StoryCommunication failures during federal law enforcement operation and audit findingsAugust 1, 2025

Audit Finds Communication Failures During June Federal Operation

Meeting date: Aug 1, 2025
Published Oct 8, 2025

City Auditor Robert Timmerman presented findings Tuesday showing Minneapolis did not violate its separation ordinance during a June 3 federal law enforcement operation, but significant communication breakdowns left City Council members uninformed for nearly four hours.

The after-action review examined the city's response to a federal operation at Lake Street and Bloomington Avenue involving Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), Homeland Security Investigations (HSI), and other federal agencies. While the city learned of the federal action at 9:57 a.m., City Council was not officially notified until 1:50 p.m., according to the audit timeline.

Council members were left with a void of information and an urgency to respond to constituent concerns," Timmerman told the Committee of the Whole. "Federal agents concluded their enforcement actions and left the scene before the full council was even formally notified.

The audit found no evidence that city officials had prior knowledge of the federal operation or that Minneapolis Police Department officers violated the city's separation ordinance. However, Timmerman recommended the city develop communication protocols to notify council leadership during incidents of great public interest.

The meeting drew extensive public testimony from immigrant rights advocates demanding stronger protections and criticizing the city's response. The City Council is currently working to strengthen the separation ordinance, which was originally adopted in 2003 and has not been significantly updated since its creation.

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The August 5, 2025 Committee of the Whole meeting focused primarily on an after-action review of a June 3, 2025 federal law enforcement operation in Minneapolis. City Auditor Robert Timmerman presented findings that while the city did not violate its separation ordinance, there were significant communication failures that left City Council members uninformed for nearly four hours. The meeting included extensive public testimony demanding stronger protections for immigrant communities and criticism of the city's response to the federal action.

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[0:13] [ GAVEL ]. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS JASON CHAVEZ AND I'M THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE. I'M GOING TO CALL TO ORDER OUR

[0:21] REGULAR COMMITTEE MEETING FOR TUESDAY, AUGUST 5, 2025. BEFORE WE BEGIN THE MEETING, I WANT TO

[0:27] OFFER A FRIENDLY REMINDER TO MEMBERS, STAFF THAT THESE MEETINGS WILL BE BROADCAST LIVE

[0:33] TO ENABLE GREATER PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. THESE BROADCAST INCLUDES REAL-TIME CAPTIONING AS

[0:39] A FURTHER METHOD TO INCREASE THE ACCESSIBILITY OF OUR PROCEEDINGS TO THE COMMUNITY. THEREFORE, ALL

[0:45] SPEAKERS NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF THE RATE OF THEIR SPEECH SO THAT OUR CAPTIONERS CAN FULLY CAPTURE

[0:51] AND TRANSCRIBE ALL COMMENTS FOR THE BROADCAST. WE ASK ALL

[0:56] SPEAKERS TO MODERATE THE SPEED AND CLARITY OF THEIR COMMENTS. AT THIS TIME I'LL ASK THE CLERK

[1:04] TO CALL THE ROLL. >> COUNCIL MEMBER PAYNE. >> PRESENT. >> WONSLEY. >> PRESENT.

[1:10] >> RAINVILLE. >> PRESENT. >> VETAW. >> PRESENT. >> OSMAN. >> PRESENT.

[1:16] >> CASHMAN. >> PRESENT. >> JENKINS IS ABSENT. CHUGHTAI. >> PRESENT.

[1:21] >> KOSKI. >> PRESENT. >> PALMISANO. >> PRESENT. >> VICE CHAIR CHOWDHURY IS ABSENT. CHAIR CHAVEZ.

[1:26] >> PRESENT. >> THERE ARE NINE MEMBERS TOTAL. >> LET THE RECORD REFLECT WE HAVE A QUORUM. TODAY, WE'LL BE

[1:36] RECEIVING COMMENTS RELATED TO LAW ENFORCEMENT. EACH PERSON WILL GET TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK OR COMMENT. OUR CLERKS CAN ALSO

[1:43] ACCEPT WRITTEN COMMENTS AS WELL. I'LL BEGIN WITH REPORTS OF OUR STANDING COMMITTEES BEFORE WE TAKE UP OUR AGENDA ITEMS. WE'LL

[1:52] FIRST BEGIN WITH THE ADMINISTRATION AND ENTERPRISE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE CHAIRED BY COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHAVEZ. THE

[2:02] ADMINISTRATION AND ENTERPRISE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE IS BRINGING FORWARD 15 ITEMS. THE FIRST IS GIFT ACCEPTANCE FROM THE MAYOR'S INNOVATION PROJECT FOR TRAVEL,

[2:09] LODGING, AND CONFERENCE REGISTRATION. MAIL EXPENSES FOR

[2:15] AMANDA HARRINGTON TO ATTEND THE MAYOR'S SUMMER 2025 MEETING IN

[2:23] ALBUQUERQUE. SECOND IS A GIFT ACCEPTANCE FROM THE BIG CITIES HEALTH COALITION OF

[2:29] REGISTRATION, LODGING, AND TRANSPORTATION AND MEALS FOR HEIDI RITCHIE TO ATTEND THE BCHC

[2:39] FROM DECEMBER 8TH THROUGH THE 10TH OF 2025. THREE IS A GIFT ACCEPTANCE FROM ILLINOIS

[2:48] ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH ASSOCIATION OF TRANSPORTATION AND LODGING FOR ADAM KALAHAR TO ATTEND THE

[2:54] EDUCATION CONFERENCE AND OGLESBY, ILLINOIS, FROM NOVEMBER 5TH THROUGH 6th, 2025.

[3:00] FOUR IS A GIFT ACCEPTANCE FROM NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF COUNTY HEALTH OFFICIALS OF

[3:05] REGISTRATION, HOTEL, AIRFARE, MEAL AND TRANSPORTATION FOR DAMON CHAPLIN TO PRESENT AT THE

[3:11] NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF LOCAL BOARDS OF HEALTH ANNUAL CONFERENCE IN SAVANNAH, GEORGIA,

[3:18] FROM AUGUST 5TH-8TH, 2025. FIVE IS A CONTRACT WITH BRI PARENT,

[3:24] INC., BENEFIT RESOURCE, LLC FOR COBRA ADMINISTRATION SERVICES.

[3:31] SIX IS A CONTRACT WITH THE REGENTS OF THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA FOR BENCH-SCALE OZONE

[3:38] TESTING RESEARCH. SEVEN IS CONTRACT WITH HAGEN,

[3:43] CHRISTENSEN, MCILWAIN ARCHITECT DESIGN SERVICES. EIGHT IS A

[3:48] CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH UKG KRONOS SYSTEMS FOR PROVIDING

[3:55] TIMEKEEPING AND SCHEDULING SERVICES SOFTWARE. NINE IS CONTRACT AMENDMENTS WITH

[4:02] COMMUNITY . 10 IS A LICENSE AGREEMENT WITH METROPOLITAN

[4:09] COUNCIL FOR THE METRO PASS PROGRAM. 11 IS ACCEPTANCE OF BID

[4:16] FOR ADA IMPROVEMENT. 12 IS

[4:23] CONTRACT AMENDMENTS WITH MULTIPLE AGENCIES. 13 IS CONTRACTS WITH RESTORATION INC.

[4:28] FOR 2025 MINNEAPOLUS STRATEGIC OUTREACH INITIATIVE SERVICES. 14

[4:38] IS CONTRACTS FOR NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY DEPARTMENT. AND THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED

[4:43] $3.1 MILLION IN TOTAL. AND 15 IS A CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH CANOPY

[4:50] ROOTS FOR BEHAVIORAL CRISIS RESPONSE PROGRAM SERVICES. WITH THAT, I WILL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU. THERE ARE NO

[4:56] QUESTIONS. I'D LIKE TO ANNOUNCE THAT WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY VICE CHAIR CHOWDHURY. AND NEXT UP, WE

[5:07] HAVE THE BUSINESS, HOUSING AND ZONING COMMITTEE CHAIRED BY COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN. >> WE'LL BE BRINGING 12 ITEMS TO

[5:19] THE FULL COUNCIL. ITEM 3 IS GRANTING AN APPEAL TO PORT

[5:24] MINNEAPOLIS FOR THE PROPERTIES AT 3601 AND 3701 WASHINGTON

[5:38] AVENUE. -- ITEM 7 IS APPROVING REZONING APPLICATION FROM 1600

[5:44] WEST LAKE STREET LLC THREE ZONED PROPERTIES LOCATED THERE. ITEM 8

[5:49] IS APPROVING REZONING APPLICATION FROM WESSAM SONBOL TO REZONE THE PROPERTIES AT 2900

[5:57] CLINTON AVENUE. ITEM 9 IS AUTHORIZING OWNERSHIP AND OPPORTUNITY FUND LOAN TO

[6:03] PLYMOUTH ACADEMY. ITEM 10 IS

[6:09] AUTHORIZING CONSENT. ITEM 11 AUTHORIZING TEMPORARY

[6:15] CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT FOR 1005 WEST BROADWAY TO BE IN

[6:20] CONJUNCTION WITH DEMOLITION OF 1001 WEST BROADWAY. LASTLY, ITEM 12 IS ACCEPTING AND AUTHORIZING

[6:27] A GRANT FROM THE U.S. DEMENT DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING. WITH THAT, I WILL STAND FOR

[6:33] QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU. THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS. NEXT UP WE HAVE THE

[6:39] CLIMATE AND INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE, CHAIRED BY COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THE CLIMATE AND INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE IS BRINGING FORWARD

[6:45] SIX ITEMS THIS WEEK. ITEM 1, IS

[6:53] AUTHORIZING EASEMENT. ITEM 2 IS AUTHORIZING AN AGREEMENT FOR THE

[7:00] 27th AVENUE NORTHEAST RAILROAD CROSSING IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. ITEM 3 IS APPROVING BLOCK EVENT

[7:07] PERMIT FOR THE DOWNTOWN MINNEAPOLIS STREET ART FESTIVAL WHICH WILL BE AUGUST 9TH THROUGH 10th. ITEM 4 IS AUTHORIZING AN

[7:16] MOU WITH BNSF RAILWAY TO STORE EMERGENCY RESPONSE EQUIPMENT ON

[7:24] CITY PROPERTY. ITEM 5 IS ADOPTING A FEE ASSESSMENT, AND

[7:29] SETTING A PUBLIC HEARING FOR SEPTEMBER 30TH FOR THOSE ASSESSMENTS. ITEM 6 IS ADOPTING

[7:34] REPORT DESIGNATING THE 2026 CITY WIDE STREET MAINTENANCE

[7:40] ASSESSMENT AND SETTING A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE SAME DAY, SEPTEMBER 30TH FOR ASSESSMENTS.

[7:45] I'LL STAND FOR QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU. THERE ARE NO

[7:52] QUESTIONS. AND LASTLY, WE HAVE

[7:57] THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY COMMITTEE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY. >> THANK YOU. THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY COMMITTEE IS BRINGING FORWARD FOUR ITEMS. THE FIRST

[8:03] ITEM IS A PASSAGE OF ORDINANCE RELATED TO EARNED SICK AND PAID

[8:11] TIME. THIS CAME TO COMMITTEE WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION. ITEM TWO IS AUTHORIZING A GRANT ACCEPTANCE FROM THE MINNESOTA

[8:18] DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH FOR A PUBLIC HEALTH RESPONSE SUSTAINABILITY GRANT TO SUPPORT LOCAL RESPONSE TO EMERGENCIES.

[8:24] THREE IS APPROVING APPOINTMENT TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH ADVISORY COMMITTEE. AND FOUR IS

[8:30] AUTHORIZING A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING FOR A DOJ GRANT

[8:36] FUNDED PROJECT FOR PREVENTION AND INTERVENTION OF SEXUAL ASSAULT, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE,

[8:42] STALKING AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING. WITH THAT, I WILL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

[8:51] >> THANK YOU. THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS. NOW WE WILL BE

[8:57] RECEIVING AND FILING A REPORT. I

[9:03] WILL HAND IT OVER FOR A PRESENTATION. WELCOME.

[9:15] >> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHAVEZ, COUNCIL MEMBERS. AS CHAIR CHAVEZ

[9:22] INTRODUCED, I'M ROBERT TIMMERMAN, THE CITY AUDITOR, I'M HERE WITH RYAN FRANSON TO

[9:27] PRESENT THE RESULTS OF THE LIMITED SCOPE REVIEW THAT WE DID ON THE CITY'S RESPONSE TO

[9:33] FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT ACTION THAT OCCURRED ON JUNE 3RD, 2025.

[9:39] IN BRIEF, WE WILL BE GOING OVER WHY AUDIT WAS ASKED TO PERFORM

[9:45] THIS REVIEW, AND THE BENEFITS OF HAVING AN INDEPENDENT AND OBJECTIVE BODY DO SO. WE WILL

[9:52] TALK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED ON JUNE 3RD, 2025. WE WILL COVER THE OBJECTIVE QUESTIONS THAT WE

[9:58] TRIED TO ANSWER IN OUR AUDIT. AND WE WILL OUTLINE ALSO WHAT WE DID AS A PART OF THIS REVIEW.

[10:04] AND THEN FINALLY, WE'LL COVER SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE'VE DEVELOPED FOR THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER, BUT ALSO FOR THE

[10:10] ADMINISTRATION TO CONSIDER. WE'LL MAKE SURE TO LEAVE TIME AT THE END FOR QUESTIONS. SO WHY

[10:17] THE CITY AUDITOR. IT IS MY DUTY AS THE CITY AUDITOR AND MY

[10:23] OBLIGATION TO CONDUCT EXAMINATIONS OF CITY OPERATIONS TO IMPROVE THE MANAGEMENT OF

[10:28] CITY POLICY, FUNCTIONS, AND PROGRAMS. OUR OFFICE DOES SO IN A MANNER THAT IS INDEPENDENT AND

[10:35] FREE FROM INTERFERENCE OR UNDUE INFLUENCE THAT MIGHT ADVERSELY

[10:41] AFFECT OUR OPINION. MY PERSONAL MISSION SINCE STARTING IN

[10:46] FEBRUARY, WHICH I'VE BROADLY SHARED SINCE THEN, IS TO HELP REBUILD AND STRENGTHEN TRUST IN

[10:53] CITY GOVERNMENT. PROVIDING FACTUAL, UNBIASED, NON-POLITICAL REVIEWS THAT ARE FREE FROM

[10:59] INFLUENCE WHETHER REAL OR PERCEIVED IS FUNDAMENTAL TO STRENGTHEN TRUST WITH MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. AUDIT IS THE LOGICAL

[11:10] PLACE TO PERFORM THIS REVIEW SINCE IT IS THE ONLY FUNCTION ACROSS THE ENTIRETY OF

[11:16] MINNEAPOLIS CITY GOVERNMENT THAT HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED BY THE VOTERS THROUGH CITY CHARTER TO BE AN INDEPENDENT EVALUATOR OF

[11:22] ACTIVITIES ACROSS THE CITY. FURTHER, THE OFFICE OF CITY AUDITOR HAS JURISDICTION OVER

[11:27] CITY COUNCIL AND OVER EACH BOARD, COMMISSION, COMMITTEE, DEPARTMENT, OFFICER, EMPLOYEE,

[11:33] AND OTHER AGENCY OR AGENT WHO MUST COOPERATE WITH ANY AUDIT OR

[11:38] INQUIRY AND FINISH ANY INFORMATION THAT THE OFFICE REQUESTS. THE MINNEAPOLIS AUDIT

[11:44] CHARTER REQUIRES AMONGST OTHER THINGS THAT MY OFFICE CONDUCT INVESTIGATIONS OF ALLEGED OR

[11:50] SUSPECTED IMPROPRIORITIY, AND PROVIDE REPORTS TO APPROPRIATE AUTHORITIES. IN THIS CASE, WE'RE

[11:56] REPORTING TO THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE. BY ORDINANCE, THE

[12:05] CITY -- THE OFFICE OF CITY ST AUDITOR ADHERES TO TWO SETS OF AUDITING STANDARDS. THE

[12:12] INSTITUTE OF INTERNAL AUDITORS GLOBAL INTERNAL AUDIT STANDARDS, AS WELL AS THE GAO GOVERNMENT

[12:19] AUDITING STANDARDS. I BRING THESE WITH ME TO EVERY MEETING I COME TO TO SHOW YOU IT'S NOT

[12:25] JUST WORDS BUT STANDARDS THAT WE FOLLOW. BOTH SETS OF THESE

[12:30] STANDARDS ASSERT INDEPENDENCE AND OBJECTIVITY TO BE THE ZENITH

[12:38] OF AUDIT PRINCIPLES. LANGUAGE IN THE CITY CHARTER CODE OF

[12:43] ORDINANCES AND AUDIT CHARTER. OUR OFFICE IS APOLITICAL AND INDEPENDENT FROM INFLUENCE FROM THE ADMINISTRATION, CITY

[12:50] COUNCIL, AND ANY OTHER BODY OR INDIVIDUAL. I WANT TO QUICKLY

[13:00] COVER THE STATE LAW THAT WE NEED TO FOLLOW UP UNTIL WE RELEASE AN AUDIT REPORT. AND THIS IS UNIQUE

[13:06] TO THIS COMMITTEE BECAUSE NORMALLY WE RELEASE OUR REPORTS TO THE AUDIT COMMITTEE WHOSE

[13:12] FAMILIAR WITH THIS. WE MUST BE CONSIDERATE OF WHO WE SHARE

[13:18] INFORMATION WITH, BE MINDFUL OF HOW AND WHEN A REPORT IS PUBLISHED. AND FOR THESE

[13:24] REASONS, WE'RE VERY PRAGMATIC IN OUR PRE-PUBLICATION PLAN TO

[13:32] PROTECT THE INTEGRITY. THE REPORT IN THIS PRESENTATION

[13:37] SHOULD SOON BE ATTACHED TO THE PUBLIC RECORD RCA, IF THEY'RE NOT ALREADY. THAT THEY WILL BE

[13:43] ON THERE. WE ALSO HAVE COPIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE IN THE ROOM HERE. TRADITIONALLY, WE SEEK

[13:52] WRITTEN RESPONSE FROM OUR AUDITEE. IN THIS CASE, BEING A LIMITED SCOPE ADVISORY REVIEW,

[13:57] WE CHOSE NOT TO KNOWING THAT THERE WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR RESPONSE AT THIS MEETING AND IN THE FUTURE. IN THE LAST FEW

[14:07] DAYS, I PROVIDED READ THROUGH OF THE REPORT TO COUNCIL PRESIDENT, CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE, CITY

[14:12] OPERATIONS OFFICER, COMMISSIONER OF PUBLIC SAFETY, AND THE MAYOR'S CHIEF OF STAFF.

[14:17] REMEMBER, MY JOB IS TO REPORT OBJECTIVELY. WE HAVE DONE SO IN THIS REPORT BY BEARING FACTS,

[14:25] OBSERVATIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CAN HELP CITY OFFICIALS AND BODIES MAKE DECISIONS. AT THIS

[14:32] TIME, I'LL TRANSITION TO COMMUNITY SAFETY AUDITOR, RYAN FRANSON, WHO WILL PROVIDE BACKGROUND ON THE EVENTS THAT

[14:38] TOOK PLACE ON JUNE 3, 2025. THE

[14:44] OBJECTIVES, THE LIMITED SCOPE, AND OUR METHODOLOGY FOR PERFORMING THIS REVIEW.

[14:56] >> HOW ARE WE DOING ON VOLUME HERE? I'M SUPER TALL SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU CAN HEAR ME. COOL. OKAY. THANK YOU, CITY

[15:03] AUDITOR TIMMERMAN. MY NAME IS RYAN FRANSON. I DO KNOW SOME OF

[15:08] YOU. IT'S NICE TO MEET EVERYONE FINALLY. I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THE BACKGROUND FIRST. SO FEDERAL

[15:16] LAW ENFORCEMENT PRESENCE ON BLOOMINGTON AND EAST LAKE STREET

[15:21] OUTSIDE TAQUERIA MILLPAS.

[15:29] OBSERVERS EXPERIENCED A MILITARIZED PRESENCE AND FEDERAL

[15:34] AGENTS ADORNING ICE, DHS, AND HSI INSIGNIA. ON JUNE 5TH, THE

[15:46] CITY COUNCIL UNANIMOUSLY REQUESTED THIS INDEPENDENT REVIEW. ON JUNE 9TH, THE CITY AUDITOR AGREED TO PERFORM A

[15:53] SERVICE REVIEW. AT BASE LEVEL, WE FOUND NO RECORD OF COMMUNICATION REGARDING THE

[16:00] FEDERAL ACTION BEFORE 9:57 A.M. ON JUNE 3RD, 2025, WHEN AGENTS

[16:08] WERE ALREADY ON SCENE. FBI AND DHS DID NOT SPECIFICALLY REQUEST

[16:15] M.P.D. ASSISTANCE WITH CROWD CONTROL UNTIL 11:14 A.M. COMPUTER AIDED DISPATCH, BODY

[16:22] WORN FOOTAGE, AND POLICE REPORTS ALL CORROBORATE THIS TIMING. IN

[16:29] FRONT OF YOU IS A CONDENSED TIMELINE OF THE EVENTS. I'LL READ THROUGH SOME OF THESE. SO

[16:35] AGAIN, AT 9:57 A.M., M.P.D. WAS MADE AWARE IT WAS CALLED OUT OVER COMPUTER AIDED DISPATCH. AT

[16:42] 10 A.M., THE CHIEF WAS MADE AWARE. AT 10:45, THE MAYOR WAS MADE AWARE. AT 11 A.M., THE

[16:49] MAYOR'S OFFICE CONVENED THE SITUATION CALLED THIS IS NOT AN

[16:55] IMMIGRATION ACTION. 11:14 A.M., FBI REQUESTS ASSISTANCE. SOME

[17:02] OFFICERS DID ARRIVE A LITTLE BIT BEFOREHAND ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS. BUT BROADLY SPEAKING,

[17:08] THEY ARRIVED AROUND 11:30. 12:39 P.M., A CIVILIAN INJURY

[17:15] WAS REPORTED. 12:43 P.M., M.P.D. POSTS INFORMATION ABOUT THE ACTION ON X. AT 12:47 P.M., THE

[17:25] POLICE CHIEF ARRIVED ON SCENE. AT 1:15 P.M., THE MAYOR CONVENES

[17:30] MAC, THE MULTI-AGENCY RESPONSE. AT 1:50 P.M., CITY COUNCIL WAS

[17:36] NOTIFIED. AND AT 3:54 P.M., THERE WERE TWO ARRESTS FOR

[17:42] OBSTRUCTION. AND THEN WE ALSO

[17:47] TOOK A BIT OF A LOOK INTO SOME OF THE EVENTS THAT OCCURRED AFTER JUNE 3, 2025. SOME OF

[17:55] THOSE INCLUDE A PRESS CONFERENCE FOR OPERATION SAFE SUMMER ON JUNE 4TH, WHERE THE MAYOR, CHIEF

[18:03] OF POLICE TOOK COMMENTS AND MADE STATEMENTS. ON JUNE 5TH, CITY COUNCIL REQUESTED THIS REVIEW.

[18:09] AND ON THE 9th OF JUNE, IT WAS ACCEPTED BY OUR OFFICE. ALSO ON THE 9th OF JUNE, ASSISTANT CHIEF

[18:17] BLACKWELL SENT A MEMO TO STAFF WITH GUIDANCE FOR WORKING WITH FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT. ON

[18:23] JUNE 10TH, THE U.S. ATTORNEY'S OFFICE SHARED SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE INVESTIGATION THAT

[18:29] TOOK PLACE ON JUNE 3RD. ON

[18:34] JUNE 23RD, ASSISTANT CHIEF GAITERS PROVIDES OVERVIEW. ON

[18:46] JULY 8TH, MINNEAPOLIS EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT PROVIDES TRAINING TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON ROLES DURING THE EMERGENCY.

[18:53] OBJECTIVES. THE ASK TO COUNCIL WAS TO PROVIDE THE PUBLIC AND CITY COUNCIL AN INDEPENDENT REPORT AND ANALYSIS ON

[18:58] COMMUNICATIONS AND ACTIONS TAKEN BY THE CITY AND MPD STAFF UP TO,

[19:04] DURING, AND IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE INCIDENT. SOME ADDITIONAL

[19:10] OBJECTIVE QUESTIONS WERE DID ANY CITY OFFICIAL HAVE PRIOR KNOWLEDGE OF THE FEDERAL

[19:16] ENFORCEMENT ACTION ON JUNE 3RD. WERE STATEMENTS MADE TO THE PUBLIC BY THE MAYOR, CHIEF OF

[19:21] POLICE, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TRUTHFUL? WAS THE CITY'S COMMITMENT TO REMAIN RESOLUTELY

[19:28] INDEPENDENT OF ANY IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT BREACHED? DID THE CITY VIOLATE ITS SEPARATION

[19:33] ORDINANCE? AMONGST OTHER THINGS WE REVIEWED POLICE REPORTS,

[19:40] COMPUTER AIDED, BODY WORN CAMERA VIDEO. SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS,

[19:46] COMMUNICATIONS BETWEEN INDIVIDUALS. I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE CITY OFFICIALS AND STAFF

[19:51] WERE SUPER COOPERATIVE AT EVERY POINT DURING THIS INVESTIGATION WHETHER IT CAME TO US ASKING

[19:59] QUESTIONS, MAKING MEETING REQUESTS. AND THEN A LITTLE BIT MORE CONTINUED. IN OUR REPORT,

[20:04] WE ESTABLISHED A FACTUAL TIMELINE OF EVENTS AND COMMUNICATIONS, A PIECE OF WHICH WE JUST WENT OVER IN THIS

[20:11] PRESENTATION. WE COMPARED MPD'S RESPONSE TO SEPARATION ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS. WE DOCUMENTED HOW THE CITY HAS RESPONDED SINCE THE

[20:19] EVENTS OF JUNE 3RD, 2025. I WILL

[20:28] NOW HAND THE PRESENTATION OVER TO AUDITOR TIMMERMAN.

[20:33] >> WELCOME. >> THANKS, CHAIR CHAVEZ, COUNCIL MEMBERS. WE'LL MOVE INTO THE

[20:39] OBSERVATIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS SECTION. CITY OFFICIALS DID NOT

[20:44] HAVE PRIOR KNOWLEDGE OF THE FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT ACTION. THAT WAS ONE OF THE OBJECTIVE QUESTIONS EARLY ON THAT WE

[20:50] WANTED TO LEARN. WE FOUND NO RECORD OF COMMUNICATION

[20:55] REGARDING THE FEDERAL ACTION BEFORE 9:57 A.M., WHEN FEDERAL AGENCIES WERE ALREADY ON SCENE. CITY OFFICIALS LEARNED OF THE

[21:02] FEDERAL ACTION AS EVENTS UNFOLDED. FBI AND DHS DID NOT ASK FOR MPD'S ASSISTANCE UNTIL

[21:11] 11:14. THERE'S NO BODY WORN

[21:16] CAMERA VIDEO AT THE SCENE OF THE FEDERAL ACTION PRIOR TO 11:17.

[21:22] WHO KNEW WHAT AND WHEN. OUR NEXT OBSERVATION DOES HAVE A

[21:27] RECOMMENDATION. THE OBSERVATION IS THAT STATEMENTS MADE BY THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND CITY COUNCIL

[21:33] MEMBERS ON JUNE 3, 2025, WERE TRUTHFUL. WE VERIFIED STATEMENTS TO BE FACTUALLY ACCURATE AT THE

[21:39] TIME THEY WERE SAID OR OTHERWISE COMMUNICATED. WE DO HOWEVER HOLD SPACE FOR DIFFERENT VIEWPOINTS AND INTERPRETATION OF THE EVENTS

[21:45] THAT WERE UNFOLDING. THE OBSERVATION HERE IS THE CITY

[21:51] ADMINISTRATION DID NOT NOTIFY THE CITY COUNCIL OF TRANSPIRING EVENTS FOR NEARLY FOUR HOURS, CAUSING AN INFORMATION VOID THAT

[21:57] LED TO SPECULATIVE COMMUNICATION. SOME CITY COUNCIL

[22:05] MEMBERS MADE SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS WHILE EVENTS WERE UNFOLDING, AND PRIOR TO OFFICIAL INFORMATION BEING COMMUNICATED TO THE

[22:10] COUNCIL. FEDERAL AGENTS CONCLUDED THEIR ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS AND LEFT THE SCENE

[22:16] BEFORE THE FULL COUNCIL WAS EVEN FORMALLY NOTIFIED. COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE LEFT WITH A VOID OF

[22:21] INFORMATION AND AN URGENCY TO RESPOND TO CONSTITUENT CONCERNS. OUR RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THE

[22:27] CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE DEVELOP COMMUNICATION SEQUENCING PROTOCOLS TO NOTIFY

[22:33] COUNCIL LEADERSHIP DURING INCIDENTS OF GREAT PUBLIC INTEREST, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT COULD LEAD TO CIVIL UNREST. I

[22:41] WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW ITEMS FROM THE PRESENTATION. I JUST READ THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE LEFT WITH A VOID OF INFORMATION.

