Welcome to the Mound City Council meeting for uh Wednesday, August 12th, 2026. Uh we're in council chambers. Um can we do roll call? >> Council member Heric. >> Hi. Here. >> Thank you. Council member Mciny. >> Hi. >> Council member Pew. >> I. >> Acting Mayor Castellano. >> Hi. >> Thank you. >> Okay. >> All right. Now, can we stand for the pledge of allegiance? I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Try not to embarrass myself while dad's gone here. Um, let's see. Okay. Um I think we may have an amendment to the agenda before we make a motion to adopt. >> Yes. So I have two items. My apologies. One came in uh today which is in front of you to be added to the consent agenda which is council item 5i which is a temporary liquor license uh being applied for by the Mount Westka High School girls hockey. Um that's right at the end of the consent. And then also staff have been working with Harrison's Bay Association to have them come in for a presentation to tee up a potential new rain garden, talk about the rain barrel project. And um so that would be added under presentations for the council's uh consideration. >> Okay. So, no material for Harrison Bay, but just the um material for five I and then adding HBA to item six. >> Correct. After the Horno Police Department, who I'm seeing is not here, so that may be >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Um I would take a motion to adopt the agenda with those two amendments. Make a motion to adopt the agenda adding the two amendments. >> I'd like to pull F again. Just >> Well, we're not there. >> Oh, we're not there yet. >> Um, we're just adopting the general agenda. >> Yep. >> Okay. So, is that good for a motion? >> Good by me. >> Okay. Have a motion. Do we have a second? >> Second. >> Okay. All right. Um, let's see. Uh, all those in favor say I. >> I. >> Those opposed. Motion carries. Um, all right. Number four, we'll move to public comments. Um, three minutes for anyone that would like to come up and speak. We'll just give it a beat in case someone walks in. Um, for any items not on the agenda. Sorry. All right. I think we can move on from that. Um, all right. Now, the consent agenda. So, we have, um, I guess this would be at this point items A through I. And if anyone would like to discuss or pull any of those. >> I just want to pull F again for just a quick change in verbiage. >> Okay. All right. Anyone else? Okay. Um, I actually wanted to I don't need any particular discussion on any of them, but I just wanted to um clarify for anyone that's maybe watching or interested or or cares later. This is a large amount for us, but um if I just want to make remarks on them, do we need to pull them? >> Yes. >> Okay. All right. I guess D, E, F, and G. But F was already Yeah. Question. All right. Um, let's see. Do I need a motion on that or how do we >> No, you just pulled and then you can go through. Somebody go through and read A, B, C, G, and H. >> Okay. Would someone like to read consent agenda items A, B, C, H, um, >> G, and H or is GB pole too? >> GS pole. >> Okay. >> Yeah. So, A B C H and I mean if we need to reiterate I I don't know. >> Yeah. Okay. >> I can read the consent agenda. A is minutes at the July 28th uh city council regular meeting. B check registry for July 2026. C the 2025 audit second extension request. Um and Hound Wound West Tanka Hockey Association gambling permit. And then I is um the Mount West Tanka Hockey Girls Association one day to 4-day temporary on sale liquor license. >> Okay. Does anybody have any discussion on those items? >> There's no discussion. >> Oh, there there is no discussion on those items. >> You just need a a motion in a second. >> Um I'd like a motion to approve uh consent agenda items A, B, C, H, and I. So moved. >> Okay, we have a motion. Do we have a second for those five items? >> Second. >> Okay. Um, all those in favor? >> I >> I >> I. >> All those opposed. All right. So now, um, I don't know. We could do >> F. >> And and I should say each of them should be considered individually with separate motions. >> Uh, okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. We could do F. Well, F again, I hate to sound like a broken record, but I think for anybody checking on the cost of where we're heading with the infrastructure um versus the actual um water treatment plant. I think we should change again. It says for the water treatment improvements, it it really should just say infrastructure improvements, water infrastructure improvements. So change F to read um pay requests all that that's all the way the same through Minger construction and then change it to say um for water infrastructure improvements. >> Right. >> Correct. >> And then the rest the phase two all the same. Okay. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Um I don't any discussion or problem on that. Uh do we need a motion to >> Okay. Motion to approve um the verbiage change to consent agenda item F. Second. >> I don't think I have a motion yet. >> I thought you said that. Oh, I thought he said I have a motion. >> Would anybody like to make that motion? >> Uh motion to adopt change in verbiage for I >> actually make them make I'll say the motion and you say >> Okay, got it. Is this a motion to approve pay request number six in the amount of $633 uh,780 and44 to Minger Construction for water infrastructure improvements phase 2 city project number PW-25-12. >> Okay. >> So you make that motion. So say motion as the attorney said. >> Uh motion to approve what the attorney just said. >> All right. We have a motion. Do we have a second? >> Second. All those in favor? >> I >> I. >> Those opposed? >> Motion carries. >> Um, I just wanted to talk about DE, FNG in general, and I just honestly felt like it needed clarification that it's a lot of money, but that it all fell into um items that we went out for bid for in the past fit in the capital improvement plan and fit in the budget. you know, it's not like an additional expense or anything, but they're big. So, it was all it was all planned and budgeted for. And then regarding F, again, um I think I clarified with Jesse that that's part of the you know, that huge amount of money we're being reimbursed for. So, I just felt like that needed to be said out loud for anybody that had questions on that, but I didn't need to make any other remarks. So, um, unless anybody has any other discussion, I guess I would make a motion to approve um the remaining consent agenda items D, E, F, and G. Do we need to read them aloud? >> Um, I would say um do it this way each one individually because separate motions. >> Okay. >> You can say motion to approve item say uh is it D? uh item 5D as um as uh noted in the uh