[0:13] [ GAVEL ]. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS JASON CHAVEZ AND I'M THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE. I'M GOING TO CALL TO ORDER OUR [0:21] REGULAR COMMITTEE MEETING FOR TUESDAY, AUGUST 5, 2025. BEFORE WE BEGIN THE MEETING, I WANT TO [0:27] OFFER A FRIENDLY REMINDER TO MEMBERS, STAFF THAT THESE MEETINGS WILL BE BROADCAST LIVE [0:33] TO ENABLE GREATER PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. THESE BROADCAST INCLUDES REAL-TIME CAPTIONING AS [0:39] A FURTHER METHOD TO INCREASE THE ACCESSIBILITY OF OUR PROCEEDINGS TO THE COMMUNITY. THEREFORE, ALL [0:45] SPEAKERS NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF THE RATE OF THEIR SPEECH SO THAT OUR CAPTIONERS CAN FULLY CAPTURE [0:51] AND TRANSCRIBE ALL COMMENTS FOR THE BROADCAST. WE ASK ALL [0:56] SPEAKERS TO MODERATE THE SPEED AND CLARITY OF THEIR COMMENTS. AT THIS TIME I'LL ASK THE CLERK [1:04] TO CALL THE ROLL. >> COUNCIL MEMBER PAYNE. >> PRESENT. >> WONSLEY. >> PRESENT. [1:10] >> RAINVILLE. >> PRESENT. >> VETAW. >> PRESENT. >> OSMAN. >> PRESENT. [1:16] >> CASHMAN. >> PRESENT. >> JENKINS IS ABSENT. CHUGHTAI. >> PRESENT. [1:21] >> KOSKI. >> PRESENT. >> PALMISANO. >> PRESENT. >> VICE CHAIR CHOWDHURY IS ABSENT. CHAIR CHAVEZ. [1:26] >> PRESENT. >> THERE ARE NINE MEMBERS TOTAL. >> LET THE RECORD REFLECT WE HAVE A QUORUM. TODAY, WE'LL BE [1:36] RECEIVING COMMENTS RELATED TO LAW ENFORCEMENT. EACH PERSON WILL GET TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK OR COMMENT. OUR CLERKS CAN ALSO [1:43] ACCEPT WRITTEN COMMENTS AS WELL. I'LL BEGIN WITH REPORTS OF OUR STANDING COMMITTEES BEFORE WE TAKE UP OUR AGENDA ITEMS. WE'LL [1:52] FIRST BEGIN WITH THE ADMINISTRATION AND ENTERPRISE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE CHAIRED BY COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHAVEZ. THE [2:02] ADMINISTRATION AND ENTERPRISE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE IS BRINGING FORWARD 15 ITEMS. THE FIRST IS GIFT ACCEPTANCE FROM THE MAYOR'S INNOVATION PROJECT FOR TRAVEL, [2:09] LODGING, AND CONFERENCE REGISTRATION. MAIL EXPENSES FOR [2:15] AMANDA HARRINGTON TO ATTEND THE MAYOR'S SUMMER 2025 MEETING IN [2:23] ALBUQUERQUE. SECOND IS A GIFT ACCEPTANCE FROM THE BIG CITIES HEALTH COALITION OF [2:29] REGISTRATION, LODGING, AND TRANSPORTATION AND MEALS FOR HEIDI RITCHIE TO ATTEND THE BCHC [2:39] FROM DECEMBER 8TH THROUGH THE 10TH OF 2025. THREE IS A GIFT ACCEPTANCE FROM ILLINOIS [2:48] ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH ASSOCIATION OF TRANSPORTATION AND LODGING FOR ADAM KALAHAR TO ATTEND THE [2:54] EDUCATION CONFERENCE AND OGLESBY, ILLINOIS, FROM NOVEMBER 5TH THROUGH 6th, 2025. [3:00] FOUR IS A GIFT ACCEPTANCE FROM NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF COUNTY HEALTH OFFICIALS OF [3:05] REGISTRATION, HOTEL, AIRFARE, MEAL AND TRANSPORTATION FOR DAMON CHAPLIN TO PRESENT AT THE [3:11] NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF LOCAL BOARDS OF HEALTH ANNUAL CONFERENCE IN SAVANNAH, GEORGIA, [3:18] FROM AUGUST 5TH-8TH, 2025. FIVE IS A CONTRACT WITH BRI PARENT, [3:24] INC., BENEFIT RESOURCE, LLC FOR COBRA ADMINISTRATION SERVICES. [3:31] SIX IS A CONTRACT WITH THE REGENTS OF THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA FOR BENCH-SCALE OZONE [3:38] TESTING RESEARCH. SEVEN IS CONTRACT WITH HAGEN, [3:43] CHRISTENSEN, MCILWAIN ARCHITECT DESIGN SERVICES. EIGHT IS A [3:48] CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH UKG KRONOS SYSTEMS FOR PROVIDING [3:55] TIMEKEEPING AND SCHEDULING SERVICES SOFTWARE. NINE IS CONTRACT AMENDMENTS WITH [4:02] COMMUNITY . 10 IS A LICENSE AGREEMENT WITH METROPOLITAN [4:09] COUNCIL FOR THE METRO PASS PROGRAM. 11 IS ACCEPTANCE OF BID [4:16] FOR ADA IMPROVEMENT. 12 IS [4:23] CONTRACT AMENDMENTS WITH MULTIPLE AGENCIES. 13 IS CONTRACTS WITH RESTORATION INC. [4:28] FOR 2025 MINNEAPOLUS STRATEGIC OUTREACH INITIATIVE SERVICES. 14 [4:38] IS CONTRACTS FOR NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY DEPARTMENT. AND THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED [4:43] $3.1 MILLION IN TOTAL. AND 15 IS A CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH CANOPY [4:50] ROOTS FOR BEHAVIORAL CRISIS RESPONSE PROGRAM SERVICES. WITH THAT, I WILL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU. THERE ARE NO [4:56] QUESTIONS. I'D LIKE TO ANNOUNCE THAT WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY VICE CHAIR CHOWDHURY. AND NEXT UP, WE [5:07] HAVE THE BUSINESS, HOUSING AND ZONING COMMITTEE CHAIRED BY COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN. >> WE'LL BE BRINGING 12 ITEMS TO [5:19] THE FULL COUNCIL. ITEM 3 IS GRANTING AN APPEAL TO PORT [5:24] MINNEAPOLIS FOR THE PROPERTIES AT 3601 AND 3701 WASHINGTON [5:38] AVENUE. -- ITEM 7 IS APPROVING REZONING APPLICATION FROM 1600 [5:44] WEST LAKE STREET LLC THREE ZONED PROPERTIES LOCATED THERE. ITEM 8 [5:49] IS APPROVING REZONING APPLICATION FROM WESSAM SONBOL TO REZONE THE PROPERTIES AT 2900 [5:57] CLINTON AVENUE. ITEM 9 IS AUTHORIZING OWNERSHIP AND OPPORTUNITY FUND LOAN TO [6:03] PLYMOUTH ACADEMY. ITEM 10 IS [6:09] AUTHORIZING CONSENT. ITEM 11 AUTHORIZING TEMPORARY [6:15] CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT FOR 1005 WEST BROADWAY TO BE IN [6:20] CONJUNCTION WITH DEMOLITION OF 1001 WEST BROADWAY. LASTLY, ITEM 12 IS ACCEPTING AND AUTHORIZING [6:27] A GRANT FROM THE U.S. DEMENT DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING. WITH THAT, I WILL STAND FOR [6:33] QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU. THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS. NEXT UP WE HAVE THE [6:39] CLIMATE AND INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE, CHAIRED BY COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THE CLIMATE AND INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE IS BRINGING FORWARD [6:45] SIX ITEMS THIS WEEK. ITEM 1, IS [6:53] AUTHORIZING EASEMENT. ITEM 2 IS AUTHORIZING AN AGREEMENT FOR THE [7:00] 27th AVENUE NORTHEAST RAILROAD CROSSING IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. ITEM 3 IS APPROVING BLOCK EVENT [7:07] PERMIT FOR THE DOWNTOWN MINNEAPOLIS STREET ART FESTIVAL WHICH WILL BE AUGUST 9TH THROUGH 10th. ITEM 4 IS AUTHORIZING AN [7:16] MOU WITH BNSF RAILWAY TO STORE EMERGENCY RESPONSE EQUIPMENT ON [7:24] CITY PROPERTY. ITEM 5 IS ADOPTING A FEE ASSESSMENT, AND [7:29] SETTING A PUBLIC HEARING FOR SEPTEMBER 30TH FOR THOSE ASSESSMENTS. ITEM 6 IS ADOPTING [7:34] REPORT DESIGNATING THE 2026 CITY WIDE STREET MAINTENANCE [7:40] ASSESSMENT AND SETTING A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE SAME DAY, SEPTEMBER 30TH FOR ASSESSMENTS. [7:45] I'LL STAND FOR QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU. THERE ARE NO [7:52] QUESTIONS. AND LASTLY, WE HAVE [7:57] THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY COMMITTEE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY. >> THANK YOU. THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY COMMITTEE IS BRINGING FORWARD FOUR ITEMS. THE FIRST [8:03] ITEM IS A PASSAGE OF ORDINANCE RELATED TO EARNED SICK AND PAID [8:11] TIME. THIS CAME TO COMMITTEE WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION. ITEM TWO IS AUTHORIZING A GRANT ACCEPTANCE FROM THE MINNESOTA [8:18] DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH FOR A PUBLIC HEALTH RESPONSE SUSTAINABILITY GRANT TO SUPPORT LOCAL RESPONSE TO EMERGENCIES. [8:24] THREE IS APPROVING APPOINTMENT TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH ADVISORY COMMITTEE. AND FOUR IS [8:30] AUTHORIZING A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING FOR A DOJ GRANT [8:36] FUNDED PROJECT FOR PREVENTION AND INTERVENTION OF SEXUAL ASSAULT, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, [8:42] STALKING AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING. WITH THAT, I WILL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. [8:51] >> THANK YOU. THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS. NOW WE WILL BE [8:57] RECEIVING AND FILING A REPORT. I [9:03] WILL HAND IT OVER FOR A PRESENTATION. WELCOME. [9:15] >> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHAVEZ, COUNCIL MEMBERS. AS CHAIR CHAVEZ [9:22] INTRODUCED, I'M ROBERT TIMMERMAN, THE CITY AUDITOR, I'M HERE WITH RYAN FRANSON TO [9:27] PRESENT THE RESULTS OF THE LIMITED SCOPE REVIEW THAT WE DID ON THE CITY'S RESPONSE TO [9:33] FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT ACTION THAT OCCURRED ON JUNE 3RD, 2025. [9:39] IN BRIEF, WE WILL BE GOING OVER WHY AUDIT WAS ASKED TO PERFORM [9:45] THIS REVIEW, AND THE BENEFITS OF HAVING AN INDEPENDENT AND OBJECTIVE BODY DO SO. WE WILL [9:52] TALK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED ON JUNE 3RD, 2025. WE WILL COVER THE OBJECTIVE QUESTIONS THAT WE [9:58] TRIED TO ANSWER IN OUR AUDIT. AND WE WILL OUTLINE ALSO WHAT WE DID AS A PART OF THIS REVIEW. [10:04] AND THEN FINALLY, WE'LL COVER SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE'VE DEVELOPED FOR THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER, BUT ALSO FOR THE [10:10] ADMINISTRATION TO CONSIDER. WE'LL MAKE SURE TO LEAVE TIME AT THE END FOR QUESTIONS. SO WHY [10:17] THE CITY AUDITOR. IT IS MY DUTY AS THE CITY AUDITOR AND MY [10:23] OBLIGATION TO CONDUCT EXAMINATIONS OF CITY OPERATIONS TO IMPROVE THE MANAGEMENT OF [10:28] CITY POLICY, FUNCTIONS, AND PROGRAMS. OUR OFFICE DOES SO IN A MANNER THAT IS INDEPENDENT AND [10:35] FREE FROM INTERFERENCE OR UNDUE INFLUENCE THAT MIGHT ADVERSELY [10:41] AFFECT OUR OPINION. MY PERSONAL MISSION SINCE STARTING IN [10:46] FEBRUARY, WHICH I'VE BROADLY SHARED SINCE THEN, IS TO HELP REBUILD AND STRENGTHEN TRUST IN [10:53] CITY GOVERNMENT. PROVIDING FACTUAL, UNBIASED, NON-POLITICAL REVIEWS THAT ARE FREE FROM [10:59] INFLUENCE WHETHER REAL OR PERCEIVED IS FUNDAMENTAL TO STRENGTHEN TRUST WITH MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. AUDIT IS THE LOGICAL [11:10] PLACE TO PERFORM THIS REVIEW SINCE IT IS THE ONLY FUNCTION ACROSS THE ENTIRETY OF [11:16] MINNEAPOLIS CITY GOVERNMENT THAT HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED BY THE VOTERS THROUGH CITY CHARTER TO BE AN INDEPENDENT EVALUATOR OF [11:22] ACTIVITIES ACROSS THE CITY. FURTHER, THE OFFICE OF CITY AUDITOR HAS JURISDICTION OVER [11:27] CITY COUNCIL AND OVER EACH BOARD, COMMISSION, COMMITTEE, DEPARTMENT, OFFICER, EMPLOYEE, [11:33] AND OTHER AGENCY OR AGENT WHO MUST COOPERATE WITH ANY AUDIT OR [11:38] INQUIRY AND FINISH ANY INFORMATION THAT THE OFFICE REQUESTS. THE MINNEAPOLIS AUDIT [11:44] CHARTER REQUIRES AMONGST OTHER THINGS THAT MY OFFICE CONDUCT INVESTIGATIONS OF ALLEGED OR [11:50] SUSPECTED IMPROPRIORITIY, AND PROVIDE REPORTS TO APPROPRIATE AUTHORITIES. IN THIS CASE, WE'RE [11:56] REPORTING TO THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE. BY ORDINANCE, THE [12:05] CITY -- THE OFFICE OF CITY ST AUDITOR ADHERES TO TWO SETS OF AUDITING STANDARDS. THE [12:12] INSTITUTE OF INTERNAL AUDITORS GLOBAL INTERNAL AUDIT STANDARDS, AS WELL AS THE GAO GOVERNMENT [12:19] AUDITING STANDARDS. I BRING THESE WITH ME TO EVERY MEETING I COME TO TO SHOW YOU IT'S NOT [12:25] JUST WORDS BUT STANDARDS THAT WE FOLLOW. BOTH SETS OF THESE [12:30] STANDARDS ASSERT INDEPENDENCE AND OBJECTIVITY TO BE THE ZENITH [12:38] OF AUDIT PRINCIPLES. LANGUAGE IN THE CITY CHARTER CODE OF [12:43] ORDINANCES AND AUDIT CHARTER. OUR OFFICE IS APOLITICAL AND INDEPENDENT FROM INFLUENCE FROM THE ADMINISTRATION, CITY [12:50] COUNCIL, AND ANY OTHER BODY OR INDIVIDUAL. I WANT TO QUICKLY [13:00] COVER THE STATE LAW THAT WE NEED TO FOLLOW UP UNTIL WE RELEASE AN AUDIT REPORT. AND THIS IS UNIQUE [13:06] TO THIS COMMITTEE BECAUSE NORMALLY WE RELEASE OUR REPORTS TO THE AUDIT COMMITTEE WHOSE [13:12] FAMILIAR WITH THIS. WE MUST BE CONSIDERATE OF WHO WE SHARE [13:18] INFORMATION WITH, BE MINDFUL OF HOW AND WHEN A REPORT IS PUBLISHED. AND FOR THESE [13:24] REASONS, WE'RE VERY PRAGMATIC IN OUR PRE-PUBLICATION PLAN TO [13:32] PROTECT THE INTEGRITY. THE REPORT IN THIS PRESENTATION [13:37] SHOULD SOON BE ATTACHED TO THE PUBLIC RECORD RCA, IF THEY'RE NOT ALREADY. THAT THEY WILL BE [13:43] ON THERE. WE ALSO HAVE COPIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE IN THE ROOM HERE. TRADITIONALLY, WE SEEK [13:52] WRITTEN RESPONSE FROM OUR AUDITEE. IN THIS CASE, BEING A LIMITED SCOPE ADVISORY REVIEW, [13:57] WE CHOSE NOT TO KNOWING THAT THERE WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR RESPONSE AT THIS MEETING AND IN THE FUTURE. IN THE LAST FEW [14:07] DAYS, I PROVIDED READ THROUGH OF THE REPORT TO COUNCIL PRESIDENT, CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE, CITY [14:12] OPERATIONS OFFICER, COMMISSIONER OF PUBLIC SAFETY, AND THE MAYOR'S CHIEF OF STAFF. [14:17] REMEMBER, MY JOB IS TO REPORT OBJECTIVELY. WE HAVE DONE SO IN THIS REPORT BY BEARING FACTS, [14:25] OBSERVATIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CAN HELP CITY OFFICIALS AND BODIES MAKE DECISIONS. AT THIS [14:32] TIME, I'LL TRANSITION TO COMMUNITY SAFETY AUDITOR, RYAN FRANSON, WHO WILL PROVIDE BACKGROUND ON THE EVENTS THAT [14:38] TOOK PLACE ON JUNE 3, 2025. THE [14:44] OBJECTIVES, THE LIMITED SCOPE, AND OUR METHODOLOGY FOR PERFORMING THIS REVIEW. [14:56] >> HOW ARE WE DOING ON VOLUME HERE? I'M SUPER TALL SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU CAN HEAR ME. COOL. OKAY. THANK YOU, CITY [15:03] AUDITOR TIMMERMAN. MY NAME IS RYAN FRANSON. I DO KNOW SOME OF [15:08] YOU. IT'S NICE TO MEET EVERYONE FINALLY. I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THE BACKGROUND FIRST. SO FEDERAL [15:16] LAW ENFORCEMENT PRESENCE ON BLOOMINGTON AND EAST LAKE STREET [15:21] OUTSIDE TAQUERIA MILLPAS. [15:29] OBSERVERS EXPERIENCED A MILITARIZED PRESENCE AND FEDERAL [15:34] AGENTS ADORNING ICE, DHS, AND HSI INSIGNIA. ON JUNE 5TH, THE [15:46] CITY COUNCIL UNANIMOUSLY REQUESTED THIS INDEPENDENT REVIEW. ON JUNE 9TH, THE CITY AUDITOR AGREED TO PERFORM A [15:53] SERVICE REVIEW. AT BASE LEVEL, WE FOUND NO RECORD OF COMMUNICATION REGARDING THE [16:00] FEDERAL ACTION BEFORE 9:57 A.M. ON JUNE 3RD, 2025, WHEN AGENTS [16:08] WERE ALREADY ON SCENE. FBI AND DHS DID NOT SPECIFICALLY REQUEST [16:15] M.P.D. ASSISTANCE WITH CROWD CONTROL UNTIL 11:14 A.M. COMPUTER AIDED DISPATCH, BODY [16:22] WORN FOOTAGE, AND POLICE REPORTS ALL CORROBORATE THIS TIMING. IN [16:29] FRONT OF YOU IS A CONDENSED TIMELINE OF THE EVENTS. I'LL READ THROUGH SOME OF THESE. SO [16:35] AGAIN, AT 9:57 A.M., M.P.D. WAS MADE AWARE IT WAS CALLED OUT OVER COMPUTER AIDED DISPATCH. AT [16:42] 10 A.M., THE CHIEF WAS MADE AWARE. AT 10:45, THE MAYOR WAS MADE AWARE. AT 11 A.M., THE [16:49] MAYOR'S OFFICE CONVENED THE SITUATION CALLED THIS IS NOT AN [16:55] IMMIGRATION ACTION. 11:14 A.M., FBI REQUESTS ASSISTANCE. SOME [17:02] OFFICERS DID ARRIVE A LITTLE BIT BEFOREHAND ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS. BUT BROADLY SPEAKING, [17:08] THEY ARRIVED AROUND 11:30. 12:39 P.M., A CIVILIAN INJURY [17:15] WAS REPORTED. 12:43 P.M., M.P.D. POSTS INFORMATION ABOUT THE ACTION ON X. AT 12:47 P.M., THE [17:25] POLICE CHIEF ARRIVED ON SCENE. AT 1:15 P.M., THE MAYOR CONVENES [17:30] MAC, THE MULTI-AGENCY RESPONSE. AT 1:50 P.M., CITY COUNCIL WAS [17:36] NOTIFIED. AND AT 3:54 P.M., THERE WERE TWO ARRESTS FOR [17:42] OBSTRUCTION. AND THEN WE ALSO [17:47] TOOK A BIT OF A LOOK INTO SOME OF THE EVENTS THAT OCCURRED AFTER JUNE 3, 2025. SOME OF [17:55] THOSE INCLUDE A PRESS CONFERENCE FOR OPERATION SAFE SUMMER ON JUNE 4TH, WHERE THE MAYOR, CHIEF [18:03] OF POLICE TOOK COMMENTS AND MADE STATEMENTS. ON JUNE 5TH, CITY COUNCIL REQUESTED THIS REVIEW. [18:09] AND ON THE 9th OF JUNE, IT WAS ACCEPTED BY OUR OFFICE. ALSO ON THE 9th OF JUNE, ASSISTANT CHIEF [18:17] BLACKWELL SENT A MEMO TO STAFF WITH GUIDANCE FOR WORKING WITH FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT. ON [18:23] JUNE 10TH, THE U.S. ATTORNEY'S OFFICE SHARED SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE INVESTIGATION THAT [18:29] TOOK PLACE ON JUNE 3RD. ON [18:34] JUNE 23RD, ASSISTANT CHIEF GAITERS PROVIDES OVERVIEW. ON [18:46] JULY 8TH, MINNEAPOLIS EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT PROVIDES TRAINING TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON ROLES DURING THE EMERGENCY. [18:53] OBJECTIVES. THE ASK TO COUNCIL WAS TO PROVIDE THE PUBLIC AND CITY COUNCIL AN INDEPENDENT REPORT AND ANALYSIS ON [18:58] COMMUNICATIONS AND ACTIONS TAKEN BY THE CITY AND MPD STAFF UP TO, [19:04] DURING, AND IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE INCIDENT. SOME ADDITIONAL [19:10] OBJECTIVE QUESTIONS WERE DID ANY CITY OFFICIAL HAVE PRIOR KNOWLEDGE OF THE FEDERAL [19:16] ENFORCEMENT ACTION ON JUNE 3RD. WERE STATEMENTS MADE TO THE PUBLIC BY THE MAYOR, CHIEF OF [19:21] POLICE, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TRUTHFUL? WAS THE CITY'S COMMITMENT TO REMAIN RESOLUTELY [19:28] INDEPENDENT OF ANY IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT BREACHED? DID THE CITY VIOLATE ITS SEPARATION [19:33] ORDINANCE? AMONGST OTHER THINGS WE REVIEWED POLICE REPORTS, [19:40] COMPUTER AIDED, BODY WORN CAMERA VIDEO. SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS, [19:46] COMMUNICATIONS BETWEEN INDIVIDUALS. I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE CITY OFFICIALS AND STAFF [19:51] WERE SUPER COOPERATIVE AT EVERY POINT DURING THIS INVESTIGATION WHETHER IT CAME TO US ASKING [19:59] QUESTIONS, MAKING MEETING REQUESTS. AND THEN A LITTLE BIT MORE CONTINUED. IN OUR REPORT, [20:04] WE ESTABLISHED A FACTUAL TIMELINE OF EVENTS AND COMMUNICATIONS, A PIECE OF WHICH WE JUST WENT OVER IN THIS [20:11] PRESENTATION. WE COMPARED MPD'S RESPONSE TO SEPARATION ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS. WE DOCUMENTED HOW THE CITY HAS RESPONDED SINCE THE [20:19] EVENTS OF JUNE 3RD, 2025. I WILL [20:28] NOW HAND THE PRESENTATION OVER TO AUDITOR TIMMERMAN. [20:33] >> WELCOME. >> THANKS, CHAIR CHAVEZ, COUNCIL MEMBERS. WE'LL MOVE INTO THE [20:39] OBSERVATIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS SECTION. CITY OFFICIALS DID NOT [20:44] HAVE PRIOR KNOWLEDGE OF THE FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT ACTION. THAT WAS ONE OF THE OBJECTIVE QUESTIONS EARLY ON THAT WE [20:50] WANTED TO LEARN. WE FOUND NO RECORD OF COMMUNICATION [20:55] REGARDING THE FEDERAL ACTION BEFORE 9:57 A.M., WHEN FEDERAL AGENCIES WERE ALREADY ON SCENE. CITY OFFICIALS LEARNED OF THE [21:02] FEDERAL ACTION AS EVENTS UNFOLDED. FBI AND DHS DID NOT ASK FOR MPD'S ASSISTANCE UNTIL [21:11] 11:14. THERE'S NO BODY WORN [21:16] CAMERA VIDEO AT THE SCENE OF THE FEDERAL ACTION PRIOR TO 11:17. [21:22] WHO KNEW WHAT AND WHEN. OUR NEXT OBSERVATION DOES HAVE A [21:27] RECOMMENDATION. THE OBSERVATION IS THAT STATEMENTS MADE BY THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND CITY COUNCIL [21:33] MEMBERS ON JUNE 3, 2025, WERE TRUTHFUL. WE VERIFIED STATEMENTS TO BE FACTUALLY ACCURATE AT THE [21:39] TIME THEY WERE SAID OR OTHERWISE COMMUNICATED. WE DO HOWEVER HOLD SPACE FOR DIFFERENT VIEWPOINTS AND INTERPRETATION OF THE EVENTS [21:45] THAT WERE UNFOLDING. THE OBSERVATION HERE IS THE CITY [21:51] ADMINISTRATION DID NOT NOTIFY THE CITY COUNCIL OF TRANSPIRING EVENTS FOR NEARLY FOUR HOURS, CAUSING AN INFORMATION VOID THAT [21:57] LED TO SPECULATIVE COMMUNICATION. SOME CITY COUNCIL [22:05] MEMBERS MADE SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS WHILE EVENTS WERE UNFOLDING, AND PRIOR TO OFFICIAL INFORMATION BEING COMMUNICATED TO THE [22:10] COUNCIL. FEDERAL AGENTS CONCLUDED THEIR ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS AND LEFT THE SCENE [22:16] BEFORE THE FULL COUNCIL WAS EVEN FORMALLY NOTIFIED. COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE LEFT WITH A VOID OF [22:21] INFORMATION AND AN URGENCY TO RESPOND TO CONSTITUENT CONCERNS. OUR RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THE [22:27] CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE DEVELOP COMMUNICATION SEQUENCING PROTOCOLS TO NOTIFY [22:33] COUNCIL LEADERSHIP DURING INCIDENTS OF GREAT PUBLIC INTEREST, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT COULD LEAD TO CIVIL UNREST. I [22:41] WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW