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November 20, 2025 Affordable housing investments and additional shelter beds media briefing
Minneapolis City CouncilFriday, November 21, 2025
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[0:02] Hey everybody, we're going to be getting started here. Everybody's mic.
[0:10] I'm just going to leave that there. I have people talking. Yes, I can pass it by. Yeah,
[0:16] we're just doing things a little bit differently. We're changing up the format a little bit. Um making it a
[0:21] little bit more relaxed for you. Um this is going to be very brief. Um just a conversation with you all at a time of
[0:27] year where we know that a lot of the this news is at top of mind and we have some really good news to share today.
[0:33] So, we thought we'd do something a little bit different. Hope that's okay with you and we appreciate that. Um, and
[0:38] so I'll just turn it over to the mayor to kick things off. Thanks so much and thanks everybody for
[0:44] uh joining us here in our new space whether you've been here or not. Um, my name is Jacob Fry. I'm the mayor of
[0:50] Minneapolis and I'm here with Alfred Port who's the director of of housing with Enrique Velasquez who is the
[0:57] director of regulatory services and with our director of CPED uh community planning economic development which is
[1:03] Eric Hansen. Uh from the very beginnings of my time in office, affordable housing
[1:09] has been a top priority and specifically deeply affordable homes so that we are giving people who are experiencing
[1:16] homelessness the next rung on the ladder to pull themselves out. Uh as we've
[1:22] mentioned, we are producing more deeply affordable homes than ever before. About 8 and a half times the amount uh that we
[1:29] did just 8 years ago. And we want to continue that work. And that work
[1:34] becomes all the more important, especially in light of the message that came out of the federal Trump
[1:39] administration just this last weekend that uh recognized massive cuts to
[1:45] housing and urban urban development. This is monies that cities and counties
[1:50] around the country would get to provide shelter, to provide affordable housing,
[1:56] to put up community centers. some of the most basic work that the people in our cities depend on, that work has since
[2:04] been cut. But where the Trump administration is stepping back, the city of Minneapolis is stepping up. And
[2:10] today we're announcing $14 million being allocated to a number of different
[2:16] affordable housing projects and preservation of naturally occurring affordable housing projects so that we
[2:22] in Minneapolis can continue to move forward to provide people with homes even if the federal government is not.
[2:30] But on top of that, we are going to have an additional
[2:36] 126 new shelter beds by the end of this year. an additional 123 new affordable housing
[2:44] units set by the end of this year because we know uh that when times get
[2:50] tough, when the weather literally gets cold, we in Minneapolis have every obligation to make sure that we're
[2:57] providing dignified warm space so that people can live and so that they can be
[3:03] safe. Uh, and look, you don't have to look too far to understand why that
[3:08] matters. Um, there are families and moms out there that have to make really tough
[3:15] decisions to bundle their kids up to go sleep in the car. There are other people that
[3:23] have to ride the light rail or the bus, not to get to work or to get to a location, but literally just to get by
[3:30] and survive because they need to be warm. There's no family. There's no mom that
[3:36] should have to make those decisions. We in Minneapolis should make it so that they have a warm place to stay. And with
[3:43] those 126 new shelter beds that we're putting up, uh we can make sure that
[3:49] they have that ability. And by the way, we're not doing this by ourselves. Uh this is a partnership that we've got
[3:55] alongside nonprofit partners, the county and the state, because this work does
[4:00] not happen alone. the city is part of it, but we are a partner that is part of
[4:06] a coalition that cares deeply about the people in this city. And since 2018,
[4:11] uh we haven't just cared and talked about it. We've put those words into action and certainly put our money where
[4:17] our mouth is. In fact, $400 million uh towards housing and homeless response.
[4:23] Um that's one of the strongest, most sustained commitments of any city in the entire country. And so Minneapolis is
[4:30] proving what happens when a city actually leads. We build affordable housing at scale. We get people inside
[4:37] so that they're able to find stability. And we do that work even when Washington won't. So the bottom line is what I said
[4:43] earlier. When federal partners pull back, uh, Minneapolis is going to step up. And I'm deeply proud of again our
[4:50] other partners that we've worked with uh, and the leaders that I have with me uh, at this table. Um, and and I have
[4:58] the honor of handing it over to our director of regulatory services, Enrique Velasquez.
[5:03] Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Enrique Velasquez, E N R I T UE, last name V E L A Z Q UZ.