[22:50] BUT TO FURTHER EXPAND ON THAT, WE BELIEVE THAT IMPROVEMENT IN

[22:57] COMMUNICATION ACROSS BOTH BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT AND UPDATES TO ORDINANCE ARE OVERDUE

[23:02] AND INCREASINGLY URGENT. THESE EFFORTS WILL PROVIDE BETTER

[23:07] CLARITY FOR CITY STAFF AND PROTECT THE BEST INTERESTS OF MINNEAPOLIS RESIDENTS. MOVING

[23:13] ON, THE CITY DID NOT VIOLATE THE ORDINANCE. THIS INCIDENT

[23:19] DEMONSTRATED A NEED TO BETTER PREPARE UNITED RESPONSE TO A REAL OR PERCEIVED FEDERAL

[23:26] IMMIGRATION ACTION. WE OBSERVE THAT CITY ADMINISTRATION WORK TOGETHER FOR A SUPPORTIVE

[23:32] RESPONSE ON JUNE 3RD. CITY ADMINISTRATION AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE CONVENED MAC, AS RYAN

[23:38] STATED, TO COLLABORATE ON HOW BEST TO MOVE FORWARD AND COMMUNICATE THE EVENT INTERNALLY AND TO THE PUBLIC. OVERALL, THE

[23:45] CITY'S RESPONSE WAS COORDINATED AND EXECUTED WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF CURRENT CITY

[23:51] POLICY AND ORDINANCE. COMMUNICATIONS WERE DRAFTED AND DISTRIBUTED, AND RESPONSE WAS

[23:57] COORDINATED IN A COLLABORATIVE MANNER. THE CHIEF OF POLICE MADE HIS PRESENCE VISIBLE ON

[24:02] JUNE 3RD. THERE HAS SINCE BEEN DEBATE ABOUT THE APPROPRIATENESS

[24:09] OF HIS PRESENCE. WE DO NOT OFFER AN OPINION ON THIS MATTER, BUT WE DO NOTE THAT IN THE VIDEO

[24:15] FOOTAGE WE REVIEWED, HIS PRESENCE DEMONSTRATED A CALM. HE PROVIDED INFORMATION TO MEMBERS

[24:21] OF THE PUBLIC, AND REPEATEDLY EXPLAINED THAT THAT LAW

[24:27] ENFORCEMENT WAS NOT THERE RELATED TO IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT. WE LEARNED FROM THE

[24:35] 911 STAFF THAT THE COMMUNITY SAFETY COMMISSIONER TODD

[24:43] BARNETTE VISITS THE MINNEAPOLUS COMMUNICATION CENTER TO STAY APPRISED OF THE DEVELOPING SITUATION. SO AGAIN, THE CITY

[24:52] ADMINISTRATION SHOULD INCLUDE EXPECTATIONS FOR THE MINNEAPOLIS

[24:59] POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THEIR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PLANNING FOR WHEN A REAL OR PERCEIVED FEDERAL IMMIGRATION ACTION IS

[25:07] IDENTIFIED. WE TALKED ABOUT THE SEPARATION ORDINANCE NOT BEING VIOLATED, AND WE'LL GET INTO

[25:13] WHAT THE EXISTING SEPARATION ORDINANCE IS HERE IN A MOMENT. ON THE SCREEN, WE'VE PULLED

[25:21] THREE KEY ITEMS FROM THE

[25:27] MINNEAPOLIS CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE 2, CHAPTER 19. SECTION

[25:35] 19.30 IS THE SECTION SPECIFIC TO PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICIALS. AND A1,

[25:43] A3, A4 BEING MOST RELEVANT TO THIS REVIEW. REGARDING SECTION

[25:50] A1, MINNEAPOLIS POLICE DEPARTMENT OFFICERS DID NOT TAKE ANY ACTION FOR THE PURPOSE OF

[25:55] PROTECTING PURPOSES OF UNDOCUMENTED PERSONS NOR TO VERIFY IMMIGRATION STATUS. THERE'S NO INDICATION THAT MPD

[26:02] QUESTIONED ANY PEOPLE ABOUT THEIR IMMIGRATION STATUS, AND OFFICERS WERE NOT DIRECTLY

[26:08] INVOLVED IN THE OPERATION TAKING PLACE. A3, MPD OFFICERS DID NOT

[26:15] QUESTION, ARREST, OR DETAIN ANY PERSONS FOR VIOLATION OF FEDERAL CIVIL IMMIGRATION LAWS. TWO

[26:21] PERSONS WERE ARRESTED BY MPD LATER IN THE AFTERNOON AFTER

[26:27] FEDERAL AGENTS HAD ALREADY LEFT THE AREA. THESE PEOPLE WERE ARRESTED FOR OBSTRUCTION, AND

[26:34] IMMIGRATION STATUS WAS NOT A FACTOR IN ARRESTING OR CHARGING.

[26:44] SECTION A4 -- IN RESPONSE TO CALLS FROM DHS AND FBI, AS

[26:51] PREVIOUSLY NOTED, ACCORDING TO A FEDERAL STATEMENT -- SORRY, AS

[26:57] NOTED IN A FEDERAL STATEMENT MADE BY THE U.S. ATTORNEY'S OFFICE OF THE DISTRICT OF

[27:03] MINNESOTA, THE SEARCH WARRANTS THAT WERE BEING EXECUTED BY THE

[27:09] FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS WERE RELATED TO NARCOTICS, MONEY

[27:14] LAUNDERING, AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING. I SAY THIS LIGHTLY BECAUSE NOBODY KNEW THAT AT THE TIME. THE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION

[27:22] ACCORDING TO THEIR STATEMENT WAS CONDUCTED BY THE FBI, HSI, DEA,

[27:28] IRS, ATF, USMS, AND HENNEPIN COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, NOT THE

[27:36] MINNEAPOLIS POLICE DEPARTMENT. BASED ON AVAILABLE INFORMATION, WE FOUND THAT THE ACTIONS TAKEN

[27:42] BY MPD FALL WITHIN PERMISSIONS LISTED ON THIS SLIDE. THERE'S ADDITIONAL ANALYSIS IN THE

[27:48] REPORT THAT'S BEEN RELEASED TODAY RELATED TO MINNEAPOLIS POLICY. WE ALSO DID NOT FIND ANY

[27:58] INDICATION THAT OFFICERS VIOLATED POLICY. ALL RIGHT.

[28:03] MOVING ON TO THE SEPARATION ORDINANCE AS A WHOLE. THE ORDINANCE WAS FIRST ADOPTED LONG

[28:12] BEFORE THE -- OR BEFORE THE CREATION OF ICE, AND IT HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED SIGNIFICANTLY SINCE

[28:18] ITS ADOPTION IN 2003. WE RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY COUNCIL

[28:26] REVIEW THE SEPARATION ORDINANCE TO CONSIDER POTENTIAL UPDATES. I HAVE MORE THOUGHTS ON THAT THAT

[28:31] ARE IN THE REPORT. BUT WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF THE MECHANISM

[28:37] IN WHICH WE MAKE THOSE UPDATES CONSIDERING THE COUNCIL'S AUTHORITY AND JURISDICTION. SO

[28:43] THAT IS WHY THE STATEMENT IS THAT IT SHOULD REVIEW THE

[28:49] SEPARATION ORDINANCE. IN REALITY, THE SEPARATION ORDINANCE IS OUTDATED, AND WHETHER IT'S THE ORDINANCE

[28:56] ITSELF THAT'S UPDATED OR SOME OTHER MECHANISM, THERE NEEDS TO

[29:01] BE CLARIFICATION IN EXPECTATIONS. ADDITIONALLY, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SHOULD UPDATE

[29:06] ITS RELATED POLICIES BASED ON INFORMATION WE SHARE IN THIS REPORT. IN ADDITION TO THE

[29:15] SECTIONS THAT I ALREADY HIGHLIGHTED IN THE SEPARATION ORDINANCE, WE BELIEVE THE ENTIRE

[29:21] ORDINANCE IS RIPE FOR REVIEW UNDER A MODERN LENS. LANGUAGE SUCH AS THAT FOUND IN THE

[29:27] SEPARATION ORDINANCE'S PURPOSE AND POLICY STATEMENT MAY CONTRADICT MANY PEOPLE'S

[29:34] UNDERSTANDING OF ITS PROTECTIONS. THAT STATEMENT READS, THE CITY WORKS COOPERATIVELY WITH HOMELAND

[29:41] SECURITY AS IT DOES WITH ALL STATE AND FEDERAL AGENCIES. BUT THE CITY DOES NOT OPERATE ITS

[29:47] PROGRAMS FOR THE PURPOSE OF ENFORCING FEDERAL IMMIGRATION LAWS."

[29:52] AS I MENTIONED, ULTIMATELY, WE DEFER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S

[30:01] OFFICE -- TO FORMALIZE THE CITY'S EXPECTATIONS RELATED TO

[30:07] ITS INVOLVEMENT IN FEDERAL IMMIGRATION. TACTICS HAVE

[30:13] CHANGED DRAMATICALLY SINCE THE ORDINANCE IN 2003. UPDATES TO

[30:18] THE ORDINANCE ARE OVERDUE AND INCREASINGLY URGENT. THESE EFFORTS WILL PROVIDE BETTER

[30:24] CLARITY FOR CITY STAFF AND PROTECT THE BEST INTEREST OF MINNEAPOLIS RESIDENTS. FINALLY,

[30:33] IN OUR LAST OBSERVATION WITH RECOMMENDATION, THE CITY COUNCIL ASKS THAT WE REVIEW ACTIONS

[30:39] TAKEN BY CITY -- EXCUSE ME, BY CITY AND MPD STAFF UP TO,

[30:45] DURING, AND IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE INCIDENT ON JUNE 3RD. AS A PART OF OUR REVIEW OF

[30:52] COMMUNICATIONS, MEDIA, BODY WORN CAMERA, AND OTHER EVIDENCE, WE FOUND THAT THREE CITY EMPLOYEES

[30:59] IN THE LEGISLATIVE DEPARTMENT PARTICIPATED IN DEMONSTRATION ACTIVITIES. NUANCES EXIST THAT

[31:07] DID NOT LEAD TO A CLEAR VIOLATION OF THE CODE OF -- THE

[31:12] CITY'S CODE OF ETHICS. WE BRING THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION AS A

[31:19] RECOMMENDATION FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER WHAT IT DEEMS TO BE ALLOWABLE EMPLOYEE ACTIVITIES RELATED TO

[31:25] DEMONSTRATE AND PEACEABLE ASSEMBLY. WE ALSO RECOMMEND CONSIDERATIONS BE GIVEN TO THE

[31:30] FOLLOWING QUESTIONS, WHICH I'VE ALSO INCLUDED IN THE REPORT. IS THE EMPLOYEE APPOINTED? IS THE

[31:39] EMPLOYEE FLSA EXEMPT? IS THE EMPLOYEE ON THEIR OWN TIME? WHAT

[31:45] DEFINES THEIR OWN TIME IF FLSA EXEMPT? HAS THE EMPLOYEE OTHERWISE BROKEN THE LAW? ARE

[31:51] THEY REPRESENTING THEMSELVES AS A CITY EMPLOYEE? DID THEY BEHAVE

[31:56] IN A VIOLENT MANNER? WAS THE EMPLOYEE ON WORK PROPERTY? DID THE EMPLOYEE DAMAGE TRUST OF THE EMPLOYER? DID THE EMPLOYEE

[32:06] DISRUPT CITY OPERATIONS? AND WHO IS THE APPROPRIATE APPOINTED AUTHORITY TO MAKE PERSONNEL DECISIONS? SO WITH THAT, I'D

[32:15] LIKE TO SHARE A FINAL THOUGHT. AS I MENTIONED, I DID A

[32:23] READ-THROUGH WITH COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE, CHAIR CHAVEZ, AND A FEW MEMBERS OF THE

[32:29] ADMINISTRATION. AND I SHARED THIS SIMILAR SENTIMENT, AND THAT IS THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY

[32:35] TO SEE THIS EVENT LIKE THE OFFICE OF AUDIT DOES THROUGH AN APOLITICAL LENS. I ENCOURAGE YOU

[32:41] TO DO SO. THE OFFICE OF AUDIT --

[32:47] THE OFFICE OF CITY AUDITORS WORK AS PROMULGATED BY CITY CHARTER

[32:53] AND STANDARDS IS IMPARTIAL, FACTUAL, OBJECTIVE, AND INTENDED TO HELP THE CITY BETTER ITS

[33:01] PROGRAMS AND PROCESSES. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO TAKE THESE FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS THAT COME FROM THIS REPORT AND

[33:07] THIS PRESENTATION TO COLLABORATIVELY IMPROVE PROCESSES TO HELP PREVENT

[33:13] SITUATIONS LIKE THIS IN THE FUTURE. AT THIS TIME, COMMUNITY

[33:22] SAFETY AUDITOR RYAN FRANSON AND I WILL STAND FOR QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION. NOW, IF COLLEAGUES

[33:30] CAN PLEASE GET ON QUEUE, I ASSUME WE'LL HAVE COMMENTS OR

[33:35] QUESTIONS OR A MIX OF BOTH. I DID WANT TO START OFF WITH A FEW COMMENTS AT LEAST. ONE, YOU ALL KNOW THAT I'M THE PROUD SON OF

[33:42] MEXICAN IMMIGRANTS. IT IS SOMETHING THAT I AM VERY PROUD OF. NO MATTER WHAT AT THE END OF

[33:48] THE DAY WHEN ICE IS IN OUR COMMUNITY, YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR ABOUT IT FROM US. THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT THE PRESENCE OF ICE

[33:55] POSES A DANGEROUS THREAT TO OUR COMMUNITY NO MATTER WHY THEY ARE THERE BECAUSE WE HAVE A FEDERAL

[34:00] ADMINISTRATION, THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, THAT TAKES PEOPLE AS COLLATERAL DAMAGE. THEY MAY BE GOING FOR DRUG

[34:06] TRAFFICKING, SEX TRAFFICKING, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF THEY SEE OUR UNDOCUMENTED

[34:11] COMMUNITY MEMBERS RIGHT THERE AS BYSTANDERS, THEY HAVE SHOWN THEY WILL TAKE THEM AS COLLATERAL DAMAGE. AND I THINK I WANT TO

[34:17] EMPHASIZE THAT TODAY BECAUSE IT IS IMPORTANT TO NAME. WHAT I HAVE SEEN AFTER JUNE 3RD, IT HAS

[34:24] BEEN A SANITIZATION THAT UNDOCUMENTED HAVE FACED IN THE CITY, AND IT PERPETUATES RACISM,

[34:31] QUITE FRANKLY. ON JUNE 3, 2025, OUR COMMUNITY IN SOUTH MINNEAPOLIS ON LAKE AND

[34:37] BLOOMINGTON EXPERIENCED TRAUMA, EXPERIENCED PAIN, AND ESCALATION

[34:43] OF OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. THE ESCALATION WAS FROM OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. THEY WERE SENDING A

[34:49] MESSAGE HERE TO THE COMMUNITY IN SOUTH MINNEAPOLIS. HAND TIES OUT IN THE PUBLIC. WHAT WERE THEY

[34:55] DOING WITH HAND TIES ON LAKE AND BLOOMINGTON? WE HAD FEDERAL AGENTS WITH FACE COVERINGS,

[35:03] ASSAULT WEAPONS, MILITARIZED LAW ENFORCEMENT WITH FACE COVERINGS. AND WHAT SEEMED TO BE THESE BIG

[35:10] ARMORED VEHICLES ON LAKE AND BLOOMINGTON. THIS WAS AN OPERATION CARRIED UNDER THE

[35:15] HOMELAND SECURITY TASK FORCE, AND TO BE CLEAR, INCLUDED ICE BEING PRESENT, AND MPD ON SITE.

[35:23] THIS HAPPENED IN A CORRIDOR THAT IS LARGELY ON A LARGE IMMIGRANT

[35:29] COMMUNITY. A LARGE DIVERSE COMMUNITY. AND I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR TO THE COMMUNITY HERE TODAY AND THAT IS LISTENING IN

[35:35] THE PUBLIC, IF WE AS A COMMUNITY DO NOT QUESTION FEDERAL AGENTS AND INSTEAD ALLOW THEM TO COME

[35:41] INTO OUR CITY THE WAY THAT THEY DID, WE ARE TELLING OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT ARE IMMIGRANT THAT THEY DO NOT

[35:47] MATTER AND THAT WE ARE NOT TAKING THEIR SAFETY SERIOUSLY. I ALSO WANT TO LEVEL SET ON THE

[35:52] REAL REASON THAT WE ARE HERE TODAY. THE GOAL WAS NEVER TO FIND OUT WHETHER THE CITY

[35:57] VIOLATED ITS SEPARATION ORDINANCE, WHICH TO BE CLEAR, ALLOWS FOR COLLABORATION WITH IMMIGRATION CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENT.

[36:03] IT'S NOT A STRONG ONE. IT'S PRETTY WEAK. BUT RATHER HOW THE CITY RESPONDED, WHY MPD WAS NEXT

[36:11] TO ICE AGENTS. WHICH I WILL REPEAT AGAIN, M.P.D. WAS NEXT TO ICE AGENTS AND WHY THE CITY

[36:17] BROKE THE TRUST WITH OUR IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY. AND WHY THE CITY WAS LEFT IN THE DARK DURING

[36:23] THIS OPERATION? THAT SHOULD BE TALKED ABOUT. IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT THE RAID WAS FOR BECAUSE WE

[36:28] KNOW THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS REALLY TO DISAPPEAR PEOPLE AS COLLATERAL DAMAGE POINT BLANK

[36:34] AND PERIOD. AS I SAID NOW AND AS I SAID THEN WHEN IT HAPPENED,

[36:40] THE CITY ORDINANCE DID NOT PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY. IT'S NOT A STRONG ORDINANCE. THE

[36:48] SEPARATION ORDINANCE FAILED. WE INTRODUCED A NOTICE OF INTENT. IT'S BEEN REFERRED TO COMMITTEE TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A STRONG

[36:54] SEPARATION ORDINANCE THAT SAYS THAT ICE IS NOT WELCOME IN OUR COMMUNITY. I ALSO WANT TO

[36:59] ACKNOWLEDGE TIMES THAT WE ARE LIVING IN AND THE FEAR THAT OUR COMMUNITY IS EXPERIENCING, MANY

[37:04] PEOPLE HAVE PRIVILEGE IN THE CITY. SOME PEOPLE WILL NEVER HAVE TO LEAVE SCHOOL WONDERING

[37:11] IF THEIR CHILDREN ARE THERE, OR CHILDREN HAVE TO GO HOME WONDERING IF THEIR PARENTS ARE

[37:16] GOING TO BE TAKEN BY ICE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE CALL THAT YOU'LL GET THAT YOUR

[37:23] PARENT HAS BEEN TAKEN FROM THE WORK SITE. THAT'S A PRIVILEGE I HAVE SEEN AND THE TALKING POINTS

[37:30] I HAVE SEEN SINCE JUNE 3RDRD. SANITIZING THAT ICE WAS IN OUR COMMUNITY, THAT THESE BROWN FOLKS NEED TO CALM DOWN AND

[37:37] PRETEND THAT WE SHOULDN'T CARE THAT ICE WAS IN OUR COMMUNITY. NO, WE CARE. THE MOMENT ICE IS

[37:43] IN OUR COMMUNITY, WE'RE GOING TO TELL OUR COMMUNITY THAT THEY ARE THERE. BECAUSE WE ARE NOT GOING TO ACCEPT COLLATERAL DAMAGE.

[37:48] WE'RE NOT GOING TO ACCEPT BYSTANDERS BEING TAKEN BY A

[37:54] ROGUE AGENCY. THE REPORT AFTER READING IT, IT TALKS ABOUT THE

[38:00] ICE AGENTS WERE PRESENT FOR THIS FEDERAL ACTION. I'M GOING TO REPEAT THAT. BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S

[38:06] QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. ICE AGENTS WERE PRESENT FOR THIS FEDERAL ACTION. ANYONE WHO SAYS THAT WE SHOULD NOT BE SPREADING

[38:13] AWARENESS THAT ICE WAS PRESENT IS COMPLICIT WITH THE OUT OF

[38:18] CONTROL TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. ANYONE WHO SAID ELECTED OFFICIAL SPREAD MISINFORMATION SHOULD

[38:24] RETRACT THEIR STATEMENTS. THIS PROVES THAT COMMENTS FROM FALSE.

[38:29] I WOULD ASK THE CHIEF TO RETRACT HIS STATEMENT AGAIN. --

[38:37] SANITIZED WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED IN OUR COMMUNITY. THE HIGHLY

[38:42] MILITARIZED FEDERAL ENFORCEMENT ACTION WITH POOR COMMUNICATION

[38:48] TO THE MAYOR, COUNCIL AND COMMUNITY WAS IRRESPONSIBLE, AND IT PERPETUATES SYSTEMIC RACISM

[38:57] OF WHO MATTERS AND WHO DOES NOT. CITY COUNCIL WAS NOTIFIED THROUGH OFFICIAL CHANNELS AT

[39:03] 1:50 P.M., NEARLY FOUR HOURS AFTER THE CHIEF WAS NOTIFIED, AND THREE HOURS AFTER THE MAYOR WAS NOTIFIED. SHOULD THE PUBLIC

[39:09] HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT INFORMATION IN A TIMELY MANNER, THE SITUATION WOULD HAVE UNFOLDED

[39:15] DIFFERENTLY. WOULD YOU AND TO THE PUBLIC WANT TO KNOW THAT YOUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE

[39:22] OFFICIALLY NOTIFIED THAT MUCH TIME LATER. I DON'T THINK YOU WOULD. THE REPORT EVEN SAYS THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE LEFT WITH A

[39:28] VOID OF INFORMATION AND AN URGENCY TO RESPOND TO CONSTITUENT CONCERNS. EMAILS BETWEEN CONSTITUENTS AND COUNCIL

[39:34] MEMBERS WHO WERE ON THE SCENE SHOWED THROUGHOUT SUPPORT AND GRATITUDE FOR THEIR PRESENCE. MANY OF US SHOWED UP ON SCENE

[39:40] HEARING THE STORIES OF OUR CONSTITUENTS AFTER RECEIVING CALLS, EMAILS, YOU NAME IT.

[39:46] BECAUSE THEY WANTED US TO SEE FIRSTHAND HOW OUR CONSTITUENTS WERE TREATED. AND IF IT WASN'T

[39:52] FOR MANY OF US SHOWING UP, FOLKS WOULD HAVE NEVER KNOWN THAT ICE WAS PRESENT IN OUR COMMUNITY,

[39:58] AND THAT PRESENCE WOULD HAVE BEEN SANITIZED TO BE VERY CLEAR. WE NOW KNOW THAT THE CITY OF

[40:04] MINNEAPOLIS WAS FIRST MADE AWARE OF THIS ACTION AT 9:57 A.M. ON JUNE 3RD. HOMELAND SECURITY

[40:13] INVESTIGATIONS WAS CITED AND THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN TO BE VERY CLEAR AN IMMEDIATE RED FLAG AND

[40:18] REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY, COUNCIL MEMBERS, IMMIGRATION JUSTICE ADVOCATES. I PROUDLY

[40:24] REPRESENT THE 9TH WARD. I PROUDLY REPRESENT LAKE AND BLOOMINGTON. IT IS HOME TO A

[40:29] LARGE IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY AND THE FACT THAT THERE WAS NO COMMUNICATION AFTER KNOWING ABOUT THIS BEFORE 10 A.M. IS

[40:35] ALARMING TO BE VERY CLEAR. WHY IS IT THAT WE DON'T FIND FORMAL

[40:41] COMMUNICATION UNTIL AFTER 1 P.M.? THAT'S IRRESPONSIBLE. WE

[40:46] SHOULD NEVER LEAVE PEOPLE IN THE DARK. AND THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. AND I HOPE THAT'S

[40:52] WHAT WE CAN ADDRESS IN THE SEPARATION ORDINANCE. AND I WANT TO READ A QUOTE FROM THE REPORT ABOUT AN OFFICER THAT SAID, "I

[40:58] WAS CALLED TO ASSIST AT BLOOMINGTON AND LAKE WITH A FEDERAL SEARCH WARRANT. I WAS

[41:04] AWARE OF THE WARRANT AT ABOUT 10 A.M. AND THAT FEDERAL AGENTS WERE IN THE AREA. WHICH I NEED

[41:09] TO GET MORE CLARIFICATION ON THAT, SO MAYBE THAT CAN GET ANSWERED LATER. BECAUSE THAT'S

[41:14] CONFUSING BASED ON WHAT THE CHIEF SAID, WHICH WAS REQUESTED -- HE SAID THAT THERE

[41:20] WAS A REQUEST TO RESPOND MORE THAN AFTER -- MORE THAN THE HOUR

[41:25] AFTER BEGAN TO ASSIST CROWD CONTROL DEESCALATION. WHICH IS CONFUSING BECAUSE SOMEONE FOUND

[41:31] OUT I GUESS BEFORE THE CROWD FORMED. THE PUBLIC STATEMENTS AREN'T ADDING UP. SO I NEED

[41:38] CLARIFICATION ON THAT. AND I'LL FINISH IT WITH THIS. WE'VE ALWAYS HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO AMEND THE SEPARATION ORDINANCE

[41:43] BEFORE JUNE 3RDRDRDRD. UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN COMMUNITY MEMBERS BROUGHT THIS TO MY

[41:49] ATTENTION BEFORE JUNE 3RD ABOUT THE NEED TO STRENGTHEN OUR SEPARATION ORDINANCE, I MET WITH

[41:55] OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND THE MAYOR, AND I WAS MET WITH PUSHBACK. I HOPE AS A RESULT OF

[42:02] THIS AFTER ACTION REVIEW THERE ISN'T PUSHBACK TO MAKE OUR SEPARATION ORDINANCE STRONGER TO

[42:08] PROTECT OUR IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS, AND MAKE SURE THERE'S ACCOUNTABLE

[42:13] FOLLOWING THROUGH. I BELIEVE WE CAN WORK TOGETHER, CHANGE COURSE ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO. I WANT

[42:24] TO MAKE CLEAR, THE SEPARATION ORDINANCE IS NOT STRONG ENOUGH. IT ALLOWS FOR COLLABORATION WITH

[42:30] ICE. IT CONTINUES TO PERPETUATE CITY COUNCIL BEING IN THE DARK,

[42:36] WHICH IS NOT HOW YOU CREATE MEANINGFUL CHANGE. I'LL HAVE QUESTIONS AFTER. BUT I WANT TO

[42:42] MAKE SURE MY COLLEAGUES HAVE TIME TO SPEAK. I'LL PASS IT OFF TO COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN.

[42:47] >> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHAVEZ FOR ALL OF YOUR SPOT ON COMMENTS AND ALSO FOR BEING THERE THAT DAY. I KNOW IT BUILDS A LOT OF TRUST IN

[42:55] COMMUNITY FOR THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND COUNCIL STAFF AND OTHER COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO WERE THERE THAT DAY TO REALLY PUT

[43:01] THEIR BODIES ON THE LINE TO PROTECT OUR IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY. THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO WAS

[43:07] THERE TO STAND UP FOR MINNEAPOLIS VALUES. I HAVE A FEW COMMENTS FOR AUDITOR TIMMERMAN

[43:13] BECAUSE I AM VERY CONCERNED READING THIS THAT NO COUNCIL MEMBER WAS INCLUDED IN THE INITIAL INFORMATION CHANNELS.

