The whale tale lake south basin um was put on the impaired waters list for excessive nutrients in 2006. Um this is a list that's reviewed by the MPCA every year where new lakes get added and and other lakes get taken off of the list. And the um primary nutrient that we're focused on for this project is phosphorus.

And alum is a aluminum sulfate product and it has a strong binding capacity to phosphorus. that likes to grab onto phosphorus and hold on to it. And so when you apply it in a lake just below the surface, um that alum settles out through the water column and as it's settling, it grabs onto phosphorus. It strips the water column of phosphorus as it's settling. And then also um the alum that hasn't bound on to phosphorus, it forms a blanket over the top of the sediments. And that blanket, that alum layer blanket, um, keeps that phosphorus from being released back up into the water column.

The alum treatment um is going to remove about almost 400 lb of um phosphorus a year and the life expectancy of the alum is about 15 to 20 years. And so when you uh compare it, look at that and and look at how much uh phosphorus is removed per pound um given that cost over a life expectancy of 15 to 20 years, it's about $73 per pound, which is a really good cost benefit. If you were to compare it to a watershed project um that wershed projects costs about a,000 to $5,000 per pound of phosphorus removed. So it's excellent cost benefit for this project.

To get the lake off the impaired waters list, you have to meet the phosphorus standard and then one of the other two uh parameters chlori depth which is water clarity. And in this case, we're meeting all three parameters. Um the next review period by the MPCA is 2028. And so that's when we expect to get the lake off the impaired waters list.

Overall, our unit count has not changed. We're still at the 357 units, uh, which keeps that density right at the 3 and a half units per acre as we've previously talked about. And we continue to include 61 town homes and 96 single family homes.

I just want to know this continues to be a a work in progress. We're working very closely with staff and WSB um and and there's a lot of stakeholders involved in in this that [clears throat] we will continue to work through the the process as we get through our preliminary plat

How tied are you guys to the name Woodland? because it's going to be confusing. People at Google who direct their friends to Woodland Cove to now have Woodland Meadows right down the road there. I don't know if you guys are I I don't like it.

I will say I'm not a big fan of the huge block of 40ft lots. It just looks like a huge long strip of home shoved into a tiny area. I don't know if there's a way to work it and throw some bigger lots in there because I know in Wood Cove there's smaller lots but their streets are shorter. There's not 20 of them just lined up in a row like that.

So the main part So you'd look at it what what would what size would their lift station be? So say it's a 6ft diameter by 20 foot deep. So if you add in the other areas, they may need an 8t by 27 foot deep. So the upsized part of it would be >> put on the city burden which should be then passed along to the developer in the future.

I came prepared with that just to make sure I didn't misspe. So, [laughter] um, I can speak for the MI side. Paul, feel free to jump in on the CUD side if you would like, but from the MI side, our town homes would start somewhere in the low 400s. Um, this is what we know today. Obviously, kind of very market driven. Um, with our single families ranging in the probably upper 400s, uh, and then the all the way up to probably the low 700s, low to mid 700s.

So, when we first came to the council and approached this um proposed project, we were looking at 81,900 for a budget. [snorts] Um, and that includes construction contingency, um, design costs, etc. And this project, we are looking at a cost share with Henipin County. And so, they committed 50% of the of the project cost up to 40,950.

This will replace the what the larger rip wrap stone that's been in there, the the larger limestone rock that's in there, which has been great for years. It's been used everywhere, you know, and stuff. But the thing that happens is five, six years down, seven years down the road is now silted shut. You have to go and clean it out. The only way to clean it out is to get equipment in there, remove it all, and install new again. So, we're hoping with this with being a bit more user friendly. um when this gets, you know, to the point where it needs the debris cleaned up, we can go in there with a vac trailer, vac it, clean it up, and similar to what we've done on some of the other areas where we have um similar type uh usage of this, but just the maintenance cost down the road is going to be so much more convenient.

