with you, please turn them on silent or airplane mode so they don't disrupt the meeting. And second, I'd like to ask all of you to join us for pledge of allegiance. I >> pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. So, welcome everyone here this evening and also for those of you watching us on YouTube um later on. I'm going to start with some um introductions. I'm Lisa Whan and I'm the mayor. And to my left we have council members Kathleen Revkin, Peter Vickery, Claudia Lacy, and Brian Govern. And staff present this evening we have Allison Fauski who is our city engineer with WSB. Gary Peters is our um public works director, director of public works, public works director, whichever you want. And uh and then um next to Gary, we have Paula Bowman, who is our assistant administrator. Next to me on my right, we have Jasper Krugal. He is our city administrator. Then we have Brian Grim. He is our finance director. David Ael is our community development director. And then on the end, we have our chief of police, Craig Squires. We also have a couple of staff members participating um electronically or uh via Zoom, what is it called? I guess Teams. Okay. And that's Annne Meerhoff who is our city clerk. She's taking notes. And is Sarah with us, too? >> Uh Ron Batty is going to be >> Oh, Ron. Hi, Ron. >> He's not quite in yet. >> Okay. Well, and Ron Batty will be showing up. He is our um city attorney and uh sitting in for uh Sarah Salo, who is normally here, but Ron used to be our attorney. So, we're happy to have him back with that. Um, I'll move we've done that approval of agenda. Is there anything else we need to add or subtract from the agenda? Hearing none. Is there a motion to approve the agenda as presented? >> So moved. >> Thank you, Miss Refkin. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Thank you, Mr. Vicky. Any further questions? All those in favor signify with I. I. >> All those opposed. Motion passes. 5. Tonight we have two special uh presentations. So we're going to start out with the Gillespie Center update and that is Brian Embry. >> You got it. >> Thank you. You come to the podium please. So welcome Brian and we're glad you're here to give us an update on the Gillespie Center which of course we are a supporter of. >> Of course. Thank you so much for having me today. Yes, my name is Brian Embry. Um, this is a pseudo presentation that I'm going to try to cram as much as I can into without making everyone look at the slides that I presented for very long and I will I'll uh oh, better yet, I do get to control it. So, I will move through these as I do. So, I wanted to share a very brief introduction. Uh, my name is Brian Embry. I am the director of the Gillespie Center. I have been there for about four months. So, there is a whole new world coming at me. Um but having said that uh for the last 15 years I have had a uh a profit in the non I have had a career in the nonprofit field as a director working for um YMCA's all over the country um for the Volunteers of America recently here in Minnesota for the Volunteers of America Minnesota and Wisconsin. Um, and so I I got to tell you, as I was doing my re research to come and prepare um to present to the city of Minatrist, I did see that um Mayor Lisa Whan recently won the CC Ludwig Award and I wanted to give you a huge shout out that um what really stood out to me about that award is that um it emphasizes a commitment to public good and that is 100% also the reason why I am here today. Um I am here to thank you to say thank you recently or I shouldn't say recently in the recent year um 2026 the one we are in right now um we received a donation from the city of Minitrista that for a um community center such as ours that does not have a large entity tied to it that does not have a specific city that provides our funding year overyear um this helps us it helps us in a lot of different ways and that is what I'm here to share with you first and foremost $10,000 um donation that we received from the city of Minatrista helped us with some [snorts] essential facility updates in 2026. I like to think of this as us protecting our investment. Um our summer ever since I have hit here has been ripe with um addressing maintenance needs all of which are turning 25 26 years old which if you are a homeowner you are very aware that's typically when you might want to be looking at your roof, looking at your air conditioning, looking at your boilers and that's exactly what we've had done at the Gillespie Center. Um, we did have a new AC unit installed in June. Um, we have an all-new thermostat and um, vent control system that is all electronic. Um, helping us join the 21st century. Um, and keeping in line with uh, our our commitment to safety for our members, we did have new sprinkler heads in our kitchen area, in our walk-in cooler installed, new boilers, and uh, coming soon, we will be having a new roof installed on the Gillespie Center. Um, all really good news for us and the city of Minitrista's donation allowed us to be able to um, you know, finish with a break even margin as we navigate our our fiscal year, right? And these were very essential things that are not going to be taking place every single year. [snorts] Um, that donation also helped us with >> uh, [laughter] continuation of our services and programming. Um, if you have been on this city council or if you've attended this meeting sometime in the last year, you're going to see a lot of similar programs that we um offered last year as well as um just very basic ones that we are consistently doing our best to enhance andor um introduce new programming. Um so, as you can see up here, we have all the things that uh the GSU Center has done in the past. Um, I threw an additional note in there because we did just wrap up our 2026 cruises in partnership with Allen Almas. Um, and we did serve over a thousand individuals um, on those boat cruises. I literally just finalized with Alen Alma's before I walked out for this meeting that we are going to be doing another fall foliage cruise for our seniors that I could not be more excited about. That's insider information. I just want to [laughter] mum's the word and not a good place to have the flyer ready to go tomorrow. So, That's just extra advertising for us. Um, and lastly, the city of Minatrista helped us define community support. Um, together with financial support from our neighbors, the Gillespie Center's general operating fund finished 2025 with a break even margin. This was only possible due to the generosity and commitment to the Westa senior citizens and as you can see, our large partners, um, our our two Lions groups and then the four major cities. Um, and then as you can also see, fundraisers, fundraisers that we do, um, all throughout the year. I led with the Langden because Claudia did partner with us and helped us raise approximately $1600 this summer. And what we like to say at the Gillespie Center is that we didn't have to raise a we didn't have to lift a finger to make that happen. So, a huge shout out to Claudia. >> Um, but as you can see, not just the Langden, all of our community partners that help with our fundraisers and fundraisers um, that we do over at the Gillespie Center. So, I share all of that with you at least or to plant the seed to help you understand kind of where we're at right now. Um, I have only been there for about four months. I have not had an opportunity to develop my own