okay so it is 7 o'clock are we rolling we are all right so I'm going to call the meeting to order uh first order of business please if you have um cell phones with you put them on silent mode so that they don't disrupt the meeting and second um please join me in pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America the republ for it stands one nation God indivisible withy and justice for all so welcome everybody that's here this evening glad to see so many of you and also welcome to those watching on YouTube later on I'm going to start with introductions I'm Lisa whan I'm the mayor and to my left our council members Kathleen rekin and McGregor Peter vicory and Claudia Lacy and then on the end we have our city engineer Alison fski our director of administration Ali palus and then our city clerk an meerhoff to my right I have our city administrator Jasper kral then Brian Grim is our finance director and then sitting in for our regular if you will um attorney uh Sarah s Sala is on vacation so Ron Batty is back with us with Ken Andy and Graven thank you for coming Ron nice to see you again and then we have our chief of police Paul Falls with that um next order of business is to approve approve the agenda are there any changes or additions if none is there a motion to approve the agenda as presented so move thank you Miss Lacy is there a second thank you Mr vicory any other questions all those in favor signify with i i all those opposed motion passes by V so what we're going to do this evening this is a little little change from what we normally do for Street projects we've normally held a neighborhood meeting and invited all of you here giving you the information but we were somewhat under a time crunch this time and so what we decided to do is have the neighborhood meeting here this evening during our regular meeting Alis and fski our city engineer who's in charge of the project will give you an overview of what the project is and then afterwards I'll open it up if you have questions please feel free you might have to come to the podium so that we can catch you on on camera um but and then if you don't want to come to the Podium but you have questions we have cards in the back you can write them down we'll collect those and if you want to leave your name and number on those then we can call you and give you your answers so with that Allison thank you Madame mayor um before you this evening we have miss miss Emily Brown um she is in the assistant city engineer role here in Minista uh and she would be the project manager for this project should Council authorize proceeding with with this project and Emily would like to give a presentation to the council staff and the residents present about the proposed project thank you welcome Emily thank you thank you Madame mayor thank you members of the city council for having me here tonight I'll be going through the 2025 Street Improvement projects as it's proposed and just for the folks here in the room um we do have those comment cards in the back we also have a sign-in sheet and some frequently asked questions available for you to appr if you'd like um or otherwise you can them up after uh meeting here here we go uh little project background so we're looking at um uh focusing on improving the street conditions throughout the city uh the streets were evaluated based on the condition of the pavement service and the city uh did obtain pavement cores throughout these project areas to help determine the uh structural stability of the in place pavement uh the streets we're looking at are Windridge Trail Pine Circle Trillium Lane and Trillium way uh the existing conditions uh so Pine Circle was built in uh the 1970s it's experiencing alliga alligator cracking and potholes this was demonstrated the cores and just visual inspection of the existing pavement uh Trillium area this was built in 1994 the asphalt is starting to lose Bond the Aggregates and when we did you could tell that the top surface of the pavement was starting to debond from the underlying layers of pavement um Emily just thank you thank you hopefully that's a little bit better yeah um and then Windridge Trail uh this was built in the uh mid90s and the base layer is starting to fail both all of these are early warning signs for a pavement failure and it's good to catch it at this point in time to try and make improvements um which is what we're proposing here otherwise it's more of a structural issue down the road uh so what we're looking at is a full depth Reclamation uh here in this picture off to the right you can see the reclaimer uh this uh machine polarizes the existing pavement and blends it into the underlying aggregate base this provides a nice recycled material that can be used as a base for the um the new pavement section for this Street improvements we're proposing that the existing Street widths remain the same uh and the street grades will closely match what the existing pavement grades are this will allow us to match into existing driveways and um match the drainage patterns that are already there uh we may make some minor improvements to either the um the profile to help improve drain drainage if needed uh for the Trillium area which has curb and gutter we'd be doing spot curb and gutter repair um are that are cracked or settled would be the the main target with that Improvement um for Pine Circle we're looking to remove the culdesac island and pave over that to make it more of a true uh culdesac and then for wind rdge we're looking at the addition of a um uh narrow aggregate shoulder utility improvements so we' be installing uh inflow and infiltration barriers I I for short uh this is for the sanitary manholes what this does it helps prevent water intrusion into sanitary manholes basically you're trying to um not treat storm water you're focusing on sanitary um with sanitary sewer systems and then we also have a