DESIGN THERE. WHAT WE [15:26] DON'T WANT IS WE DON'T WANT LOCATIONS THAT PEOPLE MIGHT SAY, HEY, THAT'S A GOTCHA LOCATION. [15:32] WHERE YOU'RE JUST TRYING TO SET UP A SPEED TRAP. WE WANT ONES [15:38] WHERE WE HAVE A TRAFFIC SAFETY CHALLENGE. WE HAVE A SPEEDING PROBLEM, AND THERE'S SCHOOLS AND [15:44] OTHER THINGS GOING ON THERE AND THE STREET DESIGN IS NOT REALLY PROMOTING SPEEDING AT THAT [15:50] LEVEL. AND SO WE WERE REALLY INTENTIONAL ABOUT ALL THOSE THINGS. AND THEN WE WERE ALSO [15:55] INTENTIONAL AS REQUIRED IN THE STATE LAW BUT ALSO TO MEET OUR GOALS OF BALANCING ACROSS [16:01] GEOGRAPHIC AND OTHER EQUITY PIECES. SO THESE ARE THE INITIAL [16:11] FIVE CAMERA LOCATIONS WHICH ARE IN YELLOW HERE. PLUS IDENTIFIED 11 ADDITIONAL HIGH PRIORITIES [16:17] FOR FUTURE EXPANSIONS. THESE ARE ONES IF EVERYTHING IS GOING WELL AND WE HAVE CAPACITY MAYBE THESE [16:22] ALL GET INSTALLED NEXT YEAR OR [16:28] IN EARLY 2027. AND I CAN ANSWER [16:33] QUESTIONS AROUND THESE. THESE ARE ALL OUTLINED IN OUR REPORT. BUT WE'VE BEEN CERTAINLY SPREADING THE WORD ABOUT THESE. [16:43] WE HAVE ONE DOWNTOWN. ONE ON NORTHSIDE, ONE ON NORTHEAST. ONE [16:49] NEAR SOUTH AND ONE FARTHER SOUTH SIDE AS WELL. AND FOR ALL THESE [16:55] 16 LOCATIONS, THERE'S AT LEAST ONE IN EACH CITY COUNCIL WARD AS WELL OR ON THE BORDER OF A CITY [17:02] COUNCIL WARD. AND WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS [17:08] THAT FOLKS HAVE. >> GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. [17:13] FAWLEY FOR THE PRESENTATION. FIRST, I'LL RECOGZE COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE [17:18] PRESENTATION. THIS IS A GREAT PILOT PROGRAM AND I HOPE IT BRINGS A LOT OF SAFETY TO OUR COMMUNITY. I DO HAVE JUST A [17:28] SPECIFIC. I'M LOOKING AT THE LIST OF THE STREETS AND THE ONES THAT ARE NOT INCLUDED, THE ONES [17:34] I'M AWARE OF IS PORTLAND AND PARK. THAT IS ONE-WAY SYSTEM [17:40] ROADS. AND THE SPEED LIMIT I THINK IS MAYBE 30 MILES AN HOUR. BUT THE AVERAGE IS 42. PEOPLE [17:46] SPEED UP THERE A LOT. SO THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANY OF THE PILOTS [17:52] ARE NOT INCLUDED AND I'M KIND OF SURPRISED. I'M ALSO SURPRISED THINKING ABOUT PORTLAND AND [17:59] FRANKLIN, WHICH IS MY DISTRICT. THAT IS A VERY HIGH SPEED AREA. WE HAD I THINK ABOUT A YEAR AGO, [18:05] YEAR AND A HALF AGO, FIVE PEDESTRIANS WERE HIT. AND WE SEE [18:15] A LOT OF FOLKS JUST NOT OBEYING THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS AND JUST TAKING OFF. SO I THINK THAT IS [18:21] SOMETHING THAT WE KNOW, MY COMMUNITY MEMBERS KNOW THAT I KNOW, AND THAT IS THE PLACE THAT [18:28] DEFINITELY NEEDS. SO IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ME AS A COUNCIL MEMBER OR FOR THE COMMUNITY TO [18:33] STILL THINKING ABOUT A LOCATION IF THAT COULD BE A POTENTIAL FOR THIS PILOT PROGRAM. THANK YOU. [18:40] >> CHAIR CASHMAN, COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. SO PARK AND PORTLAND [18:46] AVENUE ARE COUNTY ROADS. SO DURING THIS INITIAL PHASE OF THE PILOT WHERE WE'RE FOCUSED ONLY [18:52] ON CITY STREET LOCATIONS, WE DID NOT CONSIDER THOSE. >> SURE. >> WE MAY IN THE FUTURE WITH [18:58] THEIR SUPPORT COME BACK ON THAT POTENTIALLY. I WILL ALSO NOTE THAT THAT'S A REALLY GOOD [19:03] EXAMPLE OF WHERE WE ARE THINKING HOLISTICALLY AROUND TRAFFIC SAFETY BECAUSE THERE ARE A [19:09] NUMBER OF SAFETY PROJECTS PLANNED IN THAT AREA THAT COUNTY WILL BE STARTING CONSTRUCTION I [19:15] BELIEVE NEXT YEAR ON FRANKLIN AVENUE RECONSTRUCTION IN THAT AREA AS WELL. THEY'VE ALREADY STARTED SOME UTILITY WORK OUT [19:21] THERE. AND THAT WILL INCLUDE A LOT OF SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE BUILT OUT OF COMMUNITY RESPONSE, AND WILL MAKE A BIG [19:28] DIFFERENCE FOR SAFETY IN THE AREA. THE COUNTY HAS FURTHER IMPROVEMENTS, SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS PLANNED FOR PARK [19:35] AND PORTLAND AVENUES FOR 2027 THAT WE'VE BEEN PARTNERING WITH THEM AS WELL. THAT WILL BE AN [19:41] OPPORTUNITY AS WELL. ONE OF OUR INITIAL LOCATIONS IS GOING TO BE TWO BLOCKS AWAY AT CHICAGO [19:49] AVENUE NEAR FRANKLIN AVENUE, WHICH IS ANOTHER LOCATION WITH A SIMILAR CRASH HISTORY. [19:54] UNFORTUNATE LEVELS OF SPEEDING THAT WE THINK WE CAN MAKE A REAL DIFFERENCE IN. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. THAT [20:00] EXPLAINS WHY WE DON'T HAVE THOSE ON THE PILOT PROGRAM. THE PUBLIC [20:08] ARE JUST LEARNING THIS INFORMATION. FOR ME, I DID RECEIVE A PRIVATE PRESENTATION [20:15] FROM THE STAFF EXPLAINING US HOW THE TICKETING WORKS. CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT JUST THE [20:22] ACTUAL WHAT WILL HAPPEN. WHAT IS [20:28] THE PILOT PROGRAM? WHEN THOSE CAMERAS COME ALIVE, WHAT DO THE [20:33] AVERAGE INDIVIDUAL EXPECT THOSE CAMERAS TO CATCH? IF YOU CAN [20:39] TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAILS [20:49] ABOUT. >> CHAIR CASHMAN, COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN, THIS WILL BE PART OF WHAT WE'RE COVERING OUR PUBLIC [20:56] INFORMATION CAMPAIGN AND REALLY GETTING OUT THAT INFORMATION SO PEOPLE KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT. SO [21:01] FIRST OF ALL, ALL THESE LOCATIONS WILL BE SIGNED SO [21:06] PEOPLE WILL KNOW THAT THERE'S A TRAFFIC SAFETY CAMERA THERE. WE'RE ALSO SHARING WHERE THEY [21:12] ARE PUBLICLY. WE WANT PEOPLE TO SLOW DOWN. NOW WOULD BE GREAT. BUT BEFORE THEY GET A WARNING OR [21:19] CITATION WOULD BE GREAT TOO. AND THEN ALL LOCATIONS, FOR SPEED [21:26] CAMERAS, IT'S IF YOU'RE GOING 10 OR MORE MILES AN HOUR OVER THE SPEED LIMIT. THIS ISN'T LIKE I [21:33] LOST TRACK AND GOING A MILE OVER THE SPEED LIMIT. THIS IS YOU'RE [21:40] GOING 25 + IN A 25 MILE AN HOUR SPEED LIMIT. REALLY CONSIDERING [21:46] OUR GOALS AROUND FAIRNESS, EQUITY, AND PRIVACY. SO THAT INCLUDES, YOU KNOW, THE FINE [21:52] STRUCTURE. YOUR FIRST VIOLATION IS A WARNING FOR EVERYONE. SO AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO JUST [21:58] REDUCE THAT UNSAFE SPEEDING OR RED LIGHT RUNNING. YOU'LL GET [22:03] THAT WARNING. IF YOU DON'T DO IT AGAIN AT A TRAFFIC SAFETY CAMERA LOCATION, THEN YOU'LL NEVER GET [22:09] A CITATION. IF YOU DO, IT'S A $40 CITATION. OR $80 IF YOU'RE [22:15] GOING 20 OR MORE OVER THE SPEED LIMIT. YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A FREE TRAFFIC SAFETY [22:20] COURSE INSTEAD OF PAYING THAT CITATION. IT WILL GO AWAY. BEYOND THAT, YOU JUST HAVE TO [22:25] PAY THE CITATION. OF COURSE FOLKS CAN ALSO CONTEST, AND THEY'LL ALSO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE [22:32] INFORMATION. IF YOU PROVIDE A SWORN STATEMENT THAT YOU WERE NOT OPERATING THE VEHICLE AT THE [22:37] TIME OF INFRACTION, THEN YOUR CITATION WILL BE DISMISSED. IF [22:43] YOUR VEHICLE WAS STOLEN OR THINGS LIKE THAT. THAT WILL BE INFORMATION PEOPLE WILL GET IN [22:48] THE MAIL WITH THEIR WARNING OR CITATION AND THEY'LL BE ABLE TO GO IN TO OUR VENDOR'S WEBSITE [22:54] AND SEE ACTUAL VIDEO OF THE INFRACTION. AND THEN IF THEY WANT TO SHARE ANY OF THAT [23:00] INFORMATION FOR DISMISSAL, TO BE CONSIDERED FOR DISMISSAL, THEN THEY'LL BE ABLE TO DO THAT RIGHT [23:06] THERE VERY SEAMLESSLY. SO THAT'S SOME OF THE BASICS. I'LL ALSO [23:11] JUST NOTE WE WERE REALLY INTENTIONAL PROTECTING PEOPLE'S DATA AND PRIVACY AND HOW WE STRUCTURED WHAT CAN BE RECORDED [23:17] AND STORED AND ALL THE DATA PRACTICES AROUND THAT. SO THAT'S ANOTHER AREA WE HEAR QUESTIONS [23:22] ABOUT AS WELL AND WE'VE BEEN REALLY INTENTIONAL ABOUT. >> THANK YOU. MY LAST QUESTION [23:28] IS WILL THESE CAMERA ONLY CATCH THE VEHICLE INFORMATION? IT [23:33] DOESN'T INCLUDE FACIAL RECOGNITION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT JUST TO BE CLEAR? >> CHAIR CASHMAN, COUNCIL MEMBER [23:38] OSMAN, THAT IS CORRECT. UNDER STATE LAW WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO -- FIRST OF ALL, WE CAN ONLY [23:44] RECORD INFORMATION IF THE SYSTEM SENSES A VIOLATION OR A [23:49] POTENTIAL VIOLATION. AND ANY VIDEO THAT IS RECORDED OR PICTURES CANNOT HAVE ANYONE BE [23:56] PERSONALLY IDENTIFIABLE. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN. I PUT MYSELF IN QUEUE [24:02] JUST TO ASK ABOUT WHAT EXACTLY WE NEED IN TERMS OF COUNTY [24:08] SUPPORT TO MOVE THESE CAMERAS ON TO LAKE STREET, LYNDALE, PARK, [24:17] PORTLAND. YEAH, WHAT DOES THAT COUNTY SUPPORT LOOK LIKE? >> CHAIR CASHMAN, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. WE WILL BE [24:24] HAVING -- WE STARTED CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM AND WE'LL BE CONTINUING THAT. WE WANT TO GET STARTED WITH THE PILOT AND SEE HOW IT GOES. WE [24:31] HAVE A LOT OF GOOD SITES WE FEEL ON THE CITY SYSTEM. AND SO THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO [24:37] GET EVERYTHING WORKING WELL. WE'LL BE HAVING SOME ADDITIONAL [24:43] CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COUNTY AND MNDOT POTENTIALLY PARTNERING ON THE ROADS. THAT CONVERSATION [24:48] HAS BEEN ONGOING, AND WE'LL BE DOING MORE THERE IN THE FUTURE AS WELL. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. I JUST GET A [24:54] LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT WHY LAKE STREET, WHY PENN ARE INCLUDED. [25:01] IT SOUNDS LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN GETS THE SAME, PARK AND PORTLAND. HOPING WE CAN [25:08] COLLABORATE WITH THE COUNTY ON THIS. AND CONTINUE TALKING TO THE COMMISSIONERS AS WELL JUST [25:15] TO ASK FOR THEIR HELP AND SUPPORT. ANY OTHER COMMITTEE [25:21] MEMBERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THIS? SEEING NONE, THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. FAWLEY. AND [25:27] I'LL ASK THE CLERK TO FILE THIS UPDATE. OUR LAST ITEM TODAY IS [25:42] RESPONSE TO VEHICLE NOISE POLLUTION POLICY. I'LL ASK THE TEAM TO INTRODUCE THIS. [26:10] >> GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR CASHMAN AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS, MY NAME [26:15] IS DWIGHT MILLER AND I'M REPRESENTING THE LEGISLATIVE [26:21] POLICY AND RESEARCH TEAM. FIRST [26:27] TO JUST GROUND US IN SORT OF THE LEGISLATIVE BACKGROUND OF THIS REPORT AND THE PRESENTATION. IN [26:33] MAY, IT WAS DISCUSSED TO REQUEST LEGISLATIVE POLICY AND RESEARCH STAFF WHICH WAS AT THE TIME [26:40] POLICY AND RESEARCH STAFF TO COVER THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION REGARDING REGULATIONS AND [26:46] RESPONSIBILITIES OF AUTHORITIES FOR VEHICLE NOISE, ANALYSIS OF LANDSCAPE AND NOISE POLLUTION ABATEMENT PRACTICES ACROSS THE [26:52] COUNTRY, AND ALSO IDENTIFYING OPPORTUNITIES AND CHALLENGES THAT AWAITS THE CITY OF [26:57] MINNEAPOLIS WHEN PURSUING THESE NOISE ABATEMENT PRACTICES. SPECIFIC ATTENTION TO COMMERCIAL [27:06] AND PUBLIC SAFETY VEHICLE NOISE. THESE VEHICLES ARE THE PRIMARY FOCUS OF THIS PRESENTATION, AND ALSO OF THE REPORT THAT WAS IN [27:13] YOUR INBOX. ALTHOUGH SOME OF THE AREAS THAT ARE CONSIDERED FOR [27:19] THIS VERY NICHE TOPIC CAN BE APPLIED TO GENERAL VEHICLE NOISE POLLUTION ABATEMENT, GENERAL [27:26] VEHICLE NOISE POLLUTION ABATEMENT WAS NOT COVERED IN THE REPORT AND WAS NOT THE SUBJECT [27:33] OF THE PRESENTATION. I JUST WANT TO GET THAT OUT THERE. BEFORE WE GET STARTED, I ALWAYS WANT TO GROUND US INTO THE WHY. WHY [27:39] NOISE POLLUTION? A LOT OF THE TIMES WE THINK OF NOISE POLLUTION, PEOPLE THINK OF IT AS [27:44] MERELY A COMFORT OR JUST A GENERAL QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE. BUT IT IS ALSO A HEALTH ISSUE. [27:53] EXTREME NOISE EXPOSURE CAN CAUSE HEART DISEASE RISK TO INCREASE, IT CAN ALSO CAUSE SLEEP [27:59] DISRUPTION, AND JUST LONG-TERM MENTAL AND PHYSICAL