strategic plan, but I do have inklings that will go into my strategic plan and that is a part of what I wanted to share with each of you tonight. Um, moving forward, >> [snorts] >> um, I'm starting here. I'm starting with the existing um partnerships and relationships that the Gillespie Center has pursued historically to request funding to help make our operations run. Um but in in my career to date, I do have extensive um grant writing, grant management experience. Um I'm very familiar with a large number of 501c3 grants that I've identified in my short period of time the Gillespie Center is not pursuing. And it is my perception four months into this job that because of all of our um fundraising, our programs, contributions from our partners like Lions and Cities, um they help us with that break even. And I really truly believe that uh pursuance of grants is is ultimately going to help keep the Gillespie Center solvent and that is ultimately our goal. Um and then part two is implementing new and improved programs. I don't throw that term around lightly. What I will say is that um I have worked in community centers all over this country and I identify that there is um opportunity at the Gillespie Center. It's actually one of the main reasons why I took the job and why I'm really really excited to work there. It is a very unique opportunity. Uh our board members give me quite a bit of autonomy to identify which programs we think are going to best meet the needs of our members and uh and I'm diving into those things early yet, but I'm really really excited about the future. Our ask um is to support us and there's multiple ways to go about supporting us. Um what I will say is yes, our ask does come with a request for consideration for a financial donation from the city of Minitrista, very similar to what we received um in the most recent um year. But having said that, it's not a requirement, right? Uh the Gillespie Center is going to be there. We're going to continue to do everything that we can to offer great programs to our to our members to the community members of the West Tonka area. Um, and the donation that we receive from all the cities really helps put us over the edge. I throw this out there just in continuation of what I know has been gone over in the past. um in in place of any you know monetary contribution we could receive from the city. You can see other ways that we receive support and it really does go a long way. Um our city communications, following us on and sharing our events on social media, inviting others to like and share our posts. I make those Facebook posts. I get one or two likes every time. You guys can certainly help me out. Um always considering a donation. Um consider becoming one of our supporters. Um, and then as always, if you are interested in in volunteering at the Gillespie Center, you get to go through me. Um, so certainly reach out to me at any given time, I would love to put you to work. For the sake of time, I'm not going to dive into this, but I did want to include within our slide revisiting the vision, mission, and values. You know, we vision a um a thriving community at the Gillespie Center, and that is only possible with the support of everyone within our surrounding communities. Um, our mission is that we are dedicated to providing a prosperous and supportive environment, culture, and space to enrich the lives of our community members of all ages. Um, one thing I did not touch on too much, but would be an emphasis on our tech support program. In my four months that I've worked at the Glasp Center, our tech support program by far and large is our number one most utilized resource. Our seniors coming in and asking for help support with their iPads, phones, laptops. >> I'm going to I'm going to be in there tomorrow asking for help with hands. >> [laughter] >> Um, full disclosure, I do that. I do that myself and I do not have any advanced IT um, experience, training, knowledge whatsoever. But I do have a drive to help people solve problems. And I do know how to go about reaching out and identifying individuals who can help with those things. And I think strong relationship building will help me find the partners, the volunteers, individuals who can help me expand these programs. And I'm very much so looking forward to doing that in the West area. >> All right. You could take a breath. [laughter] >> I could have really drawn that out. Everybody's trying to get through it as quickly as possible. I want to say thank you guys for having me. Um, I appreciate any form of consideration that can be given to the Gillespie Center receiving a future donation. I will answer any and all questions as transparently and forthright as I possibly can. If you guys have any, I would like to answer them now before >> I think I think it's in our budget. So, um I think you'll receive um the donation again next year. So, um glad you're here and welcome. So, yes. >> My mother taught me when you get uh get what you came to ask for, leave. So, >> yes. Thank [laughter] you. Thank you, Brian. Thank you. All right. Um so, next uh we have a special presentation from the LMCD or Lake Minnotonka Conservation District, David Krugo, and our representative, Jane Anderson Thomas. Do you go by Jane Anderson Thomas or you want? >> Okay. Well, welcome. Thank you for coming. >> It's a pleasure to be here to present to you all for the first time um as your new representative to LMC. And I'd like to introduce He's newish. It's been a year. David Krueger, our new executive director. >> Thank you for the introduction, uh Mayor Council. I was here once last year when I first got here. So, I've now been here officially just over a year. uh and it's been uh very interesting. So, LMCD uh as you know regulates uh basically everything on the surface of Lake Minnetonka. Uh and uh we have evolving things that we do and some things that we've done in the past that are coming back which I'll talk about here in just a moment. So, here's the agenda uh today. So we'll talk about our 2027 budget, the history of that uh the city dues uh and uh highlights of expenses, revenue and current LMCD initiatives. So our budget history really to understand where we were, where we came from, and where we're going. Uh in 2020, the AIS program ended. Uh that was the harvesting program as well. Uh and so in the next chart you'll see how dues and our budget was affected by that. So uh that ended in 2020 and 21 uh the dues were still at the same level as you'll see in the next graph. Uh and then in 22 to 25 essentially uh based on our reserves uh and our auditor uh we were to spend our uh reserves down to 35%. So that's what our auditor uh has suggested. Our board began to do that. So your dues were less for several years and in 2026 they came back up at 375 which it was in 2021. Uh and so in 2027 uh unfortunately we do have to restore some of the financial stability as in 2026 we overshot the 35% with expenses that were uh unexpected essentially. So that number now is about 21% of roughly at the end of this year. So we're going to try to get back up to 35. So here's municipal dues from 2021 through 27. So as you'll see in 2021 was 375 went down 300 255 for the 3 years spending on our reserves. uh back up to 2000 in 2026 back up 375 which the board indicated in 2001 they wanted to do once they hit that 35% and this year's dues are 440 total. Now I will say that even though our dues went up our budget