[5:10] I'm the director of regulatory services. Just kind of appending on to the mayor's comments. Homelessness is not just a
[5:17] number that we track. It's a reminder of people, neighbors, residents who deserve
[5:23] dignity and opportunity. Additional shelter beds are being added
[5:28] as we collectively continue to expand safe options for those sleeping in spaces unfit for human habitation. Our
[5:35] work is not only about beds and buildings. It's about restoring hope for people. Our homeless response team has
[5:42] helped hundreds of people this year, not just through outreach, but by connecting individuals to housing, health care, and
[5:50] hope. Each of these connections is a story of growth. It's a reminder that
[5:55] people first strategies and housing first strategies work. This work continues daily in
[6:01] collaboration with our partners across the entire continuum of care. Every organization, every outreach worker,
[6:08] every case manager, every person committed to this work plays a vital role. Together, we're not just counting
[6:15] outcomes. We're changing lives one person at a time. Awesome. Thank you.
[6:22] I'll turn it over to you, director Port. Good afternoon, everyone. I'm Alfred
[6:27] Port. I'm the housing director here at um the city of Minneapolis within the department of community planning,
[6:33] economic development. Name is spelled E LF R I C, last name P O RT. The mayor
[6:40] referenced um the amount of investment um financial investment that he's um put
[6:45] into affordable housing um housing and homelessness in particular. And I want to stress that that $400 million um
[6:53] addresses the housing continuum. Today we're talking about affordable um rental
[6:58] and own um and homelessness, but there is also a housing strategy for addressing um home ownership. So that
[7:06] those resources are um span the entire um continuum, the housing continuum. the
[7:13] trust fund. Um the affordable housing trust fund that we are um awarding $14
[7:18] million um to several developers to develop affordable rental housing units
[7:24] is is a significant milestone. Um during the course of the year we also closed on
[7:31] um several development projects and at by the end of the year we would have
[7:36] closed on 10 um affordable rental projects totaling 678 affordable um
[7:44] affordable housing units of which nearly half of those units are deeply affordable and deeply affordable is at
[7:51] 30% of the area median income. 30% of the med median income for context is for
[7:57] a family of four. It's about $39,000 annually. Embedded in um the mayor's um funding
[8:05] there is funding strategy. There is also $5 million of levy dollars that went towards the support of affordable
[8:12] housing. Min Minneapolis public housing authority used those resources to support the
[8:20] springs expansion project. That project includes 221 public housing units that's
[8:26] going to be rehabbed and 15 new affordable public housing units. This is
[8:32] Minneapolis staying focused, following our plan and delivering on our commitments. I'm proud of the progress
[8:38] that we've made and even more motivated um what what's to come. So, I appreciate it and I'll hand it back to the mayor,
[8:44] please. And we'll open it to any questions you might have. How are we
[8:50] hand Uh-huh. First and second. How about that? So, I'll ask Mayor um how are we doing
[8:56] with our homeless population? Um you obviously track it. Are there camps that
[9:02] are up with people? Is it just pockets of homelessness? I happened to drive down Cedar the other
[9:08] day under the bridge of Haywaka and there was random tents. So, I just sort of wonder
[9:13] about where you are that part of story. uh both homelessness and
[9:20] specifically unsheltered homelessness in the city of Minneapolis and in Henipin County has continued to decline. Um
[9:29] while other cities are seeing a pretty significant increase in homelessness and
[9:34] unsheltered homelessness, Minneapolis is seeing it go down. Uh the most recent
[9:40] wholesale statistic that we got was I believe a 33% reduction in unsheltered
[9:45] homelessness. Uh now that's still not enough. Again, there are other cities including those
[9:52] that have gotten a bunch of due credit a few years ago for uh reducing
[9:58] homelessness like Houston that is now are now seeing increases. Um, and so
[10:03] we're doing the kind of long-term work that is necessary to drive those numbers
[10:08] down to provide people with homes. Unsheltered homelessness, as you know, is a subset of the overall group of
[10:17] people who experience homelessness. Uh, unsheltered, you're not in shelter. So,
[10:24] you mentioned people who are in an encampment or you mentioned people who are sleeping outside. That would be unsheltered.
