All right, it's 6:30 so I'm going to call the meeting to order. This is the Minnetrista City Council meeting for June 1st, 2026. I'm going to remind everybody to turn your cell phones on silent so they don't disrupt the meeting. And first order of business, would you please join me for Pledge of Allegiance. >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> So I'm going to start with some introductions here. I'm Lisa Whalen and I'm the mayor. And to my left we have council members Kathleen Weflen, Peter Vickery, Claudia Laisey, and Brian Gover. And then on the end we have our city engineer Allison Fauskee with WSB. And then we also have Paula Bauman who is our assistant administrator. To my right we have Jasper Cruger who is our city administrator, Brian Grimm our finance director, David Abel our community development director, and then Craig Squires who is our chief of police. And then we also have Gary Peters who is director of our public works department. And he and as well as Sarah Sonsteby are joining us today via Zoom. With that um those are all the introductions. Is there any are there any changes to the agenda, any additions we need to make? Hearing none, is there a motion to approve the agenda as presented? >> So moved. >> Thank you Ms. Laisey. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Thank you Mr. Vickery. Any further questions? Hearing none, all those in favor signify with I. >> I. >> All those opposed, motion passes. So next we don't have any special presentations, we'll move on to persons to be heard. We have Eric Kemple. You if If would like to say a few words, you're you need to come to the microphone. You'll have 3 minutes. Okay. Um Fred, maybe I'm sorry. Fred Fred Hempel? >> Yes. >> Okay. Did you want to say anything? >> No, I'm I'm just here to see what's going on here. >> Okay. All right. All right. And then Ken Vander Lindy, you signed up. >> Yeah. >> Just because you're here. >> I'm just kind of waiting to see what's going on here. >> All right. And then we have Dave Schultz. >> That's me. >> All right. Are you here regarding the Basma issue then? What we're going to do, I think, is hold off on that. And then when we um when we discuss that item on the agenda, I'll give you an opportunity to speak. >> Okay. Separate from the 3 minutes? >> Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Otherwise, you have 3 minutes. All right. All right. Um we'll move on to consent agenda items. Any you wish to remove? Hearing none, then they consist consist of A is approval of work session meeting minutes from May 18th, 2026. B is approval of city council regular meeting minutes from May 18th, 2026. C is a resolution to approve claims. D is a resolution to approve application from R. Carroll Spalding for conditional use permit to allow for the construction of a guest home over 1,000 square feet at 2501 County Road 92. And E is approval of conditional offer of employment to Richard Griffiths for the position of police officer. F is approval of termination of Officer Robbins. And G is accept the resignation of Police Officer Brandon White. Do I have a motion to approve consent agenda items A through G? >> So moved. >> Thank you, Ms. Ruskin. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Thank you, Mr. Govern. Any further questions? Hearing none, all those in favor signify with I. >> I. >> I. All those opposed, motion passes 5-0. Next, we have um a public hearing, and this is a nuisance declaration um at 9550 West Hill Road. So, I'm going to start with um Mr. Schultz. I'll >> Do you want to open the public hearing? >> Okay. No, I'm going to have him speak first, and then I'll open it. Okay. Okay. What What we'll do is um this is a um public hearing, so I'll open the public hearing, and I'll keep it open until you can get back, and you can make your do your presentation. Um with that um I'm going to hand it over to staff in the meantime. Um if you wish So, first of all, I'm going to open the public hearing. So, I'm going to open the public hearing, and anybody that wishes to speak for or against this may do so, but I'm going to keep it open for a little bit. I think I'm going to start have staff kind of give a background um on this, and then if anybody wishes to speak, you you can come to the podium. >> Uh yes, Madam Mayor, members of City Council. Uh tonight we're holding a public hearing uh to consider a nuisance declaration of 9550 West Hill Road. Uh there's a resolution in your packet, uh resolution 64-26, uh doing two things, declaring 9550 West Hill Road a public nuisance, and also issuing issuing an abatement order. And what that means is that uh in in the resolution itself, it gives the property owner until August 1st to uh get that property out of the nuisance declaration, um which basically means there's items that we've identified that they need to to to basically abate themselves. Um those items being uh and these are all in chapter 5 of the city code, Um, storage of materials, home occupation, uh uh, and nuisances. Um, so those are the three main areas that we've identified so far. Um, again, the the police and our building department were able to access the site on, uh, August 17th. And I think at the last meeting you guys were able to see a video or a couple videos from from that, um, to kind of see what the conditions are on the site. Uh, a little bit on the timeline here. This initially happened, um, we got a complaint or we sent a letter, uh, in September of 2025. Uh, and then we had another touch point at city council on November 17th of 2025. Essentially, it was said to, um, let them work on this over the the winter and check back in in Q1 of 2026. We did that on March 2nd, 2026. And then it, uh, at that point at March at the March 2nd meeting, uh, it was directed to proceed with kind of examining the site and and getting the administrative search warrant. We did not need to get the administrative search warrant. Um, Mr. Uh, the Bosma, the property owner, allowed us to access the site at that time. That's where those videos that you've seen, uh, originated. And then on May 18th, it was, uh, directed by by city council to staff to, uh, hold this, uh, public hearing and consider the nuisance, uh, declaration and the abatement order at this June 1st meeting. So, uh, that's kind of the timeline. I don't know if there's any questions city council has directly on this. >> Council, any questions at this time? All right. >> That's all I have. >> Does does Sarah want to weigh in or do you want to hold off, Sarah? >> Uh, Madam Mayor and members of the council, I don't I don't need to say anything at this point, but I'm available for questions. >> Thank you. All right. So, um, Mr. Schultz, I think you said you wanted to make some comments. >> I do. Thank you. >> Okay. And for the record, can you then state your name and address for the record or your business address, whichever you prefer. >> Ask you again here? Thank you. Uh my name is David Schultz. I'm an attorney. Uh my residence is 663 Carver Bluffs Parkway. My office address is 80 South 8th Street, uh Suite 900 in Minneapolis in the IDS Tower. Um and I represent Bob Bosma. So, um I brought some pictures that I wanted you to see regarding uh some progress that has happened at the property and I don't uh have them in my hand. >> We see that, yes. >> pictures. So, I don't know if you're procedurally allowed to keep the meeting open if I track them down or if I left them at the property and could bring them back maybe while you're still meeting. Close down. Um I think >> Okay. >> I can I can send them to Sarah or where or wherever I need to. I do have some electronically on my phone as well, but I went out to the property