has decreased over the last uh this year over the last three years. So, uh, dues and revenue, uh, what they'll do is fund our operations, uh, and rebuild reserves as I've talked about to get back up 35% which our auditor says is the right number to be at, continue having full-time executive directors. So, in 2022 to 2025, we had a part-time director, uh, Jim Burmire, if you know Jim. Yes. Uh and so um so he was doing that as the board took time to decide what type of executive director they wanted and uh what that new strategic uh vision would be like and to restore our budget or excuse me our reserves back up 35%. So our expense highlights so overall expenses are lower again staff is doing more with less. So, uh, just for an example, our past budget was two 610,000. This year it'll be 603 and that's with about $45,000 in new spending. So, we're actually reducing our budget from the past. Uh, so uh we want to retain our our staff uh that we have to do more work. Uh, we got rid of some consults and things. We're doing in-house instead. Uh, looking at uh we put cloud storage up here, but essentially our server is down. we had to go to a a cloud-based system. All our network, all our IT is really old. We're revamping that to modern times. Uh and also you'll see on some other slides going to AI technology. So we're using AI financial software, AI on field inspection software and so forth. So uh that'll be with field tablets out in the field. So dues per city this talks about the dues per city as you can see Minitrista uh there basically your market value gone up quite a bit uh in the last year or two uh and so your your dues last year were 37,000 they will be 45,786 now uh and so it's about 143 $330 more and 33%. So the percent though is really more based on the new market value. So that's how uh it is designed. The statute basically says the city of Minnetonka, the largest city is uh can only pay 20% max or any city can only pay 20% max once they reach a certain uh that 20% of the total uh levy. So, to give you an example, uh this $440,000 uh dues is uh is really um the maximum dues we could charge are 1,180. So, 440 of a million1 is essentially what we're uh asking [snorts] in dues. So, our revenue this year, so permit fees, recover costs. So, what this is essentially is we have raised our uh new uh permit fees on multi-doc licenses. Uh and that's for uh residential and marinas. Uh not uh single uh family uh residential docks, but primarily uh multi- multi-licensed docks to cover the cost of administration. So, in the past uh we didn't keep up. We haven't uh we didn't uh add new fees for 38 years essentially. And so uh so revenue uh dues as well as uh reserves were helping pay for those permits. Now with our new fee structure, 100% of the cost to administrate a permit is now covered under fees which ultimately reduce your cost as due members in the future. So we returned to dock inspection. So in 2014, OMCD quit doing annual inspections of docks. Uh and uh we now have reinstalled that uh for many reasons, but mainly it's for improved safety. So making sure that you know uh shock uh when you can get shocked in the water, uh damaged uh steps, trip and falls, lots of different public safety issues are out there without annual inspection. So, we were inspecting on a case-byase basis. Uh, but more reactive than proactive. So, we're now >> But you're talking about commercial, not private ential docks. >> So, private only when they're MDL. So, when they're multi-dock licensed, we do HOAs, right? And right, Marinas. >> So, but not if you're residential and you just get a permanent dock. Not you, unless you're multi- facilities on that >> particular license. So, but we will inspect uh those as well. Uh but just to make sure things are safe. So, um but we're going back to that. And so, uh this a big return for us. And I think public safety overall and improved safety is something that we're really concerned about and that we really want to facilitate and it's part of our statute authority. So, again, uh our we got the the so a fair fee structure. So, how it was structured before is there was a base fee plus a fee based on how many uh WSUs or how many units you have. Uh what we did is we looked at Shorewoods uh which they restructured how they do theirs and we used their model essentially upping the base fee taking a range of how many units you have and having you know 0 to 10, 10 to 30, 30 to 60 whatnot to have a more fair uh range uh of spreading out those costs uh for the amount of time and energy we spend on permitting. So again we use Shorewood's model on that. And so, uh, when you do that, you have to prove, as you know, uh, city council and staff, that when you do these kind of things, you have to prove essentially that your cost do not go over a profit, right? So, you have to actually just cover your expenses only. So, that's what we did. Uh, it took us a while to get to that, but that's what we did. So our 2027 budget focus really again is to rebuild those reserves up to 35%. improve efficiency which we are doing and then hopefully reducing our overall budget actually [clears throat] over time with those efficiencies. Uh maintaining staff and another one down there is statuto compliance. So there's lots of things in our statute that we can be doing, should be doing and we're getting back to the core responsibilities of that and we'll talk about that in a minute with some AIS. Uh but uh public safety again is probably our number one thing. We want to make sure the license and permits that we are giving uh are compliant and being viewed uh in a safe condition. Uh this time around we start inspections already. Even though it's not 2027, I've been out there probably 15 16 of these. We are seeing frayed wires. We are seeing safety issues. We're seeing things that have fallen through the cracks. So uh it's something we want to work on to make sure that everyone is treated equal, everyone is being uh processed the same way and that safety for the public is there. So again uh our current initiatives is that annual dock inspections going back after 2014 and doing those annually. Uh res residential compliance. Uh what this means is being more on top of uh complaints and being more proactive. Uh for many years now, LMCD has been more reactive than proactive. Uh under uh what my leadership and the board's view, we want to be more proactive AIS detection. Uh for now, uh we want to crawl, walk, run an AIS. Uh we're not ready to full out run yet, but we're looking at ways that we can like starr uh looking at that. So we've already started with interns going to launches doing rake test education uh in our um in our online uh publications uh and uh identifying uh with agencies uh action plans what might happen if we do begin to see new species. So public outreach again uh it's not just AIS but public out outreach on boater safety uh best practices uh with boats uh and in general uh public outreach and AIS how to identify who to call what to do uh and things that we're doing as well uh in our agency enforcement again uh being more proactive than reactive and working which we always have with water patrol but particularly on rental boats. It's been a big issue and it continues to be, but looking for new ways to enforce that uh to make sure again that's a public safety issue. If people don't have inspected boats, if they don't carry insurance, it's a public safety issue. So, we're making sure