Welcome to the Mountain City Council. It's uh Tuesday, April 14, 6 o'clock. Can we rise for the pledge of allegiance? >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. All right, we got our agenda. Is there any amendments? >> I have two very slight uh amendments to the consent agenda. One is to item 6C. The um music in the park is removing a date in June. And then 6H, the the packet item is correct, but the number in the title is should be $4,121.34. um which is the the the 61692 is from the previous meeting. So >> that's a significant change. >> Yeah. >> But but it's uh correct in the packet. So the actual item is in there. >> 4 what? >> $4,121.34. >> All right. Can I get a motion to adopt the agenda with those changes? >> We have a motion to adopt the agenda with the stated changes. >> Right. Got a motion. Can I get a second? >> Second. >> Any discussion? All those in favor, please say I. >> I. >> I. >> All right. Those opposed. >> All right. Number four, we got public comments. If uh anybody wants to come up, give you uh three minutes to tell us what you want to tell us. All right. Hey. >> Hi. My name is Nick Peterson, SEN. I grew up here in Mound. I went to Shirley Hills Grand View in the high school. And I come up today because this town and this school district instilled my love for civics in our country. Last year I went to the presidential inauguration. I slept outside for 13 hours to be first in line. And just by fate when I was inside Capital One Arena. The president and the first lady were four rows ahead of me. I shouted from the bottom of my heart, "We love you, Mr. President." They both pointed, smiled, and waved right at me. I pointed back. It was caught on TV. Millions of people have seen it around the world over the last 18 months. I proved it to the White House that they have validated it twice and now I'm the first American in history to prove a presidentto citizen interaction so hard the White House through civics has validated it twice. I got two letters from the president and I wanted to come and let you guys know. I've documented it all on my own website. We love youmrpresident.com showing the importance of civics today. People forget, you know, there's a difference between civics and politics. I had no idea those five words are now in the national archives. So now our city and the school district in its own way are being uh seen. I just got word through my um site hoster. We have now been seen in every single continent on Earth. All because I dare to love America out loud and I proved it so hard the White House agreed. And then I also have a write up too to if it'd be okay to pass you guys to show. I wanted to let the city know on the record that someone just went out and showed love to America and now the city is being read about all over the world. >> Cool. >> Thank you. >> You want me to pass out? >> I can hand them. >> Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you guys. >> Do you want to bring that around? >> Bring Do you guys want to do a picture with it or not or um Do you want to just bring it around and then we'll kind of look at it quick? I'll get a p I'll get a picture. You probably have several of them, but Oh, yeah. >> Wow. >> I can't believe it. >> Thanks for putting us on the map. >> Yeah, absolutely. So, that's why I figured I wanted to come and let you guys know that we are being read about all over the world. All because I dared to go out and stand up for what I believe in. >> Cool. >> That's what it takes. Thank you. Thank you guys. >> All right. Thanks. Have a good night. >> All right. Do we have anybody else that wants to come up? >> All right. Can you give us You can put it down and give it give us your name and address. >> Nick is my youngest son and he's the tallest in our family. My name is Janet Peterson and I live at 3136 Tuxedo Boulevard, Mount of course. Um, I had something happen last year that I wonder if it's something I can bring here. I noticed the neighbor behind us had put up a beautiful new wood fence. Uh, his other one was starting to fall down. We have a chainlink fence. We've been there 37 years and he was there before us. But the old fence, his old wooden fence was not taken down. his new one went up just when I wasn't looking on the other side of it. So, between us is this fence that's falling apart. So, I just don't know where you talk to somebody to see about making um a change in building code that an old fence should come down before you cover it with a new fence to, you know, in front of a neighbor's property. >> So, is the old fence facing your property? >> It Here's our chainling fence. Here's his fence. It's old and falling apart and his beautiful new fence is on the other side. It's between it's she can >> So, it's just going to get worse over the years, >> right? >> Have you talked to anybody yet? >> No, I just called the city um and asked them last fall if there was anything in the codes about that about and they said no. They researched it. There was nothing in the codes about taking your old fence down and covering it up with a new fence. you know, when it's looking at someone else's property. So, >> any other any questions? >> We'll have to do about that a little bit. Maybe we can >> That's a new one for us, I guess. >> Yeah. Isn't that funny? Yeah. And I like my neighbors. I haven't said a word to him. I've not I've not mentioned it to him. >> Yeah. >> You know, >> um so thank you for hearing me. >> Yeah. I appreciate that. >> Thank you. >> All right. Anybody else? >> All right, hearing none. Going to number five presentations. We got Orno Police Department with the March 2026 activity report. >> Good evening, city council. My name is Officer Rays. I'm with the Orno Police Department here in uh um Sergeant Spencer's position here because he is out of office. So, um wanted to give you some updates here overall for the police department. So, right now we are in the chief's interview process. Uh we have two finalists going to a final interview this week. Um the Our Lady of the Lake kids graduate their dear school as well coming up here. Um we've had one overweight vehicle that was cited in the city of Mound and we also wanted to encourage as far as any public works or anybody calling in any other overweight trucks as well. Um the seasonal weight restrictions will be ending here April 16th. Couple days as far as that goes, but uh would love the help there. Um, we actually just went through our two-day use of forest training as well this last week. So, we just went through our annual refresher there, which we have two twice