[43:19] AND THAT COUNCIL WAS NOT NOTIFIED UNTIL 1:50, NEARLY FOUR HOURS AFTER THE CHIEF, AND THREE

[43:25] HOURS AFTER THE MAYOR. AFTER THIS, WE DID HAVE A NIMS

[43:30] TRAINING WITH EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT AND LEARNED ABOUT THE JOINT

[43:36] INFORMATION PROCESS. SO I'M WONDERING ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE MAC, WHICH IS THE

[43:42] MULTI-AGENCY COORDINATION, AND A JIC IN TERMS OF THE AUTHORITY TO

[43:48] ESTABLISH ONE. WHO DECIDES WHEN A MAC IS ESTABLISHED, WHEN A JIC IS ESTABLISHED AND THE

[43:54] PARTICIPATING DEPARTMENTS. AS YOU SEE CLEARLY IN THIS, IT HAS SEVEN DEPARTMENTS LISTED AND NOT

[44:00] A SINGLE ONE OF THOSE IS THE CITY COUNCIL. WE ALL HAVE 5,000

[44:06] SUBSCRIPTIONS ON EACH OF OUR NEWSLETTERS ALONE. IT'S THE BEST WAY TO COMMUNICATE WITH CITY

[44:11] RESIDENTS IS THROUGH CITY COUNCIL WHO ARE ELECTED TO SERVE A SMALLER UNIT OF THE CITY FOR THAT PURPOSE. SO DID YOU IN YOUR

[44:20] REVIEW COMPARE A MAC AND A JIC PROCESS IN TERMS OF WHO IS ON IT AND THEIR AUTHORITY TO BE

[44:27] ESTABLISHED? >> CHAIR CHAVEZ, COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN, THE PRESENTATION THAT

[44:34] YOU RECEIVED FROM DIRECTOR SAYER FROM EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, I DID

[44:40] MEET WITH HER. SHE PROVIDED ME A SIMILAR WALK-THROUGH OF THE

[44:45] SLIDES IN THE PRESENTATION. UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T HAVE THE

[44:50] EXPERTISE IN THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN MAC AND JIC. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT MAC IS

[44:57] WHEN THERE ARE MULTIPLE AGENCIES OUTSIDE JUST THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. BUT BOTH ARE

[45:04] INTENDED TO PULL DECISION MAKERS TOGETHER. AND BOTH FROM WHAT

[45:10] I'VE SEEN IN THIS REVIEW, LACK A MECHANISM FOR INFORMING AND

[45:17] COMMUNICATING WITH THE COUNCIL. >> OKAY. THANKS FOR ECHOING WHAT I'M SEEING TO BE TRUE IN BOTH

[45:24] PROCESSES AS WELL. I THINK THE CITY COUNCIL NEEDS TO BE INVOLVED IN DECISION-MAKING. AND

[45:29] I THINK IT'S UNDEMOCRATIC FOR THE ADMINISTRATION TO BE LEAVING

[45:35] US IN THE DARK. AND SO I HOPE THAT THAT'S CHANGED GOING FORWARD WITH BOTH THE MAC AND

[45:42] THE JIC. I'LL MAKE THAT COMMENT TO DIRECTOR SAYER AS WELL.

[45:47] ANOTHER QUESTION I HAD FOR YOU WAS SOMETHING I HEARD FROM RESIDENTS WHO WERE THERE THAT

[45:52] DAY WAS WHETHER MPD OFFICERS WERE COVERING THEIR BADGES.

[46:00] ( ALARM BLARING )

[46:15] >> YOU MAY PROCEED, COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN.

[46:21] >> YEAH. THAT'S THE QUESTION I HAD IF ANY MPD OFFICERS HAD COVERED THEIR BADGES THAT DAY.

[46:27] >> I DIDN'T SEE ANY EVIDENCE OF THAT. I KNOW THAT RYAN LOOKED AT

[46:33] THE BODY WORN CAMERA AND WOULD HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING. >> SURE. CHAIR CHAVEZ, COUNCIL

[46:41] MEMBER CASHMAN, I DID REVIEW A LOT OF BOTH STILL IMAGES AND BODY WORN CAMERA VIDEO FROM THAT

[46:48] DAY. OVER THE COURSE OF THAT REVIEW, I DIDN'T SEE ANY INSTANCES OF MINNEAPOLIS POLICE

[46:54] OFFICERS COVERING BADGES OR I DIDN'T SEE THAT IN ANY IMAGES. I

[47:00] THINK THAT IT'S OF COURSE A VALID CONCERN. IT'S BEEN AN ISSUE IN THE PAST. I ALSO HEARD

[47:06] A NUMBER OF TIMES WHERE SOMEONE WAS ASKING AN OFFICER FOR THEIR BADGE NUMBER AND THEY DID PROVIDE IT TO PEOPLE. SO IT'S

[47:15] SOMETHING THAT WE DIDN'T SEE OVER THE COURSE OF THE REVIEW BUT IT IS DIFFICULT TO VERIFY

[47:22] WITHOUT ANY AMOUNT OF DOUBT. BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT GOING ON THAT DAY. I DO THINK THAT THERE

[47:29] COULD BE QUITE A BIT OF CONFUSION. I THINK ONE OF THE

[47:34] MORE CONCERNING ELEMENTS OF THE ACTION IN GENERAL WERE THE

[47:41] VARIATIONS OF UNIFORMS, FACE COVERINGS, NON-FACE COVERINGS, BADGES, PATCHES, THOSE KINDS OF

[47:47] THINGS. I THINK THAT CAN LEAD TO A LOT OF CONFUSION ABOUT WHO MIGHT BE WHO. BUT AGAIN, IT WAS NOT SOMETHING WE SAW DIRECTLY.

[47:54] >> OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHAIR. >> I BELIEVE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN WAS ON QUEUE AND SOMEHOW

[48:00] JUMPED OFF. >> YES. WELL THANK YOU, CHAIR CHAVEZ. YOU KNOW, AS AN

[48:09] IMMIGRANT COUNCIL MEMBER WHO, YOU KNOW, EVERY DAY HEAR ABOUT

[48:15] PEOPLE BEING SNATCHED FROM THE COURT APPOINTMENTS AND FROM THE

[48:20] COMMUNITY. WHAT HAPPENED ON JUNE 3RD WAS VERY HARMFUL. IT WAS CONFUSING. AND I THINK WHAT

[48:29] COUNCIL MEMBER JASON CHAVEZ MENTIONED WAS THAT THE COMMUNITY THAT LIVE HERE LIVE HERE EVERY

[48:36] DAY, OBVIOUSLY. FEDERAL AGENCY SHOWS UP WITH MILITARY GEAR IN A

[48:44] VERY DIVERSE NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOU KNOW, THROWING PEOPLE ON THE GROUND AND HAVING MACHINE GUNS AND SO ON. SO PEOPLE ARE

[48:50] FEARFUL. BUT JUST COMING BACK TO THE AUDIT AND THE RESPONSE. AND

[48:57] I'M GLAD IT'S VERY CLEAR, AND I REALLY WANT TO MENTION THAT I'M GLAD THE CITY DID NOT VIOLATE

[49:04] THE SEPARATION ORDINANCE. OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT POLICE OFFICERS DID NOT VIOLATE ANY OF THE CITY

[49:09] POLICIES THAT WE HAVE. AND I REALLY WANT TO, YOU KNOW,

[49:17] MENTION THAT THE CHIEF CONTINUE TO TELL FOLKS THAT PUT OUT A

[49:25] STATEMENT ABOUT HOW MPD WILL

[49:31] CONTINUE TO FOLLOW THE ORDINANCE, AND HOW THEY WILL NOT WORK WITH ICE. I RECEIVED THAT

[49:41] FROM HIM MANY TIMES. HE PUT OUT

[49:46] A STATEMENT MANY TIMES. AND HE WAS OUT THERE CALMING FOLKS DOWN AND CONTINUING TO COMMUNICATE.

[49:51] SO IT'S REALLY, YOU KNOW, I'M GLAD THAT THE CHIEF CAME OUT AND

[49:56] SAY THAT, AND HIS OFFICERS AND

[50:02] MPD DID NOT VIOLATE THOSE, YOU KNOW, ANY VIOLATION WHEN IT

[50:08] COMES TO THEY DID NOT ASSIST ICE. IT'S GREAT TO HEAR THAT.

[50:15] THAT ASSURES ME, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF CONCERN THAT I HAD. I JUST WANT TO MENTION THAT, YOU KNOW,

[50:23] IT'S A GREAT THING FOR ME TO HEAR THAT MPD DID NOT VIOLATE.

[50:29] CHIEF CONTINUE TO COMMUNICATE WITH US, COMMUNICATE WITH THE

[50:37] CITY OF THE IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY THAT HE WILL NOT ASSIST ICE. AND THAT IS TRUE. I DO WANT TO SAY

[50:49] THAT THE ORDINANCE IS REALLY NOT PROTECTING WHO NEEDS TO BE PROTECTED. EVEN THIS MORNING I

[50:57] HAD AN INDIVIDUAL WHO WAS AT APPOINTMENT SAYING THAT, HEY, I HAVE AN IMMIGRATION APPOINTMENT,

[51:03] SHOULD I GO? AND I WAS LIKE, I'M NOT A LAWYER. BUT MOST PEOPLE ARE NOT COMING BACK. AND THAT IS

[51:09] THE FEAR OF THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY WERE FACING. SO IT'S

[51:15] OBVIOUS THAT AS A COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO REPRESENT THE COMMUNITY, WHO SPEAK THE LANGUAGE, WHO THE COMMUNITY

[51:20] TRUSTS, WE SHOULD BE ABLE GETTING COMMUNICATION. WE SHOULD BE ABLE, ESPECIALLY COUNCIL

[51:26] MEMBER JASON CHAVEZ SHOULD HAVE GOT THE FIRST CALL WHEN THE MAYOR TEAM WERE GATHERING AND

[51:31] PUTTING THAT INFORMATION TOGETHER AND JUST COMMUNICATING WITH THAT BECAUSE HE IS THE

[51:37] VOICE. HE'S THE FIRST ONE THEY HEAR FROM. WE ARE THE FIRST ONES OUR RESIDENTS HEAR FROM. THAT

[51:44] KIND OF CONDITION, THAT KIND OF SITUATION, IT'S VERY

[51:51] DISAPPOINTING TO SEE ADMINISTRATION DID NOT -- FAILED. THAT LEADERSHIP DID NOT

[51:58] LET US KNOW NEARLY FOUR HOURS LATER. I'LL TELL YOU THIS, WE

[52:04] HAVE LEARNED THROUGH THE 2020 CIVIL UNREST, A LOT OF MISINFORMATION IS OUT THERE. WHO DO YOU TRUST? AND THAT IS WHEN

[52:11] WE TRUST OUR LEADERS TO COMMUNICATE AS EFFECTIVELY WITH US TO LET US KNOW WHAT'S

[52:17] HAPPENING. BUT I'M REALLY GLAD THIS REPORT CLEARLY STATES THE

[52:22] CITY DID NOT VIOLATE ANY LAW, ANY OF OUR POLICIES. AND I'M

[52:29] GLAD TO HEAR THAT AND PROPS TO THE CHIEF AND HIS TEAM. THANK YOU. >> NEXT. THANK YOU. NEXT UP WE

[52:36] HAVE VICE CHAIR CHOWDHURY. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHAVEZ. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO

[52:42] ACKNOWLEDGE THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY WHO ARE IN OUR CHAMBER TODAY, AND FOR THOSE THAT ARE

[52:47] FOLLOWING ALONG ONLINE. OUR CHAMBERS ARE PACKED. THERE ARE

[52:52] MANY INDIVIDUALS FROM OUR COMMUNITY IN THE OVERFLOW, WHICH SHOWCASES HOW IMPORTANT THE ISSUE OF PROTECTING OUR

[53:00] IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY AND TAKING CARE OF OUR NEIGHBORS AND ENSURING THAT THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS IS RESILIENT. LIKE

[53:06] HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR CARING. THANK YOU SO MUCH

[53:12] FOR ALL OF THE OUTREACH THAT YOU HAVE DONE. TO MY COUNCIL OFFICE,

[53:17] TO OTHERS ON JUNE 3RD, AND EVERY DAY BEFORE AND EVERY DAY AFTER,

[53:22] IT REALLY DOES MATTER. OUR JOB IS TO REPRESENT OUR CONSTITUENTS, AND TAKE THE NEEDS OF OUR CONSTITUENTS, THE

[53:29] CONCERNS OF OUR CONSTITUENTS, AND WORK TOWARDS MAKING SURE THAT IT'S REFLECTIVE IN THE

[53:35] LEGISLATION THAT WE CREATE, THE BUDGETS THAT WE MAKE DETERMINATIONS FOR, AND THE

[53:41] OVERSIGHT WORK THAT WE DO. AND THAT'S WHY WE FELT REALLY IMPORTANT TO REQUEST THAT THIS

[53:47] AFTER ACTION REVIEW. WE BELIEVE THAT OUR COMMUNITY DESERVES TO SEE WHAT HAPPENED TRANSPARENTLY,

[53:54] AND DESERVES ACCOUNTABILITY AND THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS CLEARLY THROUGH THIS AFTER ACTION REVIEW

[54:00] HAS SOME MAJOR GAPS IN TERMS OF BEING RESILIENT WHEN IT COMES TO

[54:06] INCREASINGLY HOSTILE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. WHAT HAPPENED ON

[54:13] JUNE 3RD I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ DID A GREAT JOB OF SHARING HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO

[54:19] NOT SANITIZE WHAT HAPPENED. AND SO IN THE SPIRIT OF THAT, I

[54:24] THINK IT'S REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT TO CONTINUE TO SHARE

[54:30] THAT ON A DENSELY IMMIGRANT CORRIDOR ON LAKE STREET, WE SAW

[54:39] ARMORED VEHICLES, HEAVILY MILITARIZED FEDERAL AGENTS, ICE,

[54:48] HSI. WE SAW INDIVIDUALS WITH LARGE WEAPONS. AND FOR US IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS, THAT IS

[54:54] DEEPLY TRAUMATIZING BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH THAT EXPERIENCE BEFORE. AND DEEPLY

[55:00] TRAUMATIZING FOR IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY. AND AS A COUNCIL

[55:09] MEMBER, KIND OF JUST EXPERIENCING THAT DAY AND GETTING CALLS FROM MY CONS

[55:16] CONST CONSTITUENTS, HEARING FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ, SEEING EVERYTHING TRANSPIRE ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND NOT HAVING ANY

[55:22] COMMUNICATION FROM THE CITY ADMINISTRATION WAS DEEPLY DISAPPOINTING AND CONCERNING.

[55:28] BUT UNFORTUNATELY, REALLY UNFORTUNATELY, NOT SURPRISING TO ME. AND THAT'S A LARGER

[55:35] CONVERSATION OUTSIDE OF THIS AFTER ACTION REVIEW. BUT MY EXPERIENCE ROUTINELY HAS BEEN

[55:43] THAT AS A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER I AM NOT BROUGHT IN ON INFORMATION THAT IS REALLY CRITICAL FOR ME

[55:48] TO KNOW AND COMMUNICATE OUT TO MY RESIDENTS, AND ALSO HAVE A PLACE WHERE I CAN COMMUNICATE

[55:54] IMPORTANT INFORMATION BACK INTO THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. FOUR

[56:00] HOURS IS FAR TOO LONG. VOID OF INFORMATION, THAT'S ABSOLUTE --

[56:08] THAT HITS THE NAIL ON THE HEAD FOR WHAT IT FELT LIKE IN THE

[56:14] MOMENT. ONE THING WITH THIS AFTER ACTION REVIEW THAT I WANT TO UPLIFT, IT WASN'T JUST FOUR

[56:20] HOURS LATER, IT WAS AFTER THE FEDERAL RAID HAD CONCLUDED THAT

[56:25] COUNCIL MEMBERS GOT ANY INFORMATION. HOWEVER, OFFICIAL

[56:34] CHANNELS PRIORITIZE DIFFERENT COMMUNICATIONS OUTWARDLY TO KIND OF SAY THAT THIS ISN'T AN

[56:40] IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT, THIS IS A FEDERAL RAID BUT NO COMMUNICATION INTERNALLY TO THE

[56:46] CITY COUNCIL. AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I'M HOPING TO ASK TO CITY AUDITOR TIMMERMAN IS

[57:00] WHAT TIME DID THE MAYOR'S OFFICE PULL TOGETHER THE SITUATION

[57:06] ROOM, AND THEN WHEN WAS THE MULTI-AGENCY COORDINATION TEAM PULLED TOGETHER, AND WHAT IS THE

[57:14] MULTI-AGENCY COORDINATION TEAM FOR OR WHAT WAS IT USED FOR IN THAT CASE?

[57:19] >> SURE, I'M HAVING RYAN GRAB ME A TIMELINE HERE. >> OKAY. GREAT.

[57:26] >> ALL RIGHT. CHAIR CHAVEZ, COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY, AS FAR

[57:32] AS TIMING, AND LIKE I SAID, I UNFORTUNATELY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION ON THE

[57:38] DISTINCTION BETWEEN MAC AND JIC AND WHO GOES TO WHAT. MY

[57:43] UNDERSTANDING IN THIS SITUATION IS THAT THIS WAS NOT A FULL MAC.

[57:50] IT WAS PULLING LEADERS, CITY LEADERS TOGETHER TO COME UP WITH A COMMUNICATION PLAN BASED ON

[57:57] PROCESS THAT THEY'RE FAMILIAR WITH. SO THE MAYOR WAS INFORMED

[58:04] AT 10:45. AT 11:00, THE SENIOR

[58:10] TEAM WHICH -- RYAN, DO YOU HAVE INSIGHT ON WHO WAS INVOLVED ON THAT 11:00 CONVERSATION?

[58:16] >> I DON'T HAVE IT HERE. >> OKAY. WE DO HAVE THE INFORMATION. SO IF IT'S

[58:21] SOMETHING WE CAN FOLLOW UP ON WHO WAS WHERE WHEN, WE'D BE HAPPY TO DO THAT. KEEP IN MIND,

[58:28] SOME INFORMATION IN THIS REPORT AND IN OUR REVIEW WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF CONTINUING

[58:35] CONFIDENTIALITY. DEPENDING ON WHAT THE QUESTIONS ARE, WE MAY RUN THROUGH TO MAKE SURE THAT'S

[58:40] PERMISSIBLE TO RELEASE. WITH THAT SAID, WELL BEFORE I MOVE ON, WE WANT TO RELEASE EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN. OUR GOAL

[58:47] IS TO BE AS TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE. SO AT 11:00, THE MAYOR

[58:53] GOT TOGETHER WITH HIS SENIOR TEAM. THEY HAD A DISCUSSION. AND DURING THAT HOUR, THEY LEARNED

[58:58] THAT THIS WAS NOT A FEDERAL IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT ACTION.

[59:06] SO LATER, AFTER THE ESCALATION

[59:11] OCCURRED, IT WAS AT 12:51, SO ALMOST TWO HOURS LATER THAT'S

[59:17] WHEN THE REQUEST CAME TO STAND UP MAC. AGAIN, I LEARNED THAT

[59:25] MAC MAYBE WASN'T THE STANDARD IN THIS CASE. BUT WITH WHAT WAS

[59:31] HAPPENING WITH THE UNKNOWNS I THINK WHAT WE OBSERVED AT LEAST WAS THAT THERE WAS A STRUCTURE

[59:38] OF HOW TO PULL PEOPLE TOGETHER AND COMMUNICATE, AND THAT'S WHAT

[59:43] WAS DONE AT 12:51. AT BOTH OF

[59:49] THOSE, IT SEEMS THAT A LARGE FOCUS WAS ON COMMUNICATION. AND

[59:56] THAT'S WHY IN THE REPORT WE DO SAY THAT IT'S QUITE CURIOUS THAT COUNCIL WAS NOT INCLUDED IN

[1:00:02] THAT. I WILL SHARE WITH YOU THAT IN MY READ-THROUGH WITH CITY

[1:00:10] ADMINISTRATION, THEY RECOGNIZED, THEY SAID TO ME THAT THEY

[1:00:15] RECOGNIZED THAT THERE'S A PLACE IN THAT TIMELINE WHERE IT WOULD

[1:00:21] BE APPROPRIATE TO COMMUNICATE WITH COUNCIL. AND SO ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ON THOSE DETAILS MAY

[1:00:27] BE BEST ANSWERED BY THEM. >> THANK YOU. AND JUST KIND OF FOLLOWING UP ON THAT. IN THE

[1:00:34] REPORT IT SAYS THE MAC IS A GROUP CONSISTING OF SEVERAL CITY

[1:00:40] DEPARTMENTS COLLABORATING ON HOW BEST TO MOVE FORWARD IN THE EVENT INTERNALLY AND TO THE

[1:00:46] PUBLIC. IT LISTS SEVEN STAKEHOLDERS. AND JUST LIKE YOU SAID IN YOUR REPORT, IT SHARES

[1:00:53] CURIOUSLY NO MEMBER OF CITY COUNCIL WAS INCLUDED IN THE INFORMATION CHANNELS. COULD YOU SHARE WHAT IS A RISK TO THE CITY

[1:01:00] AND NOT INCLUDING THE CITY COUNCIL IN THESE COMMUNICATIONS

[1:01:05] IN AN EMERGENCY OF THIS NATURE? >> ABSOLUTELY. CHAIR CHAVEZ,

[1:01:11] COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION BECAUSE THAT'S AUDIT'S ROLE IS TO CONSIDER

[1:01:19] RISK, TO COMMUNICATE RISK TO YOU, TO OTHERS WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION. IN THIS CASE, IT

[1:01:26] WAS A RISK THAT CAME TO FRUITION AND THAT IS THAT VOID OF INFORMATION THAT WE TALKED

[1:01:31] ABOUT. WITH THE VOID OF INFORMATION, THERE'S GOING TO BE

[1:01:37] SPECULATIVE COMMUNICATION, SPECULATIVE BEHAVIOR. AND AS WE

[1:01:42] NOTED, WE HOLD PLACE FOR VIEWPOINTS IN MANY DIFFERENT

[1:01:50] ANGLES BECAUSE PEOPLE WITH ICE BADGES WERE SEEN. PEOPLE WITH

[1:01:56] DHS PATCHES WERE SEEN. SO THE VOID OF INFORMATION IN THIS CASE

[1:02:03] CREATED A RISK WHERE MISINFORMATION OR DISINFORMATION IS SPREAD. AND I WANT TO BE VERY

[1:02:08] CAREFUL, BECAUSE AS I SAID, THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN HERE. THERE WAS NOT MISINFORMATION. WHAT WAS

[1:02:16] SHARED WAS THAT ICE IS ON LAKE AND BLOOMINGTON, AND THAT IS A

[1:02:21] FACTUAL STATEMENT. AND AGAIN, IN THE OBJECTIVITY OF OUR OFFICE, WE SHARE WHAT THAT FACTUAL

[1:02:27] STATEMENT IS. NOT WHAT EMOTIONS ARE BEHIND THAT. SO IN THE

[1:02:38] FUTURE, I COULD SEE SITUATIONS BECOMING MUCH MORE UNTENABLE,

[1:02:46] BECOMING MUCH MORE DANGEROUS THAN WHAT OCCURRED ON JUNE 3RD.

[1:02:51] AND QUITE FRANKLY, FROM MY

[1:02:57] PERSPECTIVE, IT WAS AN UNFORTUNATE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO BETTER PREPARE FOR

[1:03:02] ACTIONS LIKE WE'VE SEEN IN OTHER CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY. >> THANK YOU. I REALLY

[1:03:09] APPRECIATE IT. I'M JUST GOING TO CLOSE MY PART OF THIS COMMENTS FOR NOW. I'LL COME BACK INTO QUEUE LATER. THAT THE SITUATION

[1:03:20] DID NOT HAPPEN IN A VACUUM. ON MAY 31ST, TOP ICE OFFICIAL SENT

[1:03:27] OUT INSTRUCTIONS TO OFFICERS ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO INCREASE APPREHENSIONS, TO GET CREATIVE,

[1:03:34] TO TURN THE KNOB TO 11, AND INSTRUCTED OFFICIALS TO GO AFTER

[1:03:39] PEOPLE THEY MAY COINCIDENTALLY ENCOUNTER, WHICH IS TERMED AS COLLATERALS. FOLLOWING THE DAY

[1:03:49] AFTER JUNE 3RD, JUNE 4TH, IT WAS REPORTED THAT A RECORD WAS SET BY ICE FOR THE HIGHEST AMOUNTS

[1:03:56] OF ARRESTS IN A SINGLE DAY IN THE STATE -- IN THE UNITED

[1:04:02] STATES. THAT IS ABSOLUTELY STRIKING. AND THAT IS SOMETHING

[1:04:11] THAT I HOPE WE CONTINUE TO BRING

[1:04:17] FORWARD AND UPLIFT BECAUSE THIS ADMINISTRATION AND THE WAY THAT ICE OPERATES IS NOT GOING TO

[1:04:22] OPERATE IN A GOOD FAITH FASHION WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO TELL THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS, HEY, WE'RE DOING AN IMMIGRATION RAID TODAY.

[1:04:29] IF HSI, IF ICE, IF ANY FEDERAL AGENCIES ARE ON THE GROUND WITH

[1:04:37] CLEAR INSTRUCTIONS TO DO COLLATERAL ARRESTS, THE RISK IS THERE, AND THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS QUITE FRANKLY IS NOT

[1:04:42] PREPARED FOR IT. AND

[1:04:49] UNFORTUNATELY, THIS VOID OF COMMUNICATION, I WOULD NAME AS A RISK, CREATED A RISK FOR OUR

[1:04:56] CONSTITUENTS BECAUSE WE WERE NOT ABLE TO ADEQUATELY SHARE OUT WHAT WAS HAPPENING. AND I'M

[1:05:01] GRATEFUL TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WERE OUT THERE. I'M GRATEFUL TO THE NEIGHBORS WHO DOCUMENTED AND SHARED

[1:05:06] INFORMATION. AND I'LL JUST SAY,

[1:05:12] LIKE, THE ROLE OF A COUNCIL MEMBER IN MOMENTS OF EMERGENCY IS TO BE A LIAISON TO THE

[1:05:18] COMMUNITY. WE ARE CHARGED WITH REPRESENTING ABOUT 34,000 TO 40,000 PEOPLE. IT IS OUR JOB IN

[1:05:26] AN EMERGENCY TO COMMUNITY WITH OUR CONSTITUENTS AND COMMUNICATE WHAT OUR CONSTITUENTS ARE SEEING

[1:05:32] BACK TO THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS SO WE ARE RESILIENT IN THESE MOMENTS. >> THANK YOU. NEXT UP WE HAVE

[1:05:38] COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHAVEZ. THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION. I THINK WE ARE ALL CONCERNED ON

[1:05:46] THIS COUNCIL, AND IN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, ABOUT HOW WE MOVE FORWARD. THAT'S WHY I WAS HAPPY

[1:05:53] TO VOTE FOR US TO HAVE THIS AFTER ACTION REPORT. BUT I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS AND SOME

[1:05:59] COMMENTS. THE FIRST THING IS I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT I DON'T THINK ANYONE SAID ICE

[1:06:04] WASN'T PRESENT. I THINK AFTER BEING NOTIFIED THAT ICE WAS THERE, WE ALL THOUGHT THAT. BUT

[1:06:11] I ALSO THINK GETTING VERIFIED INFORMATION TAKES TIME. IT'S IN THE -- NOT A QUICK THING. I HAD

[1:06:20] SOMEONE REACH OUT TO ME FROM MY WARD WHO WAS CONCERNED. AND I SAID LET ME CALL YOU BACK LATER. I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

[1:06:26] IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME. WHEN I WENT ON SOCIAL MEDIA TO SEE WHAT WAS HAPPENING, I DID

[1:06:31] SEE COUNCIL MEMBERS THERE, AND I THOUGHT, OKAY, WE HAD A COMMITTEE THAT DAY SO I THOUGHT

[1:06:36] OKAY I'LL LEARN ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING FROM OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS. IT TOOK A WHILE TO LEARN WHAT WAS GOING ON. AND IT

[1:06:44] WAS COMMUNICATION WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS HOW I LEARNED THE

[1:06:52] SPECIFICS OF THINGS. SO IT REALLY DOES TAKE TIME SOMETIMES TO GET VERIFIED INFORMATION. AND

[1:06:59] YOU KNOW, A WAY OF COMMUNICATING OUT TO PEOPLE. SO I'M A LITTLE

[1:07:05] CONFUSED ABOUT THE COMMENTS AROUND NOT GETTING INFORMATION, BUT BEING ON THE SCENE AND LIKE

[1:07:11] IN REAL TIME AND HAVING IT THERE. SO IF YOU'RE THERE, YOU CAN COMMUNICATE WITH YOUR

[1:07:18] COLLEAGUES ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING VERSUS THE MAYOR WHO WAS IN A MEETING OR WHOMEVER WAS WITH THE MAYOR IN A MEETING

[1:07:25] LEARNING FROM OTHER AGENCIES ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON. I REALLY WOULD HOPE THAT THAT WOULD GET BETTER TOO. THAT COUNCIL

[1:07:30] MEMBERS, IF THEY'RE AT THE SCENE OF SOMETHING, WOULD COMMUNICATE BETTER WITH OTHER COUNCIL

[1:07:36] MEMBERS ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON. THAT'S A PIECE I FEEL LIKE IS MISSING TOO. THERE ARE PEOPLE

[1:07:41] SAYING THEY WERE ON THE SCENE, THEY WERE THERE IN REAL TIME AS TO WHAT WAS HAPPENING. AS A

[1:07:47] COUNCIL COLLEAGUE, I DIDN'T HEAR FROM THEM WHAT WAS GOING ON REAL TIME ON THE SCENE. ONE OF MY

[1:07:53] QUESTIONS IS ABOUT THE SEPARATION ORDINANCE. THANK YOU AUDITOR TIMMERMAN. EVEN THE WORK

[1:08:00] WE'RE GOING TO DO TO STRENGTHEN THAT, THAT WON'T STOP AGENCIES FROM COMING IN TO MINNEAPOLIS

[1:08:07] AND DOING WHATEVER, CORRECT? >> CORRECT. >> SO LIKE, I AGREE THAT IT'S

[1:08:12] THE WORK OF US TO MAKE SURE THIS IS STRONG. BUT IT'S STILL NOT GOING TO STOP THIS TYPE OF BEHAVIOR FROM HAPPENING.