that we're working on that code updates. Uh essentially, we've changed about three of our ordinances since I've been here already, and we're going to change one or two more. And part of that is to become more up-to-date technology advancements, things like that. Uh and to make it more easily understandable by a common person rather than attorney to read it. So uh to for people to really understand the rules and why it would apply and to take some uh what has happened over time is historically uh you know 1977 something happened, 81 it happened, '92 it happened and it just added to the ordinance. We want to really com look at that and then redefine those so it's easier to understand and it's more applicable. >> Questions? That's a lot of information. Uh if I could answer some questions, specifics, I'd be willing to do that as well. >> Question. [clears throat] >> I I think the weeds have been the worst I've ever seen them on the lake. And you got rid of all the harvesters and you don't do that anymore. I think it made a huge difference. So can you kind of explain to me why what what the plan is? >> Yeah. So I mean the reason I mean my understanding of the history of why we got rid of the harvesters at the time uh was uh well a it was expensive and b uh there was some thoughts that what we were doing was actually increasing the amount of weeds as you cut them and did things they were duplicating rather than taking away. So that was one of the reasons my understanding is why >> well it was particularly um Eurasian water mil foil. So that's what they felt was spreading by by by cutting them. Yeah. >> Yeah. So uh and so you know and then lids popped up and other people uh wershed got out of AIS. Uh so I think what what what we're looking at now is uh since we're on the funds right now unless we issue a new uh way of doing that in the future new dues program or joint powers agreement we want to really crawl walk run and so what that means is starting with education working with agencies working with lids understand the issue uh and then from there looked at what we should do next [clears throat] and our board really hasn't discussed what those next steps are Uh but I think one of the things we need to do is really understand what's happening on the lake from a full environmental side. So each lid is doing something different that the DNR is permitting. But I don't know if anyone's really saying um what is all the data? What does every bay do? How is it organized? What's really happening? That could be something we might do at our next step. I don't know. Our board hasn't conducted that. But that could be something is is taking all the data and then saying here's what ecologically the lake looks like now and know from there what is the game plan to go from there. So uh but our board hasn't really weighed in that other than their strategic plan they put it back under strategic plan to uh begin a process of looking at AIS and somehow become more involved. So, but we've had several cities uh talk to us and say they would be willing to pay more dues to start doing something more. They don't quite always identify what more is yet and we don't know what more on our end would be, but I think it's a discussion that will take place. >> Thank you. How much attention are you are you focusing on the people that live on the lake sharing their you know responsibility and taking care of the lake? >> Yeah. I mean uh essentially up you know for the last few years our agency has not got involved in AIS. Essentially we're out of the business. We're now stepping back into that business. So up till now we haven't talked much with our residents on a lake about it. So that's really the lids, the DNR and the water should use to they don't now. So I think that's what our board is trying to figure out is what is our responsibility? What should we be doing? What do we not want to duplicate and how do we help coordinate that? But we are we do have social media that talks about different types of invasive species, where to report it, what it looks like, things of that nature right now. Uh but uh we have not gone further into uh those things since our board simply said a strategic plan we want to look at it. They have not identified what specifically they want to do yet. >> Thank you. Thank you. All right. Um thank you and thank you Jane for all of your time on this as our representative. Appreciate it. Thank you. >> Thank you Mr. Krueger. >> You want this back? >> Oh, you can leave it up there. That's good. Sorry. Have a great evening. Thank you. >> Thank you. So, next uh we will move on. Um I guess we don't have anybody else signed up as Jane signed up but she already spoke. So um next we'll move on to um Oh, that's our next item and that is agenda item and that is only two consent agenda items. Wow. Um any do you want to re remove any one of them? All right. If not, then it's consent agenda item approving our claims and B is a street improvement project approve the change order. >> I would like to >> the change order. Okay. So then um is there a motion to approve our claims? >> So move. >> Thank you, Miss Revkin. Is there a second? Second. Thank you, Miss Lacy. All those in favor signify with I. I. >> I. All those opposed. Motion passes. And Mr. Vicky, you had some questions. >> I'm just curious about if if we don't pave this road now, you know, we'll never or it'll be a long time before we get to it. And so I'm just wondering if there's some way to >> it will be paved this year this season. That's correct. Um, Madame Mayor, Council Member Vicky, so uh the contractor for the city, Mueller, um is is just stopping short of that second layer. um of asphalt right now until the school district finishes with their project. >> No, I'm sorry. I meant the u enchanted island. >> Oh, that's that's a coat. >> Different different agenda item. [laughter] >> That one's on business. >> We'll talk about that one. [laughter] >> All right. >> Okay. So, in that case, would you like to make a motion uh to approve the street improvement project? uh approve the change order then. [laughter] >> Okay, Mr. Vicky, is there a second? >> Second. >> Thank you. All those Any other questions? Okay. [laughter] All those in favor signify with I. >> I. All those opposed? Motion passes. So, next we have our next we have the comprehensive plan amendment. Um and it says a sketch plan review, but it's not going to be a sketch plan review tonight. Well, Madame Mayor and Council, you can certainly provide comments as you wish. It it's um there's a one that can come in the future as well, but as pointed out in the staff report, it's in there for demonstration purposes as is required by the Metropolitan Council. >> Okay. So, we can make comments, but we'll they'll they're still going to come back for a sketch planner um at some point. >> Correct. >> Okay. Thank you. All right. Anything else? >> Go ahead. >> Okay. Yeah. Thank you. [laughter] Thank you, mayor. Uh members of council, as the mayor stated, this is a request for an amendment to our 2040 comprehensive plan. Um they're looking uh for an expansion of our metropolitan urban service area or what we call the Musa line and this is for the property at 3500 County Road 92. Uh the property is approximately 68 acres in size. Um, it's currently guided in our comp plan as urban reserve and it's currently zoned our stage development district which as the council will will recall um those stage