a year. Um, and then also as far as a just kind of notice on the severe weather week that's coming up here with the sirens will be set off here at some point. So, that's kind of the more major updates from us. And then I just wanted to go over as far as the uh crime summary report from March 1st to the 31st here. So going down through the categories here, the first category we have is an aggravated assault. Um domestic strangulation, we had one report of that. We had a report of essentially open burning permit. Um as far as violation, we had a domestic assault um violation order for protection and solicit child to engage in sexual conduct. as far as report there. We had one that was a burglary breaking and entering uh third degree report. So that was one report there. We had a juvenile curfew loitering >> uh violation as well. We had two reports of damage to property. We had driving under the influence. Here we had six. As far as uh drug narcotic violations here, we had two. As far as domestic assault misdemeanor um fear, basically we had two reports of that this month. We had an open bottle violation and then we had 132 um non-reportable vehicle essentially um reports as well. So that is the gist. We have a couple more here. So, we did have one as far as a theft um with one report of theft. We had one report of crim criminal sexual conduct in the third degree. We had a simple assault disorderly. We had three reports of that. We did have as far as two theft and motor vehicle reports and then we did have one as far as weapon law violations as well. So, that is the uh breakdown on the monthly reports. >> All right. >> Any questions? Any questions for me? >> I don't know if you can disclose this, but are either of your candidates um from in-house, you know, from within the department or are they out of the juris? >> I don't know if I can speak on it. Um but as of right now, both are external. >> Okay. >> Right now. Yeah. >> Thanks. >> So, yep. >> Um question on the overweight trucks. >> Yes. >> Like if you want people to like call on that like what what type what type of trucks are we talking about? >> Yeah. So, as far as any overweight, so essentially if you see um large scale as far as semis, hauling materials, anything that's heavy, as far as bricks or lumber, etc. Um you think about as far as a tandem, Tridom, uh essentially you're going to see multiple multiple wheels as far as that semi-trail and truck. And we've had quite a bit as far as over, you know, the season here in all cities. Um but uh essentially having public works call in if they notice it as they're out and about, citizens seeing them because certainly obviously it's hard to be able to catch all of them in the act. Um but we've had quite a bit of people calling and reporting and we we do catch them in the act and so obviously finding them and and citing them for that that obviously offense. >> Thank you. >> Wonderful. Thank you. >> All right. Thank you guys. Appreciate it. Have a good evening. >> All right. We got our consent agenda. All right, Council Lano is out, so someone else going to have to read all these. >> I can read it. >> All right. >> Uh, consent agenda A, minutes of the May 10th, 2026 city council regular meeting. B, approve resolution number 2623, approving the liquor liquor store license. Oh, just the liquor license for Loi restaurant. C. Approve resolution number 2624 approving permits for 2026 Music in the Park down at Surfside. Uh, waving fees due to public purpose of gathering. D. Approve resolution 2625 approving permit number for 2026 Fire Department relief association fish fry June 6, 2026. E. Approve resolution 2626 approving the permit for seasonal use of city property for the Mound Farmers Market on starting on May 23rd going through October 10th. F. Approve 2026 planning commission work plan and staff project. G. Approve resolution 2627 approving the 26 through 29 residential waste reduction and recycling grant agreement with Henipin County and H pay request number two in the amount of uh I don't know if I wrote correctly 412080 >> 4121.34 >> 4121 in the amount of 412134 to Minger construction for water Treatment infrastructure improvements phase 2 PW25-12. >> All right, we got our consent agenda. Does anybody want to talk about those? >> No. >> All right, hearing none. Can I get a motion to approve the consent agenda? >> Motion to approve. >> Second. >> And I got a second. All right. Any discussion? Roll call, please. >> Council member Heric. >> I. >> Council member Mcinaney. >> I. >> Council member Pew. >> Hi. Mayor Holt. >> I All right. All that passes. All right. Number seven, we got public hearings planning commission recommendation planning case number 2601. >> Let's try it. Look at that. Beautiful thing. >> It worked. >> I'm just excited. >> Yeah. Okay. >> Did it work at the planning meeting? >> It did. I was so excited >> pretty well. >> Yeah, I thought it was work. The only thing is the the laser pointer, but that's okay. I'll practice my mouse skills. All right. Good evening. Uh I'm Rita Trap, the city's planner. Uh before you this evening is a request for a conditional use permit for a water treatment plant. Uh this is was submitted by Bolton Mink on behalf of the city of Mound. Um as you probably are aware, the property is located north of Bartlett Boulevard adjacent to Sorbbo Park. um access is provided from an existing easement to Evergreen Road. Um one thing I want to note and you'll see it in the note on this picture is that the diagrams um in order to get it on a sheet have been rotated. So this is the one that's facing north, but everything else from this on is going to rotate. Um and so part will be to the right, north is to the right. So it's a little um makes sense for the drawing, but it is a little bit odd in your brain um to realize now north is to your right. Um so that's kind of the orientation we will have. Um the proposed project is the water treatment plant for the city of Mound. It also includes space for city utility vehicles. Um and as you can see from this diagram, there is a driveway that extends to Evergreen Road um to provide access uh and there's a little bit of turnaround space um for that as well. The approve the request is for a conditional use permit. uh essential service buildings such as a water treatment facility are considered uh essential service building in all districts. So no matter what district it would have been in, this is what uh the city of Mount has done um intentionally to make sure that people have an opportunity to review and provide comment on these types of