uh leaking valve at Trillium way and Trillium Lane that would be repaired with the project uh for the project cost um the city budget for the proposed improvements is approximately 1.6 million uh the majority of that would be in the surf and drainage improvements that's um just under 1.5 million and then sanitary and water main improvements um totaling just over uh 100 or right around 140,000 as part of the preliminary design we' be looking at a more detailed scope of the um projected project costs uh the city Min interest of the assessment policy so the portion of the cost would be assessed to benefiting property owners for the city's assessment policy and that follows uh statute chapter 429 these historically have been 50% of the project costs project costs associated with the surface storm water improvements would be assessed while the city would be covering the cost for sanitary sewer and water utility improvements there are hardship deferrals um available for senior citizens disabled persons members of the National Guard or military reserves and the payment period is typically 20 years uh assessment questions and more information on any type of deferrals could be directed to uh the finance director Brian grim and his contact information is there project schedule so tonight we have our project presentation uh the the city council decides to move forward with the project we would plan on having the visibility report presented to Council on October 21st at which time the the council can call the public hearing uh we would look to have the public Hearing in November and uh if the council so chooses move forward with plans and specifications at that time the bid opening would be anticipated for the beginning of February and then uh the assessment hearings would be following that in later in February and construction would be uh anticipated between June and September of 2025 however the construction for this type of project would be a shorter duration of that we'd be working with the contractor to get a more detailed schedule once we have them on board um with the expectation that the total construction duration would not entail that entire time for the public engagement we want your input uh if you have a specific roadway or utility questions we recommend reaching out um safety questions Street section questions or funding questions or comments uh the city has provided a website uh you can see that at the bottom of the screen here uh you can also sign up for emails that would have been on your um postcard that you received prior to the meeting tonight as well so far we've had four residents who sign up for email updates that is a great way for us to keep in touch with you especially during construction so we highly recommend that you would sign up for the email uh there are comment cards in the back of the room again please fill one of those out if you have some comments or concerns about the project otherwise um we can hang out after the meeting here today no we're going to take questions now during the meeting yes so right as soon as you're done with your presentation thank Youk you um questions and answers so uh we do have a frequently asked questions in the back handout um I recommend taking those and then uh I'll stand for any questions the council or any residents may have council do you have any questions right now we'll we'll take comments I think from the public so um I I guess you could sit down I think so um so questions I'll start with that gentleman in the back you'll have to come forward and speak in the microphone so it's um recorded thank you thank you very much and can you give us your name and address I certainly can my name is brand palaza and I live at 6135 Pine Circle and if I may I've got some hand notes may I pass this out to the group sure yes which should I anywhere start there yeah that's good all the same the there are photo maps from the hon County interactive map website and the first page is just an overview um of the Pine Circle area it's an aerial map on the second page um I've included the copy of the map that has the property lines drawn on it the reason why I'm here is I wanted to address the idea of the center Island in Pine Circle there are a couple reasons why the residents of Pine Circle want that Island to remain several of them are aesthetic reasons is a beautiful little island second reason is kids love to play on it most importantly I'd like to bring up two points let's start with the children again if you look at the map there are the first two homes as you drive off of County 44 on the Pine Circle those first two homes are the homes of very young children both preschool and also Elementary School age okay for them to play in the street ride their bikes whatever their parents have trained them very very well they do not ride their bikes very close to 44 Vehicles come flying in off that street and there's kids right there so what the kids do the kids go back into Pine Circle where the circle is now my home is at the lower right hand side of the page so what I've done is on the very last page I've taken pictures from my ring camera and these are from today these are from this weekend showing the children now they go back there there's two benefits to having that Island one is a safe place for the kids when cars come into that area the kids know get onto a side lawn or get into the circle and you can watch them do that they're very good at it second reason for that circle is it slows down traffic okay we see all the Amazon drivers come through all the delivery drivers come through and they would fly through there and they have what that Circle does is it slows them down significantly and so we for a safety reason are pretty adamant we very very much want that Center Island to stay any questions for me I thank you madam mayor if I may um so the the discussion about removing the theck Island