ITEMS FROM THE PRESENTATION. I JUST READ THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE LEFT WITH A VOID OF INFORMATION. [22:50] BUT TO FURTHER EXPAND ON THAT, WE BELIEVE THAT IMPROVEMENT IN [22:57] COMMUNICATION ACROSS BOTH BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT AND UPDATES TO ORDINANCE ARE OVERDUE [23:02] AND INCREASINGLY URGENT. THESE EFFORTS WILL PROVIDE BETTER [23:07] CLARITY FOR CITY STAFF AND PROTECT THE BEST INTERESTS OF MINNEAPOLIS RESIDENTS. MOVING [23:13] ON, THE CITY DID NOT VIOLATE THE ORDINANCE. THIS INCIDENT [23:19] DEMONSTRATED A NEED TO BETTER PREPARE UNITED RESPONSE TO A REAL OR PERCEIVED FEDERAL [23:26] IMMIGRATION ACTION. WE OBSERVE THAT CITY ADMINISTRATION WORK TOGETHER FOR A SUPPORTIVE [23:32] RESPONSE ON JUNE 3RD. CITY ADMINISTRATION AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE CONVENED MAC, AS RYAN [23:38] STATED, TO COLLABORATE ON HOW BEST TO MOVE FORWARD AND COMMUNICATE THE EVENT INTERNALLY AND TO THE PUBLIC. OVERALL, THE [23:45] CITY'S RESPONSE WAS COORDINATED AND EXECUTED WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF CURRENT CITY [23:51] POLICY AND ORDINANCE. COMMUNICATIONS WERE DRAFTED AND DISTRIBUTED, AND RESPONSE WAS [23:57] COORDINATED IN A COLLABORATIVE MANNER. THE CHIEF OF POLICE MADE HIS PRESENCE VISIBLE ON [24:02] JUNE 3RD. THERE HAS SINCE BEEN DEBATE ABOUT THE APPROPRIATENESS [24:09] OF HIS PRESENCE. WE DO NOT OFFER AN OPINION ON THIS MATTER, BUT WE DO NOTE THAT IN THE VIDEO [24:15] FOOTAGE WE REVIEWED, HIS PRESENCE DEMONSTRATED A CALM. HE PROVIDED INFORMATION TO MEMBERS [24:21] OF THE PUBLIC, AND REPEATEDLY EXPLAINED THAT THAT LAW [24:27] ENFORCEMENT WAS NOT THERE RELATED TO IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT. WE LEARNED FROM THE [24:35] 911 STAFF THAT THE COMMUNITY SAFETY COMMISSIONER TODD [24:43] BARNETTE VISITS THE MINNEAPOLUS COMMUNICATION CENTER TO STAY APPRISED OF THE DEVELOPING SITUATION. SO AGAIN, THE CITY [24:52] ADMINISTRATION SHOULD INCLUDE EXPECTATIONS FOR THE MINNEAPOLIS [24:59] POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THEIR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PLANNING FOR WHEN A REAL OR PERCEIVED FEDERAL IMMIGRATION ACTION IS [25:07] IDENTIFIED. WE TALKED ABOUT THE SEPARATION ORDINANCE NOT BEING VIOLATED, AND WE'LL GET INTO [25:13] WHAT THE EXISTING SEPARATION ORDINANCE IS HERE IN A MOMENT. ON THE SCREEN, WE'VE PULLED [25:21] THREE KEY ITEMS FROM THE [25:27] MINNEAPOLIS CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE 2, CHAPTER 19. SECTION [25:35] 19.30 IS THE SECTION SPECIFIC TO PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICIALS. AND A1, [25:43] A3, A4 BEING MOST RELEVANT TO THIS REVIEW. REGARDING SECTION [25:50] A1, MINNEAPOLIS POLICE DEPARTMENT OFFICERS DID NOT TAKE ANY ACTION FOR THE PURPOSE OF [25:55] PROTECTING PURPOSES OF UNDOCUMENTED PERSONS NOR TO VERIFY IMMIGRATION STATUS. THERE'S NO INDICATION THAT MPD [26:02] QUESTIONED ANY PEOPLE ABOUT THEIR IMMIGRATION STATUS, AND OFFICERS WERE NOT DIRECTLY [26:08] INVOLVED IN THE OPERATION TAKING PLACE. A3, MPD OFFICERS DID NOT [26:15] QUESTION, ARREST, OR DETAIN ANY PERSONS FOR VIOLATION OF FEDERAL CIVIL IMMIGRATION LAWS. TWO [26:21] PERSONS WERE ARRESTED BY MPD LATER IN THE AFTERNOON AFTER [26:27] FEDERAL AGENTS HAD ALREADY LEFT THE AREA. THESE PEOPLE WERE ARRESTED FOR OBSTRUCTION, AND [26:34] IMMIGRATION STATUS WAS NOT A FACTOR IN ARRESTING OR CHARGING. [26:44] SECTION A4 -- IN RESPONSE TO CALLS FROM DHS AND FBI, AS [26:51] PREVIOUSLY NOTED, ACCORDING TO A FEDERAL STATEMENT -- SORRY, AS [26:57] NOTED IN A FEDERAL STATEMENT MADE BY THE U.S. ATTORNEY'S OFFICE OF THE DISTRICT OF [27:03] MINNESOTA, THE SEARCH WARRANTS THAT WERE BEING EXECUTED BY THE [27:09] FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS WERE RELATED TO NARCOTICS, MONEY [27:14] LAUNDERING, AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING. I SAY THIS LIGHTLY BECAUSE NOBODY KNEW THAT AT THE TIME. THE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION [27:22] ACCORDING TO THEIR STATEMENT WAS CONDUCTED BY THE FBI, HSI, DEA, [27:28] IRS, ATF, USMS, AND HENNEPIN COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, NOT THE [27:36] MINNEAPOLIS POLICE DEPARTMENT. BASED ON AVAILABLE INFORMATION, WE FOUND THAT THE ACTIONS TAKEN [27:42] BY MPD FALL WITHIN PERMISSIONS LISTED ON THIS SLIDE. THERE'S ADDITIONAL ANALYSIS IN THE [27:48] REPORT THAT'S BEEN RELEASED TODAY RELATED TO MINNEAPOLIS POLICY. WE ALSO DID NOT FIND ANY [27:58] INDICATION THAT OFFICERS VIOLATED POLICY. ALL RIGHT. [28:03] MOVING ON TO THE SEPARATION ORDINANCE AS A WHOLE. THE ORDINANCE WAS FIRST ADOPTED LONG [28:12] BEFORE THE -- OR BEFORE THE CREATION OF ICE, AND IT HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED SIGNIFICANTLY SINCE [28:18] ITS ADOPTION IN 2003. WE RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY COUNCIL [28:26] REVIEW THE SEPARATION ORDINANCE TO CONSIDER POTENTIAL UPDATES. I HAVE MORE THOUGHTS ON THAT THAT [28:31] ARE IN THE REPORT. BUT WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF THE MECHANISM [28:37] IN WHICH WE MAKE THOSE UPDATES CONSIDERING THE COUNCIL'S AUTHORITY AND JURISDICTION. SO [28:43] THAT IS WHY THE STATEMENT IS THAT IT SHOULD REVIEW THE [28:49] SEPARATION ORDINANCE. IN REALITY, THE SEPARATION ORDINANCE IS OUTDATED, AND WHETHER IT'S THE ORDINANCE [28:56] ITSELF THAT'S UPDATED OR SOME OTHER MECHANISM, THERE NEEDS TO [29:01] BE CLARIFICATION IN EXPECTATIONS. ADDITIONALLY, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SHOULD UPDATE [29:06] ITS RELATED POLICIES BASED ON INFORMATION WE SHARE IN THIS REPORT. IN ADDITION TO THE [29:15] SECTIONS THAT I ALREADY HIGHLIGHTED IN THE SEPARATION ORDINANCE, WE BELIEVE THE ENTIRE [29:21] ORDINANCE IS RIPE FOR REVIEW UNDER A MODERN LENS. LANGUAGE SUCH AS THAT FOUND IN THE [29:27] SEPARATION ORDINANCE'S PURPOSE AND POLICY STATEMENT MAY CONTRADICT MANY PEOPLE'S [29:34] UNDERSTANDING OF ITS PROTECTIONS. THAT STATEMENT READS, THE CITY WORKS COOPERATIVELY WITH HOMELAND [29:41] SECURITY AS IT DOES WITH ALL STATE AND FEDERAL AGENCIES. BUT THE CITY DOES NOT OPERATE ITS [29:47] PROGRAMS FOR THE PURPOSE OF ENFORCING FEDERAL IMMIGRATION LAWS." [29:52] AS I MENTIONED, ULTIMATELY, WE DEFER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S [30:01] OFFICE -- TO FORMALIZE THE CITY'S EXPECTATIONS RELATED TO [30:07] ITS INVOLVEMENT IN FEDERAL IMMIGRATION. TACTICS HAVE [30:13] CHANGED DRAMATICALLY SINCE THE ORDINANCE IN 2003. UPDATES TO [30:18] THE ORDINANCE ARE OVERDUE AND INCREASINGLY URGENT. THESE EFFORTS WILL PROVIDE BETTER [30:24] CLARITY FOR CITY STAFF AND PROTECT THE BEST INTEREST OF MINNEAPOLIS RESIDENTS. FINALLY, [30:33] IN OUR LAST OBSERVATION WITH RECOMMENDATION, THE CITY COUNCIL ASKS THAT WE REVIEW ACTIONS [30:39] TAKEN BY CITY -- EXCUSE ME, BY CITY AND MPD STAFF UP TO, [30:45] DURING, AND IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE INCIDENT ON JUNE 3RD. AS A PART OF OUR REVIEW OF [30:52] COMMUNICATIONS, MEDIA, BODY WORN CAMERA, AND OTHER EVIDENCE, WE FOUND THAT THREE CITY EMPLOYEES [30:59] IN THE LEGISLATIVE DEPARTMENT PARTICIPATED IN DEMONSTRATION ACTIVITIES. NUANCES EXIST THAT [31:07] DID NOT LEAD TO A CLEAR VIOLATION OF THE CODE OF -- THE [31:12] CITY'S CODE OF ETHICS. WE BRING THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION AS A [31:19] RECOMMENDATION FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER WHAT IT DEEMS TO BE ALLOWABLE EMPLOYEE ACTIVITIES RELATED TO [31:25] DEMONSTRATE AND PEACEABLE ASSEMBLY. WE ALSO RECOMMEND CONSIDERATIONS BE GIVEN TO THE [31:30] FOLLOWING QUESTIONS, WHICH I'VE ALSO INCLUDED IN THE REPORT. IS THE EMPLOYEE APPOINTED? IS THE [31:39] EMPLOYEE FLSA EXEMPT? IS THE EMPLOYEE ON THEIR OWN TIME? WHAT [31:45] DEFINES THEIR OWN TIME IF FLSA EXEMPT? HAS THE EMPLOYEE OTHERWISE BROKEN THE LAW? ARE [31:51] THEY REPRESENTING THEMSELVES AS A CITY EMPLOYEE? DID THEY BEHAVE [31:56] IN A VIOLENT MANNER? WAS THE EMPLOYEE ON WORK PROPERTY? DID THE EMPLOYEE DAMAGE TRUST OF THE EMPLOYER? DID THE EMPLOYEE [32:06] DISRUPT CITY OPERATIONS? AND WHO IS THE APPROPRIATE APPOINTED AUTHORITY TO MAKE PERSONNEL DECISIONS? SO WITH THAT, I'D [32:15] LIKE TO SHARE A FINAL THOUGHT. AS I MENTIONED, I DID A [32:23] READ-THROUGH WITH COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE, CHAIR CHAVEZ, AND A FEW MEMBERS OF THE [32:29] ADMINISTRATION. AND I SHARED THIS SIMILAR SENTIMENT, AND THAT IS THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY [32:35] TO SEE THIS EVENT LIKE THE OFFICE OF AUDIT DOES THROUGH AN APOLITICAL LENS. I ENCOURAGE YOU [32:41] TO DO SO. THE OFFICE OF AUDIT -- [32:47] THE OFFICE OF CITY AUDITORS WORK AS PROMULGATED BY CITY CHARTER [32:53] AND STANDARDS IS IMPARTIAL, FACTUAL, OBJECTIVE, AND INTENDED TO HELP THE CITY BETTER ITS [33:01] PROGRAMS AND PROCESSES. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO TAKE THESE FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS THAT COME FROM THIS REPORT AND [33:07] THIS PRESENTATION TO COLLABORATIVELY IMPROVE PROCESSES TO HELP PREVENT [33:13] SITUATIONS LIKE THIS IN THE FUTURE. AT THIS TIME, COMMUNITY [33:22] SAFETY AUDITOR RYAN FRANSON AND I WILL STAND FOR QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION. NOW, IF COLLEAGUES [33:30] CAN PLEASE GET ON QUEUE, I ASSUME WE'LL HAVE COMMENTS OR [33:35] QUESTIONS OR A MIX OF BOTH. I DID WANT TO START OFF WITH A FEW COMMENTS AT LEAST. ONE, YOU ALL KNOW THAT I'M THE PROUD SON OF [33:42] MEXICAN IMMIGRANTS. IT IS SOMETHING THAT I AM VERY PROUD OF. NO MATTER WHAT AT THE END OF [33:48] THE DAY WHEN ICE IS IN OUR COMMUNITY, YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR ABOUT IT FROM US. THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT THE PRESENCE OF ICE [33:55] POSES A DANGEROUS THREAT TO OUR COMMUNITY NO MATTER WHY THEY ARE THERE BECAUSE WE HAVE A FEDERAL [34:00] ADMINISTRATION, THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, THAT TAKES PEOPLE AS COLLATERAL DAMAGE. THEY MAY BE GOING FOR DRUG [34:06] TRAFFICKING, SEX TRAFFICKING, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF THEY SEE OUR UNDOCUMENTED [34:11] COMMUNITY MEMBERS RIGHT THERE AS BYSTANDERS, THEY HAVE SHOWN THEY WILL TAKE THEM AS COLLATERAL DAMAGE. AND I THINK I WANT TO [34:17] EMPHASIZE THAT TODAY BECAUSE IT IS IMPORTANT TO NAME. WHAT I HAVE SEEN AFTER JUNE 3RD, IT HAS [34:24] BEEN A SANITIZATION THAT UNDOCUMENTED HAVE FACED IN THE CITY, AND IT PERPETUATES RACISM, [34:31] QUITE FRANKLY. ON JUNE 3, 2025, OUR COMMUNITY IN SOUTH MINNEAPOLIS ON LAKE AND [34:37] BLOOMINGTON EXPERIENCED TRAUMA, EXPERIENCED PAIN, AND ESCALATION [34:43] OF OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. THE ESCALATION WAS FROM OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. THEY WERE SENDING A [34:49] MESSAGE HERE TO THE COMMUNITY IN SOUTH MINNEAPOLIS. HAND TIES OUT IN THE PUBLIC. WHAT WERE THEY [34:55] DOING WITH HAND TIES ON LAKE AND BLOOMINGTON? WE HAD FEDERAL AGENTS WITH FACE COVERINGS, [35:03] ASSAULT WEAPONS, MILITARIZED LAW ENFORCEMENT WITH FACE COVERINGS. AND WHAT SEEMED TO BE THESE BIG [35:10] ARMORED VEHICLES ON LAKE AND BLOOMINGTON. THIS WAS AN OPERATION CARRIED UNDER THE [35:15] HOMELAND SECURITY TASK FORCE, AND TO BE CLEAR, INCLUDED ICE BEING PRESENT, AND MPD ON SITE. [35:23] THIS HAPPENED IN A CORRIDOR THAT IS LARGELY ON A LARGE IMMIGRANT [35:29] COMMUNITY. A LARGE DIVERSE COMMUNITY. AND I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR TO THE COMMUNITY HERE TODAY AND THAT IS LISTENING IN [35:35] THE PUBLIC, IF WE AS A COMMUNITY DO NOT QUESTION FEDERAL AGENTS AND INSTEAD ALLOW THEM TO COME [35:41] INTO OUR CITY THE WAY THAT THEY DID, WE ARE TELLING OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT ARE IMMIGRANT THAT THEY DO NOT [35:47] MATTER AND THAT WE ARE NOT TAKING THEIR SAFETY SERIOUSLY. I ALSO WANT TO LEVEL SET ON THE [35:52] REAL REASON THAT WE ARE HERE TODAY. THE GOAL WAS NEVER TO FIND OUT WHETHER THE CITY [35:57] VIOLATED ITS SEPARATION ORDINANCE, WHICH TO BE CLEAR, ALLOWS FOR COLLABORATION WITH IMMIGRATION CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENT. [36:03] IT'S NOT A STRONG ONE. IT'S PRETTY WEAK. BUT RATHER HOW THE CITY RESPONDED, WHY MPD WAS NEXT [36:11] TO ICE AGENTS. WHICH I WILL REPEAT AGAIN, M.P.D. WAS NEXT TO ICE AGENTS AND WHY THE CITY [36:17] BROKE THE TRUST WITH OUR IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY. AND WHY THE CITY WAS LEFT IN THE DARK DURING [36:23] THIS OPERATION? THAT SHOULD BE TALKED ABOUT. IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT THE RAID WAS FOR BECAUSE WE [36:28] KNOW THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS REALLY TO DISAPPEAR PEOPLE AS COLLATERAL DAMAGE POINT BLANK [36:34] AND PERIOD. AS I SAID NOW AND AS I SAID THEN WHEN IT HAPPENED, [36:40] THE CITY ORDINANCE DID NOT PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY. IT'S NOT A STRONG ORDINANCE. THE [36:48] SEPARATION ORDINANCE FAILED. WE INTRODUCED A NOTICE OF INTENT. IT'S BEEN REFERRED TO COMMITTEE TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A STRONG [36:54] SEPARATION ORDINANCE THAT SAYS THAT ICE IS NOT WELCOME IN OUR COMMUNITY. I ALSO WANT TO [36:59] ACKNOWLEDGE TIMES THAT WE ARE LIVING IN AND THE FEAR THAT OUR COMMUNITY IS EXPERIENCING, MANY [37:04] PEOPLE HAVE PRIVILEGE IN THE CITY. SOME PEOPLE WILL NEVER HAVE TO LEAVE SCHOOL WONDERING [37:11] IF THEIR CHILDREN ARE THERE, OR CHILDREN HAVE TO GO HOME WONDERING IF THEIR PARENTS ARE [37:16] GOING TO BE TAKEN BY ICE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE CALL THAT YOU'LL GET THAT YOUR [37:23] PARENT HAS BEEN TAKEN FROM THE WORK SITE. THAT'S A PRIVILEGE I HAVE SEEN AND THE TALKING POINTS [37:30] I HAVE SEEN SINCE JUNE 3RDRD. SANITIZING THAT ICE WAS IN OUR COMMUNITY, THAT THESE BROWN FOLKS NEED TO CALM DOWN AND [37:37] PRETEND THAT WE SHOULDN'T CARE THAT ICE WAS IN OUR COMMUNITY. NO, WE CARE. THE MOMENT ICE IS [37:43] IN OUR COMMUNITY, WE'RE GOING TO TELL OUR COMMUNITY THAT THEY ARE THERE. BECAUSE WE ARE NOT GOING TO ACCEPT COLLATERAL DAMAGE. [37:48] WE'RE NOT GOING TO ACCEPT BYSTANDERS BEING TAKEN BY A [37:54] ROGUE AGENCY. THE REPORT AFTER READING IT, IT TALKS ABOUT THE [38:00] ICE AGENTS WERE PRESENT FOR THIS FEDERAL ACTION. I'M GOING TO REPEAT THAT. BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S [38:06] QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. ICE AGENTS WERE PRESENT FOR THIS FEDERAL ACTION. ANYONE WHO SAYS THAT WE SHOULD NOT BE SPREADING [38:13] AWARENESS THAT ICE WAS PRESENT IS COMPLICIT WITH THE OUT OF [38:18] CONTROL TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. ANYONE WHO SAID ELECTED OFFICIAL SPREAD MISINFORMATION SHOULD [38:24] RETRACT THEIR STATEMENTS. THIS PROVES THAT COMMENTS FROM FALSE. [38:29] I WOULD ASK THE CHIEF TO RETRACT HIS STATEMENT AGAIN. -- [38:37] SANITIZED WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED IN OUR COMMUNITY. THE HIGHLY [38:42] MILITARIZED FEDERAL ENFORCEMENT ACTION WITH POOR COMMUNICATION [38:48] TO THE MAYOR, COUNCIL AND COMMUNITY WAS IRRESPONSIBLE, AND IT PERPETUATES SYSTEMIC RACISM [38:57] OF WHO MATTERS AND WHO DOES NOT. CITY COUNCIL WAS NOTIFIED THROUGH OFFICIAL CHANNELS AT [39:03] 1:50 P.M., NEARLY FOUR HOURS AFTER THE CHIEF WAS NOTIFIED, AND THREE HOURS AFTER THE MAYOR WAS NOTIFIED. SHOULD THE PUBLIC [39:09] HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT INFORMATION IN A TIMELY MANNER, THE SITUATION WOULD HAVE UNFOLDED [39:15] DIFFERENTLY. WOULD YOU AND TO THE PUBLIC WANT TO KNOW THAT YOUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE [39:22] OFFICIALLY NOTIFIED THAT MUCH TIME LATER. I DON'T THINK YOU WOULD. THE REPORT EVEN SAYS THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE LEFT WITH A [39:28] VOID OF INFORMATION AND AN URGENCY TO RESPOND TO CONSTITUENT CONCERNS. EMAILS BETWEEN CONSTITUENTS AND COUNCIL [39:34] MEMBERS WHO WERE ON THE SCENE SHOWED THROUGHOUT SUPPORT AND GRATITUDE FOR THEIR PRESENCE. MANY OF US SHOWED UP ON SCENE [39:40] HEARING THE STORIES OF OUR CONSTITUENTS AFTER RECEIVING CALLS, EMAILS, YOU NAME IT. [39:46] BECAUSE THEY WANTED US TO SEE FIRSTHAND HOW OUR CONSTITUENTS WERE TREATED. AND IF IT WASN'T [39:52] FOR MANY OF US SHOWING UP, FOLKS WOULD HAVE NEVER KNOWN THAT ICE WAS PRESENT IN OUR COMMUNITY, [39:58] AND THAT PRESENCE WOULD HAVE BEEN SANITIZED TO BE VERY CLEAR. WE NOW KNOW THAT THE CITY OF [40:04] MINNEAPOLIS WAS FIRST MADE AWARE OF THIS ACTION AT 9:57 A.M. ON JUNE 3RD. HOMELAND SECURITY [40:13] INVESTIGATIONS WAS CITED AND THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN TO BE VERY CLEAR AN IMMEDIATE RED FLAG AND [40:18] REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY, COUNCIL MEMBERS, IMMIGRATION JUSTICE ADVOCATES. I PROUDLY [40:24] REPRESENT THE 9TH WARD. I PROUDLY REPRESENT LAKE AND BLOOMINGTON. IT IS HOME TO A [40:29] LARGE IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY AND THE FACT THAT THERE WAS NO COMMUNICATION AFTER KNOWING ABOUT THIS BEFORE 10 A.M. IS [40:35] ALARMING TO BE VERY CLEAR. WHY IS IT THAT WE DON'T FIND FORMAL [40:41] COMMUNICATION UNTIL AFTER 1 P.M.? THAT'S IRRESPONSIBLE. WE [40:46] SHOULD NEVER LEAVE PEOPLE IN THE DARK. AND THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. AND I HOPE THAT'S [40:52] WHAT WE CAN ADDRESS IN THE SEPARATION ORDINANCE. AND I WANT TO READ A QUOTE FROM THE REPORT ABOUT AN OFFICER THAT SAID, "I [40:58] WAS CALLED TO ASSIST AT BLOOMINGTON AND LAKE WITH A FEDERAL SEARCH WARRANT. I WAS [41:04] AWARE OF THE WARRANT AT ABOUT 10 A.M. AND THAT FEDERAL AGENTS WERE IN THE AREA. WHICH I NEED [41:09] TO GET MORE CLARIFICATION ON THAT, SO MAYBE THAT CAN GET ANSWERED LATER. BECAUSE THAT'S [41:14] CONFUSING BASED ON WHAT THE CHIEF SAID, WHICH WAS REQUESTED -- HE SAID THAT THERE [41:20] WAS A REQUEST TO RESPOND MORE THAN AFTER -- MORE THAN THE HOUR [41:25] AFTER BEGAN TO ASSIST CROWD CONTROL DEESCALATION. WHICH IS CONFUSING BECAUSE SOMEONE FOUND [41:31] OUT I GUESS BEFORE THE CROWD FORMED. THE PUBLIC STATEMENTS AREN'T ADDING UP. SO I NEED [41:38] CLARIFICATION ON THAT. AND I'LL FINISH IT WITH THIS. WE'VE ALWAYS HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO AMEND THE SEPARATION ORDINANCE [41:43] BEFORE JUNE 3RDRDRDRD. UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN COMMUNITY MEMBERS BROUGHT THIS TO MY [41:49] ATTENTION BEFORE JUNE 3RD ABOUT THE NEED TO STRENGTHEN OUR SEPARATION ORDINANCE, I MET WITH [41:55] OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND THE MAYOR, AND I WAS MET WITH PUSHBACK. I HOPE AS A RESULT OF [42:02] THIS AFTER ACTION REVIEW THERE ISN'T PUSHBACK TO MAKE OUR SEPARATION ORDINANCE STRONGER TO [42:08] PROTECT OUR IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS, AND MAKE SURE THERE'S ACCOUNTABLE [42:13] FOLLOWING THROUGH. I BELIEVE WE CAN WORK TOGETHER, CHANGE COURSE ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO. I WANT [42:24] TO MAKE CLEAR, THE SEPARATION ORDINANCE IS NOT STRONG ENOUGH. IT ALLOWS FOR COLLABORATION WITH [42:30] ICE. IT CONTINUES TO PERPETUATE CITY COUNCIL BEING IN THE DARK, [42:36] WHICH IS NOT HOW YOU CREATE MEANINGFUL CHANGE. I'LL HAVE QUESTIONS AFTER. BUT I WANT TO [42:42] MAKE SURE MY COLLEAGUES HAVE TIME TO SPEAK. I'LL PASS IT OFF TO COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN. [42:47] >> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHAVEZ FOR ALL OF YOUR SPOT ON COMMENTS AND ALSO FOR BEING THERE THAT DAY. I KNOW IT BUILDS A LOT OF TRUST IN [42:55] COMMUNITY FOR THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND COUNCIL STAFF AND OTHER COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO WERE THERE THAT DAY TO REALLY PUT [43:01] THEIR BODIES ON THE LINE TO PROTECT OUR IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY. THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO WAS [43:07] THERE TO STAND UP FOR MINNEAPOLIS VALUES. I HAVE A FEW COMMENTS FOR AUDITOR TIMMERMAN [43:13] BECAUSE I AM VERY CONCERNED READING THIS THAT NO COUNCIL MEMBER WAS INCLUDED IN THE INITIAL INFORMATION CHANNELS. [43:19] AND THAT COUNCIL WAS NOT NOTIFIED UNTIL 1:50, NEARLY FOUR HOURS AFTER THE CHIEF, AND THREE [43:25] HOURS AFTER THE MAYOR. AFTER THIS, WE DID HAVE A NIMS [43:30] TRAINING WITH EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT AND LEARNED ABOUT THE JOINT [43:36] INFORMATION PROCESS. SO I'M WONDERING ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE MAC, WHICH IS THE [43:42] MULTI-AGENCY COORDINATION, AND A JIC IN TERMS OF THE AUTHORITY TO [43:48] ESTABLISH ONE. WHO DECIDES WHEN A MAC IS ESTABLISHED, WHEN A JIC IS ESTABLISHED AND THE [43:54] PARTICIPATING DEPARTMENTS. AS YOU SEE CLEARLY IN THIS, IT HAS SEVEN DEPARTMENTS LISTED AND NOT [44:00] A SINGLE ONE OF THOSE IS THE CITY COUNCIL. WE ALL HAVE 5,000 [44:06] SUBSCRIPTIONS ON EACH OF OUR NEWSLETTERS ALONE. IT'S THE BEST WAY TO COMMUNICATE WITH CITY [44:11] RESIDENTS IS THROUGH CITY COUNCIL WHO ARE ELECTED TO SERVE A SMALLER UNIT OF THE CITY FOR THAT PURPOSE. SO DID YOU IN YOUR [44:20] REVIEW COMPARE A MAC AND A JIC PROCESS IN TERMS OF WHO IS ON IT AND THEIR AUTHORITY TO BE [44:27] ESTABLISHED? >> CHAIR CHAVEZ, COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN, THE PRESENTATION THAT [44:34] YOU RECEIVED FROM DIRECTOR SAYER FROM EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, I DID [44:40] MEET WITH HER. SHE PROVIDED ME A SIMILAR WALK-THROUGH OF THE [44:45] SLIDES IN THE PRESENTATION. UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T HAVE THE [44:50] EXPERTISE IN THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN MAC AND JIC. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT MAC IS [44:57] WHEN THERE ARE MULTIPLE AGENCIES OUTSIDE JUST THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. BUT BOTH ARE [45:04] INTENDED TO PULL DECISION MAKERS TOGETHER. AND BOTH FROM WHAT [45:10] I'VE SEEN IN THIS REVIEW, LACK A MECHANISM FOR INFORMING AND [45:17] COMMUNICATING WITH THE COUNCIL. >> OKAY. THANKS FOR ECHOING WHAT I'M SEEING TO BE TRUE IN BOTH [45:24] PROCESSES AS WELL. I THINK THE CITY COUNCIL NEEDS TO BE INVOLVED IN DECISION-MAKING. AND [45:29] I THINK IT'S UNDEMOCRATIC FOR THE ADMINISTRATION TO BE LEAVING [45:35] US IN THE DARK. AND SO I HOPE THAT THAT'S CHANGED GOING FORWARD WITH BOTH THE MAC AND [45:42] THE JIC. I'LL MAKE THAT COMMENT TO DIRECTOR SAYER AS WELL. [45:47] ANOTHER QUESTION I HAD FOR YOU WAS SOMETHING I HEARD FROM RESIDENTS WHO WERE THERE THAT [45:52] DAY WAS WHETHER MPD OFFICERS WERE COVERING THEIR BADGES. [46:00] ( ALARM BLARING ) [46:15] >> YOU MAY PROCEED, COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN. [46:21] >> YEAH. THAT'S THE QUESTION I HAD IF ANY MPD OFFICERS HAD COVERED THEIR BADGES THAT DAY. [46:27] >> I DIDN'T SEE ANY EVIDENCE OF THAT. I KNOW THAT RYAN LOOKED AT [46:33] THE BODY WORN CAMERA AND WOULD HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING. >> SURE. CHAIR CHAVEZ, COUNCIL [46:41] MEMBER CASHMAN, I DID REVIEW A LOT OF BOTH STILL IMAGES AND BODY WORN CAMERA VIDEO FROM THAT [46:48] DAY. OVER THE COURSE OF THAT REVIEW, I DIDN'T SEE ANY INSTANCES OF MINNEAPOLIS POLICE [46:54] OFFICERS COVERING BADGES OR I DIDN'T SEE THAT IN ANY IMAGES. I [47:00] THINK THAT IT'S OF COURSE A VALID CONCERN. IT'S BEEN AN ISSUE IN THE PAST. I ALSO HEARD [47:06] A NUMBER OF TIMES WHERE SOMEONE WAS ASKING AN OFFICER FOR THEIR BADGE NUMBER AND THEY DID PROVIDE IT TO PEOPLE. SO IT'S [47:15] SOMETHING THAT WE DIDN'T SEE OVER THE COURSE OF THE REVIEW BUT IT IS DIFFICULT TO VERIFY [47:22] WITHOUT ANY AMOUNT OF DOUBT. BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT GOING ON THAT DAY. I DO THINK THAT THERE [47:29] COULD BE QUITE A BIT OF CONFUSION. I THINK ONE OF THE [47:34] MORE CONCERNING ELEMENTS OF THE ACTION IN GENERAL WERE THE [47:41] VARIATIONS OF UNIFORMS, FACE COVERINGS, NON-FACE COVERINGS, BADGES, PATCHES, THOSE KINDS OF [47:47] THINGS. I THINK THAT CAN LEAD TO A LOT OF CONFUSION ABOUT WHO MIGHT BE WHO. BUT AGAIN, IT WAS NOT SOMETHING WE SAW DIRECTLY. [47:54] >> OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHAIR. >> I BELIEVE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN WAS ON QUEUE AND SOMEHOW [48:00] JUMPED OFF. >> YES. WELL THANK YOU, CHAIR CHAVEZ. YOU KNOW, AS AN [48:09] IMMIGRANT COUNCIL MEMBER WHO, YOU KNOW, EVERY DAY HEAR ABOUT [48:15] PEOPLE BEING SNATCHED FROM THE COURT APPOINTMENTS AND FROM THE [48:20] COMMUNITY. WHAT HAPPENED ON JUNE 3RD WAS VERY HARMFUL. IT WAS CONFUSING. AND I THINK WHAT [48:29] COUNCIL MEMBER JASON CHAVEZ MENTIONED WAS THAT THE COMMUNITY THAT LIVE HERE LIVE HERE EVERY [48:36] DAY, OBVIOUSLY. FEDERAL AGENCY SHOWS UP WITH MILITARY GEAR IN A [48:44] VERY DIVERSE NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOU KNOW, THROWING PEOPLE ON THE GROUND AND HAVING MACHINE GUNS AND SO ON. SO PEOPLE ARE [48:50] FEARFUL. BUT JUST COMING BACK TO THE AUDIT AND THE RESPONSE. AND [48:57] I'M GLAD IT'S VERY CLEAR, AND I REALLY WANT TO MENTION THAT I'M GLAD THE CITY DID NOT VIOLATE [49:04] THE SEPARATION ORDINANCE. OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT POLICE OFFICERS DID NOT VIOLATE ANY OF THE CITY [49:09] POLICIES THAT WE HAVE. AND I REALLY WANT TO, YOU KNOW, [49:17] MENTION THAT THE CHIEF CONTINUE TO TELL FOLKS THAT PUT OUT A [49:25] STATEMENT ABOUT HOW MPD WILL [49:31] CONTINUE TO FOLLOW THE ORDINANCE, AND HOW THEY WILL NOT WORK WITH ICE. I RECEIVED THAT [49:41] FROM HIM MANY TIMES. HE PUT OUT [49:46] A STATEMENT MANY TIMES. AND HE WAS OUT THERE CALMING FOLKS DOWN AND CONTINUING TO COMMUNICATE. [49:51] SO IT'S REALLY, YOU KNOW, I'M GLAD THAT THE CHIEF CAME OUT AND [49:56] SAY THAT, AND HIS OFFICERS AND [50:02] MPD DID NOT VIOLATE THOSE, YOU KNOW, ANY VIOLATION WHEN IT [50:08] COMES TO THEY DID NOT ASSIST ICE. IT'S GREAT TO HEAR THAT. [50:15] THAT ASSURES ME, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF CONCERN THAT I HAD. I JUST WANT TO MENTION THAT, YOU KNOW, [50:23] IT'S A GREAT THING FOR ME TO HEAR THAT MPD DID NOT VIOLATE. [50:29] CHIEF CONTINUE TO COMMUNICATE WITH US, COMMUNICATE WITH THE [50:37] CITY OF THE IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY THAT HE WILL NOT ASSIST ICE. AND THAT IS TRUE. I DO WANT TO SAY [50:49] THAT THE ORDINANCE IS REALLY NOT PROTECTING WHO NEEDS TO BE PROTECTED. EVEN THIS MORNING I [50:57] HAD AN INDIVIDUAL WHO WAS AT APPOINTMENT SAYING THAT, HEY, I HAVE AN IMMIGRATION APPOINTMENT, [51:03] SHOULD I GO? AND I WAS LIKE, I'M NOT A LAWYER. BUT MOST PEOPLE ARE NOT COMING BACK. AND THAT IS [51:09] THE FEAR OF THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY WERE FACING. SO IT'S [51:15] OBVIOUS THAT AS A COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO REPRESENT THE COMMUNITY, WHO SPEAK THE LANGUAGE, WHO THE COMMUNITY [51:20] TRUSTS, WE SHOULD BE ABLE GETTING COMMUNICATION. WE SHOULD BE ABLE, ESPECIALLY COUNCIL [51:26] MEMBER JASON CHAVEZ SHOULD HAVE GOT THE FIRST CALL WHEN THE MAYOR TEAM WERE GATHERING AND [51:31] PUTTING THAT INFORMATION TOGETHER AND JUST COMMUNICATING WITH THAT BECAUSE HE IS THE [51:37] VOICE. HE'S THE FIRST ONE THEY HEAR FROM. WE ARE THE FIRST ONES OUR RESIDENTS HEAR FROM. THAT [51:44] KIND OF CONDITION, THAT KIND OF SITUATION, IT'S VERY [51:51] DISAPPOINTING TO SEE ADMINISTRATION DID NOT -- FAILED. THAT LEADERSHIP DID NOT [51:58] LET US KNOW NEARLY FOUR HOURS LATER. I'LL TELL YOU THIS, WE [52:04] HAVE LEARNED THROUGH THE 2020 CIVIL UNREST, A LOT OF MISINFORMATION IS OUT THERE. WHO DO YOU TRUST? AND THAT IS WHEN [52:11] WE TRUST OUR LEADERS TO COMMUNICATE AS EFFECTIVELY WITH US TO LET US KNOW WHAT'S [52:17] HAPPENING. BUT I'M REALLY GLAD THIS REPORT CLEARLY STATES THE [52:22] CITY DID NOT VIOLATE ANY LAW, ANY OF OUR POLICIES. AND I'M [52:29] GLAD TO HEAR THAT AND PROPS TO THE CHIEF AND HIS TEAM. THANK YOU. >> NEXT. THANK YOU. NEXT UP WE [52:36] HAVE VICE CHAIR CHOWDHURY. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHAVEZ. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO [52:42] ACKNOWLEDGE THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY WHO ARE IN OUR CHAMBER TODAY, AND FOR THOSE THAT ARE [52:47] FOLLOWING ALONG ONLINE. OUR CHAMBERS ARE PACKED. THERE ARE [52:52] MANY INDIVIDUALS FROM OUR COMMUNITY IN THE OVERFLOW, WHICH SHOWCASES HOW IMPORTANT THE ISSUE OF PROTECTING OUR [53:00] IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY AND TAKING CARE OF OUR NEIGHBORS AND ENSURING THAT THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS IS RESILIENT. LIKE [53:06] HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR CARING. THANK YOU SO MUCH [53:12] FOR ALL OF THE OUTREACH THAT YOU HAVE DONE. TO MY COUNCIL OFFICE, [53:17] TO OTHERS ON JUNE 3RD, AND EVERY DAY BEFORE AND EVERY DAY AFTER, [53:22] IT REALLY DOES MATTER. OUR JOB IS TO REPRESENT OUR CONSTITUENTS, AND TAKE THE NEEDS OF OUR CONSTITUENTS, THE [53:29] CONCERNS OF OUR CONSTITUENTS, AND WORK TOWARDS MAKING SURE THAT IT'S REFLECTIVE IN THE [53:35] LEGISLATION THAT WE CREATE, THE BUDGETS THAT WE MAKE DETERMINATIONS FOR, AND THE [53:41] OVERSIGHT WORK THAT WE DO. AND THAT'S WHY WE FELT REALLY IMPORTANT TO REQUEST THAT THIS [53:47] AFTER ACTION REVIEW. WE BELIEVE THAT OUR COMMUNITY DESERVES TO SEE WHAT HAPPENED TRANSPARENTLY, [53:54] AND DESERVES ACCOUNTABILITY AND THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS CLEARLY THROUGH THIS AFTER ACTION REVIEW [54:00] HAS SOME MAJOR GAPS IN TERMS OF BEING RESILIENT WHEN IT COMES TO [54:06] INCREASINGLY HOSTILE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. WHAT HAPPENED ON [54:13] JUNE 3RD I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ DID A GREAT JOB OF SHARING HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO [54:19] NOT SANITIZE WHAT HAPPENED. AND SO IN THE SPIRIT OF THAT, I [54:24] THINK IT'S REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT TO CONTINUE TO SHARE [54:30] THAT ON A DENSELY IMMIGRANT CORRIDOR ON LAKE STREET, WE SAW [54:39] ARMORED VEHICLES, HEAVILY MILITARIZED FEDERAL AGENTS, ICE, [54:48] HSI. WE SAW INDIVIDUALS WITH LARGE WEAPONS. AND FOR US IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS, THAT IS [54:54] DEEPLY TRAUMATIZING BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH THAT EXPERIENCE BEFORE. AND DEEPLY [55:00] TRAUMATIZING FOR IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY. AND AS A COUNCIL [55:09] MEMBER, KIND OF JUST EXPERIENCING THAT DAY AND GETTING CALLS FROM MY CONS [55:16] CONST CONSTITUENTS, HEARING FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ, SEEING EVERYTHING TRANSPIRE ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND NOT HAVING ANY [55:22] COMMUNICATION FROM THE CITY ADMINISTRATION WAS DEEPLY DISAPPOINTING AND CONCERNING. [55:28] BUT UNFORTUNATELY, REALLY UNFORTUNATELY, NOT SURPRISING TO ME. AND THAT'S A LARGER [55:35] CONVERSATION OUTSIDE OF THIS AFTER ACTION REVIEW. BUT MY EXPERIENCE ROUTINELY HAS BEEN [55:43] THAT AS A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER I AM NOT BROUGHT IN ON INFORMATION THAT IS REALLY CRITICAL FOR ME [55:48] TO KNOW AND COMMUNICATE OUT TO MY RESIDENTS, AND ALSO HAVE A PLACE WHERE I CAN COMMUNICATE [55:54] IMPORTANT INFORMATION BACK INTO THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. FOUR [56:00] HOURS IS FAR TOO LONG. VOID OF INFORMATION, THAT'S ABSOLUTE -- [56:08] THAT HITS THE NAIL ON THE HEAD FOR WHAT IT FELT LIKE IN THE [56:14] MOMENT. ONE THING WITH THIS AFTER ACTION REVIEW THAT I WANT TO UPLIFT, IT WASN'T JUST FOUR [56:20] HOURS LATER, IT WAS AFTER THE FEDERAL RAID HAD CONCLUDED THAT [56:25] COUNCIL MEMBERS GOT ANY INFORMATION. HOWEVER, OFFICIAL [56:34] CHANNELS PRIORITIZE DIFFERENT COMMUNICATIONS OUTWARDLY TO KIND OF SAY THAT THIS ISN'T AN [56:40] IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT, THIS IS A FEDERAL RAID BUT NO COMMUNICATION INTERNALLY TO THE [56:46] CITY COUNCIL. AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I'M HOPING TO ASK TO CITY AUDITOR TIMMERMAN IS [57:00] WHAT TIME DID THE MAYOR'S OFFICE PULL TOGETHER THE SITUATION [57:06] ROOM, AND THEN WHEN WAS THE MULTI-AGENCY COORDINATION TEAM PULLED TOGETHER, AND WHAT IS THE [57:14] MULTI-AGENCY COORDINATION TEAM FOR OR WHAT WAS IT USED FOR IN THAT CASE? [57:19] >> SURE, I'M HAVING RYAN GRAB ME A TIMELINE HERE. >> OKAY. GREAT. [57:26] >> ALL RIGHT. CHAIR CHAVEZ, COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY, AS FAR [57:32] AS TIMING, AND LIKE I SAID, I UNFORTUNATELY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION ON THE [57:38] DISTINCTION BETWEEN MAC AND JIC AND WHO GOES TO WHAT. MY [57:43] UNDERSTANDING IN THIS SITUATION IS THAT THIS WAS NOT A FULL MAC. [57:50] IT WAS PULLING LEADERS, CITY LEADERS TOGETHER TO COME UP WITH A COMMUNICATION PLAN BASED ON [57:57] PROCESS THAT THEY'RE FAMILIAR WITH. SO THE MAYOR WAS INFORMED [58:04] AT 10:45. AT 11:00, THE SENIOR [58:10] TEAM WHICH -- RYAN, DO YOU HAVE INSIGHT ON WHO WAS INVOLVED ON THAT 11:00 CONVERSATION? [58:16] >> I DON'T HAVE IT HERE. >> OKAY. WE DO HAVE THE INFORMATION. SO IF IT'S [58:21] SOMETHING WE CAN FOLLOW UP ON WHO WAS WHERE WHEN, WE'D BE HAPPY TO DO THAT. KEEP IN MIND, [58:28] SOME INFORMATION IN THIS REPORT AND IN OUR REVIEW WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF CONTINUING [58:35] CONFIDENTIALITY. DEPENDING ON WHAT THE QUESTIONS ARE, WE MAY RUN THROUGH TO MAKE SURE THAT'S [58:40] PERMISSIBLE TO RELEASE. WITH THAT SAID, WELL BEFORE I MOVE ON, WE WANT TO RELEASE EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN. OUR GOAL [58:47] IS TO BE AS TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE. SO AT 11:00, THE MAYOR [58:53] GOT TOGETHER WITH HIS SENIOR TEAM. THEY HAD A DISCUSSION. AND DURING THAT HOUR, THEY LEARNED [58:58] THAT THIS WAS NOT A FEDERAL IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT ACTION. [59:06] SO LATER, AFTER THE ESCALATION [59:11] OCCURRED, IT WAS AT 12:51, SO ALMOST TWO HOURS LATER THAT'S [59:17] WHEN THE REQUEST CAME TO STAND UP MAC. AGAIN, I LEARNED THAT [59:25] MAC MAYBE WASN'T THE STANDARD IN THIS CASE. BUT WITH WHAT WAS [59:31] HAPPENING WITH THE UNKNOWNS I THINK WHAT WE OBSERVED AT LEAST WAS THAT THERE WAS A STRUCTURE [59:38] OF HOW TO PULL PEOPLE TOGETHER AND COMMUNICATE, AND THAT'S WHAT [59:43] WAS DONE AT 12:51. AT BOTH OF [59:49] THOSE, IT SEEMS THAT A LARGE FOCUS WAS ON COMMUNICATION. AND [59:56] THAT'S WHY IN THE REPORT WE DO SAY THAT IT'S QUITE CURIOUS THAT COUNCIL WAS NOT INCLUDED IN [1:00:02] THAT. I WILL SHARE WITH YOU THAT IN MY READ-THROUGH WITH CITY [1:00:10] ADMINISTRATION, THEY RECOGNIZED, THEY SAID TO ME THAT THEY [1:00:15] RECOGNIZED THAT THERE'S A PLACE IN THAT TIMELINE WHERE IT WOULD [1:00:21] BE APPROPRIATE TO COMMUNICATE WITH COUNCIL. AND SO ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ON THOSE DETAILS MAY [1:00:27] BE BEST ANSWERED BY THEM. >> THANK YOU. AND JUST KIND OF FOLLOWING UP ON THAT. IN THE [1:00:34] REPORT IT SAYS THE MAC IS A GROUP CONSISTING OF SEVERAL CITY [1:00:40] DEPARTMENTS COLLABORATING ON HOW BEST TO MOVE FORWARD IN THE EVENT INTERNALLY AND TO THE [1:00:46] PUBLIC. IT LISTS SEVEN STAKEHOLDERS. AND JUST LIKE YOU SAID IN YOUR REPORT, IT SHARES [1:00:53] CURIOUSLY NO MEMBER OF CITY COUNCIL WAS INCLUDED IN THE INFORMATION CHANNELS. COULD YOU SHARE WHAT IS A RISK TO THE CITY [1:01:00] AND NOT INCLUDING THE CITY COUNCIL IN THESE COMMUNICATIONS [1:01:05] IN AN EMERGENCY OF THIS NATURE? >> ABSOLUTELY. CHAIR CHAVEZ, [1:01:11] COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION BECAUSE THAT'S AUDIT'S ROLE IS TO CONSIDER [1:01:19] RISK, TO COMMUNICATE RISK TO YOU, TO OTHERS WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION. IN THIS CASE, IT [1:01:26] WAS A RISK THAT CAME TO FRUITION AND THAT IS THAT VOID OF INFORMATION THAT WE TALKED [1:01:31] ABOUT. WITH THE VOID OF INFORMATION, THERE'S GOING TO BE [1:01:37] SPECULATIVE COMMUNICATION, SPECULATIVE BEHAVIOR. AND AS WE [1:01:42] NOTED, WE HOLD PLACE FOR VIEWPOINTS IN MANY DIFFERENT [1:01:50] ANGLES BECAUSE PEOPLE WITH ICE BADGES WERE SEEN. PEOPLE WITH [1:01:56] DHS PATCHES WERE SEEN. SO THE VOID OF INFORMATION IN THIS CASE [1:02:03] CREATED A RISK WHERE MISINFORMATION OR DISINFORMATION IS SPREAD. AND I WANT TO BE VERY [1:02:08] CAREFUL, BECAUSE AS I SAID, THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN HERE. THERE WAS NOT MISINFORMATION. WHAT WAS [1:02:16] SHARED WAS THAT ICE IS ON LAKE AND BLOOMINGTON, AND THAT IS A [1:02:21] FACTUAL STATEMENT. AND AGAIN, IN THE OBJECTIVITY OF OUR OFFICE, WE SHARE WHAT THAT FACTUAL [1:02:27] STATEMENT IS. NOT WHAT EMOTIONS ARE BEHIND THAT. SO IN THE [1:02:38] FUTURE, I COULD SEE SITUATIONS BECOMING MUCH MORE UNTENABLE, [1:02:46] BECOMING MUCH MORE DANGEROUS THAN WHAT OCCURRED ON JUNE 3RD. [1:02:51] AND QUITE FRANKLY, FROM MY [1:02:57] PERSPECTIVE, IT WAS AN UNFORTUNATE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO BETTER PREPARE FOR [1:03:02] ACTIONS LIKE WE'VE SEEN IN OTHER CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY. >> THANK YOU. I REALLY [1:03:09] APPRECIATE IT. I'M JUST GOING TO CLOSE MY PART OF THIS COMMENTS FOR NOW. I'LL COME BACK INTO QUEUE LATER. THAT THE SITUATION [1:03:20] DID NOT HAPPEN IN A VACUUM. ON MAY 31ST, TOP ICE OFFICIAL SENT [1:03:27] OUT INSTRUCTIONS TO OFFICERS ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO INCREASE APPREHENSIONS, TO GET CREATIVE, [1:03:34] TO TURN THE KNOB TO 11, AND INSTRUCTED OFFICIALS TO GO AFTER [1:03:39] PEOPLE THEY MAY COINCIDENTALLY ENCOUNTER, WHICH IS TERMED AS COLLATERALS. FOLLOWING THE DAY [1:03:49] AFTER JUNE 3RD, JUNE 4TH, IT WAS REPORTED THAT A RECORD WAS SET BY ICE FOR THE HIGHEST AMOUNTS [1:03:56] OF ARRESTS IN A SINGLE DAY IN THE STATE -- IN THE UNITED [1:04:02] STATES. THAT IS ABSOLUTELY STRIKING. AND THAT IS SOMETHING [1:04:11] THAT I HOPE WE CONTINUE TO BRING [1:04:17] FORWARD AND UPLIFT BECAUSE THIS ADMINISTRATION AND THE WAY THAT ICE OPERATES IS NOT GOING TO [1:04:22] OPERATE IN A GOOD FAITH FASHION WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO TELL THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS, HEY, WE'RE DOING AN IMMIGRATION RAID TODAY. [1:04:29] IF HSI, IF ICE, IF ANY FEDERAL AGENCIES ARE ON THE GROUND WITH [1:04:37] CLEAR INSTRUCTIONS TO DO COLLATERAL ARRESTS, THE RISK IS THERE, AND THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS QUITE FRANKLY IS NOT [1:04:42] PREPARED FOR IT. AND [1:04:49] UNFORTUNATELY, THIS VOID OF COMMUNICATION, I WOULD NAME AS A RISK, CREATED A RISK FOR OUR [1:04:56] CONSTITUENTS BECAUSE WE WERE NOT ABLE TO ADEQUATELY SHARE OUT WHAT WAS HAPPENING. AND I'M [1:05:01] GRATEFUL TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WERE OUT THERE. I'M GRATEFUL TO THE NEIGHBORS WHO DOCUMENTED AND SHARED [1:05:06] INFORMATION. AND I'LL JUST SAY, [1:05:12] LIKE, THE ROLE OF A COUNCIL MEMBER IN MOMENTS OF EMERGENCY IS TO BE A LIAISON TO THE [1:05:18] COMMUNITY. WE ARE CHARGED WITH REPRESENTING ABOUT 34,000 TO 40,000 PEOPLE. IT IS OUR JOB IN [1:05:26] AN EMERGENCY TO COMMUNITY WITH OUR CONSTITUENTS AND COMMUNICATE WHAT OUR CONSTITUENTS ARE SEEING [1:05:32] BACK TO THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS SO WE ARE RESILIENT IN THESE MOMENTS. >> THANK YOU. NEXT UP WE HAVE [1:05:38] COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHAVEZ. THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION. I THINK WE ARE ALL CONCERNED ON [1:05:46] THIS COUNCIL, AND IN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, ABOUT HOW WE MOVE FORWARD. THAT'S WHY I WAS HAPPY [1:05:53] TO VOTE FOR US TO HAVE THIS AFTER ACTION REPORT. BUT I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS AND SOME [1:05:59] COMMENTS. THE FIRST THING IS I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT I DON'T THINK ANYONE SAID ICE [1:06:04] WASN'T PRESENT. I THINK AFTER BEING NOTIFIED THAT ICE WAS THERE, WE ALL THOUGHT THAT. BUT [1:06:11] I ALSO THINK GETTING VERIFIED INFORMATION TAKES TIME. IT'S IN THE -- NOT A QUICK THING. I HAD [1:06:20] SOMEONE REACH OUT TO ME FROM MY WARD WHO WAS CONCERNED. AND I SAID LET ME CALL YOU BACK LATER. I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. [1:06:26] IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME. WHEN I WENT ON SOCIAL MEDIA TO SEE WHAT WAS HAPPENING, I DID [1:06:31] SEE COUNCIL MEMBERS THERE, AND I THOUGHT, OKAY, WE HAD A COMMITTEE THAT DAY SO I THOUGHT [1:06:36] OKAY I'LL LEARN ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING FROM OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS. IT TOOK A WHILE TO LEARN WHAT WAS GOING ON. AND IT [1:06:44] WAS COMMUNICATION WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS HOW I LEARNED THE [1:06:52] SPECIFICS OF THINGS. SO IT REALLY DOES TAKE TIME SOMETIMES TO GET VERIFIED INFORMATION. AND [1:06:59] YOU KNOW, A WAY OF COMMUNICATING OUT TO PEOPLE. SO I'M A LITTLE [1:07:05] CONFUSED ABOUT THE COMMENTS AROUND NOT GETTING INFORMATION, BUT BEING ON THE SCENE AND LIKE [1:07:11] IN REAL TIME AND HAVING IT THERE. SO IF YOU'RE THERE, YOU CAN COMMUNICATE WITH YOUR [1:07:18] COLLEAGUES ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING VERSUS THE MAYOR WHO WAS IN A MEETING OR WHOMEVER WAS WITH THE MAYOR IN A MEETING [1:07:25] LEARNING FROM OTHER AGENCIES ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON. I REALLY WOULD HOPE THAT THAT WOULD GET BETTER TOO. THAT COUNCIL [1:07:30] MEMBERS, IF THEY'RE AT THE SCENE OF SOMETHING, WOULD COMMUNICATE BETTER WITH OTHER COUNCIL [1:07:36] MEMBERS ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON. THAT'S A PIECE I FEEL LIKE IS MISSING TOO. THERE ARE PEOPLE [1:07:41] SAYING THEY WERE ON THE SCENE, THEY WERE THERE IN REAL TIME AS TO WHAT WAS HAPPENING. AS A [1:07:47] COUNCIL COLLEAGUE, I DIDN'T HEAR FROM THEM WHAT WAS GOING ON REAL TIME ON THE SCENE. ONE OF MY [1:07:53] QUESTIONS IS ABOUT THE SEPARATION ORDINANCE. THANK YOU AUDITOR TIMMERMAN. EVEN THE WORK [1:08:00] WE'RE GOING TO DO TO STRENGTHEN THAT, THAT WON'T STOP AGENCIES FROM COMING IN TO MINNEAPOLIS [1:08:07] AND DOING WHATEVER, CORRECT? >> CORRECT. >> SO LIKE, I AGREE THAT IT'S [1:08:12] THE WORK OF US TO MAKE SURE THIS IS STRONG. BUT IT'S STILL NOT GOING TO STOP THIS TYPE OF BEHAVIOR FROM HAPPENING. [1:08:21] >> CHAIR CHAVEZ, COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW, YOU ARE CORRECT. THE CITY [1:08:28] KIND OF ONLY SET EXPECTATIONS FOR ITS OWN OPERATIONS, ITS OWN STAFF. IN MY MIND, LOOKING AT [1:08:38] THE OUTDATED SEPARATION ORDINANCE, IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY [1:08:43] FOR THE COUNCIL TO DOCUMENT WHAT THEIR EXPECTATIONS ARE. AND [1:08:50] THOSE EXPECTATIONS WHETHER IT'S THROUGH THE SEPARATION ORDINANCE OR SOME OTHER MECHANISM, AS I [1:08:57] EXPLAINED, THERE'S SOME IDIOSYNCRASIES THERE. BUT WHATEVER THOSE EXPECTATIONS ARE, [1:09:04] I THINK WE NEED TO BE IN A POINT WHERE THE COUNCIL AND THE [1:09:10] ADMINISTRATION ARE ON THE SAME PAGE AND KNOW WHAT MPD'S RESPONSE IS GOING TO BE. [1:09:15] >> RIGHT. >> AND THEY CLEARLY ARTICULATE WHAT THEY SHOULD BE. [1:09:21] >> THANK YOU. SPEAKING OF MPD'S RESPONSE, AT THESE SCENES, IF [1:09:29] 911 IS CALLED, MPD HAS TO COME, RIGHT? >> I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. BUT -- >> I DEFINITELY NEED AN ANSWER [1:09:36] TO THAT QUESTION BECAUSE IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT -- I MEAN, [1:09:41] AT SCENES, THINGS UNFOLD. IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING. THERE COULD BE SOMETHING ELSE [1:09:47] HAPPENING. AND IF MPD IS CALLED, I WAS TOLD THEY HAVE TO COME TO THE SCENE. IF SOMEONE THERE CALLS 911, THEY'RE COMING ANY [1:09:54] WAY. SO THERE WILL BE MPD THERE POTENTIALLY. >> CHAIR CHAVEZ, COUNCIL MEMBER [1:10:00] VETAW, JUST TO EXPAND ON THAT A LITTLE BIT. >> OKAY. >> I THINK THE BEST WAY TO FRAME [1:10:07] IT IS THAT MPD DID RESPOND TO THIS 911 CALL. RIGHT. SO THEY [1:10:13] ARE ABLE TO RESPOND IN ANY OF THESE SITUATIONS. SO AS A [1:10:20] SEPARATION ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN, THEY CAN AND CUSTOMARILY DO RESPOND TO REQUESTS FROM FEDERAL [1:10:26] AGENCIES OR, YOU KNOW, OTHER DEPARTMENTS EVEN WITHIN THE [1:10:32] CITY. LIKE HENNEPIN COUNTY OR AN EMS DEPARTMENT. >> I'M TALKING ABOUT CITIZENS. IF SOMEONE IS ON THE SCENE AND [1:10:37] THEY CALL 911, MPD SHOULD COME TO THAT CALL. >> YEAH. MPD SHOULD RESPOND TO [1:10:46] 911 CALLS, YES. >> IF YOU HAVE A SCENE, IT COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE MPD ON IT [1:10:52] BECAUSE SOMEONE CALLED 911 AND SAID THERE IS AN EMERGENCY. OR SOMEBODY DRIVING BY. IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME. SOMEBODY DRIVES [1:10:59] BY, SEES A CROWD. THEY THINK THEY SAW WHAT THEY SAW, THEY CALL, AND THE POLICE SHOW UP. >> SURE, YEAH, OF COURSE. THERE [1:11:07] ARE POLICE RESPONSES THAT ARE PROACTIVE BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND THERE ARE THOSE THAT ARE REACTIVE TO 911 CALLS, [1:11:14] ABSOLUTELY. THAT COULD DEFINITELY HAPPEN. >> OKAY. AND THEN THE SEPARATION [1:11:20] AGREEMENT AND THE MPD POLICY ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. AND I WAS TOLD AFTER THIS THAT THE MPD [1:11:27] POLICY IS ACTUALLY STRONGER THAN THE SEPARATION AGREEMENT. YOU KNOW, I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO SEE [1:11:32] A LOT MORE ABOUT THAT IN THIS REPORT. CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT, PLEASE? [1:11:38] >> SURE. CHAIR CHAVEZ, COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW, THANK YOU FOR THE [1:11:44] QUESTION. WE DO IN PAGES 14 -- [1:11:57] SORRY, 13 THROUGH 16, WE HIGHLIGHT THE TWO POLICIES THAT [1:12:03] WE BELIEVE TO BE MOST RELEVANT AND MOST PARALLEL TO THE SEPARATION ORDINANCE. AND THE [1:12:10] LATTER OF THE POLICIES ACTUALLY DISCUSSES ICE. AND IT CLEARLY [1:12:17] HAS BEEN UPDATED MORE RECENTLY THAN THE SEPARATION ORDINANCE WHICH HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED TO [1:12:24] INCLUDE ICE, DHS, HSI. >> SO IS THIS JUST ABOUT ICE OR [1:12:30] ALL FEDERAL AGENCIES? BECAUSE ICE IS ONLY ONE AGENCY, BUT THERE'S A LOT MORE AGENCIES THAT COULD COME INTO MINNEAPOLIS AND [1:12:36] DO SAME OR SIMILAR THINGS. >> CHAIR CHAVEZ, COUNCIL MEMBER [1:12:41] VETAW, THAT IS A REALLY, REALLY [1:12:47] GOOD QUESTION BECAUSE YOU'LL SEE ON FOOTNOTE 11 ON PAGE 17, THE [1:12:57] PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES HAS EFFECTIVELY DEPUTIZED THE AGENCY HEADS OF OTHER EXECUTIVE [1:13:05] BRANCHES OR OF OTHER EXECUTIVE AGENCIES AND ASKED THAT THEY ACT [1:13:10] IN THE CAPACITY THAT NORMALLY YOU WOULD ONLY SEE FROM DHS. THE [1:13:19] IDIOSYNCRASY HERE TOO IS OUTLINED IN A FOOTNOTE ON I [1:13:25] BELIEVE IT'S THE THIRD PAGE. [1:13:31] NOPE. PAGE 6. THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN DHS, ICE, HSI, ERO, IT'S [1:13:45] AN IMPORTANT DISTINCTION. BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IT IS A DISTINCTION THAT MORE AND MORE [1:13:53] IS ONLY ON PAPER BECAUSE OF THIS DEPUTIZATION OF OTHERS WITHIN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. >> THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO [1:13:59] CLOSE WITH THIS. THIS TERRIBLE MOMENT IN OUR CITY HAS CLEARLY CAUSED SOME DIVISION THAT WE [1:14:05] DON'T NEED RIGHT NOW. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE ADMINISTRATION, FOR THE COUNCIL, [1:14:11] FOR THE COMMUNITY TO COME TOGETHER AND FIGURE OUT A PLAN ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO FIGHT THE [1:14:16] FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. THE PLAN SHOULD NOT BE THIS. THE PLAN SHOULD BE US WORKING TOGETHER. I [1:14:24] HEARD FROM SO MANY COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT WERE SCARED BECAUSE [1:14:31] OF COMMUNICATION COMING FROM WHAT I FEEL LIKE IS THE RIGHT SIDE OF THINGS NOT JUST, YOU [1:14:37] KNOW, WHAT IT COULD HAVE BEEN OR WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE. BUT TERRIBLE COMMUNICATION. THAT'S [1:14:42] WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SURE WE PUT OUT THE RIGHT INFORMATION SO [1:14:49] PEOPLE ARE INFORMED, SO PEOPLE KNOW HOW TO ACT AND REACT AND WHAT TO DO. WHAT THIS HAS DONE [1:14:57] IN MY WARD IN PARTICULAR IS MAKE PEOPLE HIDE. I AM AFRAID FOR [1:15:02] PEOPLE WHO ARE NOW SCARED TO LEAVE THEIR HOUSES TO GO GET RESOURCES AND CERTAIN THINGS [1:15:08] THAT THEY NEED. IT WASN'T BEFORE THIS INCIDENT. THIS INCIDENT MADE PEOPLE EVEN MORE SCARED. I [1:15:15] HEARD FROM BUSINESSES WHO SAID OUR BUSINESSES HAVE LOST SO MUCH BUSINESS BECAUSE OF THE [1:15:20] MISINFORMATION THAT WENT OUT ABOUT THIS INCIDENT OR WHAT PEOPLE THOUGHT WAS HAPPENING. THIS IS A MOMENT IN WHICH WE CAN [1:15:27] COME TOGETHER AS A CITY, WORK TOGETHER, MAKE IT BETTER, ENSURE [1:15:34] THAT IMMIGRANTS IN MINNEAPOLIS FEEL SAFE NO MATTER WHAT. IT'S OUR DUTY AS ELECTED OFFICIALS TO [1:15:41] GIVE OUT THE RIGHT INFORMATION. TO TAKE THE TIME IT NEEDS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE UNDERSTANDING WHAT'S HAPPENING AND SO WE [1:15:47] COMMUNICATE THAT BETTER. I'M GLAD THAT WE HAVE THIS REPORT BECAUSE IT SHOWS US WHERE [1:15:53] MISSTEPS WERE. WE'RE ALL RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS. NO ONE IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING SURE [1:15:59] THAT PEOPLE GET THE RIGHT INFORMATION THAT THEY FEEL. THIS IS A HUGE PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE [1:16:04] FOR OUR IMMIGRANT POPULATION, AND IT'S OUR JOB TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MAKE IT BETTER. THIS IS [1:16:09] NOT OKAY. IT'S NOT OKAY TO SCARE PEOPLE WHEN THERE'S BAD PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY. THIS ENDED UP [1:16:16] BEING A 900-POUND DRUG RAID OR WHATEVER IT WAS. THAT'S NOT OKAY. WE DON'T WANT THAT IN OUR [1:16:21] COMMUNITY EITHER. AND SO WE GOTTA WORK TOGETHER HERE. WE GOTTA MAKE SURE WE'RE PUTTING [1:16:27] OUT THE RIGHT INFORMATION. WE UNDERSTAND -- AND THEY'RE NEVER GOING TO TELL US IN ADVANCE, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER HERE [1:16:34] IN THE MORNING AND DO XY AND Z, IT JUST DOESN'T HAPPEN THAT WAY. [1:16:39] SO WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER. COUNCIL, MAYOR, CLERKS, AUDITORS, [1:16:45] WHOMEVER. WE ALL NEED TO WORK TOGETHER TO ENSURE THAT PEOPLE ARE FEELING SAFE AND MORE THAN [1:16:51] ANYTHING, THEY HAVE THE RIGHT INFORMATION. MISINFORMATION IS [1:16:56] CAUSING SO MUCH STRESS AND ANXIETY IN THE COMMUNITY AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL THAT WE DON'T NEED IT HERE. WE NEED TO BE EMBRACING [1:17:05] PEOPLE AND MAKING THEM FEEL SAFER, NOT SCARING THEM MORE THAN THEY ALREADY ARE. THANK [1:17:10] YOU. >> THANK YOU. NEXT UP WE HAVE [1:17:15] COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHAVEZ. I JUST WANT TO REGROUND THE [1:17:21] CONVERSATION BACK TO WHAT'S AT PRESENT. AND THAT IS TO ABSOLUTELY UPLIFT THAT JUNE 3RD [1:17:27] WAS DEEPLY TRAUMATIZING FOR RESIDENTS. AND FOR MANY, THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS ALREADY [1:17:32] ANTICIPATED. AND I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS SAW THESE [1:17:39] KINDS OF SITUATIONS COMING LONG IN ADVANCE, AND ACTUALLY TRIED TO WORK AS COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ [1:17:47] HIGHLIGHTED, TRIED TO WORK PROACTIVELY WITH THE MAYOR FREY ADMINISTRATION ONCE TRUMP TOOK OFFICE IN JANUARY. AND I KNOW MY [1:17:55] OFFICE RECEIVED SEVERAL QUESTIONS FROM CONSTITUENTS ABOUT HOW THE CITY WOULD BE [1:18:00] RESPONDING FROM ATTACKS TO OUR IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES. MANY HIGHLIGHTED A PARTICULAR CONCERN [1:18:06] IN WHICH THE ROLE MPD WOULD PLAY IN THEIR ROLE IN ENFORCING [1:18:12] SEPARATION ORDINANCE, OR UNINTENTIONALLY BE COMPLICIT IN CARRYING OUT IMMIGRATION [1:18:17] ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITIES. I ACTUALLY WANT TO READ A SECTION OF AN EMAIL THAT I RECEIVED FROM [1:18:24] A RESIDENT THAT STATED I AM CONCERNED THAT OUR JUDICIAL SYSTEM IS NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO STOP THE ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES OF THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, AND [1:18:30] I'M WONDERING HOW LAW ENFORCEMENT IS GOING TO RESPOND WHEN CITIZENS TAKE UP THIS [1:18:37] ENDEAVOR. I'M ALSO CONCERNED THAT DONALD TRUMP MAY ENLIST THE MANY ARMED SUPPORTERS THAT HE [1:18:42] HAS. AND WHEN HE CONFRONTS THE NON-VIOLENT SIT CITIZENS, I'M [1:18:51] CONCERNED. I HOPE NONE COMES TO PASS. BUT I WANT TO BE SURE I CAN BE AS PREPARED AS I CAN BE. [1:18:59] FOLLOWING RECEIVING THAT EMAIL, COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ AND I REACHED OUT TO -- ENFORCED. [1:19:09] SPECIFICALLY WHAT DISCIPLINARY CONSEQUENCES WOULD THERE BE FOR OFFICERS WHO VIOLATED TERMS OF THE SEPARATION ORDINANCE. AND [1:19:14] WHERE DOES THAT CURRENTLY FIT WITHIN OUR CURRENT DISCIPLINE MATRIX. WE ALSO WANTED TO KNOW [1:19:21] HOW THERE WAS COMMUNICATION BEING CURATED AROUND THOSE CONSEQUENCES FOR OFFICERS SO [1:19:27] THAT THEY WERE MADE SURE TO BE AWARE OF THESE EXPECTATIONS. THIS IS THE RESPONSE THAT I [1:19:33] RECEIVED FROM THE CHIEF. HARD TO RESPOND TO HYPOTHETICAL, BUT I CAN SAY THAT I WILL ENSURE THAT [1:19:40] THE MPD REMAINS COMMITTED TO UPHOLDING THE RULE OF LAW, AND THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS OF ALL [1:19:46] PEOPLE. IN JANUARY OF 2021, WE SAW POLICE OFFICERS IN [1:19:51] WASHINGTON, D.C. HONORABLY RESIST A MOB, A VIOLENT MOB. [1:19:57] INCLUDING SOME WHO WOULD DIE AS A RESULT. -- THE CHIEF'S [1:20:04] RESPONSE TO OUR CONSTITUENTS LEGITIMATE CONCERN AS TO HOW OUR [1:20:10] LAW ENFORCEMENT AND CITY LEADERSHIP EFFECTIVELY PLANNING IS NOT A MATTER OF IF BUT WHEN [1:20:16] THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION WOULD LAUNCH AN ATTACK ON OUR IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES, THE CHIEF'S RESPONSE MADE IT VERY [1:20:21] CLEAR TO ME THAT THE CITY WAS NOT CURRENTLY PREPARED FOR THESE TYPE OF ATTACKS. AND THAT WE'RE [1:20:27] SEEING HAPPENING ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY, AND THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE CONCRETE PROTOCOLS OR POLICIES IN PLACE TO ENSURE THAT [1:20:33] OUR RESIDENTS REGARDLESS OF THEIR IMMIGRATION STATUS RECEIVE THE FULLEST PROTECTION THAT THEY [1:20:39] DESERVE. AND AFTER LEARNING THIS, COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ AND I ACTUALLY AUTHORED A [1:20:49] LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE TO LEARN HOW MPD WAS -- THAT PRESENTATION [1:20:55] AFFIRMED THERE WERE NO STANDARD PROTOCOLS IN PLACE FOR CONSEQUENCES FOR OFFICERS WHO [1:21:00] VIOLENT THE ORDINANCE OR COLLABORATE WITH ICE. MPD [1:21:05] ACKNOWLEDGED IN THEIR OWN PRESENTATION THAT THERE WERE GAPS BOTH IN THE ORDINANCE [1:21:12] ITSELF AND OPERATIONAL LOGISTICS. WE CAN USE OUR POLICY MAKING AND BUDGETARY AUTHORITY [1:21:18] TO STRENGTHEN AND EXPAND PROTECTIONS FOR OUR MOST VULNERABLE RESIDENTS. AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THIS COUNCIL HAS [1:21:23] BEEN DOING. RIGHT NOW OUR COLLEAGUES ARE WORKING ON AMENDING OUR SEPARATION [1:21:28] ORDINANCE TO STRENGTHEN IT IN LIGHT OF THE EVENTS FOLLOWING AND WHAT TOOK PLACE ON JUNE 3RD. [1:21:35] ALSO BEFORE THAT, COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ AND SEVERAL OF MY OTHER COLLEAGUES, WE MOVED BUDGETARY [1:21:41] RESOURCES LAST DECEMBER TOWARDS THE OFFICE OF IMMIGRATION AND REFUGEE AFFAIRS IN ANTICIPATION AGAIN OF THESE GROWING ATTACKS [1:21:49] TO MAKE SURE THAT OFFICE HAD INCREASED RESOURCES TO OFFER [1:21:54] SUPPORT. SO I DO WANT TO NOTE COUNCIL HAS BEEN ACTING. WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR OUR OTHER [1:22:01] PARTNERS IN THE EXECUTIVE SIDE TO MEET US IN THE MIDDLE TO ADVANCE STRONGER PROTECTIONS FOR OUR RESIDENTS. AND I KNOW [1:22:07] RESIDENTS ARE LOOKING TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT TO LEAD OR STANDING UP AGAINST TRUMP, AND ACROSS THE [1:22:13] COUNTRY, WE'RE ACTUALLY SEEING ELECTED OFFICIALS DO THAT AND THEY'RE BEING DETAINED AND ARRESTED AND HAVING THEIR FIRST [1:22:19] AMENDMENT RIGHTS ALSO ATTACKED FOR DOING THE SAME THING. BUT [1:22:24] THAT IS WHAT IS EXPECTED FROM US. JUNE 3RD, AS I HEARD FROM MANY OF MY COLLEAGUES STATED, [1:22:31] JUNE 3RD WAS A TEST. IN MANY WAYS WE DID FAIL AS A CITY. I ABSOLUTELY AGREE, THIS IS AN [1:22:38] OPPORTUNITY TO REFLECT ON WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO SHOW UP BETTER FOR OUR RESIDENTS. I'M EXCITED [1:22:44] THAT MANY OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE TAKEN THAT TO TASK AND TAKEN IT SERIOUSLY BEFORE JUNE 3RD AND [1:22:52] REMAIN COMMITTED. I WILL NOTE THIS TOO, I AM ACTUALLY THANKFUL WE HAD STAFF AND COUNCIL MEMBERS [1:22:58] ON THE GROUND ON THE DAY OF. WE'VE SEEN A CONTINUAL REPEAT IN [1:23:03] PATTERN WITH THE CITY'S ADMINISTRATION WHEN IT COMES TO [1:23:11] ENCAMPMENT REMOVALS. SHOOTINGS OF RESIDENTS WHERE COUNCIL ARE THE LAST BODY MADE AWARE OF WHAT [1:23:18] IS HAPPENING. OFTENTIMES THANK YOU TO THE STAR TRIBUNE, THAT IS OUR SOURCE LEARNING WITH THE [1:23:24] REST OF THE PUBLIC. MOST OF THE TIMES IT HAS BEEN COUNCIL MEMBERS GOING TO THE SCENE OF [1:23:31] EVENTS TO GET ACCURATE INFORMATION. THAT IS ACTUALLY WHERE I GOT MY INFORMATION. THANK YOU, MR. TIMMERMAN, YOU [1:23:40] FEATURED MY NEWSLETTER IN THIS REPORT. I ACTUALLY DID RECEIVE [1:23:46] IN REAL-TIME UPDATES FROM COLLEAGUES ABOUT WHAT WAS ACTUALLY UNFOLDING. BUT WHAT HAPPENED IN RESPONSE TO THAT AND [1:23:52] US PUTTING THAT INFORMATION OUT AND WHAT WAS EVEN JUST REPEATED NOW ON THIS BODY IS THAT WE WERE [1:23:58] DISCREDITED. WE WERE CALLED AND TOLD WE WERE SHARING MISINFORMATION. I'M ACTUALLY LOOKING AT CHIEF O'HARA'S [1:24:05] STATEMENT ON JUNE 4TH WHERE THERE'S A SENTENCE THAT SAID THERE WAS IRRESPONSIBLE [1:24:11] INFORMATION SHARED ON SOCIAL MEDIA BY SOME OFFICIALS. STATEMENTS MADE WITHOUT GATHERING BASIC FACTS. THIS [1:24:16] REPORT SAYS THAT IS NOT TRUE. COUNCIL MEMBERS SHARED ACCURATE [1:24:22] INFORMATION. WE SAW ICE PRESENT. [1:24:28] ICE SAID WE WERE PRESENT LITERALLY. WE WERE ATTACKED WITH [1:24:34] SHARING ACCURATE INFORMATION WITH RESIDENTS WHO WERE CONCERNED AND ANXIOUS ABOUT [1:24:40] HAVING MILITARY-GRADE VEHICLES IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS AT 9:00 IN THE MORNING AND KNOWING THIS WAS COMING UNDER THE ORDERS OF [1:24:46] THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. AND THEN SEEING MPD OFFICERS BEING PERCEIVED TO ESCORT THESE [1:24:52] FEDERAL AGENTS INTO THEIR COMMUNITY TO JUSTIFIABLY EXPECT HARM TO BE COMMITTED. SO I JUST [1:24:59] ALSO WANT TO PUT TO BED WE DID SHARE ACCURATE INFORMATION. I'M [1:25:05] GLAD REPEATEDLY IT'S PUT IN THIS REPORT THAT MISINFORMATION WAS NOT ESPOUSED BY THIS BODY. WE [1:25:12] WERE AT THE SCENE AS USUAL TO BE IN COMMUNITY WITH OUR RESIDENTS WHO DO LOOK TO US FOR LEADERSHIP [1:25:19] AND SHOW SOME LEVEL OF A SPINE TOWARDS FIGHTING AGAINST THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. AND I AM [1:25:24] THANKFUL FOR MY COLLEAGUES FOR REPEATEDLY DOING THAT REGARDLESS IF IT'S FOR OUR IMMIGRANT [1:25:31] COMMUNITIES, FOR OUR BLACK COMMUNITIES WHO ARE CONSTANTLY BEING ATTACKED, OR OUR UNHOUSED [1:25:39] COMMUNITIES. I AM SO GRATEFUL FOR THAT TYPE OF LEADERSHIP AND THAT'S THE LEADERSHIP THAT'S GOING TO BE NEEDED IN THE [1:25:44] CURRENT TIMES THAT WE'RE IN. SO THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. AND NEXT UP WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO. [1:25:52] >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. AND [1:25:58] THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. YOU KNOW, I HAVE SEVERAL ACTION -- I HAVE SEVERAL [1:26:03] COMMENTS ABOUT THE ACTIONS OF JUNE 3RD AND THE FOLLOW UP. BUT I FIRST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE [1:26:10] REAL FEAR THAT'S EXPERIENCED BY OUR RESIDENTS THAT HAS GONE FAR PAST JUNE 3RD HERE, ESPECIALLY [1:26:16] OUR UNDOCUMENTED NEIGHBORS. AND AS I READ THIS, AND I JUST GOT [1:26:21] THIS A COUPLE OF HOURS AGO. I'M STILL DIGESTING IT. I CAN UNDERSTAND THE CHAOS AT THE SCENE. THAT WAS EXACERBATED BY A [1:26:30] LACK OF INFORMATION. BUT FIRST, DIFFERENT THAN WHAT PREVIOUS [1:26:35] COLLEAGUES SAID, IT DOES SAY IN THIS REPORT THAT A COUNCIL MEMBER IS LITERALLY IN THE TIMELINE AS RECEIVING [1:26:41] INFORMATION DIRECTLY FROM MPD AT 11:39 A.M., THAT WASN'T FOUR HOURS AFTER THIS OCCURRED. THAT [1:26:47] WAS PRETTY QUICKLY. AND SEVEN MINUTES LATER IN THIS TIMELINE, IT SAYS HE TWEETED SAYING, THEY [1:26:57] LIED. COMMUNICATING IN AN EMERGENCY IS REALLY IMPORTANT. WE SITTING UP HERE ON THE DAIS [1:27:03] HOLD THAT PUBLIC