snap report. >> Okay, that'll be >> all right. >> May I ask a question >> on G? Do we know which streets have been completed or what they're billing us for? >> I see a lot of streets that are not completed. So, I'm just curious if where we are. >> Can you answer that, Matt? Brian, >> Brian, I'm sorry. >> Good evening. Brian Simmons, consulting city engineer. I have to apologize. You actually have caught me by surprise with that question. We can definitely get you an accounting of how far along that project is. >> Um, that is a pretty decent chunk of that project. Um, so based on what I understand from the last progress meeting, we're a little over 60% complete, I believe. >> Okay. >> But I can get you an actual map. probably just the high profile that I'm seeing, which are the ones right here downtown and coming along. >> Yep. We're in everybody's faces with yellow iron. >> Yeah, >> absolutely. >> Okay, I'm good then. >> Okay. And that was kind of why I wanted to like bring it up just saying that it was all all budgeted for and >> it was our >> what we went off for bid for. >> Um Okay. And actually, I think we should just if we're looking this over um just say the motion. It would be motion to approve and then say the motion out that's in the in the agenda. >> Um >> so starting with the >> Well, I mean I can just ask for a motion on each one separately. >> Okay. All right. >> So we have remaining consent agenda items D, E, F with the verbiage change and then G. Um I would >> F we already did. Uh, we approved the verbiage change and approved it. Approved it. >> Great. All right. Um, we'll just go through de andg. Um, I would take a motion to approve um consent agenda item 5D pay request in the amount of 24,673.50 um to KM for well number eight. >> And whoever does it just can say so. So moved. >> So moved. >> Second. >> Okay. Um all those in favor? I >> I >> I those opposed. All right. Motion carries. Um I'm just going to read these. It might be faster that way, but um All right. Consent agenda item 5e. Pay request in the amount of $178,134.50 to tanks company for project PW2610. I would >> So moved. >> So moved. All right. Second. We >> have a second. All those in favor? I >> I. Those opposed. All right. Motion carries. And then lastly, um G, um pay request number two in the amount of $428,75822 for project PW2601 and 2602. Motion to uh approve that. >> So moved. >> Okay. Have a motion and a second. >> All those in favor? >> I. Those opposed. All right. Consent agenda finally wrapped up. Um All right. And then number six, I think we'll just forego the um police department presentation and move on to Harrison Bay. >> Great. Okay, we're up. >> Thank you. >> Awesome. Um I don't think I've met you all. I'm Angela Hamilton. I'm working with sharing the team on water quality and I think we've got a couple slides. Jesse, you got those? Okay, perfect. So maybe what I'll do, I'll take you through what we've accomplished so far and then we'll talk a little bit about Ashlin Lane specifically. So you can go to the next slide. Um so since we started the rain barrel program, we've sold 252 rain barrels and that's up and running in Mountain Minista. Um, last year we set up the rain garden at the end of Cardinal Lane and I think you all were familiar with that. We've got a couple pictures of that and that uh was in partnership with the city. Uh, we applied for and received a second grant in the amount of $8,400 to expand the rain garden project. And part of why we have some urgency and wanted to get on the agenda today is that grant actually runs out at the end of 2026. So that's part of why we want to kind of move on uh the funds and then we continue to maintain the um educational information for residents on the website. So just a couple updates on what we've done. Go to the next slide. This is Cardinal. Um you all probably remember what it looked like before and on the right is what it looks like now. Uh the homeowners that are right next to that space, Phyllis and Morgan, have done a really nice job maintaining it. and we're going to do a couple additional um improvements in the next, you know, few weeks just concerning plants and so forth. But it certainly has been a great success and helped really control the runoff uh that's going from that street. >> Yeah. >> Is the 8400 that's about to expire. Are you going to use that on Cardinal Lane? >> We want to use it mostly on Ashlin Lane, which is really kind of the the majority of what we want to talk about tonight. Um there's a little bit that would go towards Cardinal, but really it's just supplemental plants. Yeah. Other questions about Cardinal? All right. Well, let's move to Ashlin. So, I am actually one of the homeowners on one side of Ashlin and then the Greyhouse that you kind of see there on the other side is the calluses throughout town this week. Um, but they were equally on board u with this idea and I would say less of a full-on rain garden as maybe what you know at the end of Cardinal and a little bit more of a an improvement project. Um, because when we look at the drainage area and what's coming down the street, Ashlin's got like a longer slope and it's not as much of a huge gush in terms of what's going kind of directly from uh the street into the lake. So, what we've come up with is just a slightly different plan uh that utilizes the funds that we have, but isn't as extensive as um what we did at Cardinal. So, you see on the left uh the drainage areas, 72,000 square feet, about 35,000 square feet of imperous surface um with one inch of rain um at that approximate cut off. And then with the current slope, the way the water drains is like down to the um gray house. So it drains into their yard and then kind of slow gradual drain into the lake. But the site has really good filtration. So we did the filtration test of approximately 6 in per hour. Pause. There are questions about that piece. kind of what we uncovered as we did the filtration component. No. So, what we're recommending this is um Sherry and I leverage a couple different engineers as we did um our kind of surveying and trying. But certainly, you know, if the city engineers want to look at this as as well, we'd welcome it. So, what we're proposing is more of a burm with boulders on the right side there where you see that blue shading to hold the water in at the end of the street and allow infiltration and direct flow. So, again, less of a deep basin as what we had at Cardinal, but more of a boulder with like a more shallow basin. And then in that kind of main section, we will plant um natives into the area that the city has done one clearing on already. So, actually Kevin and Jordan came through and did uh like a first