today and I think I guess just to back up a step, the history is that Mr. Bosma called me when he was charged with a crime in this case, which is pending. We have court on uh for a pre-trial, which is kind of, you know, you do an arraignment, you do a pre-trial. We're not at a trial yet. So, it's a preliminary kind of hearing. It may not resolve on July 14th, but um we have a pre-trial on that day. The um in my experience from when I was a prosecutor for Lakeville, Burnsville, Farmington, Cannon Falls, places like that, we bring a criminal matter, people would work on getting the the matter handled so they don't go to jail and so that they don't have a criminal conviction on their record and it they get the property cleaned up. This is a big project. I understand that. It started, you know, your timeline lays it out well uh in the um paperwork for this meeting. Um basically, right after winter ended is when we uh voluntarily allowed the police to come back on the property instead of making them get an administrative warrant. Um that was Mr. Bosma's decision to do that and allow them to take all kinds of pictures and video, which I understand you saw. Um they've made significant progress since that time. Two loads of two loads of 24 cars, I believe. I believe it's 48 vehicles have gone out. I have some of the pictures of some of the bigger vehicles on trailers that were taken off. He had to hire a separate company to do this that had bigger equipment, a larger trailer, that kind of thing. The school bus is gone. The a couple of big trucks, tow trucks, that kind of thing. Um uh so I think the one picture that I can't find that I have in hard copy is a trailer with maybe 10 or 12 cars on it, at least eight. And there was at least a couple loads of those um uh since the police were there. Um I have several on my phone here that I took uh that I got from his sons um regarding that. And then I took a few pictures today of the current status of the property. The hay field to the I guess if you're facing the property that the home, the hay field way to the left there is empty of vehicles. That That was full of vehicles. There's a hay wagon sitting in the middle of it now. On the right side, kind of the other far right side of the property where the barn is, and there's still some vehicles there. He's got a personal boat up there and a horse trailer up on the hill there. Um but that school bus was sitting there, that's gone. Um there's So there's and then a bunch of scrap metal as well. There's still a lot of work to do. He was told at the beginning of the criminal prosecution, well, I take that back. I'm not sure if that came from your uh um counsel or at the beginning of the criminal prosecution before I represented him, but he understood that he'd have until July to get things cleaned up. He's making sig- I I would call it significant progress. There's still a lot to do. There's no doubt about that, but um at his own expense and um with a lot of time put into it. He's 88 years old. He was in the hospital for a couple of weeks here just in the last couple of weeks. Unfortunately, and that set him back a bit. But he's spent a lot of time trying to work on this. Really I mean, they came out in April, April 17th when we allowed him on the property. There wasn't a ton of time to do a lot before that because this started in November. So really it was winter and then now he's making really good progress in the last 60 days. >> That's great. I mean, we're really happy to hear that because we'd prefer and not to have to go down a criminal road. We don't want to put 88 year old happy man or anybody in jail or whatever. So we definitely and what we could do is we could still issue the the order today, but we could say maybe August 1st or we could have a end date. So that he'd have plenty of time to to continue what he's already started before it would and I could going to have to refer to Sarah to see how that could work. Sarah, can you maybe explain briefly timeline and then if he could meet that timeline, what would happen then it would just go away or how how does this work? >> Sure. Madam Mayor, remember the members of the council, can you hear me? >> Yes. >> Okay. So on August 1st, that would be the the deadline for cleaning up the property under the nuisance abatement order. If it's not done by then, the city under its code can go on the property and start doing the abatement. I would recommend highly recommend in this case that we obtain a court order to do that. Just because you know, we are going on someone else's property probably without their permission. And then also we are removing a lot of things and you know, I would want to get the permission of the court to do that. So, we would file an action with the court. That could happen right after the deadline, but it may take a few weeks. He would have some time to respond to that, probably 20 days. And then once that response gets filed or if he doesn't respond, um then we could move the court to issue an order that would allow us to go on the property and do the abatement. And then once we have that court order, we could proceed with the abatement. Um from what I understand, it would be a very large amount of money to abate. So, we may have to actually go out for bids to um to have somebody come in and come in and do the abatement. That's my understanding. It's going to be over >> But so what happens with the July 14th um date? >> Not nothing in terms of the stuff going away. I mean, he I suppose he could um get it done by then and then you know, we would drop the criminal charges and I mean, then we wouldn't need to do the abatement in August. Um >> But the criminal charges, would they still be there if let's just say we set August 1st um that everything had to be cleaned up and they said okay, they think they can do it by then. What happens to the July 14th hearing? It's a preliminary hearing. >> I I could maybe answer that, Sarah. >> Okay. >> I I think from our perspective, from my client's perspective, we'd ask for a new court date after August 1st to come back, maybe August 14th-ish, mid-August to say, now look now we came up to August 1st, we took more pictures or we let the police back on to get more pictures and hey, you know, can we work out a deal on the criminal part of the case? You'd still have to make decisions. Well, I can let Sarah answer what would happen with the abatement then, but >> Okay. I'm sorry, Sarah. Go ahead. >> Um with the abatement, I mean, if it's not done, I mean, the criminal charges don't get the stuff off the property. That's that's the issue here. I mean, the consequences of the criminal charges are either paying a fine or going to jail. It does not do anything for cleaning up the property. So, I mean, he could be theoretically convicted of the crime. He could go to jail. He could pay the fine. That doesn't solve our problem of that there's still stuff on the property. So, in the event he is convicted, you know, we still have to clean up the property unless you don't want to do that. >> So, our we'd prefer to work with the with the property owner to clean up the property, but we would still issue the abate or the >> order >> the order. So, and we could put a date in there that we that maybe you think your client thinks that they could have it we'll say cleaned up. >> Yeah, if you're if you're hoping to I I could consult with him about what's realistic >> Okay. Okay. >> before you did that today if that's something you're interested in hearing his perspective of it. I've seen it. I don't have a good understanding of what needs to be cut up or moved off versus what can just go in the trailer versus vehicles are easier, I think, cuz