development districts are areas that we look for development in the future. Uh it's been that way for at least this last comp plan goaround. Um and I believe actually the one before that. So we're looking at at least 20 years um that it's been uh zoned that stage development district. Um likely what will happen with a land use change if a development proposal does move forward it would move to our residential low medium uh which fits with the policies of our comprehensive plan. Um if if a development proposal does move forward of course um as I mentioned there is a concept plan that's in your packet that was submitted with the application. It does meet that minimum density requirement which is required by the Metropolitan Council of 3.5 units per acre. So whether it's this plan or some version of this plan moving forward, um as mentioned, it does have to meet that minimum 3.5 units per acre and that is a requirement of the metropolitan council as we move forward to our 2050 plan. As the mayor mentioned here just a bit ago, this is not an approval of the subdivision this evening. Um there is a concept plan in there for demonstration purposes, but uh what you're looking at tonight uh is is the comprehensive plan amendment. It's a concept plan that was just submitted again for demonstration purposes. They've they have put some thought into it though and uh feel like the the layout generally uh is is going to work for the site. Um if you guys do approve the comp plan amendment tonight, we would submit that as staff to the Metropolitan Council for their review and approval. If that is successful, um the development would still need to go through several steps. As the mayor mentioned, uh a formal concept plan would be the next step. Usually, there's a neighborhood meeting held by the developer prior to a preliminary plat submitt. Um when a preliminary plat is submitted, there'd be a public hearing held with our planning commission. It would be reviewed by our parks commission. It would go through the city council. And if it goes through the preliminary plat stage, uh the next step would be a final plat. and only after final plat would construction begin on the site. The planning commission did um hold a public hearing at their July 27th meeting. They took testimony and public comment and ultimately did vote 50 to recommend approval of this request. Um as I said, this is just the first steps in a potential future development process. Um it is not approving the the development plan that's in there. It is a comp plan amendment and there are many steps left in the process. Um but as as pointed out in the findings in the staff report, it's it's guided urban reserve. It's zone stage development. Um this parcel is uh what we look for when uh we get comprehensive plan amendments uh for uh bringing it into the Musa area. Uh basically it's set up in that way as part of our comprehensive plan. So with that, I see the applicant is here this evening. If you have any questions for them, otherwise staff is available for questions as well. Thank you, Mr. Eel. So, first of all, um council, any questions of staff? >> Uh did have uh a couple, how does the memory care affect the number of units per acre? Is that is that count essentially as an apartment building or >> correct? Okay. Correct. >> So, if there's 40 units, it's counting as 40. >> Okay. Yeah. >> And then is that uh is that on the north uh water system or the south water system? >> South Central. Yep. >> Yep. Good questions. That was it. >> Okay. Any other questions? >> Is there There's not water run over there already, is there? >> No. No. No. >> All [snorts] right. Um, the applicant is here. Would you like to make any comments or you don't have to, but if you'd like to, >> I'll just go and members of the council. Um, and staff. Um, my name is Beth Hustead and I'm here um to really just to answer questions, to listen to your feedback uh so that when we do present and if we are able to get a comp plan amendment um I [snorts] have some good feedback so I appreciate that. Thank you. >> Thank you. Um yeah, council. So I guess the first question might be and then we'll go to comments on the plan. Uh, first question is, are you in favor of um bringing this into the Musa or making the comp plan amendment at this time? >> Yes. Yes. >> Mhm. Okay. All right. So then, do you have comments on the plan? >> Okay. We'll start with um Kathleen. >> Um I have serious concerns about a senior living memory care facility. I I I don't think our police or fire has capability to respond to the amount of calls that will be brought in by that if it I mean if you want to put highdensity departments or just senior housing but the memory care or something that involves multiple calls to EMTs and ambulances and police we we just don't have enough city services staffing fire res to cover that. Um, that's my big comment on it. Peter, anything? >> I thought it looked good. >> Okay. Um, Claudia, that's been our big discussion, what Kathleen said. I mean, we constantly hear how our first responders are overt taxed by falls and who's responsible. And it sounds to me like this would require a lot of conversation. Okay. Any other comments, Brian? >> I feel like that's uh seems like one of the logical places to next develop in the city. Um memory care notwithstanding it. Uh so it seems like a good spot to fill in. [snorts] >> Okay. Um I'm going to make several comments. Some of them were made at the planning commission. One, I don't like the ent entry exit onto Highland. It needs to be on 110 and 92. two, um I would like to see fewer culde-sacs because that costs the city a lot of money to clear culde-sacs. Um and there's three in this development and it's only 60ome acres. So I'd like to see if we can have more um through streets or else fewer culde-sacs. And the other thing is I'm not a real fan of u these teeny tiny 50- foot wide lots. So, I think in um lie of these teenytiny lots, I'd rather see more town homes and I'd even like to encourage you, I don't know what you have planned here, but some um villa homes because we have aging um population in Minitrista and we don't have enough um sing well, we have a lot of single family homes, but we don't have things that people can age into. Um, as far as the memory care, um, probably that's not a great fit right now for our community, but maybe a senior uh, 55 plus apartment complex or something like that in order to get those units up so we can have larger lots. The 50 foot and 55 ft lots, they they just create a lot of problems. But I know that villas are smaller lots and I have heard from residents in the area that uh they're very well received and needed. So that might be something you can look at. Um also I'd like to make sure that whatever you do um the we need some buffering along the southern area and maybe even along the northern route or along Highway 110. Couple of reasons why. one, we still want to try and maintain that rural miniaturista feel. And now all of a sudden, we're going to have all these houses here. So maybe some buffering um trees as well as um whatever you can figure out um along those two and then of course on the southern area to buffer the existing neighborhood to the south. And um so in preserving as many of the trees as possible would be really a good idea because it costs you less and it keeps miniaturista beautiful. And the other thing I see here is I don't see any parks. So I don't know