TRUST. ONE OF THE FINDINGS IS THAT CITY ADMINISTRATION DIDN'T LIE OR [1:27:09] VIOLATE THE SEPARATION ORDINANCE. AND I THINK THERE'S INTEREST FROM ALL OF US IN STRENGTHENING THAT AS MUCH AS WE [1:27:14] CAN, AS MUCH AS WE HAVE AUTHORITY TO DO FROM A CITY PERSPECTIVE. ANOTHER FINDING IS [1:27:21] ACKNOWLEDGING IT TOOK FOUR HOURS TO ISSUE A FORMAL STATEMENT. WE COULD COMMUNICATE FASTER. THAT'S [1:27:28] A REALLY FAIR CRITICISM OF ALL OF THIS. BUT TO GATHER ACCURATE [1:27:34] INFORMATION TAKES A WHILE. GETTING VERIFIED INFORMATION TAKES TIME. AND WE'VE ALL [1:27:39] LEARNED THIS IN OUR EMERGENCY TRAINING. THE CITY CLEARLY AND AS VERIFIED BY OUR AUDITOR SAYS [1:27:44] THE CITY DID NOT KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON. PROBABLY BECAUSE THE SEPARATION ORDINANCE WORKS BOTH [1:27:50] WAYS. WE WEREN'T BEING TOLD THE INFORMATION JUST LIKE WE AREN'T PER OUR SEPARATION ORDINANCE SHARING INFORMATION. COUNCIL [1:28:01] MEMBER, YOU HAD INFORMATION AT THE SCENE THAT FEDERAL ACTION WAS NOT IMMIGRATION RELATED AND [1:28:06] MPD WAS NOT INVOLVED. AT 11:39 A.M., I THINK WE CALL THAT [1:28:12] CASUAL INFORMATION. BUT THEN SEVEN MINUTES LATER, TWEETING OUT "THEY LIED." [1:28:18] THE INFORMATION THAT THEY SAID TO YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER, AND THAT MPD SAID, THE CITY SAID AND THEY [1:28:24] PUT OUT, THEY GOT IT RIGHT. AND LIKE WE ALSO SAID, WE NEED TO [1:28:30] HELP PEOPLE SAY THINGS TO BE SAFER AND BE SAFER. IN THE REPORT, AND I'M NOT SURE IF THE [1:28:36] AUDITOR SHARED THIS DETAIL OUT LOUD HERE, BUT IT'S PUBLIC AS WE PUBLISH THIS, IT INDICATES THAT [1:28:43] CITY EMPLOYEES FROM LEGISLATIVE STAFF WERE GETTING INVOLVED IN THESE ACTIONS. AND I'M CURIOUS FROM THE AUDITOR'S PERSPECTIVE, [1:28:50] WERE THEY WORKING FOR THE CITY? WERE THEY ON CITY TIME? DID YOU INVESTIGATE THEIR TIME SHEETS AS PART OF THIS REVIEW? BECAUSE [1:28:59] LIKE WE, YOU KNOW, THEY DO HAVE FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS. BUT THERE ARE FEDERAL LAWS AGAINST [1:29:04] BEING ON A TIME SHEET THAT YOU ARE WORKING WHEN YOU'RE INSTEAD ON YOUR OWN EXHIBITING YOUR [1:29:12] FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS. >> CHAIR CHAVEZ, COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO, THANK YOU FOR THE [1:29:17] QUESTION. SO WE DID A FAIRLY THOROUGH REVIEW OF THE [1:29:23] INFORMATION RELATED TO THE EMPLOYEES THAT WE MENTION IN THE [1:29:32] REPORT. THE EMPLOYEES, AND I WANT TO BE MINDFUL BECAUSE THERE [1:29:38] IS NO RECOMMENDATION FOR OR STATEMENT THAT THE ETHICS CODE [1:29:43] HAS BEEN VIOLATED. AND SO I WANT TO BE VERY CAREFUL IN CHOOSING MY WORDS HERE. BUT TO TELL YOU [1:29:50] WHAT OUR METHODOLOGY WAS, YES, WE LOOKED AT TIME SHEETS. AND [1:29:57] WHAT I CAN TELL YOU WITHOUT CONSULTING WITH THE ATTORNEY IS [1:30:03] THAT THE QUESTIONS ON THE SECTION 3, THE QUESTIONS THAT [1:30:09] ARE LISTED THERE ARE RELEVANT TO THE REVIEW AND WHAT WE THINK THE COUNCIL SHOULD CONSIDER BASED ON [1:30:14] WHAT WE OBSERVED ON JUNE 3RD. >> THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR [1:30:20] THIS REPORT. THIS REPORT ALSO ACKNOWLEDGES THAT A COUNCIL MEMBER DID AN OP-ED PIECE. THE [1:30:28] MAYOR DID A PRESS CONFERENCE. BUT IT DOESN'T SAY THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS CONTINUE TO SPREAD A [1:30:33] FALSE NARRATIVE WEEKS LATER THAT I PERSONALLY BELIEVE WAS VERY DAMAGING AND SCARY TO THE COMMUNITY. THIS REPORT WAS GOOD. [1:30:41] BUT I NEED TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND THIS MAKES SENSE BECAUSE YOU'RE AN AUDITOR AND THE SCOPE WAS [1:30:48] NARROW, THAT THIS INCIDENT DIDN'T END ON JUNE 3RD. IT WOULD BE NOTABLE THAT COLLEAGUES AS [1:30:53] STATED PUT OUT FORMAL STATEMENTS IN NEWSLETTERS, SOCIAL MEDIA, [1:30:58] OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT POSTS PERPETUATING INFORMATION THAT TURNED OUT TO NOT BE TRUE. THEY [1:31:05] DIDN'T THEN GO BACK AND CORRECT IT. AND I DON'T THINK THE ANSWER HERE IS ANOTHER AUDIT. BUT I DO HOPE THAT THERE'S [1:31:11] ACCOUNTABILITY. AT FACE VALUE, THE CITY PROVIDED THEM INFORMATION, AND THESE ELECTEDS [1:31:19] OR APPOINTEDS CONTINUE TO PERPETUATE LIES WITHOUT ANY BACKING. SO WITHOUT THIS AUDIT, [1:31:27] WHICH I'M GLAD WE NOW HAVE, THEY CONTINUE TO PUSH MISINFORMATION AND TREAT IT AS FACT THAT THE [1:31:34] ADMINISTRATION LIED. AND I JUST NEED TO SAY THAT AS I READ THIS REPORT, I JUST CAN'T GET BEYOND [1:31:40] YOU CANNOT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS. [1:31:46] >> I'M GOING TO GET BACK ON QUEUE. I'M GOING TO SAY THAT [1:31:52] OVER AND OVER AGAIN BECAUSE THERE'S THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT SANITIZING THE FACT THAT ICE WAS IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND I GET IT'S [1:31:59] COMING FROM A PRIVILEGED PLACE WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE TO EXPERIENCE WHAT ICE ACTUALLY MEANS AND WHAT THEY DO AND WHAT [1:32:05] THEY SIGNIFY, WHICH IS A FAMILY SEPARATOR IN OUR COMMUNITY. IT'S AN AGENCY OF CHAOS. IT'S AN [1:32:10] AGENCY THAT IS MEANT TO TERRORIZE OUR FAMILY MEMBERS. AND IT'S AN AGENCY THAT IS MEANT TO SCARE THE COMMUNITY THEY SHOW [1:32:17] UP TO. POINT BLANK AND PERIOD. IF THEY SHOW UP TO YOUR COMMUNITY, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO [1:32:22] GET NOTIFIED NO MATTER WHAT. AND I'M GOING TO KEEP ON SAYING THAT, AND I'M GOING TO STAND BY WHAT I SAID BECAUSE THE REALITY [1:32:28] IS THAT ICE WAS IN OUR COMMUNITY. PEOPLE CAN TALK ABOUT LIKE WHAT THEY WERE DOING ON [1:32:35] SITE. BUT THEIR MERE PRESENCE IN ON LAKE STREET IN MINNEAPOLIS IN OUR COMMUNITY NEXT TO THE [1:32:41] MINNEAPOLIS POLICE DEPARTMENT IS DAMAGING. THAT'S JUST WHAT IT IS. IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE THAT WAY. THERE NEEDS TO BE PROTOCOLS [1:32:48] IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THAT BEHAVIOR DOES NOT CONTINUE IN THIS CITY BECAUSE WE KNOW FOR A [1:32:54] FACT THAT THIS AGENCY IS GOING TO SEPARATE FAMILIES. AND AS I SAID, I STAND BY EVERYTHING THAT [1:33:00] I SAID. I'M GOING TO REPEAT THAT TO YOUR FACE, COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO, I STAND BY WHAT I [1:33:05] SAID. AND YEAH. I DID NOT LIE. WHEN YOU ARE TOLD IN THE [1:33:11] COMMUNITY AND WHEN FOLKS ON SITE ARE BEING TOLD THAT ICE IS NOT PRESENT AND THEN THEY POP UP [1:33:17] MINUTES LATER, THERE'S GOING TO BE A REACTION. NEXT, I WILL PASS IT TO COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON. [1:33:30] >> YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT THE STAFF, THE THREE STAFF THAT ARE MENTIONED HERE ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THEY [1:33:36] WERE ON CITY TIME. AND AT LEAST FROM WHAT I KNOW, THE THREE STAFF THAT ARE MENTIONED HERE, NONE OF THEM WERE ON CITY TIME. [1:33:43] THAT'S WHAT I KNOW ABOUT -- THAT'S WHAT I KNOW ABOUT THE SITUATION. SO I DON'T KNOW WHY [1:33:49] WE GOTTA DODGE ON THAT QUESTION. THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING ALL OF THEM WERE OUT NOT ON CITY TIME [1:33:56] WHEN THEY WERE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO SAY IN THE CONTEXT OF THIS REPORT SO THAT IT'S NOT [1:34:03] CLEAR. GIVEN WHAT WE WERE SEEING OUT IN THE COMMUNITY, IT WASN'T JUST GOING OUT PARTICIPATING IN [1:34:08] A PROTEST. THERE'S CONSTITUENTSES OUT THERE WHO HAVE REAL NEED IN THE COMMUNITY. [1:34:15] IF COUNCIL MEMBER STAFF WERE OUT THERE DOING CONSTITUENT SERVICE WORK, I ACTUALLY DON'T THINK [1:34:22] THAT WOULD BE AN INAPPROPRIATE USE OF THEIR TIME. I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR. AND BECAUSE OF [1:34:28] THAT, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT THIS ACTION THAT'S HAPPENING IN THE COMMUNITY -- SORRY, IF I'M A [1:34:34] LITTLE NASALLY, I'M RECOVERING FROM A BUG. I ACTUALLY LOOK AT [1:34:39] THESE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE STAFF, DID EMPLOYEES DAMAGE TRUST? DID [1:34:45] EMPLOYEES DISRUPT CITY OPERATIONS? I THINK THESE QUESTIONS ARE LEADING AND WILDLY INAPPROPRIATE, TO BE HONEST WITH [1:34:50] YOU. IF I'M READING THIS REPORT. AND I'M JUXTAPOSINGSING AGAINST [1:34:58] WHAT WE LIVED THROUGH AND SAW OUT THERE. I JUST THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE SAID. THE OTHER THING IS THAT WE'VE SPENT A LOT [1:35:05] OF TIME TALKING ABOUT THE SEPARATIONS ORDINANCE. BUT THE SEPARATIONS ORDINANCE AS FAR AS I KNOW IS NOT THE SOURCE OF WHAT [1:35:11] GAVE PEOPLE THE IMPRESSION THAT MPD WOULD NOT BE WORKING WITH ICE. THE MAYOR GAVE A PRESS [1:35:17] CONFERENCE STATING THAT. THAT'S WHAT CREATED THAT IMPRESSION, NOT AN ANTIQUATED ORDINANCE. SO [1:35:22] I DON'T KNOW WHY THE ORDINANCE AND WHETHER OR NOT THE ORDINANCE WAS VIOLATED BECAME THE MAIN [1:35:28] POINT OF CONTENTION WHEN IT'S NOT THE SOURCE WHERE IT WAS [1:35:35] CREATED. WE CAN CHANGE THE ORDINANCE. WE CAN CREATE BETTER DEFINITIONS. WE CAN, YOU KNOW, [1:35:41] THE MAYOR CAN OUTLINE FURTHER WHAT HE MEANS BY SEPARATION. BUT I DON'T WANT US TO SORT OF SIT [1:35:48] HERE AND MOVE THE GOAL POST WHICH I FEEL LIKE WE'VE DONE HERE BY DISCUSSING WHETHER OR NOT THE ORDINANCE WAS VIOLATED [1:35:53] BECAUSE THE ORDINANCE WAS NOT THE SOURCE OF WHERE PEOPLE GOT THE IMPRESSION THAT MPD WOULD NOT BE WORKING WITH ICE. I THINK [1:35:59] IT'S IMPORTANT TO SAY. YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU KNOW, WE COULD ALL SORT OF FLIP THROUGH THIS [1:36:05] DOCUMENT AND SORT OF TAKE OUR ISSUES WITH IT. BUT I DO THINK THAT THE ONE THING THAT'S [1:36:12] IMPORTANT TO SAY IS THAT THE ETHICS CODE WASN'T VIOLATED NOT FROM OUR STAFF, WHICH IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO ME IN [1:36:18] THIS REPORT. WHEN WE'VE GOT PEOPLE WHO ARE BRAVE ENOUGH WHO WORK FOR THE CITY TO GO OUT THERE AND PUT THEMSELVES ON THE [1:36:25] LINE, PUT THEIR TIME ON THE LINE, PUT THEIR BODIES ON THE LINE TO DEFEND THEIR NEIGHBORS, I DON'T THINK THAT SHOULD BE [1:36:31] REPRIMANDED AND SCOLDED IN A REPORT. I DON'T THINK THAT'S AN APPROPRIATE USE OF CITY RESOURCES. THAT'S ALL I GOT TO [1:36:37] SAY ABOUT IT. I'M WILLING TO KEEP ENGAGING IN THIS DISCUSSION. IF THE CONCLUSIONS [1:36:44] IN THIS REPORT ARE TT PEOPLE NEED TO CALL EACH OTHER QUICKER, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE HAVE TO HAVE [1:36:49] SUCH A LONG DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS REPORT. >> NEXT UP WE HAVE VICE CHAIR CHOWDHURY. [1:36:56] >> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHAVEZ. I'LL JUST FIRST START OFF BY SAYING IF WE'RE GOING TO SAY THAT SOME [1:37:01] OF OUR COLLEAGUES ARE LYING, YOU SHOULD BRING RECEIPTS. [APPLAUSE] >> THAT'S THIS. BECAUSE THAT'S [1:37:07] REALLY UNFAIR. I WAS A COUNCIL [1:37:12] MEMBER THAT WROTE AN OP-ED, AND IT WAS TITLED TOP LEADERS IN MINNEAPOLIS DOWNPLAYED THREATS [1:37:19] TO IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES. BECAUSE THE VERY NEXT DAY, AGAIN, WE SAW A RECORD NUMBER OF [1:37:24] ARRESTS BY ICE. AND AGAIN, WE HAD A MILITARIZED FORCE ON THE GROUND. AND AGAIN, COLLATERAL [1:37:30] ARRESTS HAPPENED. YOU DO NOT NEED TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO DO IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT IF [1:37:37] YOU'RE DEPUTIZED TO DO IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT. WE NEED TO BE READY IN THE REALITY OF THIS MOMENT OF 2025. AND I WOULD [1:37:43] WRITE THAT OP-ED OVER AND OVER AGAIN, AND YOU COULD GO AND READ IT. BECAUSE I DID NOT LIE IN [1:37:50] THAT OP-ED. I ALSO SAID IN THAT [1:37:55] OP-ED THAT LEADERS WERE BLAME SHIFTING AND POINTING FINGERS AND SHIFTING FOCUS AWAY FROM [1:38:02] FEDERAL AGENCIES. WHICH I'M HEARING UP HERE TODAY. AND SO I WANT TO GROUND US BACK INTO THAT. AS THE CITY OF [1:38:10] MINNEAPOLIS, IN THIS PRESENT MOMENT, WE DO NOT HAVE A PROPER [1:38:15] PROTOCOL. WE DO NOT HAVE A PROPER SYSTEMIZED COMMUNICATION CHANNEL. WE DO NOT HAVE CLEAR [1:38:21] PLANS ENTERPRISE WIDE ON HOW WE WILL BE RESILIENT ENOUGH TO PROTECT OUR IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY. [1:38:29] IT WAS SAID THAT OUR POLICE POLICY IS STRONGER THAN THE SEPARATION ORDINANCE. AND I WILL [1:38:36] JUST STATE WITHIN THE REPORT IT SAYS PERMISSIBLE UNDER THE [1:38:41] SEPARATION ORDINANCE AND CURRENT POLICY FOR MPD TO ASSIST FEDERAL AGENCIES, THIS INCLUDES ICE. SO [1:38:49] THAT INDICATES TO US THAT THERE ARE SOME MAJOR GAPS HERE. SOME ISSUES IN RESILIENCY. AND GOING [1:39:00] TO THE SEPARATION ORDINANCE, WHY MYSELF, COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ, COUNCIL MEMBER CHUGHTAI, COUNCIL [1:39:09] MEMBER OSMAN, COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY? >> SURE. >> SURE. SHE'S A BIG ASSIST. WHY [1:39:15] WE AUTHORED IT IS BECAUSE IT IS AN ORDINANCE, AND AMBER, RIGHT. [1:39:22] IT IS AT A DIFFERENT TIME THAT DOES NOT MEET THIS MOMENT, 2003. AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT [1:39:27] DOESN'T GET LOST HERE. AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE HAVE MADE EFFORTS BEFORE TO TRY TO RING AN [1:39:33] ALARM BELL TO MAKE A CHANGE, AND WE HAVE IT RIGHT BEFORE US. I SEE IT AS A TANGIBLE ACTION. OUR [1:39:38] SEPARATION ORDINANCE ASSUMES THERE'S GOING TO BE A GOOD FAITH FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT'S GOING TO TELL US, HEY, WE'RE DOING [1:39:44] IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT. THAT IS NOT THE CASE. OUR SEPARATION ORDINANCE IN SOME WAYS ASSUMES [1:39:50] THAT IMMIGRATIONS CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENT IS ONLY GOING TO DO IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT. THAT IS [1:39:55] NOT THE CASE. OUR SEPARATION ORDINANCE DOES NOT HAVE A [1:40:03] MECHANISM IN WHICH IF MPD IS INVOLVED OR THE CITY'S INVOLVED HOW THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE [1:40:09] REPORTED AND DOCUMENTED AND COLLECTED AND OVERSEEN. THERE'S SOME REALLY BIG QUESTIONS HERE [1:40:15] THAT WE HAVE TO ADDRESS. I JUST [1:40:20] KIND OF WANT TO CLOSE BY SAYING I HOPE EVERYONE THAT CAME HERE [1:40:26] TODAY CAN TAKE SOME TIME TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE AFTER ACTION [1:40:34] REVIEW THAT'S AVAILABLE IN PRINT COPY HERE. BUT ALSO NOW MADE AVAILABLE PUBLICLY ONLINE. I [1:40:39] KNOW WE'RE ON THE AGE OF SOCIAL MEDIA AND THE AGE OF SCROLLING, BUT TAKE SOME TIME TO READ IT [1:40:44] AND REACH OUT TO YOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS, REACH OUT TO YOUR MAYOR, AND HOLD US ACCOUNTABLE. [1:40:50] ASK US TO DO BETTER FOR OUR CITY WITH YOU. DO BETTER FOR OUR IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY MEMBERS. [1:40:55] THERE'S A LOT OF POWER HERE TO DO SO. AND ALSO, THERE IS SO MUCH POWER AT THE EXECUTIVE [1:41:01] LEVEL TO ARRANGE OPERATIONS, TO COMMUNICATE WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS, TO COMMUNICATE WITH [1:41:07] CONSTITUENTS, TO PUT A PROCEDURE AND A PROTOCOL TOGETHER. AS FAR [1:41:13] AS POLICE POLICY GOES, NO CITY [1:41:19] COUNCIL MEMBER CAN LEGISLATE POLICE POLICY. THAT IS ONLY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF [1:41:24] MINNEAPOLIS. IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF WORK TO DO THERE AS WELL. I APPRECIATE [1:41:29] YOUR TIME, YOUR VOICES, AFTER THIS PUBLIC HEARING THAT WILL TAKE PLACE TODAY, THAT NEED TO [1:41:36] CONTINUE TO COME TO CITY HALL. >> THANK YOU. NEXT UP IS COUNCIL [1:41:42] VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I HAD A CHANCE TO CONFER WITH THE CITY [1:41:47] ATTORNEY ABOUT THIS RIGHT BEFORE OR RIGHT AFTER THE QUESTION WAS INITIALLY ASKED OF THE CITY AUDITOR. BUT YOU KNOW, THERE ARE [1:41:54] THREE EMPLOYEES IN THE LEGISLATIVE DEPARTMENT THAT ARE REFERENCED IN THIS REPORT, AND THEIR ACTIONS OR PRESENCE AT THE [1:42:00] INTERSECTION OF LAKE AND BLOOMINGTON ON JUNE 3RD IS [1:42:06] REFERENCED. ALL THREE OF THOSE EMPLOYEES TOOK A SICK DAY OR TOOK PTO THAT DAY, A VACATION [1:42:13] DAY THAT IS A PROTECTED RIGHT THAT THEY HAVE AS A CONDITION OF THEIR EMPLOYMENT. AND SO YOU [1:42:20] KNOW, I TOO WILL ECHO COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON'S STATEMENT THAT IT RUBBED ME THE WRONG WAY THAT [1:42:26] THAT QUESTION WAS DODGED AS WELL, AND THAT SHARING SUCH [1:42:32] INFORMATION IS NOT A VIOLATION OF ANY LAWS THAT WE MUST ADHERE BY AS AN EMPLOYER HERE IN THIS [1:42:39] CASE. YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT [1:42:44] THE ROLE OF THE CITY AND CITY EMPLOYEES IN WHAT HAPPENED AT [1:42:51] THAT INTERSECTION THAT DAY. BUT YOU KNOW SOMETHING I JUST REALLY WANT TO LIFT UP IS BY THE TIME I [1:42:57] ARRIVED ON THE SCENE, THERE WERE HUNDREDS OF RESIDENTS OF THE CITY THAT WERE AT THAT INTERSECTION THAT WERE STANDING [1:43:05] ALONGSIDE AND GATHERING ALONGSIDE OUR IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY THAT LIVES IN THAT [1:43:12] AREA, WORKS IN THAT AREA, FREQUENTS THAT AREA. AND OF THE [1:43:17] HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE THAT WERE THERE, CERTAINLY THERE WERE SEVERAL CITY EMPLOYEES AS HAS BEEN REFERENCED. BUT YOU KNOW, [1:43:23] AROUND THE COUNTRY IN THIS MOMENT, WE ARE SEEING ACTIONS LIKE WHAT TOOK PLACE IN OUR CITY [1:43:31] AND FAR MORE ESCALATORY ONES IN CITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY WHERE YOU KNOW, THE TRUMP [1:43:37] ADMINISTRATION IS COMING IN AND TERRORIZING AND BULLYING AND [1:43:44] INTIMIDATING AND DISAPPEARING MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY. THAT'S A REALLY SCARY TIME WE'RE LIVING IN. AND DIFFERENT WAYS PEOPLE [1:43:49] ARE STEPPING UP. AND WHAT I SAW AND IMPORTANT TO HIGHLIGHT IN THIS MOMENT WAS THERE WAS [1:43:55] HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE WHO HAD THE COURAGE THAT DAY TO SHOW UP THAT [1:44:01] DAY. ALL OF YOU COULD HAVE DONE THAT TOO. BUT ONLY SOME SHOWED [1:44:06] UP. THERE ARE SO MANY EMPLOYEES THAT WORK IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR IN OUR CITY. ONLY SOME CHOSE TO [1:44:12] SHOW UP. THAT'S A FORM OF PUBLIC SERVICE TO ME. I WANT TO COMMEND THEM FOR APPLYING THAT TO [1:44:20] THEMSELVES. IT'S A FORM OF PATRIOTISM TO ME TO SHOW UP FOR THOSE WHO ARE MARGINALIZED, AND [1:44:26] TO TAKE THOSE TYPES OF RISKS ON YOURSELF, ON YOUR REPUTATION, ON YOUR CAREER. TO PUT YOUR BODY ON [1:44:32] THE LINE FOR THOSE WHO ARE QUITE LITERALLY UNDER THREAT OF [1:44:38] DEPORTATION AND MISTREATMENT AND ABUSE BY A GOVERNMENT THAT'S SUPPOSED TO PROTECT THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE. I'M PROUD OF THAT [1:44:49] AND I THINK WE SHOULD ALL BE TOO. THOSE ARE NOT ACTIONS THAT SHOULD BE MISCHARACTERIZED IN [1:44:56] ANY TYPE OF WAY. THOSE ARE NOT ACTIONS THAT SHOULD BE -- THOSE ARE MINNEAPOLIS VALUES PLAYING [1:45:02] OUT IN REAL TIME, COUNCIL MEMBER. THOSE ARE MINNEAPOLIS VALUES TO STAND UP FOR IMMIGRANTS PLAYING OUT IN REAL [1:45:08] TIME. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. >> AND THANK YOU. AND LASTLY -- KNOW, JUST KIDDING. AND NEXT UP, [1:45:14] WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER JENKINS. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHAVEZ. I GUESS, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW [1:45:24] TO FRAME EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN SAID ABOUT PEOPLE BEING [1:45:34] DISAPPEARED, THAT'S ALL TRUE. THE FEAR IN OUR COMMUNITY IS ALL TRUE. I'M GRATEFUL FOR THIS [1:45:44] REPORT. I'M CURIOUS, MR. TIMMERMAN, IF YOU CAN JUST SPEAK [1:45:52] TO WHAT WOULD BE THE RISK OF MPD NOT SHOWING UP AT AN EVENT LIKE THAT? [1:45:58] >> WELCOME. [1:46:03] >> CHAIR CHAVEZ, COUNCIL MEMBER [1:46:08] JENKINS, I THINK IT'S MAYBE A FINE BALANCE OF RHETORICAL QUESTION THERE BECAUSE I THINK [1:46:15] THE ANSWER IS CLEAR THAT THE RISK IN A SITUATION LIKE THIS OF [1:46:20] MINNEAPOLIS POLICE NOT SHOWING [1:46:25] UP IS INJURY, HARM TO OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS, TO PROPERTY IN OUR COMMUNITY. I THINK THAT [1:46:39] WHAT I HAD NOT SAID IN THIS WAY IN THE REPORT BUT I WILL SAY NOW, AND I'VE SAID IT TO OTHERS, [1:46:46] IS THIS GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO THINK ABOUT WHICH DIRECTION [1:46:54] WE WANT MPD -- IF ICE COMES BACK [1:47:02] TO OUR COMMUNITIES. THE RISK IS REAL. [1:47:08] >> AND NEXT UP WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR. YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO SAY I APPRECIATE [1:47:15] THOSE WHO USED THEIR BODIES TO SHOW UP, BUT THAT'S NOT EVERYBODY'S WAY. I CHOOSE TO USE [1:47:20] MY RESOURCES, MY RELATIONSHIP, MY MIND. OTHER TOOLS THAT I HAVE TO SHOW UP FOR IMMIGRANT [1:47:26] FAMILIES IN MY WARD. THIS DAY HAPPENED, BUT THERE ARE SO MANY [1:47:32] OTHER THINGS HAPPENING WITH OUR IMMIGRANT FAMILIES IN MINNEAPOLIS RIGHT NOW THAT I AM PROUD THAT I HELP THOSE FAMILIES [1:47:39] WORK THROUGH AND CONTINUE TO WORK THROUGH. SO WHY SOME CHOSE TO GO THAT DAY, THANKS. GREAT. [1:47:44] THAT'S ON YOU. BUT THAT'S WHAT YOU GET TO DO, AND OTHERS GET TO CHOOSE HOW THEY WANT TO SHOW UP [1:47:49] FOR IMMIGRANT FAMILIES. >> THANK YOU. AND LASTLY, MAYBE, [1:47:56] NOPE, JUST KIDDING. NEXT UP WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON. [1:48:02] >> I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER JENKINS' QUESTION IS A REALLY IMPORTANT ONE. THE RESPONSE MADE ME QUESTION HOW ARE WE DEFINING [1:48:09] RISK? ARE WE TALKING -- I ALWAYS THINK OF LEGAL RISK, FINANCIAL [1:48:14] RISK, THAT'S HOW I THINK OF IT. I FEEL LIKE THE QUESTION IS A LITTLE UNANSWERED. MAYBE THE [1:48:20] ANSWER IS WE JUST DON'T KNOW. WHAT IS THE RISK IF MPD JUST [1:48:25] DOESN'T SHOW UP. SORT OF THIS ETHEREAL WAY WE DISCUSS RISK [1:48:31] COLLOQUIALLY. MAYBE THAT'S A GOOD RESPONSE. I'M THINKING AS A CITY, AS FIDUCIARIES, I'M [1:48:36] THINKING LEGAL RISK, FINANCIAL RISK. DO WE HAVE A RESPONSE FOR THAT? [1:48:42] >> I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE ASKING THE CITY AUDITOR OR -- >> IF YOU KNOW. [1:48:48] >> CHAIR CHAVEZ, COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON, THIS ENTIRE BOOK LISTS [1:48:54] RISKS TO A GOVERNMENT ORGANIZATION. I'D BE HAPPY TO SEND YOU A LINK FOR IT. [1:49:00] >> HOW DO YOU -- >> I MEAN, IT'S NOT ETHEREAL. CHAIR CHAVEZ, COUNCIL MEMBER [1:49:06] ELLISON. THERE ARE REAL RISKS THAT ARE DOCUMENTED THAT GOVERNMENT AUDITORS REVIEW, CONSIDER, AND COMMUNICATE ON. [1:49:13] AND TO COUNCIL MEMBER JENKINS' QUESTION, THE RISK IS TO LIFE AND PROPERTY. THE RISK IS TO [1:49:20] FINANCIAL IMPACT. BUT MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE, THE RISK IS TO [1:49:28] REPUTATION. OUR STAFF'S BEHAVIOR WHETHER THAT'S CITY COUNCIL STAFF, WHETHER THAT'S THE CHIEF [1:49:35] OF POLICE'S STAFF, HAS REAL EFFECT ON REPUTATION OF THE CITY. AND AS I SAID ON THE FRONT [1:49:44] END OF THIS PRESENTATION, I TOOK THIS JOB TO HELP INSTILL AND [1:49:51] REBUILD TRUST IN OUR COMMUNITY. REPUTATIONAL RISK IS A REAL RISK. AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT I [1:50:00] AM VERY SERIOUS ABOUT IN HOW I CHOOSE MY WORDS. SO BELIEVE ME WHEN I SAY THE WORDS THAT I [1:50:07] CHOSE FOR SECTION 3 COULD HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT. >> SURE. SO REPUTATIONAL RISK IS [1:50:13] HOW YOU'RE DEFINING IT IN THAT SPECIFIC ANSWER. THAT'S HELPFUL. >> IT'S HOW THE GOVERNMENT AUDIT [1:50:19] STANDARDS DEFINE IT. IT'S REPUTATIONAL. IT'S LIFE. IT'S PROPERTY. IT'S FINANCIAL RISK TO [1:50:24] THE CITY. >> BUT WHOSE LIFE AND PROPERTY, RIGHT? WE'VE GOT RESIDENTS [1:50:31] RESPONDING TO, WHO ARE PROTESTING FEDERAL ACTIONS THAT [1:50:36] WE HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO QUESTION, THAT PRECEDENT PUTS US IN A [1:50:43] POSITION TO QUESTION, PUTS THE COMMUNITY IN A POSITION TO QUESTION. MPD GETS CALLED BY [1:50:48] THOSE FORCES TO COME AND RESPOND TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND I'M JUST KIND OF WONDERING WHEN WE [1:50:54] THINK ABOUT RISK IN THAT SENSE, ARE WE THINKING, OKAY, WELL [1:50:59] THERE'S FINANCIAL RISK, THERE'S EXPOSURE, LITIGATION EXPOSURE, IF WE DON'T RESPOND TO THE [1:51:06] FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. I'M JUST KIND OF WONDERING IF THAT WAS PLAYED INTO YOUR ANSWER. MAYBE [1:51:12] MY QUESTION IS MORE APPROPRIATE TO THE ATTORNEYS. NOT HERE. BUT [1:51:17] MAYBE THAT QUESTION IS MORE APPROPRIATE TO THE ATTORNEYS. YOUR ANSWER, YOU'RE THINKING [1:51:23] REPUTATIONAL RISK. >> I ALSO SAID FINANCIAL, RISK TO LIFE. I HAD A MUCH MORE [1:51:29] LENGTHY ANSWER TO THAT. >> THANK YOU. NEXT UP WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO. >> I DON'T WANT DIVISION HERE, [1:51:35] AND SINCE WE'LL BE HEARING FROM THE PUBLIC, I DO WANT TO SAY [1:51:41] SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL MEMBER JENKINS BROUGHT UP AS A NEXT STEP. I DO THINK THAT'S THE NEXT CONVERSATION THAT WE NEED TO HAVE. DO WE WANT MPD TO SHOW UP [1:51:52] WHENEVER ICE IS IN OUR COMMUNITY? ICE IS A BROAD ORGANIZATION. THEY DO MORE THAN [1:51:58] IMMIGRATION PUSHES. IN THIS CASE, A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION. BUT IT'S CONFUSING. IT'S [1:52:04] CONFUSING WHEN PEOPLE SHOW UP WITH THAT ON THEIR BACK. THE AUDITOR SAID LIFE, PROPERTY, [1:52:11] REPUTATION. WE CANNOT LEAVE PEOPLE THINKING THAT WE DIDN'T SHOW UP FOR THEM. MPD SAID THEY [1:52:20] SHOWED UP BECAUSE THEY WERE CALLED TO BE THERE. CAN THEY CHOOSE NOT TO BE? I SAW OVER AND [1:52:26] OVER IN FOOTAGE THAT I WOULDN'T HAVE WANTED THOSE ICE AGENTS DIRECTLY INVOLVED WITH COMMUNITY [1:52:32] MEMBERS. I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD HAVE GONE WELL. I THINK IT'S A REAL QUESTION. SHOULD THEY JUST SHOW UP IN RESPONSE TO [1:52:41] A 911 EMERGENCY DURING A SITUATION LIKE THAT? OR DO WE ASK THEM TO COME AND BE A [1:52:50] MEMBRANE BETWEEN OUR RESIDENTS AND FEDERAL AGENTS? THAT'S WHAT THEY DID. IS THAT THE RIGHT [1:52:57] ANSWER? I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS IN A SITUATION LIKE THAT. [1:53:02] I AM EAGER TO LEARN THAT AND HAVE BEEN HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY. [1:53:08] I'VE ALSO BEEN ASKING THOSE OF YOU IN OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT [1:53:13] BRIEFINGS THAT QUESTION. AND I THINK THAT MAYBE THE WAY WE PRODUCTIVELY USE THIS IS WHAT [1:53:20] WOULD WE HAVE DONE DIFFERENT NEXT TIME? WHAT WOULD WE HAVE ASKED MPD TO DO DIFFERENT? DO WE [1:53:26] WANT THEM TO BE A MEMBRANE IN THE COMMUNITY OR NOT? I THINK [1:53:32] THAT'S AN HONEST INQUIRY OUT. I APPRECIATE THAT PEOPLE HAVE [1:53:38] DIFFERING ANSWERS TO THAT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. AND HOPEFULLY [1:53:44] LASTLY WE HAVE COUNCIL VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I'M [1:53:50] ACTUALLY, THE DISCUSSION AROUND RISK REALLY CAUGHT MY ATTENTION. SO LOOKING AT THIS TIMELINE. I [1:53:57] SEE THAT AT 11:14 A.M. THAT DAY OR 11:19 THAT DAY, I APOLOGIZE, [1:54:05] THAT THE HOMELAND SECURITY INVESTIGATIONS HSI AND THE [1:54:11] FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVES INVESTIGATIONS, FBI. AGAIN, HSI IS AN AGENCY OF THE DEPARTMENT [1:54:19] OF HOMELAND SECURITY JUST AS ICE IS AN AGENCY OF THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY. HSI [1:54:28] CONDUCTS INVESTIGATIONS. ICE CONDUCTS ENFORCEMENT. THEY WORK HAND IN HAND TOGETHER. MPD SHOWS [1:54:35] UP ON THE SCENE. LET'S TALK ABOUT RISK HERE. CAN YOU TALK TO [1:54:40] ME ABOUT WHAT YOU BELIEVE THE RISK IS REPUTATIONAL, FINANCIAL, [1:54:47] OR OTHERWISE, OF THE RESIDENTS OF OUR CITY WHO ULTIMATELY FOOT THE BILL FOR ALL OF THIS, AND [1:54:53] ULTIMATELY, WE ARE ALL ACCOUNTABLE TO. THE RESIDENTS OF OUR CITY SEEING THEIR LOCAL LAW [1:55:01] ENFORCEMENT AGENCY APPEARING TO COLLABORATE WITH ICE, THE [1:55:07] DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY, AND HSI? WHAT'S THE REPUTATIONAL RISK OF THAT? [1:55:12] >> CHAIR CHAVEZ, COUNCIL MEMBER CHUGHTAI, I CAN'T SPECULATE TO THAT BECAUSE IN ORDER TO REMAIN [1:55:18] OBJECTIVE AND INDEPENDENT, I CANNOT THINK OR SPEAK ON BEHALF OF OTHER PEOPLE. WHAT WE DO IS WE LOOK AT LEGAL CRITERIA, [1:55:25] WHETHER THAT'S STATE LAW, CITY CHARTER, CITY LAW. DO I HAVE PERSONAL OPINIONS? YES. BUT I [1:55:32] CAN'T SHARE THOSE BECAUSE I HAVE TO REMAIN OBJECTIVE AND STICK TO LEGAL CRITERIA TO COMPARE [1:55:38] ACTIONS AGAINST. >> I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. AND YOU KNOW, REALLY APPRECIATE THAT [1:55:46] YOU HAVE A REALLY RIGID ROLE AROUND MAINTAINING OBJECTIVITY. I'M NOT GOING TO ASK YOU TO [1:55:51] SPECULATE ON YOUR PERSONAL OPINIONS. ON THIS MATTER. I WILL JUST SAY I AM A RESIDENT OF THIS [1:55:58] CITY. I'M AN ELECTED LEADER OF THIS CITY. AND TO ME, THE [1:56:06] REPUTATIONAL RISK THAT IS INCURRED BY THIS INSTITUTION WHEN IT APPEARS THAT THIS [1:56:13] INSTITUTION IS AIDING THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IN DEMONIZING [1:56:21] THIS COMMUNITY IS SUBSTANTIAL. IT IS SUBSTANTIAL, AND LIKE SHOULD BE AVOIDED AT ALL COSTS [1:56:29] IF WE CAN EVER HELP IT. SHOULD BE AVOIDED AT ALL COSTS. WE WANT [1:56:35] OUR RESIDENTS WHEN THEY'RE EXPERIENCING CRISIS TO CALL 911. [1:56:40] THEY'RE NOT GOING TO WHEN THEY BELIEVE THAT WILL RESULT IN FEDERAL ACTION OF ANY TYPE. BUT [1:56:47] IN PARTICULAR, FEDERAL ACTION AROUND THEIR IMMIGRATION STATUS [1:56:52] OR THEIR NEIGHBOR'S IMMIGRATION STATUS COULD BE FURTHER -- MPD [1:56:58] OFTEN WHEN IN COMMUNITY SAYS NO, PLEASE CALL 911 WHEN YOU'RE IN A MOMENT OF EMERGENCY BECAUSE [1:57:04] PEOPLE OPT OUT OF DOING SO FOR SEVERAL REASONS. AND SO I REALLY [1:57:11] WANTED TO MAKE MENTION OF THAT RISK, THAT REPUTATIONAL RISK, THAT LITERAL RISK THAT THIS [1:57:17] INSTITUTION INCURS BY SEEMINGLY, NOT ACTUALLY, RIGHT? BECAUSE THIS REPORT SAYS OTHERWISE. [1:57:23] SEEMINGLY AIDING A DEMONIC FEDERAL ADMINISTRATION. [1:57:31] >> CHAIR CHAVEZ, COULD I FOLLOW UP ON THAT? >> YES, PLEASE. >> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER CHUGHTAI, THANK YOU FOR THAT. [1:57:37] AND REALLY WHAT I JUST WANTED TO SAY IS THANK YOU FOR BRINGING A [1:57:44] CONVERSATION FORWARD ABOUT THE SEPARATION ORDINANCE. CLEARLY THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT [1:57:49] ARE INTERESTED IN CONTRIBUTING TO THAT CONVERSATION. I HOPE THE INFORMATION IN THIS REPORT ALSO HELPS CONTRIBUTE TO THOSE [1:57:56] DELIBERATIONS. AND IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE TO FOLLOW UP WITH OUR OFFICE IF YOU [1:58:01] WANT ADDITIONAL DETAIL, OR EVEN A SITDOWN CONVERSATION. >> THANK YOU. WE HAVE ANOTHER PERSON ON QUEUE. >> I TRIED. [1:58:09] >> ALMOST THERE. >> HOPEFULLY I'LL BE THE LAST, CHAIR CHAVEZ. I JUST WANTED TO [1:58:15] EXPAND THE CONTEXT HERE JUST A LITTLE BIT. KIND OF IN KEEPING WITH THE ROLE OF AUDIT. AUDIT'S [1:58:21] JOB ISN'T JUST TO DO THESE INVESTIGATIONS OF INDIVIDUAL [1:58:28] INCIDENTS. BUT OFTENTIMES WILL TO HIGHLIGHT BROADER -- I [1:58:33] COULDN'T HELP MYSELF BUT TO GO BACK TO THE AFTER ACTION REVIEW FROM THE GEORGE FLOYD UPRISING. [1:58:39] AND WE ARE -- I WANT TO GIVE OUR COMMUNITY TIME TO SPEAK SO I'M NOT GOING TO READ IT VERBATIM. [1:58:45] BUT ESSENTIALLY HIGHLIGHTS THE EXACT SAME PROBLEMS. FAILURE TO COMMUNICATE BY OFFICIALS. THE [1:58:51] COMMUNITY LEFT IN THE VOID. COUNCIL MEMBERS LEFT IN THE VOID. THE COMMUNITY HAVING TO [1:58:57] CREATE INFORMAL CHANNELS TO COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER TO KEEP EACH OTHER SAFE. THAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. THERE ARE [1:59:04] ORGANIC, YOU KNOW, TEXT CHAT GROUPS WHERE RAPID RESPONSE IS [1:59:11] HAPPENING IN THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE THEIR GOVERNMENT IS FAILING TO MEET THIS MOMENT RIGHT NOW, AND OUR COMMUNITY IS MEETING THIS MOMENT. THESE WERE [1:59:17] THINGS THAT WERE HIGHLIGHTED FIVE YEARS AGO. AND WE SPENT THE BETTER PART OF OUR FIRST TERM IN [1:59:23] OFFICE LEARNING ABOUT ALL OF THE NEW TRAININGS AND NEW LEARNINGS THAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE [1:59:28] APPLYING FROM THAT AFTER ACTION REVIEW. AND I COULDN'T HELP BUT CONNECT THAT TO JANUARY 3RD. I [1:59:35] COULDN'T HELP BUT CONNECT THAT TO THE ASSASSINATION OF MELISSA [1:59:47] HORTMAN. I'VE BEEN LEFT IN THE DARK. I'VE BEEN LEARNING ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE GROUND [1:59:53] EITHER THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA OR THROUGH MY COLLEAGUES HAVING THE COURAGE TO GO OUT TO THE [1:59:59] FRONTLINES OR HAVING MYSELF TO GO OUT TO THE FRONT LINES. SO THE AUDITOR STARTED THIS [2:00:04] PRESENTATION WITH A HOPE THAT WE'RE GOING T COME TOGETHER AND CHANGE. AND WE ARE FIVE YEARS [2:00:11] BEYOND THE MURDER OF GEORGE FLOYD, AND I AM STILL SEEING A FAILURE OF THIS ADMINISTRATION [2:00:16] AND THIS INSTITUTION TO ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO RESPOND IN A MOMENT OF CRISIS AND CENTER OUR COMMUNITY. AND I JUST REALLY [2:00:24] WANTED TO SHARE THAT. AND SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ON THIS TIMELINE IS JUNE 1ST, AND THAT [2:00:31] WAS THE DAY OF THE MASS SHOOTING ON BOOM ISLAND. AND I HAVE A REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING WITH [2:00:36] THE POLICE CHIEF, AND I MET WITH HIM THAT MONDAY, AND WE WERE BOTH, YOU KNOW, RECANTING THE [2:00:44] JUST TERROR OF THAT NIGHT. AND HE WAS ACTUALLY EXPRESSING HIS FRUSTRATION WITH WHAT IS NOW [2:00:50] KNOWN PUBLICLY WHICH WAS WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE STARTING THE SAFER SUMMER INITIATIVE THAT [2:00:56] MONDAY, WHICH WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A COLLABORATION WITH LAW [2:01:01] ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES. ALL THESE PARTNERS WERE GETTING PULLED OFF OF THESE TYPES OF KIND OF WHAT [2:01:07] WE CONSIDER CRIME INVESTIGATIONS AND BEING REDIRECTED TOWARDS PRIORITIZING IMMIGRATION [2:01:13] ENFORCEMENT AND THAT WAS BRINGING DAMAGE TO THE SAFER SUMMER INITIATIVE. WE KNOW THAT NOW BECAUSE ALL OF THOSE LAW [2:01:19] ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES HAVE BEEN BRAGGING HOW MUCH THEY'RE REDIRECTING THOSE RESOURCES TOWARDS IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT. [2:01:26] I BOTH DISAGREE AND AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON THAT LIKE YOU KNOW, WE DON'T NEED THAT [2:01:33] LONG OF A CONVERSATION TO SAY WE NEED TO IMPROVE COMMUNICATION. WE DO NEED TO HAVE SOME RIGOR TO [2:01:38] THAT COMMUNICATION THOUGH AND SOME ACTUAL CLEAR PROTOCOLS AND GUIDELINES ON WHO CALLS WHEN WITH WHAT INFORMATION. AND I [2:01:44] THINK THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE CLARIFIED. AND I DO THINK IT IS BENEFICIAL THAT WE UPDATE OUR [2:01:51] SEPARATION ORDINANCE. I THINK THIS REPORT GIVES US SOME REALLY CLEAR THINGS TO CONSIDER IN THAT. AND I THINK THAT IS GOING [2:01:57] TO BE THE WORK THAT WE HAVE TO DO GOING FORWARD. THAT IS THE LEGISLATIVE WORK OF THIS BODY. BUT THAT WORK OF REPAIRING [2:02:03] COMMUNICATION AND NOT LEAVING OUR COMMUNITY IN THE DARK, THAT HAS TO HAPPEN WITH THE [2:02:09] ADMINISTRATION. WE CAN'T DO THAT INDEPENDENTLY AS A GOVERNING BODY. AND SO I'M REALLY HOPING THAT WE ALL TAKE AWAY THE NEED [2:02:19] TO REALLY PUT SOME RIGOR BEHIND THAT EFFORT GOING FORWARD. SO THANK YOU, MR. TIMMERMAN. [2:02:26] >> THANK YOU, CITY AUDITOR. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. I'LL MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE [2:02:34] THAT UPDATE. NOW WE WILL GO ON TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION OF [2:02:40] OUR AGENDA. THIS PUBLIC COMMENT IS COMMITTED TO THE CITY'S ROLE IN MATTERS AND THE CITY'S [2:02:47] SEPARATION ORDINANCE. I WANT TO OFFER A FEW FRIENDLY REMINDERS. BEFORE THE PUBLIC SHARES THEIR [2:02:53] STATEMENTS, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THAT THIS MEETING IS BEING RECORDED. THIS MEANS THAT THE COMMENTS YOU [2:02:59] MAKE CAN BE SEEN AND HEARD NOT JUST BY THE PEOPLE IN THIS SPACE AND IN THIS ROOM, BUT BY ANYONE [2:03:04] WHO IS WATCHING TODAY OR WHO MAY ACCESS THIS RECORDING ON A LATER DATE. WE WANT OUR COMMUNITY [2:03:10] MEMBERS TO BE SAFE, INCLUDING PEOPLE WHO COME AND SHARE THEIR OPINIONS WITH US IN COMMITTEE [2:03:15] MEETINGS. INFORMATION ABOUT IMMIGRATION STATUS IS VERY PERSONAL, AND THE CITY SEPARATION ORDINANCE STATES THAT [2:03:21] CITY EMPLOYEES CANNOT ASK ABOUT A PERSON'S IMMIGRATION STATUS. AS YOU PREPARE TO SPEAK, PLEASE [2:03:28] REMEMBER THAT ANYTHING YOU SHARE IS PUBLIC INFORMATION AND MAY BE AVAILABLE NOW AND IN THE FUTURE BY ANYONE. EACH SPEAKER WILL GET [2:03:34] TWO MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE. SPEAKERS WITH TRANSLATORS GET FOUR MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE. WE HAVE [2:03:40] SPANISH AND SOMALIAN INTERPRETERS AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC TESTIMONY IF NEEDED. THEY [2:03:46] ARE LOCATED IN THE OVERFLOW ROOM. WE ALSO ACCEPT WRITTEN OR TYPED COMMENTS SENT TO US. THE [2:03:52] FORM IS ONLINE AND CAN BE FOUND BY GOING TO [2:03:59] MINNEAPOLISMN.GOV/PUBLICCOMMENT. AND WITH THAT, I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. [2:04:08] THE FIRST FIVE SPEAKERS ARE [2:04:15] MIGUEL, LIZ, MANA, SALLY, NUMBER [2:04:21] FIVE IS A NAME WITH A Y. I CAN'T READ THE REST IT'S CURSIVE. [2:04:28] FIRST UP, MIGUEL. WELCOME. >> HELLO, COUNCIL. MY NAME IS [2:04:37] MIGUEL HERNANDEZ, I'M A RESIDENT OF WARD 12 AND A BUSINESS OWNER IN WARD 10. I'M HERE DEEPLY, [2:04:46] DEEPLY DISAPPOINTED WITH HOW THIS COUNCIL AND MPD AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE ACTED ON JUNE 3RD. I WAS THERE ON [2:04:52] JUNE 3RD. I LIVE IN THAT WARD. WHAT I SAW THERE WAS POLICE [2:04:59] EAGER TO HELP FEDERAL AGENCIES, EAGER. BEFORE THIS TIMELINE, [2:05:08] SUPPOSED FACTUAL TIMELINE, I SAW MYSELF THERE POLICE SPEAKING [2:05:14] WITH FEDERAL AGENTS. AUDIT IS CORRECT IN ONE WAY, MPD AND THE [2:05:20] MAYOR LEFT CITY COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC IN THE DARK. THAT IS UNACCEPTABLE. THE MAYOR KNEW FIRST AND DID NOTHING FOR FOUR [2:05:27] HOURS. AND THEN SHOWED UP THE NEXT DAY. HE SHOWED UP AND TRIED [2:05:34] TO GASLIGHT A COMMUNITY WHO SAW TANKS ON THEIR STREET LIKE NOTHING HAPPENED. PUBLIC DIDN'T [2:05:43] ESCALATE THE MILITARIZED POLICE, THE FEDERAL AGENTS. THEY SHOWED UP WITH RIFLES AND TANKS. WHAT [2:05:50] COULD YOU BRING TO ESCALATE THAT? PEOPLE? SHOUTING. [2:05:56] THEY SHOWED UP WITH TANKS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. I ASKED THE [2:06:03] COUNCIL TO PUT THEIR PRIVILEGES ASIDE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO REACT. WE HAVE FIVE MINUTES. [2:06:08] PEOPLE GET TAKEN IN FIVE MINUTES. THEY'RE GONE. FAMILY MEMBERS. COMMUNITY MEMBERS. I [2:06:14] ASK THIS COUNCIL TO DO BETTER. OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS CREATING CHAOS IN OUR [2:06:19] COMMUNITIES, IN IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES. IF OUR LEADERS DON'T STEP UP LIKE THEY FAILED [2:06:25] TO DO ON JUNE 3RD, WELL SOME OF YOU STEPPED UP, THANK YOU. THE PEOPLE WILL STEP UP. IT WILL [2:06:30] HAPPEN AGAIN. IT'S NOT IF OR WHEN. WE WILL SHOW UP. THANK YOU. [2:06:35] >> THANK YOU. NEXT UP WE HAVE ELIZABETH, NUMBER TWO. [2:06:46] >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS LIZ AND I'M A RESIDENT OF WARD 10 AND A [2:06:52] MEMBER OF THE MINNESOTA IMMIGRANT RIGHTS ACTION COMMITTEE. I WANT TO SPEAK ON A [2:07:02] TRUE SANCTUARY CITY. NO INFORMATION SHARING BETWEEN LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AND FEDERAL AGENCIES, NO LOCAL LAW [2:07:08] ENFORCEMENT DOING CROWD CONTROL FOR FEDERAL AGENCIES, NO IDENTITY CONCEALMENT FOR FEDERAL AGENTS IN OUR CITY, AND REAL [2:07:16] CONSEQUENCES FOR VIOLATIONS OF THE SEPARATION ORDINANCE. MAYOR FREY AND CHIEF O'HARA HAVE SUGGESTED THAT CITIZEN OBSERVERS [2:07:22] AND NON-VIOLENT PROTESTORS WHO SHOWED UP TO THE SCENE ON JUNE 3RD SPREAD FEAR AND [2:07:28] MISINFORMATION BY ACTING AS THOUGH THIS WAS AN ICE RAID. I WAS PRESENT ON JUNE 3RD AS A CITIZEN OBSERVER, AND WE [2:07:36] WITNESSED WITH OUR OWN EYES AND DOCUMENTED WITH OUR OWN CAMERAS THAT ICE WAS PRESENT. THERE WAS [2:07:41] NOTHING THAT PREVENTS ICE FROM MAKING COLLATERAL ARRESTS OF ANY [2:07:46] UNDOCUMENTED COMMUNITY MEMBER THEY CHOOSE. SO FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE COMMUNITY, IT IS PERFECTLY RATIONAL TO TREAT [2:07:54] ANY FEDERAL RAID WITH ICE PRESENT AS AN ICE RAID. FURTHER, [2:08:02] MAYOR FREY CLAIMED -- BUT WE WITNESSED POLICE DOING CROWD CONTROL AND HANDING FEDERAL [2:08:07] AGENTS TAPE TO BLOCK OFF THE SCENE. WE NEED ANSWERS. EITHER THAT VIOLATES THE EXISTING [2:08:13] SEPARATION ORDINANCE, IN WHICH CASE WE DEMAND CONSEQUENCES FOR THAT COLLUSION, OR ELSE IT [2:08:19] DOESN'T, IN WHICH CASE WE DEMAND A STRONGER SEPARATION ORDINANCE. WE WILL NOT REST UNTIL WE CAN [2:08:26] CALL MINNEAPOLIS A TRUE SANCTUARY CITY. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. NEXT UP WE HAVE [2:08:31] MANAL P. WELCOME. [2:08:39] >> THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS MARIA PENRES, AND I LIVE IN WARD [2:08:46] 10. I'M ALSO A MEMBER OF MIRAK. I WAS PRESENT AT LAKE AND [2:08:54] BLOOMINGTON ON JUNE 3RD AS AN OBSERVER WHERE A WITNESSED ICE AGENTS IN A TERRIFYING FORCE. [2:09:04] OTHERS PRESENT WITNESSED MPD ENGAGING IN CROWD CONTROL AND [2:09:09] PROVIDING POLICE TAPE TO FEDERAL AGENTS. -- I WOULD LIKE TO [2:09:17] DEMAND THE IMMEDIATE RELEASE OF ANY 911 CALL TRANSCRIPTS THAT BROUGHT POLICE TO THE SCENE AT [2:09:24] LAKE AND BLOOMINGTON ON JUNE 3RD. I WAS ALSO PRESENT AT THE SEPARATION ORDINANCE HEARING [2:09:29] ON JUNE 23RD WHERE MPD GAVE A BIG PRESENTATION ABOUT THE [2:09:34] DEPARTMENT'S INVOLVEMENT IN THE CITY'S SEPARATION ORDINANCE. IN THIS PRESENTATION, ASSISTANT [2:09:42] CHIEF OF COMMUNITY TRUST GAITERS -- SEVERAL BARRIERS TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE SEPARATION [2:09:48] ORDINANCE SPECIFICALLY THAT A CRITICAL NUMBER OF MPD TRAINEES DO NOT UNDERSTAND THAT AN [2:09:53] INDIVIDUAL'S IMMIGRATION STATUS IS NOT PROBABLE CAUSE. THIS IS EXTREMELY CONCERNING. IT IS [2:10:00] CLEAR THAT THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS NEEDS A STRONGER SEPARATION ORDINANCE WITH CLEAR EXTERNAL MEASURES OF ACCOUNTABILITY FOR MPD. AS A [2:10:08] MEMBER OF MIRAK, I'M HERE TO DEMAND THE CITY TAKE MEASURES OF [2:10:15] REAL SANCTUARY NOW. FEDERAL AGENTS MUST PRESENT IDENTIFICATION, AND THERE MUST BE REAL CONSEQUENCES FOR LOCAL [2:10:21] LAW ENFORCEMENT FOUND TO BE IN VIOLATION OF THE SEPARATION ORDINANCE. THANK YOU. [2:10:27] >> THANK YOU. NEXT UP WE HAVE SALLY LEIBERMAN. [2:10:37] >> THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. I'M SALLY LEIBERMAN, WARD 12. I'M HERE AS [2:10:44] AN INDIVIDUAL TO SUPPORT MIRAK'S DEMANDS TODAY. I WAS PART OF THE [2:10:51] COALITION THAT BROUGHT THE SEPARATION ORDINANCE BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL IN 2003. PART OF [2:10:57] THE CONTEXT AT THAT TIME WAS THAT THERE HAD BEEN -- THERE WAS A VAST EXPANSION OF THE FEDERAL [2:11:04] CAPACITY FOR POLICING AND SURVEILLANCE AT THAT TIME UNDER [2:11:10] WHAT WAS CALLED THE USA PATRIOT ACT. AND PASSING THE ORDINANCE [2:11:18] DIDN'T JUST HAPPEN. IT TOOK SOME HARD WORK TO CONVINCE THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AT THAT TIME THAT IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO [2:11:26] DO. FORTUNATELY, THE COUNCIL MEMBERS CHOSE TO LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY. AND I BELIEVE MINNEAPOLIS HAS BEEN, ALTHOUGH [2:11:32] THINGS AS WE KNOW ARE FAR FROM PERFECT, A BETTER AND SAFER CITY [2:11:38] FOR HAVING THAT ORDINANCE IN PLACE. WE ARE NOW FACING NEW [2:11:47] UNPRECEDENTED CHALLENGES FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND IT IS CLEAR THAT WE NEED TO STRENGTHEN OUR ORDINANCE. I WANT TO SAY [2:11:55] LISTENING TO THE REPORT TODAY, SOMETHING I FOUND VERY DISTURBING IS I BELIEVE THERE WAS A SUBTEXT THAT THE REASON [2:12:00] THE CITY NEEDS TO COMMUNICATE BETTER AND RESPOND BETTER IS [2:12:06] BECAUSE THERE MIGHT BE CIVIL UNREST. THAT IS NOT WHAT THIS ORDINANCE IS ABOUT. THIS IS [2:12:13] ABOUT SITUATIONS WHERE THERE IS A SERIOUS THREAT OF CIVIL HARM. HARM TO THE RIGHTS, THE SAFETY, [2:12:20] THE DIGNITY, AND THE PERSONS OF OUR IMMIGRANT NEIGHBORS. THAT IS [2:12:25] THE THREAT. I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT I WAS AT LAKE AND [2:12:31] BLOOMINGTON ON JUNE 3RD, AND I WAS NOT THERE BECAUSE OF [2:12:37] MISINFORMATION. A LOT OF THINGS WERE NOT CLEAR AT THAT TIME, BUT WHAT I KNEW WAS ICE WAS THERE, [2:12:45] ARMORED VEHICLES WERE THERE. >> THANK YOU. >> ARMED FEDERAL AGENTS WERE THERE AND THAT WAS ALL I NEEDED TO KNOW TO BE THERE. THANK YOU [2:12:52] VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. NEXT UP WE HAVE YAN, THEN JULIA, AND THEN [2:13:00] SOPHIE, SASHA AND KELLY. SO HI. [2:13:05] >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL MEMBERS, MY NAME IS YAN CHEN. I'M ALSO A MEMBER OF MIRAK. [2:13:10] HOWEVER, I WANT TO ADDRESS SOME THINGS THAT I WITNESSED AS AN INDIVIDUAL PRIVATE CITIZEN ON [2:13:15] JUNE 3RD. WHEN I ARRIVED AT NOON AT LAKE AND BLOOMINGTON, MASKED [2:13:21] AGENTS WEARING ICE AND HSI UNIFORMS WERE PRESENT. THE FEDERAL AGENTS WERE THERE IN [2:13:27] MILITARIZED COMBAT YEAR AND -- [2:13:33] COMBAT GEAR AND ARMORED [2:13:38] VEHICLES. -- IT WAS DEEPLY UNSETTLING TO READ CITY OFFICIALS, INCLUDING MAYOR FREY [2:13:45] AND CHIEF O'HARA, DIRECTLY CONTRADICT THE INNUMERABLE [2:13:52] EYEWITNESS ACCOUNTS AND VIDEOS. I LISTENED TO ASSISTANT CHIEF GAITERS GIVE A PRESENTATION LACKING IN ANY DETAIL. WHO IS [2:13:59] ERODING THE PUBLIC'S TRUST IN LAW ENFORCEMENT? THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE AFFECTED COMMUNITIES, FREQUENT THE [2:14:04] BUSINESSES AND WITNESS THE EVENTS FROM START TO FINISH? OR STATE ACTORS WHO BLAME US TO [2:14:10] SAVE FACE? AS A MEMBER OF MIRAK, [2:14:20] I DEMAND -- INCLUDING THE OBSERVED HANDING OF POLICE TAPE AND COMMUNICATING INFORMATION IN [2:14:26] CASUAL CONVERSATION. NO CROWD CONTROL BECAUSE I AND OTHERS WERE FORCIBLY MOVED. BUT MPD WAS [2:14:33] NOT REMOVING THE FEDS -- NO COVER UPS BECAUSE LAW [2:14:39] ENFORCEMENT SHOULD IDENTIFY THEMSELVES TO CIVILIANS, AND YET IN THE CITY, WE HAVE OPERATIONS OF A SECRET STATE POLICE. IN [2:14:46] GERMAN, THAT TRANSLATES LITERALLY AS. ( SPEAKING GERMAN ) [2:14:54] OR GESTAPO. WE NEED OFFICIALS WHO ACT IN BENEFIT TO AGENTS. ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO INVALIDATE [2:15:00] EXPERIENCES OF PEOPLE. THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ALWAYS THERE FIRST AND WILL BE THERE LONG [2:15:05] AFTER LAW ENFORCEMENT HAS LEFT. THANK YOU. >> NEXT UP WE HAVE JULIA, AND [2:15:11] I'LL REMIND THE PUBLIC BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO SIGNED UP TO PLEASE KEEP IT TO TWO MINUTES. IF YOU GO OVER FIVE [2:15:21] SECONDS, BUT IF YOU GO OVER, I'LL CUT YOU OFF. >> IN REGARDS IF WE WANT POLICE [2:15:29] TO BE PRESENT DURING ICE OPERATIONS, THE ANSWER IS NO. I AM A TEACHER AND RECENTLY WE ALL [2:15:35] RECEIVED AN AMBER ALERT OF A YOUNG GIRL WHO IS MISSING. THAT [2:15:40] IS MY STUDENT. HER NAME IS VICTORIA JACKSON. WE NEED POLICE [2:15:46] TO BE LOOKING FOR MISSING KIDS. WE DON'T NEED POLICE TO BE DISAPPEARING PARENTS. IN THE LAST MONTHS, WE HAVE OBSERVED [2:15:54] FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AND MILITARY FORCES BEING USED TO [2:16:00] CRUSH DISSENT -- HSI AND ICE ARE [2:16:07] DISAPPEARING OUR NEIGHBORS BEFORE OUR EYES WITH NO ACCOUNTABILITY. HARASS AND [2:16:12] ASSAULT ANYONE WHO STANDS AGAINST THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S CAMPAIGN OF FEAR. NOW MORE THAN [2:16:18] EVER IT'S CRUCIAL THAT MINNEAPOLIS' SEPARATION ORDINANCE FUNCTIONS TO ENSURE THAT OUR LOCAL POLICE DO NOT [2:16:25] BECOME ANOTHER TOOL TO INSTILL FEAR IN OUR COMMUNITIES. BUT ON JUNE 3RD, WE SAW THAT MPD AND [2:16:32] HENNEPIN COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, THEY'RE ALL TOO READY TOO ASSIST THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN SHOWING THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT TO [2:16:38] WHOMEVER THEY WANT, WHENEVER THEY WANT IN OUR CITIES. THEY SHOWED UP WITH WEAPONS OF WAR. [2:16:43] THEY HID THEIR FACES. THEY BRUTALIZED PROTESTORS. AND MANY REFUSED TO ANSWER THE COMMUNITY [2:16:49] WHO SHOWED UP TO DEMAND ACCOUNTABILITY FROM THEM. MPD [2:16:54] AND CHIEF O'HARA FOUGHT THE VERY PEOPLE THEY'RE SWORN TO SERVE AND PROTECT, SO THEY CAN INSTEAD [2:17:01] SIDE WITH THE GUNMEN INVADING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE DEMAND THAT MAYOR FREY HOLD MPD AND CHIEF [2:17:09] O'HARA ACCOUNTABLE. WE CONDEMN THE USE OF VIOLENCE AND WEAPONS OF WAR AGAINST OUR NEIGHBORS [2:17:15] STANDING UP TO THE HORRORS OF THIS NIGHTMARISH TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. THANK YOU. AND [2:17:20] PLEASE HELP US FIND VICTORIA. >> THANK YOU. NEXT UP WE HAVE [2:17:27] SOPHIE BRENE. AND SASHA, NUMBER [2:17:33] 8, KELLY, NUMBER 9. AARON, NUMBER 10. >> HELLO, MY NAME IS SOPHIE [2:17:42] BRENE AND I'M RESIDENT OF WARD [2:17:47] 8. I'M SO PROUD OF EVERY PERSON WHO STOOD UP AND SAID THIS IS NOT RIGHT. I'M SO PROUD OF THE [2:17:55] CITY EMPLOYEES WHO CARE SO DEEPLY FOR OUR COMMUNITY. THEY'VE DEDICATED THEIR LIVES TO [2:18:00] IMPROVE IT AND THEY KNOW HOW TO STAND UP IN SUPPORT OF IT. TODAY WE ARE HERE TO DEMAND REAL [2:18:08] SANCTUARY NOW. WE SAW MPD WORKING WITH FEDERAL AGENCIES. WE HAVE THE PICTURES OF THEM [2:18:16] HANDING OFF THE TAPE. WE HAVE PICTURES OF THEM TALKING. WE ARE DEMANDING THAT THERE'S NO [2:18:23] COLLUSION. THAT THERE'S NO CROWD CONTROL FROM MPD SUPPORTING OF ICE, HSI OR OTHER FEDERAL [2:18:29] AGENCIES, INCLUDING SUPPORTIVE ROLES. AND WE DEMAND THERE ARE REAL CONSEQUENCES. WE SAW THEM THERE ON JUNE 3RD, AND IT IS [2:18:36] REALLY IMPORTANT THAT THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES FOR THIS. WE FOUGHT HARD TO MAKE MINNEAPOLIS A [2:18:42] SANCTUARY CITY. THE EVENTS THAT TOOK PLACE ON JUNE 3RD SHOWED THE COMMUNITY THAT THE MAYOR'S [2:18:48] UNABLE TO UPHOLD HIS PROMISE OF SAFETY FOR CITY'S RESIDENTS. THIS NEEDS TO CHANGE NOW. THE [2:18:57] IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY IS UNDER ATTACK, AND MIRAC IS READY TO STAND UP AND FIGHT BACK. [2:19:06] SANCTUARY FOR REAL NOW. >> THANK YOU. NEXT UP WE HAVE SASHA. WELCOME. [2:19:16] >> MY NAME IS SASHA, I'M A RESIDENT OF WARD 12, AND I HAVE BEEN A NATURALIZED CITIZEN IN [2:19:26] MINNESOTA FOR 50-PLUS YEARS. I REPRESENT MYSELF AND I WAS AT LAKE AND BLOOMINGTON ON JUNE 3RD. IT IS NOT NORMAL THAT [2:19:31] PEOPLE ARE HIDING THEIR FACES AROUND ICE, BORDER PATROL, AND [2:19:40] HOMELAND SECURITY BADGES. -- OFF THE STREETS, IN SCHOOLS, IN HOSPITALS, IN THEIR HOMES OR AT [2:19:45] THEIR IMMIGRATION COURT APPOINTMENTS. IT'S NOT NORMAL THAT THE PEOPLE ARE BEING DENIED [2:19:51] HUMAN AND LEGAL RIGHTS. IT IS NOT NORMAL THAT STATE AND CITY [2:19:56] OFFICIALS AND LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENTS ARE JOINING THESE UNJUST ACTIVITIES, INCLUDING [2:20:02] ALLOWING HEAVILY ARMED MILITARY VEHICLES AND GEAR INTO OTHERWISE PEACEFUL NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE [2:20:07] OURS, AND NOT PROVIDING FULL TRANSPARENCY. IT IS NOT NORMAL THAT POLICE DEPARTMENTS AROUND [2:20:13] THE NATION ARE USING EXCESSIVE FORCE AND CAUSING SERIOUS [2:20:18] INJURIES OR ARRESTING THEM WITH NO JUST CAUSE, AND YET IT IS HAPPENING. THIS IS FASCISM. AND [2:20:24] I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT OUR CITY COUNCIL WHAT THEY'RE DOING AS FAR AS STRENGTHENING OUR SEPARATION ORDINANCE, AND THEIR [2:20:30] COMMITMENT TO ALL OF THE CONSTITUENTS. AS WE CAN SEE FROM TODAY'S REPORT AND A RECENT [2:20:36] PUBLIC SAFETY MEETING WITH 911 AND MINNEAPOLIS POLICE DEPARTMENT HELD IN WARD 12, IT [2:20:41] IS CLEARLY NOT GOING TO BE ENOUGH. ESPECIALLY WHEN FACTS [2:20:46] AND TRUTH ARE BEING QUESTIONED. FACTS LIKE WE KNOW THE OWNER OF [2:20:53] LAS KWATRAS WAS ARRESTED AND HELD IN ICE DETENTION FOR TWO [2:20:59] WEEKS. THIS IS FACT NOT EMOTION. IT IS UP TO US, THE RESIDENTS, TO BE UNCOMFORTABLE, TO TAKE [2:21:06] RISKS, TO BE PREPARED, TO LEARN HOW TO DOCUMENT FOR ACCOUNTABILITY, TO SHOW UP AND TO BE UNITED. IT'S GOING TO TAKE [2:21:13] US TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY FROM AN EVEN MORE INCOMPREHENSIBLE LEVEL OF [2:21:18] INJUSTICE. WHEN YOU SEE ICE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, IN THE [2:21:24] SCHOOLS, IN THE HOSPITALS, WHAT ARE YOU WILLING TO DO TO FIGHT FOR DEMOCRACY, ITS CONSTITUTION, [2:21:32] CIVIL RIGHTS AND OUR COMMUNITY. >> THANK YOU. NEXT UP WE HAVE KELLY ALLEN. WELCOME. [2:21:43] >> HELLO. MY NAME IS AL. I'M READING THIS ON BEHALF OF KELLY WHO HAD TO LEAVE. I'M IN WARD 9. [2:21:50] I'M AN ORGANIZER WITH THE MINNESOTA IMMIGRANT RIGHTS ACTION COMMITTEE, OR MIRAC AND A [2:21:57] MINNEAPOLIS RESIDENT. I WANT IT SEE MINNEAPOLIS EXPAND AND -- [2:22:06] ICE'S INTEGRATION ENFORCEMENT IN MINNEAPOLIS DESTROYS OUR COMMUNITIES AND AFFECTS ALL OF [2:22:11] US. THE CRUELNESS OF FAMILY SEPARATION CAUSES NEEDLESS SUFFERING. KIDS ARE LEFT WITHOUT [2:22:17] PARENTS, IMMIGRANT OWNED BUSINESSES ARE ABRUPTLY CLOSED, AND PEOPLE ARE DETAINED AND [2:22:25] DEPORTED WHERE THEY CANNOT ACCESS THE NEED FOR MEDICAL CARE. I WAS DEEPLY DISAPPOINTED [2:22:33] AND DISTURBED WHEN I SAW HOW MINNEAPOLIS POLICE ASSIST -- THAT TRUMP HAS AUTHORIZED TO [2:22:39] CARRY OUT IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT. EVEN WORSE, MINNEAPOLIS POLICE JUMPED INTO THIS RAID THAT TOOK PLACE ON [2:22:44] LAKE STREET WHERE A SHORT FIVE YEARS AGO THEY GARNERED SHAME FROM ACROSS THE WORLD FOR [2:22:49] BRUTALIZING PROTESTORS. I WANT TO SEE AN IMMEDIATE END TO THE [2:22:57] VIOLATE CONTROL TACTICS -- COLLABORATION WITH ICE DOES NOTHING TO INCREASE COMMUNITY [2:23:03] TRUST IN LAW ENFORCEMENT. MINNEAPOLIS MUST ADHERE TO ITS SEPARATION ORDINANCE AND STOP COLLUDING WITH FEDERAL [2:23:09] IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS. WE DEMAND TRANSPARENCY ABOUT HOW MINNEAPOLIS POLICE HAVE WORKED [2:23:15] WITH ICE. WE WANT TO SEE REAL CONSEQUENCES, CONSEQUENCES, [2:23:21] INCLUDING PUNITIVE MEASURES FOR POLICE. I JUST WANT TO ADD FOR [2:23:26] MY OWN WORDS SINCE I HAVE 20 SECONDS LEFT. I WANT TO ADDRESS SOMETHING PALMISANO SAID WHEN SHE THREW HER OTHER COWORKERS [2:23:33] UNDER THE BUS SAYING THEY ADDED TO THE CONFUSION AND THAT THEY ADDED TO THE LACK OF SAFETY FOR [2:23:38] BEING OUT ON THE STREETS WITH US AS PROTESTORS. I WANT TO SAY THAT'S BS AND YOU SHOULD BE [2:23:46] ASHAMED YOURSELF. >> LET'S PLEASE BE RESPECTFUL WHEN TESTIFYING. NEXT UP WE HAVE [2:23:53] AARON S. STEVE, S-T-E AND THEN [2:24:06] WE CAN'T READ THE REST. WELCOME. >> HELLO, MY NAME IS ERIN [2:24:15] STENIE. I'M A PROUD RESIDENT WHO RECENTLY MOVED. I'M HERE AS A MEMBER OF MIRAC. I THINK A LOT [2:24:21] OF THE POINTS THAT I WAS PLANNING TO MAKE HAVE BEEN MADE. AND SO I'M GOING TO MAKE SOME [2:24:27] OTHER POINTS. SO I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT THE MPD DID NOT [2:24:33] OFFICIALLY VIOLATE THE ORDINANCE. WHAT THAT TELLS ME IS THAT THE ORDINANCE IS SEVERELY [2:24:39] LACKING, BUT ALSO THAT IF THAT IS THE RESULT OF THESE PAGES, [2:24:47] ONE OF MY BIGGEST CONCERNS IS HOW DEHUMANIZING THIS IS TO HAVE THIS PACKET OF INFORMATION THAT [2:24:53] IS FOCUSED ON AN ORDINANCE THAT WE'VE KIND OF ESTABLISHED ISN'T SUPER EFFECTIVE RATHER THAN THE [2:25:02] IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY OR THE IMPACT IN TRUST IN MINNEAPOLIS [2:25:07] POLICE DEPARTMENT. I THINK THAT'S A LOT MORE RELEVANT, [2:25:12] ESPECIALLY AFTER ALL THESE REPORTS THAT HAVE COME FROM OTHER TRAGEDIES. I ALSO THINK [2:25:20] THAT -- WELL ACTUALLY LET'S GO WITH THIS. SO I'M NOT SURE IF MANY OF YOU HAVE WIBEEN TO A KN [2:25:29] YOUR RIGHTS TRAINING BEFORE, ESPECIALLY AROUND IMMIGRATION. FOR THOSE WHO HAVEN'T, AND ESPECIALLY WHO IDENTIFY AS WHITE [2:25:35] LIKE MYSELF, I THOUGHT THAT I KNEW WHAT TO EXPECT GOING IN. AND WHAT I NEED YOU TO KNOW IS [2:25:44] THAT THE KNOW YOUR RIGHTS TRAINING BECAME THIS IS WHAT [2:25:54] HAPPENED -- WRIST AS A BRACELET IN CASE YOU DON'T COME HOME. SO IF YOU DON'T HAVE EMPATHY FOR [2:26:01] YOUR CONSTITUENTS WHO MAY NOT BE [2:26:06] DOCUMENTED, AT LEAST HAVE EMPATHY FOR YOUR KIDS AND UNDERSTAND THE REALITY OF THEIR SITUATION. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. NEXT UP WE HAVE [2:26:13] JIM, NUMBER 11. WELCOME. [2:26:31] >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I'M JIM [2:26:36] RAMNERINE FROM WARD 11. AND I'LL MAKE MY COMMENTS BRIEF. I'M [2:26:43] REPRESENTING INDIVISIBLE TWIN CITIES, HOWEVER, I'M NOT RECOGNIZED AS SPEAKING FOR THEM. I'M SPEAKING FOR MYSELF. WE ARE [2:26:48] WORKING WITH ALL OF THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE SPOKEN EARLIER. I JUST WANT TO QUICKLY [2:26:54] ADD A FEW THINGS. FIRST OF ALL, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO RECOGNIZE THAT WE ARE DEALING [2:27:03] WITH A ARMED AUTHORITARIAN GOVERNMENT RIGHT NOW. THIS IS A TIME FOR US TO MAKE SERIOUS [2:27:09] CHANGES. THIS IS NOT A TIME FOR THE COUNCIL TO BE TIMID. WE'RE [2:27:15] DEALING WITH AN ORGANIZATION ICE THAT'S NOW BEING SUPPORTED BY EVERY OTHER ARMED PART OF THE [2:27:22] GOVERNMENT. HSI WAS DOING INVESTIGATIONS. THEY HAVE NOW BEEN TRANSFERRED INTO DO [2:27:28] ENFORCEMENT. THE SAME WITH ATF AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS SUPPORTED BY THE FBI. SO WHEN [2:27:33] YOU TALK ABOUT THESE DISTINCTIONS, THEY DON'T EXIST ANYMORE ACCORDING TO WEBINARS THAT I HAVE BEEN ATTENDING IN [2:27:39] THE LAST FEW WEEKS. WE NEED TO CHANGE THE ORDINANCE. IT'S [2:27:44] 22-YEARS OLD. WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING TO ADDRESS. AND [2:27:50] SECONDLY, AS SOMEBODY WHO WORKED FOR HENNEPIN COUNTY IN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT ON A DAILY [2:27:56] BASIS, WHAT ICE IS DOING ERODES THE TRUST IN THE POLICE [2:28:01] DEPARTMENT. OUR POLICE OFFICERS IN MINNEAPOLIS NEED TO DO BETTER TO ENSURE THAT THEY HAVE THE TRUST THAT'S BEING ERODED BY THE [2:28:08] FEDERAL GOVERNMENT RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. NEXT UP WE HAVE [2:28:15] CHRISTINA, 12. ISBELL, 13, HOWARD, 14, AND JESSE, 15. [2:28:21] >> THANK YOU. I AM UNAFFILIATED. I WILL BE SPEAKING PERSONALLY. I [2:28:29] SUPPORT ALL OF MIRAC'S SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS. I HAVE JUST SOME GENERAL THINGS TO AIR. I'M [2:28:36] PROUDLY THE DAUGHTER OF IMMIGRANTS DISPLACED FIRST FROM GERMANY BY WORLD WAR, AND THEN [2:28:43] VENEZUELA BY REVOLUTION. EVEN WITH RACE PRIVILEGE WE ENJOY HERE, I FEELEFLECTS OF [2:28:50] SOLIDARITY WITH IMMIGRANTS EVERYWHERE. -- THEY'RE WORKING [2:28:55] THEIR TAILS OFF AS THEY IN TOTAL CONTRIBUTE MORE TO OUR ECONOMY [2:29:00] THAN THEY IN TOTAL ARE ABLE TO TAKE OUT. I'M ALSO THE GRATEFUL BENEFICIAL TO THEIR DAZZLING [2:29:07] CONTRIBUTIONS TO THEIR CULTURAL INHERITANCE. -- I ASSUME YOU [2:29:13] EXPECT HUMANE TREATMENT OF OUR IMMIGRANTS. ICE'S ILLEGAL AND [2:29:20] SADISTICAL TACTICS -- DISGRACING US IN THE EYES OF THE WORLD. MOST PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM DON'T NEED TO HEAR THIS. BUT IN CASE [2:29:27] ANYBODY DID, THIS IS WHAT I WANTED TO SAY TODAY. LAMENTING THE GRANDDAUGHTER OF FOOTLOOSE [2:29:35] CHEERLEADERS. EVEN THE EDUCATED, EVEN THE COMPASSIONATE, EVEN MY [2:29:40] OWN GRANDPARENTS -- FASCIST PROPAGANDA CAN UNKNOWINGLY [2:29:47] COLLUDE IN HOLOCAUST THAT ONE DAY IT WILL COST THEM EVERYTHING IN THEIR SOULS TO KEEP DENYING [2:29:52] OR ELSE TO FACE THE HORROR OF HAVING SUPPORTED. ALL MY LIFE I'VE TRIED TO WARN THE PEOPLE OF [2:30:00] MY GENERATION AGAINST FALLING -- [2:30:06] ANY COOPERATION WITH ICE IS IN COOPERATION WITH -- UNRESISTED WILL TARGET WIDER AND WIDER [2:30:11] SLOTS OF OUR POPULATION. IMMIGRANTS ARE BEING SCAPEGOATED [2:30:19] FOR THE -- THE DANGER THREATENS ALL OF US. ALL OF US MUST REFUSE [2:30:24] CONSENT FOR ANY COOPERATION WITH ICE. I KNOW I HAVE TO LEAVE. >> THANK YOU. >> WHATEVER IT'S GOING TO TAKE [2:30:30] WE'LL SUPPORT YOU TO DO IT. >> THANK YOU, CHRISTINA. NEXT WE [2:30:37] HAVE ISBELLO -- LOPEZ. WE MIGHT [2:30:44] GO TO A 14. NUMBER 14, HOWARD. [2:30:51] WELCOME. [2:30:58] >> CHAIR CHAVEZ, COUNCIL MEMBERS, HOWARD DOTSON, WARD 2. [2:31:04] I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A FILM FESTIVAL WHERE WE WATCH 1984, [2:31:13] FAHRENHEIT 451, IT CAN'T HAPPEN HERE, AND THE LAST ONE IS A DAY WITHOUT MEXICANS. WE NEED A FILM [2:31:19] FESTIVAL. WE'RE BACK IN THE 1930s. AND THESE BROWN SHIRTS [2:31:25] THAT WERE IN OUR CITY, HOW MANY OF THEM WERE JANUARY 6TH-ERS [2:31:42] WEARING MASKS. THIS IS WHAT I WAS WARNING YOU ABOUT. IN OUR [2:31:47] MEETING WITH LUGER AND THE SOMALI ELDERS