you got to just get them on a trailer and get them out. Right. >> Well, if if you want to do that, um, I think we'd be open to that. Um, >> I would like to see those photos of the things that have been I'll I'll go back to the property at while you're still doing your business and bring them back. >> That'd be great. I'd like to see that. >> I went to the bathroom, too, but I think someone looked in the bathroom. So, I I have those. I also have some electronic ones um, that I can show you several. I mean, as much as that's helpful to you, it's >> Can you put those up to Jasper? >> Can can you uh, text them or email them to Jasper? >> If if got a card, I can just sit here when you're doing other work. >> Okay. >> Email them to someone to then revisit this matter. >> And maybe also talk with your client to see if um we we're not going to extend this to like November or December because we need to get it done. And um so if August 1st, August 15th, you tell us realistically what you really will do, okay? What you will do. Um so realistically, if August 1st isn't realistic, then give us a date that will work. >> Yeah. >> So >> And we get down to the details and I remember this from when I prosecuted these kinds of cases, you get down to the details of like, well, did you also mean that car? Because that one's got a sticker on it and it's licensed and you know, or that refrigerator or whatever. You get >> Those are issues that you could work out with the police department because they would know which ones are legal and which ones aren't. Um now, if you have a hundred cars that you think are legal, um probably not. >> No, but the large the large majority of one of these pictures I'll show you, um if not every single one of them is licensed and insured. So, I can I can >> Okay. >> that with with the chief as well, but I also wanted to mention um in the original violation section of the agenda item for today, I guess it is, it's the detailed agenda item, I guess it is. You know, it mentions the storage materials uh as an alleged violation, the home occupations, and the new nuisances. For home occupations, that business um Westwood Tree Works is referenced in there, and that's been shut down since I think the website's been shut down since last fall or maybe even last summer. Um there's no equipment there for that. The big truck for that is gone and that that business is not being run out of there. >> Okay. >> all the wood there is just for keeping the household uh warm now and and uh for maybe campfires or something, but >> Okay. >> Um so, >> Okay. >> again, I know that's something that we would help get documentation for and then maybe that nuisance item goes away goes away but >> Okay. All right. And like I said I'll keep the public hearing open for a while and then we'll wait for those pictures and you can talk to your client. It is a public hearing so if either Mr. Vanderlindy or Mr. Fred if you'd like to say anything you're welcome to come forward and >> Can I ask the question? Yes. Doesn't the the homeowner have two sons that live on the property as well? >> Yes. >> So he's not alone 80 some year old man doing this all by himself. He's got two adult sons that are helping him as well. >> Yeah I think I guess I don't know the details. I don't know if they live there or not and I don't know if they have other jobs or not. But I get your point and they are helping. >> Yeah. Thank you. >> He's using resources. He's he's spent some money to get get the work he's done by this I can't remember the name of the company right now but being bringing in big semi trucks. >> Yeah. And you know and you've informed your client and his sons so they clearly understand that if we do this then it's assessed to the property. And then it becomes a tax that you have to pay immediately. I mean You might want to talk to Okay. >> You do a good job here. My client is you staying in your lane. I'm a criminal defense attorney. >> Okay. >> Hopefully let you know about the progress but in terms of advising on the property issues if a if a suit is started as Tara mentioned he's going to have to retain separate counsel. >> Okay. Well we can explain as well maybe later later on in the meeting as to what that what the ramifications could potentially be. So Yeah. Okay. All right. Thank you. >> I texted All right. Um Mr. Hempel >> Yes, my name is Fred Hempel and I think if I'm I may be mistaken, but I thought I heard that the west side of the building was completely clear. I got news for you. It's not even close to clear. >> Well, we're we're going to find out eventually. >> I would might mention that it's a easy thing to find out. It's 5 minutes away. >> Right. Yeah. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Mr. Vander Lindy Again, I'm sorry. You do need to state your name and address for the record. Mr. Hempel, could you state your address to >> 9620 46th Street >> 9620 46th Street >> Watertown >> Watertown Thank you. >> I signed in. >> Yes, thank you. >> Hi, I'm Ken Vander Lindy. I live at 9450 West Hill Road, right off behind Bob. And I just want to say Bob and his boys, we've been neighbors for what, 30 years? >> 45 >> 45, yeah. He's got a heart of gold. Um and I try talking with him everything else and I know he's he's he's got a good intentions, but uh I hear things and I can attest there was a couple loads that were hauled out, big loads that were and and it's that's just a fraction of what's all there. So, it's a start and I was got going like got kind of excited and that was quite a while ago and there's been not much happening since. So, and that's basically what this is a been a long time is just it it's just a slow process and I see a few go out, but then I see more come back in. And side on my side of the field on there there was nothing in there last year last year it was and now that's just filled up. So, my main concern is, you know, I'm getting older too and if I want to sell my property and living next to that, that depreciates the value of my property something horrible and and I don't want to leave that to my kids. And and it's time to clean up there, you know, it's it's the mosquito control, it's it's pollution, it's it's stuff and I I have no hard feelings with Bob. We get along great, we talk and and Jerry we've done stuff for years years and years like you said lived together, but I just want to see the progress. I'm happy things are are starting to turn and and like I said I'm glad you can say this isn't going to go into the winter and and be prolonged prolonged. I mean it the weather's nice, there was nice weather a couple loads it should have been just get a week's worth of guys just going at it. You can make some progress, so I hope that I hope that that will happen. >> All right, thank you. Um all right. Anybody else um want to see anything? Um I'm going to keep it open or I can close it and then allow the attorney to speak again later. I mean that's You got the pictures? You have the You want to hand those to um our chief and he can hand those down. >> Yeah, I think this is kind of a big packet I don't know where you can find them on either end or something. >> However you want to do it I guess, but there's a bunch there big loads. I don't know if we should separate them or leave them all the same. That's kind of I don't know if it's >> Okay. That's the same one. Mhm. Mhm. Not sure that means. Is that the money he got for him or this looks like the truck that was on the listing. >> So, what's the annotation on the photos? There's like some numbers written across them. >> I think that's is this stuff related to >> You know how long it takes >> my glasses. >> Okay. Video, thank you. >> So, any other