STRESS THAT IMPACTS THE LONG-TERM HEALTH OF [28:07] OUR RESIDENTS. THE WORLD HEALTH [28:13] ORGANIZATION RANKS NOISE POLLUTION SECOND TO AIR POLLUTION. WHEN WE THINK ABOUT NOISE, WE DON'T WANT TO THINK OF [28:20] IT AS A NUISANCE, THIS IS THE HEALTH OF THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. IT'S JUST [28:26] SO WE CAN PUT A DEFINITION ON WHAT IS NOISE POLLUTION. WHAT IS TOO LOUD? THE HEARING -- IT [28:42] COULD BE A VACUUM CLEANER, WASHING MACHINE. HOWEVER, THE FOUNDATION IN THIS INFOGRAPHIC [28:48] ABOVE, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S OTHER MARKERS THAT ARE HIGHER THAN [28:55] 70 DECIBELS. CITY TRAFFIC WHICH IS AROUND 85 DECIBELS. 100 DECIBELS WHEN YOU THINK [29:01] ABOUT CAR HORNS. AMBIENT NOISE. [29:10] I SAT OUTSIDE OF CITY HALL AND WAS ABLE TO GET 65 DECIBELS OF JUST GENERAL NOISE VOLUME OF [29:16] TRAFFIC AROUND. THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF THEATER OF THE MIND IN THIS WHEN WE THINK ABOUT WHAT [29:21] IS NOISE AS FAR AS THE NOISE AND RISK POLLUTION. WHEN WE TALK [29:26] ABOUT NOISE POLLUTION, WE THINK ABOUT HOW DO WE ABATE IT. [29:34] THERE'S THE STATE LEVEL WHICH IS REALLY THE FOCUS OF THE [29:41] MINNEAPOLIS POLLUTION CONTROL AGENCY. THERE'S THIS REALLY HANDY GUIDE TO NOISE CONTROL IN MINNESOTA THAT THE MPCA GIVES [29:51] GUIDANCE ON NOISE CONCERNS AND PROPER AUTHORITIES MINNESOTANS CAN USE TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES. [29:57] THE MPCA GUIDE SUGGESTS RESIDENTS CONTACT LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND LOCAL LAW [30:02] ENFORCEMENT FOR COURSE OF ACTION. GIVEN THAT HENNEPIN COUNTY DOES NOT HAVE AN ORDINANCE RELATED TO NOISE AND [30:08] NOISE POLLUTION, MOST OF THESE [30:14] REGULATIONS OF -- COVERS THINGS [30:19] AS NOISE CANNOT BE APPOSITIVE 10 DECIBELS ABOVE THE AMBIENT [30:25] NOISE DECIBELS DURING THE DAY, OR 5 DECIBELS ABOVE AMBIENT [30:34] NOISE AT NIGHT. THAT INCLUDES EXHAUST. AT THE SAME TIME IT [30:41] OFFERS REGULATIONS, IT ALSO OFFERS EXCEPTIONS FOR EMERGENCY RESPONSE VEHICLES, WHICH IS [30:46] DIRECTLY TIED TO THE REPORT. WHEN WE THINK ABOUT COMMON [30:52] SOURCES OF COMMERCIAL AND PUBLIC SAFETY NOISE. AS I WAS DOING THE RESEARCH, I KIND OF WENT INTO THREE DIFFERENT BUCKETS. THE [30:58] FIRST IS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY VEHICLES IS THE LIGHTS AND SIRENS. LIGHTS AND SIRENS COMING FROM FIRE, POLICE, AND EMS. WHEN [31:06] IT COMES TO CONSTRUCTION SITE NOISE, PARTICULARLY THERE WAS A FOCUS ON BACK-UP ALARMS OR NOISE [31:11] OF THE EQUMENT AT THE SITE. ALOS AND JAKE BRAKES FROM SEMI [31:17] TRUCKS. I WAS ABLE TO FIND [31:24] ROBUST INFRASTRUCTURE REGULATED -- ALL CONTACTED FOR THIS REPORT AND DID NOT REPORT [31:32] RECEIVING SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT LIGHTS AND SIRENS. USUALLY THEY SAID IF [31:39] THEY HAVE A PROBLEM THEY COULD CALL THE FIREHOUSE OR PRECINCT IF THERE'S AN ISSUE. BUT THEY [31:44] WEREN'T ABLE TO GIVE ME ANYTHING AS FAR AS NUMBERS. HOWEVER, REGARDING CONSTRUCTION SITE [31:49] NOISE, THERE'S MUCH MORE CLEAR PROCESS FOR RESIDENTS TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE. A DISTINCT DIFFERENCE [31:56] IN CONSTRUCTION NOISE AND NOISE FROM SIRENS AND ENGINE BRAKES IS THE CONSTRUCTION NOISE IS NOT [32:02] MOBILE. ALLOWING THOSE HANDING OUT ADVISORIES TO RECEIVE A COMPLAINT, GO AND INVESTIGATE [32:08] AND DETERMINE WHETHER THE NO [32:15] NOISE -- SERVE AS A CHALLENGE, WHICH WILL BE DISCUSSED LATER IN THIS PRESENTATION. BEFORE WE GET [32:26] INTO SOME OF THESE ABATEMENT PRACTICES, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT [32:31] NOW. NOISE ENFORCEMENT IS REACTIVE. THERE'S NOT REALLY ACTIVE MONITORING OR [32:37] SURVEILLANCE OF NOISE AND NOISE VIOLATIONS. THE 311 SYSTEM [32:43] SERVES AS THE POINT OF CONTACT. 