[0:09] >> Welcome, everyone to the [0:24] regular meeting of the [0:25] Minneapolis planning commission. [0:26] For July 7th, 2025 my name is [0:29] Chris Meyer and I'm Chair of the [0:30] commission. We have a new [0:34] Commissioner before we take the [0:36] role. -- roll. Mr. Dave [0:40] shepherd. Would you like to [0:41] tell us about yourself. Turn on [0:43] the microphone. Yep. [0:45] >> I'm Dave shepherd I'm a [0:48] commercial architect for the [0:49] past 30 years and I'm part of a [0:52] firm in HPR, and that's the long [0:55] and short of it. [0:56] >> Great, welcome. Tell us how [0:59] to She that, pard or do you mean [1:02] Dave. (Laugh.) [1:07] >> All right. With that I will [1:16] ask the clerk to call the roll. [1:22] (Roll call.) [1:43] >> Okay. We have 8 members [1:45] present. [1:45] >> We have a quorum. Next we'll [1:47] go to the minutes. Is there a [1:48] motion to approve the minutes of [1:49] June 16th, 20 that 25. [1:51] >> So moved. [1:52] >> Is there a second. [1:53] >> Second. [1:54] >> All right. Is there any [1:55] discussion on those minutes? [1:56] Seeing none, all in favor say [1:58] aye. [1:58] >> Aye. [1:59] >> Opposed say nay. [2:02] Abstentions? The minutes are [2:03] adopted. [2:04] Next we will organize the [2:06] agenda. I'm going to read [2:07] through the different items and [2:10] we're going to put each item [2:12] either on consent or discussion. [2:13] If it's on consent then we're [2:14] going to vote for them all at [2:15] once. If it's discussion then [2:17] you'll have an opportunity to [2:19] speak on them. So if you want [2:21] to speak against the staff [2:23] recommendation when I go to the [2:25] item, I'll say whether anyone [2:28] wants to speak on that, raise [2:29] your hand at that time. [2:31] So staff of is recommending [2:33] that items 6 and 9 be on [2:38] discussion, and I am also [2:39] putting 5 on discussion. Staff [2:42] is recommending the rest of the [2:43] items for consent so I'm going [2:44] to read through those ones. [2:46] First No. 4, 350 and 360 north [2:48] 5th street, Ward 3. Is there [2:51] anyone here to speak against the [2:52] staff recommendation on [2:54] Item No. 4? All right. [2:57] Item No. We're discussing. [2:59] 6 we're discussing. Item No. 7, [3:03] 2900 Clinton avenue. Is there [3:04] anyone here to speak against the [3:06] staff recommendation for 20900 [3:08] Clinton avenue? All right. [3:09] We'll put Item No. 7 on [3:12] discussion. [3:12] No. 8, 2801 is there anyone [3:21] here to speak against [3:23] Item No. 8? Seeing none. [3:25] Item No. 9 will be on [3:27] discussion. [3:27] >> Chair Meyer. I would like a [3:29] short presentation on 8. We're [3:30] still going to get that; right? [3:34] All right. Thank you. [3:35] >> We can put that on [3:36] discussion. [3:36] >> Yeah, thank you. [3:37] >> Okay. So to review, item 4 [3:43] on consent, 5 on discussion, 6 [3:44] on discussion, 7 on consent, 8 [3:47] on discussion, 9 on discussion. [3:49] Is there a motion to [3:51] approve the agenda? [3:52] >> So moved. [3:53] >> Is there a second. [3:54] >> Second. All in favor say [3:55] aye. [3:56] >> Aye. [3:56] >> Opposed, the agenda is [3:59] adopted. [3:59] All right. So first we'll [4:01] move to the consent agenda so if [4:06] you are here for items 4 and 7 [4:08] and just wanted to say something [4:09] about it, now is the opportunity [4:13] to do that. So I'm opening