questions? So, I have a question. Um how has all this stuff accumulated? How how where Why do you have all this stuff on your property? >> Well, I think one of the things that happened is um that If I'm wrong, Bob. Where he takes this kind of stuff, aluminum, steel, um metal, copper, that kind of thing. In Minneapolis, there's a big plant where they process it, I guess. And they're pretty picky about how they take it, but they shut that down for Was it 90 days or more than that? 4 months? >> When? But but No no Mr. Vander Leahy, no. No no, I'm sorry. Um but when did they shut this down? >> I think over the winter it was shut down. And so, then you couldn't take it there. So, you had to kind of wait >> But, this has been accumulating for years and years and years. So, >> I mean, recently what what happened cuz someone said it it more came on the property up and it kind of built up during that time frame. I think over this past this past winter. But, I mean, big picture I think it's people people would literally dump things there um knowing that he'll go scrap them, right? When they're getting rid of them, right? Maybe some of the same people that are complaining about this dumping things on the property leaving it at night or on a weekend or whatever. And then they know, well, Bob will Bob will scrap it. So, I'm getting rid of it. Um I've heard at least of a couple instances of that. So, you got something you got to get rid of, you don't know how to cut it up or take it to a scrap place or whatever and the scrap guy does. In Carver where I live, we have this clean up days thing. You put it all on the curb. People come by and grab it who do this kind of thing and take it and make money >> May I ask of these numbers, for example, load number one eight vehicles $2,950. Is that what he is receiving for these vehicles or what he's paying to get rid of them? >> I'm not sure. >> Can you find out? >> Um what I guess >> That would be like a great incentive to get rid of things. >> Yeah, well, he's got a good incentive which is jail. I think with all due respect, I mean, that's that's kind of was my point about the criminal. That's where I have context around this, but I just I don't know if he wants to share his like personal finances on that, but I I can >> No, okay. >> Yeah, but you your point is it's an incentive if you're making money on this. Is that Is that your point? >> I think so. I think that's what we I would like to see him take this get some money out of all this thing that he's been doing and >> And that's he gets paid when he takes it down to this place in Minneapolis. So, yeah, I mean that's I mean, I guess the answer the really big answer to your question. Why is all this stuff accumulated? Cuz he can make money with it. Get it somewhere. >> All right. >> Just built up. >> So, I think um we have the photos. Um we've heard your story. Uh what I'm going to say is uh we can always So, is the August 1st first a deadline? Um what was Do you know? >> Should I talk about that before you move on or do you want me to take you to the phone in the hallway if you could do that? >> Sure. >> Well, I'll talk to them. You can let me know when you want us to report back. >> Okay. Um I'll give you 5 minutes. How's that? >> Yeah, that's great. >> Okay. All right. All right. So, we'll come back to that. Um So, we're going to go on to early voting. We'll do that next and then we'll go back to the um to the abatement issue. So, early voting 18-day option consideration. >> Madam Mayor, did you want to close the public hearing? >> Well, >> Do you want to keep it open? >> I have a comment if you want to go somewhere after you're done. >> So, what I'll do is maybe I'll keep it open just until they come back. And then if you if there's one more comment you would like to make, I'll allow that. But let's do the early voting um agenda item and then we're going to come back to the abatement item, okay? All right. >> Okay. Um uh Paula is presenting on that early voting item. >> Yeah. Uh with the new legislation that was um done in May, it resulted in a new law that requires municipalities to decide whether they want to administer uh the full absentee voting period um or to just administer the 18-day voting period. I didn't say that very well. Um I'll reward that. If we want to do the full absentee envelope voting system or if we want to transition to only processing the 18 days of direct ballot or early voting. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> I can explain more or if you guys want to vote, we can do it that way, too. >> I can answer your questions. Let me know. >> I guess the one question I had is is it peanut butter across all elections? Cuz I was just doing the math on the last presidential election cycle, that comes out to about 15 voters per hour for the entire 18-day period. So, are we just stuck with one-size-fits-all cuz it's a no-brainer for off-cycle elections. >> Sure. >> But, um >> Sorry. >> do we have the option to extend it for presidential years? >> We do not. So, if we decide to do it, it's primary and general. You know, we can change our mind. Like, we could do it for this election cycle. If it doesn't work, we can decide for the presidential to change it back to the full 46. Um One thing to remember, if you know, if we have five voters or if we have a hundred and whatever, we are still doing staff is still doing the same setup, the same process. So, it still takes the same amount of time, same amount of staff to do so. Um What was the rest of your question? >> No, I think you answered it. No, if you could switch back if this is >> You We can. You know, um it's it's not a we choose and this is what we live with. We do have to, if we decide to do it, we have to do it for the full cycle. >> Yeah, for >> So, every 2 years basically you could switch it up. >> we'd have to wait. If we want to go back, we'd have to do it for the presidential. We'd have to make that motion, but we can't choose to do it for the primary and not the general. >> Got it. >> Okay, but >> And people can still do the mail and >> Yeah. >> Yeah, so they still have a way to vote earlier than they could >> They can still vote. Yep. Um we do have some some voters who don't have trust in the in the system, so they can drop off their ballots here and they can be carried over to Hennepin County. >> How long is the window for mail-in ballots? >> Um, mail-in ballots that absentee voting starts on June 20 June 26th. >> It's a long time. >> It's a long time. So, and then the early voting starts on July 24th. And during early voting, people can still absentee vote. They can still vote by by mail during that time, too. They don't have to come in, but um we would have the option. They could come in and vote directly. >> Yeah, that seems seems good. >> Mhm. >> 18 sounds good. So, we'll go with 18 for this election cycle, see how it goes, and if the council desires to make a change 2 years from now or just keep it on the horizon on on the you know, so you can bring it back to the council saying, "Okay, this is what we did 2 years ago. Do you still want to keep it at 18 or do you want to change it?" And then you'll provide the statistics as well. >> Absolutely. Yeah, we will do that. >> Okay, so I do um I think there's a resolution. >> There's no resolution for that. >> Just one direction. Okay. >> We we'd prefer a motion. >> Motion. Yeah. >> Okay. So, is there a motion then to make early voting 18-day option consider consideration? >> So moved. >> Thank you, Mr. Vickery. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Thank you, Ms. Rifkin. Any other questions? Hearing none, all those in favor signify with I. I. All those opposed, motion passes. So, next um they're still out there, so we're going to go to the Westedge North Saunders Trail replacement, accept quotes, and award the contract. I believe that's Ms. Volsky. >> That is. Thank you, Mayor Whalen and Council. Included in your packet is a memo summarizing um the the Westedge Boulevard Trail project. As Council may recall, we included a bid alternate with the 2026 street improvement project for the trail replacement. And as I mentioned when council ordered that contract, there was a data entry error on the low bidder for the street improvement project. And so council awarded the street improvement project without that bid alternate. And there was that provided council with a 70 just a little over $79,000 uh quote bid that was better for the street improvement project. So since then we did prepare the package as a separate quote package and sent it out to a couple contractors. We received pardon me, we sent it to four contractors. Now one of the things that changed from the time that this was bid to the time that it was quoted is public works went and got some cores out there and we realized that instead of it being a mill and overlay it's it's a removal and replacement. So that was some good diagnostic work that the public works department did. So we provided that information along with the quote package to four contractors. We got two quotes back, one from JBT black topping that's done quite a bit of work for public works. However, they did not provide traffic control or sodding as that's not work that they perform and they do not have a uh a relationship with a with a subcontractor for that. And then we also got a quote from WM Mueller which is a contractor for the 2026 street improvement project. And as it works out that Mueller's quote for the asphalt work was lower than JBT JBT's quote. So we felt very comfortable providing council with a recommendation to award the contract to WM Mueller. We also included in the quote package an alternate for removal because that is work that public works could perform. Public works reviewed Mueller's quote for removals and indicated that it is lower for Mueller to do that work than for city forces to do that. Um so with that we are uh making a recommendation that council um accept the base bid and the bid alternate um and award the contract to WM Mueller and Sons in the amount of $61,283.40. And uh the improvements would be paid for by the park fund. And I'd be happy to answer any questions council may have. >> Thank you. Council, any questions? >> Uh you mentioned that the current uh asphalt isn't thick enough to do a mill and overlay. Well, if will this current replacement allow us to do that in the future? >> Yes. Um that's a good question. So we did work we did um look at the pavement thickness so that we could be able to perform a mill and overlay in the future. >> Okay, sure. Oh, so how thick is it going to be? >> I believe we put it in as 3 in. >> Thank you. All right. Um any other questions? Otherwise, is there a motion to approve or accept the quotes and award the contract to WM Mueller and Sons in the amount of $62,283.40 for the Saunders Trail Replacement West Edge and North Saunders Trail Replacement. >> So moved. >> Thank you, Mr. Govern. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Thank you, Ms. Brekken. Further questions? Hearing none, all those in favor signify with aye. >> Aye. >> All those opposed, motion passes five oh. So we're going to move back to the public hearing. Mr. Van Der Linde, you wanted to make another one more comment. If you could come forward to the podium so you're on the camera. >> Yeah. On like when you said the they were shut down Minneapolis, there is about 20 30 scrap yards. There's not just one scrap yard. So there there's there's there's millions of scrap yards down there to assess the stuff. And as your question about there is value. There's lots of value in this deal. So, it's really it's a matter That's why it's it's kind of upsetting is why is it so piling up when when you're I I understand that it fluctuates and and I haul a lot of scrap. We clean up lots of farm sites and stuff like that. So, I just wanted to help clarify some of this stuff here. >> Sure. Thank you, Mr. Vander Landey. All right. Uh Mr. Schultz, you're back up. >> Okay, you now should have some pictures in your email or real soon, hopefully. Um I did have a chance to speak to my client. Thank you. I appreciate that cuz you're willing to talk about what a real deadline is and and and give him an opportunity to to meet that deadline. So, I appreciate that. He appreciates it, too. And he thinks September 1st would be realistic. Um they're going to have a lot of work to do >> Yeah. So, >> this summer. >> Okay. If the council agrees to that, I just want to make it also clear to to your client, Mr. Bosma and his sons, what could potentially happen if it doesn't. It's not just the criminal aspect, but it's also then the abatement would move forward and any costs that the city would incur due to that abatement process would then be put on the tax roll of the property and it has to be paid for in the very next year. It can't be like over 20 years. You have to come up with those funds immediately. So, I just want to make that really clear. Um and then if it's not if then if those taxes are not paid, then the property goes into foreclosure. Okay? So, I want to make it very very clear that huge ramifications here that you could potentially um experience. Uh this is This isn't something to take lightly. And we're serious about cleaning up this property. So, Council, would you be okay with the September 1st abatement? >> Yes. >> Okay. So, we're I think we'll be fine with the September 1st abatement, and we'll go forward with that. So, the abatement order will be issued, and you'll have until September 1st, and after that, good luck. >> I I just I just need to say for the record, so I've told Mr. Basma I can't represent him. I don't represent him on the abatement issue, right? On real property issues versus the criminal matter, but um I'll make sure he understands what you just said if he doesn't, or get him counsel that can explain it. >> Okay, thank you. >> And I assume sure you'd be open to having him come back for clarification if he needs. >> He can talk to staff. Absolutely. Yeah, Mr. Basma, if you have questions, or if your sons have questions, I would highly recommend that you talk to staff, and they they can direct you, or give you the information you would need. Okay? All right. Sarah, what what do you need? >> Uh Madam Mayor, members of the Council, you have a resolution in your packet that will basically authorize the abatement. And in order to keep things moving, I would suggest that you approve the resolution tonight with the change that the deadline is now September 1st instead of August 1st. >> Okay, thank you. All right, Council, um anybody want to make a motion? It would be resolution number 64-26 declaring 9550 West Hill Road a public nuisance and issuing an abatement order changing the deadline to September 1st from the August 1st deadline that's in our packet. >> I'll move. >> Thank you, Mr. Vickery. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Thank you, Ms. Rifkin. Is there any other questions or discussion? >> My question is, does does this gentleman understand what you just said? >> I think his sons and he um fully understand what what we've just been discussing and Mr. Basma is also shaking his head yes. >> Okay, thank you Mr. Basma. >> All right. All right. Any other questions? Hearing none, all those in favor signify with I. I. All those opposed, motion passes five all. All right. So that concludes our public hearing. I'm going to close the public hearing at this time and we're going to move on to our next item on the agenda. Thank you for coming. Yeah. >> Not yet. I'll I'll send you an email when I get them. >> That would be appreciated. Yeah. Thank you. All right. Um next we have um let's see. And next we have the pavement maintenance accepted uh yeah that let's see. That's the Yeah, we're kind of going back and forth and back and forth here. Um and then last one out, could you close the door if you want to be out in the hall? So if you don't mind. All right. They're going out so that's fine. All right. Next um uh pavement maintenance accept bids and award the contract and could you also maybe explain a little bit because this was done in conjunction with Excelsior. I think that's great. Um I really would like to see things like that happen more often if possible. So um good job there. >> Certainly. Uh thank you Mayor and members of council. At the April 20th meeting, council approved plans and specifications for the 2026 pavement maintenance maintenance project. It includes uh a surface treatment such as crack fill, seal coat, fog seal, and pavement rejuvenator. This was a joint project with the city of Excelsior. Among staff, we had a discussion and thought that it would be a good option to bring forward to council to do a joint project with other communities. By generating a larger project, we we we typically hear that we're getting better pricing and I think council can see that in the in the the bids that were received here. The cost savings for the contractor certainly is mobilization when we can we can partner with with adjacent communities. So, due to the size of the the pavement maintenance project, we went out for bid and we ended up we just bid both projects just to keep everything clean and and and the same instead of doing one coal package, one bid package. Included in the packet is the is a summary of the bids that were received. So, I'm I'm on page 61. I include a summary of the bids that were received project. Now, that's the total project cost. So, Allied Blacktop Company is low the low bid for the crack fill, seal coat, and fog seal. We also received a bid from Pearson Brothers. And then the engineer's estimate was was in between the two there. And then we also received one bid from Corrective Asphalt Materials for the pavement rejuvenator, which they call Reclamite. And that that bid came in under the engineer's estimate as well. Council may recall I believe it was last year we only received one bid for that pavement rejuvenator. That's it's a newer product and so we're I'm not surprised to see only one bid. I know that there are other contractors that are starting to get into the rejuvenator, but we've we feel very comfortable with Corrective Asphalt and the the product that they provide. >> do that last year for >> They did and we included in the in the the bid package um for them to install they call them booms but it's basically like a filter um within the catch basins so that if there were any runoff from the product yes it would like like >> I was just going to ask you. >> That's a very good question so um no I I can I say most confidently that we'd we'd do it nobody wants a repeat from last year. >> Right. >> Um I'm sure they don't either. >> They do not they do not they they certainly stepped up and took care of it so we're very grateful for that but we don't want that to happen. Um so further along on page 61 um I broke down the Minnetrista portion of the project costs um so we're at just over 57,000 for the rejuvenator portion of the project and then uh 271,250 for the um pavement maintenance components. So uh in the Excelsior Council um is is considering this this evening I I don't anticipate that they would have any issues with this we've set up the contracts so that um you know the project would be pay voucher for Minnetrista work comes to Minnetrista pay voucher for um Excelsior work goes to Excelsior so there's no no need for any bookkeeping um for Minnetrista to to invoice Excelsior we're going to keep those separate should the council award the contract so uh we are confident with both contractors in recommending award of the contract and I'm happy to answer any questions council may have. >> Yeah I have a question. Can you just reclaim it is that put on after the pavement is down? Um it's like a sealant? >> Yeah so this is where your city engineer is kind of like the jack of all trades master of none. So my pavement rejuvenator um there's um what it does it it helps with the for my understanding that the the elasticity of the the pavement in there. So there's a there's a window of time where a rejuvenator can go in there and and the the intent is to go and rejuvenate the binding material I'm boring and I know I'm boring. I'm sorry, but the binding material of of that cuz it's a flexible pavement. It's the idea is to keep it flexible. >> Okay. >> So, that's what the rejuvenator does. Um Gary can certainly pop in here and and if if I've missed something, um but that's that's my 10,000 ft under >> Okay, and then generally when when do you apply the reclamate then? How what's the window of opportunity? Put it that way. >> Um I believe ideally within 2 years but and I think maybe three, but I I don't from what I recall from conver- I know Gary's spoken to the contractor quite a bit. Um I think it's within two to four years of of initial paving. >> Okay. >> I see Gary's unmuted himself. >> Okay. Gary, do you need to add anything? I guess the answer is no. >> No, it's it that answers my question. >> Yeah, it's fairly new pavement to answer your question. Um it's not something that you would put on a 10-year-old street because at that point it's oxidized too far and you're not rejuvenating pavement. >> Okay. >> And how long long do we anticipate that that will extend the life of the road? >> I I'm going off memory on the studies. They've they've had um what would normally have been a let's say a 30-year life or 40-year life, I think we're getting another 10 to 15. Um And do you have to reapply it too then? >> I think if if I remember correctly, pavement rejuvenators have two applications. And then at that point, they're saying you're you're not going to it's a diminishing return. >> Yeah. Yeah. Okay. >> So, I think that's really good you know, it's good that we have a a contractor that's very upfront and honest as far as the limitations if you will on on the the application of that. Yeah. Um and and they have they I don't remember it specifically but I have looked through their studies um that show the the longevity. >> Yeah. And you know for for the cut the cost and the benefit um especially if it extends the life even 10 years, you know, uh really is good especially when we're struggling to kind of keep up with all of the road roads that we currently have. >> Yeah and I I know Gary Peters has has done a lot more um I he was really the one that that really um brought this in and did a lot of research on this on the forefront. So I really appreciate the work that he's done on it. Um so I'm I'm very confident in what I've read and based on what Gary's um investigated as well. >> Well, I know Gary's pretty thorough and um if he's recommending it then then it's a good thing. So all right. Do you know why Pearson Brothers was so much higher than Allied? >> So that's a good So we did come in on the middle um for the engineers estimate we always like to come in on the middle so we just lucked out on that. So um so without talking to them generally um when we see one contractor higher and one contractor lower the higher the higher bid they might have some work already um and so I think they