311 ALSO RELAYS COMPLAINTS [32:51] REGARDING GARBAGE COLLECTION, AND ROUTES ALL THE COMPLAINTS TO THE PROPER DEPARTMENT. THERE IS [32:58] NO FOLLOW UP MONITORING RESOLUTION. ADDITIONALLY, ALTHOUGH THOSE ISSUES ARE TRACKED IN THE SYSTEM, REPORTS [33:05] CAN BE CHALLENGING WITHOUT GRANULAR KEY WORD REPORTING. THIS COMBINED WITH TRACKING [33:12] NOISE COMPLAINTS ABOUT HENNEPIN EMS, MPD AND FD -- THE [33:22] MINNEAPOLIS HEALTH DEPARTMENT ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRAMS UNIT DOES ADDRESS COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTION [33:29] NOISE. SITE NOISE. PARTICULARLY WHEN IT COMES TO AFTER HOURS. [33:34] CONSTRUCTION IS PERMISSIBLE FROM 7 A.M. TO 6 P.M. EQUIPMENT NOISE THAT RESULTS IS ALSO COVERED AS [33:41] AN EXCEPTION UNDER CITY NOISE ORDINANCE. ACTIVITY OCCURRING [33:46] OUTSIDE OF THOSE TIMES IS CONSIDERED A VIOLATION. THERE IS [33:52] A GUIDANCE ON HOW TO LOOK UP A PERMIT IF YOU'RE CURIOUS ABOUT IT. NOW BETWEEN JANUARY 2024 AND [33:59] JANUARY 2025, ONLY 22% OF AFTER HOURS COMPLAINT FROM RESIDENTS [34:04] ACTUALLY REQUIRED AN INVESTIGATION. WHEN LOOKED INTO IT, THERE WERE A FEW REASONS WHY TO WHY THERE MIGHT BE A GAP. [34:17] SOMETIMES THERE'S INADEQUATE, [34:22] INSUFFICIENT EVIDENCE. PARTICULARLY DURING DELIVERY [34:27] TIMES, SITES CAN DELIVER EQUIPMENT BEFORE WORK BEGINS, WHICH IS WHY MAYBE IF IT'S 6:30, [34:32] YOU HEAR THE BEEP-BEEP TONAL IN THE BACK. THEY'RE DELIVERING THOSE RESOURCES, AND THAT IS [34:38] ALLOWED UNDER THE CITY ORDINANCE. ALONG WITH THAT BACKUP TONAL ALARMS, EXCEPTIONS [34:47] ARE NOT CONSIDERED NOISE VIOLATIONS. SO THAT IS SORT OF OUR CURRENT STATE OF PLAY. NOW [34:54] GETTING INTO NOISE POLLUTION ABATEMENT PRACTICES, I WANT TO FOCUS ON REALLY THREE PARTICULAR [35:00] PRACTICES THAT WAS FOUND ACROSS THE COUNTRY. ONE CONSIDERING TONAL BACKUP CAMERAS, LIGHTS AND [35:06] SIRENS, AND ENGINE BRAKES AND JAKE BRAKES. REGARDING BACKUP ALARMS. KIND OF THE STANDARD [35:12] TONAL BACKUP ALARM IS THE BEEP-BEEP-BEEP YOU MIGHT HEAR IF SOMEBODY IS BACKING UP A U-HALL. [35:20] THERE'S ALSO GOING TO BE SOME SOUND EFFECTS HERE. TONAL BACK-UP ALARMS, THEY CAN RANGE [35:27] UP TO 110 DECIBELS. HEALTHY NOISE IS 70 DECIBELS. OSHA [35:34] REQUIRES WORK VEHICLES WITH OBSTRUCTED REAR VIEWS TO HAVE [35:40] TONAL ALARMS. THIS THING IS BACKING UP AND CANNOT SEE BEHIND THEM, OR SOMEBODY BEHIND THEM [35:46] SIGNALING. THE MOST COMMON WAY OF DO G -- DOING THAT IS A TONAL [35:54] ALARM. BROADBAND BACKUP ALARMS USE MULTIPLE FREAKS AND MAKE AN [36:00] ALMOST SHHH SOUND. QUIETER, IT'S [36:08] DR DIRECTIONAL. AND ALSO CAN ADJUST TO AMBIENT NOISE. IF AMBIENT [36:13] NOISE IS LOUDER SURROUNDING IT, THEN IF IT'S LOUDER, IT GETS [36:20] LOUDER. IF IT'S QUIETER, IT GETS QUIETER. I'M GOING TO PLAY THIS [36:26] VIDEO. IT IS NOT WORKING. IF YOU HAVE A FRAME OF REFERENCE, IF [36:31] YOU EVER HAVE AN AMAZON DELIVERY VEHICLE AND YOU HEAR IT BACK UP, [36:37] YOU WILL HEAR THE SHHH-SHHH. MY [36:43] COLLEAGUES HEARD THE SOUND. IT'S PERCEIVED AS A LITTLE QUIETER. NEW YORK CITY IS PERCEIVED SO [36:50] MUCH QUIETER THAT NEW YORK CITY THROUGHOUT ITS CITY FLEET HAS ADOPTED THE MULTI-FREQUENCY [36:55] ALARMS FOR THEIR HEAVY FLEET, ALONG WITH MULTI-DECIBEL ALARMS WHICH USE THE TONAL ALARM BUT [37:01] ALSO ADJUST THE SOUND VOLUME BASED ON AMBIENT NOISE LEVEL SO IT COMES OUT MAYBE INSTEAD OF [37:08] 110 DECIBELS, IT WILL BE 90 DECIBELS. IN ADDITION TO THIS FLEET ADOPTION, NEW YORK CITY IN [37:16] 2023 MANDATED ALL CONTRACTORS WORKING ON CITY PROJECTS USE [37:21] WHITE NOISE ALARMS. THESE ALARMS [37:27] ARE AROUND IN THE $20 TO $30 RANGE. NOW LIGHTS AND SIRENS. [37:33] LIGHTS AND SIRENS AS MENTIONED EARLIER ARE SIGNIFICANT SOURCES OF URBAN NOISE. SOMETIMES [37:38] GETTING UP TO 120 TO 123 DECIBELS IN ORDER TO ALERT PEDESTRIANS AND DRIVERS. SIRENS [37:43] NEED TO BE THIS LOUD BECAUSE THERE'S INCREASE SOUND PROOFING