[10:30] Yeah. No, you it's a fair question. Um and so
[10:35] especially and including that group, we need to make sure that we are getting them
[10:41] inside, especially in a place like Minneapolis which is cold. We need to
[10:47] make sure that we get people inside. We get them wraparound services. We get them support and then ultimately we get
[10:52] them into permanent housing. Uh the first and quickest step there is getting them inside. And these 126 new shelter
[11:00] beds is exactly what this is geared towards. Yes, please. Melody with um so I was going to ask a
[11:09] similar question about a hot spot by Kmart that we keep seeing repopulate, but I think you answered the question.
[11:16] So, I will ask about the fencing that has been popping up and I'm just wondering if with this great new news
[11:21] about all the additional shelters if we're going to see if you're projecting
[11:27] and anybody can answer this um as we see these new shelter beds come online if
[11:33] some of your existing strategies with the fencing around some of those hot spots if some of that fencing might
[11:40] start coming down or what's your what's your strategy moving forward with that? Right. Right. It's it's a good question
[11:45] and I can turn it over to director Glacius here. Oh my god, that's funny.
[11:50] The other end the other end. You could be my hero, baby. Um
[11:56] um director Velasquez in a second here. Um
[12:01] uh what was your question again? It's about fencing, right? I'm sorry about music if you want. Yeah, I will do that too.
[12:07] Um about how all this new um with this new sheltering hopefully we're going to get some people Oh yes. Yes. Yes.
[12:14] And so but with the fencing like is that strategy going to be going offline now? Yeah. Like what's your strategy with that
[12:20] moving forward? Sure. Uh so some of the fencing is related to city of Minneapolis. Some of
[12:26] the fencing is for instance department of transportation at the state level and the county. Uh and so I won't make
[12:35] decisions for other jurisdictions but certainly we make a lot of these decisions in partnership. Um, in some
[12:41] cases, fencing has gone up not because of a lack of beds or something related
[12:48] to shelter. It's gone up because there is a drug trade that has been conducted
[12:54] along those specific parcels where the fences are now located. Um, to get into
[13:00] specifics about parcels and the likelihood of taking
[13:05] down that fencing and the timeliness of doing so. By the way, these are not permanent solutions.
[13:11] These are not good long-term or even medium-term solutions. Uh the fences in
[13:17] some cases have been set up simply for the safety of the residents in that area uh as to prohibit a significant drug
[13:25] trade which often results in serious violence along those corridors. Um but
[13:31] I'll turn it over to Director Velasquez for a additional question. For sure. For sure. I'll be your hero.
[13:38] Um so with respect to to fencing, some of the momentum around the fencing or
[13:44] the focus was really temporary in nature. Um more so as the mayor
[13:50] mentioned to interrupt that drug trade or the transactions that are constantly occurring and disrupting public safety,
[13:57] public health, and community livability. So when we start to see some of those
[14:03] different trends back down, then we can have the conversation with our partners about what a deescalation plan would
[14:10] look like to remove that fencing in concert with one another. We don't want to move forward as a city to remove
[14:17] fencing if the other partners are not quite ready to do that because then the problem will just metriculate into our
[14:25] area versus theirs. At the same point, if one of our partners are ready, we're not quite ready. We don't want a problem
[14:32] to just divert itself over to one of those other properties. So, we're working in concert with each other.
[14:39] If I if I may add, some of the properties are in um CPIDs inventory,
[14:46] the community planning development department, and those parcels are slated
[14:52] for development for housing. Right. So, so we have some of those some of those fences will come down
[14:58] eventually because development plans are in the works and once the development
[15:03] the developer closes those fences will come down to commence the construction and advancement of that development.