probably looked at this project. I know they were interested obviously to submit a bid. And then we saw a lower um bid from Allied and they they do good work and you know, maybe they they just don't have their crews busy enough yet and so they're looking to fill up with some work and so they provided us with some pricing that came in under our estimate. So it's it's not unusual to see um a delta as you as you know in in street improvement projects and and I think pavement maintenance is is along the same lines. >> Yeah. >> Yes. >> Um Gary was trying to talk. He's having some technical difficulties. He did give me the sequence of events. So, you have you you pave the road year one. >> Mhm. >> Year two, you do the Reclamite. >> Okay. >> Then you do a year Reclamite again at five years after that, and then another five years after that. So, there's three applications. >> okay. All right. >> And then, you know, throughout the process you're you know, evaluating the road surface to see how it's reacting and things like that. So, >> Yeah. >> um We'll We'll get there eventually. I don't know when the the first time we did Reclamite was if it was 2022. >> We That was I rely heavily on Gary with those. >> So, but we'll work through that sequence and we'll we'll see how it how it goes. >> Okay. All right. Thank you. Okay. Um Council, any other questions? Otherwise, um so let me just get this straight. The um The motion should be is it for the full amount or just for the amount that Minnetrista will be on the hook for? >> Um Mayor Whalen, if I were to I'm just going We're accepting the bids and then I believe the way I set up I'm just Okay, here we go. So, in the in the resolutions, I've included um that the total pri- I've included both the total project amount and Minnetrista's portion. So, >> Okay. >> if if unless um City Attorney uh Sansala has uh a recommendation otherwise, I I would be comfortable if you just adopted the resolution as as as presented because it covers you on both that we're awarding the contract. >> But I've specified what Minnetrista's anticipated portion is unless Finance Director Grodahl >> And then, just one other question real quick. Should for some reason rather Excelsior not want to do this and they say no, we're we're not going to do this, do we Are we Can we still do this for the 271? >> Mayor Whelan, that's a good question. I don't anticipate that the contractor would have an issue with doing that. So typically how these contracts work there are there are unit price contract and so there's a certain amount if you if you're not using a certain percentage of the unit prices as you bid it. Um Okay, I don't recall off the top of my head but I don't anticipate that that would be an issue. >> I just don't want to be on the hook for the 353. That's all I'm saying basically. >> Yes, that's a good question. So unit price contract so you would only pay for what they what work they have done. >> All right, so the motion will be to accept um uh the bids and award the contract for the 2026 pavement maintenance project with the total price being 353,226 and then Minnetrista's portion being 271,250 and then also um provide or also giving the corrective asphalt materials the 89431 of which Minnetrista will be paying 57,604. Correct? All right. >> You need two motions, right? Cuz there's two resolutions. I think that's right. >> Yeah, we we can do them together. I mean >> It's >> Yeah. >> As long as it's clear >> as it's clear. >> both of them, yes. >> Right. All right. So I just stated the motion. Is there a motion to that or is there a um >> Motion to approve resolution 66-26 accepting the bids for crack fill, seal coat, and fog seal portion and a motion to approve resolution 67-26 accepting the bids for the recon light portion of the 2026 pavement management maintenance project. >> Is there a second? >> Second. >> Thank you, Mr. Govern. Any questions? Hearing none, all those in favor signify with I. >> I. >> All those opposed, motion passes by vote. That concludes all of our business items and next we move on to administrative items. Future agenda items. >> Yes, Madam Mayor, members of City Council. This is our first first go at kind of outlining some future agenda items. So, I can talk briefly about them. If you have questions, please please let me know. Uh but we will have our tobacco ordinance at the work session on the 15th. We'll have that lift assist ordinance uh to review at the work session on the 15th. Brian will start doing his 2027 budget kickoff at the 15th. And then we'll be doing um a water rate adjustment. So, as as we go to monthly billing, we're also adjusting for that monthly billing um on the 15th. And that's going to be at the work session. We've we've talked about this during the budget process last year, but then at the regular meeting we're going to be asking you to to approve those um that amendment to the fee schedule. >> Okay. >> Yep. Um >> Get through all those items? >> Oh, yeah. >> Kind of a lot. >> Uh well, the I think so. I mean, the the two tobacco and lift lift assist ordinances are pretty pretty quick, I think. Um >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> All right. Okay. >> Um and then on the then on the 15th >> Yeah. >> And then we also have a a land lease for cell cell tower discussion on the 15th as well. So, we have some terms that are more favorable than what we had previously. So, >> All right. >> Um and then the other last thing is on the the 13th of July we have a water meter software update. So, there's a a required update to our water meter software that we're >> And that'll be on work session? >> work session on the on the 13th. >> And um can I ask Miss Lacey, you wanted something you wanted to ask about adding something at that point to the >> So, >> to our work session? >> Yeah, for work. Yes, I would like to add that we have some discussion about our current ATV ordinance. Um it just seems a bit restrictive and one of the points seems incredibly restrictive and I think just about every single person that lives on water in Minnetrista is probably violating it at least once a week. So, >> Well, we should discuss it. >> So, we'll probably have to put that on the 713 work session then. Because we've already got >> Sure. >> you know. So, is >> Maybe everyone can read it and take a peek and >> Is everybody okay with that? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> All right. >> You're welcome. Um, so we'll add that to the 713 work session cuz I don't anticipate the water meter software update will be too lengthy. >> No. It's just a matter of getting getting front of you guys. >> Yeah. >> Um, and at a future City Council meeting adopting it and and implementing in '27. >> All right. And uh staff reports? >> I don't have anything. >> David, do we need somebody for a plan for planning? >> June 22nd. >> June 20th, well, I can't. I know I can't. Um >> It'll probably be a parks meeting before that, too. >> There will be. >> Yeah. What what is on the agenda? Do you know? >> The Planning Commission, there's three different items on the Planning Commission agenda and the Parks Commission's going to talk about the event in the park. >> Okay. Okay. >> I could do that. >> You So, Peter Peter could do it. All right. All right. >> All right. >> Thank you, Peter. Any other staff reports? We have a bus tour tomorrow. Um, almost full. There's a few seats left. So, if you're interested, you can join us still. Um Anything police related? Okay, we're good. Um, Council reports? >> None for me. >> None for me. >> And >> Uh, well, I had attended the Pioneer Sarah Creek Watershed meeting and uh the Hennepin County representatives mentioned that they have uh, I