if there should be some open space and I don't see any open space. So if you want to do a PUD there's very little open space and we really are going to have to see a little more open space. doesn't have to be a um a park with amenities, but just some open space for people to go and congregate in or to play in uh whatever that might be. So, those are just some thoughts off the top of my head. >> All right. Um any other thoughts? [snorts] And we're looking forward to um getting approval from the med council. We'll see how that goes and uh then we'll continue working. We'll see how that goes. But yeah, I see David kind of smiling over there, but it should go. I mean, it I don't see >> don't foresee a problem with that. And the other thing I just want to point out is this is just basically preempting our 2050 plan because we already um we're kind of running out of space, running out of uh lots right now. And so we're going to be adding some in our next goaround which is coming up. We already have a committee um in place for that to start working on our next um update to our comprehensive plan. So I agree with staff this is kind of the next um you know the next thing that we would bring in anyway. So we're just upping the time timeline by about a year a year and a half. So um all right. Anything else? All right. Those are all our comments right now. So, we'll see when you come back with the with your new plan. So, with that, council, then is there a motion? I'm sorry, I need to go to the motion here. So, is there a resolution or a motion approving the comprehensive plan amendment to change the land use designation from urban reserve to residential low medium for 3500 county road 92 and authorize staff to submit a comprehensive plan amendment for the same to the metropolitan council? >> So moved. >> Thank you, Miss Revkin. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Thank you, Mr. Vicky. Any further comments, questions? Hearing none. All those in favor signify with I. I. I all those opposed. Motion passes. Thank you. All right. And we'll see you again. With that, we will move on to uh Peter's favorite item. [laughter] >> Yours in your question. >> So, this is uh the East Shore Drive um project scope. So, yeah. [snorts] Mayor Whan, if I may. Um, so before council this evening for consideration, um, is we're looking for a direction with regards to East Shore Drive. So, uh, in June this year, council authorized WSB to prepare feasibility report for resurfacing in the island area, um, excluding Tuxedo Enchanted because that was previously done. Um, and in preparation of the feasibility report and as time has passed, um, it was brought to staff's attention that there's a home on the end of East Shore Drive that's going to be rebuilt. East Shore Drive is currently a gravel road. Um, and so it's certainly undesirable to have construct home construction traffic going over a newly paved surface. Um, so, [clears throat] excuse me. Public works director Peters and I were talking about this um, and wanted to bring this forward to council to see if council wanted would like to remove uh, Eastshore Drive from the project at this time um, until a point where um, the home reconstruction is completed and then we can explore other opportunities to get that road paved. Um, certainly going through a public process um, for assessment. So, um, with that, I would open up to any questions that council has. >> Miss Fowski, I think there's only two parcels or two homes. >> Is one in Mound and one in Minatrista? >> So, there's um, that's a good question. >> One one in Minitrista, the rest are in M back there, but the one that's being built will be in Minatrista. This request also comes from the homeowners at 3470 Tuxedo Road who have moved in there and um brought this to our attention which I'm glad they did. So um but their request too to leave it as a gravel road um >> well the >> just to keep that rural kind of >> that that kind of cabin effect in that area there. So >> well that might be in our best interest too because when you look at I don't think that we have the authorization to assess the properties in mound and they would be using this road and so there would only be one house that we could assess for this whole road and that's not going to be cheap. I mean that's going to be expensive. Yeah, Madame Mayor, if I may, um you're correct. I did consult with the city attorney um with regards to assessments in other communities and the city of Minitrista would not have authority to assess for uh street improvements to mound residents. >> Right. So I it's kind of a private drive almost, you know. >> So >> do we plow it at all? Any part of it? >> We plow we maintain it. I mean it is a truly a city street but we have several of these all over that are >> quote unquote glorified driveways more or less. I mean but they are city streets. Yes. So, would it make sense to um take a look at this road to see and and leave it gravel, but if um improvements need to be made such as um soil corrections or things like that, do that now with with the rest of the project, but not pave it or wouldn't we save we wouldn't save any money? I don't I'm just asking. >> Itself has held up very well. I guess for our standpoint, it would probably be smart to do um a 360 driveby with um through the program that WSB has available to us before the house housing >> um what do you want to call the de can't talk >> demolition and the rebuild starts to >> this is the road condition that's there make sure that the builder is aware of what you know we are looking at and then you know once the process is going which will probably with these big houses they're putting in, you know, could be a 2-year process, but then make them aware that they will be, >> you know, liable for any repairs to that street as needed. >> Okay. All right. Cuz it >> pavement and have them ruin it right away. >> Yeah. No, no, I wouldn't I don't think we should pave it. I mean, >> I agree. >> Leave it alone >> indefinitely because that's a long That's what a couple thousand feet. >> Yeah. It's only one lane wide. I mean, and the only reason we bring it up was since we are doing the rest of the island. I mean, now would be the time to do it. >> Yeah. >> Because we're there. I mean, if we're not, you know, and we don't have an issue with leaving it from our standpoint, um, you know, from public works maintenance standpoint, we don't have an issue with leaving it this way. So, now would have been the time. If we're not going to do it now, then it'll be far into the future. >> Gary, maybe what you want to look at is just doing the mouth of the road. um paving that like maybe 50 feet or whatever >> it it is paved in already. So there is a paid return on it. >> Okay. Yeah. So council um take it off of the list. >> Yeah, I guess I'm okay with that. >> Yeah. Okay. All right. Do you need a motion? [clears throat] Um Mayor Whan, I believe we can just if you um Yeah, I just want to have a motion to remove that and then we just have it for the record. Okay. Uh, so is there a motion to remove um East Shore Drive from the 2027 project? And I'll say feasibility report and project. >> So move. >> Thank you, Mr. Victory. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Thank you, Miss Rafkin. Further questions? Hearing none. All those in favor signify with I. I. >> I. All those opposed. Motion passes. 