facilities. The project does not require any additional variances, easements, alterations. Um and so it really is about making sure the use fits on the site. Um and if there are any concerns, um that we address those. The property is an interior lot located behind Sorbo Park. It is adjacent to the school district property um that has some trail some you know informal trails in it. Um as I saw some people biking when I went there the other day. Um the property is undeveloped. Adjacent properties are primarily residential uses around it. Um except for the park and the school district property that I noted. Um another existing condition that I think is important if you hopefully you've had a chance to go out there. There is topography change from Evergreen Road up to where the actual water treatment facility is. Um that just comes into play primarily related to the water filtration basin and the playground because there is actually a slope up. Um and so those are some of the things that we took into consideration when discussing how to approach that issue. Um as I've already said, access is from a dedicated ride ofway um from the north side of the property to Evergreen Road on the south side of Sorbbo Park. Um, while there is a potential other location for this since you are crossing city property, this makes the most sense from the standpoint of that leaves the green space between the playground and the water tower for open space for children that might use the park. So, it's nice that this is tucked in south of the playground. U, the width of the driveway was designed to meet fire department regulations. Um, and then the the turnaround area is located closer to the water treatment plant. Um, that they might need that part of it. uh essential service buildings are not required to meet lot requirements though we did provide a summary of all of those. You can see generally um the facility is located uh quite a bit of different distance from each of the different property lines. The closest one uh is the west property line at 50 ft and that's the school district property. So there's not a residential property located in that vicinity. Uh we do know from the public comments that we had that there is some concern about the building height. Um the building height is designed to be less than 35 feet which is the R1 district maximum. Um the garage height in particular was identified and the uh the p the public person is here so they can provide their own comment. My understanding from the letter um that a lot of it has to do with the fact that originally this was only talked about as a water treatment facility and now we've added the utility function as well and that the garage um kind of has a big mass to it. Um but the height of the garage is in is needed in order to ensure that it can accommodate um these city utility vehicles and the height and uh the rollup for the door and all of those elements. So it is still under the 35 ft and in fact the doorway for the utility is not the tallest or the part of the building for the utility is not the tallest part of the building. Um but it is the part of the building that's on kind of the driveway side and the part of the building you'll see more so from um the park. Um the exterior of the building is proposed to be brick. Um and these are just some examples that were included in the submitt of what the building would look like. Impervious surface. Um this is proposed to be under 30% which is the maximum for our one district and the storm water treatment was designed to meet Minihaha Creek wershed district requirements. Uh as I had referenced, there is a filtration basin uh that is proposed um on the site. It's located in this vicinity. Um and the playground is located here. And so there has been conversation about whether uh a fence should be added between the two to make sure um that those that are exploring the site um don't uh aren't affected by the water filtration basin. It is important to note that the water is there for rain events, not there all of the time. It's not a pond that sits. Um it's one of those things that when a storm event would happen, then there will be rain that will fill up the pond. It's about 4 feet deep at its maximum. Um and then the length of time that it stays is dependent upon the amount of rain that we get. So um and as I said, there's also if you were out on the site, there is a topography difference. So if you're in the playground at the playground, then there's a retaining well, then there's a hill, and then on top of the hill will be the filtration basin. Um, but the planning commission did feel like something should be done. Maybe not all the way around, but enough to discourage going up to that vicinity. So, that's one of the conditions that is added for your consideration this evening. Um, screening, if you were out on the site, a lot of the landscaping that was there has been removed. Um, oh, I didn't change that. Sorry. Matt called me and said I didn't get quite something quite right. So, the project for the water trunk project is happening now, not completed. Um, but there was work that was done um to fix the site um to get the site ready. And so if you were out there, there are trees in the vicinity of where this facility would go that were already removed in anticipation of kind of the bounds of where the building would be. Um, and so the pro proposed project, there is a landscaping plan that has been done. There will be more evolution similar to all the landscaping plans that we typically um work with on a site where there's a landscaping plan and we continue to work back and forth on how to kind of put it together. Uh new 28 new trees are proposed evergreen trees on the sides abudding the residential properties. From the conversation with the planning commission, there was a note that um and from the public comment that we received that we should be looking all the way around the building to make sure that there's screening on all sides. So, for example, if something happened on the school district property, there's still some screening um that would happen. So, those adjustments can be made um as part of the continuing process for the site plan. Uh there aren't specific requirements for landscaping in the code. So, this is just a kind of a back and forth to create the best site plan that we can. Um, I do want to note that there are some limitations because if we have underground utilities, we don't want to have trees over them because either we'll have to at some point in the future they could harm our underground utilities or we