came from a maintenance standpoint for snow plowing operation it's very cumbersome um so that's why we included it as a proposed scope and certainly look for this kind of feedback from residents on why they see a benefit so that we can um have these discussions and then look at what a final scope for the project would be with you know whether that that Island would remain or not I think it would be nice if it could be if it could be made is there a fire truck issue no I think like in a in a culde-sac that size I I don't think that there would be it wouldn't be able to allow a fire truck to maneuver through it it would likely go in and then back right out so from that standpoint I don't see that in as an improvement I will say from a snow removal standpoint a large snow truck cannot get in there and so the city and I've actually come to the city several times to just commend the driver that does come back there he's in a pickup truck size vehicle with a small plow does a wonderful job plows a lot of the snow right on top of the center Island which makes for great forts for the kids and I know we have several um streets in our community where they have to use a a pickup truck for fing to I live right off the County Road 44 and you can't ride your bike on County Road 44 I think this is a wonderful thing and I commend these parents these kids have helmets on and it does definitely slow people down to go around that little Island thank you for coming in and sharing this with us thank you very much thank you thank you okay um anybody else wish to come forward and ask questions have comments next roll good evening evening hi I'm Bill Kennedy and I live at 4250 trillum Lane East and I'm also president of our homeowners association and I had a few few questions just uh about the project um back I think in 2017 we had a resurfacing done where they take a couple inches off the top I think repress the material and and resurface the road um given the fact that our Road apparently originated in 1994 what was the cost value benefit of doing that now that 7 years later we appear to have you know subsurface uh problems that caused us to resurface the road so I'm just for my own benefit what's the logic and doing that to be followed not too much longer in the future by a total resurface uh Madame mayor so I'm not aware of a I think what what was likely done in 2017 and I apologize I don't have the whole payment history there it would be a seal coat where they put the oil on top and chips it was no it was a grinder and they went down an inch or two and then repaved the uh the whole Road the entire roadway I'm not aware of that thate that predates my time de am I correct we had just moveed we had just moved in we had we had just moved in a year before uh so we were kind of aware of what was you know going on and well you know what we did do and some some roads we did what was called an overlay if you remember we did some um off a Game Farm Road we did overlay so that's not a complete Mill in overlay it's like about an inch to an inch and a half and what that correct me if I'm wrong but what that does and this may have happened um on the street you're talking about what that does is it basically prolongs the life of the Road by anywhere from 7 to 10 years am I correct yes and and certainly when we look at the age of these roads we're getting to be 30 years so so this type of improvement um not only from the cores but also from an age standpoint in the Trillium area it it fits that you know a mill a resurfacing project um which what was what we originally were looking at for Trillium and then we got the cores back and saw that the payment was deteriorated to a point that that would not be a cost effective solution so certainly there's you know in the lifespan of a road something that was done 7 to 10 years ago see you know it it's it's it's there's good maintenance that occurs um but I something that's done 70 years ago doesn't mean that it's um that it'll last for a really long time and and I guess it wasn't the intent of my question to to ask like it was going to you know prolong it by 20 years but it kind of leads into the second question is is that uh you know it's a relatively small Road those of us with pets are walking dogs and so forth and for the most part there's a few areas where there may be an area about that big that has the surface eroded but it's not too terribly deep so um I don't know if you've explained it already but is age the determining Factor when they want to re or suggest resurfacing a road or is it and you mentioned core samples but uh I guess from a lot of our perspectives you know some patches looks like we'd be able to get quite a few more years out of it and I'm no as asphalt expert I want to make sure I spoke correctly um but I was you know just curious from people who are more knowledge about about it than I I am you know is there any logic to that well there is actually so from previous um Engineers they've told us that when you do a Reclamation project it actually um avoids having to do a complete reconstruction so that's maybe and I'll let you weigh in here too so that's maybe why we're doing the Reclamation project right now A reconstruction is where you remove everything and then basically start over and the reclamation is where you as as um Emily was saying where you grind it up and then you do a a resurfacing and what that does is it's cheaper um than a full full depth reconstruction and because we're doing that that will avoid having to do that full depth reconstruction if we waited and then we may have to go to that full depth reconstruction and may will and if I if I me to and I in in hindsight I should have included this in the slide deck as well so that residents um to explain the process that we go through as as staff when we look at pavement conditions so um the city does take um gets the roadway surfaces