think it was about a million and a half to distribute uh, for various environmental projects and I mentioned it to Jasper and Kirsti knew about it already and had applied for some help with Lyle Park. But he did say that we never get anything. >> Well, well, here's the thing. Well, no, no. But here's the thing. We did apply for some grants for parks and then I think Commissioner Anderson said, "Hey, next time you apply um let me give you some pointers because it's based they do they go through and they give you points. And so it depends on how you word it and how you So maybe if we're going to apply for parks grants, then we should probably talk with with the county to see how we can move on up in the in the ratings. >> Well, and if I may, David knows better than I, but I think we have gotten some of these funds in the past. It's just taken I think three three iterations. >> Yeah. >> Us giving more money. >> Yeah. >> Manage. >> Okay. Yeah. Yeah, I think they like to see at least like 50% or even >> the same process in the ones that we've been awarded that we don't get awarded. So >> Okay. >> The key to this is raise our amount. >> Our amount. Okay. Maybe we'll have to talk about that. We'll bring it up at the park commission. See what they think. >> It's up to you. >> Yeah. >> It's your money. >> Well, let's So we Well, you know, put that on the 713 work session. Would that be too late? >> We already We already We're already in applied. So we're you know, we're a whole another cycle out. >> Oh, okay. Okay. >> Get some money more money in and then we can >> And then we can talk about it. Okay. We'll put it on your radar then. All right. Thank you. All right. Anything else, Peter? >> Nope. That's it. >> All right. Kathleen? >> Um I attended the parks and the planning commission meeting the other week, which was last week. Um planning commission was just the one item that we approved the um the house on the property. Uh Parks Commission, they focused on the um Party in the Park. They picked a date. It will be Tuesday, July 14th from 5:00 to 7:00. They're going to look into getting food trucks, possible an ice cream truck. Um I recommended they reach out to Mackenthun's for um possible donations. Um they thought you got the bounce house last year. >> We bought it from a church. I don't um I don't remember that church. Um Freshwater Church, I think it was. Donated their bounce They came with their bounce house. >> I think they were planning on reaching out to you about playing with that again. >> Okay. >> Um they were going to see about getting it posted on Facebook and then um they're going to meet in June to finalize it. Um they they wanted to know if there's any information the city wants to hand out at the event, flyers or maybe stuff for the 2050 comp planning of people involved or just any news that's happening, any just basically paperwork to hand out or any stuff like that. Yeah. Um but that was the main thing, so we'll see how they do. They seem excited about it. >> Yeah. And it was a great turnout last time. Um I don't know if we did it last year or not, but anyhow, the first time we did it was a really big turnout. That was great. Let's see. Um are we attending the Northwest League on Wednesday um next Wednesday and uh we'll be getting a legislative update from uh the League of Minnesota Cities and of course all of you were there. Um we did the um groundbreaking, if you will, um for the our water treatment plant. It's really exciting. Um we're seeing it come to fruition. This is something that we've been working on for the past 4 to 5 years and uh yeah, and now it's now we're seeing the nuts and bolts and we're seeing the progress. So, this is exciting for our community. It'll be 2 years before it's up and running, but um after that, then we can um address the water tower that needs to be repainted and refurbished. So, but um uh that's really it for me, I think. Um Regional Council of Mayors, Minnehaha Creek, um and I also reached out to Minnehaha Creek Watershed District to find out what they're doing on the property on Painters Road, the property that they purchased recently that they were going to be doing some um BMPs on for water quality for Jennings Bay. So, I'm I'm just kind of curious as I drove by there and it was kind of a mess, so I'm just kind of curious as I know it will look great. I know it will look wonderful once it's done, but I was kind of curious as to what they're doing and what what's what the event or what the end result will look like. So, that's all I have. >> I just have one more. Um it's kind of a side note. I know at the last meeting with the um outsourcing of the water bills, I was curious how many hours staff takes on calls and what they do in the process if there's complaints or whatever. And just emailing Brian, found out that they don't actually track how many calls they get about the water bills or whatnot. So, I wanted to know Council staff on possibly having them start tracking them in July just so we can know if they're getting more complaints about Infosen, the new rates, just something super simple. I just create a spreadsheet and just put tally marks on it for whoever answers the phone like no like phone call on this, just check it. Like no info needed, no anything else just so if there are a lot of complaints, we can see it. If it's high in July and then stops in August, just so we can track in case there's a huge demand on staff time, we'll have documentation to support that, which will make decisions if they do need more staff or it's not going well, we'll know. We'll have the documentation, which obviously everyone knows I like. So, >> I'm going to guess a lot of the calls are going to be for water rates or how come I'm getting two bills? I just paid my bill. Those are going to be the primary um uh questions or or calls that we're going to be getting. Um but that's fine. Um if Do you think that um staff can do that pretty easily? >> Yeah, like a sheer sheet that is folded >> Yeah, I mean just something sitting by there they just mark it and like it's super easy. Yeah, yeah, get some data. All right. Great. So is there anything else? I don't know if I can ask this question but and if I can't that's fine but I'll ask question then don't answer it. I'd like to know about the police officers that were terminated. What I would what I would recommend that's that's kind of a sensitive issue because it's so I would say you should talk offline to Paula and or Craig. Thank you. At this point I would like to thank officer White for his long service with us. I was very sad to see that he was leaving cuz I remember him from one of our first national nights out in Woodland Cove and he was like yeah, I'm officer B White and it was just hilarious and he totally played up his name and it was just funny. He had a very good sense of humor with the kids. Yes. Yes, officer White will definitely be missed. Excuse me. He held pretty much every every sort of position he could have in the police department and I think that has something to do with that he was DTF and SRO and various other elements so now he's moving on to the county so Yeah, all right. Thank you. Are you going to have some kind of a farewell for him? Yeah, we're still working on it. We're he's we're actually doing a shoot his last day so it's going to be a full day we're here so Can you keep me posted then? Let me know when. Okay, thank you. All right, thank you. All right, is there a motion to adjourn? So moved. Thank you. Is there a second? Second. Thank you Mr. Gavin. All those in favor signify with the eye. Eye. All those opposed motion passes and we are adjourned. Thank you. All right. Captain come office weapon.