might have to take them out anyway. Um, and so there are some areas where screening might be desired but is not advisable because of utility locations. So, for example, um, south I still have my mouse. So, I know that there's interest in this location and on this side of the building, but there are some utility lines. We might be able to add a few more um but we won't be able to totally screen those locations um because of the locations of the utility lines that are coming out in here. It's actually a little bit farther but it's underway. Um I know other concerns. Um so other potential impacts uh in terms of vehicle trips, there's not going to be a lot of uh people on the site. There's probably one worker on site on any given day. Um obviously just other than taking care of utility vehicles um there was some discussion at the planning commission about noise. Um this particular facility is being proposed to be um energized through not through the same kind of generator that is being used at the water at the water filtration building. Um and so this one should not be noisy which is the biggest concern that was raised. Um, and so the generator would only be used primarily for power failures or exercise, so it's not going to be a big deal. Um, and then lighting is still under development, which again is very similar to most of our projects where lighting comes in. Um, given the distance to other residential, it should be not too impactful, but I know there's a concern. This has been a wildlife area because it has been full. And so, how do we minimize and provide security at the same time? So those are all concerns that have been raised and documented and things that um we can think about. We did distribute this in our normal normal and customary way. Um the only comment that we received was from MCS who said they have no comments otherwise there were no technical comments received. Um we did have the one neighbor who we amended in the planning commission the comments. Um and they also um presented additional questions at the meeting and they're here tonight. So the official public hearing is tonight. So, you may hear from him and he can provide additional. Hopefully, I've done a generally good job of contextualizing, but he may have other points to make. Um, I walked through all of these as I went since I knew what those comments were. Um, planning commission discussion. Generally, they kind of focused on four areas. Um, landscaping, lighting, making sure that we make adjustments to address the concerns that we've heard, trying to identify more areas for trees and screening, trying to make sure the lighting does not impact. Um there was a question raised about whether or not there would be a possibility of um making the connecting the two buildings so that the diesel generator that currently is making noise could be eliminated and that that's something that we because the planning commission meeting was last week we don't have an answer for. Um so we just included a condition that that would be looked at to see if that's even feasible. Um because it's understandable if noise is bothering the surrounding neighbors that if we could adjust it because of this that would be great. Um and then the there were concerns about the filtration basin um and putting fencing. So again, those are additional conditions that were included in the resolution. Um you may or may not have the the same concerns. So those are certainly areas of discussion. As I've referenced, this is a public hearing. Um and so the request this evening is to hold the public hearing. Obviously discussing the request given that staff and the planning commission did recommend approval. There is a resolution in your packet. It did incorporate the conditions that the planning commission recommended uh in them in addition to the kind of the standard ones that staff knew that we should include for a conditional use permit. Um city engineer is here. He can answer any technical information um since he's more an expert in that area, but I can certainly answer questions on the planning side if there are questions for me. >> Does anybody have any questions for Rita? Well, regarding the filtration system, I'm sure you all looked at trying to relocate this not so close to the playground. >> Well, I asked the question initially and he said that was the best location because of the way that the land is. Yeah. >> It wasn't, you know, it's one of those one of those things >> you just look at all that land. It's like, oh, let's just put it right behind the playground. >> Yeah. But again, once I I I don't know if you were out at the site, once I went to the site and I saw the topography difference, it's like and we have lots of lakes around here and we have a pond half a block up the street on the other side that has nothing around it. So >> it's I'm not minimizing it to but you know it's like >> well the kids do historically use those woods to really >> right that's why the fence could make sense. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So there's no possibility to move that thing sorry south closer to the build not close to the building but >> that would be a great discussion for the city engineer >> even 20 ft I mean because according to this drawing it looks like it's awful close to that playground and it would be nice to plant >> plants between yeah like we did well >> I I put up we can have that he can come up so he can give you because I obviously was not involved in that design >> and was there any discussion about replacing some I mean what we call the trees that were along the property line adjacent to the neighbor across from the playground. It was kind of a >> up in this vicinity. They did put up a fence if you were out there. >> Yes, I saw that. >> Um but again, that is a discussion we haven't had about trees. It's it's a little tight given the the driveway part of it. >> Um but certainly something that could be discussed. >> Right. These were pine trees, I believe. >> Yeah. But that's right over the road. Yeah. >> Right. Anyway, >> Yep. All All like >> how how tall is the retaining wall? >> The retaining wall that's there today. >> No, that's going to be there in between the pond and the >> Well, there's already at the ground level. Then there's a retaining wall and then there's a hill and then it's a filtration basin. >> Oh, you're okay. The one that's already there. >> Yeah. And it's not It's what is it? Three courses high. So, I don't know. It's like >> two and a half feet. But then there's a hill over it. >> Yeah. And then it'd be pond up there. >> Like I couldn't stand in the playground and see that there's going to be a pond there. But I understand kids go all kinds of places. So not minimizing. >> Those are discussions. >> Park for kids. >> I'm sorry. >> What' you say? >> I said it's been a park where the kids really explore. >> Well, for sure. You know, >> if you have all those woods there. >> Yeah, >> they would. I mean, even when I drove through on the school district property, I could see kids on bikes in the in the property. So >> my kid built a lot of those. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Back in the day >> he would go over there with a hoe >> right now. >> Yeah. I mean the good news I mean if there is good news is it's a filtration basin not a pond. So that means it's when a storm event happens that things will go into it and it's not going to be standing water all of the time. But I totally understand. That's why we started the conversation about the fence when we started our planning report and it's just continued trying to figure out the best way of addressing it. >> So, it's a good discussion item for all of you of how you think >> it should be handled. >> Okay. >> Oh, I didn't do a picture though. We did discuss. Sorry, I have it on the extra. There was um Matt sent over not the retaining wall part, but the part of the fence of like >> No, I know. I that's why I wanted to clarify the fence that could be kind of how a fence could look is that kind of black galvanized um just not a chain link is what we're thinking. The biggest thing is probably want something a little nicer than just a chain link fence around it. >> So >> cool. Any other questions for Rita? >> Do we want to hear from our engineer first or do we want to hear from the public? Anybody care? All right, let's do the public comment. All right, I'm opening the public hearing if anybody wants to come up and give us your opinion. Give you three minutes. Okay, can you give us your name and address? >> Yes. Hello everybody. Um, my name is Johan Shama. I reside at 6039 Beachwood Road. Um, thanks for your time. Thanks for the presentation, Rita. Um so one of my first um uh comment and opposition to this project project is its size. I remember clearly being in front of this um city council when I was told that when we were told citizens that it was going to be a filtration station, not a utility/filtration station. And it seems like those were the specifications that were given for the the plans that we're seeing right now. So my first concern is how many million dollars does that add up to the cost? because that that's not free. That the whole thing is like half of the project is the is the utility building. And as citizens, we didn't sign for a 30 million project, $30 million project when already we're shortened on money. It's going to it's already the the urgency is to be able to have um manganesees taken out of our water, not to have a fancy utility stuff. Plus, if we have the utility, >> would you mind putting the the visual of the building, please, Rita? >> Yep. I was that one or >> Yeah, that's perfect. Yeah. Yeah. So, the fact that there's a utility utility um garage means that there's an office on the side. So, that's that adds up to the cost, not just the garage, but it adds up also to the office that's adjacent to the building. So, that's my first contention to that stuff. For furthermore, um could you put the the view from the top, please? >> Thank you. Um, since there's a garage, there needs to be a huge driveway. That adds up to the cost. And I remember sitting in front of this committee or this city council, sorry, when it was said it was going to be a single lane, a path. Now, it's a it's a road. It's a two-lane road. So, that adds up to the cost, and that's a big portion of the $30 million of that project. That's my first contention. Um, my second contention is the tree buffering. And I'm sorry, but I disagree with Rita. Uh, do you mind showing the slide that you showed at the at the um planning commission? You >> mean the one that had like the lines on? >> Yes. Yes. The one that had the lines of dig up. Thank you. So um we need more tree buffering for that project especially um on the west side. So the one that adjacent to the the school um plot um as Yeah. Thank you, Rita. >> So if you can scroll um >> Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. >> I went a little far. >> Yeah. Yeah. So the property line is there and the blue I guess is where pipes and stuff are going through. But you see there's a big clearing between those trees. So PL trees could be planted. Thank you. In this area because we can see the the we can see the clearing from the road from West Edge West which is on the west side of the the road that's after the the the school district as well as um and I know it's maybe a little tight next to the filtration basin. So from your neighbor we won't see the the the the plant that that kind of hides it more. So I think I think there is there is a spot for that. So that's my second intention to that uh to that project. Um then I have a question regarding the noise. So um I forgot to ask um u during the city uh planning commission the noise is there going to be because we have a lift station in mound just at the border on west edge at the border with uh mound and miniista and that field and that pumping station is atrociously noisy. It there's a there's a fan that goes on 24/7 and that's that's just atrocious. I lived in the city and my apartment was for seven years by a fan and when the when the fan from the from the restaurant was turning off we could feel like our stress was just relieved. So I'm wondering is there going to be a noise with that station apart from when there's the when the when the electrical sorry when the gas generator um just is is used is there going to be a noise like a fan? >> I don't know but that's a question once you finish your comments. >> Okay. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. So that's my my second question. Yeah. So the question the other questions for the noise I was very satisfied with the uh considering the generator I was very satisfied with the the answer that was provided. And uh my last contention is with the light pollution. I I know we're all gangable but leaving our porch light on at night uh thinking it will deter thieves when it doesn't do anything. What would deter more is like a light a motion detector that surprises people and scares them away more than having a light on and especially that we are in a city with increasingly light pollution that's not good for us our body that's not good for the animals and I know we have an we have couple of owls that have been moved from where they were there to our neighbors um and owls need darkness in in order to be able to hunt as well as other animals so Even just having lights at night to me is is kind of crazy. We should have a motion detector rather than having light 24/7 going on or sorry at night. I can understand maybe in the winter time, you know, when people are still going in and out maybe until 5:00 p.m. and then done, but at all all the time that's kind of crazy. Um and uh yes, my I have a question for you guys. So concerning the the landscaping, what is your power regarding uh the landscaping change that would be done? Let's say that um you follow you are in agreement with needing more trees on the two zones that I was pointing. What would be um the way that you're going to follow up on that project to make sure that that's implemented? Well, if we pass it and we say that has to be in there, we'll they'll make sure it gets >> Okay. Okay. That's how it works. Thanks. Thanks. Okay. >> So, I don't know if you have questions. We want to stay here or >> That's all. Thanks. >> Thanks. I appreciate your help and your time. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> All right. Anybody else? All right. I'm going to close a public comment. All right. Do you guys want to come up? Do you have anything to say just off the top or do you want us to ask you questions right away? >> Uh why don't >> I'll I'll start with the filtration basin piece of it. >> Yeah, >> if you could jump to that that one will work. Um so we needed to site the basin to catch as much water as possible so that we could treat as much water as possible. And so since everything else is kind of up on top of the hill, our best opportunity to catch it without really getting into the park space was this space here. And um and so that's where we can meet 90% of the wershed's goals. We have to do some other um rate control items as well. We're still working out if that's if a little bit of that's going to be done on the opposite side of Evergreen Road. But otherwise, we have an opportunity with the to redo the surface of the basketball court and make that um be able to hold some water and kind of hide it. Uh so that that's why we picked that location just to as backup for that. Um and I had I'd run some numbers on how long you'd see any water within the basin depending on certain rain events. So, in a 2-year storm, which I think is like a 2 and a half year event, there'll be water visible in the basin for about 16 hours and then it's completely gone. And so, some of that's going to be where there's only a couple inches in it. Um, and then in the hundredyear storm, did I say was it about I think it was 26 hours? So, just over a day. >> Yeah, >> 26. >> Yeah. So, just over a day. So, that um and so that some of the background there. So, we but we did discuss, you know, potentials for fences. I think the black um powder coated fence if we were to do something would make the most sense, but we hadn't uh nailed all that down yet. >> Okay. >> For those listening who maybe don't understand this whole why we have to add runoff and filtration basins, can you explain from all the hard cover that we're adding for this? That's I'm assuming the reason this has to be added. >> Yes. Uh yeah because uh one because of site size and then because of uh Minhaha Creek wershed district regulations that they we don't want to increase flow to anything downstream as much as we can and then we want to catch and treat as much runoff that may have pollutants in it and so that's part that's why we need to put in a a basin at all. Um, we originally were hoping that we would have would do an infiltration basin so that the water could just soak into the ground, but as once we landed on where the site where the plant and everything itself was, we had to shift it a little bit. And then this site, this portion of it has too much clay soil. So, we had to go to infiltration. So, there's some drain tile and stuff in there that actually helps get the water out a little quicker as well. I don't know if that covered it. There's a lot more technical pieces of it, but I asked usually have to ask for help on those, too. >> Thank you. >> Can you explain how big the road is? >> How wide it is? Yeah. >> Uh, I believe it's 26 ft wide. So, that's to meet the uh fire fire department regulations. So, that um if there's an emergency in there, that's what they require. >> That's the minimum. >> Yep. >> So, what what is Evergreen? How a normal road? What is that? Uh our our standard road is 28 off the top of my head. I don't know. Evergreen might be a little wider. Some of them go to 32. >> Yeah. Our typical streets in mount are most of them are 28 feet from the back of the curb to the back to the back on the uh the other well around the corner. I think there's a light that's always on over there. I remember right. >> There is. >> Yeah. >> I mean, obviously >> safety or Can you explain why we need a light all the time? >> Deci decisions made before our time, but a lot of it is just security to keep an eye on things. It's easier to see if someone's up there >> maybe doing something they they shouldn't be. Um, and then as well if the say for an emergency, if somebody needs a pull up that they don't have to fumble out of their car in the dark and try to figure out what's going on, find their keys to get into the building, >> right? >> So, we could regulate maybe the uh the level of light pollution, per se. >> Yeah, that's >> And maybe focus it down instead of >> all over the place. >> Yep. Yeah, we could work on the lighting plan. kind of hearing some of those concerns and then um and we'll talk through security and those pieces and then if do probably as much as possible on motion security or motion sensor type lights. >> Yeah. >> Um and then the noise uh is it going to be noisy at all? >> Not that I'm aware of. Typically the what is brought up is the generator. So that's what we kind of dug into a little bit more. the generator, the gas generator that'll be used on site. They um it's a hospital grade generator. So, basically, it uses a muffler on it that lowers the noise to the same level as what a car driving down the street would be. And and it's really not going to be used very often except during an emergency or like once a month. They'll exercise it just to make sure everything's firing and lubed up. >> Okay. So, just a constant dayto-day. It's not going to be >> No, you loud or anything. >> Yeah, we barely ever