grade clearing and then we'd utilize that current slope to reduce the amount of uh root disruption for the trees because there are trees in that space. Um and then again, our budget that we're targeting for that is approximately $7,000. And so are you asking for the city to add to your cost? >> I'll tell you what we're asking for. That's on the next slide. Good leading, Kathy. So our ask of you all is a couple things. One is just approving the project obviously because it's um it's common space. The second is waving the permit fee. The third is there stumps in that space. So, this was a space over the last couple years where the city used a lot of your um I think it was grant funds through Davey's tree to remove diseased trees. So, in order for the landscaper to kind of get in there and do the work, the stumps would have to be pulled and ground out. So, we're asking the city to do that and then just dispose of any plant materials. So, those are the core asks of you all. I think um didn't the city help with Cardinal? >> Yes. >> Like Buckshorn and other stuff? >> Yeah, the city did a ton with Cardinal. I mean, a lot more than I think what our ask is here. The biggest thing here is really the stumps and just any kind of removal of debris at the end. >> Can um our public works remove stumps or do we have to hire that out? >> Well, I think it kind of depends. Um we certainly have hired it out. Um, I don't think we have the tools per se, but um, you know, we do remove a lot of stuff. So, I would just say it probably be supplemental to the type of work we're already doing. Um, but >> yeah, I mean, short answer is yes. >> I guess I'm curious, why didn't we remove them when we cut the trees down? >> Is that Yeah, I mean, we we did cut the trees down. >> Yeah, >> the city did it through Davey. I think Davey was a subcontractor, but um in the time I've been there, which is about three and a half years, almost 10 trees have been taken down, but they left to your point all the stumps for whatever reason. >> Can we check and make sure that Davies wasn't supposed to remove the stumps as part of their contract? >> Please, >> that's a good question. And again, a little bit like timing is of the essence because we don't want to lose the seven grand. We actually got a great bid from Norlings. So, they were super excited to do it and met us kind of at the budget that we had. And then um we're getting a second bid tomorrow from the contractor that did uh carton. >> And when does this expire? The >> I think the end of 2026, right? >> December 31st. >> So, you have to have everything in place by December. acting on it. >> There's an option to request an extension. I'm not sure. They only gave us one year on this one for whatever reason. Um, and so we would have to go back to Henry County and ask them if we could get an extension. We may ask for an extension due to the planting of the natives. Depending on the timing of everything, we may want to do that in the spring. Well, I mean, Cardinal Lane has really worked great. It's been amazing because that was really beat up down there. >> Yes. >> I haven't looked at this, so I'd have to go down and see. >> This would be the fourth one, actually. >> Um there's one by Sherry's um property, one by um >> Apple Lane, and then the Cardinal Lane one. And I guess like the other piece here is because Jordan and Kevin came in and already did a preliminary clear clearing, we're kind of like halfway there. You know what I mean? >> Yeah. >> So, whose property is this? Is it the city's own? >> It's a city. It's common's property. >> That's what I was Yeah. Okay. >> Cool. >> Um, >> and you said the homeowners on the other side are okay. They're totally on board because they have the worst erosion issue from all of the stuff that just braces down the street and goes into their yard. >> Yeah. All right. >> Can I Yeah. >> Sure. >> Sure. Yeah, >> of course. Come on up. >> So, um, the comment that I want to make is just that, um, we request that the homeowners sign an agreement that they will maintain the rain garden. And so it will be operational for 10 years. >> And that's the same as the other ones, right? That was like I remember you guys saying >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> Correct. >> And that's why they didn't happen in a couple spots. But >> that is why it didn't happen in a couple spots. Correct. >> All right. Yeah. That's awesome. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yep. >> Yeah. I mean, and to that like we live there, you know, we mow it, we we all like we just try to make it look nice for for everyone who has a dock there. >> Cool. >> Cool. >> Okay. um what is our uh next steps with with this or are we just >> So I guess the piece on the stumps is the biggest piece like I don't know if that's something we could figure out in the next couple weeks or so and then if we are able to get them out before we select a final contractor we would start the project if we have the um council's approval probably at towards the end of September. >> Okay. Yeah. I mean, this is pretty minimal involvement for us. Like you said, it's already mostly cleared and we we're happy with the other >> Mhm. >> three or four. This would be the fourth. >> Fourth. >> Um the other three. So, I mean, I don't know unless anyone else has any questions or discussion on it. I think it would be like a >> preach thing. >> Ryan's not here. So, >> well, and it would to know about this. So, we could have gone down to inspect Ashland, but >> could we go to go to preach next? Maybe. >> You could go down there and look at it. Is that what you just said? Well, I would have preferred to do it prior beforehand is what she's saying. We just didn't >> Oh, I see. >> We didn't see this until now. >> So, if I may, there's We still need to process a public lands permit, >> which I have. >> So, you're So, this will come back to council. This was um because you'll have to be the final vote on on a public lands permit to actually install something. Um I'm I'm pretty comfortable with at a staff level taking a look at the stump situation and and you know if they're in the way or if they should have been gone in the first place. I mean it's not a big deal. >> Sure. >> But so >> this is a setup for a conversation that you'll be able to have again later. So I would say that the council still has time to be able to take a look >> and come back and then we'll we can work together term. I think the gist of it was basically if you stood up here and the council said >> we're not interested then we move forward. Yeah, that makes sense. >> So, >> okay. >> But I and you mentioned you had the the permit, so we'll get that started right