evaluated every three years and so that's just a visual what's happening on the surface of the road how many cracks are we seeing what kind and that's our first indication as staff as far as well what should we like what should we look at doing should we look at crack filling and seal coat which is a maintenance a resurfacing which would be a Mill and overlay is a good option here um or do we need to look at something more structural and so then the next step in that process is get pavement course and I actually brought one here and and I'm happy to pass it around this is actually in Trillium just off County Road 44 and some of the council members here um I brought this into a council meeting but I think it's a good visual to show what happened so this is the top of the road this is what you see and this is happened with some of the cores that were're taking here it's it's it's coming off so what's happening as as Emily mentioned is the bond between the black part of the pavement structure is it's losing its bond with the the rocks and so that's what our pavement folks go and take a look at when they get cores throughout these streets that we're that we're uh proposing for a project to tell us you know is a resurfacing um project a good idea here and and when we got these cores back it was because because it's starting to to fall apart through here um and that's what the the Reclamation project that's what so how far when the Reclamation project is decided upon how deep does it reclaim um it goes through the whole while I'm talking um it takes the whole pavement and then into the first part of the the class fi or the gravel structure that's underneath the road and it Blends it together and then part of that is is taken off because you're curbing gutter in Trillium for example and in other areas you you can just leave that reclaimed surface on there and pave on top of it but because we have curbing gutter in that area um some of that Reclamation material will have to come off before they put the new pavement on top but it it provides a new a new um rock structure underneath the roadway okay to keep the the because otherwise when if you just do resurfacing any cracks that were most cracks that were on the payment surface start to reflect through if you just overlay on put that payment on top okay and sorry I I I have I I was messaging with Gary you know I think everybody knows Gary he said that a small section of Trillium was done in 2017 it was just a patch job but it was a Mill and overlay along with the Lotus Drive project so wasn't anything expensive throughout the neighborhood he said it was like maybe a 50ft section and that was about it um from his recollection while he's on vacation so that I think we got to the bottom of it so it wasn't a big project for the whole neighborhood just a small section okay um just two more questions both of which are probably related any idea about how uh the resident impact from a financial standpoint is going to be calculated is it by front each foot of a lot or is it the neighborhood divided by how many Lots are in the neighborhood how do they come up with that assessment calculation so our our policy is on a a per lot basis not on a per foot Frontage basis and we just went through um an analysis if you will um last year to determine what the value would be for another project that we did so we'll probably be looking at that report to determine um the so it probably won't be a set 50% assessment because we determined for the other project that we did last year that that 50% assessment was way too high and it exceeded the um value um increase to your property so we did um between 9 and 11,000 I think we ended up at 10,000 per per lot for the assessment so you're probably looking at I'm guessing don't don't um hit me if I if I'm wrong but somewhere right around there is what I'm guessing will be the well I understand that but does that mean that the neighborhoods that are impacted by this project are going to be treated the same um mayor way if I may so it typically when we've had projects with different areas we've created uh and presented to council separate assessment rules for each project area so Pine Circle would have an assessment calculation um separate from Trillium separate from because of the nature of of each project Trillium is a curban gutter uh single family residential um Pine Circle doesn't have curban gutter Windridge is rural residential no curban gutter large Lots so that's how we've typically presented them to council unless we start seeing that they're they're very close in in cost um but I I given given the three areas I I would be surprised if that's the case I I would antici different assessments and while I can understand the rationale behind that I guess rewarding the question would we be treated the same way as other neighborhoods that have curban gutter if that's comparable to our neighborhood yeah okay but so that would be the same treatment overall neighborhood okay at this point in time my last question do you have is the p out period on that for residents uh up to 20 years and do you have any idea what the interest rate application would be for this we don't because it depends on our bond and then we go about 2% above the bond that we take out so if if the bond is 4% then the percentage would be 6% on 20 years what was the last Bond that the city did as a comparable realizing we can't predict the future 3.7 3. yeah yeah we're hoping it goes down okay all depends in no any anybody else them any wait okay uh Roger Schmidt 4350 Trillium Lane West um if you did patch and another sealed coat how many years would you expect that to be it's a great I wish I had a crystal ball I could tell you so um the challenge that we have if we tried to resurface it is and and we've encountered this before unfortunately sometimes the road when you go and grind it up sometimes the road