50. All right. Um, next we have staff reports. >> [clears throat] >> Yes. Uh, madame mayor, members of city council, I'll give a brief update on future agenda items. Uh, we will have at the next city council meeting during the work session, the 2027 road project open house for the enchanted island. Uh, I believe that's going to be set up as as just like an open house. So, there won't be a technical formal presentation unless direction otherwise. >> When does the meeting start? >> I I want Okay, [laughter] we need to clarify this. This is an open house. It is not a city council meeting. Correct. >> Cuz last time it was an open house and I didn't I didn't come until later on and then I was told no it was a meeting. So it's an open house. >> Yeah. So what we would prefer I think from a staff and from like the the citizen feedback is just to have it be an open house. Doesn't have to be a meeting. There won't be a presentation at the meeting. If city council would like to show up and participate in the open house, they can. But there it'll be kind of held out in there a little bit. Maybe a little bit in here but not a formal meeting. >> Good. >> Is that good? >> That's clear. Thank you. Thank you. >> So will there be an actual work session then or just the open house? >> There will not. This will be in lie of the the actual work session. So we won't have a work session on 99. >> Sounds good. >> I'll send a reminder. >> Okay. And remember it's nine it's on the Wednesday because Monday is Labor Day. So then we moved it to Wednesday. >> So okay. Um and then we will also have the preliminary levy adoption on 99 as well um on the regular meeting. >> Okay. Is that going to change at all with this mound fire? >> I don't think it has to. I think we're probably all right from a planning perspective. It's >> Do you want to add anything else just in case? >> Are we doing the ATV thing on 99? >> Yeah, that's the next thing. >> That'll be on the regular meeting. Okay, good. >> That was the next thing I was going to talk about after the the premium levy. I mean, if if we want to add something to it, I don't know if we necessarily need to, but the last >> Well, we'll talk about it at the meeting, though. >> About 56,000. So, of what's already in the budget, but hopefully they even come down a little >> more from based on discussion. Okay. >> So, we'll have that. Okay. And we'll talk about that at the meeting anyway. So, okay. >> And then we'll have the the recreational vehicle ordinance um adoption potentially. >> That'll be on the regular meeting >> on 99 on the regular meeting. Um, and then, uh, I have, uh, I got an email today, um, from the Harrison Bay Association asking about the rain barrel project. Again, they took a pause in 2026. Um, if you remember, we did it in 2024 and 2025. Um, and I say we did it, we participated, we we sub um, the city from the storm water fund gave $30 per rain barrel. I think WSB, I have not hit them up yet, gave $10 per rain [laughter] barrel. Um, so I was just going to see once if if the uh group is interested in particularly won't hit 100, but I don't think we ever have. Um, so if there's some interest in that, >> we sold out. >> I think we did. >> We sold out. >> First year we might ever the first year. The second year was down a little bit. Um, it's kind of a saturated market situation, I think. And maybe taking a year off, we might get more. >> Okay. >> Um, so I mean, if we want to do uh do that same model up to 100, we can do that. Yeah. >> Do they need to be replaced or do they last like a significant period of time? >> Oh, they last quite long. >> Yeah, that's quite a while. >> It's like a PVC 55gallon drum basically. So, it'll last quite a while. >> They're not easy to set up. You have to saw. You have to do work. You do something. You have to like saw your spout and >> Yeah. [laughter] >> Okay. I'll I'll let them know and then we'll get more details from them. Um, and if I remember right, they'll likely come and do a little presentation. So, >> okay. How do we get the tree thing back? The tree sales that I missed that. >> Gary, are we doing tree sale this uh >> It wouldn't be this fall here. >> It would be in the spring. >> In the spring. >> We We can see if there's going to be a tree sale through Hampton County. We can try to participate again through that. >> Yeah, I think we should. >> Yeah, they just ask us to participate. >> Dead trees going down. >> I think we have to participate financially a little bit. I think one year we did 2,000 dollars. Not 2,000 trees, but $2,000 sold out like that. >> Yeah, it did. >> We'll see if Henipin County is running that program for next year. I don't think we've heard anything. At least I haven't. >> And if they don't, let's see if we can because we have the tree fund and we have a lot of dying trees. So maybe we want to >> Well, that's a good uh good um bridge to Gary's going to be talking about our emerald ashbor tree replacement policy, I think, on the 19th. >> Okay. Um, which there's something there with tree replacement as well. So, >> 21st, right? >> 21st, sorry. >> And the 21st. >> September 21st. Yeah. Okay. >> I won't be here on a Saturday, so [laughter] >> we'll get a lot done that day. Um, no. Um, and then Paula has a little update on the primary election uh that we that was just held. >> I was just going to give a quick update. We had a successful primary. Uh, good turnout. We had a 23% v voter turnout, which compared to 2024, we were at 8.6%. So, oh, >> we had a great turnout, no major issues. Um, Ann and Angie handled it very well. It was a very smooth election. Um, no complaints as well. We we transitioned absentee voting to Henipin County in the state as far as I know. Zero complaints on that. Everything went great. Um, and we did have a good turnout for early voting. We had 254 voters come in. So, it was a great it was a great uh election. >> Okay. I know there was one question by one of the judges um apparently. So I don't know if you got that. I know Ann got it. >> Okay. >> So I'll talk to her about it. It was just some Yeah. Okay. All right. >> How's the water treatment plant coming? >> I just So I talked to him about that earlier today and asked if um Aaron could come and he's coming on the 20 whatever the second meeting is. >> So I I reached out to him. I know he was on vacation last week, so he's digging out of emails, I'm sure. Um, but I gave him the option of the 21st or the 5th to provide an update on that among some other things water related. So, >> but things are things are going pretty well. I mean, they're they're still just pouring uh pouring walls and putting rebar in and it's it's not doesn't seem like it's changing significantly, but um they are making progress. I think the clear wells all pretty much pretty much built out. Gary shake time. [laughter] >> Not not yet. No, they're not completely. >> They doing the basement section and >> finishing. They'll be starting off expanding on the clear well. So, >> okay. Yeah. >> Yeah. It'd be good to have Erin come and just give us an update on the pro progress. And then I also asked um give us a a rundown in terms of cost because I know we keep saying 28 million, but I want so I want to know what that is. >> Yep. I asked him that question today as well. I I haven't heard back. I think he's like I said digging on some emails. So, >> and then um are we going to be hearing about the um if if Oh, then the other thing is if he if we can use the 1.2 million that we got from the feds for that other