away, too. >> Okay, perfect. Good. Great. Well, thank you for considering approveing the fee. >> Oh, okay. >> The fee that'll be part of the uh >> final thing. Okay. All right. >> I can talk to it if you'd like. >> What is the fee? >> Like 25 bucks or something. >> Oh, sure. >> Okay. Yes, this was the final final as my son always says here. So, um, we've had success with the rain barrels, as you all know. We want to continue the program, and we have the ask of using the garage ramp for distribution, assistance from the city with unloading the barrels, and then the discount of $30 on each barrel sold to residents. >> When is when is it again? Did you say that? I'm sorry. >> Um, so the ordering happens in March. >> Okay. >> For them, we have to order them in bulk um by the end of by December. >> Okay. And then the pre-sale happens in March. The distribution, we have flexibility with the distribution, so we can work with public works to figure out what makes sense or if there's anything else going on. It's nice to do it on a Saturday morning, you know, so people can come and do it. last time we did it, which was not this year. We took a break this year, was to um was the previous year and we teamed with Minatrista also and the last couple years that we did it and so they also offered the discount. >> Yeah, I know the residents loved it. Wasn't there a permit for the amount of like I don't know having all those barrels like in the >> space or something like that? >> You do a permit for that >> just for like for that. But yeah. >> Yeah. >> And when did you say the distribution was in >> May? >> May. May. >> Um, we have done it traditionally in May. >> Yeah, >> it's been kind of timed with the farmers market. >> Right. >> I'm sorry. >> I said you've timed it with the farmers market. >> We did and we there was one year where we did it as kind of a bigger event. We just don't have the same volunteers to do that kind of thing. So, >> that was a really good event. >> Yeah. People loved it. >> It was really informative. >> Yeah. at those educational tables. >> There aren't any. >> Yeah, we're also reaching out to Minnetonka Beach and and Spring Park to see if they want to team up on it also because, you know, the more local communities we can get involved, the more rain barrels we can get out there. >> How many do you think you're going to? >> Well, it depends on the number of cities that kind of raise their hand and say they're going to join up. Um but the minimum order is 72. >> Okay. >> So the 252 was from 2025. >> No, we did it for um three different years. No, it was >> But you didn't combined. >> It was a combined. >> Got it. >> Yeah, we did it in 22 23 and 24 and 25. Maybe it was a little four years. >> Four years. I don't I don't have that information in front of me. >> All right. >> You know, have you guys ever looked at getting any sort of recognition for your gardens? Like I'm wondering the League of City has an environmental >> thing that different cities join. I mean, because I think I think there's something we should really market and be proud of. Um, these gardens are really nice and >> it's um was one of the city council members from Arnold called me. I remember we went over. She wanted to come and see our rain gardens. >> Yeah. >> Um, >> it's really quite incredible the number of pollinators you see on those gardens. I mean, they are just covered >> in pollinators. So, it's pretty cool. >> Awesome. So, I think what we're asking for is does the city want to participate? >> You know, I >> I would say yeah. I mean, we'll just wait to see what Ryan comes back with stump stuff, but >> Well, this isn't this isn't the stump on this. >> Not the rain. >> The $30 discount, >> right? Not rain garden, not rain barrel. I would say, yeah, I mean, just adding the, >> you know, the need for a permit or something for the space, but if it's the same as previous years, I don't see why not. >> Yeah. And I think the biggest thing is approving the discount. >> Brings a lot of people down >> for you guys to approve that. So I don't know if >> So it's $30 time 72. >> H >> Why do we have to approve the discount? I'm sorry. >> I don't think we >> Well, you're paying for it. >> We're We're giving $30 for every >> Oh, so we're supplementing the cost of the barrels. Correct. >> Okay. >> Correct. So, I think if we look at historically how much that has been, it's been I don't know. I think at most maybe it was $1,500. >> Yeah. I mean, even if sold >> all 72 specifically to mound residents, >> which would be >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So we just supplement the mound residents and then >> so they're about $100 a piece and so it's a $30 discount. But if other cities are participating too, >> I don't think it's ever been $1,500. So >> plus there's people that buy it from other cities and they put pay full price. >> Cool. >> Yeah. So I think that's the biggest question that you guys need to approve. And then it's using public works. They actually bring in the forklift and because they come in big pallets and they >> have to help rewrap them and get them into the parking garage for us. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Gets everyone down in the park, too. >> Yeah. I mean, if the total was 252 barrels, that's only 7560 for the entire amount over the entire three or four years. It's not a big investment. And the savings in in city water just for the use of them and using it's a it's a lot of savings. I think it's 1,300 gallons a year if people regularly use their rain barrel. >> Does anybody have any questions for HBA or further discussion on either? >> Nope. Oh, >> thank you for doing the site. >> All right. >> Okay. >> Thanks. >> Oh, that's >> my rain barrel broke this year and flex seal does not work. >> That's good to know. I tried to buy >> went to Menards and doubled up and used all of it. >> Our consultants did give a subsidy. >> Brian just reminded us that they gave $10 towards each. >> Thank you both and Okay. Yeah. Awesome. >> If they're going to do it again. >> All right, we'll find out. >> All right. Well, if we don't have any more questions, I think I'll move on to >> the next agenda item. Thank you guys. >> Thank you, ladies. >> For the >> for now, >> for the discount, the rain barrels. >> Oh, okay. All right. >> Good night. >> Thank you. >> All right. Um, I think I'll move on to number seven. Um, and we'll just not do OPD. Um, so no public hearings. Uh, number eight, no old business. Right. >> Right. >> Okay. Number nine, no new business. Um, number 10, um, we'll just go down the line here. Um, comments and reports from all of you. Just start with Council Member Heric. >> I don't really have