[1:08:21] >> CHAIR CHAVEZ, COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW, YOU ARE CORRECT. THE CITY

[1:08:28] KIND OF ONLY SET EXPECTATIONS FOR ITS OWN OPERATIONS, ITS OWN STAFF. IN MY MIND, LOOKING AT

[1:08:38] THE OUTDATED SEPARATION ORDINANCE, IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY

[1:08:43] FOR THE COUNCIL TO DOCUMENT WHAT THEIR EXPECTATIONS ARE. AND

[1:08:50] THOSE EXPECTATIONS WHETHER IT'S THROUGH THE SEPARATION ORDINANCE OR SOME OTHER MECHANISM, AS I

[1:08:57] EXPLAINED, THERE'S SOME IDIOSYNCRASIES THERE. BUT WHATEVER THOSE EXPECTATIONS ARE,

[1:09:04] I THINK WE NEED TO BE IN A POINT WHERE THE COUNCIL AND THE

[1:09:10] ADMINISTRATION ARE ON THE SAME PAGE AND KNOW WHAT MPD'S RESPONSE IS GOING TO BE.

[1:09:15] >> RIGHT. >> AND THEY CLEARLY ARTICULATE WHAT THEY SHOULD BE.

[1:09:21] >> THANK YOU. SPEAKING OF MPD'S RESPONSE, AT THESE SCENES, IF

[1:09:29] 911 IS CALLED, MPD HAS TO COME, RIGHT? >> I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. BUT -- >> I DEFINITELY NEED AN ANSWER

[1:09:36] TO THAT QUESTION BECAUSE IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT -- I MEAN,

[1:09:41] AT SCENES, THINGS UNFOLD. IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING. THERE COULD BE SOMETHING ELSE

[1:09:47] HAPPENING. AND IF MPD IS CALLED, I WAS TOLD THEY HAVE TO COME TO THE SCENE. IF SOMEONE THERE CALLS 911, THEY'RE COMING ANY

[1:09:54] WAY. SO THERE WILL BE MPD THERE POTENTIALLY. >> CHAIR CHAVEZ, COUNCIL MEMBER

[1:10:00] VETAW, JUST TO EXPAND ON THAT A LITTLE BIT. >> OKAY. >> I THINK THE BEST WAY TO FRAME

[1:10:07] IT IS THAT MPD DID RESPOND TO THIS 911 CALL. RIGHT. SO THEY

[1:10:13] ARE ABLE TO RESPOND IN ANY OF THESE SITUATIONS. SO AS A

[1:10:20] SEPARATION ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN, THEY CAN AND CUSTOMARILY DO RESPOND TO REQUESTS FROM FEDERAL

[1:10:26] AGENCIES OR, YOU KNOW, OTHER DEPARTMENTS EVEN WITHIN THE

[1:10:32] CITY. LIKE HENNEPIN COUNTY OR AN EMS DEPARTMENT. >> I'M TALKING ABOUT CITIZENS. IF SOMEONE IS ON THE SCENE AND

[1:10:37] THEY CALL 911, MPD SHOULD COME TO THAT CALL. >> YEAH. MPD SHOULD RESPOND TO

[1:10:46] 911 CALLS, YES. >> IF YOU HAVE A SCENE, IT COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE MPD ON IT

[1:10:52] BECAUSE SOMEONE CALLED 911 AND SAID THERE IS AN EMERGENCY. OR SOMEBODY DRIVING BY. IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME. SOMEBODY DRIVES

[1:10:59] BY, SEES A CROWD. THEY THINK THEY SAW WHAT THEY SAW, THEY CALL, AND THE POLICE SHOW UP. >> SURE, YEAH, OF COURSE. THERE

[1:11:07] ARE POLICE RESPONSES THAT ARE PROACTIVE BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND THERE ARE THOSE THAT ARE REACTIVE TO 911 CALLS,

[1:11:14] ABSOLUTELY. THAT COULD DEFINITELY HAPPEN. >> OKAY. AND THEN THE SEPARATION

[1:11:20] AGREEMENT AND THE MPD POLICY ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. AND I WAS TOLD AFTER THIS THAT THE MPD

[1:11:27] POLICY IS ACTUALLY STRONGER THAN THE SEPARATION AGREEMENT. YOU KNOW, I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO SEE

[1:11:32] A LOT MORE ABOUT THAT IN THIS REPORT. CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT, PLEASE?

[1:11:38] >> SURE. CHAIR CHAVEZ, COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW, THANK YOU FOR THE

[1:11:44] QUESTION. WE DO IN PAGES 14 --

[1:11:57] SORRY, 13 THROUGH 16, WE HIGHLIGHT THE TWO POLICIES THAT

[1:12:03] WE BELIEVE TO BE MOST RELEVANT AND MOST PARALLEL TO THE SEPARATION ORDINANCE. AND THE

[1:12:10] LATTER OF THE POLICIES ACTUALLY DISCUSSES ICE. AND IT CLEARLY

[1:12:17] HAS BEEN UPDATED MORE RECENTLY THAN THE SEPARATION ORDINANCE WHICH HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED TO

[1:12:24] INCLUDE ICE, DHS, HSI. >> SO IS THIS JUST ABOUT ICE OR

[1:12:30] ALL FEDERAL AGENCIES? BECAUSE ICE IS ONLY ONE AGENCY, BUT THERE'S A LOT MORE AGENCIES THAT COULD COME INTO MINNEAPOLIS AND

[1:12:36] DO SAME OR SIMILAR THINGS. >> CHAIR CHAVEZ, COUNCIL MEMBER

[1:12:41] VETAW, THAT IS A REALLY, REALLY

[1:12:47] GOOD QUESTION BECAUSE YOU'LL SEE ON FOOTNOTE 11 ON PAGE 17, THE

[1:12:57] PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES HAS EFFECTIVELY DEPUTIZED THE AGENCY HEADS OF OTHER EXECUTIVE

[1:13:05] BRANCHES OR OF OTHER EXECUTIVE AGENCIES AND ASKED THAT THEY ACT

[1:13:10] IN THE CAPACITY THAT NORMALLY YOU WOULD ONLY SEE FROM DHS. THE

[1:13:19] IDIOSYNCRASY HERE TOO IS OUTLINED IN A FOOTNOTE ON I

[1:13:25] BELIEVE IT'S THE THIRD PAGE.

[1:13:31] NOPE. PAGE 6. THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN DHS, ICE, HSI, ERO, IT'S

[1:13:45] AN IMPORTANT DISTINCTION. BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IT IS A DISTINCTION THAT MORE AND MORE

[1:13:53] IS ONLY ON PAPER BECAUSE OF THIS DEPUTIZATION OF OTHERS WITHIN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. >> THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO

[1:13:59] CLOSE WITH THIS. THIS TERRIBLE MOMENT IN OUR CITY HAS CLEARLY CAUSED SOME DIVISION THAT WE

[1:14:05] DON'T NEED RIGHT NOW. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE ADMINISTRATION, FOR THE COUNCIL,

[1:14:11] FOR THE COMMUNITY TO COME TOGETHER AND FIGURE OUT A PLAN ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO FIGHT THE

[1:14:16] FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. THE PLAN SHOULD NOT BE THIS. THE PLAN SHOULD BE US WORKING TOGETHER. I

[1:14:24] HEARD FROM SO MANY COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT WERE SCARED BECAUSE

[1:14:31] OF COMMUNICATION COMING FROM WHAT I FEEL LIKE IS THE RIGHT SIDE OF THINGS NOT JUST, YOU

[1:14:37] KNOW, WHAT IT COULD HAVE BEEN OR WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE. BUT TERRIBLE COMMUNICATION. THAT'S

[1:14:42] WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SURE WE PUT OUT THE RIGHT INFORMATION SO

[1:14:49] PEOPLE ARE INFORMED, SO PEOPLE KNOW HOW TO ACT AND REACT AND WHAT TO DO. WHAT THIS HAS DONE

[1:14:57] IN MY WARD IN PARTICULAR IS MAKE PEOPLE HIDE. I AM AFRAID FOR

[1:15:02] PEOPLE WHO ARE NOW SCARED TO LEAVE THEIR HOUSES TO GO GET RESOURCES AND CERTAIN THINGS

[1:15:08] THAT THEY NEED. IT WASN'T BEFORE THIS INCIDENT. THIS INCIDENT MADE PEOPLE EVEN MORE SCARED. I

[1:15:15] HEARD FROM BUSINESSES WHO SAID OUR BUSINESSES HAVE LOST SO MUCH BUSINESS BECAUSE OF THE

[1:15:20] MISINFORMATION THAT WENT OUT ABOUT THIS INCIDENT OR WHAT PEOPLE THOUGHT WAS HAPPENING. THIS IS A MOMENT IN WHICH WE CAN

[1:15:27] COME TOGETHER AS A CITY, WORK TOGETHER, MAKE IT BETTER, ENSURE

[1:15:34] THAT IMMIGRANTS IN MINNEAPOLIS FEEL SAFE NO MATTER WHAT. IT'S OUR DUTY AS ELECTED OFFICIALS TO

[1:15:41] GIVE OUT THE RIGHT INFORMATION. TO TAKE THE TIME IT NEEDS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE UNDERSTANDING WHAT'S HAPPENING AND SO WE

[1:15:47] COMMUNICATE THAT BETTER. I'M GLAD THAT WE HAVE THIS REPORT BECAUSE IT SHOWS US WHERE

[1:15:53] MISSTEPS WERE. WE'RE ALL RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS. NO ONE IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING SURE

[1:15:59] THAT PEOPLE GET THE RIGHT INFORMATION THAT THEY FEEL. THIS IS A HUGE PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE

[1:16:04] FOR OUR IMMIGRANT POPULATION, AND IT'S OUR JOB TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MAKE IT BETTER. THIS IS

[1:16:09] NOT OKAY. IT'S NOT OKAY TO SCARE PEOPLE WHEN THERE'S BAD PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY. THIS ENDED UP

[1:16:16] BEING A 900-POUND DRUG RAID OR WHATEVER IT WAS. THAT'S NOT OKAY. WE DON'T WANT THAT IN OUR

[1:16:21] COMMUNITY EITHER. AND SO WE GOTTA WORK TOGETHER HERE. WE GOTTA MAKE SURE WE'RE PUTTING

[1:16:27] OUT THE RIGHT INFORMATION. WE UNDERSTAND -- AND THEY'RE NEVER GOING TO TELL US IN ADVANCE, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER HERE

[1:16:34] IN THE MORNING AND DO XY AND Z, IT JUST DOESN'T HAPPEN THAT WAY.

[1:16:39] SO WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER. COUNCIL, MAYOR, CLERKS, AUDITORS,

[1:16:45] WHOMEVER. WE ALL NEED TO WORK TOGETHER TO ENSURE THAT PEOPLE ARE FEELING SAFE AND MORE THAN

[1:16:51] ANYTHING, THEY HAVE THE RIGHT INFORMATION. MISINFORMATION IS

[1:16:56] CAUSING SO MUCH STRESS AND ANXIETY IN THE COMMUNITY AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL THAT WE DON'T NEED IT HERE. WE NEED TO BE EMBRACING

[1:17:05] PEOPLE AND MAKING THEM FEEL SAFER, NOT SCARING THEM MORE THAN THEY ALREADY ARE. THANK

[1:17:10] YOU. >> THANK YOU. NEXT UP WE HAVE

[1:17:15] COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHAVEZ. I JUST WANT TO REGROUND THE

[1:17:21] CONVERSATION BACK TO WHAT'S AT PRESENT. AND THAT IS TO ABSOLUTELY UPLIFT THAT JUNE 3RD

[1:17:27] WAS DEEPLY TRAUMATIZING FOR RESIDENTS. AND FOR MANY, THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS ALREADY

[1:17:32] ANTICIPATED. AND I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS SAW THESE

[1:17:39] KINDS OF SITUATIONS COMING LONG IN ADVANCE, AND ACTUALLY TRIED TO WORK AS COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ

[1:17:47] HIGHLIGHTED, TRIED TO WORK PROACTIVELY WITH THE MAYOR FREY ADMINISTRATION ONCE TRUMP TOOK OFFICE IN JANUARY. AND I KNOW MY

[1:17:55] OFFICE RECEIVED SEVERAL QUESTIONS FROM CONSTITUENTS ABOUT HOW THE CITY WOULD BE

[1:18:00] RESPONDING FROM ATTACKS TO OUR IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES. MANY HIGHLIGHTED A PARTICULAR CONCERN

[1:18:06] IN WHICH THE ROLE MPD WOULD PLAY IN THEIR ROLE IN ENFORCING

[1:18:12] SEPARATION ORDINANCE, OR UNINTENTIONALLY BE COMPLICIT IN CARRYING OUT IMMIGRATION

[1:18:17] ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITIES. I ACTUALLY WANT TO READ A SECTION OF AN EMAIL THAT I RECEIVED FROM

[1:18:24] A RESIDENT THAT STATED I AM CONCERNED THAT OUR JUDICIAL SYSTEM IS NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO STOP THE ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES OF THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, AND

[1:18:30] I'M WONDERING HOW LAW ENFORCEMENT IS GOING TO RESPOND WHEN CITIZENS TAKE UP THIS

[1:18:37] ENDEAVOR. I'M ALSO CONCERNED THAT DONALD TRUMP MAY ENLIST THE MANY ARMED SUPPORTERS THAT HE

[1:18:42] HAS. AND WHEN HE CONFRONTS THE NON-VIOLENT SIT CITIZENS, I'M

[1:18:51] CONCERNED. I HOPE NONE COMES TO PASS. BUT I WANT TO BE SURE I CAN BE AS PREPARED AS I CAN BE.

[1:18:59] FOLLOWING RECEIVING THAT EMAIL, COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ AND I REACHED OUT TO -- ENFORCED.

[1:19:09] SPECIFICALLY WHAT DISCIPLINARY CONSEQUENCES WOULD THERE BE FOR OFFICERS WHO VIOLATED TERMS OF THE SEPARATION ORDINANCE. AND

[1:19:14] WHERE DOES THAT CURRENTLY FIT WITHIN OUR CURRENT DISCIPLINE MATRIX. WE ALSO WANTED TO KNOW

[1:19:21] HOW THERE WAS COMMUNICATION BEING CURATED AROUND THOSE CONSEQUENCES FOR OFFICERS SO

[1:19:27] THAT THEY WERE MADE SURE TO BE AWARE OF THESE EXPECTATIONS. THIS IS THE RESPONSE THAT I

[1:19:33] RECEIVED FROM THE CHIEF. HARD TO RESPOND TO HYPOTHETICAL, BUT I CAN SAY THAT I WILL ENSURE THAT

[1:19:40] THE MPD REMAINS COMMITTED TO UPHOLDING THE RULE OF LAW, AND THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS OF ALL

[1:19:46] PEOPLE. IN JANUARY OF 2021, WE SAW POLICE OFFICERS IN

[1:19:51] WASHINGTON, D.C. HONORABLY RESIST A MOB, A VIOLENT MOB.

[1:19:57] INCLUDING SOME WHO WOULD DIE AS A RESULT. -- THE CHIEF'S

[1:20:04] RESPONSE TO OUR CONSTITUENTS LEGITIMATE CONCERN AS TO HOW OUR

[1:20:10] LAW ENFORCEMENT AND CITY LEADERSHIP EFFECTIVELY PLANNING IS NOT A MATTER OF IF BUT WHEN

[1:20:16] THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION WOULD LAUNCH AN ATTACK ON OUR IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES, THE CHIEF'S RESPONSE MADE IT VERY

[1:20:21] CLEAR TO ME THAT THE CITY WAS NOT CURRENTLY PREPARED FOR THESE TYPE OF ATTACKS. AND THAT WE'RE

[1:20:27] SEEING HAPPENING ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY, AND THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE CONCRETE PROTOCOLS OR POLICIES IN PLACE TO ENSURE THAT

[1:20:33] OUR RESIDENTS REGARDLESS OF THEIR IMMIGRATION STATUS RECEIVE THE FULLEST PROTECTION THAT THEY

[1:20:39] DESERVE. AND AFTER LEARNING THIS, COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ AND I ACTUALLY AUTHORED A

[1:20:49] LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE TO LEARN HOW MPD WAS -- THAT PRESENTATION

[1:20:55] AFFIRMED THERE WERE NO STANDARD PROTOCOLS IN PLACE FOR CONSEQUENCES FOR OFFICERS WHO

[1:21:00] VIOLENT THE ORDINANCE OR COLLABORATE WITH ICE. MPD

[1:21:05] ACKNOWLEDGED IN THEIR OWN PRESENTATION THAT THERE WERE GAPS BOTH IN THE ORDINANCE

[1:21:12] ITSELF AND OPERATIONAL LOGISTICS. WE CAN USE OUR POLICY MAKING AND BUDGETARY AUTHORITY

[1:21:18] TO STRENGTHEN AND EXPAND PROTECTIONS FOR OUR MOST VULNERABLE RESIDENTS. AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THIS COUNCIL HAS

[1:21:23] BEEN DOING. RIGHT NOW OUR COLLEAGUES ARE WORKING ON AMENDING OUR SEPARATION

[1:21:28] ORDINANCE TO STRENGTHEN IT IN LIGHT OF THE EVENTS FOLLOWING AND WHAT TOOK PLACE ON JUNE 3RD.

[1:21:35] ALSO BEFORE THAT, COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ AND SEVERAL OF MY OTHER COLLEAGUES, WE MOVED BUDGETARY

[1:21:41] RESOURCES LAST DECEMBER TOWARDS THE OFFICE OF IMMIGRATION AND REFUGEE AFFAIRS IN ANTICIPATION AGAIN OF THESE GROWING ATTACKS

[1:21:49] TO MAKE SURE THAT OFFICE HAD INCREASED RESOURCES TO OFFER

[1:21:54] SUPPORT. SO I DO WANT TO NOTE COUNCIL HAS BEEN ACTING. WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR OUR OTHER

[1:22:01] PARTNERS IN THE EXECUTIVE SIDE TO MEET US IN THE MIDDLE TO ADVANCE STRONGER PROTECTIONS FOR OUR RESIDENTS. AND I KNOW

[1:22:07] RESIDENTS ARE LOOKING TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT TO LEAD OR STANDING UP AGAINST TRUMP, AND ACROSS THE

[1:22:13] COUNTRY, WE'RE ACTUALLY SEEING ELECTED OFFICIALS DO THAT AND THEY'RE BEING DETAINED AND ARRESTED AND HAVING THEIR FIRST

[1:22:19] AMENDMENT RIGHTS ALSO ATTACKED FOR DOING THE SAME THING. BUT

[1:22:24] THAT IS WHAT IS EXPECTED FROM US. JUNE 3RD, AS I HEARD FROM MANY OF MY COLLEAGUES STATED,

[1:22:31] JUNE 3RD WAS A TEST. IN MANY WAYS WE DID FAIL AS A CITY. I ABSOLUTELY AGREE, THIS IS AN

[1:22:38] OPPORTUNITY TO REFLECT ON WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO SHOW UP BETTER FOR OUR RESIDENTS. I'M EXCITED

[1:22:44] THAT MANY OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE TAKEN THAT TO TASK AND TAKEN IT SERIOUSLY BEFORE JUNE 3RD AND

[1:22:52] REMAIN COMMITTED. I WILL NOTE THIS TOO, I AM ACTUALLY THANKFUL WE HAD STAFF AND COUNCIL MEMBERS

[1:22:58] ON THE GROUND ON THE DAY OF. WE'VE SEEN A CONTINUAL REPEAT IN

[1:23:03] PATTERN WITH THE CITY'S ADMINISTRATION WHEN IT COMES TO

[1:23:11] ENCAMPMENT REMOVALS. SHOOTINGS OF RESIDENTS WHERE COUNCIL ARE THE LAST BODY MADE AWARE OF WHAT

[1:23:18] IS HAPPENING. OFTENTIMES THANK YOU TO THE STAR TRIBUNE, THAT IS OUR SOURCE LEARNING WITH THE

[1:23:24] REST OF THE PUBLIC. MOST OF THE TIMES IT HAS BEEN COUNCIL MEMBERS GOING TO THE SCENE OF

[1:23:31] EVENTS TO GET ACCURATE INFORMATION. THAT IS ACTUALLY WHERE I GOT MY INFORMATION. THANK YOU, MR. TIMMERMAN, YOU

[1:23:40] FEATURED MY NEWSLETTER IN THIS REPORT. I ACTUALLY DID RECEIVE

[1:23:46] IN REAL-TIME UPDATES FROM COLLEAGUES ABOUT WHAT WAS ACTUALLY UNFOLDING. BUT WHAT HAPPENED IN RESPONSE TO THAT AND

[1:23:52] US PUTTING THAT INFORMATION OUT AND WHAT WAS EVEN JUST REPEATED NOW ON THIS BODY IS THAT WE WERE

[1:23:58] DISCREDITED. WE WERE CALLED AND TOLD WE WERE SHARING MISINFORMATION. I'M ACTUALLY LOOKING AT CHIEF O'HARA'S

[1:24:05] STATEMENT ON JUNE 4TH WHERE THERE'S A SENTENCE THAT SAID THERE WAS IRRESPONSIBLE

[1:24:11] INFORMATION SHARED ON SOCIAL MEDIA BY SOME OFFICIALS. STATEMENTS MADE WITHOUT GATHERING BASIC FACTS. THIS

[1:24:16] REPORT SAYS THAT IS NOT TRUE. COUNCIL MEMBERS SHARED ACCURATE

[1:24:22] INFORMATION. WE SAW ICE PRESENT.

[1:24:28] ICE SAID WE WERE PRESENT LITERALLY. WE WERE ATTACKED WITH

[1:24:34] SHARING ACCURATE INFORMATION WITH RESIDENTS WHO WERE CONCERNED AND ANXIOUS ABOUT

[1:24:40] HAVING MILITARY-GRADE VEHICLES IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS AT 9:00 IN THE MORNING AND KNOWING THIS WAS COMING UNDER THE ORDERS OF

[1:24:46] THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. AND THEN SEEING MPD OFFICERS BEING PERCEIVED TO ESCORT THESE

[1:24:52] FEDERAL AGENTS INTO THEIR COMMUNITY TO JUSTIFIABLY EXPECT HARM TO BE COMMITTED. SO I JUST

[1:24:59] ALSO WANT TO PUT TO BED WE DID SHARE ACCURATE INFORMATION. I'M

[1:25:05] GLAD REPEATEDLY IT'S PUT IN THIS REPORT THAT MISINFORMATION WAS NOT ESPOUSED BY THIS BODY. WE

[1:25:12] WERE AT THE SCENE AS USUAL TO BE IN COMMUNITY WITH OUR RESIDENTS WHO DO LOOK TO US FOR LEADERSHIP

[1:25:19] AND SHOW SOME LEVEL OF A SPINE TOWARDS FIGHTING AGAINST THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. AND I AM

[1:25:24] THANKFUL FOR MY COLLEAGUES FOR REPEATEDLY DOING THAT REGARDLESS IF IT'S FOR OUR IMMIGRANT

[1:25:31] COMMUNITIES, FOR OUR BLACK COMMUNITIES WHO ARE CONSTANTLY BEING ATTACKED, OR OUR UNHOUSED

[1:25:39] COMMUNITIES. I AM SO GRATEFUL FOR THAT TYPE OF LEADERSHIP AND THAT'S THE LEADERSHIP THAT'S GOING TO BE NEEDED IN THE

[1:25:44] CURRENT TIMES THAT WE'RE IN. SO THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. AND NEXT UP WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO.

[1:25:52] >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. AND

[1:25:58] THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. YOU KNOW, I HAVE SEVERAL ACTION -- I HAVE SEVERAL

[1:26:03] COMMENTS ABOUT THE ACTIONS OF JUNE 3RD AND THE FOLLOW UP. BUT I FIRST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE

[1:26:10] REAL FEAR THAT'S EXPERIENCED BY OUR RESIDENTS THAT HAS GONE FAR PAST JUNE 3RD HERE, ESPECIALLY

[1:26:16] OUR UNDOCUMENTED NEIGHBORS. AND AS I READ THIS, AND I JUST GOT

[1:26:21] THIS A COUPLE OF HOURS AGO. I'M STILL DIGESTING IT. I CAN UNDERSTAND THE CHAOS AT THE SCENE. THAT WAS EXACERBATED BY A

[1:26:30] LACK OF INFORMATION. BUT FIRST, DIFFERENT THAN WHAT PREVIOUS

[1:26:35] COLLEAGUES SAID, IT DOES SAY IN THIS REPORT THAT A COUNCIL MEMBER IS LITERALLY IN THE TIMELINE AS RECEIVING

[1:26:41] INFORMATION DIRECTLY FROM MPD AT 11:39 A.M., THAT WASN'T FOUR HOURS AFTER THIS OCCURRED. THAT

[1:26:47] WAS PRETTY QUICKLY. AND SEVEN MINUTES LATER IN THIS TIMELINE, IT SAYS HE TWEETED SAYING, THEY

[1:26:57] LIED. COMMUNICATING IN AN EMERGENCY IS REALLY IMPORTANT. WE SITTING UP HERE ON THE DAIS

[1:27:03] HOLD THAT PUBLIC TRUST. ONE OF THE FINDINGS IS THAT CITY ADMINISTRATION DIDN'T LIE OR

[1:27:09] VIOLATE THE SEPARATION ORDINANCE. AND I THINK THERE'S INTEREST FROM ALL OF US IN STRENGTHENING THAT AS MUCH AS WE

[1:27:14] CAN, AS MUCH AS WE HAVE AUTHORITY TO DO FROM A CITY PERSPECTIVE. ANOTHER FINDING IS

[1:27:21] ACKNOWLEDGING IT TOOK FOUR HOURS TO ISSUE A FORMAL STATEMENT. WE COULD COMMUNICATE FASTER. THAT'S

[1:27:28] A REALLY FAIR CRITICISM OF ALL OF THIS. BUT TO GATHER ACCURATE

[1:27:34] INFORMATION TAKES A WHILE. GETTING VERIFIED INFORMATION TAKES TIME. AND WE'VE ALL

[1:27:39] LEARNED THIS IN OUR EMERGENCY TRAINING. THE CITY CLEARLY AND AS VERIFIED BY OUR AUDITOR SAYS

[1:27:44] THE CITY DID NOT KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON. PROBABLY BECAUSE THE SEPARATION ORDINANCE WORKS BOTH

[1:27:50] WAYS. WE WEREN'T BEING TOLD THE INFORMATION JUST LIKE WE AREN'T PER OUR SEPARATION ORDINANCE SHARING INFORMATION. COUNCIL

[1:28:01] MEMBER, YOU HAD INFORMATION AT THE SCENE THAT FEDERAL ACTION WAS NOT IMMIGRATION RELATED AND

[1:28:06] MPD WAS NOT INVOLVED. AT 11:39 A.M., I THINK WE CALL THAT

[1:28:12] CASUAL INFORMATION. BUT THEN SEVEN MINUTES LATER, TWEETING OUT "THEY LIED."