IN CABINS, AND ALSO DRIVERS ARE [37:50] MORE DISTRACTED THAN THEY WERE BEFORE BECAUSE OF PHONES. AND ALSO INFOTAINMENT CENTERS. SO [37:59] CONSEQUENTLY, LIGHTS AND SIRENS ARE THE MOST DANGEROUS PART [38:04] RESPONDING TO AN EMERGENCY. DUE TO THIS DANGER, MECKLENBURG COUNTY IN NORTH CAROLINA, WHICH [38:11] IS HOME TO CHARLOTTE, NORTH CAROLINA, MECKLENBURG COUNTY [38:17] MEDIC SERVICE 911 REDUCED SIRENS [38:22] FOR THEIR DRIVERS. THEY INVOLVED ANY LIGHTS AND SIRENS, AND [38:27] REVEALED A LOT OF THE CALLS THEY'RE RESPONDING TO FOR LIGHTS AND SIRENS ACTUALLY DIDN'T NEED [38:35] LIGHTS AND SIRENS AND WEREN'T HIGH CASES. THEY WERE ADJUSTED FOR DISPATCH CALL TO WHERE IT'S [38:43] ONLY HIGH CASES. IT WAS A 55% [38:49] POINT DROP. AND A 33% DROP IN COLLISIONS DURING EMERGENCY [38:55] CALLS. THIS WAS IN 2024. SO THEY'RE IN THE SECOND YEAR OF TRYING THIS OUT. THEY'RE ALSO [39:01] TRYING, THE PERSON WHO STARTED THIS IN CHARLOTTE, NORTH CAROLINA, AND MECKLENBURG [39:06] COUNTY, IS ALSO TRYING IT IN WAKE COUNTY IN RALEIGH NORTH CAROLINA, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR [39:11] WITH IT. I WANT TO PREFACE IT WITH THIS WAS NOT CONSIDERED A [39:17] NOISE POLLUTION. IT WAS CONSIDERED DRIVER SAFETY PRACTICE WITH THE BYPRODUCT BEING THAT IT'S REDUCING NOISE [39:25] BECAUSE THERE'S LITERALLY LESS NOISE ON THE STREETS. AND THE LAST KIND OF MAJOR SOURCE IS [39:34] ENGINE BRAKES. ENGINE BRAKES ARE USED TO ASSIST OVERWEIGHT [39:39] VEHICLES. GENERALLY THIS IS USED ON HILLS. HOWEVER, IT IS LOUD [39:44] AND OFTENTIMES THEY CAN REACH 96 TO 106 DECIBELS. MINNEAPOLIS DOES HAVE AN ORDINANCE [39:51] RESTRICTING ENGINE BRAKES USE AT SPECIFIC SECTION OF I-394. HOWEVER, I WANT TO PRESENT SOME [39:59] CITY WIDE ENGINE BRAKE BANS TO PUT IT IN SCALE AND HAVE A SENSE OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. A LOCAL [40:05] EXAMPLE, MANKATO, MINNESOTA, PASSED AN ORDINANCE BANNING [40:11] ENGINE BRAKE USE. OFFICIALS THERE ADMITTED THAT WHILE THE BAN DID PASS IN MAY AND THEY'RE [40:18] WAITING ON A SIGN, THEY'RE NOT HOPEFUL IT WILL LEAD TO ENGINE [40:23] BRAKES BEING BANNED OR STOPPING THE USE. THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT CAME UP AS THEY WERE DEBATING IT OVER THE YEARS TO GET THIS BAN [40:31] PASSED. BUT IT IS A GOOD CASE OF DEMOCRACY WORKING. THAT'S WHAT THE PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICIAL SAYS. [40:38] COLORADO SPRINGS IS THE LARGEST CITY THAT HAD A CITY WIDE ENGINE [40:43] BRAKES BAN. HOWEVER, THEIR CITY OFFICIAL SAID THE SAME THINGS AS [40:51] MANKATO. HOWEVER, THEY WERE ABLE TO SQUASH SOME OF THE NOISE FROM [40:57] COMMERCIAL VEHICLES FOR REALLY PUSHING FOR THE MUFFLER STATE [41:02] BAN. IN COLORADO, YOU HAVE TO [41:09] HAVE A CHAMBER MUFFLER. THE JAKE [41:15] BRAKE MANUAL SAYS IF YOU USE -- COLORADO HAS A STATEWIDE FOR COMMERCIAL VEHICLE WITH 88 [41:21] DECIBEL LIMIT FOR TRUCKS, AND THEIR PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICIALS IN [41:28] COLORADO SPRINGS SAID USUALLY THE MUFFLER HANDLES THE ENGINE [41:33] BRAKING. SAYING HEY, YOU NEED TO CHANGE YOUR MUFFLERS. A LOT OF [41:39] TIMES LARGER TRUCKER INDUSTRIES ARE NOT NECESSARILY THE CULPRITS. IT'S USUALLY SMALLER [41:46] INDEPENDENT TRUCKS USING SMALLER TAILPIPES WHICH DOES NOT REDUCE [41:52] SOUND. SPEAKING OF CAMERAS, I WANTED TO LOOK A LITTLE BIT IN TO NOISE CAMERAS AS WE'RE [41:58] THINKING ABOUT THIS TRAFFIC CAMERA PILOT. THIS IS A [42:05] RECURRING PROBLEM. IT'S HARD TO THREAD THE NEEDLE BETWEEN A [42:12] NOISE VIOLATION HAPPENING. BEING ABLE TO KEEP TRACK OF ALL THE OTHER PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES. [42:17] NOISE CAMERAS HAVE BEEN ROLLED [42:24] OUT IN MIAMI BEACH AND KNOXVILLE. NEW YORK CITY IS USING IT TO HAND OUT CITATIONS. [42:30] AND ALSO DELIVER WARNINGS TO DRIVERS. THE MOST SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGE OF THIS TECHNOLOGY AND IMPLEMENTING THAT IS THE NOISE [42:38] ABATEMENT STRATEGY FOR MINNEAPOLIS IS THIS LEGAL. WHILE THERE IS A PILOT FOR TRAFFIC [42:44] CAMERAS IN THE CITY, THOSE LAWS LIMIT TECHNOLOGY TO JUST THOSE PRACTICES AND LEAVE LITTLE ROOM [42:50] FOR FLEXIBILITY TO INCLUDE NOISE CAMERAS. SO WHERE ARE SOME AREAS [42:55] OF CONSIDERATION? SO FIRST, JUST INCREASING THE AMOUNT OF EDUCATION FOR CONSTITUENTS ON [43:01] WHAT IS A NOISE VIOLATION, WHAT IS THE NOISE ORDINANCE LAWS. THERE'S OTHER TOOLS YOU CAN USE. [43:08] THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRAMS UNIT ACTUALLY HAVE CONSTITUENTS USE [43:13] THE TIMESTAMP APP SO THEY CAN TRACK AND SEND IN EVIDENCE FOR [43:19] AFTER HOURS NOISE COMPLAINTS. ALSO FEASIBILITY OF WHAT WHITE NOISE ALARM ADOPTION AMONG THE [43:27] CITY'S FLEET CAN DO. FIRST RESPONDERS, MFD, SINCE HENNEPIN [43:34] EMS, WE DON'T HAVE NECESSARILY JURISDICTION OVER. ADVOCATING FOR MUFFLER LAWS AT THE STATE [43:41] LEVEL WILL HELP ADDRESS SOME OF THE ENGINE NOISE FROM ENGINE BRAKING. I WANT TO EMPHASIZE [43:49] IMPROVE DATA COLLECTION. ASKING HOW MUCH COMMERCIAL NOISE OR HOW MUCH PUBLIC SAFETY NOISE FROM [43:56] VEHICLES OR JUST VEHICLE NOISE IN GENERAL SENT ME TO 311, 911, [44:01] THE PUBLIC SAFETY AGENCIES, PUBLIC WORKS. SO THERE'S NO SINGLE SOURCE WHERE IT'S LIKE [44:07] THIS IS HOW MUCH VEHICLE NOISE IS HAPPENING IN OUR CITY. JUST A [44:13] MORE INTEGRATED SYSTEM TO ANSWER THE WHAT, WHERE, AND HOW NOISE [44:18] TO HELP US WRAP AROUND AND UNDERSTAND THIS PROBLEM BETTER. THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK AT THE [44:25] REPORT IN ITS ENTIRETY FOR MORE DETAILS. I WELCOME ANY QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. [44:30] MILLER, FOR THE PRESENTATION. I THOUGHT THIS WAS REALLY COMPREHENSIVE AND ADDRESSED A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAD [44:36] IN WRITING THE STAFF DIRECTION. I DO GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS FROM CONSTITUENTS ABOUT NOISE IN [44:42] WARD 7 PROBABLY BECAUSE IT'S A DENSE AREA OF THE CITY. YOU KNOW, THE EMERGENCY VEHICLES [44:49] NEAR THE FIRE STATION, YOU KNOW, THE POLICE SIRENS COMING DOWN [44:58] BL BLAISDALE, COMING DOWN LA SALLE. THESE ARE CONCERNS THAT LOOKING [45:03] INTO THIS IT LOOKS LIKE WE DO NOT ALLOW AIR BRAKES TO BE USED IN THE CITY. HOWEVER, THEY STILL [45:09] ARE USED. SO THAT MEANS WE NEED TO DO MORE SIGNAGE OR MORE [45:16] ENFORCEMENT OR MORE COMMUNICATION WITH MNDOT ABOUT OUR HIGHWAYS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ENFORCING THIS. I ALSO JUST WANT [45:23] TO ASK YOU A QUESTION IF YOU DID LOOK AT THE DECIBEL LEVELS OF THE SIRENS THAT WE DO HAVE IN [45:29] OUR FLEET, AND ALSO IF YOU LOOKED AT EMS VEHICLES. I KNOW IT'S HENNEPIN COUNTY. [45:35] >> I DID. AND I CAN SEND THOSE TO YOU DIRECTLY. BUT THEY'RE [45:40] AROUND 120 TO 128 DECIBELS DEPENDING ON WHETHER THEY USE -- [45:45] SO FOR INSTANCE, THE HORN IN THE FIRE TRUCK SEEMS TO BE LOUDER [45:51] BUT DECIBEL LEVEL TO THE ACTUAL ALARM. BUT THAT'S AROUND THE DECIBEL LEVEL. IF YOU WERE KIND [45:57] OF FLASHING BACK TO HERE, WE CAN GET A SENSE OF WHERE THAT IS ON [46:03] THE SCALE OF DECIBELS. >> OKAY. THANKS. IT SEEMS LIKE [46:09] OTHER CITIES HAVE FOUND LESS INTRUSIVE, LESS POLLUTING WAYS [46:16] TO HAVE PUBLIC SAFETY VEHICLES NAVIGATE THE STREETS SAFELY, AND [46:21] MINNEAPOLIS SHOULD BE LOOKING INTO THIS AS WELL ESPECIALLY AS OUR RESIDENTIAL POPULATION [46:26] GROWS, OUR CITY GETS DENSER. IT IS A QUALITY OF LIFE CONCERN. IT [46:33] IS A PUBLIC HEALTH CONCERN FOR US TO BE LIVING WITH ELEVATED [46:38] DECIBELS. AT LEAST THIS IS MY EXPERIENCE, THIS IS SOMETHING I HEAR FROM CONSTITUENTS AND I [46:44] WANT TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE BASELINE HERE IN TERMS OF CITY OF [46:54] MINNEAPOLIS. NEXT, COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW. >> I LEARNED A LOT. ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD LOVE TO LEARN A [47:00] LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT IS HELICOPTERS. I LIVE NEAR A HOSPITAL, AND I DON'T EVEN HEAR [47:07] THE AMBULANCE AND POLICE AS MUCH AS THE HELICOPTERS. SOME OF US [47:12] LIVE IN NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE THERE ARE HELLIPADS. IT'S SO [47:18] LOUD. IT'S A NOISE AFTER MANY YEARS OF LIVING THERE I'VE NEVER GOTTEN USED TO. IT'S TYPICALLY [47:25] WHAT MY NEIGHBORS COMPLAIN ABOUT. I'D LOVE TO KNOW HOW THAT RATES ON THESE SCALES FOR NOISE [47:31] LEVELS. I MEAN, YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. RIGHT? THE THING ABOUT THE [47:37] HELICOPTER IS IT ALSO SETS OFF THE DOGS. WHEN IT'S GOING, THEN ALL THE DOGS IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE BARKING TOO. [47:43] AND SO THAT'S ANOTHER LEVEL OF NOISE. BUT I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THAT IS LIKE. AND [47:50] THEN ALSO, I JUST WANTED TO SAY YOU DID A FANTASTIC JOB AT THE SOUNDS. IT WAS SO GOOD. IT [47:57] REMINDED ME, IN THE '80s THERE USED TO BE THESE MOVIES CALLED [48:03] "POLICE ACADEMY," THERE WAS A LONG SERIES OF THEM. MICHAEL [48:10] WINSLOW ALWAYS IMPERSONATED THE SOUND OF THESE EMERGENCY VEHICLES IN THESE MOVIES. YOU ARE SO GOOD. ALMOST AS GOOD AS [48:17] MICHAEL WINSLOW. YOUTUBE THE VIDEOS. HE WAS IMPRESSIVE. I HAVEN'T SEEN HIM SINCE THE '80s [48:24] SO MAYBE HE WASN'T AS GOOD AS I THOUGHT. I LIKED THAT ADDED TOUCH TO THE PRESENTATION. THAT WAS GOOD. THANK YOU. [48:30] >> THANK YOU. >> THANKS, COUNCIL MEMBER. DID YOU HAVE ANY INFO ON [48:35] HELICOPTERS? WAS THAT PART OF YOUR RESEARCH AT ALL? >> I DID NOT. I DID MAKE A NOTE [48:40] OF IT BECAUSE THAT'S A CURIOSITY. ESPECIALLY SINCE MY BRAIN IS ALWAYS ON NOISE SINCE GOING INTO THAT PROJECT. I WILL [48:46] DEFINITELY LOOK INTO THAT. >> ONE LAST QUESTION THAT I HAD [48:52] IS IN OUR FLEET HERE, WHO DOES SET THE DECIBEL LEVEL AND THE [48:57] TONE OF THE SIRENS FOR MPD AND MFD VEHICLES, AND WHEN WILL THE [49:03] CONTRACT BE UP FOR THE SIRENS? LIKE WHEN WILL THERE BE AN [49:09] INFLECTION POINT TO CONSIDER? >> I DID NOT ASK. THEY DO SOURCE [49:15] THEM FROM FLEET SERVICES. ARE YOU ABLE TO TURN ON AND OFF THE [49:22] DIFFERENT TONALS. I KNOW SOME PEOPLE THEY DO, IT'S THE BEEP, [49:29] IT'S THE EUROPEAN STYLE WHERE YOU HEAR ON "BOURNE ULTIMATUM." [49:46] IF I'M HEARING CORRECTLY, CAN WE CONTROL DIFFERENT TONES AND ALSO WHERE DO WE SOURCE OUR SIRENS [49:51] FROM. >> IF IT'S A QUESTION OF PROCUREMENT AND IF WE'RE GOING TO BE MAKING THAT SWITCH, WE CAN [49:57] MAKE A SWITCH TO SOMETHING HEALTHIER, IN THE SAME WAY WE'RE [50:02] TRANSITIONING OUR PUBLIC WORKS FLEET TO VEHICLES TO BE HEALTHIER FOR THE CITY AND MEET OUR HEALTH GOALS. WE CAN DO THE [50:09] SAME WITH OUR SIRENS. I LOOKED AT THE 2040 PLAN TO SEE IF WE HAD ANY NOISE POLLUTION GOALS [50:15] AND I DIDN'T SEE ANY. ALTHOUGH WE HAD A LOT OF OTHER GOALS IN THAT PLAN. WE HAVE DARK SKIES [50:23] GOALS WHERE WE CAN SEE THE STARS IN THE CITY. I'M HOPING AS WE START LOOKING AT THE 2050 PLAN [50:29] THAT WE CAN INCLUDE A NOISE POLLUTION GOAL AS WELL. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? [50:34] >> MADAM CHAIR, WOULD YOU LIKE THE TWO QUESTIONS RECORDED FOR A STAFF MEMO? [50:39] >> THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THANK YOU. >> I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH STAFF. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, CLERK MICHAEL. AND [50:45] THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. MILLER, FOR THE PRESENTATION. I WILL ASK CLERK TO FILE THIS REPORT, AND [50:51] WITH THAT, WE'VE CONCLUDED ALL BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE THE [50:57] COMMITTEE. WITHOUT OBJECTION, WE ARE ADJOURNED.