um water line or um water mane [clears throat] >> Gary probably doesn't know about this yet, so but um but I can give a little update. So, we received $1.2 million from the federal federal government for it's congressionally directed spending money. We applied for it. we received it with me telling them that we needed at least $5 million for it to be worth putting it towards the water treatment plant because there's some additional costs that are that are tag along with it. Um talking with their representatives right now we may be able to shift that money to a different project. We're figuring out what that process is and what the project could be, but it's got to be water related. So >> Painting the water tower >> I don't know. I mean we're >> be another one. >> Yeah. Yeah. We're we're going to look at um see [laughter] what the options are. I don't know if it has to be what it has to be related to if it's new infrastructure or if it's maintenance it could be something >> but if it's new infrastructure you know that one um water line to um to relieve or to bring more pressure was an option and that was like estimated 2 million so if we could use the 1.2 too towards that. That would be great. So, we're just staff is working on that. Just wanted to make you aware. >> Yeah, we're trying to um there are some additional things that we have to do as far as EPA review, cultural resource review. That's why it adds a lot more money to a larger project to a smaller project like a like a trunk main. It's a little different, smaller footprint. So, um but there are additional costs. So, you know, if let's say I think that project was 2.5 million. If it's now a federal project, it might move it up to 3 million. I don't know what that means. >> We'll see. >> It's unfortunate that that's the way that those things work out, but yeah, we're working on that. So, they have those three updated update items um for the future agenda. >> Okay. Anything else? Um so, council reports. >> Um you and I attended the mound fire commission meeting. Jasper was there too on August 6th. you guys can run them in that during [laughter] the work session. Um, [clears throat] >> yeah, and then Peter and I have a personnel committee meeting tomorrow. >> U, I'll just go back to the Gillespie Center. Brian, he's new, but the funds that the city contributed to the Gillespie Center went to programs and the roof actually was covered by insurance. So, they received >> Oh, great. >> covers all of it, including new downspout. So that was a wonderful uh surprise. We weren't we weren't positive that would happen. >> Uh what else? I think um oh Brian's experience, he was humble, but he has tremendous amount of experience with grant writing and being successful getting grants and that's >> what has been missing for 25 years at the Glasp Center. So I'm really thrilled about that. >> Good. And he seemed very enthusiastic. >> Yeah. And he really loves >> Yeah. >> Uh seniors. >> Yeah. Good. [laughter] Um I wish I am one. So um yeah, that's exciting change. Um the WCC, which is now West Tanka Connect. Um I I'm I'm still attending those meetings. I've yet to see how that's really going to promote this area, but they're they're working hard. They're trying Okay. >> to make a difference. >> Good. All right. >> Should we update the name of it in the council report? West Hanka connect. Yeah, connect West Hanka. Sorry. >> No longer West Hanka Community and Commerce. >> Okay. >> Where Well, sorry. Where at in the council report? Is it >> under Claudia? The committee she's on. >> I got you. Recurring. >> Okay. Um, so I have a question of the council and we bring us back to a work session or regular meeting. Um, currently we meet on Mondays, uh, first and third Mondays. I'd like to see if um there would be an appetite to move our meetings to Tuesdays and that would be um because that might be a deal breaker for me. So I would like to move them to Tuesdays because um it's just really really hard to do Monday meetings, >> long meetings or long weekends and vacations. >> Yeah. And then >> love Tuesdays. And we would um still have if there's a Monday holiday, we would still do um the Wednesday meetings um regardless. So that wouldn't change, but it would also give um everybody otherwise you I have to look at the um packet over the weekend and that's just not working for me. So this is somewhat self- serving I admit, but um we've made some um accommodations for other council members. So I would really appreciate it if we could do this. Tuesday would be better for me. >> This would have been great to know like >> we can discuss it >> months ago before I set my kids fall and next year schedules. >> Yeah, it's tough for me. At least until the end of September. >> Well, yeah, I'm talking about next year. >> Oh, for next year. >> Yeah. >> If again, we can put it on work session for discussion, but um I I'd really like to ask the favor. So, >> does this work for me? >> Okay. All right. So, we'll put it on work session in September and it probably wouldn't take effect until January. So, all right. >> You can't cuz he won't be on him apparently. [laughter] >> All right. All right. Uh, with that then, um, we're going to close our open >> ask one question on that. >> Sure. How's that going to affect our attorneys? Because I know Sarah has other councils that are on Tuesdays >> and we'll we'll find that out. >> Yeah, we'll figure that out. Um >> ask Allison already and she can seem to make it make it work. But city attorney wise, we're going to have to figure that out. I know Sarah goes to Lake Elmo on Tuesdays, >> but if she loves us more, she'll stay here. >> We'll [laughter] have to make her pick, I suppose, if we go that route. >> Well, and also doing it remotely now, too. We have a lot. We have some other options too. >> Or we can ask Ron to come out of semi-retire. >> Oh, Ron, there you go. You know, Ron, we love you. So, [laughter] anyhow. >> Um, all right. So, with that, we're going to close our open meeting. Uh, can we adjourn the open meeting, Ron? Ron, you're muted. So, I'm going to have to ask everybody to leave other than staff and council, of course. [laughter] And uh and then I think we keep it open and we go into close session and then after the close session, we come back and just see what the the close session was about and then we we adjourn. So, >> Madame Mayor, that's correct. You do not want to >> All right. >> Hold on one second. Sorry, Ron. But the close session is to do a um hold on a uh re um annual review um of um our city administrator. >> So what I'm going to do is I um I'm going to close out of this meeting. Paula will record it audio. We're required to do that and then that'll be stored and then sometimes the auditors will ask us for closed meeting audio recordings. Um so we'll do that. We won't come back on video to adjourn the meeting. We'll just do it here and it'll be reflected in the minutes. >> Okay, >> that works. And then as far as the summary goes of the of the review, um Paul has got the example of what's been done in the past as you know kind of a talking point if we want to do something that's what would be uh included in in the next meeting's agenda on consent or business whatever is directed. >> Okay. All right. So, we're um we're going to go into close session to uh discuss and review um Jasper's annual performance review. All right. And I need a motion. >> Do we have a motion to go into close session?