anything. >> All right. Council member Mciny. >> Well, I don't know. I think tonight would be a good night to thank all the businesses and residents >> for enduring, you know, sort of the disruption they've been dealing with since June. And, you know, we that we really do recognize the profitability loss for a lot of the businesses and that we certainly empathize with them. And it's I see light at the end of the tunnel while I drive down there. So the city and Bolton M and Minger are working as hard as they can to get this done as quickly as they can. So >> thank you to everybody for getting through this tough period of time in L, you know, to get us good water hopefully. >> That's all I've got. >> That's it. Okay. Um I think that would highlight too. I mean, just with HBA and like a simple event in the park, it's like once this is done, we all want to have as much stuff going on down there as we can to like >> keep it busy. >> Yeah. >> Um, Council Member Pew. >> Well, I went to um what is it? It's not National Night Out anymore. Communities United uh with the fire department and it was fun. Uh we went to Peligan Beach uh that community and um went to someone on the island uh Chester and gosh, we went to five different parties. But it was good good night. Lots of um people, you know, in the neighborhoods there. Lots of kids. So there are a lot of young kids in the community now, which is kind of neat to see. uh you know those sort of pre-teen age kids, there were a lot of those um at it. So that was um a good a good evening. And then today, as I was doing my walk, my marathon walk, uh I passed by um Old Lakeshore Drive in Marian and they paved it and it looks so nice because people would always complain it was the worst street in the whole town. >> And so it's patching. >> Yeah. Now it's got a nice smooth black top. Um the guy was out there with the roller rolling, pressing it down. So, like you said, Kathy, um we've endured a lot of construction, but a lot of things are happening. >> Well, and it's a really nice bonus for uh the ice cream shop, the sidewalk. Oh, and the sidewalk. They did a really nice sidewalk for him, >> too, which is really nice because he doesn't have he has a zero >> lot line. So, the only other thing I'd suggest is I think that we need more bike um what do you call it? Bike stands around. Yeah, >> we only have like four there. There's a few right by the water closet place and then on the other end there's some but um you know and people don't use them very often I think. Um, I think they're in the wrong spot. I think they should probably be on the grass. >> Yeah. >> Between the trail and and the parking um and stuff. So, >> wasn't Ryan ordering? Huh? >> I thought Ryan was ordering one. Didn't we not get it? >> May have been. I don't I don't know. >> Yeah, I know. He talked about it in his presentation. >> Yeah. >> So, maybe it's just not here yet. >> Yeah, it's not there yet now. cuz I think the other ones that are over by the um bathrooms are >> they're single. Yeah, >> they belong to the >> county. >> Yeah. >> And the ones on the end by the um hardware store of the counties, too. >> Right. So, yeah, I I thought he said he was ordering some, so maybe he just >> hasn't gotten to it or they haven't come in yet. That could be the other problem. >> It was definitely part of >> It was part of the presentation. Yeah, >> I know. know he's been a little busy so a break at this point. >> We we really owe public works a lot of praise and Brian too because obviously >> you've been doing a lot of work >> when the businesses are feeling and residents are feeling the burden >> they let public works have it and Brian and so we appreciate your patience too. >> That's all mine. >> That's it. >> All right. Um, I just have a a couple things. Um, I talked to one resident who was asking about an emerald ash emerald ashbor grant that was available through the county. Um, and then speaking with Jesse, I guess Ryan Pereach is already kind of like applying for it. I don't know when the deadline is, but um, it sounds like it's like up to 150 grand. >> So, I don't know if we could just get an update on >> Sure. like what I don't even know what the deadline is, but it'd be really cool to find to find out if it materializes at all. >> Well, we've been receiving that grant for years now. >> Oh, we've been that's I think the majority of our the work we've been doing, especially around the common areas, has been through maybe >> those trees that got chopped down aren't taken. >> Yeah. Yeah. The stumps are there. >> Uhhuh. >> All right. So, we do that like every year >> as long as they've been doing it. Yeah. >> Okay. Cool. >> All right. Well, um Are we replacing do we have a strategy? Are we replacing hardwood trees >> because it's you know like when I look at the park it's all soft wood and you know we were a hardwood forest really and everyone's replacing with soft wood instead of hardwood which is changing the forestry >> of the community. Um, so I would like I don't know >> as if we don't usually follow up. I had no idea that it was happening like annually or you know >> we can uh I'll I'll talk to him tomorrow and we can maybe summarize it quickly out in a council update just to say >> okay >> there's so many trees that have come down. >> I mean in my corner in my block there's been six trees that have come down and now we've got two more that need to come down. There's a lot of dead attorneys in our area. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Private and >> it adds up fast. >> I know Ryan's been on it for years. >> I was at the I mean I was just going there to go on a bike ride, but it was like packed that the second or the last music in the park. >> That was just awesome. That park was full. Um is there like a possibility that we could expand that to more? Is it really is it just two times? >> Well, it's the community ad that does it. I I talked to Scott Lkey after I visited with you and >> their budget is for three months. >> Okay. >> But they're gonna look to see if they can expand it possibly for maybe a May and maybe in >> September >> because when you see how it like lays out now with I mean having tables and chairs helps, but like now that it's all done, it's like we should >> I don't know try to partner with them or see if we can get >> Yeah. You know, I was at um >> I don't know. >> I was at Orno Long Lakes Parade on Saturday >> and they had a thing and I was wondering they had a a truck come through that said music in the parks >> and um that's something they do in their parks. We might want to see. >> Yeah. I mean, I know Excelsier has some pretty big names, but if we slowly were able to grow it and >> I don't