[1:28:18] THE INFORMATION THAT THEY SAID TO YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER, AND THAT MPD SAID, THE CITY SAID AND THEY

[1:28:24] PUT OUT, THEY GOT IT RIGHT. AND LIKE WE ALSO SAID, WE NEED TO

[1:28:30] HELP PEOPLE SAY THINGS TO BE SAFER AND BE SAFER. IN THE REPORT, AND I'M NOT SURE IF THE

[1:28:36] AUDITOR SHARED THIS DETAIL OUT LOUD HERE, BUT IT'S PUBLIC AS WE PUBLISH THIS, IT INDICATES THAT

[1:28:43] CITY EMPLOYEES FROM LEGISLATIVE STAFF WERE GETTING INVOLVED IN THESE ACTIONS. AND I'M CURIOUS FROM THE AUDITOR'S PERSPECTIVE,

[1:28:50] WERE THEY WORKING FOR THE CITY? WERE THEY ON CITY TIME? DID YOU INVESTIGATE THEIR TIME SHEETS AS PART OF THIS REVIEW? BECAUSE

[1:28:59] LIKE WE, YOU KNOW, THEY DO HAVE FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS. BUT THERE ARE FEDERAL LAWS AGAINST

[1:29:04] BEING ON A TIME SHEET THAT YOU ARE WORKING WHEN YOU'RE INSTEAD ON YOUR OWN EXHIBITING YOUR

[1:29:12] FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS. >> CHAIR CHAVEZ, COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO, THANK YOU FOR THE

[1:29:17] QUESTION. SO WE DID A FAIRLY THOROUGH REVIEW OF THE

[1:29:23] INFORMATION RELATED TO THE EMPLOYEES THAT WE MENTION IN THE

[1:29:32] REPORT. THE EMPLOYEES, AND I WANT TO BE MINDFUL BECAUSE THERE

[1:29:38] IS NO RECOMMENDATION FOR OR STATEMENT THAT THE ETHICS CODE

[1:29:43] HAS BEEN VIOLATED. AND SO I WANT TO BE VERY CAREFUL IN CHOOSING MY WORDS HERE. BUT TO TELL YOU

[1:29:50] WHAT OUR METHODOLOGY WAS, YES, WE LOOKED AT TIME SHEETS. AND

[1:29:57] WHAT I CAN TELL YOU WITHOUT CONSULTING WITH THE ATTORNEY IS

[1:30:03] THAT THE QUESTIONS ON THE SECTION 3, THE QUESTIONS THAT

[1:30:09] ARE LISTED THERE ARE RELEVANT TO THE REVIEW AND WHAT WE THINK THE COUNCIL SHOULD CONSIDER BASED ON

[1:30:14] WHAT WE OBSERVED ON JUNE 3RD. >> THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR

[1:30:20] THIS REPORT. THIS REPORT ALSO ACKNOWLEDGES THAT A COUNCIL MEMBER DID AN OP-ED PIECE. THE

[1:30:28] MAYOR DID A PRESS CONFERENCE. BUT IT DOESN'T SAY THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS CONTINUE TO SPREAD A

[1:30:33] FALSE NARRATIVE WEEKS LATER THAT I PERSONALLY BELIEVE WAS VERY DAMAGING AND SCARY TO THE COMMUNITY. THIS REPORT WAS GOOD.

[1:30:41] BUT I NEED TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND THIS MAKES SENSE BECAUSE YOU'RE AN AUDITOR AND THE SCOPE WAS

[1:30:48] NARROW, THAT THIS INCIDENT DIDN'T END ON JUNE 3RD. IT WOULD BE NOTABLE THAT COLLEAGUES AS

[1:30:53] STATED PUT OUT FORMAL STATEMENTS IN NEWSLETTERS, SOCIAL MEDIA,

[1:30:58] OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT POSTS PERPETUATING INFORMATION THAT TURNED OUT TO NOT BE TRUE. THEY

[1:31:05] DIDN'T THEN GO BACK AND CORRECT IT. AND I DON'T THINK THE ANSWER HERE IS ANOTHER AUDIT. BUT I DO HOPE THAT THERE'S

[1:31:11] ACCOUNTABILITY. AT FACE VALUE, THE CITY PROVIDED THEM INFORMATION, AND THESE ELECTEDS

[1:31:19] OR APPOINTEDS CONTINUE TO PERPETUATE LIES WITHOUT ANY BACKING. SO WITHOUT THIS AUDIT,

[1:31:27] WHICH I'M GLAD WE NOW HAVE, THEY CONTINUE TO PUSH MISINFORMATION AND TREAT IT AS FACT THAT THE

[1:31:34] ADMINISTRATION LIED. AND I JUST NEED TO SAY THAT AS I READ THIS REPORT, I JUST CAN'T GET BEYOND

[1:31:40] YOU CANNOT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS.

[1:31:46] >> I'M GOING TO GET BACK ON QUEUE. I'M GOING TO SAY THAT

[1:31:52] OVER AND OVER AGAIN BECAUSE THERE'S THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT SANITIZING THE FACT THAT ICE WAS IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND I GET IT'S

[1:31:59] COMING FROM A PRIVILEGED PLACE WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE TO EXPERIENCE WHAT ICE ACTUALLY MEANS AND WHAT THEY DO AND WHAT

[1:32:05] THEY SIGNIFY, WHICH IS A FAMILY SEPARATOR IN OUR COMMUNITY. IT'S AN AGENCY OF CHAOS. IT'S AN

[1:32:10] AGENCY THAT IS MEANT TO TERRORIZE OUR FAMILY MEMBERS. AND IT'S AN AGENCY THAT IS MEANT TO SCARE THE COMMUNITY THEY SHOW

[1:32:17] UP TO. POINT BLANK AND PERIOD. IF THEY SHOW UP TO YOUR COMMUNITY, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO

[1:32:22] GET NOTIFIED NO MATTER WHAT. AND I'M GOING TO KEEP ON SAYING THAT, AND I'M GOING TO STAND BY WHAT I SAID BECAUSE THE REALITY

[1:32:28] IS THAT ICE WAS IN OUR COMMUNITY. PEOPLE CAN TALK ABOUT LIKE WHAT THEY WERE DOING ON

[1:32:35] SITE. BUT THEIR MERE PRESENCE IN ON LAKE STREET IN MINNEAPOLIS IN OUR COMMUNITY NEXT TO THE

[1:32:41] MINNEAPOLIS POLICE DEPARTMENT IS DAMAGING. THAT'S JUST WHAT IT IS. IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE THAT WAY. THERE NEEDS TO BE PROTOCOLS

[1:32:48] IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THAT BEHAVIOR DOES NOT CONTINUE IN THIS CITY BECAUSE WE KNOW FOR A

[1:32:54] FACT THAT THIS AGENCY IS GOING TO SEPARATE FAMILIES. AND AS I SAID, I STAND BY EVERYTHING THAT

[1:33:00] I SAID. I'M GOING TO REPEAT THAT TO YOUR FACE, COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO, I STAND BY WHAT I

[1:33:05] SAID. AND YEAH. I DID NOT LIE. WHEN YOU ARE TOLD IN THE

[1:33:11] COMMUNITY AND WHEN FOLKS ON SITE ARE BEING TOLD THAT ICE IS NOT PRESENT AND THEN THEY POP UP

[1:33:17] MINUTES LATER, THERE'S GOING TO BE A REACTION. NEXT, I WILL PASS IT TO COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON.

[1:33:30] >> YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT THE STAFF, THE THREE STAFF THAT ARE MENTIONED HERE ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THEY

[1:33:36] WERE ON CITY TIME. AND AT LEAST FROM WHAT I KNOW, THE THREE STAFF THAT ARE MENTIONED HERE, NONE OF THEM WERE ON CITY TIME.

[1:33:43] THAT'S WHAT I KNOW ABOUT -- THAT'S WHAT I KNOW ABOUT THE SITUATION. SO I DON'T KNOW WHY

[1:33:49] WE GOTTA DODGE ON THAT QUESTION. THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING ALL OF THEM WERE OUT NOT ON CITY TIME

[1:33:56] WHEN THEY WERE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO SAY IN THE CONTEXT OF THIS REPORT SO THAT IT'S NOT

[1:34:03] CLEAR. GIVEN WHAT WE WERE SEEING OUT IN THE COMMUNITY, IT WASN'T JUST GOING OUT PARTICIPATING IN

[1:34:08] A PROTEST. THERE'S CONSTITUENTSES OUT THERE WHO HAVE REAL NEED IN THE COMMUNITY.

[1:34:15] IF COUNCIL MEMBER STAFF WERE OUT THERE DOING CONSTITUENT SERVICE WORK, I ACTUALLY DON'T THINK

[1:34:22] THAT WOULD BE AN INAPPROPRIATE USE OF THEIR TIME. I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR. AND BECAUSE OF

[1:34:28] THAT, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT THIS ACTION THAT'S HAPPENING IN THE COMMUNITY -- SORRY, IF I'M A

[1:34:34] LITTLE NASALLY, I'M RECOVERING FROM A BUG. I ACTUALLY LOOK AT

[1:34:39] THESE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE STAFF, DID EMPLOYEES DAMAGE TRUST? DID

[1:34:45] EMPLOYEES DISRUPT CITY OPERATIONS? I THINK THESE QUESTIONS ARE LEADING AND WILDLY INAPPROPRIATE, TO BE HONEST WITH

[1:34:50] YOU. IF I'M READING THIS REPORT. AND I'M JUXTAPOSINGSING AGAINST

[1:34:58] WHAT WE LIVED THROUGH AND SAW OUT THERE. I JUST THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE SAID. THE OTHER THING IS THAT WE'VE SPENT A LOT

[1:35:05] OF TIME TALKING ABOUT THE SEPARATIONS ORDINANCE. BUT THE SEPARATIONS ORDINANCE AS FAR AS I KNOW IS NOT THE SOURCE OF WHAT

[1:35:11] GAVE PEOPLE THE IMPRESSION THAT MPD WOULD NOT BE WORKING WITH ICE. THE MAYOR GAVE A PRESS

[1:35:17] CONFERENCE STATING THAT. THAT'S WHAT CREATED THAT IMPRESSION, NOT AN ANTIQUATED ORDINANCE. SO

[1:35:22] I DON'T KNOW WHY THE ORDINANCE AND WHETHER OR NOT THE ORDINANCE WAS VIOLATED BECAME THE MAIN

[1:35:28] POINT OF CONTENTION WHEN IT'S NOT THE SOURCE WHERE IT WAS

[1:35:35] CREATED. WE CAN CHANGE THE ORDINANCE. WE CAN CREATE BETTER DEFINITIONS. WE CAN, YOU KNOW,

[1:35:41] THE MAYOR CAN OUTLINE FURTHER WHAT HE MEANS BY SEPARATION. BUT I DON'T WANT US TO SORT OF SIT

[1:35:48] HERE AND MOVE THE GOAL POST WHICH I FEEL LIKE WE'VE DONE HERE BY DISCUSSING WHETHER OR NOT THE ORDINANCE WAS VIOLATED

[1:35:53] BECAUSE THE ORDINANCE WAS NOT THE SOURCE OF WHERE PEOPLE GOT THE IMPRESSION THAT MPD WOULD NOT BE WORKING WITH ICE. I THINK

[1:35:59] IT'S IMPORTANT TO SAY. YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU KNOW, WE COULD ALL SORT OF FLIP THROUGH THIS

[1:36:05] DOCUMENT AND SORT OF TAKE OUR ISSUES WITH IT. BUT I DO THINK THAT THE ONE THING THAT'S

[1:36:12] IMPORTANT TO SAY IS THAT THE ETHICS CODE WASN'T VIOLATED NOT FROM OUR STAFF, WHICH IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO ME IN

[1:36:18] THIS REPORT. WHEN WE'VE GOT PEOPLE WHO ARE BRAVE ENOUGH WHO WORK FOR THE CITY TO GO OUT THERE AND PUT THEMSELVES ON THE

[1:36:25] LINE, PUT THEIR TIME ON THE LINE, PUT THEIR BODIES ON THE LINE TO DEFEND THEIR NEIGHBORS, I DON'T THINK THAT SHOULD BE

[1:36:31] REPRIMANDED AND SCOLDED IN A REPORT. I DON'T THINK THAT'S AN APPROPRIATE USE OF CITY RESOURCES. THAT'S ALL I GOT TO

[1:36:37] SAY ABOUT IT. I'M WILLING TO KEEP ENGAGING IN THIS DISCUSSION. IF THE CONCLUSIONS

[1:36:44] IN THIS REPORT ARE TT PEOPLE NEED TO CALL EACH OTHER QUICKER, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE HAVE TO HAVE

[1:36:49] SUCH A LONG DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS REPORT. >> NEXT UP WE HAVE VICE CHAIR CHOWDHURY.

[1:36:56] >> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHAVEZ. I'LL JUST FIRST START OFF BY SAYING IF WE'RE GOING TO SAY THAT SOME

[1:37:01] OF OUR COLLEAGUES ARE LYING, YOU SHOULD BRING RECEIPTS. [APPLAUSE] >> THAT'S THIS. BECAUSE THAT'S

[1:37:07] REALLY UNFAIR. I WAS A COUNCIL

[1:37:12] MEMBER THAT WROTE AN OP-ED, AND IT WAS TITLED TOP LEADERS IN MINNEAPOLIS DOWNPLAYED THREATS

[1:37:19] TO IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES. BECAUSE THE VERY NEXT DAY, AGAIN, WE SAW A RECORD NUMBER OF

[1:37:24] ARRESTS BY ICE. AND AGAIN, WE HAD A MILITARIZED FORCE ON THE GROUND. AND AGAIN, COLLATERAL

[1:37:30] ARRESTS HAPPENED. YOU DO NOT NEED TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO DO IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT IF

[1:37:37] YOU'RE DEPUTIZED TO DO IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT. WE NEED TO BE READY IN THE REALITY OF THIS MOMENT OF 2025. AND I WOULD

[1:37:43] WRITE THAT OP-ED OVER AND OVER AGAIN, AND YOU COULD GO AND READ IT. BECAUSE I DID NOT LIE IN

[1:37:50] THAT OP-ED. I ALSO SAID IN THAT

[1:37:55] OP-ED THAT LEADERS WERE BLAME SHIFTING AND POINTING FINGERS AND SHIFTING FOCUS AWAY FROM

[1:38:02] FEDERAL AGENCIES. WHICH I'M HEARING UP HERE TODAY. AND SO I WANT TO GROUND US BACK INTO THAT. AS THE CITY OF

[1:38:10] MINNEAPOLIS, IN THIS PRESENT MOMENT, WE DO NOT HAVE A PROPER

[1:38:15] PROTOCOL. WE DO NOT HAVE A PROPER SYSTEMIZED COMMUNICATION CHANNEL. WE DO NOT HAVE CLEAR

[1:38:21] PLANS ENTERPRISE WIDE ON HOW WE WILL BE RESILIENT ENOUGH TO PROTECT OUR IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY.

[1:38:29] IT WAS SAID THAT OUR POLICE POLICY IS STRONGER THAN THE SEPARATION ORDINANCE. AND I WILL

[1:38:36] JUST STATE WITHIN THE REPORT IT SAYS PERMISSIBLE UNDER THE

[1:38:41] SEPARATION ORDINANCE AND CURRENT POLICY FOR MPD TO ASSIST FEDERAL AGENCIES, THIS INCLUDES ICE. SO

[1:38:49] THAT INDICATES TO US THAT THERE ARE SOME MAJOR GAPS HERE. SOME ISSUES IN RESILIENCY. AND GOING

[1:39:00] TO THE SEPARATION ORDINANCE, WHY MYSELF, COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ, COUNCIL MEMBER CHUGHTAI, COUNCIL

[1:39:09] MEMBER OSMAN, COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY? >> SURE. >> SURE. SHE'S A BIG ASSIST. WHY

[1:39:15] WE AUTHORED IT IS BECAUSE IT IS AN ORDINANCE, AND AMBER, RIGHT.

[1:39:22] IT IS AT A DIFFERENT TIME THAT DOES NOT MEET THIS MOMENT, 2003. AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT

[1:39:27] DOESN'T GET LOST HERE. AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE HAVE MADE EFFORTS BEFORE TO TRY TO RING AN

[1:39:33] ALARM BELL TO MAKE A CHANGE, AND WE HAVE IT RIGHT BEFORE US. I SEE IT AS A TANGIBLE ACTION. OUR

[1:39:38] SEPARATION ORDINANCE ASSUMES THERE'S GOING TO BE A GOOD FAITH FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT'S GOING TO TELL US, HEY, WE'RE DOING

[1:39:44] IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT. THAT IS NOT THE CASE. OUR SEPARATION ORDINANCE IN SOME WAYS ASSUMES

[1:39:50] THAT IMMIGRATIONS CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENT IS ONLY GOING TO DO IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT. THAT IS

[1:39:55] NOT THE CASE. OUR SEPARATION ORDINANCE DOES NOT HAVE A

[1:40:03] MECHANISM IN WHICH IF MPD IS INVOLVED OR THE CITY'S INVOLVED HOW THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE

[1:40:09] REPORTED AND DOCUMENTED AND COLLECTED AND OVERSEEN. THERE'S SOME REALLY BIG QUESTIONS HERE

[1:40:15] THAT WE HAVE TO ADDRESS. I JUST

[1:40:20] KIND OF WANT TO CLOSE BY SAYING I HOPE EVERYONE THAT CAME HERE

[1:40:26] TODAY CAN TAKE SOME TIME TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE AFTER ACTION

[1:40:34] REVIEW THAT'S AVAILABLE IN PRINT COPY HERE. BUT ALSO NOW MADE AVAILABLE PUBLICLY ONLINE. I

[1:40:39] KNOW WE'RE ON THE AGE OF SOCIAL MEDIA AND THE AGE OF SCROLLING, BUT TAKE SOME TIME TO READ IT

[1:40:44] AND REACH OUT TO YOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS, REACH OUT TO YOUR MAYOR, AND HOLD US ACCOUNTABLE.

[1:40:50] ASK US TO DO BETTER FOR OUR CITY WITH YOU. DO BETTER FOR OUR IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

[1:40:55] THERE'S A LOT OF POWER HERE TO DO SO. AND ALSO, THERE IS SO MUCH POWER AT THE EXECUTIVE

[1:41:01] LEVEL TO ARRANGE OPERATIONS, TO COMMUNICATE WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS, TO COMMUNICATE WITH

[1:41:07] CONSTITUENTS, TO PUT A PROCEDURE AND A PROTOCOL TOGETHER. AS FAR

[1:41:13] AS POLICE POLICY GOES, NO CITY

[1:41:19] COUNCIL MEMBER CAN LEGISLATE POLICE POLICY. THAT IS ONLY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF

[1:41:24] MINNEAPOLIS. IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF WORK TO DO THERE AS WELL. I APPRECIATE

[1:41:29] YOUR TIME, YOUR VOICES, AFTER THIS PUBLIC HEARING THAT WILL TAKE PLACE TODAY, THAT NEED TO

[1:41:36] CONTINUE TO COME TO CITY HALL. >> THANK YOU. NEXT UP IS COUNCIL

[1:41:42] VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I HAD A CHANCE TO CONFER WITH THE CITY

[1:41:47] ATTORNEY ABOUT THIS RIGHT BEFORE OR RIGHT AFTER THE QUESTION WAS INITIALLY ASKED OF THE CITY AUDITOR. BUT YOU KNOW, THERE ARE

[1:41:54] THREE EMPLOYEES IN THE LEGISLATIVE DEPARTMENT THAT ARE REFERENCED IN THIS REPORT, AND THEIR ACTIONS OR PRESENCE AT THE

[1:42:00] INTERSECTION OF LAKE AND BLOOMINGTON ON JUNE 3RD IS

[1:42:06] REFERENCED. ALL THREE OF THOSE EMPLOYEES TOOK A SICK DAY OR TOOK PTO THAT DAY, A VACATION

[1:42:13] DAY THAT IS A PROTECTED RIGHT THAT THEY HAVE AS A CONDITION OF THEIR EMPLOYMENT. AND SO YOU

[1:42:20] KNOW, I TOO WILL ECHO COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON'S STATEMENT THAT IT RUBBED ME THE WRONG WAY THAT

[1:42:26] THAT QUESTION WAS DODGED AS WELL, AND THAT SHARING SUCH

[1:42:32] INFORMATION IS NOT A VIOLATION OF ANY LAWS THAT WE MUST ADHERE BY AS AN EMPLOYER HERE IN THIS

[1:42:39] CASE. YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT

[1:42:44] THE ROLE OF THE CITY AND CITY EMPLOYEES IN WHAT HAPPENED AT

[1:42:51] THAT INTERSECTION THAT DAY. BUT YOU KNOW SOMETHING I JUST REALLY WANT TO LIFT UP IS BY THE TIME I

[1:42:57] ARRIVED ON THE SCENE, THERE WERE HUNDREDS OF RESIDENTS OF THE CITY THAT WERE AT THAT INTERSECTION THAT WERE STANDING

[1:43:05] ALONGSIDE AND GATHERING ALONGSIDE OUR IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY THAT LIVES IN THAT

[1:43:12] AREA, WORKS IN THAT AREA, FREQUENTS THAT AREA. AND OF THE

[1:43:17] HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE THAT WERE THERE, CERTAINLY THERE WERE SEVERAL CITY EMPLOYEES AS HAS BEEN REFERENCED. BUT YOU KNOW,

[1:43:23] AROUND THE COUNTRY IN THIS MOMENT, WE ARE SEEING ACTIONS LIKE WHAT TOOK PLACE IN OUR CITY

[1:43:31] AND FAR MORE ESCALATORY ONES IN CITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY WHERE YOU KNOW, THE TRUMP

[1:43:37] ADMINISTRATION IS COMING IN AND TERRORIZING AND BULLYING AND

[1:43:44] INTIMIDATING AND DISAPPEARING MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY. THAT'S A REALLY SCARY TIME WE'RE LIVING IN. AND DIFFERENT WAYS PEOPLE

[1:43:49] ARE STEPPING UP. AND WHAT I SAW AND IMPORTANT TO HIGHLIGHT IN THIS MOMENT WAS THERE WAS

[1:43:55] HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE WHO HAD THE COURAGE THAT DAY TO SHOW UP THAT

[1:44:01] DAY. ALL OF YOU COULD HAVE DONE THAT TOO. BUT ONLY SOME SHOWED

[1:44:06] UP. THERE ARE SO MANY EMPLOYEES THAT WORK IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR IN OUR CITY. ONLY SOME CHOSE TO

[1:44:12] SHOW UP. THAT'S A FORM OF PUBLIC SERVICE TO ME. I WANT TO COMMEND THEM FOR APPLYING THAT TO

[1:44:20] THEMSELVES. IT'S A FORM OF PATRIOTISM TO ME TO SHOW UP FOR THOSE WHO ARE MARGINALIZED, AND

[1:44:26] TO TAKE THOSE TYPES OF RISKS ON YOURSELF, ON YOUR REPUTATION, ON YOUR CAREER. TO PUT YOUR BODY ON

[1:44:32] THE LINE FOR THOSE WHO ARE QUITE LITERALLY UNDER THREAT OF

[1:44:38] DEPORTATION AND MISTREATMENT AND ABUSE BY A GOVERNMENT THAT'S SUPPOSED TO PROTECT THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE. I'M PROUD OF THAT

[1:44:49] AND I THINK WE SHOULD ALL BE TOO. THOSE ARE NOT ACTIONS THAT SHOULD BE MISCHARACTERIZED IN

[1:44:56] ANY TYPE OF WAY. THOSE ARE NOT ACTIONS THAT SHOULD BE -- THOSE ARE MINNEAPOLIS VALUES PLAYING

[1:45:02] OUT IN REAL TIME, COUNCIL MEMBER. THOSE ARE MINNEAPOLIS VALUES TO STAND UP FOR IMMIGRANTS PLAYING OUT IN REAL

[1:45:08] TIME. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. >> AND THANK YOU. AND LASTLY -- KNOW, JUST KIDDING. AND NEXT UP,

[1:45:14] WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER JENKINS. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHAVEZ. I GUESS, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW

[1:45:24] TO FRAME EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN SAID ABOUT PEOPLE BEING

[1:45:34] DISAPPEARED, THAT'S ALL TRUE. THE FEAR IN OUR COMMUNITY IS ALL TRUE. I'M GRATEFUL FOR THIS

[1:45:44] REPORT. I'M CURIOUS, MR. TIMMERMAN, IF YOU CAN JUST SPEAK

[1:45:52] TO WHAT WOULD BE THE RISK OF MPD NOT SHOWING UP AT AN EVENT LIKE THAT?

[1:45:58] >> WELCOME.

[1:46:03] >> CHAIR CHAVEZ, COUNCIL MEMBER

[1:46:08] JENKINS, I THINK IT'S MAYBE A FINE BALANCE OF RHETORICAL QUESTION THERE BECAUSE I THINK

[1:46:15] THE ANSWER IS CLEAR THAT THE RISK IN A SITUATION LIKE THIS OF

[1:46:20] MINNEAPOLIS POLICE NOT SHOWING

[1:46:25] UP IS INJURY, HARM TO OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS, TO PROPERTY IN OUR COMMUNITY. I THINK THAT

[1:46:39] WHAT I HAD NOT SAID IN THIS WAY IN THE REPORT BUT I WILL SAY NOW, AND I'VE SAID IT TO OTHERS,

[1:46:46] IS THIS GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO THINK ABOUT WHICH DIRECTION

[1:46:54] WE WANT MPD -- IF ICE COMES BACK

[1:47:02] TO OUR COMMUNITIES. THE RISK IS REAL.

[1:47:08] >> AND NEXT UP WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR. YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO SAY I APPRECIATE

[1:47:15] THOSE WHO USED THEIR BODIES TO SHOW UP, BUT THAT'S NOT EVERYBODY'S WAY. I CHOOSE TO USE

[1:47:20] MY RESOURCES, MY RELATIONSHIP, MY MIND. OTHER TOOLS THAT I HAVE TO SHOW UP FOR IMMIGRANT

[1:47:26] FAMILIES IN MY WARD. THIS DAY HAPPENED, BUT THERE ARE SO MANY

[1:47:32] OTHER THINGS HAPPENING WITH OUR IMMIGRANT FAMILIES IN MINNEAPOLIS RIGHT NOW THAT I AM PROUD THAT I HELP THOSE FAMILIES

[1:47:39] WORK THROUGH AND CONTINUE TO WORK THROUGH. SO WHY SOME CHOSE TO GO THAT DAY, THANKS. GREAT.

[1:47:44] THAT'S ON YOU. BUT THAT'S WHAT YOU GET TO DO, AND OTHERS GET TO CHOOSE HOW THEY WANT TO SHOW UP

[1:47:49] FOR IMMIGRANT FAMILIES. >> THANK YOU. AND LASTLY, MAYBE,

[1:47:56] NOPE, JUST KIDDING. NEXT UP WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON.