doesn't stand up to that and you end up having to do a Reclamation and that's why we get the cores um so so it if you were to go and do a resurfacing and the road the the road bed underneath it able to withstand it you'd see those cracks reflecting through um within a couple of years so you would get you would still get a new pavement but you'd be seeing cracks a lot sooner than you would with a Reclamation project so it's a subjective answer I think is what I'm trying to get water penetrates the SE Co and you get these punches about an inch deep yes that's what I have Ron yeah Ron Klein 7750 Windridge Trail um what is the estimated lifespan of this project to do the project or or how long will it last how long will it last so um what we typically see I'll I'll give you the I'll give you it's going to be a long answer so we we'll do a Reclamation project and then um a few years after that we seal the cracks and typically do like a seal coat or a rejuvenator that's not that's a maintenance operation not assessed to the residents and then the next time you would see like a resurfacing would be maybe 10 years later and and then maybe another 10 years after that after some more crack filling you'd see another overlay so you start seeing um you know anywhere from we try to get 30 plus years out of a Reclamation project if not more if we're able to get those tracks filled and keep the water from intruding and the city has also been using um it's called a I won't bore you with the details but it's a rejuvenator project product um to to try to even uh get a longer lifespan out of these roads and so we've started doing that on these roads where we're doing Reclamation projects to extend it be roughly 30 years before you assess again if not longer yes okay um and there was a mention of adding a uh a gravel shoulder on Windridge we're currently all buting up to the roadway with our our Lawns and wondered what the rationale is for that um so typically what we look at is is to have that little bit of a buffer so you don't have vegetation growing up right to the edge of the road and I don't I I wasn't there when Windridge was put in because typically when a road is a a rural road is installed they usually do have some gravel there then over the years the lawn might kind of encroach and go right up to the road and so the idea is to just provide that little bit of a of a buffer if you will from the edge of the pavement to the lawn so that you know somebody in the winter especially goes off the edge of that road if they're not going on your lawn they they have that Gravel Road and it's and it's a structural it's that it's compacted and it's hard to keep the edge of that pavement secure and in place instead of breaking off is it do you have to do that though I mean if the residents would prefer it not I mean Windridge there's what five homes seven seven homes on that road I mean I I I would recommend it to a certain extent that we have at least something there so that we don't have pavement right up next to vitation okay because we want to we want to keep that road in a good good condition as long as possible and I know you're looking at the budget in total what's the Windridge portion of the budget um I don't have that in front of of me but that's certainly something that when we come through with that feasibility report we'll have that estimate and it's at that point too that we would have um preliminary assessment numbers for the council to consider and um after those after that's presented in the feasibility report as Emily mentioned there is a public hearing and that information is shared in the notice of the public hearing great thank you so in that preliminary um design or or report is due when again Emily October oober time frame it's usually a couple months from the time the second meeting in October right okay so if you're interested you can either watch it later on or you can come to the meeting too so okay sign up for for updates too yeah and that's that's a good way to get notified if there's um new information available on the project website I anal right yes and yeah exactly yes yep Mr Johnson just a quick question yeah come to the microphone so we yeah so if I heard you right is this uh will this actually be payable in 2026 for a 2025 project or will it be payable at the end of 2025 they'll be corresponding basically the project will be done in 25 and CH to pay it all off it'll be like du like November 1st of 2025 if they want to avoid any interest they can make any a partial payment in the first year but after that it'll be at interest 5 a half% be sent to the county for collection over 20 years but you would anticipate you would anticipate to be send sending the bill out at the end of 2025 so if you wanted to pay it in full you'd have to pay it by November 1st of 2025 and still be letters sent that thatone the assment adopt and then we usually October 1 like a 30-day reminder that hey if this is paid by November 1st in 25 it'll be under 2026 taxes start okay yeah because I'm sure that's what one of the questions neighbors are going to be sure be asking so and you can pay it off at any time after that to in full P I thought you could pay first year you can make a partial payment but once it's at the county they don't want to send a bunch someone it's just on the count until it's paid off they can only pay off in full here that's what I'm saying they can pay off in full right at any time that's what I was saying yeah okay all right thank you okay all right um other questions um I think did you sign up um the gentleman on Pine Circle did you sign this okay so you already spoke so you're good all right um anybody body else have questions because um if you have cards and you wrote questions down um Emily will grab those from you if you'd like her to give you a call please put your name and number on those questions um then they can talk