want to work with them, that'd be pretty cool. >> It would. Um the last thing I had was just that uh the budget committee or finance committee were meeting every week this month. Um except for just this week. So um we haven't gotten to the point of seeing like departmental budgets yet, but just Lindsay and and Leila explaining the why behind the what on everything and we're kind of still to that point. But um I don't know. I think it looks really good. It's kind of following our plan. So, just a busy month for that before we do the um preliminary levy in September. >> I am interested to see how you guys have shaped the budget. You know, we've had so many new hires. >> Yeah. >> And how that's >> I I'm having a hard time finding where we've budgeted for that. So, that will be really helpful. >> Yeah. It's >> to look at interesting. I mean, it's having a hard time with it, too. >> Just to make sure >> see how it all comes together and then >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So we have we're meeting every week. It's just not this week. So yeah, that's about all I had. That's all I got. Anything um reports from the city manager? >> Um no, I So Sarah Smith and I were at Music in the Park last week doing some outreach for the comp plan. I thought we had most people weren't really interested in hanging around to talk since there was music playing, but a lot we gave out a lot of cards. So, I think we've been getting good feedback and uh yeah, no, it's great. That's I think it's a really really cool spot. So, that's all I have other than that. I think it said the 26th on the agenda for the next meeting is the 25th. Back to Tuesday like normal. So, >> Oh, yeah. Okay. So, um next regular council meeting, Tuesday, August 25th, >> and that's the big water meeting, >> not the 26th >> that people should be here to listen to. >> Yes. So the the budget or the the agenda item will be requesting to go out to bid for a water treatment. >> Not committing to anything just literally like our like the streets projects like just going out for bid >> approval to go out for bid. >> Correct. Before we can before the city council can approve the project, we'll have to we have to solicit bids. So >> see where they even come in. This is the sort of the culmination of >> the design work that's been paid for through the uh state appropriate sorry appropriation from >> okay >> three years ago. >> Cool. Um do we have I mean I guess to your point um Kathy it was like we're do we have any like plan posts or you know stuff between now and then just the normal water communication we've been doing for the last >> four years. >> I think that we have more to put up there. Yeah. We're trying to anything that the council will see or will have seen will continue to be included. Sure. So, um >> you know, one thing that will be in that I because one of the questions that I've seen is um >> what's the cost breakdown? Why is why is this cost this and why does that cost that? Um >> part of that is of going out to bid. If you're familiar with like when we do the >> um the street project, right? there's a breakdown of uh the costs for all the batuminous and the costs for the mobilization and stuff. So that will be an opportunity to see more of an a better estimate of what we think the water plant is going to cost. Of course, we've been working on pretty round numbers. Um but the background work has been to really get that uh nailed down to what our engineers feel is a good estimate. We're always conservative, but um and then of course going to bid for four weeks. >> Okay. >> It's just a herable for >> Yeah. And then of course hope for low numbers. >> Yeah. >> All right. >> Will part of that bid include like replacement of the trees and landscaping that's going to be required or was that separate from that? >> Included the site work is included with the plan. >> Okay. >> Site work. But does that mean replacing trees? I know we had talked about putting back some hardwoods. >> There's some screening. There's some things happening on the sites. Um I should probably have the team check in if we are going to have some specific input on types of trees rather than Ryan saying everything should be an autolaze maple because they grow really fast and Ryan nodding his head. We have not we've not gotten to that level of input and I am interested in that from you all. Yeah, because we cut down quite a bit of trees and I know there were people that were very upset about it, but also I think it's important just to, you know, to Sherry's point, but also just replacing the trees that we've lost. So, and I, >> you know, I think sometimes we've never talked about having a city reforestation plan, >> you know, kind of to help people even just to give people ideas. um when you tear down like I lost three T trees in my backyard. Now some of my son says I don't need them and replace them but if I was going to replace them to know what would be the best to replace you know u given my sight and stuff. So just sort of general information like that would be good for the community to have. Now, I don't know. Do does the tree trust are they still involved in men in Minneapolis? >> That's a good question. >> The tree trust was is a group. It's a nonprofit. When I worked in North Minneapolis, they gave us 70 trees a year for free to plant in the community. And um and they have youth who come out and help you plant >> your trees and stuff. >> I'm sure. >> Yeah. All right. >> But they they might be a source. >> Oh, sorry. Can you make sure you know that road leading up to that water treatment plant, we cut down all those pine trees that I think the neighbor thought he owned, but >> Yeah. Can we make sure we address that area? >> That's where the screening I mentioned is mostly focused on because of the fact that we located the driveway to the plant all the way over to the one side of Sorbbo Park to sort of continue to maximize the park. Mhm. >> Um we we're up against our neighbors. >> Yes. >> So that is where we will be doing some active screening, some planting and some things. Um >> Okay. >> Yeah. I could even bring some details of that and a little bit more to the next meeting if you'd like. >> I'd kind of like to see that, please. >> Yeah, absolutely. I guess that's part of why I came tonight was because I assume there probably were questions. Originally, we had talked about approving that tonight. Obviously, we're not doing that. So, um, just wanted to make sure as we approach, you know, sort of a watershed moment for us upon absolutely intended that, um, you know, we we've given you all the information you need to make a good decision moving forward. >> Help us understand those who