[15:10] Um, so uh regards to the federal news about reductions and funding
[15:16] first off I'm just wondering what impact do you think that will lead to with in the city? Do you foresee that leading to
[15:23] a big influx of people who are unshel experiencing unsheltered homelessness and what's your level of concern of if
[15:30] these new shelters and other things you talked about here will um cover that or
[15:36] will it lead to an increase experiencing
[15:44] because I don't know the precise dollar figures yet I can't give you the precise level of impact but what I will say is
[15:50] that It's deeply concerning and significant. Um,
[15:55] look, when you shift administrations, you always expect there to be policy
[16:01] differences. Uh, especially when the shift includes a differentiation between
[16:07] parties. When you shift between Democrats to Republicans, of course, there are going to be changes. Um,
[16:15] but in the past, we haven't seen this kind of wholesale cut of foundational service that cities and counties from
[16:22] both Democrat and Republican areas rely on. It was kind of one of those obvious
[16:29] streams of funding that we just need. We need them to house people. We need them
[16:34] to provide shelter. We need that money to provide the kind of basic city service that gives people dignity. And
[16:42] when those dollars are lost, we lose dignity along with it. Dignity that
[16:48] should be had by our communities that are struggling and
[16:56] hitting on rough times shouldn't be is not a partisan issue. You know, it's not like just Democrats
[17:03] are homeless. Um and so it's deeply concerning about
[17:09] these cuts that we're looking at. Is Minneapolis going to step up? The answer is absolutely. Is Henipin County going
[17:15] to step up? While I don't speak for them, I imagine the answer is absolutely. State of Minnesota, uh, you
[17:21] know, here in Minnesota, we have kind of these foundational values that we're going to stand on. And this these 126
[17:28] new shelter beds, that's one example of it. Um, but I'm quite confident that included in
[17:35] those 126 new shelter beds was federal funding. Yes. So it makes it all the hard much harder
[17:41] to do this in the future. Um, another thing I would ask is um
[17:47] what's your response to the people in who have been critical of your response to homelessness in regards to
[17:52] encampments whether it's um you know they feel as though such as
[17:59] re-encampment or others that they don't think services are being tried enough before they're cleared. I had people
[18:06] tell me that they were they could come back and get their things the next morning, but then came back there and it
[18:14] was already closed down. They couldn't get their things. Um, you talking about the Sabri camp? Yeah.
[18:20] Uh, we have uh with respect to the Sabri encampment and we can provide you plenty
[18:26] of documentation on this. We went out there numerous times.
[18:32] Uh, we offered access to shelter. We offered access to services, addiction
[18:39] treatment. We went out there with a mobile medical unit on site to provide
[18:45] people with additional health care, meeting them literally where they were at. And in
[18:51] most cases, we did these things multiple times. Um, so look, I do have to call a spade a
[18:58] spade. If if if the the argument is that we didn't offer services, that's just not true. Well, I mean for this last
[19:05] during the clearing what? Well, during the clearing, you know, this is not the way that anybody,
[19:10] including us, wanted to do it. We wanted to provide people with shelter options,
[19:16] give people access to storage, do this the right way, which by the way, we had been advocating for for months.
[19:24] We went so far as to sue the property owner. Um, and what ended up happening
[19:32] was exactly what we told people would happen. Um,
[19:38] these homeless encampments are not safe. Yeah.
[19:44] Could you talk about what this money came out of and why this figure is chosen?
[19:49] Uh, so the $14 million comes out of the affordable housing trust fund. Um, this is a fund that is set up so that
[19:57] developers of wouldbe affordable housing can apply to it and based on a criteria and a point system, uh, Elfrick over
[20:04] here and his excellent team is able to make selections. Um, the money for the
[20:11] 126 new shelter beds, uh, K, I don't know exactly where that came from. Yes, the the resources for the 12 um six new
[20:20] shelter beds came from a combination of the um ARPA dollars from the federal
[20:26] government and um local and and um dollars from the from the county.
[20:33] What's the 400 million? That's the total amount since 2018 that has gone into
[20:39] that has gone into housing and homelessness response. I mean we we have invested heavily. Yes,
[20:46] I do want to touch on
[20:51] the harmony said that he paid about $400 out of
[20:57] pocket for and then shows that with your name on
[21:04] it. Do you recall why those services are cancelled? And is there any city policy
[21:12] that prevents um property owners from installing
[21:18] portable restrooms on homes? Yeah. So as we look at our operating
[21:24] guide for encampments or even unsheltered homelessness which is available on the
[21:29] city website portaotties handwashing stations those are the responsibility of the property
[21:36] owner if they wish to install them. I made the connection between Mr. Sabri and the vendor when he discovered that
[21:43] there weren't that many vendors willing to engage in this specific work or in this space. So with respect to why is my
[21:52] name on that invoice ordering the removal, it was part of our protocol and process in response to the mass shooting
[21:58] that took place. That was when we activated our emergency operations center. That was one of the steps that
[22:05] we ran through and removed the portaotties. Had there not
[22:11] been a shooting on that encampment, would you have
[22:16] services? Not to No, I would not have
[22:25] this homeless
[22:32] gap. Are there more units? Where does that ratio sit?