the [4:14] hearing for it. Would anyone [4:16] like to speak on any have those. [4:18] All right. Is no -- any of [4:20] those. Not seeing any we'll [4:21] close the consent agenda. Is [4:22] there a motion -- first, is [4:23] there any discussion from [4:25] commissioners? Commissioner [4:27] Chowdhury? You had your light [4:28] on. Sorry. [4:33] Anyone else have [4:39] discussion? [4:39] All right. Seeing none, [4:40] all in favor of the consent [4:41] agenda say aye. [4:42] >> Aye. [4:43] >> Any abstentions or against? [4:46] The consent agenda is adopted. [4:49] All right. So we'll move [4:50] to our first discussion item, [4:52] Item No. 5. Staff is [4:57] Hilary Dvorak. This is 3601 -- [5:11] 3701 and 3601 Washington avenue. [5:27] >> Okay. Good afternoon, [5:28] commissioners. I'm hurl Hilary. [5:31] A principal city planner in land [5:34] use preservation section. I'm [5:35] here to speak to Item No. 5 this [5:38] evening for the properties at [5:40] 3701 and 3601 Washington avenue [5:44] north. This is located in north [5:47] Minneapolis just two blocks west [5:49] of the Mississippi River and [5:51] just south of Dowling avenue. . [5:55] FOR ORIENTATION, DOWLING [5:57] AVENUE OR NORTH IS ON YOUR RIGHT [6:01] SO THIS IS THE NORTH END OF THE [6:04] SITE. WASHINGTON IS ON THE [6:05] EASTSIDE OF THE SITE AND ON THE [6:07] BOTTOM OF YOUR SCREEN. [6:10] THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING [6:11] TO CONSTRUCT A 287-SPACE [6:16] PRINCIPAL PARKING LOT ON THE [6:16] SITE. THE PARKING LOT WOULD BE [6:18] DIVIDED INTO TWO ZONES. THE [6:20] SOUTHERN ZONE WOULD BE USED FOR [6:22] RIDE-SHARING AND WOULD HAVE 74 [6:23] PARKING SPACES AND THE NORTHERN [6:25] ZONE WOULD BE USED FOR PAID [6:27] PARKING. AND WOULD HAVE 213 [6:29] PARKING SPACES. THE PAID [6:32] PARKING SPACES YOU WOULD ORDER [6:35] THAT SPACE WITH THE PURCHASE OF [6:38] YOUR TICKET. [6:39] AND I SHOULD PROBABLY BACK [6:40] UP AND SAY THIS PROJECT IS FOR [6:45] THE COMMUNITY PERFORMING ARTS [6:46] CENTER OR CPAC WHICH IS LOCATED [6:48] IF WE 01 -- OR WILL BE LOCATED [6:51] 3701 WEST RIVER ROAD NORTH. [6:53] THAT PROJECT WAS APPROVED BY THE [6:54] PLANNING COMMISSION BACK IN [6:56] JUNE OF '23 AND THEY WILL BE [6:59] LOOKING TO BE PULLING THEIR [7:02] BUILDING PERMITS UNCLEAR WITH [7:03] OPENING IN -- THIS YEAR IN [7:05] SPRING OF '27 SO THIS PARKING [7:07] LOT -- BOTH THE RIDE-SHARE AND [7:10] THE PAID PARKING LOT SUPPORTS [7:12] THE COMMUNITY PERFORMING ARTS [7:14] CENTER THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN [7:15] APPROVED BY THE PLANNING [7:17] COMMISSION AND THE CITY COUNCIL [7:18] AND SO THIS IS PARKING THAT [7:20] SUPPORTS THAT HUGHS [7:22] -- SUPPORTS THAT USE. [7:23] THIS WILL BE TWO-VEHICLE [7:25] ACCESS POINTS LEADING INTO AND [7:28] OUT OF THE SURFACE PARKING LOT [7:29] ONE IS LOCATED MID-BLOCK ON [7:32] WASHINGTON AVENUE AND THE OTHER [7:33] ONE ON THE SOUTHERN END OF THE [7:34] SITE. THERE WILL BE GATES AT [7:37] EACH OF THE INSTANCES AS THIS [7:45] FAR* [7:45] PARKING LOT WILL NOT BE [7:46] AVAILABLE ON DATES THERE ARE NOT [7:46] EVENTS AT THE CPAC. [7:47] AGAIN THE PRINCIPAL PARKING [7:48] LOT WOULD SERVICE THE CPAC THIS [7:50] IS A 230 SEAT AMPHITHEATER WHICH [7:53] COULD HAVE UP TO -- SO UP TO 90 [8:00] EVENTS PER YEAR. TICKET EVENTS [8:02] WILL NOT BE SCHEDULED FROM [8:03] JANUARY THROUGH APRIL. THE [8:05] EXPECTATION IS THAT THESE LARGER [8:07] TICKET