[1:48:02] >> I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER JENKINS' QUESTION IS A REALLY IMPORTANT ONE. THE RESPONSE MADE ME QUESTION HOW ARE WE DEFINING

[1:48:09] RISK? ARE WE TALKING -- I ALWAYS THINK OF LEGAL RISK, FINANCIAL

[1:48:14] RISK, THAT'S HOW I THINK OF IT. I FEEL LIKE THE QUESTION IS A LITTLE UNANSWERED. MAYBE THE

[1:48:20] ANSWER IS WE JUST DON'T KNOW. WHAT IS THE RISK IF MPD JUST

[1:48:25] DOESN'T SHOW UP. SORT OF THIS ETHEREAL WAY WE DISCUSS RISK

[1:48:31] COLLOQUIALLY. MAYBE THAT'S A GOOD RESPONSE. I'M THINKING AS A CITY, AS FIDUCIARIES, I'M

[1:48:36] THINKING LEGAL RISK, FINANCIAL RISK. DO WE HAVE A RESPONSE FOR THAT?

[1:48:42] >> I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE ASKING THE CITY AUDITOR OR -- >> IF YOU KNOW.

[1:48:48] >> CHAIR CHAVEZ, COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON, THIS ENTIRE BOOK LISTS

[1:48:54] RISKS TO A GOVERNMENT ORGANIZATION. I'D BE HAPPY TO SEND YOU A LINK FOR IT.

[1:49:00] >> HOW DO YOU -- >> I MEAN, IT'S NOT ETHEREAL. CHAIR CHAVEZ, COUNCIL MEMBER

[1:49:06] ELLISON. THERE ARE REAL RISKS THAT ARE DOCUMENTED THAT GOVERNMENT AUDITORS REVIEW, CONSIDER, AND COMMUNICATE ON.

[1:49:13] AND TO COUNCIL MEMBER JENKINS' QUESTION, THE RISK IS TO LIFE AND PROPERTY. THE RISK IS TO

[1:49:20] FINANCIAL IMPACT. BUT MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE, THE RISK IS TO

[1:49:28] REPUTATION. OUR STAFF'S BEHAVIOR WHETHER THAT'S CITY COUNCIL STAFF, WHETHER THAT'S THE CHIEF

[1:49:35] OF POLICE'S STAFF, HAS REAL EFFECT ON REPUTATION OF THE CITY. AND AS I SAID ON THE FRONT

[1:49:44] END OF THIS PRESENTATION, I TOOK THIS JOB TO HELP INSTILL AND

[1:49:51] REBUILD TRUST IN OUR COMMUNITY. REPUTATIONAL RISK IS A REAL RISK. AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT I

[1:50:00] AM VERY SERIOUS ABOUT IN HOW I CHOOSE MY WORDS. SO BELIEVE ME WHEN I SAY THE WORDS THAT I

[1:50:07] CHOSE FOR SECTION 3 COULD HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT. >> SURE. SO REPUTATIONAL RISK IS

[1:50:13] HOW YOU'RE DEFINING IT IN THAT SPECIFIC ANSWER. THAT'S HELPFUL. >> IT'S HOW THE GOVERNMENT AUDIT

[1:50:19] STANDARDS DEFINE IT. IT'S REPUTATIONAL. IT'S LIFE. IT'S PROPERTY. IT'S FINANCIAL RISK TO

[1:50:24] THE CITY. >> BUT WHOSE LIFE AND PROPERTY, RIGHT? WE'VE GOT RESIDENTS

[1:50:31] RESPONDING TO, WHO ARE PROTESTING FEDERAL ACTIONS THAT

[1:50:36] WE HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO QUESTION, THAT PRECEDENT PUTS US IN A

[1:50:43] POSITION TO QUESTION, PUTS THE COMMUNITY IN A POSITION TO QUESTION. MPD GETS CALLED BY

[1:50:48] THOSE FORCES TO COME AND RESPOND TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND I'M JUST KIND OF WONDERING WHEN WE

[1:50:54] THINK ABOUT RISK IN THAT SENSE, ARE WE THINKING, OKAY, WELL

[1:50:59] THERE'S FINANCIAL RISK, THERE'S EXPOSURE, LITIGATION EXPOSURE, IF WE DON'T RESPOND TO THE

[1:51:06] FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. I'M JUST KIND OF WONDERING IF THAT WAS PLAYED INTO YOUR ANSWER. MAYBE

[1:51:12] MY QUESTION IS MORE APPROPRIATE TO THE ATTORNEYS. NOT HERE. BUT

[1:51:17] MAYBE THAT QUESTION IS MORE APPROPRIATE TO THE ATTORNEYS. YOUR ANSWER, YOU'RE THINKING

[1:51:23] REPUTATIONAL RISK. >> I ALSO SAID FINANCIAL, RISK TO LIFE. I HAD A MUCH MORE

[1:51:29] LENGTHY ANSWER TO THAT. >> THANK YOU. NEXT UP WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO. >> I DON'T WANT DIVISION HERE,

[1:51:35] AND SINCE WE'LL BE HEARING FROM THE PUBLIC, I DO WANT TO SAY

[1:51:41] SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL MEMBER JENKINS BROUGHT UP AS A NEXT STEP. I DO THINK THAT'S THE NEXT CONVERSATION THAT WE NEED TO HAVE. DO WE WANT MPD TO SHOW UP

[1:51:52] WHENEVER ICE IS IN OUR COMMUNITY? ICE IS A BROAD ORGANIZATION. THEY DO MORE THAN

[1:51:58] IMMIGRATION PUSHES. IN THIS CASE, A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION. BUT IT'S CONFUSING. IT'S

[1:52:04] CONFUSING WHEN PEOPLE SHOW UP WITH THAT ON THEIR BACK. THE AUDITOR SAID LIFE, PROPERTY,

[1:52:11] REPUTATION. WE CANNOT LEAVE PEOPLE THINKING THAT WE DIDN'T SHOW UP FOR THEM. MPD SAID THEY

[1:52:20] SHOWED UP BECAUSE THEY WERE CALLED TO BE THERE. CAN THEY CHOOSE NOT TO BE? I SAW OVER AND

[1:52:26] OVER IN FOOTAGE THAT I WOULDN'T HAVE WANTED THOSE ICE AGENTS DIRECTLY INVOLVED WITH COMMUNITY

[1:52:32] MEMBERS. I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD HAVE GONE WELL. I THINK IT'S A REAL QUESTION. SHOULD THEY JUST SHOW UP IN RESPONSE TO

[1:52:41] A 911 EMERGENCY DURING A SITUATION LIKE THAT? OR DO WE ASK THEM TO COME AND BE A

[1:52:50] MEMBRANE BETWEEN OUR RESIDENTS AND FEDERAL AGENTS? THAT'S WHAT THEY DID. IS THAT THE RIGHT

[1:52:57] ANSWER? I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS IN A SITUATION LIKE THAT.

[1:53:02] I AM EAGER TO LEARN THAT AND HAVE BEEN HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY.

[1:53:08] I'VE ALSO BEEN ASKING THOSE OF YOU IN OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT

[1:53:13] BRIEFINGS THAT QUESTION. AND I THINK THAT MAYBE THE WAY WE PRODUCTIVELY USE THIS IS WHAT

[1:53:20] WOULD WE HAVE DONE DIFFERENT NEXT TIME? WHAT WOULD WE HAVE ASKED MPD TO DO DIFFERENT? DO WE

[1:53:26] WANT THEM TO BE A MEMBRANE IN THE COMMUNITY OR NOT? I THINK

[1:53:32] THAT'S AN HONEST INQUIRY OUT. I APPRECIATE THAT PEOPLE HAVE

[1:53:38] DIFFERING ANSWERS TO THAT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. AND HOPEFULLY

[1:53:44] LASTLY WE HAVE COUNCIL VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I'M

[1:53:50] ACTUALLY, THE DISCUSSION AROUND RISK REALLY CAUGHT MY ATTENTION. SO LOOKING AT THIS TIMELINE. I

[1:53:57] SEE THAT AT 11:14 A.M. THAT DAY OR 11:19 THAT DAY, I APOLOGIZE,

[1:54:05] THAT THE HOMELAND SECURITY INVESTIGATIONS HSI AND THE

[1:54:11] FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVES INVESTIGATIONS, FBI. AGAIN, HSI IS AN AGENCY OF THE DEPARTMENT

[1:54:19] OF HOMELAND SECURITY JUST AS ICE IS AN AGENCY OF THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY. HSI

[1:54:28] CONDUCTS INVESTIGATIONS. ICE CONDUCTS ENFORCEMENT. THEY WORK HAND IN HAND TOGETHER. MPD SHOWS

[1:54:35] UP ON THE SCENE. LET'S TALK ABOUT RISK HERE. CAN YOU TALK TO

[1:54:40] ME ABOUT WHAT YOU BELIEVE THE RISK IS REPUTATIONAL, FINANCIAL,

[1:54:47] OR OTHERWISE, OF THE RESIDENTS OF OUR CITY WHO ULTIMATELY FOOT THE BILL FOR ALL OF THIS, AND

[1:54:53] ULTIMATELY, WE ARE ALL ACCOUNTABLE TO. THE RESIDENTS OF OUR CITY SEEING THEIR LOCAL LAW

[1:55:01] ENFORCEMENT AGENCY APPEARING TO COLLABORATE WITH ICE, THE

[1:55:07] DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY, AND HSI? WHAT'S THE REPUTATIONAL RISK OF THAT?

[1:55:12] >> CHAIR CHAVEZ, COUNCIL MEMBER CHUGHTAI, I CAN'T SPECULATE TO THAT BECAUSE IN ORDER TO REMAIN

[1:55:18] OBJECTIVE AND INDEPENDENT, I CANNOT THINK OR SPEAK ON BEHALF OF OTHER PEOPLE. WHAT WE DO IS WE LOOK AT LEGAL CRITERIA,

[1:55:25] WHETHER THAT'S STATE LAW, CITY CHARTER, CITY LAW. DO I HAVE PERSONAL OPINIONS? YES. BUT I

[1:55:32] CAN'T SHARE THOSE BECAUSE I HAVE TO REMAIN OBJECTIVE AND STICK TO LEGAL CRITERIA TO COMPARE

[1:55:38] ACTIONS AGAINST. >> I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. AND YOU KNOW, REALLY APPRECIATE THAT

[1:55:46] YOU HAVE A REALLY RIGID ROLE AROUND MAINTAINING OBJECTIVITY. I'M NOT GOING TO ASK YOU TO

[1:55:51] SPECULATE ON YOUR PERSONAL OPINIONS. ON THIS MATTER. I WILL JUST SAY I AM A RESIDENT OF THIS

[1:55:58] CITY. I'M AN ELECTED LEADER OF THIS CITY. AND TO ME, THE

[1:56:06] REPUTATIONAL RISK THAT IS INCURRED BY THIS INSTITUTION WHEN IT APPEARS THAT THIS

[1:56:13] INSTITUTION IS AIDING THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IN DEMONIZING

[1:56:21] THIS COMMUNITY IS SUBSTANTIAL. IT IS SUBSTANTIAL, AND LIKE SHOULD BE AVOIDED AT ALL COSTS

[1:56:29] IF WE CAN EVER HELP IT. SHOULD BE AVOIDED AT ALL COSTS. WE WANT

[1:56:35] OUR RESIDENTS WHEN THEY'RE EXPERIENCING CRISIS TO CALL 911.

[1:56:40] THEY'RE NOT GOING TO WHEN THEY BELIEVE THAT WILL RESULT IN FEDERAL ACTION OF ANY TYPE. BUT

[1:56:47] IN PARTICULAR, FEDERAL ACTION AROUND THEIR IMMIGRATION STATUS

[1:56:52] OR THEIR NEIGHBOR'S IMMIGRATION STATUS COULD BE FURTHER -- MPD

[1:56:58] OFTEN WHEN IN COMMUNITY SAYS NO, PLEASE CALL 911 WHEN YOU'RE IN A MOMENT OF EMERGENCY BECAUSE

[1:57:04] PEOPLE OPT OUT OF DOING SO FOR SEVERAL REASONS. AND SO I REALLY

[1:57:11] WANTED TO MAKE MENTION OF THAT RISK, THAT REPUTATIONAL RISK, THAT LITERAL RISK THAT THIS

[1:57:17] INSTITUTION INCURS BY SEEMINGLY, NOT ACTUALLY, RIGHT? BECAUSE THIS REPORT SAYS OTHERWISE.

[1:57:23] SEEMINGLY AIDING A DEMONIC FEDERAL ADMINISTRATION.

[1:57:31] >> CHAIR CHAVEZ, COULD I FOLLOW UP ON THAT? >> YES, PLEASE. >> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER CHUGHTAI, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

[1:57:37] AND REALLY WHAT I JUST WANTED TO SAY IS THANK YOU FOR BRINGING A

[1:57:44] CONVERSATION FORWARD ABOUT THE SEPARATION ORDINANCE. CLEARLY THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT

[1:57:49] ARE INTERESTED IN CONTRIBUTING TO THAT CONVERSATION. I HOPE THE INFORMATION IN THIS REPORT ALSO HELPS CONTRIBUTE TO THOSE

[1:57:56] DELIBERATIONS. AND IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE TO FOLLOW UP WITH OUR OFFICE IF YOU

[1:58:01] WANT ADDITIONAL DETAIL, OR EVEN A SITDOWN CONVERSATION. >> THANK YOU. WE HAVE ANOTHER PERSON ON QUEUE. >> I TRIED.

[1:58:09] >> ALMOST THERE. >> HOPEFULLY I'LL BE THE LAST, CHAIR CHAVEZ. I JUST WANTED TO

[1:58:15] EXPAND THE CONTEXT HERE JUST A LITTLE BIT. KIND OF IN KEEPING WITH THE ROLE OF AUDIT. AUDIT'S

[1:58:21] JOB ISN'T JUST TO DO THESE INVESTIGATIONS OF INDIVIDUAL

[1:58:28] INCIDENTS. BUT OFTENTIMES WILL TO HIGHLIGHT BROADER -- I

[1:58:33] COULDN'T HELP MYSELF BUT TO GO BACK TO THE AFTER ACTION REVIEW FROM THE GEORGE FLOYD UPRISING.

[1:58:39] AND WE ARE -- I WANT TO GIVE OUR COMMUNITY TIME TO SPEAK SO I'M NOT GOING TO READ IT VERBATIM.

[1:58:45] BUT ESSENTIALLY HIGHLIGHTS THE EXACT SAME PROBLEMS. FAILURE TO COMMUNICATE BY OFFICIALS. THE

[1:58:51] COMMUNITY LEFT IN THE VOID. COUNCIL MEMBERS LEFT IN THE VOID. THE COMMUNITY HAVING TO

[1:58:57] CREATE INFORMAL CHANNELS TO COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER TO KEEP EACH OTHER SAFE. THAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. THERE ARE

[1:59:04] ORGANIC, YOU KNOW, TEXT CHAT GROUPS WHERE RAPID RESPONSE IS

[1:59:11] HAPPENING IN THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE THEIR GOVERNMENT IS FAILING TO MEET THIS MOMENT RIGHT NOW, AND OUR COMMUNITY IS MEETING THIS MOMENT. THESE WERE

[1:59:17] THINGS THAT WERE HIGHLIGHTED FIVE YEARS AGO. AND WE SPENT THE BETTER PART OF OUR FIRST TERM IN

[1:59:23] OFFICE LEARNING ABOUT ALL OF THE NEW TRAININGS AND NEW LEARNINGS THAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE

[1:59:28] APPLYING FROM THAT AFTER ACTION REVIEW. AND I COULDN'T HELP BUT CONNECT THAT TO JANUARY 3RD. I

[1:59:35] COULDN'T HELP BUT CONNECT THAT TO THE ASSASSINATION OF MELISSA

[1:59:47] HORTMAN. I'VE BEEN LEFT IN THE DARK. I'VE BEEN LEARNING ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE GROUND

[1:59:53] EITHER THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA OR THROUGH MY COLLEAGUES HAVING THE COURAGE TO GO OUT TO THE

[1:59:59] FRONTLINES OR HAVING MYSELF TO GO OUT TO THE FRONT LINES. SO THE AUDITOR STARTED THIS

[2:00:04] PRESENTATION WITH A HOPE THAT WE'RE GOING T COME TOGETHER AND CHANGE. AND WE ARE FIVE YEARS

[2:00:11] BEYOND THE MURDER OF GEORGE FLOYD, AND I AM STILL SEEING A FAILURE OF THIS ADMINISTRATION

[2:00:16] AND THIS INSTITUTION TO ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO RESPOND IN A MOMENT OF CRISIS AND CENTER OUR COMMUNITY. AND I JUST REALLY

[2:00:24] WANTED TO SHARE THAT. AND SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ON THIS TIMELINE IS JUNE 1ST, AND THAT

[2:00:31] WAS THE DAY OF THE MASS SHOOTING ON BOOM ISLAND. AND I HAVE A REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING WITH

[2:00:36] THE POLICE CHIEF, AND I MET WITH HIM THAT MONDAY, AND WE WERE BOTH, YOU KNOW, RECANTING THE

[2:00:44] JUST TERROR OF THAT NIGHT. AND HE WAS ACTUALLY EXPRESSING HIS FRUSTRATION WITH WHAT IS NOW

[2:00:50] KNOWN PUBLICLY WHICH WAS WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE STARTING THE SAFER SUMMER INITIATIVE THAT

[2:00:56] MONDAY, WHICH WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A COLLABORATION WITH LAW

[2:01:01] ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES. ALL THESE PARTNERS WERE GETTING PULLED OFF OF THESE TYPES OF KIND OF WHAT

[2:01:07] WE CONSIDER CRIME INVESTIGATIONS AND BEING REDIRECTED TOWARDS PRIORITIZING IMMIGRATION

[2:01:13] ENFORCEMENT AND THAT WAS BRINGING DAMAGE TO THE SAFER SUMMER INITIATIVE. WE KNOW THAT NOW BECAUSE ALL OF THOSE LAW

[2:01:19] ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES HAVE BEEN BRAGGING HOW MUCH THEY'RE REDIRECTING THOSE RESOURCES TOWARDS IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT.

[2:01:26] I BOTH DISAGREE AND AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON THAT LIKE YOU KNOW, WE DON'T NEED THAT

[2:01:33] LONG OF A CONVERSATION TO SAY WE NEED TO IMPROVE COMMUNICATION. WE DO NEED TO HAVE SOME RIGOR TO

[2:01:38] THAT COMMUNICATION THOUGH AND SOME ACTUAL CLEAR PROTOCOLS AND GUIDELINES ON WHO CALLS WHEN WITH WHAT INFORMATION. AND I

[2:01:44] THINK THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE CLARIFIED. AND I DO THINK IT IS BENEFICIAL THAT WE UPDATE OUR

[2:01:51] SEPARATION ORDINANCE. I THINK THIS REPORT GIVES US SOME REALLY CLEAR THINGS TO CONSIDER IN THAT. AND I THINK THAT IS GOING

[2:01:57] TO BE THE WORK THAT WE HAVE TO DO GOING FORWARD. THAT IS THE LEGISLATIVE WORK OF THIS BODY. BUT THAT WORK OF REPAIRING

[2:02:03] COMMUNICATION AND NOT LEAVING OUR COMMUNITY IN THE DARK, THAT HAS TO HAPPEN WITH THE

[2:02:09] ADMINISTRATION. WE CAN'T DO THAT INDEPENDENTLY AS A GOVERNING BODY. AND SO I'M REALLY HOPING THAT WE ALL TAKE AWAY THE NEED

[2:02:19] TO REALLY PUT SOME RIGOR BEHIND THAT EFFORT GOING FORWARD. SO THANK YOU, MR. TIMMERMAN.

[2:02:26] >> THANK YOU, CITY AUDITOR. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. I'LL MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE

[2:02:34] THAT UPDATE. NOW WE WILL GO ON TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION OF

[2:02:40] OUR AGENDA. THIS PUBLIC COMMENT IS COMMITTED TO THE CITY'S ROLE IN MATTERS AND THE CITY'S

[2:02:47] SEPARATION ORDINANCE. I WANT TO OFFER A FEW FRIENDLY REMINDERS. BEFORE THE PUBLIC SHARES THEIR

[2:02:53] STATEMENTS, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THAT THIS MEETING IS BEING RECORDED. THIS MEANS THAT THE COMMENTS YOU

[2:02:59] MAKE CAN BE SEEN AND HEARD NOT JUST BY THE PEOPLE IN THIS SPACE AND IN THIS ROOM, BUT BY ANYONE

[2:03:04] WHO IS WATCHING TODAY OR WHO MAY ACCESS THIS RECORDING ON A LATER DATE. WE WANT OUR COMMUNITY

[2:03:10] MEMBERS TO BE SAFE, INCLUDING PEOPLE WHO COME AND SHARE THEIR OPINIONS WITH US IN COMMITTEE

[2:03:15] MEETINGS. INFORMATION ABOUT IMMIGRATION STATUS IS VERY PERSONAL, AND THE CITY SEPARATION ORDINANCE STATES THAT

[2:03:21] CITY EMPLOYEES CANNOT ASK ABOUT A PERSON'S IMMIGRATION STATUS. AS YOU PREPARE TO SPEAK, PLEASE

[2:03:28] REMEMBER THAT ANYTHING YOU SHARE IS PUBLIC INFORMATION AND MAY BE AVAILABLE NOW AND IN THE FUTURE BY ANYONE. EACH SPEAKER WILL GET

[2:03:34] TWO MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE. SPEAKERS WITH TRANSLATORS GET FOUR MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE. WE HAVE

[2:03:40] SPANISH AND SOMALIAN INTERPRETERS AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC TESTIMONY IF NEEDED. THEY

[2:03:46] ARE LOCATED IN THE OVERFLOW ROOM. WE ALSO ACCEPT WRITTEN OR TYPED COMMENTS SENT TO US. THE

[2:03:52] FORM IS ONLINE AND CAN BE FOUND BY GOING TO

[2:03:59] MINNEAPOLISMN.GOV/PUBLICCOMMENT. AND WITH THAT, I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.

[2:04:08] THE FIRST FIVE SPEAKERS ARE

[2:04:15] MIGUEL, LIZ, MANA, SALLY, NUMBER

[2:04:21] FIVE IS A NAME WITH A Y. I CAN'T READ THE REST IT'S CURSIVE.

[2:04:28] FIRST UP, MIGUEL. WELCOME. >> HELLO, COUNCIL. MY NAME IS

[2:04:37] MIGUEL HERNANDEZ, I'M A RESIDENT OF WARD 12 AND A BUSINESS OWNER IN WARD 10. I'M HERE DEEPLY,

[2:04:46] DEEPLY DISAPPOINTED WITH HOW THIS COUNCIL AND MPD AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE ACTED ON JUNE 3RD. I WAS THERE ON

[2:04:52] JUNE 3RD. I LIVE IN THAT WARD. WHAT I SAW THERE WAS POLICE

[2:04:59] EAGER TO HELP FEDERAL AGENCIES, EAGER. BEFORE THIS TIMELINE,

[2:05:08] SUPPOSED FACTUAL TIMELINE, I SAW MYSELF THERE POLICE SPEAKING

[2:05:14] WITH FEDERAL AGENTS. AUDIT IS CORRECT IN ONE WAY, MPD AND THE

[2:05:20] MAYOR LEFT CITY COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC IN THE DARK. THAT IS UNACCEPTABLE. THE MAYOR KNEW FIRST AND DID NOTHING FOR FOUR

[2:05:27] HOURS. AND THEN SHOWED UP THE NEXT DAY. HE SHOWED UP AND TRIED

[2:05:34] TO GASLIGHT A COMMUNITY WHO SAW TANKS ON THEIR STREET LIKE NOTHING HAPPENED. PUBLIC DIDN'T

[2:05:43] ESCALATE THE MILITARIZED POLICE, THE FEDERAL AGENTS. THEY SHOWED UP WITH RIFLES AND TANKS. WHAT

[2:05:50] COULD YOU BRING TO ESCALATE THAT? PEOPLE? SHOUTING.

[2:05:56] THEY SHOWED UP WITH TANKS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. I ASKED THE

[2:06:03] COUNCIL TO PUT THEIR PRIVILEGES ASIDE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO REACT. WE HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

[2:06:08] PEOPLE GET TAKEN IN FIVE MINUTES. THEY'RE GONE. FAMILY MEMBERS. COMMUNITY MEMBERS. I

[2:06:14] ASK THIS COUNCIL TO DO BETTER. OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS CREATING CHAOS IN OUR

[2:06:19] COMMUNITIES, IN IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES. IF OUR LEADERS DON'T STEP UP LIKE THEY FAILED

[2:06:25] TO DO ON JUNE 3RD, WELL SOME OF YOU STEPPED UP, THANK YOU. THE PEOPLE WILL STEP UP. IT WILL

[2:06:30] HAPPEN AGAIN. IT'S NOT IF OR WHEN. WE WILL SHOW UP. THANK YOU.

[2:06:35] >> THANK YOU. NEXT UP WE HAVE ELIZABETH, NUMBER TWO.

[2:06:46] >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS LIZ AND I'M A RESIDENT OF WARD 10 AND A

[2:06:52] MEMBER OF THE MINNESOTA IMMIGRANT RIGHTS ACTION COMMITTEE. I WANT TO SPEAK ON A

[2:07:02] TRUE SANCTUARY CITY. NO INFORMATION SHARING BETWEEN LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AND FEDERAL AGENCIES, NO LOCAL LAW

[2:07:08] ENFORCEMENT DOING CROWD CONTROL FOR FEDERAL AGENCIES, NO IDENTITY CONCEALMENT FOR FEDERAL AGENTS IN OUR CITY, AND REAL

[2:07:16] CONSEQUENCES FOR VIOLATIONS OF THE SEPARATION ORDINANCE. MAYOR FREY AND CHIEF O'HARA HAVE SUGGESTED THAT CITIZEN OBSERVERS

[2:07:22] AND NON-VIOLENT PROTESTORS WHO SHOWED UP TO THE SCENE ON JUNE 3RD SPREAD FEAR AND

[2:07:28] MISINFORMATION BY ACTING AS THOUGH THIS WAS AN ICE RAID. I WAS PRESENT ON JUNE 3RD AS A CITIZEN OBSERVER, AND WE

[2:07:36] WITNESSED WITH OUR OWN EYES AND DOCUMENTED WITH OUR OWN CAMERAS THAT ICE WAS PRESENT. THERE WAS

[2:07:41] NOTHING THAT PREVENTS ICE FROM MAKING COLLATERAL ARRESTS OF ANY

[2:07:46] UNDOCUMENTED COMMUNITY MEMBER THEY CHOOSE. SO FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE COMMUNITY, IT IS PERFECTLY RATIONAL TO TREAT

[2:07:54] ANY FEDERAL RAID WITH ICE PRESENT AS AN ICE RAID. FURTHER,

[2:08:02] MAYOR FREY CLAIMED -- BUT WE WITNESSED POLICE DOING CROWD CONTROL AND HANDING FEDERAL

[2:08:07] AGENTS TAPE TO BLOCK OFF THE SCENE. WE NEED ANSWERS. EITHER THAT VIOLATES THE EXISTING

[2:08:13] SEPARATION ORDINANCE, IN WHICH CASE WE DEMAND CONSEQUENCES FOR THAT COLLUSION, OR ELSE IT

[2:08:19] DOESN'T, IN WHICH CASE WE DEMAND A STRONGER SEPARATION ORDINANCE. WE WILL NOT REST UNTIL WE CAN

[2:08:26] CALL MINNEAPOLIS A TRUE SANCTUARY CITY. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. NEXT UP WE HAVE

[2:08:31] MANAL P. WELCOME.

[2:08:39] >> THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS MARIA PENRES, AND I LIVE IN WARD

[2:08:46] 10. I'M ALSO A MEMBER OF MIRAK. I WAS PRESENT AT LAKE AND

[2:08:54] BLOOMINGTON ON JUNE 3RD AS AN OBSERVER WHERE A WITNESSED ICE AGENTS IN A TERRIFYING FORCE.