to you individually U offline if we will and again if you want to come back for the October whatever date 21st we um we can also give you some more questions we'll have another question and answer time if you want okay and you can stay for the rest of the meeting too if you'd like thank you for coming all right thank you for coming all right so we'll move on then to um our consent agenda items and there's cards to at the back for um B business cards for Allison and Emily too so if you want to grab one feel free all right so we'll move on to consent agenda items um approve the work session meeting minutes from August 5th 2024 approve our city council regular meeting minutes from August 5th 2024 a resolution to approve claims D is a resolution to reimbursement resol for a reimbursement resolution for water treatment plant project and e is a resolution for a reimbursement resolution for equipment certificates f is accept improvements and authorize final payment for the the 2024 overlay project that's city project number 0-24 and G is a resolution to accept improvements and authorize final payment for the 2024 seal coat project which is part of city project number 0224 and then H accept the resignation of the Community Service Officer Jack Rodin effective yesterday of 2024 any questions you want to pull any of these if none is there a more to approve consent agenda items a through H thank you Miss rekin is there a second thank you Miss Breer any further questions hearing none all those in favor signify with i i all those opposed motion passes by vote Madame mayor do you want to do a persons to be heard there was nobody signed up okay perfect yeah except I mentioned that before uh brand on um Pine Circle and I asked him and he said he had already spoken I know if that was the project thank youor sorry um next uh public hearings we have appr proven amendment to interm ordinance number 484 authorizing a study imposing moratorium on the operation of cannabis businesses within the city of Minnetrista who is going to take this um Ron Ron can explain this very very eloquently so I'll have Ron Do It um mam mayor council um as you remember last year in 2023 the the uh legislature uh legalized the uh possession and use of cannabis and adopted a very lengthy statute 300 and some pages and in response Minista and many other cities imposed a moratorium on uh actually going into the any of the businesses that will be authorized the statute allowed you to impose a moratorium that extended through January 1st 2025 which is longer than the standard 12 month moratoria that we've been dealing with and so you did that one of the things that happened in the 2024 legislature is that there were a number of amendments one of them was that three of the 14 businesses that were listed as cannabis businesses and that were subject to the moratorium were were taken out of the definition there were 14 now that the statute only lists 11 businesses that are considered cannabis businesses uh basically they were the mar uh medical marijuana ones there is an argument I don't think a particularly good one but there's an argument that because of that legislative change that cities that adopted a moratorium under the old statute that that moratorium doesn't apply to the three businesses that are no longer defined as cannabis businesses so what you've got in front of you is sort of a well it is a belts and suspenders approach to say oh yes it does uh we uh you can read through the amendment of course if you had but it's it's to reaffirm that uh if anyone is thinking that there's loophole between now and January 1st that's not true so this reaffirms that the moratorium that you adopted last year continues to apply to all 14 businesses but we can't extend it for another year that's that's correct the statute gave uh I mean gave everybody you know uh 15 months or something something longer I think 18 yeah so uh with the idea that uh things would be up and running by January 1st of 2025 and that was really to allow cities to put into effect whatever kind of zoning or other regulations they wanted to do uh and so this moratorium statutory moratorium from that statute cannot be extended Beyond uh that date one of the other belts and suspenders pieces in here we read this was that we're sort of piggybacking that moratorium on the regular 462 kind of oratorium that you're used to that is limited to a year but that also is going to expire January 1st of 25 and that's again just in case anybody in case the court ever found that our attempts to extend the moratorium to include those other three businesses didn't work work under the the Cannabis statute well we've taken the approach of now doing a more traditional 462 moratorium long story short the moratorium if you adopt it will simply extend everything till January 1st 2025 thank you questions do we have any um anything any ordinances now regarding buffers x amount of feet between a park or a school I we don't um but we have started looking at what um the local government user guide is that describes those that are in statute um our Community Development Department is working with WSB to develop some maps so we can kind of look at what Parcels are affected to see if we need to try to go above and beyond um that'll be coming at a future meeting between now and January one one of one of the things we I'm sorry go ahead you can already grow it now in your x amount in your yard I mean commercially grown commerci commercially grown yes um uh residentially or recreationally No in fact one of one of the reasons that uh we were recommending this amendment was because uh one of the three exceptions was to allow people to start uh commercial uh growing and so the moratorium if you adopt it will preclude that you know one of the reasons cities have been uh slow in adopting the kind of regulations that you're talking about is that we were the