noticed that. Um, no, there's there's some plants um water treatment plant I think in Norwood that's basically right across the street from a bunch of houses and um no complaints from that one that I know of. >> Yeah. And I I live right around the corner. I mean, I walk around there all the time, but I I don't ever remember it being loud personally. I I mean, I can't hear it from my house. I don't know. I guess I just didn't think about it while I'm walking by it. So, >> well, in an emergency, we have other gener generators in the neighborhood. I know John has one next door to me, and it's they're loud. I mean, but those are just gas generators that people are using on their homes, >> but I'm saying like the current one that the well that we have right now. >> I mean, I before tonight, I didn't even think of >> that even making a sound at all. So, >> the one there, >> yeah, >> man, I I'll I'll just jump in to mention um just my prior experience. You mentioned Norwood. This was the water plant we built in Cologne and that's in people's backyards and right >> they never heard a thing. It's it's a giant sand filter inside. There's no >> it's not treating waste water like the the one out west. So it's >> I mean this is closer I think even than what we're talking about. And there's nearly no buffer. And quite honestly, I think people were more excited to have that because it was a big quiet building versus neighbors or something behind or a road for that matter. But just >> when was that built? >> 2016 to 17 we built that. >> Since you're talking, can you explain the size of the building and why we need what we need there? >> Well, we do need offices um because there is office work to be done. So there's somebody's going to need to be there every day to do testing and generally they'll need a place to do that. So um I mean for the size of the actual storage area, I mean I think there's two ways to look at it. One of them is that it's just nice to be able to have pull into a garage, right? I mean, if people are going to be working in there, we'd prefer that they would be able to park. And then, um, I would argue that it's not superfluous in that, um, assuming we could probably go bigger. Um, this is, I think, pretty commensurate with the size of the building. And from a an economy standpoint, if you were going to just go and build a garage that large on a brand new site, it's going to cost you a heck of a lot more than if you're doing it subsequent to this project. So, um, the PFA does have standards. If we wanted to make it, you know, 3/4 garage and a little water plant, they would say that's not why we're loaning you the money, >> right? >> So, we are beholden to their I mean, we could borrow it elsewhere, but we're going to utilize the PFA assuming the council moves forward for some of this. >> So, in this case, I mean, I we'd have to talk about whether it could be I mean, it's not bid yet. We haven't it's been designed for the most part, but it could be probably downsized, but I would say out of I don't know the number off hand, Matt, but of the $40 million total project, that's going to be the smallest part. It's just the square of this. It's not a maintenance bay. It's not a spot for there's not going to be a lift in the ground to be able to put trucks on it. It's generally just storage. there'll probably be a corner mounted heat unit just so that it's not cold in the winter, but it's it's certainly not over the top. >> Um, >> and then from a staff perspective, I think we would mostly just argue that like I said, you don't get a lot of opportunities as a city to do something like that. So, if you can, this is a good time for it just because it's going to be a little addition to a much larger project versus tearing down a larger building and then meeting new codes and things and or acquiring land. We just don't have a lot. Um, which is we were just talking today like this is where it is because the other alternative was our other water tower where it's surrounded by houses, you know. So, >> uh, some of it's opportunity, some of it is necessity. Um, if if the council wants, I'm sure we could dive into where the engineering, uh, has come to like with with the cost breakdowns of the of this. I I don't know how granular you it is. >> Yeah, I don't have that those numbers. >> Um, the but the vast majority of this is coming from the actual filtration system. >> Yeah. >> So, would we gain any storage? I know we're doing maintenance on the other pumping stations and all this other stuff. Do we have equipment or anything associated with the water treatment process that we would be able to store there if we need to rather than storing it over at the public works building? >> Yeah. So, the one of the the benefits of this is that they'll be kind of able to separate some of the the water utility items from like sanitary sewer and the other public works pieces over there. >> Okay. U they'll be able to store addition um some there's going to be a lot of new valves and fittings that they're going to need for backup for >> for the the building itself. Um >> Okay. >> Yeah. And some of the depth of it is just so that they can put racks and things like that to to store those things in there. Um yeah. So there's efficiency from that perspective as well. And then Ryan could speak to it more, but I I know u with the two garages that the city has now, there's a lot with basically Jenga that's played between the seasons of moving things around and trying to stack things in there and um it this would help with that as well. >> Good. >> I'm Ryan Preach, public works director. Um yeah, we do play a lot of offseason, trade in, trade out. We use the shop on the island as offseason as well as a couple storage containers that we have in the upper lots uh the shop at Lynwood and also one down the lower lot at the shop at Lynwood. So it is a lot of in and out of containers. If you need something, you might spend an hour digging it out if it's, you know, an emergency and it's buried. Um, we try to be as smart as possible when we put things away and do offseason store, you know, storage, but things come up and then you're digging. So, this is going to give us an opportunity to spread out a little bit, put the right things in the right places so they're accessible. And like he said, the water trucks will be stored out of there and those those water guys will be working out of there. So, um, as far as traffic for that, you're talking three trucks maybe for starting and leaving for the day. One guy working there at least threequarters of the day. >> And