[2:09:04] OTHERS PRESENT WITNESSED MPD ENGAGING IN CROWD CONTROL AND

[2:09:09] PROVIDING POLICE TAPE TO FEDERAL AGENTS. -- I WOULD LIKE TO

[2:09:17] DEMAND THE IMMEDIATE RELEASE OF ANY 911 CALL TRANSCRIPTS THAT BROUGHT POLICE TO THE SCENE AT

[2:09:24] LAKE AND BLOOMINGTON ON JUNE 3RD. I WAS ALSO PRESENT AT THE SEPARATION ORDINANCE HEARING

[2:09:29] ON JUNE 23RD WHERE MPD GAVE A BIG PRESENTATION ABOUT THE

[2:09:34] DEPARTMENT'S INVOLVEMENT IN THE CITY'S SEPARATION ORDINANCE. IN THIS PRESENTATION, ASSISTANT

[2:09:42] CHIEF OF COMMUNITY TRUST GAITERS -- SEVERAL BARRIERS TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE SEPARATION

[2:09:48] ORDINANCE SPECIFICALLY THAT A CRITICAL NUMBER OF MPD TRAINEES DO NOT UNDERSTAND THAT AN

[2:09:53] INDIVIDUAL'S IMMIGRATION STATUS IS NOT PROBABLE CAUSE. THIS IS EXTREMELY CONCERNING. IT IS

[2:10:00] CLEAR THAT THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS NEEDS A STRONGER SEPARATION ORDINANCE WITH CLEAR EXTERNAL MEASURES OF ACCOUNTABILITY FOR MPD. AS A

[2:10:08] MEMBER OF MIRAK, I'M HERE TO DEMAND THE CITY TAKE MEASURES OF

[2:10:15] REAL SANCTUARY NOW. FEDERAL AGENTS MUST PRESENT IDENTIFICATION, AND THERE MUST BE REAL CONSEQUENCES FOR LOCAL

[2:10:21] LAW ENFORCEMENT FOUND TO BE IN VIOLATION OF THE SEPARATION ORDINANCE. THANK YOU.

[2:10:27] >> THANK YOU. NEXT UP WE HAVE SALLY LEIBERMAN.

[2:10:37] >> THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. I'M SALLY LEIBERMAN, WARD 12. I'M HERE AS

[2:10:44] AN INDIVIDUAL TO SUPPORT MIRAK'S DEMANDS TODAY. I WAS PART OF THE

[2:10:51] COALITION THAT BROUGHT THE SEPARATION ORDINANCE BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL IN 2003. PART OF

[2:10:57] THE CONTEXT AT THAT TIME WAS THAT THERE HAD BEEN -- THERE WAS A VAST EXPANSION OF THE FEDERAL

[2:11:04] CAPACITY FOR POLICING AND SURVEILLANCE AT THAT TIME UNDER

[2:11:10] WHAT WAS CALLED THE USA PATRIOT ACT. AND PASSING THE ORDINANCE

[2:11:18] DIDN'T JUST HAPPEN. IT TOOK SOME HARD WORK TO CONVINCE THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AT THAT TIME THAT IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO

[2:11:26] DO. FORTUNATELY, THE COUNCIL MEMBERS CHOSE TO LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY. AND I BELIEVE MINNEAPOLIS HAS BEEN, ALTHOUGH

[2:11:32] THINGS AS WE KNOW ARE FAR FROM PERFECT, A BETTER AND SAFER CITY

[2:11:38] FOR HAVING THAT ORDINANCE IN PLACE. WE ARE NOW FACING NEW

[2:11:47] UNPRECEDENTED CHALLENGES FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND IT IS CLEAR THAT WE NEED TO STRENGTHEN OUR ORDINANCE. I WANT TO SAY

[2:11:55] LISTENING TO THE REPORT TODAY, SOMETHING I FOUND VERY DISTURBING IS I BELIEVE THERE WAS A SUBTEXT THAT THE REASON

[2:12:00] THE CITY NEEDS TO COMMUNICATE BETTER AND RESPOND BETTER IS

[2:12:06] BECAUSE THERE MIGHT BE CIVIL UNREST. THAT IS NOT WHAT THIS ORDINANCE IS ABOUT. THIS IS

[2:12:13] ABOUT SITUATIONS WHERE THERE IS A SERIOUS THREAT OF CIVIL HARM. HARM TO THE RIGHTS, THE SAFETY,

[2:12:20] THE DIGNITY, AND THE PERSONS OF OUR IMMIGRANT NEIGHBORS. THAT IS

[2:12:25] THE THREAT. I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT I WAS AT LAKE AND

[2:12:31] BLOOMINGTON ON JUNE 3RD, AND I WAS NOT THERE BECAUSE OF

[2:12:37] MISINFORMATION. A LOT OF THINGS WERE NOT CLEAR AT THAT TIME, BUT WHAT I KNEW WAS ICE WAS THERE,

[2:12:45] ARMORED VEHICLES WERE THERE. >> THANK YOU. >> ARMED FEDERAL AGENTS WERE THERE AND THAT WAS ALL I NEEDED TO KNOW TO BE THERE. THANK YOU

[2:12:52] VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. NEXT UP WE HAVE YAN, THEN JULIA, AND THEN

[2:13:00] SOPHIE, SASHA AND KELLY. SO HI.

[2:13:05] >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL MEMBERS, MY NAME IS YAN CHEN. I'M ALSO A MEMBER OF MIRAK.

[2:13:10] HOWEVER, I WANT TO ADDRESS SOME THINGS THAT I WITNESSED AS AN INDIVIDUAL PRIVATE CITIZEN ON

[2:13:15] JUNE 3RD. WHEN I ARRIVED AT NOON AT LAKE AND BLOOMINGTON, MASKED

[2:13:21] AGENTS WEARING ICE AND HSI UNIFORMS WERE PRESENT. THE FEDERAL AGENTS WERE THERE IN

[2:13:27] MILITARIZED COMBAT YEAR AND --

[2:13:33] COMBAT GEAR AND ARMORED

[2:13:38] VEHICLES. -- IT WAS DEEPLY UNSETTLING TO READ CITY OFFICIALS, INCLUDING MAYOR FREY

[2:13:45] AND CHIEF O'HARA, DIRECTLY CONTRADICT THE INNUMERABLE

[2:13:52] EYEWITNESS ACCOUNTS AND VIDEOS. I LISTENED TO ASSISTANT CHIEF GAITERS GIVE A PRESENTATION LACKING IN ANY DETAIL. WHO IS

[2:13:59] ERODING THE PUBLIC'S TRUST IN LAW ENFORCEMENT? THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE AFFECTED COMMUNITIES, FREQUENT THE

[2:14:04] BUSINESSES AND WITNESS THE EVENTS FROM START TO FINISH? OR STATE ACTORS WHO BLAME US TO

[2:14:10] SAVE FACE? AS A MEMBER OF MIRAK,

[2:14:20] I DEMAND -- INCLUDING THE OBSERVED HANDING OF POLICE TAPE AND COMMUNICATING INFORMATION IN

[2:14:26] CASUAL CONVERSATION. NO CROWD CONTROL BECAUSE I AND OTHERS WERE FORCIBLY MOVED. BUT MPD WAS

[2:14:33] NOT REMOVING THE FEDS -- NO COVER UPS BECAUSE LAW

[2:14:39] ENFORCEMENT SHOULD IDENTIFY THEMSELVES TO CIVILIANS, AND YET IN THE CITY, WE HAVE OPERATIONS OF A SECRET STATE POLICE. IN

[2:14:46] GERMAN, THAT TRANSLATES LITERALLY AS. ( SPEAKING GERMAN )

[2:14:54] OR GESTAPO. WE NEED OFFICIALS WHO ACT IN BENEFIT TO AGENTS. ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO INVALIDATE

[2:15:00] EXPERIENCES OF PEOPLE. THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ALWAYS THERE FIRST AND WILL BE THERE LONG

[2:15:05] AFTER LAW ENFORCEMENT HAS LEFT. THANK YOU. >> NEXT UP WE HAVE JULIA, AND

[2:15:11] I'LL REMIND THE PUBLIC BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO SIGNED UP TO PLEASE KEEP IT TO TWO MINUTES. IF YOU GO OVER FIVE

[2:15:21] SECONDS, BUT IF YOU GO OVER, I'LL CUT YOU OFF. >> IN REGARDS IF WE WANT POLICE

[2:15:29] TO BE PRESENT DURING ICE OPERATIONS, THE ANSWER IS NO. I AM A TEACHER AND RECENTLY WE ALL

[2:15:35] RECEIVED AN AMBER ALERT OF A YOUNG GIRL WHO IS MISSING. THAT

[2:15:40] IS MY STUDENT. HER NAME IS VICTORIA JACKSON. WE NEED POLICE

[2:15:46] TO BE LOOKING FOR MISSING KIDS. WE DON'T NEED POLICE TO BE DISAPPEARING PARENTS. IN THE LAST MONTHS, WE HAVE OBSERVED

[2:15:54] FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AND MILITARY FORCES BEING USED TO

[2:16:00] CRUSH DISSENT -- HSI AND ICE ARE

[2:16:07] DISAPPEARING OUR NEIGHBORS BEFORE OUR EYES WITH NO ACCOUNTABILITY. HARASS AND

[2:16:12] ASSAULT ANYONE WHO STANDS AGAINST THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S CAMPAIGN OF FEAR. NOW MORE THAN

[2:16:18] EVER IT'S CRUCIAL THAT MINNEAPOLIS' SEPARATION ORDINANCE FUNCTIONS TO ENSURE THAT OUR LOCAL POLICE DO NOT

[2:16:25] BECOME ANOTHER TOOL TO INSTILL FEAR IN OUR COMMUNITIES. BUT ON JUNE 3RD, WE SAW THAT MPD AND

[2:16:32] HENNEPIN COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, THEY'RE ALL TOO READY TOO ASSIST THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN SHOWING THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT TO

[2:16:38] WHOMEVER THEY WANT, WHENEVER THEY WANT IN OUR CITIES. THEY SHOWED UP WITH WEAPONS OF WAR.

[2:16:43] THEY HID THEIR FACES. THEY BRUTALIZED PROTESTORS. AND MANY REFUSED TO ANSWER THE COMMUNITY

[2:16:49] WHO SHOWED UP TO DEMAND ACCOUNTABILITY FROM THEM. MPD

[2:16:54] AND CHIEF O'HARA FOUGHT THE VERY PEOPLE THEY'RE SWORN TO SERVE AND PROTECT, SO THEY CAN INSTEAD

[2:17:01] SIDE WITH THE GUNMEN INVADING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE DEMAND THAT MAYOR FREY HOLD MPD AND CHIEF

[2:17:09] O'HARA ACCOUNTABLE. WE CONDEMN THE USE OF VIOLENCE AND WEAPONS OF WAR AGAINST OUR NEIGHBORS

[2:17:15] STANDING UP TO THE HORRORS OF THIS NIGHTMARISH TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. THANK YOU. AND

[2:17:20] PLEASE HELP US FIND VICTORIA. >> THANK YOU. NEXT UP WE HAVE

[2:17:27] SOPHIE BRENE. AND SASHA, NUMBER

[2:17:33] 8, KELLY, NUMBER 9. AARON, NUMBER 10. >> HELLO, MY NAME IS SOPHIE

[2:17:42] BRENE AND I'M RESIDENT OF WARD

[2:17:47] 8. I'M SO PROUD OF EVERY PERSON WHO STOOD UP AND SAID THIS IS NOT RIGHT. I'M SO PROUD OF THE

[2:17:55] CITY EMPLOYEES WHO CARE SO DEEPLY FOR OUR COMMUNITY. THEY'VE DEDICATED THEIR LIVES TO

[2:18:00] IMPROVE IT AND THEY KNOW HOW TO STAND UP IN SUPPORT OF IT. TODAY WE ARE HERE TO DEMAND REAL

[2:18:08] SANCTUARY NOW. WE SAW MPD WORKING WITH FEDERAL AGENCIES. WE HAVE THE PICTURES OF THEM

[2:18:16] HANDING OFF THE TAPE. WE HAVE PICTURES OF THEM TALKING. WE ARE DEMANDING THAT THERE'S NO

[2:18:23] COLLUSION. THAT THERE'S NO CROWD CONTROL FROM MPD SUPPORTING OF ICE, HSI OR OTHER FEDERAL

[2:18:29] AGENCIES, INCLUDING SUPPORTIVE ROLES. AND WE DEMAND THERE ARE REAL CONSEQUENCES. WE SAW THEM THERE ON JUNE 3RD, AND IT IS

[2:18:36] REALLY IMPORTANT THAT THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES FOR THIS. WE FOUGHT HARD TO MAKE MINNEAPOLIS A

[2:18:42] SANCTUARY CITY. THE EVENTS THAT TOOK PLACE ON JUNE 3RD SHOWED THE COMMUNITY THAT THE MAYOR'S

[2:18:48] UNABLE TO UPHOLD HIS PROMISE OF SAFETY FOR CITY'S RESIDENTS. THIS NEEDS TO CHANGE NOW. THE

[2:18:57] IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY IS UNDER ATTACK, AND MIRAC IS READY TO STAND UP AND FIGHT BACK.

[2:19:06] SANCTUARY FOR REAL NOW. >> THANK YOU. NEXT UP WE HAVE SASHA. WELCOME.

[2:19:16] >> MY NAME IS SASHA, I'M A RESIDENT OF WARD 12, AND I HAVE BEEN A NATURALIZED CITIZEN IN

[2:19:26] MINNESOTA FOR 50-PLUS YEARS. I REPRESENT MYSELF AND I WAS AT LAKE AND BLOOMINGTON ON JUNE 3RD. IT IS NOT NORMAL THAT

[2:19:31] PEOPLE ARE HIDING THEIR FACES AROUND ICE, BORDER PATROL, AND

[2:19:40] HOMELAND SECURITY BADGES. -- OFF THE STREETS, IN SCHOOLS, IN HOSPITALS, IN THEIR HOMES OR AT

[2:19:45] THEIR IMMIGRATION COURT APPOINTMENTS. IT'S NOT NORMAL THAT THE PEOPLE ARE BEING DENIED

[2:19:51] HUMAN AND LEGAL RIGHTS. IT IS NOT NORMAL THAT STATE AND CITY

[2:19:56] OFFICIALS AND LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENTS ARE JOINING THESE UNJUST ACTIVITIES, INCLUDING

[2:20:02] ALLOWING HEAVILY ARMED MILITARY VEHICLES AND GEAR INTO OTHERWISE PEACEFUL NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE

[2:20:07] OURS, AND NOT PROVIDING FULL TRANSPARENCY. IT IS NOT NORMAL THAT POLICE DEPARTMENTS AROUND

[2:20:13] THE NATION ARE USING EXCESSIVE FORCE AND CAUSING SERIOUS

[2:20:18] INJURIES OR ARRESTING THEM WITH NO JUST CAUSE, AND YET IT IS HAPPENING. THIS IS FASCISM. AND

[2:20:24] I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT OUR CITY COUNCIL WHAT THEY'RE DOING AS FAR AS STRENGTHENING OUR SEPARATION ORDINANCE, AND THEIR

[2:20:30] COMMITMENT TO ALL OF THE CONSTITUENTS. AS WE CAN SEE FROM TODAY'S REPORT AND A RECENT

[2:20:36] PUBLIC SAFETY MEETING WITH 911 AND MINNEAPOLIS POLICE DEPARTMENT HELD IN WARD 12, IT

[2:20:41] IS CLEARLY NOT GOING TO BE ENOUGH. ESPECIALLY WHEN FACTS

[2:20:46] AND TRUTH ARE BEING QUESTIONED. FACTS LIKE WE KNOW THE OWNER OF

[2:20:53] LAS KWATRAS WAS ARRESTED AND HELD IN ICE DETENTION FOR TWO

[2:20:59] WEEKS. THIS IS FACT NOT EMOTION. IT IS UP TO US, THE RESIDENTS, TO BE UNCOMFORTABLE, TO TAKE

[2:21:06] RISKS, TO BE PREPARED, TO LEARN HOW TO DOCUMENT FOR ACCOUNTABILITY, TO SHOW UP AND TO BE UNITED. IT'S GOING TO TAKE

[2:21:13] US TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY FROM AN EVEN MORE INCOMPREHENSIBLE LEVEL OF

[2:21:18] INJUSTICE. WHEN YOU SEE ICE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, IN THE

[2:21:24] SCHOOLS, IN THE HOSPITALS, WHAT ARE YOU WILLING TO DO TO FIGHT FOR DEMOCRACY, ITS CONSTITUTION,

[2:21:32] CIVIL RIGHTS AND OUR COMMUNITY. >> THANK YOU. NEXT UP WE HAVE KELLY ALLEN. WELCOME.

[2:21:43] >> HELLO. MY NAME IS AL. I'M READING THIS ON BEHALF OF KELLY WHO HAD TO LEAVE. I'M IN WARD 9.

[2:21:50] I'M AN ORGANIZER WITH THE MINNESOTA IMMIGRANT RIGHTS ACTION COMMITTEE, OR MIRAC AND A

[2:21:57] MINNEAPOLIS RESIDENT. I WANT IT SEE MINNEAPOLIS EXPAND AND --

[2:22:06] ICE'S INTEGRATION ENFORCEMENT IN MINNEAPOLIS DESTROYS OUR COMMUNITIES AND AFFECTS ALL OF

[2:22:11] US. THE CRUELNESS OF FAMILY SEPARATION CAUSES NEEDLESS SUFFERING. KIDS ARE LEFT WITHOUT

[2:22:17] PARENTS, IMMIGRANT OWNED BUSINESSES ARE ABRUPTLY CLOSED, AND PEOPLE ARE DETAINED AND

[2:22:25] DEPORTED WHERE THEY CANNOT ACCESS THE NEED FOR MEDICAL CARE. I WAS DEEPLY DISAPPOINTED

[2:22:33] AND DISTURBED WHEN I SAW HOW MINNEAPOLIS POLICE ASSIST -- THAT TRUMP HAS AUTHORIZED TO

[2:22:39] CARRY OUT IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT. EVEN WORSE, MINNEAPOLIS POLICE JUMPED INTO THIS RAID THAT TOOK PLACE ON

[2:22:44] LAKE STREET WHERE A SHORT FIVE YEARS AGO THEY GARNERED SHAME FROM ACROSS THE WORLD FOR

[2:22:49] BRUTALIZING PROTESTORS. I WANT TO SEE AN IMMEDIATE END TO THE

[2:22:57] VIOLATE CONTROL TACTICS -- COLLABORATION WITH ICE DOES NOTHING TO INCREASE COMMUNITY

[2:23:03] TRUST IN LAW ENFORCEMENT. MINNEAPOLIS MUST ADHERE TO ITS SEPARATION ORDINANCE AND STOP COLLUDING WITH FEDERAL

[2:23:09] IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS. WE DEMAND TRANSPARENCY ABOUT HOW MINNEAPOLIS POLICE HAVE WORKED

[2:23:15] WITH ICE. WE WANT TO SEE REAL CONSEQUENCES, CONSEQUENCES,

[2:23:21] INCLUDING PUNITIVE MEASURES FOR POLICE. I JUST WANT TO ADD FOR

[2:23:26] MY OWN WORDS SINCE I HAVE 20 SECONDS LEFT. I WANT TO ADDRESS SOMETHING PALMISANO SAID WHEN SHE THREW HER OTHER COWORKERS

[2:23:33] UNDER THE BUS SAYING THEY ADDED TO THE CONFUSION AND THAT THEY ADDED TO THE LACK OF SAFETY FOR

[2:23:38] BEING OUT ON THE STREETS WITH US AS PROTESTORS. I WANT TO SAY THAT'S BS AND YOU SHOULD BE

[2:23:46] ASHAMED YOURSELF. >> LET'S PLEASE BE RESPECTFUL WHEN TESTIFYING. NEXT UP WE HAVE

[2:23:53] AARON S. STEVE, S-T-E AND THEN

[2:24:06] WE CAN'T READ THE REST. WELCOME. >> HELLO, MY NAME IS ERIN

[2:24:15] STENIE. I'M A PROUD RESIDENT WHO RECENTLY MOVED. I'M HERE AS A MEMBER OF MIRAC. I THINK A LOT

[2:24:21] OF THE POINTS THAT I WAS PLANNING TO MAKE HAVE BEEN MADE. AND SO I'M GOING TO MAKE SOME

[2:24:27] OTHER POINTS. SO I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT THE MPD DID NOT

[2:24:33] OFFICIALLY VIOLATE THE ORDINANCE. WHAT THAT TELLS ME IS THAT THE ORDINANCE IS SEVERELY

[2:24:39] LACKING, BUT ALSO THAT IF THAT IS THE RESULT OF THESE PAGES,

[2:24:47] ONE OF MY BIGGEST CONCERNS IS HOW DEHUMANIZING THIS IS TO HAVE THIS PACKET OF INFORMATION THAT

[2:24:53] IS FOCUSED ON AN ORDINANCE THAT WE'VE KIND OF ESTABLISHED ISN'T SUPER EFFECTIVE RATHER THAN THE

[2:25:02] IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY OR THE IMPACT IN TRUST IN MINNEAPOLIS

[2:25:07] POLICE DEPARTMENT. I THINK THAT'S A LOT MORE RELEVANT,

[2:25:12] ESPECIALLY AFTER ALL THESE REPORTS THAT HAVE COME FROM OTHER TRAGEDIES. I ALSO THINK

[2:25:20] THAT -- WELL ACTUALLY LET'S GO WITH THIS. SO I'M NOT SURE IF MANY OF YOU HAVE WIBEEN TO A KN

[2:25:29] YOUR RIGHTS TRAINING BEFORE, ESPECIALLY AROUND IMMIGRATION. FOR THOSE WHO HAVEN'T, AND ESPECIALLY WHO IDENTIFY AS WHITE

[2:25:35] LIKE MYSELF, I THOUGHT THAT I KNEW WHAT TO EXPECT GOING IN. AND WHAT I NEED YOU TO KNOW IS

[2:25:44] THAT THE KNOW YOUR RIGHTS TRAINING BECAME THIS IS WHAT

[2:25:54] HAPPENED -- WRIST AS A BRACELET IN CASE YOU DON'T COME HOME. SO IF YOU DON'T HAVE EMPATHY FOR

[2:26:01] YOUR CONSTITUENTS WHO MAY NOT BE

[2:26:06] DOCUMENTED, AT LEAST HAVE EMPATHY FOR YOUR KIDS AND UNDERSTAND THE REALITY OF THEIR SITUATION. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. NEXT UP WE HAVE

[2:26:13] JIM, NUMBER 11. WELCOME.

[2:26:31] >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I'M JIM

[2:26:36] RAMNERINE FROM WARD 11. AND I'LL MAKE MY COMMENTS BRIEF. I'M

[2:26:43] REPRESENTING INDIVISIBLE TWIN CITIES, HOWEVER, I'M NOT RECOGNIZED AS SPEAKING FOR THEM. I'M SPEAKING FOR MYSELF. WE ARE

[2:26:48] WORKING WITH ALL OF THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE SPOKEN EARLIER. I JUST WANT TO QUICKLY

[2:26:54] ADD A FEW THINGS. FIRST OF ALL, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO RECOGNIZE THAT WE ARE DEALING

[2:27:03] WITH A ARMED AUTHORITARIAN GOVERNMENT RIGHT NOW. THIS IS A TIME FOR US TO MAKE SERIOUS

[2:27:09] CHANGES. THIS IS NOT A TIME FOR THE COUNCIL TO BE TIMID. WE'RE

[2:27:15] DEALING WITH AN ORGANIZATION ICE THAT'S NOW BEING SUPPORTED BY EVERY OTHER ARMED PART OF THE

[2:27:22] GOVERNMENT. HSI WAS DOING INVESTIGATIONS. THEY HAVE NOW BEEN TRANSFERRED INTO DO

[2:27:28] ENFORCEMENT. THE SAME WITH ATF AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS SUPPORTED BY THE FBI. SO WHEN

[2:27:33] YOU TALK ABOUT THESE DISTINCTIONS, THEY DON'T EXIST ANYMORE ACCORDING TO WEBINARS THAT I HAVE BEEN ATTENDING IN

[2:27:39] THE LAST FEW WEEKS. WE NEED TO CHANGE THE ORDINANCE. IT'S

[2:27:44] 22-YEARS OLD. WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING TO ADDRESS. AND

[2:27:50] SECONDLY, AS SOMEBODY WHO WORKED FOR HENNEPIN COUNTY IN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT ON A DAILY

[2:27:56] BASIS, WHAT ICE IS DOING ERODES THE TRUST IN THE POLICE

[2:28:01] DEPARTMENT. OUR POLICE OFFICERS IN MINNEAPOLIS NEED TO DO BETTER TO ENSURE THAT THEY HAVE THE TRUST THAT'S BEING ERODED BY THE

[2:28:08] FEDERAL GOVERNMENT RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. NEXT UP WE HAVE

[2:28:15] CHRISTINA, 12. ISBELL, 13, HOWARD, 14, AND JESSE, 15.

[2:28:21] >> THANK YOU. I AM UNAFFILIATED. I WILL BE SPEAKING PERSONALLY. I

[2:28:29] SUPPORT ALL OF MIRAC'S SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS. I HAVE JUST SOME GENERAL THINGS TO AIR. I'M

[2:28:36] PROUDLY THE DAUGHTER OF IMMIGRANTS DISPLACED FIRST FROM GERMANY BY WORLD WAR, AND THEN

[2:28:43] VENEZUELA BY REVOLUTION. EVEN WITH RACE PRIVILEGE WE ENJOY HERE, I FEELEFLECTS OF

[2:28:50] SOLIDARITY WITH IMMIGRANTS EVERYWHERE. -- THEY'RE WORKING

[2:28:55] THEIR TAILS OFF AS THEY IN TOTAL CONTRIBUTE MORE TO OUR ECONOMY

[2:29:00] THAN THEY IN TOTAL ARE ABLE TO TAKE OUT. I'M ALSO THE GRATEFUL BENEFICIAL TO THEIR DAZZLING

[2:29:07] CONTRIBUTIONS TO THEIR CULTURAL INHERITANCE. -- I ASSUME YOU

[2:29:13] EXPECT HUMANE TREATMENT OF OUR IMMIGRANTS. ICE'S ILLEGAL AND

[2:29:20] SADISTICAL TACTICS -- DISGRACING US IN THE EYES OF THE WORLD. MOST PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM DON'T NEED TO HEAR THIS. BUT IN CASE

[2:29:27] ANYBODY DID, THIS IS WHAT I WANTED TO SAY TODAY. LAMENTING THE GRANDDAUGHTER OF FOOTLOOSE

[2:29:35] CHEERLEADERS. EVEN THE EDUCATED, EVEN THE COMPASSIONATE, EVEN MY

[2:29:40] OWN GRANDPARENTS -- FASCIST PROPAGANDA CAN UNKNOWINGLY

[2:29:47] COLLUDE IN HOLOCAUST THAT ONE DAY IT WILL COST THEM EVERYTHING IN THEIR SOULS TO KEEP DENYING

[2:29:52] OR ELSE TO FACE THE HORROR OF HAVING SUPPORTED. ALL MY LIFE I'VE TRIED TO WARN THE PEOPLE OF

[2:30:00] MY GENERATION AGAINST FALLING --

[2:30:06] ANY COOPERATION WITH ICE IS IN COOPERATION WITH -- UNRESISTED WILL TARGET WIDER AND WIDER

[2:30:11] SLOTS OF OUR POPULATION. IMMIGRANTS ARE BEING SCAPEGOATED

[2:30:19] FOR THE -- THE DANGER THREATENS ALL OF US. ALL OF US MUST REFUSE

[2:30:24] CONSENT FOR ANY COOPERATION WITH ICE. I KNOW I HAVE TO LEAVE. >> THANK YOU. >> WHATEVER IT'S GOING TO TAKE

[2:30:30] WE'LL SUPPORT YOU TO DO IT. >> THANK YOU, CHRISTINA. NEXT WE

[2:30:37] HAVE ISBELLO -- LOPEZ. WE MIGHT

[2:30:44] GO TO A 14. NUMBER 14, HOWARD.

[2:30:51] WELCOME.

[2:30:58] >> CHAIR CHAVEZ, COUNCIL MEMBERS, HOWARD DOTSON, WARD 2.