office of cannabis management had to be set up which took a while I mean they had to create a whole new Department we were waiting for the reg for them to adopt regulations well it's only been in the last month that they've come out with draft regulations that we still into comment period till the end of August we were also all waiting for them to produce a sample ordinance and they produced One a couple of three or four weeks ago that it was 111 pages one one page dealt with the things that we are interested in so uh did not give cities very much guidance and so you're in the same position that most cities are uh January 1st 2025 seemed like a long time away when when all this happened a year ago it's getting much closer and so yes in the next couple of months you'll be focused on all of those things what districts do we want to put this in do we want to have some sort of setbacks do we want to take advantage of being able to limit the number of of retail businesses in the community all those things are going to be the focus of a package of ordinance amendments that will be brought before you in the next couple of months I found it unbelievable that you were given preference to own this business if you were a convicted felon just of drug of a of a drug uh crime yeah just unbelievable who came up with that well let's focus on what we can what we can do here tonight just wanted to say it out loud for the record all right um so what we're looking so first of all this is a public hearing so um I any other questions of of counsel or staff because otherwise I'll I'll open the public hearing and if there's anybody here that wishes to speak for or against or have comments regarding uh the authorizing of the moratorium you may do so at this time nobody's here for that so I'm you're not here for that I assume so um I'm going to close the public hearing and take it back to council do you wish to um approve an amendment to for the interim ordinance number 484 authorizing a study and imposing a moratorium on the operation of cannabis businesses with the city of Minista thank you Miss refkin is there a second second thank you why did I think you would second that okay all those in favor signify with i i i all those opposed motion passes 5 and then I need um a motion to authorize publication by title and summary is there a motion to that effect thank you Miss rkin is there a second okay thank you Mr vicory all those in favor signify with i i i all those opposed motion passes so next we move on to our business items and as this is accepting a donation of Outlaw D in Huntress Crest fifth edition um do do you want to give us a brief overview we talked about this at our work session should be pretty straightforward yeah Madame mayor members of council um we have a group that owns a parcel in the hunters Crest fifth edition addition neighborhood um that is wishing to donate that to the city we discussed this um at the work session um there is a donation agreement that has been reviewed by legal um and it's been given the approval uh of a Le of of legal if we want to proceed um it has a closing date of December 20th so we have a due diligence period between now and then um to see if there's anything wrong with the property um that we can demonstrate and then if there is we would then withdraw from the the the agreement so um it is a donation we would then own it uh by Fe title and then uh we would be on the hook for future storm water maintenance which right now that pond is in pretty good shape probably 15 20 20 years from now there maybe could be some work uh I'd anticipate if that parcel to the South if you're familiar with it would ever develop um likely the developer would come and say we want part of Outlaw D to to finish that development so um I don't think there's anything like that on the near Horizon but uh in the 15 to 50 year window there probably may be so um I believe that is uh the gist of it uh if there are any other questions um I am here to answer but we do have a resolution that would accept this donation and authorize us to enter into that donation agreement and then proceed with the due diligence period okay question okay a none then is there a motion to accept the donation of Outlaw D and Hunters Crest fifth edition with a closing date of uh December 20th um doing due diligence in between time thank you Mr vicory yes there a second thank you miss rkin any further questions hearing none all those in favor signify with i i i all those opposed motion passes 5 so next uh approve a professional Serv service agreement for the design and bidding services for the 2025 Street Improvement project which we discussed earlier in the meeting Miss F any anything you want to add to that um no I'll just give a quick recap for those that maybe weren't listening at uh who are listening after the fact um and didn't hear the special presentation the proposal for the city project 2025 is Reclamation of Pine Circle vrum area and Windridge Trail uh there's no storm improvements proposed it would be a sanitary sewer and water M uh work would be limited to installation of inflow and infiltration barriers um in Pine Circle and the replacement of a leaking water valve um at Trillium way and trillum Lane uh the proposal before Council this evening for consideration is for Design Services and then bidding Services um and then at that point if the after a bid opening if the council Awards the project we would bring forward a proposal for for construction Administration per purposes at that time um I'd be happy to answer any questions that the council may have thank you Miss vski questions we had the presentation earlier so we should be fairly well informed on it okay um is there a motion to approve Professional Services agreement for the design and bidding services for the 2025 Street Improvement project so move thank you Miss Lacy is there a second thank you Miss