GOT SABOTAGED. SO [2:31:55] THE IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY THAT I'VE SERVED FOR 12 YEARS AS A [2:32:00] PRESBYTERIAN MINISTER IN L.A. AND OMAHA AND RENO AND SAINT [2:32:06] PAUL, I'VE WITNESSED AN ICE RAID IN FRONT OF MY DOOR. I PRAYED IN [2:32:13] 2014. I SENT YOU THE PICTURE AT THE MERCADO. I PRAYED WITH THE [2:32:19] LATINOS AS PRESIDENT OBAMA ANNOUNCED DACA EXECUTIVE ORDER. MY HEART IS BREAKING. AND [2:32:27] INSTEAD OF CHIEF O'HARA, THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN MAYOR FREY DOWN [2:32:32] THERE. YOU LOOK AT L.A., MAYOR [2:32:38] BASS, WE NEED A MAYOR WHO IS GOING TO SHOW UP AND PROTECT THE [2:32:43] HUMAN CIVIL RIGHTS OF OUR RESIDENTS. I ASK FOR THE DOJ TO UNITE AGAINST HATE. NOPE. MAYOR [2:32:50] FREY WASN'T DOWN THERE THAT DAY. WE NEED A MAYOR WHO IS IN THE TRENCHES RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE'RE [2:32:55] FACING FASCISM RIGHT NOW. >> NEXT UP, WELCOME JESSE. [2:33:06] >> HEY, EVERYBODY, I'M A WARD 9 RESIDENT. I WANT TO THANK YOU, [2:33:11] COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ FOR YOUR BEING A REPRESENTATIVE OF ME, YOUR PASSION. I WANT TO THANK [2:33:19] THE FIRST SPEAKER, MIGUEL, WHO UNDERLINED WHY WE NEED PASSION AND ADVOCACY ON THIS ISSUE RIGHT [2:33:24] NOW. AND I JUST WISH I DIDN'T HAVE TO ASK IN THE DAYS AFTER THAT RAID WHETHER THE MAYOR, WHETHER THE POLICE CHIEF ARE [2:33:30] READING THE NEWSPAPERS. OR WHAT'S GOING ON, RIGHT. BECAUSE WHAT I SAW WAS THIS SORT OF [2:33:37] NARROW LEGALISTIC DEFENSE OF WELL THIS KIND OF ENFORCEMENT. [2:33:44] THIS WAS THE OBJECT. REALLY WE'RE WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF THE ORDINANCE. I REALLY WORRY ABOUT THAT BECAUSE AS OTHER FOLKS HAVE [2:33:51] NOTED, WE ARE NOT IN 2003 ANYMORE. WE KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF DOCUMENTATION THAT THE [2:33:56] FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FROM THE TOP DOWN IS OPERATING OUTSIDE OF THE COLOR OF LAW. OUTSIDE OF THE [2:34:01] RULE OF LAW. OUTSIDE OF CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS. THEY'RE DOING IT SYSTEMATICALLY AND [2:34:07] REGULARLY. AND I REALLY WORRY THAT IF YOU'RE BRINGING AS A CITY A NARROW KIND OF LEGALISTIC [2:34:13] APPROACH IN RESPONSE TO THIS BEHAVIOR, YOU'RE GOING TO GET ROLLED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT [2:34:20] IT WAS, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S NEED TO CATCH UP WITH CURRENT EVENTS OR IF IT'S JUST A CONCERN [2:34:26] ABOUT MESSAGE, DISCIPLINE OR WHATEVER. BUT WE'VE GOTTA MOVE PAST THAT. I'M ASKING FOR THE CITY TO SUBSTANTIVELY ENGAGE [2:34:32] WITH THIS TERRIFYING AND SCARY AND VERY SERIOUS AND HARD MOMENT. AND I DO NOT WANT MPD TO [2:34:38] BE A MEMBRANE AROUND FEDERAL ENFORCEMENT THAT INVOLVES ICE. I [2:34:44] DON'T. ANYTHING THAT'S CLOSE BY. ANYTHING THAT'S SCARING OUR PEOPLE, I DON'T WANT THAT. I SAW [2:34:50] THAT ALREADY AS A RESIDENT, I SAW WHAT IT WAS LIKE WHEN MPD [2:34:58] FORMED A MEMBRANE AROUND LAW ENFORCEMENT, PROTECTED THE BADGE INSTEAD OF PROTECTING [2:35:05] PROTESTORS, MY NEIGHBORS, BUSINESSES. I ALREADY SAW THAT ONCE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. NEXT UP WE HAVE ELLIE, NUMBER 16. [2:35:18] >> CHAIR, THANK YOU. ELI SHERMAN, WARD 3 RESIDENT. THANK [2:35:24] YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TODAY. I JUST WANTED TO ASK A SIMPLE QUESTION, WHY SHOULD ANY OF US [2:35:29] TRUST THE FEDS RIGHT NOW? THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO REASON TO HAVE [2:35:34] ANY SORT OF TRUST WHEN IT COMES TO FEDERAL AGENTS MOVING INTO OUR CITY, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT IS [2:35:40] WITH MILITARIZED EQUIPMENT, GEAR, AND ZIP TIES. CLEARLY IN MY OPINION THAT THEY INTEND TO [2:35:47] USE ON PEOPLE EITHER IN OR OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING THAT SHOW UP TO PUSH AGAINST THEM IN [2:35:53] WHATEVER WAY. WE HAVE A DUTY RIGHT NOW AS A COMMUNITY TO BAND [2:36:01] AROUND THE IMMIGRANTS WHO RUN THIS CITY, WHO RUN THIS COUNTRY. WE DO NOT EXIST WITHOUT THEM. WE [2:36:09] VERY OFTEN ERASE THE CONTRIBUTIONS THAT THESE INDIVIDUALS HAVE REGARDLESS OF [2:36:14] THEIR DOCUMENTATION STATUS. AND I THINK IT'S WRONG TO ALSO SIT UP HERE AND HAND WRING ABOUT [2:36:21] INVOLVEMENT OF YOUR COLLEAGUES IN PROTESTS AND EXERCISING OF THEIR FREE SPEECH. I MEAN, IT'S [2:36:27] PRETTY CLASSIC THAT YOU KNOW, PEOPLE AREN'T HERE RIGHT NOW TO HEAR THIS. BUT I'D LIKE TO CLEAR [2:36:33] UP THE TIMELINE FROM SOME OF THE [2:36:38] THINGS THAT WERE MENTIONED. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GAP IN [2:36:45] COMMUNICATION. THE MAYOR FOUND OUT AT 10:45. 45 MINUTES IS A LONG TIME. I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHO [2:36:52] THE POLICE CHIEF WAS SPEAKING TO. AFTER THAT, THE MAYOR KNEW AT 10:45. THE FIRST I SAW OF ANY [2:36:59] COUNCIL MEMBER IN THAT ACTION WAS AFTER THAT MOMENT. ALL IT COULD HAVE TAKEN WAS HIM PICKING UP THE PHONE AND CALLING PEOPLE. [2:37:06] HE'S SHOWN TIME AND TIME AGAIN HE'S WILLING TO TRUST THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AT THEIR WORD AND NOT WILLING TO TRUST THE [2:37:13] WORD OF HIS COLLEAGUES AND WHAT THEY SEE EVERY DAY. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. NEXT UP WE HAVE [2:37:24] ISABEL LOPEZ. AND THEN JASON, [2:37:31] 18, MARGUERITE, 19, KATE, 20. [2:37:37] >> HELLO AND GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS CHINO. I'M [2:37:43] HERE TO INTRODUCE ISABEL LOPEZ WHO IS A 27-YEAR OLD POET, COMMUNITY ORGANIZER, AND MEMBER [2:37:49] OF THE INDIGENOUS PROTECTION MOVEMENT. SHE WAS ARRESTED BY THE FBI. HER ARREST CAME JUST [2:37:55] DAYS AFTER PARTICIPATING IN A JUNE 3RD PROTEST AGAINST ICE. [2:38:01] ISA WHO WAS PRESENT AT THE SCENE WAS BODY SLAMMED AND STOMPED ON BY FEDERAL OFFICERS AND NOT [2:38:08] PROTECTED BY LOCAL OFFICIALS. ISA CAN EXPLAIN AGENCIES LIKE [2:38:18] ICE -- AND HOW WHAT HAPPENED ON JUNE 3RD IS CONNECTED TO A MUCH LARGER AND OLDER INSTITUTIONAL [2:38:25] NARRATIVE THAT WE NEED IMMEDIATE PROTECTION FROM. [2:38:32] >> ( SPEAKING SPANISH ) [2:38:42] >> YOU GOT THIS. >> FEAR IS A CHAIN THAT THIS [2:38:47] ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN ABLE TO IGNORE -- A CHAIN THAT HAS BEEN WELDING INTO A DEEPER SPIRAL ALL [2:38:53] THROUGHOUT THIS COUNTRY. INVESTING IN THE IMPRISONMENT OF BLACK AND BROWN BODIES IS [2:38:59] NOTHING NEW TO THE U.S. OCCUPATION. IT IS PART OF THE ECONOMY THAT THEY HAVE BUILT THEMSELVES WITH AND ARE ABLE TO [2:39:05] MAINTAIN THEIR MILITANT LEGACY. A LEGACY THAT IS A CORD THAT THEY HAVE DISGUISED AS ROOTS TO [2:39:12] THESE LANDS. WHAT IS HAPPENING TO BROWN AND BLACK IMMIGRANT [2:39:17] FOLKS OF INDIGENOUS DESCENT ALL OVER THIS COUNTRY IS MORE THAN A FORM OF REPRESSION BUT A [2:39:24] CREEPING FORM OF APARTHEID. APARTHEID, A POLICY OR LEGACY OF SEGREGATION OR DISCRIMINATION ON [2:39:30] GROUNDS OF RACE. PERSECUTION IS A PLAIN TACTIC TO OPPRESS AND [2:39:35] NEGLECT THE VOICES AND BODIES THAT CHOOSE TO ACT OUT [2:39:40] OTHERWISE. OPPRESSION LIMITS THE EXISTENCE OF A PERSON AND THE COMMUNITY THEY COME FROM. A [2:39:46] COMMUNITY, PEOPLE, ARE THEY ABLE TO LIVE? ARE THEY ABLE TO GO TO THEIR DAY-TO-DAY LIVES? PEOPLE [2:39:53] DON'T DESERVE TO LIVE IN FEAR. OUR COMMUNITY DOES NOT DESERVE TO LIVE IN FEAR. AND SO I'LL [2:40:01] LEAVE YOU A PIECE FROM MY POEM THAT I'VE WRITTEN. THIS LAND IS [2:40:06] NOT YOUR LAND. IT IS THE HEARTBEAT OF OUR ANCESTORS [2:40:12] LEGACY THAT WHISPER TO US TO NEVER STOP GROWING, TO NEVER STOP HEALING, TO NEVER STOP [2:40:19] LOVING. WHY ELSE WOULD WE LEAVE WHAT WE LOVE FOR A DREAM. -- JUST AS NATURALLY AS THE MONARCH [2:40:27] BUTTERFLY. WE ARE NOT YOUR IMMIGRANTS. WE ARE THE SEED OF THE DESCENDANTS THAT HAVE [2:40:35] TRADED -- THIS LAND RECOGNIZES US, THIS LAND HOLDS US. ( SPEAKING SPANISH ) [2:40:50] >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, ISA. NEXT UP WE HAVE JASON. WELCOME. [2:41:03] >> THANK YOU. MY NAME IS JASON, I AM A RESIDENT OF WARD 10. I [2:41:11] WANTED TO COME AND SPEAK TODAY BECAUSE WHILE I APPRECIATE THAT [2:41:17] THE COUNCIL TOOK ACTION IN REQUESTING THIS AFTER ACTION [2:41:23] REVIEW, IT'S STILL OBVIOUS THAT THERE'S SO MUCH MORE THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE ON ALL LEVELS OF THE [2:41:28] CITY GOVERNMENT. WE NEED THE CITY COUNCIL TO WORK TOGETHER TO [2:41:34] STRENGTHEN OUR SEPARATION ORDINANCE. WE NEED THE MAYOR'S OFFICE TO COMMIT TO BEING HONEST [2:41:39] ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON IN OUR STREETS WITH OUR POLICE [2:41:45] DEPARTMENT COOPERATING WITH FEDERAL AGENCIES. IT IS [2:41:53] INCREDIBLY DISHEARTENING TO COME HERE AND SEE ABOUT HALF OF THE COUNCIL REMAINING AFTER SO MANY [2:41:59] OF YOU AND YOUR COLLEAGUES SPENT TIME BICKERING WITH EACH OTHER AND INSULTING EACH OTHER AND [2:42:06] TAKING UP TIME THAT COULD HAVE BEEN USED TO HEAR WHAT THE IMPACTS ARE IN THE COMMUNITY. [2:42:12] AND I APPRECIATE YOU ALL TAKING THE TIME TO LISTEN TO US. BUT [2:42:17] THIS IS A TIME WHERE WE NEED LEADERSHIP. AND I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU FOR STEPPING UP AND LEANING IN WHERE YOU CAN. AND [2:42:23] ESPECIALLY THOSE OF YOU WHO MADE AN EFFORT TO BE ON LAKE STREET ON JUNE 3RD. I WASN'T ABLE TO BE [2:42:31] AT LAKE AND BLOOMINGTON BECAUSE I GOT CALLED BY PEOPLE I KNOW IN [2:42:37] COMMUNITY WHO ARE UNDOCUMENTED, WHO WORK ON LAKE STREET AND WERE SCARED OF HOW THEY WERE GOING TO GET HOME TO THEIR KIDS. SO I [2:42:43] SPENT THE BETTER PART OF THAT DAY HELPING COORDINATE TRANSPORTATION FOR PEOPLE SO THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO GET ON [2:42:49] THE BUS THAT GOES DOWN LAKE STREET. SO THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO GET ON A BUS THAT GOES DOWN [2:42:55] BLOOMINGTON. THE IMPACTS OF THESE ACTIONS GO FAR BEYOND WHAT [2:43:01] WE SAW THAT DAY. AND I HOPE THAT YOU ALL COMMIT TO MITIGATING THOSE THINGS WITH OUR FEDERAL [2:43:06] GOVERNMENT GOING FORWARD. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. NEXT UP, MARIANNA, [2:43:14] 19. AND IF YOU'RE NOT HERE, [2:43:19] WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT PERSON AND COME BACK IF FOLKS ARE MISSING. [2:43:26] KATE, NUMBER 20. KATE H. [2:43:34] ( ALARM BLARING ) [2:43:39] >> OKAY. NEXT UP WE HAVE JAMES 30 -- NO, 21. [2:43:48] >> MY NAME IS JAMES. AND I AM FRUSTRATED WITH THE CONFUSION IN [2:43:54] THE MEDIA AND THE MPD IN PARTICULAR. THEY SHOULD NOT BE THIS CONFUSED FOR A SITUATION [2:44:00] THAT WAS RATHER CLEAR TO MOST OF US. FOR EXAMPLE, WE NEED MORE CONCRETE DIALOGUE. I'VE HEARD A [2:44:09] LOT OF HSI BEING USED HERE. AND HSI OF COURSE WAS SEEMED TO BE [2:44:15] THE LEAD HERE. BUT I WOULD SAY IT'S SIMILAR TO EVERYTHING ELSE GOING ON IN THE COUNTRY RIGHT [2:44:22] NOW. A SPECIAL TASK FORCE. THAT IS WHAT THEY'RE MAINLY USING IN ORDER TO ABUSE IMMIGRATION [2:44:28] RIGHTS. IN THIS INSTANCE, I WOULD SAY IT'S ESPECIALLY CONCERNING HOW SIMILAR AND [2:44:34] REMINISCENT OF SECRET POLICE IT IS. FOR EXAMPLE, THE ATF, THEIR [2:44:39] ATTIRE LOOKED RIDICULOUS. IT LOOKED LIKE SOMEBODY JUST MADE A UNIFORM THE NIGHT BEFORE. THEY [2:44:46] HAD SOMETHING CALLED THE OTHERS ON. WHICH I HAVE ONLY BEEN [2:44:51] EXPOSED TO THAT THROUGH EXTREMIST GROUPS. SO I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THEY KNOW ABOUT THAT. I WOULD ASK THEM PERSONALLY. I [2:45:00] WOULD ASK YOU WHAT IS OUR PLAN, WHAT IS YOUR PLAN? I'D SAY [2:45:08] INVESTIGATING THESE EVERY SPECIAL TASK FORCE BEFORE THEY GET INTO THIS COUNTRY, WHICH IS A LOT OF WORK I KNOW. BUT [2:45:13] INVESTIGATING BEFORE HAND WOULD BE IDEAL. AND THEN HOW CAN WE [2:45:19] TRUST OUR AUTHORITIES, INCLUDING YOU, TO ACTUALLY HANDLE THIS WHEN FOR THE MOST PART THE COMMUNICATION HAS BEEN VAGUE. [2:45:29] OUR COMMUNITIES ARE LEAVING BECAUSE OF FEAR. MOVING OUT OF THE CITIES. THEY NEED TO BE [2:45:37] ENCOURAGED AND WITH A GENTLE APPROACH ASSURED THAT THEY WILL BE PROTECTED. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. [2:45:45] >> THANK YOU. NEXT UP IS PETER, 22. [2:45:53] >> GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M IN WARD 4. BEFORE I SPEAK TO THE URGENT [2:46:00] NEED FOR COOPERATION WITH ICE, LET'S START WITH THE THING THAT [2:46:08] OFTEN SURPRISES PEOPLE. PRESIDENT OBAMA DEPORTED MORE UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS THAN ANY [2:46:15] OTHER U.S. PRESIDENT IN HISTORY. IN HIS ADMINISTRATION, [2:46:27] 5.24 MILLION WERE REPATRIOTED. HIS ADMINISTRATION FOCUSED HEAVILY ON REMOVING THOSE WHO POSED THREATS TO NATIONAL [2:46:33] SECURITY AND PUBLIC SAFETY. EARNING HIM THE NICKNAME DEPORTER IN CHIEF. AMONG [2:46:42] IMMIGRATION ADVOCATES. IN FACT, PRESIDENT TRUMP LATER REHIRED [2:46:47] OBAMA'S OWN ICE DIRECTOR, TOM [2:46:54] HOLMAN. TO LEAD IMMIGRATION EFFORTS -- HAS MADE IT CLEAR [2:47:01] CITIES, COUNTIES, AND STATES WOULD SIMPLY COOPERATE, ESPECIALLY BY ALLOWING THEM TO [2:47:09] PICK UP VIOLENT OFFENDERS, THERE WOULD BE FAR LESS NEED FOR ICE TO CONDUCT OPERATIONS IN OUR [2:47:14] NEIGHBORHOODS. THIS IS NOT ABOUT [2:47:19] POLITICS. IT'S ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY AND COMMON SENSE. WHEN LOCAL JURISDICTIONS REFUSE TO [2:47:26] HONOR ICE DETAINERS, DANGEROUS INDIVIDUALS ARE RELEASED BACK INTO OUR COMMUNITIES. THAT [2:47:32] FORCES ICE TO GO TO DOOR-TO-DOOR OF RESIDENTIAL AREAS INCREASING [2:47:39] FEAR AND TENSION AMONG LAW ABIDING FAMILIES AND IMMIGRANTS. BUT IF WE WORK TOGETHER, CITY, [2:47:46] COUNTY, AND STATE, WE CAN ENSURE THAT THOSE WHO COMMIT HEINOUS [2:47:51] CRIMES ARE TRANSFERRED DIRECTLY TO ICE CUSTODY REDUCING THE NEED FOR DISRUPTIVE ENFORCEMENT [2:47:58] ACTIONS. 10 SECONDS, IF YOU DON'T MIND. >> FIVE. >> OKAY. FIVE. LET'S NOT MAKE IT [2:48:04] HARDER FOR ICE TO DO ITS JOB. LET'S PROTECT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS BY COOPERATING WITH FEDERAL LAW [2:48:10] ENFORCEMENT. >> THANK YOU. >> IN A WAY THAT PRIORITY [2:48:15] SAFETY. >> NUMBER 23. AND THEN JULIA, 24. [2:48:25] >> IS THIS GOOD? OKAY. PERFECT. HELLO. MY NAME IS KATE. I LIVE IN WARD 8. AND SO I'VE BEEN IN [2:48:34] MANY COMMUNITY SPACES MORE RECENTLY FOR DEBRIEFING AND HEALING. BUT OF WHAT HAPPENED ON JUNE 3RD. AND AFTER THE AUDIT, I [2:48:45] FEEL GASLIT BY CERTAIN COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT ARE NOT HERE. ICE [2:48:52] WAS PRESENT. OVER 30 AGENTS FROM ORGANIZATIONS INCLUDING MPD. MPD [2:49:00] WAS ESCORTING. ASKING THEM QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN THEIR COMMUNITY, IN [2:49:06] MY COMMUNITY, THEY IGNORED US. THERE WAS YOUTH IN THAT SPACE AS [2:49:11] WELL. AND SO THE TRAUMA THAT IS GETTING PASSED TO OUR FUTURE [2:49:17] GENERATION IS IRREVERSIBLE AND IRREPARABLE. THERE WAS A COUNCIL MEMBER, AND IF I'M CORRECT, I [2:49:24] THINK IT WAS PALMISANO, WHAT WERE THE RISKS SEEING MPD WITH ICE THAT DAY. EVEN THOUGH THE [2:49:30] AUDIT SAID THAT THEY DID NOT [2:49:35] BREAK THE SANCTUARY POLICY, BUT WHAT WE SAW ON THAT DAY WAS THE [2:49:41] COLLABORATION. AND SO WITH EVERYTHING THAT WAS HAPPENING THERE, WE SAW THE COLLABORATION HAPPENING THAT DAY. AND SO I [2:49:48] WOULD HAVE LOVED TO SEE EVIDENCE BEING INCLUDED OF THE RESIDENTS OF THIS AUDIT BECAUSE THE PUBLIC [2:49:54] COMMENT IT TELLS A DIFFERENT STORY. I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW, AGAIN, FOR THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT ARE NOT PRESENT, THAT THEY [2:50:02] KNOW THAT THEY HAVE OUR COMMUNITY'S BACKS. THE FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WERE ON THE [2:50:08] GROUND AND STAFF, AND SPECIFICALLY COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT HAVE LIVED EXPERIENCES AND [2:50:15] STAFF, AND SO I ALSO SUPPORT -- THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE [2:50:21] JULIE, 24. AND IF FOLKS HAVE NOT FINALIZED SIGNING UP PLEASE DO [2:50:27] SO BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE PEOPLE IN FRONT OF ME. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHAVEZ. [2:50:34] THANK YOU, COMMITTEE MEMBERS. MY NAME IS JULIE DOUGHERTY, I LIVE [2:50:40] IN WARD 12. I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR HOLDING THIS PUBLIC HEARING AFTER THE REPORT BECAUSE [2:50:47] IT IS SO IMPORTANT TO HEAR WHAT PEOPLE HAVE TO SAY. PEOPLE WHO [2:50:52] COME HERE AND SPEND A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF THEIR TIME TO TALK ABOUT WHAT IS IMPORTANT [2:50:57] TO THEM. AND I NOTICED THAT MAYOR FREY IS NOT HERE. I [2:51:03] NOTICED CHIEF O'HARE IS NOT HERE, AND THE AUDITORS HAVE LEFT. BUT I PARTICULARLY WANT TO [2:51:10] THANK COUNCIL MEMBER PAYNE, COUNCIL MEMBER JENKINS, [2:51:15] CHOWDHURY, CHUGHTAI, AND WONSLEY FOR STAYING TO LISTEN AND HEARING WHAT WE FEEL IS SO IMPORTANT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [2:51:23] >> THANK YOU. ARE WE GOOD WITH TESTIMONY? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. SEEING -- WELL -- [2:51:34] SEEING NO ONE WISHING TO SPEAK ANY LONGER, I WILL NOW CLOSE THE [2:51:39] PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. I CLOSED IT ALREADY. CAN I REOPEN IT? [2:51:47] I'LL MAKE A MOTION WITHOUT OBJECTION TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ONE MORE SPEAKER. AFTER THAT, WE DO HAVE TO MOVE ON. IS THERE A SECOND? [2:51:55] >> SECOND. >> WELL THERE'S NO OBJECTION. NO OBJECTION. THANK YOU. WELCOME. [2:52:01] >> SORRY, I WASN'T PLANNING TO SPEAK TODAY. BUT THERE'S ONE THING. MY NAME IS ESTHER. I [2:52:08] HAVEN'T HEARD ANYBODY SAY THIS YET BUT IT'S THE ONLY THING THAT REALLY MAKES SENSE TO ME. THE [2:52:13] MPD SHOULD BE DEFENDING US FROM FEDERAL AGENCIES. I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER ROLE THEY COULD [2:52:18] POSSIBLY PLAY IF THEY REPRESENT US AND OUR SAFETY AND FEDERAL AGENCIES DO NOT, THEN THE MPD [2:52:24] SHOULD BE DEFENDING US FROM FEDERAL AGENCIES. THAT SHOULD BE THEIR ROLE IF THEY SHOW UP. [2:52:29] THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND I AGREE. SO SEEING NO ONE ELSE [2:52:34] WISHING TO SPEAK, I WILL NOW CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. COLLEAGUES, WE STILL HAVE NOT [2:52:40] FINISHED THE REST OF OUR BUSINESS ON THE CITY COUNCIL. IS THERE ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK? OTHERWISE, I DO WANT US TO MOVE [2:52:45] ON SO WE CAN FINALIZE THIS. GREAT. NO ONE IS ON QUEUE. [2:52:52] SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, MAY I HAVE THE CLERK PLEASE RECEIVE AND FILE THOSE COMMENTS. [2:52:59] WRITTEN AND TYPED COMMENTS WILL BE PUBLIC AND AVAILABLE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE TOMORROW. WITH [2:53:09] THAT, IS THIS NEXT ORDINANCE COW STILL? SORRY, IT'S BEEN A LONG [2:53:15] DAY. WE WILL NOW TAKE UP AN ITEM. THIS ITEM IS ORDINANCE [2:53:21] RELATED TO POLICE OVERSIGHT. THE ORDINANCE -- DUTY STRUCTURE AND [2:53:27] OVERSIGHT. I WILL ALSO NOTE THAT A REVISED VERSION OF THE ORDINANCE WAS POSTED TO LIMS [2:53:34] LAST WEEK AND BEFORE US TODAY. COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE TO SPEAK ON THAT ITEM AND GIVE A MOTION. [2:53:39] >> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHAVEZ. WE RECEIVED A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM [2:53:44] OUR PUBLIC HEARING, AND ALSO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK FROM PROFESSIONAL STAFF. I DON'T [2:53:50] WANT TO RUSH THIS THROUGH. THIS IS A CRITICALLY IMPORTANT ORDINANCE. I'M MAKING A MOTION [2:53:57] TO CONTINUE THIS THROUGH AN ADDITIONAL CYCLE SO I CAN FINALIZE THAT WORK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. [2:54:02] >> SECOND. >> THANK YOU. THAT MOTION HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. NO ONE ELSE IS ON QUEUE FOR DISCUSSION. [2:54:08] ALL THOSE IN FAVOR ON COUNCIL PRESIDENT'S PAYNE'S DISCUSSION [2:54:13] SAY AYE. >> AYE. >> OPPOSED SAY NAY. NO ABSTENTIONS. THAT MOTION [2:54:19] CARRIES. SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION AND BEING THAT WE GAVE THE REPORT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, WE'VE CONCLUDED [2:54:25] ALL BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE THE MEETING TODAY, AND HEARING NO [2:54:30] OBJECTION, I'LL DECLARE THIS MEETING ADJOURNED.