[2:31:04] I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A FILM FESTIVAL WHERE WE WATCH 1984,

[2:31:13] FAHRENHEIT 451, IT CAN'T HAPPEN HERE, AND THE LAST ONE IS A DAY WITHOUT MEXICANS. WE NEED A FILM

[2:31:19] FESTIVAL. WE'RE BACK IN THE 1930s. AND THESE BROWN SHIRTS

[2:31:25] THAT WERE IN OUR CITY, HOW MANY OF THEM WERE JANUARY 6TH-ERS

[2:31:42] WEARING MASKS. THIS IS WHAT I WAS WARNING YOU ABOUT. IN OUR

[2:31:47] MEETING WITH LUGER AND THE SOMALI ELDERS GOT SABOTAGED. SO

[2:31:55] THE IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY THAT I'VE SERVED FOR 12 YEARS AS A

[2:32:00] PRESBYTERIAN MINISTER IN L.A. AND OMAHA AND RENO AND SAINT

[2:32:06] PAUL, I'VE WITNESSED AN ICE RAID IN FRONT OF MY DOOR. I PRAYED IN

[2:32:13] 2014. I SENT YOU THE PICTURE AT THE MERCADO. I PRAYED WITH THE

[2:32:19] LATINOS AS PRESIDENT OBAMA ANNOUNCED DACA EXECUTIVE ORDER. MY HEART IS BREAKING. AND

[2:32:27] INSTEAD OF CHIEF O'HARA, THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN MAYOR FREY DOWN

[2:32:32] THERE. YOU LOOK AT L.A., MAYOR

[2:32:38] BASS, WE NEED A MAYOR WHO IS GOING TO SHOW UP AND PROTECT THE

[2:32:43] HUMAN CIVIL RIGHTS OF OUR RESIDENTS. I ASK FOR THE DOJ TO UNITE AGAINST HATE. NOPE. MAYOR

[2:32:50] FREY WASN'T DOWN THERE THAT DAY. WE NEED A MAYOR WHO IS IN THE TRENCHES RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE'RE

[2:32:55] FACING FASCISM RIGHT NOW. >> NEXT UP, WELCOME JESSE.

[2:33:06] >> HEY, EVERYBODY, I'M A WARD 9 RESIDENT. I WANT TO THANK YOU,

[2:33:11] COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ FOR YOUR BEING A REPRESENTATIVE OF ME, YOUR PASSION. I WANT TO THANK

[2:33:19] THE FIRST SPEAKER, MIGUEL, WHO UNDERLINED WHY WE NEED PASSION AND ADVOCACY ON THIS ISSUE RIGHT

[2:33:24] NOW. AND I JUST WISH I DIDN'T HAVE TO ASK IN THE DAYS AFTER THAT RAID WHETHER THE MAYOR, WHETHER THE POLICE CHIEF ARE

[2:33:30] READING THE NEWSPAPERS. OR WHAT'S GOING ON, RIGHT. BECAUSE WHAT I SAW WAS THIS SORT OF

[2:33:37] NARROW LEGALISTIC DEFENSE OF WELL THIS KIND OF ENFORCEMENT.

[2:33:44] THIS WAS THE OBJECT. REALLY WE'RE WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF THE ORDINANCE. I REALLY WORRY ABOUT THAT BECAUSE AS OTHER FOLKS HAVE

[2:33:51] NOTED, WE ARE NOT IN 2003 ANYMORE. WE KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF DOCUMENTATION THAT THE

[2:33:56] FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FROM THE TOP DOWN IS OPERATING OUTSIDE OF THE COLOR OF LAW. OUTSIDE OF THE

[2:34:01] RULE OF LAW. OUTSIDE OF CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS. THEY'RE DOING IT SYSTEMATICALLY AND

[2:34:07] REGULARLY. AND I REALLY WORRY THAT IF YOU'RE BRINGING AS A CITY A NARROW KIND OF LEGALISTIC

[2:34:13] APPROACH IN RESPONSE TO THIS BEHAVIOR, YOU'RE GOING TO GET ROLLED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT

[2:34:20] IT WAS, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S NEED TO CATCH UP WITH CURRENT EVENTS OR IF IT'S JUST A CONCERN

[2:34:26] ABOUT MESSAGE, DISCIPLINE OR WHATEVER. BUT WE'VE GOTTA MOVE PAST THAT. I'M ASKING FOR THE CITY TO SUBSTANTIVELY ENGAGE

[2:34:32] WITH THIS TERRIFYING AND SCARY AND VERY SERIOUS AND HARD MOMENT. AND I DO NOT WANT MPD TO

[2:34:38] BE A MEMBRANE AROUND FEDERAL ENFORCEMENT THAT INVOLVES ICE. I

[2:34:44] DON'T. ANYTHING THAT'S CLOSE BY. ANYTHING THAT'S SCARING OUR PEOPLE, I DON'T WANT THAT. I SAW

[2:34:50] THAT ALREADY AS A RESIDENT, I SAW WHAT IT WAS LIKE WHEN MPD

[2:34:58] FORMED A MEMBRANE AROUND LAW ENFORCEMENT, PROTECTED THE BADGE INSTEAD OF PROTECTING

[2:35:05] PROTESTORS, MY NEIGHBORS, BUSINESSES. I ALREADY SAW THAT ONCE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. NEXT UP WE HAVE ELLIE, NUMBER 16.

[2:35:18] >> CHAIR, THANK YOU. ELI SHERMAN, WARD 3 RESIDENT. THANK

[2:35:24] YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TODAY. I JUST WANTED TO ASK A SIMPLE QUESTION, WHY SHOULD ANY OF US

[2:35:29] TRUST THE FEDS RIGHT NOW? THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO REASON TO HAVE

[2:35:34] ANY SORT OF TRUST WHEN IT COMES TO FEDERAL AGENTS MOVING INTO OUR CITY, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT IS

[2:35:40] WITH MILITARIZED EQUIPMENT, GEAR, AND ZIP TIES. CLEARLY IN MY OPINION THAT THEY INTEND TO

[2:35:47] USE ON PEOPLE EITHER IN OR OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING THAT SHOW UP TO PUSH AGAINST THEM IN

[2:35:53] WHATEVER WAY. WE HAVE A DUTY RIGHT NOW AS A COMMUNITY TO BAND

[2:36:01] AROUND THE IMMIGRANTS WHO RUN THIS CITY, WHO RUN THIS COUNTRY. WE DO NOT EXIST WITHOUT THEM. WE

[2:36:09] VERY OFTEN ERASE THE CONTRIBUTIONS THAT THESE INDIVIDUALS HAVE REGARDLESS OF

[2:36:14] THEIR DOCUMENTATION STATUS. AND I THINK IT'S WRONG TO ALSO SIT UP HERE AND HAND WRING ABOUT

[2:36:21] INVOLVEMENT OF YOUR COLLEAGUES IN PROTESTS AND EXERCISING OF THEIR FREE SPEECH. I MEAN, IT'S

[2:36:27] PRETTY CLASSIC THAT YOU KNOW, PEOPLE AREN'T HERE RIGHT NOW TO HEAR THIS. BUT I'D LIKE TO CLEAR

[2:36:33] UP THE TIMELINE FROM SOME OF THE

[2:36:38] THINGS THAT WERE MENTIONED. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GAP IN

[2:36:45] COMMUNICATION. THE MAYOR FOUND OUT AT 10:45. 45 MINUTES IS A LONG TIME. I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHO

[2:36:52] THE POLICE CHIEF WAS SPEAKING TO. AFTER THAT, THE MAYOR KNEW AT 10:45. THE FIRST I SAW OF ANY

[2:36:59] COUNCIL MEMBER IN THAT ACTION WAS AFTER THAT MOMENT. ALL IT COULD HAVE TAKEN WAS HIM PICKING UP THE PHONE AND CALLING PEOPLE.

[2:37:06] HE'S SHOWN TIME AND TIME AGAIN HE'S WILLING TO TRUST THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AT THEIR WORD AND NOT WILLING TO TRUST THE

[2:37:13] WORD OF HIS COLLEAGUES AND WHAT THEY SEE EVERY DAY. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. NEXT UP WE HAVE

[2:37:24] ISABEL LOPEZ. AND THEN JASON,

[2:37:31] 18, MARGUERITE, 19, KATE, 20.

[2:37:37] >> HELLO AND GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS CHINO. I'M

[2:37:43] HERE TO INTRODUCE ISABEL LOPEZ WHO IS A 27-YEAR OLD POET, COMMUNITY ORGANIZER, AND MEMBER

[2:37:49] OF THE INDIGENOUS PROTECTION MOVEMENT. SHE WAS ARRESTED BY THE FBI. HER ARREST CAME JUST

[2:37:55] DAYS AFTER PARTICIPATING IN A JUNE 3RD PROTEST AGAINST ICE.

[2:38:01] ISA WHO WAS PRESENT AT THE SCENE WAS BODY SLAMMED AND STOMPED ON BY FEDERAL OFFICERS AND NOT

[2:38:08] PROTECTED BY LOCAL OFFICIALS. ISA CAN EXPLAIN AGENCIES LIKE

[2:38:18] ICE -- AND HOW WHAT HAPPENED ON JUNE 3RD IS CONNECTED TO A MUCH LARGER AND OLDER INSTITUTIONAL

[2:38:25] NARRATIVE THAT WE NEED IMMEDIATE PROTECTION FROM.

[2:38:32] >> ( SPEAKING SPANISH )

[2:38:42] >> YOU GOT THIS. >> FEAR IS A CHAIN THAT THIS

[2:38:47] ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN ABLE TO IGNORE -- A CHAIN THAT HAS BEEN WELDING INTO A DEEPER SPIRAL ALL

[2:38:53] THROUGHOUT THIS COUNTRY. INVESTING IN THE IMPRISONMENT OF BLACK AND BROWN BODIES IS

[2:38:59] NOTHING NEW TO THE U.S. OCCUPATION. IT IS PART OF THE ECONOMY THAT THEY HAVE BUILT THEMSELVES WITH AND ARE ABLE TO

[2:39:05] MAINTAIN THEIR MILITANT LEGACY. A LEGACY THAT IS A CORD THAT THEY HAVE DISGUISED AS ROOTS TO

[2:39:12] THESE LANDS. WHAT IS HAPPENING TO BROWN AND BLACK IMMIGRANT

[2:39:17] FOLKS OF INDIGENOUS DESCENT ALL OVER THIS COUNTRY IS MORE THAN A FORM OF REPRESSION BUT A

[2:39:24] CREEPING FORM OF APARTHEID. APARTHEID, A POLICY OR LEGACY OF SEGREGATION OR DISCRIMINATION ON

[2:39:30] GROUNDS OF RACE. PERSECUTION IS A PLAIN TACTIC TO OPPRESS AND

[2:39:35] NEGLECT THE VOICES AND BODIES THAT CHOOSE TO ACT OUT

[2:39:40] OTHERWISE. OPPRESSION LIMITS THE EXISTENCE OF A PERSON AND THE COMMUNITY THEY COME FROM. A

[2:39:46] COMMUNITY, PEOPLE, ARE THEY ABLE TO LIVE? ARE THEY ABLE TO GO TO THEIR DAY-TO-DAY LIVES? PEOPLE

[2:39:53] DON'T DESERVE TO LIVE IN FEAR. OUR COMMUNITY DOES NOT DESERVE TO LIVE IN FEAR. AND SO I'LL

[2:40:01] LEAVE YOU A PIECE FROM MY POEM THAT I'VE WRITTEN. THIS LAND IS

[2:40:06] NOT YOUR LAND. IT IS THE HEARTBEAT OF OUR ANCESTORS

[2:40:12] LEGACY THAT WHISPER TO US TO NEVER STOP GROWING, TO NEVER STOP HEALING, TO NEVER STOP

[2:40:19] LOVING. WHY ELSE WOULD WE LEAVE WHAT WE LOVE FOR A DREAM. -- JUST AS NATURALLY AS THE MONARCH

[2:40:27] BUTTERFLY. WE ARE NOT YOUR IMMIGRANTS. WE ARE THE SEED OF THE DESCENDANTS THAT HAVE

[2:40:35] TRADED -- THIS LAND RECOGNIZES US, THIS LAND HOLDS US. ( SPEAKING SPANISH )

[2:40:50] >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, ISA. NEXT UP WE HAVE JASON. WELCOME.

[2:41:03] >> THANK YOU. MY NAME IS JASON, I AM A RESIDENT OF WARD 10. I

[2:41:11] WANTED TO COME AND SPEAK TODAY BECAUSE WHILE I APPRECIATE THAT

[2:41:17] THE COUNCIL TOOK ACTION IN REQUESTING THIS AFTER ACTION

[2:41:23] REVIEW, IT'S STILL OBVIOUS THAT THERE'S SO MUCH MORE THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE ON ALL LEVELS OF THE

[2:41:28] CITY GOVERNMENT. WE NEED THE CITY COUNCIL TO WORK TOGETHER TO

[2:41:34] STRENGTHEN OUR SEPARATION ORDINANCE. WE NEED THE MAYOR'S OFFICE TO COMMIT TO BEING HONEST

[2:41:39] ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON IN OUR STREETS WITH OUR POLICE

[2:41:45] DEPARTMENT COOPERATING WITH FEDERAL AGENCIES. IT IS

[2:41:53] INCREDIBLY DISHEARTENING TO COME HERE AND SEE ABOUT HALF OF THE COUNCIL REMAINING AFTER SO MANY

[2:41:59] OF YOU AND YOUR COLLEAGUES SPENT TIME BICKERING WITH EACH OTHER AND INSULTING EACH OTHER AND

[2:42:06] TAKING UP TIME THAT COULD HAVE BEEN USED TO HEAR WHAT THE IMPACTS ARE IN THE COMMUNITY.

[2:42:12] AND I APPRECIATE YOU ALL TAKING THE TIME TO LISTEN TO US. BUT

[2:42:17] THIS IS A TIME WHERE WE NEED LEADERSHIP. AND I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU FOR STEPPING UP AND LEANING IN WHERE YOU CAN. AND

[2:42:23] ESPECIALLY THOSE OF YOU WHO MADE AN EFFORT TO BE ON LAKE STREET ON JUNE 3RD. I WASN'T ABLE TO BE

[2:42:31] AT LAKE AND BLOOMINGTON BECAUSE I GOT CALLED BY PEOPLE I KNOW IN

[2:42:37] COMMUNITY WHO ARE UNDOCUMENTED, WHO WORK ON LAKE STREET AND WERE SCARED OF HOW THEY WERE GOING TO GET HOME TO THEIR KIDS. SO I

[2:42:43] SPENT THE BETTER PART OF THAT DAY HELPING COORDINATE TRANSPORTATION FOR PEOPLE SO THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO GET ON

[2:42:49] THE BUS THAT GOES DOWN LAKE STREET. SO THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO GET ON A BUS THAT GOES DOWN

[2:42:55] BLOOMINGTON. THE IMPACTS OF THESE ACTIONS GO FAR BEYOND WHAT

[2:43:01] WE SAW THAT DAY. AND I HOPE THAT YOU ALL COMMIT TO MITIGATING THOSE THINGS WITH OUR FEDERAL

[2:43:06] GOVERNMENT GOING FORWARD. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. NEXT UP, MARIANNA,

[2:43:14] 19. AND IF YOU'RE NOT HERE,

[2:43:19] WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT PERSON AND COME BACK IF FOLKS ARE MISSING.

[2:43:26] KATE, NUMBER 20. KATE H.

[2:43:34] ( ALARM BLARING )

[2:43:39] >> OKAY. NEXT UP WE HAVE JAMES 30 -- NO, 21.

[2:43:48] >> MY NAME IS JAMES. AND I AM FRUSTRATED WITH THE CONFUSION IN

[2:43:54] THE MEDIA AND THE MPD IN PARTICULAR. THEY SHOULD NOT BE THIS CONFUSED FOR A SITUATION

[2:44:00] THAT WAS RATHER CLEAR TO MOST OF US. FOR EXAMPLE, WE NEED MORE CONCRETE DIALOGUE. I'VE HEARD A

[2:44:09] LOT OF HSI BEING USED HERE. AND HSI OF COURSE WAS SEEMED TO BE

[2:44:15] THE LEAD HERE. BUT I WOULD SAY IT'S SIMILAR TO EVERYTHING ELSE GOING ON IN THE COUNTRY RIGHT

[2:44:22] NOW. A SPECIAL TASK FORCE. THAT IS WHAT THEY'RE MAINLY USING IN ORDER TO ABUSE IMMIGRATION

[2:44:28] RIGHTS. IN THIS INSTANCE, I WOULD SAY IT'S ESPECIALLY CONCERNING HOW SIMILAR AND

[2:44:34] REMINISCENT OF SECRET POLICE IT IS. FOR EXAMPLE, THE ATF, THEIR

[2:44:39] ATTIRE LOOKED RIDICULOUS. IT LOOKED LIKE SOMEBODY JUST MADE A UNIFORM THE NIGHT BEFORE. THEY

[2:44:46] HAD SOMETHING CALLED THE OTHERS ON. WHICH I HAVE ONLY BEEN

[2:44:51] EXPOSED TO THAT THROUGH EXTREMIST GROUPS. SO I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THEY KNOW ABOUT THAT. I WOULD ASK THEM PERSONALLY. I

[2:45:00] WOULD ASK YOU WHAT IS OUR PLAN, WHAT IS YOUR PLAN? I'D SAY

[2:45:08] INVESTIGATING THESE EVERY SPECIAL TASK FORCE BEFORE THEY GET INTO THIS COUNTRY, WHICH IS A LOT OF WORK I KNOW. BUT

[2:45:13] INVESTIGATING BEFORE HAND WOULD BE IDEAL. AND THEN HOW CAN WE

[2:45:19] TRUST OUR AUTHORITIES, INCLUDING YOU, TO ACTUALLY HANDLE THIS WHEN FOR THE MOST PART THE COMMUNICATION HAS BEEN VAGUE.

[2:45:29] OUR COMMUNITIES ARE LEAVING BECAUSE OF FEAR. MOVING OUT OF THE CITIES. THEY NEED TO BE

[2:45:37] ENCOURAGED AND WITH A GENTLE APPROACH ASSURED THAT THEY WILL BE PROTECTED. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

[2:45:45] >> THANK YOU. NEXT UP IS PETER, 22.

[2:45:53] >> GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M IN WARD 4. BEFORE I SPEAK TO THE URGENT

[2:46:00] NEED FOR COOPERATION WITH ICE, LET'S START WITH THE THING THAT

[2:46:08] OFTEN SURPRISES PEOPLE. PRESIDENT OBAMA DEPORTED MORE UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS THAN ANY

[2:46:15] OTHER U.S. PRESIDENT IN HISTORY. IN HIS ADMINISTRATION,

[2:46:27] 5.24 MILLION WERE REPATRIOTED. HIS ADMINISTRATION FOCUSED HEAVILY ON REMOVING THOSE WHO POSED THREATS TO NATIONAL

[2:46:33] SECURITY AND PUBLIC SAFETY. EARNING HIM THE NICKNAME DEPORTER IN CHIEF. AMONG

[2:46:42] IMMIGRATION ADVOCATES. IN FACT, PRESIDENT TRUMP LATER REHIRED

[2:46:47] OBAMA'S OWN ICE DIRECTOR, TOM

[2:46:54] HOLMAN. TO LEAD IMMIGRATION EFFORTS -- HAS MADE IT CLEAR

[2:47:01] CITIES, COUNTIES, AND STATES WOULD SIMPLY COOPERATE, ESPECIALLY BY ALLOWING THEM TO

[2:47:09] PICK UP VIOLENT OFFENDERS, THERE WOULD BE FAR LESS NEED FOR ICE TO CONDUCT OPERATIONS IN OUR

[2:47:14] NEIGHBORHOODS. THIS IS NOT ABOUT

[2:47:19] POLITICS. IT'S ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY AND COMMON SENSE. WHEN LOCAL JURISDICTIONS REFUSE TO

[2:47:26] HONOR ICE DETAINERS, DANGEROUS INDIVIDUALS ARE RELEASED BACK INTO OUR COMMUNITIES. THAT

[2:47:32] FORCES ICE TO GO TO DOOR-TO-DOOR OF RESIDENTIAL AREAS INCREASING

[2:47:39] FEAR AND TENSION AMONG LAW ABIDING FAMILIES AND IMMIGRANTS. BUT IF WE WORK TOGETHER, CITY,

[2:47:46] COUNTY, AND STATE, WE CAN ENSURE THAT THOSE WHO COMMIT HEINOUS

[2:47:51] CRIMES ARE TRANSFERRED DIRECTLY TO ICE CUSTODY REDUCING THE NEED FOR DISRUPTIVE ENFORCEMENT

[2:47:58] ACTIONS. 10 SECONDS, IF YOU DON'T MIND. >> FIVE. >> OKAY. FIVE. LET'S NOT MAKE IT

[2:48:04] HARDER FOR ICE TO DO ITS JOB. LET'S PROTECT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS BY COOPERATING WITH FEDERAL LAW

[2:48:10] ENFORCEMENT. >> THANK YOU. >> IN A WAY THAT PRIORITY

[2:48:15] SAFETY. >> NUMBER 23. AND THEN JULIA, 24.

[2:48:25] >> IS THIS GOOD? OKAY. PERFECT. HELLO. MY NAME IS KATE. I LIVE IN WARD 8. AND SO I'VE BEEN IN

[2:48:34] MANY COMMUNITY SPACES MORE RECENTLY FOR DEBRIEFING AND HEALING. BUT OF WHAT HAPPENED ON JUNE 3RD. AND AFTER THE AUDIT, I

[2:48:45] FEEL GASLIT BY CERTAIN COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT ARE NOT HERE. ICE

[2:48:52] WAS PRESENT. OVER 30 AGENTS FROM ORGANIZATIONS INCLUDING MPD. MPD

[2:49:00] WAS ESCORTING. ASKING THEM QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN THEIR COMMUNITY, IN

[2:49:06] MY COMMUNITY, THEY IGNORED US. THERE WAS YOUTH IN THAT SPACE AS

[2:49:11] WELL. AND SO THE TRAUMA THAT IS GETTING PASSED TO OUR FUTURE

[2:49:17] GENERATION IS IRREVERSIBLE AND IRREPARABLE. THERE WAS A COUNCIL MEMBER, AND IF I'M CORRECT, I

[2:49:24] THINK IT WAS PALMISANO, WHAT WERE THE RISKS SEEING MPD WITH ICE THAT DAY. EVEN THOUGH THE

[2:49:30] AUDIT SAID THAT THEY DID NOT

[2:49:35] BREAK THE SANCTUARY POLICY, BUT WHAT WE SAW ON THAT DAY WAS THE

[2:49:41] COLLABORATION. AND SO WITH EVERYTHING THAT WAS HAPPENING THERE, WE SAW THE COLLABORATION HAPPENING THAT DAY. AND SO I

[2:49:48] WOULD HAVE LOVED TO SEE EVIDENCE BEING INCLUDED OF THE RESIDENTS OF THIS AUDIT BECAUSE THE PUBLIC

[2:49:54] COMMENT IT TELLS A DIFFERENT STORY. I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW, AGAIN, FOR THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT ARE NOT PRESENT, THAT THEY

[2:50:02] KNOW THAT THEY HAVE OUR COMMUNITY'S BACKS. THE FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WERE ON THE

[2:50:08] GROUND AND STAFF, AND SPECIFICALLY COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT HAVE LIVED EXPERIENCES AND

[2:50:15] STAFF, AND SO I ALSO SUPPORT -- THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE

[2:50:21] JULIE, 24. AND IF FOLKS HAVE NOT FINALIZED SIGNING UP PLEASE DO

[2:50:27] SO BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE PEOPLE IN FRONT OF ME. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHAVEZ.

[2:50:34] THANK YOU, COMMITTEE MEMBERS. MY NAME IS JULIE DOUGHERTY, I LIVE

[2:50:40] IN WARD 12. I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR HOLDING THIS PUBLIC HEARING AFTER THE REPORT BECAUSE

[2:50:47] IT IS SO IMPORTANT TO HEAR WHAT PEOPLE HAVE TO SAY. PEOPLE WHO

[2:50:52] COME HERE AND SPEND A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF THEIR TIME TO TALK ABOUT WHAT IS IMPORTANT

[2:50:57] TO THEM. AND I NOTICED THAT MAYOR FREY IS NOT HERE. I

[2:51:03] NOTICED CHIEF O'HARE IS NOT HERE, AND THE AUDITORS HAVE LEFT. BUT I PARTICULARLY WANT TO

[2:51:10] THANK COUNCIL MEMBER PAYNE, COUNCIL MEMBER JENKINS,

[2:51:15] CHOWDHURY, CHUGHTAI, AND WONSLEY FOR STAYING TO LISTEN AND HEARING WHAT WE FEEL IS SO IMPORTANT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[2:51:23] >> THANK YOU. ARE WE GOOD WITH TESTIMONY? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. SEEING -- WELL --

[2:51:34] SEEING NO ONE WISHING TO SPEAK ANY LONGER, I WILL NOW CLOSE THE

[2:51:39] PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. I CLOSED IT ALREADY. CAN I REOPEN IT?

[2:51:47] I'LL MAKE A MOTION WITHOUT OBJECTION TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ONE MORE SPEAKER. AFTER THAT, WE DO HAVE TO MOVE ON. IS THERE A SECOND?

[2:51:55] >> SECOND. >> WELL THERE'S NO OBJECTION. NO OBJECTION. THANK YOU. WELCOME.

[2:52:01] >> SORRY, I WASN'T PLANNING TO SPEAK TODAY. BUT THERE'S ONE THING. MY NAME IS ESTHER. I

[2:52:08] HAVEN'T HEARD ANYBODY SAY THIS YET BUT IT'S THE ONLY THING THAT REALLY MAKES SENSE TO ME. THE

[2:52:13] MPD SHOULD BE DEFENDING US FROM FEDERAL AGENCIES. I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER ROLE THEY COULD

[2:52:18] POSSIBLY PLAY IF THEY REPRESENT US AND OUR SAFETY AND FEDERAL AGENCIES DO NOT, THEN THE MPD

[2:52:24] SHOULD BE DEFENDING US FROM FEDERAL AGENCIES. THAT SHOULD BE THEIR ROLE IF THEY SHOW UP.

[2:52:29] THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND I AGREE. SO SEEING NO ONE ELSE

[2:52:34] WISHING TO SPEAK, I WILL NOW CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. COLLEAGUES, WE STILL HAVE NOT

[2:52:40] FINISHED THE REST OF OUR BUSINESS ON THE CITY COUNCIL. IS THERE ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK? OTHERWISE, I DO WANT US TO MOVE

[2:52:45] ON SO WE CAN FINALIZE THIS. GREAT. NO ONE IS ON QUEUE.

[2:52:52] SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, MAY I HAVE THE CLERK PLEASE RECEIVE AND FILE THOSE COMMENTS.

[2:52:59] WRITTEN AND TYPED COMMENTS WILL BE PUBLIC AND AVAILABLE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE TOMORROW. WITH

[2:53:09] THAT, IS THIS NEXT ORDINANCE COW STILL? SORRY, IT'S BEEN A LONG

[2:53:15] DAY. WE WILL NOW TAKE UP AN ITEM. THIS ITEM IS ORDINANCE

[2:53:21] RELATED TO POLICE OVERSIGHT. THE ORDINANCE -- DUTY STRUCTURE AND

[2:53:27] OVERSIGHT. I WILL ALSO NOTE THAT A REVISED VERSION OF THE ORDINANCE WAS POSTED TO LIMS

[2:53:34] LAST WEEK AND BEFORE US TODAY. COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE TO SPEAK ON THAT ITEM AND GIVE A MOTION.

[2:53:39] >> THANK YOU, CHAIR CHAVEZ. WE RECEIVED A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM

[2:53:44] OUR PUBLIC HEARING, AND ALSO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK FROM PROFESSIONAL STAFF. I DON'T

[2:53:50] WANT TO RUSH THIS THROUGH. THIS IS A CRITICALLY IMPORTANT ORDINANCE. I'M MAKING A MOTION

[2:53:57] TO CONTINUE THIS THROUGH AN ADDITIONAL CYCLE SO I CAN FINALIZE THAT WORK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

[2:54:02] >> SECOND. >> THANK YOU. THAT MOTION HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. NO ONE ELSE IS ON QUEUE FOR DISCUSSION.

[2:54:08] ALL THOSE IN FAVOR ON COUNCIL PRESIDENT'S PAYNE'S DISCUSSION

[2:54:13] SAY AYE. >> AYE. >> OPPOSED SAY NAY. NO ABSTENTIONS. THAT MOTION

[2:54:19] CARRIES. SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION AND BEING THAT WE GAVE THE REPORT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, WE'VE CONCLUDED

[2:54:25] ALL BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE THE MEETING TODAY, AND HEARING NO

[2:54:30] OBJECTION, I'LL DECLARE THIS MEETING ADJOURNED.

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