I'm not sure that this as an agenda item is the is necessary going forward I'm not sure it's the most efficient use of our time I think it's valuable information in some capacity maybe with the one pager report kind of the snapshot of users and volunteer hours those types of things.

I don't think micromanaging the the pro the project and with a rearview mirror is kind of really what we want to do I would like a summary report because this was a major initiative and uh we shouldn't lose sight of that but I also kind of want to let staff get on to do their job because we've got other projects that are going to be divisive and challenging and are going to require staff time and STA and staff effort.

maybe a a suggestion in the city manager can chinman too would be maybe uh staff can work with the the park board to see what information they'd like we can present that as an information item to them and then work with the city manager to provide an update to the to the Council on an annual basis.

I think it would be irresponsible of us as a council to take the issue of do the dog ordinance and put it in front of nine or 15 residents who are volunteers and put them in the line of fire and to face what the parkboard faced um earlier in the year during that meeting.

to my knowledge from my research we're the only community in the western suburbs that clearly doesn't state that animals need dogs need to be on leash we have under uh 92585 1-c uh they can be on a leash But A and B give options to be off leash and so um you know to me it's a pretty simple thing to say we should be on leash period.

I think we need an ordinance we want to do it in a streamlined way and we want to make sure I think that people people get interested when they have something to react to and if it's just kind of oblique and well we're working on this and would you like to sign up and be part of the group I mean we're not going to get anything that's worth having but if we have a a a group of experts our staff in consultation with um with perhaps um the park board or um or the councel or whatever and then bring this thing forward and we have public um I think we can do it more quickly.

You guys the parkboard took so much pressure away that un think unreasonably so um I I cannot thank you enough for the work that you've done over the course of the past two years and the pressure that you felt in dealing with this.

I think from a staff perspective what we hear Direction being tonight is that you're leaning towards option one which is directing staff to create an ordinance which we will do... and then concurrently I think you're also looking at item or option 3B which is to convene a work group... to really talk about I think all the other things that have been mentioned here um from looking at locations of offleash areas.