are listening. So, when you put this out to bid, you're at this point estimating it's going to be about $43,000. Is that correct? >> Better add one more zero. But yes, >> four >> 43. >> Oh, yeah. 40. Now, I do need one more zero. So that so that number that number I will say is it's not outdated but that is the number that we put on the street when we were discussing this as a whole package. >> This actually speaks to um when you pulled the earlier agenda item why we have been referring to this other project as the water treatment infrastructure project because it is upsized and replaced water manes that are required to install so we can place the plant where we want to. Um, so we're dealing with um, you know, we've spent some of that money already. The the dollars that we've gotten, the two grants from the federal government and the one appropriation from the state. Some of that money has been spent on the infrastructure project. Some of that money has been spent on us in putting the design on the street. And so now we're down to what is left, you know, the 30 some odd million that the plant will come in at. So, you know, at one point, Brian, and and you were probably just being proactive, but you said at some point this could reach $60 million. >> I was probably just trying to make sure we didn't chew on it for too long. I I remember saying that probably at this microphone. Yes. When being asked about how long can we go? >> Does that does that click for you? >> Well, it does definitely. So, I I I'm just confused when you put this out to bid how much time we have for our 43 million to suddenly accumulate to 50 million. >> This should be rubber This should be rubber hits the road. >> Okay. >> Um not not at the next meeting because we won't have actual contractor numbers, but at the is it October 6th? >> 13. >> October 13th. Thank you, Jesse. Is when we will have actual contractor bids. That is sort of the like this this is how when we know exactly how much it will cost, what is the industry telling us? What is the state of the local contractors? How do they feel about risk? How well did we do in designing the project? That is when we will have all of those questions answered collectively. >> And then on October 13th, will we also be able to have numbers put together for people to understand what their water bills are going to look like. >> Yeah. >> And and where and how we're going to get to that point. >> So, we're, you know, we've obviously been using an estimate to this point. So barring something wildly out of sync one way or the other, you know, it'll just be fine-tuning. But that's the idea is that we'll be able to give some uh much better numbers at that point. And then um the nice thing too is that well so we won't obviously we don't finalize the utility bills until later in the year, but so um we will be so they open the bids a couple weeks prior to the meeting. So we'll have 10 days or so to to do some work on that. Um, and we'll get as much in in the packet as we can and plan to present whatever we can the night of. So, it's >> Yeah, it'll be pretty much just all out on that council meeting to make sure that there's nothing left out of the packet. If if if you know, unless >> it bid will just get us the answers where >> and transparent answers. Not $2 a month, but where is all of that coming from? >> It's all about the bids. Yeah. Okay. And so at one point you talked about uh August 25th was going to be the big water meeting, but it really is October 13th for residents to understand final cost and what they're paying for. >> I don't want to underell I don't want to underell the 25th, but that October 13th meeting is is sort of the these are the next two major milestones. >> Okay. >> Next two major milestones. >> Thank you. Yep. You all have to approve the the advertisement for bids and the the solicitation for bids. And then that next meeting in October, that 13th one, is when we will have the bids back. >> And this is where I think that the residents need to be very aware that we will be voting on this. And >> if they have an objection or whatever, that's the time they need to come >> voice their concerns >> because the 25th is the go no go. >> Yep. >> Decisive, right? >> The 13th. October 13th is the go no go. >> You you could you could halt things at the 25th as well if you wanted to. But in terms of the steps, you will have more information to make a decision at the October 13th meeting. >> Yeah. >> Right. >> Well, not really. >> Would that be a public hearing? >> It is not a public hearing. >> Yeah, I didn't think so. >> People should still come, you know, >> but but we need to make it very >> Yep. >> Um >> so when is the public hearing? >> There is no public hearing. There is no public hearing. >> This is our decision to make. That's why I want to make sure residents understand >> that at one point we talked about having a public hearing for this >> to let residents voice their opinions >> and now we've decided that this will be ours to make. So we want the residents to be very clear >> on costs and >> and I I I want the residents to be notified more than once that this is happening on October 13th. Yes. And and I I will think that um selfishly I think we're doing a pretty good job on getting those num those dates out there. Um and we will continue to do that. Um just for anybody that's listening, the clarification on the public hearing portion is, you know, when we're statutoily required to do it. We hold the hearings getting a variance like that. This just doesn't require that. This it's essentially the same process as the street project. you know, that's I forget what the estimate was for this year, but that was over a $1 million street project, you know, and it's the same process. It's just when you multiply it by 25 to 30, it starts to get >> it feels like there should be more, but it's um functionally the same. >> Yeah, we've done a great job or we you guys have done a great job of communicating it and it's literally been years >> and I think that newsletter went out, the water newsletter was really informative. I mean, I think it was missing some key points, and I'm going to bring it up again. I keep asking us to reference this, but residents are not going to see any improvement in their water for up to two years following construction and residents need to hear this because we need to manage their expectations. >> It's two years before we hold Jesse upside down under the tap to drink first water coming out. Right. >> Exactly. And Jesse, do you want to be publicly fogged like that? No. We need to do a better job at communicating that. >> You said under the tap. That's two puns. I'm just writing that