[22:42] Yeah. So with respect to unsheltered homelessness presently, taking a look at our most up-to-date data, we have
[22:49] between 120 and 125 people who are living in spaces unfit for human habitation. That's vehicles, that's
[22:57] encampments, it's doorways, it's on river bluffs, variety of different areas where people where we're finding people.
[23:04] Um, so if they were ready and willing and
[23:10] were signed up to get into the shelter spaces, it would almost be one to one.
[23:16] If I may, if I may add, um, in the mayor's um, budget recommendation, there
[23:21] is also a million dollars that's year mark for emergency shelters. So, it's
[23:27] our hope that working with the county, we will add some additional um beds um
[23:33] during the um winter winter winter seasons. Our argument all along has been let's
[23:39] get people inside. To those that say we need wraparound services, we agree. To those that say we
[23:46] need culturally sensitive addiction treatment, we agree. to those that say we need long-term ability to get people
[23:53] in permanent housing. Of course, that has been foundational since my very first moment in politics.
[24:00] But again, we can do all of those things inside from a shelter, not outside,
[24:07] keeping people warm with propane tanks and open flames. And now
[24:19] can I can I ask you one more thing? Just um just because I think people are like
[24:24] the main criticisms I see sometimes are people who think that when responding to encampments um
[24:32] they they feel like it's kind of like they describe as like whack and like just moving people out of the way of
[24:37] being seen as public. Um So I guess just in terms of that and why
[24:43] you know funding for clearing containments is necessary in some situations and um people who think that
[24:52] this response is whereas Minneapolis is very staunchly like has opposed um you
[24:59] know the Trump administration's anti-LGBT or uh racial equity stances
[25:05] and things. Uh they feel as though with homelessness it's not as progressive as they would like. I guess just in terms
[25:11] of that what you would say people who feel that way. Uh
[25:16] look, we're straight up about this. Our goal is to get people in shelter and
[25:21] permanent housing. That's why we're providing 126 new shelter beds before the end of the year. Um there's not a
[25:30] single city in the entire country uh where large-scale homeless encampments
[25:35] has been a good solution. Several have tried it. It hasn't worked anywhere. talk to the mayors of those cities.
[25:40] Hasn't worked. Um, and here locally, I've said this a thousand times, it's
[25:46] not safe. And we saw that with the mass shooting at the Sabre property, and
[25:52] we've seen that with literal explosions happening countless times. Um, I have a deep responsibility
[26:00] to this city to keep people safe. Large scale homeless encampments doesn't line up with it. So mayor,
[26:08] we've seen huge not the chimneys and all the tents are you haven't seen those recently.
[26:14] So you're hoping that you're preventing that this year? You don't imagine you'll
[26:19] see any of those where the chimneys are. Yes.
[26:24] Right. The obvious of course that's how but it's not it if people are mentally ill or high or
[26:32] what have you. How do you actually Let's go to a shelter. They have all these
[26:37] obstacles in them from opening up to that possibility. Yeah. Yeah. So again, we are seeing
[26:44] unsheltered homelessness go down. Other cities, and you don't need to take my word for it, you can look at the
[26:50] data. Other cities are seeing a substantial increase in unsheltered homelessness. In Minneapolis, it's down
[26:55] over 33%. And continues to go down from there. Um,
[27:02] here's the one of the real long-term issues. What we're talking about here, especially with unsheltered
[27:08] homelessness, a large portion of it uh is in dealing with addiction, deep
[27:14] addiction to drugs like fentinol and opioids. Uh now what we have seen is
[27:21] that when people are either really high or they're going through withdrawal,
[27:26] they're far less likely to accept service. But there is a happy middle zone there where they are. That happy
[27:33] middle zone can be extended by a drug known as Brixadi.