EVENTS WOULD HAPPEN [8:09] MID-MAY OR LATER. [8:11] FOR THE TYPICAL EVENTS AT [8:13] CPAC SHOWS PARKING LOT OPEN AT [8:17] 5:00 AND SHOWS END BY 10:00 PM. [8:21] AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT [8:22] OF THE CPAC, THE APPLICANT IS [8:25] REQUIRED TO DEVELOP AN EVENT [8:27] TRANSPORTATION MANAGEMENT PLAN [8:28] OR AN ETMP. THE PLAN IS TO [8:32] DEFINE THE TRANSPORTATION NEEDS [8:34] AND STRATEGIES THAT WILL BE USED [8:35] TO MANAGE TRAVEL TO AND FROM THE [8:38] CPAC AND LIMIT TRAFFIC IMPACTS [8:40] ON THE SURROUNDING [8:41] NEIGHBORHOODS. [8:41] THE DRAFT ETMP WAS INCLUDED [8:45] IN YOUR REPORT ATTACHMENTS [8:49] UNDER THE STRATEGIES [8:50] IDENTIFIED ON THE ETMP IS WHEN [8:54] THE DEVELOPMENT APPROACHES FOR [8:55] COMPLETION WHICH WILL BE A [8:57] MANUAL EVENT DAY OPENS. AFTER [8:58] THE CPAC OPENS IT WILL BE [9:01] MONITORED BY THE APPLICANT, THE [9:04] CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS AND THE PARK [9:05] BOARD AND THE ETMP WILL BE [9:07] ADJUSTED AS NEEDED. [9:10] SO FOR SOME BACKGROUND THE [9:12] CITY AND THE PARK BOARD AND THE [9:14] CPAC HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THE [9:18] PROPERTIES ON THE LARGER 53-ACRE [9:20] SITE SO THIS IS ONE PARCEL OF [9:22] THAT LARGER SITE. [9:26] THE ETMP WILL NEED TO BE [9:29] APPROVED BY BOTH CPED AND THE [9:31] PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT BEFORE [9:32] THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY IS [9:34] ISSUED FOR THE CPAC. THE CPAC [9:36] WILL HAVE NO ONSITE PARKING FOR [9:38] THOSE OF YOU WHO WERE HERE MAY [9:41] RECALL THIS CONVERSATION AND, [9:42] THEREFORE, WILL RELY ON A [9:44] COMBINATION OF YOU SHUTTLE BUSES [9:46] RIDE-SHARE WHICH THIS [9:47] APPLICATION IS FOR. OFFSITE [9:49] PARKING WHICH ALSO THIS [9:50] APPLICATION IS FOR BIKING, [9:53] WALKING AND TRANSIT AS A MEANS [9:54] TO GET TO AND FROM THE [9:58] AMPHITHEATER. THERE ARE GOALS [9:59] THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED AND [10:02] WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF [10:03] PUBLIC WORKS AND YOU CAN SEE [10:04] THOSE MOLD SHARE GOALS FOR THE [10:06] DIFFERENT WAYS IN WHICH ONE WILL [10:07] GET TO THE AMPHITHEATER. THE [10:09] RIDE-SHARE PARKING AREA WILL [10:11] ACCOMMODATE 70 VEHICLES. THE [10:16] ETMP PROJECTS 32 PERCENT OR [10:17] PARTICULARLY 3,000 GUESTS WILL [10:19] ARRIVE VIA RIDE-SHARE SO THOSE [10:21] PARKING SPACES ARE GOING TO TURN [10:22] OVER AND OVER AND OVER LEADING [10:24] UP TO THE EVENTS AND THEY WILL [10:26] TURN OVER AND OVER AGAIN AT THE [10:27] END OF THE EVENT. [10:30] THAT THE PAID PARKING AREA [10:33] WILL ACCOMMODATE 213 VEHICLES. [10:36] IF EACH VEHICLE IS OCCUPIED BY [10:39] AT LEAST TWO PEOPLE WHICH WE'D [10:40] HOPE THAT'D BE IF NOT MORE THIS [10:44] IS APPROXIMATELY 5 PE5 PERCENT [10:48] THE OVERALL GUESTS. [10:48] I'M GOING TO GO UP ONE. [10:51] THE PARKING LOT IS LOCATED [10:52] APPROXIMATELY ONE-THIRD OF A [10:54] MILE FROM THE CPAC I'M GOING TO [11:01] SEE TO GET YOU A LITTLE CLOSER. [11:03] SO THIS IS THE PARKING LOT [11:04] THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY. [11:05] THE CPAC SITS RIGHT IN THIS [11:09] AREA. WE'RE UNDER SOUTH OF [11:10] WHERE THE ROAD -- THE PARKWAY [11:14] WEST RIVER ROAD WHERE IT JOGS [11:17] OUT TO THAT ROAD AND THE ARCH [11:19] THEATER WILL BE SITTING HERE. [11:21] SO FOR THOSE FOLKS WHO WEREN'T [11:22] HERE WHEN WE DID THE [11:24] AMPHITHEATER IF YOU DO [11:25] RIDE-SHARE DOWN HERE OR PAY UP [11:28] HERE THERE WILL BE TRAFFIC [11:31] ASSETS HERE GETTING PEOPLE TO [11:33] TRAFFIC AND CARS WHERE THEY NEED [11:34] TO BE. PEOPLE WILL WALK UP [11:36] WASHINGTON TO DOWLING, CROSS [11:39] DOWLING AT THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS [11:42] WITH OUR TRAFFIC CONTROL AGENTS [11:43] AND THEN DOWN WEST RIVER ROAD, [11:46] MAIN ENTRANCE TO THE CPAC IS AT [11:49] THE NORTH END ARE THERE. POINT [11:51] OF VIEW RIGHT THERE. THAT WOULD [11:54] BE THE PATH TRAVELED ON [11:56] RIDE-SHARE OR IF YOU HAD PAID [11:58] FOR A PARKING TICKET IN THAT [12:02] LOT. [12:02] SO IT IS ABOUT ONE-THIRD OF [12:04] A MILE FOR GUESTS TO WALK FROM [12:08] THE PARKING LOT TO THE CPAC. [12:11] THE MAXIMUM LOT SIZE IN THE [12:16] CORRIDOR IS ONE ACRE. THE SITE [12:17] IS 2.93 ACRES, THEREFORE, A [12:20] CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A [12:22] PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT OR PUD [12:24] IS REQUIRED. THEY HAVE APPLIED [12:25] FOR THAT. [12:27] PARKING LOT -- SURFACE [12:29] PARKING LOTS AND ANY ZONING LOT [12:33] IS ZONED AND SO THEY HAVE [12:35] APPLIED FOR A CONDITIONAL ZONING [12:38] PERMIT AND. [12:39] THE FIRST ACTION ON THE [12:40] AGENDA FOR THIS ITEM IS A PUBLIC [12:43] LAND CONVEYANCE FINDING THAT [12:45] THIS IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE [12:48] COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND WE ARE [12:50] ASKING THAT YOU MAKE THAT [12:51] FINDING TONIGHT AS PART OF THAT [12:55] APPLICATION. [12:56] FOR THE PARKING LOT -- OR, [12:56] EXCUSE ME, FOR THE CONDITIONAL [12:58] USE PERMIT FOR THE PLANNED UNIT [13:01] DEVELOPMENT THEY NEEDED 10 [13:01] POINTS OF AMENITIES TO EST [13:04] ESTABLISH -- TO ESTABLISH -- [13:11] WHOOPS. OKAY, SORRY. HERE WE [13:17] GO. OKAY. BE. [13:20] I'M GOING TO START OVER ON [13:21] THIS ONE. THAT'S WHAT I DO WHEN [13:25] I CAN'T FIGURE OUT, I START [13:28] OVER. LET ME GO TO THE [13:31] LANDSCAPE PLAN. I DON'T KNOW IF [13:34] YOU GUYS CAN SEE THAT. [13:36] >> WHILE YOU'RE LOOKING INTO [13:37] THAT HILARY, ONE OF MY QUESTIONS [13:39] WAS GOING TO BE HELP US [13:42] UNDERSTAND THE PEDESTRIAN [13:43] IMPROVEMENTS THE EIGHT POINTS [13:44] THEY'RE GETTING FOR THAT. [13:45] >> UH-HUH. [13:46] >> IF YOU COULD HIGHLIGHT THAT [13:47] THAT'D BE GREAT. [13:48] >> SURE. [13:52] IO. SO THEY NEEDED 10 [13:54] POINTS TO ESTABLISH THE PUD. WE [13:56] ARE RECOMMENDING 16 POINTS. [13:59] THERE'S ALSO SOME RATIONALE AND [14:00] THINKING BEHIND THOSE ADDITIONAL [14:01] POINTS IS THAT THEY ARE GOING TO [14:04] BE SEEKING A SIGNED PLAN FOR [14:06] THIS SITE TO ADVERTISE THE USE [14:09] AND SO THOSE ADDITIONAL [14:10] POINTS -- THOSE 6 ADDITIONAL [14:11] POINTS, 5 WOULD BE NEEDED FOR [14:13] SIGNS SO THEY WOULD ALREADY HAVE [14:15] THE POINTS. THAT STILL WOULD [14:16] COME BACK TO ALL OF YOU TO SEE [14:19] THE SIGNS BUT THE POINTS ARE [14:20] ALREADY THERE AND I CAN JUST SAY [14:21] FROM WORKING WITH DEVELOPERS ON [14:23] EARTH YEARS FOR PLANNED UNIT [14:24] DEVELOPMENTS -- IT'S MUCH EASIER [14:25] TO PUT THE POINTS OR THE [14:29] AMENITIES FROM THE START THEN [14:31] TRYING TO RETROFIT AND PUT WATER [14:36] MANAGEMENT AT THE TAIL END OR [14:39] AMEND IT FOR SIGNS. [14:40] SO THAT IS THE RATIONALE [14:41] FOR HAVING MORE POINTS ON THE [14:44] RECORD IF YOU WILL SAVING THOSE [14:46] FOR THE FUTURE FOR SIGNS.