And through this backyard too, there is the sanitary sewer comes and wraps around through there and there's a manhole and it's eroded right up to the manhole. So when you literally open up the manhole cover and you watch the water rush by, it is running into that manhole like crazy. So getting it away from this manhole, um getting that out of there, we're also going to line that um whole structure to keep that from coming in. So we'll see a lot more, you know, a lot less ini coming in there, which again will save a lot of money down the road.

This change order is going to cover some, uh, irriator duct work that has modifications with the duct u with the aiator that is going to be installed in there. uh it was determined the way the duct work comes in, it has to be moved and changed around a little bit to modify um or to accommodate the uh inflow of that.

Now is the time to do this. The uh the inner sleeve and then the other one will be the uh clear well access hatch modification. We were going to go with a with a um a lot cheaper model that we had, but um the Department of Health says we have to use this one. So that's why this modification is being made.

our set 5% contingency um was1,66,450 and that's 5% of the cost of the original contract which is $21,329,000. Um so remaining contingency we'll still have 1,25,000 which um hopefully is way higher than we're ever going to need.

what this is is our uh last or my last touch point I think with city council just to ensure that we for sure don't want to have it on our property. Um then if that's the case um the terms haven't changed at all. So I I've went back to them and tried to get additional um money and all those things. This is this is their highest and best offer.

Um this is a high point. So this is the one area that they that they want. So likely it would be maybe in this general vicinity >> and if that happens then they'd have to come in for a cup

I think I spent like four hours digging into this and we're we're not even I mean look at Northfield what they negotiated. We're tying up this piece of land. I mean for 35 years it's no money. It's a $1.6 million for 35 years and then $250 bucks for [snorts] each of that's nothing. and and they provided no kind of like when I looked at these things um they're typically asked to provide like visual I think there was a word for it you know visual simulations of who what this looks like from all over the place and I was looking at whale tail on here and the alum treatments and just looking at the water and the beautiful trees you don't see 155 ft tower behind those trees it's ugly and it ruins our city and I'm sorry I'd rather walk to a different room in my house to get better coverage than have to look at a 155 ft cell tower.

Well, but if it meets all of our criteria and it meets our ordinance, we have no legal right to say no. See, that's that's the problem. Verizon has deep pockets. Okay, I I agree with you. Um, [clears throat] I would like to see more money out of this, but I look at it and say, 'Okay, we say no.' And then they just go next door, and that property owner is going to say, '$36,000 a year. I'll take it.'

I actually don't care if they go onto a resident's private property and the resident makes money doing this. I think the staff would like not to get calls about why we're allowing this and why it's there. We don't have to deal with anything happens if it falls, if there's an issue, if >> if they abandon it. if they abandon it, it's on our resident. Um, I think if we're concerned about what property [snorts] it can go on, we could always amend an ordinance and limit where they could go. Could we not?

As you're aware, you know, the emerald ashbor is in Minnesota. It's in Minitrista and we're losing ash trees every day. You can see them everywhere around the community. It's going to really make a visual impact. Um Randy and I were just kind of counting up. We probably estimate that roughly 800 over 800 trees we removed out of the city parks uh and open land um out of our sewer lines and stuff like um sewer easement lines and stuff like that.

The choices are to do nothing. We've, you know, the city has come in, we've removed them. Uh, we've ground the stump. We've put the black dirt and seed down. Some cases we put sod down. Um, you know, leave it up to the homeowner to buy their own tree and planted in their yard out of the rightway. Um, and that's biggest thing you're going to see in here. We don't want them back in the rightway. We don't want trees in the rightway at all. if we can help it.

I think it's going to be way too expensive for the city to step in and say, 'Okay, a private tree on your property. We'll help you out with that.' We can't do that. I mean, because I'm just thinking of our property. We've got hundreds on our property. Okay. Are you going to help me out with that? I don't think so. So, what I would say is we're not going to be responsible to take down trees on private property. We're not going to be responsible to pay for them to remove them or take them to the to the site, whatever. That's going to be on their nickel.

My personal opinion, and I'll just throw out there, do nothing because it's a lot easier on my staff. So, but I want to throw it out there just to get, you know, just >> very, we agree. I agree. [laughter] >> Your answer your answer.