ref any further questions hearing none all those in favor signify with i i all those opposed motion passes by o so we'll move on to administrative items we have staff reports we have city clerk elections update well this will be really quick as you all know we had our um State primary last Tuesday um and I'm just going to kind of give you the numbers it was a slow day um at 7: a.m. we had um 6,686 registered voters in Minista um combining all four prncs the voter turnout was 527 so it it's a typical for a primary so we expect it to be a lot higher in November so um so the general election is November 5th absentee voting begins September 20th that's with the envelopes and then the direct balloting begins October 18th so any updates on um who's running for office at the city level well highly contested so we have two two that filed for the two the two Council seats the one that filed for the mayor seat correct like like Allie said highly contested okay so thank you um yes Miss refkin is running again I'm running again and then um you will be here next year so yeah thank thank you for your service and of course we'll recognize you again um and then we have a a newcomer registered so um with that any we have a update on the treatment plant yes I am filling in for Gary on this update uh so design has continued so they've had a predesigned meeting as far as layout goes and what we're really working on right now is figuring out the Ingress and egress of the plant and that'll really determine how that plant is situated on the parcel we had a very good meeting with Three Rivers Park District um and uh they're basically verbalizing that we can continue to examine the entrance off of uh Lotus um and using that uh existing drainage and utility easement that we have um for access to the road um we're also or to the plant sorry um I was jumping ahead to to trunk Highway the trunk Highway 7 access we're continuing to talk to umot but there's some additional challenges with topography and the overhead lines that may make it cost prohibitive to use that so we're hopeful that the Lotus uh Drive uh Ingress egress will work and you know working through some of those details but we're we're proceeding um the schedule that was proposed to the group I think the last meeting we're on that schedule yet so um design will continue once we get the Ingress egress figured out then we can really start laying things out accordingly and start picking away to get to 30% plans and hopefully a much better um engineer estimate that goes down so we will see um but that's all I have for the the water treatment plan update um we continue uh you'll get a more formal um project process update at the next meeting in September okay thank you all right any questions then we'll go on to uh Council reports U Miss Lacy anything no okay Mr vicory no no well um so Jasper and I attended the last um fire partnership meeting was interesting and um so yeah it's it's moving forward again still slower than we thought and uh there was some a lot more discussion this time about why we're all here and I think that needs to be made very clear and clarified because um I I think some people from other cities were thinking well we could just tweak the organizational um issues that we have and that we would be fine and that's really not the case both I just want to make this clear both City uh Chiefs both um fire chiefs both from Mound and St Bonnie are recommending um a partnership what that's going to look like we don't know it could be um a district it could be a jpa joint Powers agreement but they're recommending a joint Powers um some some kind of partnership and the reason they're they're recommending that is if you if you look at you know St Bonnie and Mound and and all of the things that are kind of the trigger points or the things the pressure points on these fire departments what are they and why are we doing this and um it's recruitment obviously same as the police department you know they they're having their issues as well even though they're their staff currently um adequately they're seeing the handwriting on the wall and they can see that it's becoming more and more difficult because of the time commitment that's being required of firefighters then there's other um also um pressure points too um and I won't get into all of those but we'll um maybe put out a um little lur page or whatever with all of the information that that we talked about at the last meeting so um I just want to make sure that um you're kept in the loop and we didn't make a lot of progress but we did decide on um we decided on the um the what eight or nine um well we the first thing we did were the rules we adopted the rules and then we did the the why I think there were 17 originally then we broke them into five different groups or four groups with an overbearing group name um so we made that progress and then started talking about what does this governmental model look like and then it kind of went sideways sideways right so um so we need to kind of bring it back to the original reason why we're all there yeah yeah can be at the next one yeah yeah so that that's really it um do we do we need um somebody for the plan commission do we have a plan Commission meeting in a no I don't believe so yeah or we do we do oh we do okay yes okay so we will meet somebody okay 99% sure okay Nick said we do okay I can probably do it unless somebody else is you want to do it um the 26 a week a week from today okay okay okay not accurate I'll message you but I'm pretty sure there is okay all right so with that um we can then be adjourned is there a motion to adjourn thank you Miss rkin is there a second second thank you Miss McGregor all those in favor signify with i i all those opposed motion passes 5 O and we are adjourned until our next meeting which is actually it's a Wednesday so just so you know Wednesday September right