[27:39] Uh it's about a thousand bucks per pop, but it lasts an entire month. It's worth every penny because it curbs the
[27:46] symptoms of withdrawal. giving people more time to make the decision themselves to accept the assistance. So
[27:53] when we go out there countless times with the county and with our homeless response teams, we give people the
[28:00] ability to make the decision and when they have those withdrawal symptoms curbed, they're more likely to say,
[28:05] "Yeah, but there's a next step." But there's got to be a next step. And now he's really lame. All right. I'm sorry. Well, but let me
[28:11] I'll finish. This is pretty new. Um, but there's a bunch of hurdles in order to administer
[28:16] on site. A bunch of hurdles legally. Uh, there's also the problem of when you actually take somebody into the hospital
[28:23] or into a treatment facility. They need help now, not in a week and a half when
[28:28] they get an appointment because we all know what's going to happen then. They need help right now. That's where the gap is. That's where we all need to be
[28:35] working together to make sure that those gaps are filled. We can do it. We can do it. It's gonna be hard and we
[28:42] just got to get the job done. I gotta get to the next thing. All right. Thanks everybody.
[28:48] Thank you. still here.
[28:57] So, the city's 311 services are a service for people.
[29:14] Is there any problems with staffing or anything?
[29:25] So I don't I don't I don't oversee 311. However, the the agents there do if it's
[29:32] specifically housing related or rental property related. Those two get funneled over to our inspection services division
[29:38] of regulatory services uh which I do oversee. Uh we have set up response
[29:43] times. So similar to MPD, there are priorities, priority one, priority two, priority threes with their own
[29:50] designated response time in which we need to respond. It doesn't mean necessarily that we're going to address
[29:55] that specific issue within 24 hours. However, we will respond to it in 24
[30:01] hours or if it's two days or three days, then that's that's the agreed upon
[30:06] response time. Um, but to my knowledge, we're not delayed in providing a
[30:12] response. And I think the most recent quarterly report from 311 shows that about 98% of the calls that we've
[30:19] received we've been able to address within the response time. Okay. And there's four fulltime staffers
[30:26] within the city's regulatory services in regards to homeless outreach. Is that correct?
[30:32] Uh presently four. We have five positions. We're just wrapping up the
[30:37] hiring of that fifth position right now. Okay. Is there any plans to expand those considering that
[30:45] this is the city? Um, yeah, we're evaluating what options
[30:50] we have. Uh, if we look at the 2026 mayor's recommended budget, there were
[30:56] actually six positions and one of them is being removed because it has been hard to fill. Um, that doesn't mean that
[31:02] we're disinvesting in homelessness response. We need to pivot as the state
[31:08] of homelessness continues to shift. We used to see sizable encampments. That
[31:14] was 2024 and 2025. We're not seeing that. We're seeing more need for
[31:19] behavioral health services, more need for social work, more need for other
[31:25] types of services. We're trying to figure out what the best complement is as we go into all these different spaces
[31:31] that are unfit for human habitation. If if I can also add that
[31:36] through the budget process. We have resources that we contract with the
[31:43] county through a joint powers agreement and those dollars are then used to work
[31:48] with um nonprofit providers who also provide street outreach activities. So,
[31:54] it's not just the city's um staff, it's the county staff and our nonprofit um
[32:00] providers. like everything that we do we do in collaboration with our partners.
[32:06] Um probably answered this before but I guess uh what's the general criteria for
[32:12] if it's like you have to get complaints or can it be for a number of reasons why
[32:18] decided it needs to be clear.
[32:25] So all encampments will be closed. The only question is when. So we do have
[32:31] four specific criteria that we look at. It's public health, public safety, community livability, and then are there
[32:37] other environmental factors or extenduating circumstances that would elevate one specific closure versus
[32:44] another? Is it next to a vulnerable population or a school or at a bus stop
[32:51] or something like that? So we evaluate all those different criteria when making the decision to close an encampment.
[32:57] And when will the shelters be open again? at the Indian Women's Resource Center
[33:03] and Kyle Garden. Are those open right now? I see the slide says projects open
[33:09] 425. All but all but the Simpsons um apartments and shelters open.
[33:16] You know when that um we believe by by the end of the year.
[33:22] Um, and I guess I can look up later like what are they like in terms of low barrier having requirements for like
[33:30] drug usage and stuff? Don't know the specifics and we can yeah we can follow up with you on that.
[33:36] And when there was the uh news recently of the reduction and federal funding did
[33:41] that start any conversations like we need to do additional things or um is that still ongoing that trigger? Henipin
[33:50] County is the lead community um um um
[33:56] continuum of care um provider in in the county and they're the responsible party
[34:03] but we are having conversations um with them about you know resources and next
[34:08] steps.
[34:18] Thank you. Appreciate it. [Music]
[34:35] Little sit over there.