down. >> I'll write you a check later for >> Yeah, because we're not because we're not assessing, right, the the different funding mechanisms that we're talking about using for this do not require hearings and we have had some hearing, you know, and for hearings there also is a statutory uh notification period. I think we're probably blowing that out of the water in terms of >> three. >> How many times and how many different ways that we are going to communicate and let people know that Jesse and staff are already working on this is happening on the sixth. >> Well, people have selective hearing. >> You know, over all of this time we've been talking about this. >> We have talked about public hearing. So, I just want to make sure people aren't expecting to show up on on the 13th and be able to have any kind of input other than we approve or we object. >> Yeah. And to be fair, I mean, this is something that people can come, you know, it's number uh four on our agenda every single meeting. You know, people can come talk about it and >> Yeah. >> They're not I mean, a lot of people are >> and we have had some come. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So >> they're just >> Yeah. >> I I just You've done a great job >> keeping everybody informed. I just think it we're at the point of managing expectations >> for sure. >> The best we can. >> Yeah. >> We've um just two points on that too is one certainly if you've got input whoever's listening send it in whenever. Right. I mean that's a great day to be here. We encourage you to be here but >> um anything we can >> sort of chew on beforehand is helpful too. Um, I think we've heard pretty much every question, but you know, I'm always ready to be surprised. >> Um, and the other one, uh, and now I'm blanking on it because I got went off on a tangent. >> I doesn't matter. I was I was thinking about something that you said earlier and it, um, I think it was just mostly just that Oh, it just it's just going to be a giant PR thing for us. Basically, if on October 13th the city council votes to approve a a bid and we start moving forward, that's going to be our top priority is just constant communication and >> um how we do that will be remain to be seen. But it's because it is going to be that it's going to be people wondering why that we didn't just flip the switch and then suddenly >> uh and and a lot of the stuff that's going to go on while we do do that because the the when they have to get the chemistry right, we're going to be moving water around again. Um, we are doing the other water tower next year, too. It's in the CIP. So, um, we just be talking about water for the next two years. >> Well, and you know what, Brian, I think, and you always do a great job explaining things, but I think when you're putting this out there that, you know, we won't see water color relief or rust relief for two years following the construction, you know, the why. I' I've had that asked a million times. Well, why will it take two years? >> You know, and in my non brain like you have, and I just keep saying it's water shifting around, but I'm sure it's much more detailed than that. >> So, we're going to dig a big hole in the ground. They're going to fill part of it with concrete, and then you're going to see a bunch of pipes go into it, and then there'll be a building spring up, and then it'll seem like it's taking a really long time as we move a bunch of equipment and more pipes inside the building. And then there is a period of time where the water plant itself is commissioned. I have already had a long conversation with Ryan, Mr. Preach, about uh what flushing looks like in 2029. >> Yeah. >> Because we are going to be at some point dealing with a water chemistry equilibrium when we start putting our non-manganese, noniron laden water into the system. We're going to move a bunch more stuff around. We're probably going to have some events and some calls when that occurs. And then things are going to, you know, we're going to do flushing probably twice that year. Um, and then things are going to start to it will ramp down from there. It will be better. There will be clean water, you know, and once we get past that hump, but it's going to be, you know, we're standing here in 2026 talking about the fact that we'll be getting calls about water quality in 29, but that's very real. I I wish we could just drop in a finished plan >> in the fact that they'll have already been paying for this for two years. >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> Correct. >> And and again, I just want our residents to be aware of this that this is not a flip switch. No. We wish it was but this is the process >> and and when you explain to people why I think they can you know they can go with us they can they can appreciate >> there is a difference too the manganese is one issue the red coloration in the water >> is another issue >> that's the oxidized iron that we will also be removing right >> that isn't it's it's a nuisance but that's >> that doesn't make people sick it just >> the guy who came with the jar water remember couple weeks ago it wasn't about the manganesees. It was about that >> color piece that >> the manganesees is the black stuff. >> Yeah. >> Well, and that's what most mound residents have an issue with with the rusty water. So, >> yeah, it'll be really great when we can say hip hip, you know. >> Well, this is a test of us being responsible council people doing the right thing for our citizens. Yeah, >> I'd like to think that we have been fairly nimble on this and realistically this is going to be a full 10 years of effort >> from start to finish >> from when we first, you know, during the weird co meetings in the the gym, you know, at West Hanka when we first introduced this and and we told people, hey, this is in our water and we're required to notify you and you need to know and you need to know how your infants drink the water. You know, from that to having clean water, it's going to be about a full 10 years even though we've moved fairly quickly. say only 10 years. >> I know. Oh, there we go. >> And the more you explain that to people, I think they can be much more flexible in their understanding of the fact that, you know, you're going to be paying for this for another two and a half years. >> Yeah. >> Before you get released. So, thanks for everything you guys have done in your pre-planning. >> Thank Thank you for the partnership. >> This is this has been a a process, but we've all fought the good fight together. All right. Um, thanks Brian. Any more discussion or I would take a motion to adjurnn. >> Motion to adjurnn. >> Second. >> All those in favor? I. >> Those opposed adjourned.