do we have a, lack of a better term, a room or facility where they'll be able to do their testing or will that just be any? >> Yep. All that is laid out in the there's a testing room, there's some small storage, there's chemical rooms. Everything's been laid out through >> and that's why there's offices there. Those have to be done on site. >> So, we're using the term office loosely then. >> Yeah. I mean, there is an office for the utility guys. There's a >> with water and all that fun stuff in there. Okay. >> All right. Thanks. >> Thank you. >> All right. Does council have any other questions for our engineer? I just want to say really quick, um, I've taken care of with other volunteers Sorbo Park and maintaining it through the years. It's been at least 10 years, I guess. Um, I still am very concerned. I I'm not a big fan of these filtration ponds, but I would like to see that thing moved further away from the, you know, the playground. It is used quite a bit by young boys, especially. We have a lot of those in the neighborhood for whatever reason. Um, I I don't really believe personally that these things do a lot of good. Um, I don't really fully understand why we can't put that thing somewhere else or why we even have to have it, but at the end of the day, I know we're required to. So, um, it just seems like we could find a better location than right there next to the playground >> because I think you're going to have a lot of parents that are going to object to that once it gets in. So, what did you think about his comment that >> it doesn't fill up a lot? >> Well, I mean, knowing the pro topography over there, that's a burn going up and then we're going to create a hole to keep it from going where it's not going to run down that hill other than what's on the hill. Everything else will go back towards the new building. So the retention pond is just if if we get a lot of rain, >> it'll fill up for a >> big hole that I mean >> and then it kind of drains out and you you'll kind of like the one over by Surfside. >> Yeah. Right. >> You know, there's little rocks or whatever in there. >> It's a nightmare to maintain. >> It looks nice when it's really trimmed down low. >> The nice thing and then mow it over. >> The nice The nice thing with this one though is none of us are going to see it >> unless you're going up there. >> Well, we have a lot of that perk that will see it. So, >> I mean, you're gonna you're gonna have to look up and >> they're kids. Yeah. >> Get at it. >> They're still citizens. >> You're not Nobody's going to be driving up that road >> technically. >> I I think the kids will find it as new fun to act. >> I I agree and that's a concern, but I just I don't know. >> I mean, seems like planning commission put a fence requirement in this. >> So, if we just, you know, keep that. >> I don't know. I mean, I have kids >> voicing my opinion. I I just think it's an unnecessary thing that we're required to do and I get it but um it doesn't it's just ugly and it's in a bad spot but not much I can do about it at this point. >> Excuse me. Do you think >> No, it's public comments done. Sorry. >> It was on this topic. >> Okay. So, any other comments >> and I would like to see more trees put in, but I think we're now up to to 28. We removed quite a few trees. >> Well, like you I I would like to see as many trees as possible replaced. >> Even if they're small. Yeah. Even if they're small saplings or whatever, you know, 4 foot tall >> hardwoods >> be nice. >> Just as a to respond to that. Um at this point, right, we haven't bid this project out. This, you know, we're just talking about land approval. So, that's the type of thing that when it comes time to if we're picking a um a contractor and we're really building this thing, then that's the type of thing we would add on there. And I think you'll have plenty of opportunity hopefully to do that. >> And that's probably been the biggest comment I've gotten from neighbors in the area because I do live in the area as well. Um is, oh my gosh, did you see all the trees they cut down? Mhm. >> So, if we can find budget to allow us to replant hardwoods that may not be their, you know, full potential for 20 to 30 years, that's fine. I mean, they're low cost at that point. And I'm sure we can probably get some help from Three Rivers. I know they have some sort of source that they get their trees and stuff from. >> They have a nursery >> DNR. >> Yeah. I mean, it's just something that would be nice that we could be able to say, "Yes, we planted, you know, 40 new hardwoods up there, you know, and eventually it will grow back." >> And if we can do something along this road, that would be nice as well, because I know the neighbor put a fence in, but the same thing with, you know, are we going to have to put a fence up between the playground and the and the road? >> Good. I mean, it's not like a busy road. I understand it's going to be used, you know, time or two today. >> But once again, we have young >> driveway >> playing over there. So, >> well then hopefully public horse don't hit them. >> It's not I don't know. Um >> I kind of agree that that it sounds like there won't be a whole lot of activity in that area. Maybe you driving up one or two people. So I I I I to me it doesn't seem like there'll be increased you know traffic >> right >> on that road other than >> and they probably drive down that road all the time as it is for Sorco Park and >> other things. >> Yeah. >> All right. That's all I've got. >> Okay. You have any comments? Well, I I guess I would also agree that I'm concerned about safety for the kids around the ponding, but we all know that kids like to play in those woods. We know the behavior. It's like some of our parks are known for certain things and kids go to those parks for those things. So maybe we have to think ahead of it and how can we redirect kids who need to do the forts and the wood to another park. You know, like there's one on the island um that's just, you know, woods and and land. I can't remember the name of it. It's right off of tuxedo. you know, maybe we just need to redirect the kids around their play activities because kids come from all over the city to different parks for certain things that they they're known for. >> So, we just have to figure out how to give them another option. >> So, again, I grew up or I've been there what, nine years. and my kids are I think even last year they're they're over there >> playing in the woods. But um I don't know. I'm not terribly worried about the retention pond because I think if if you know if your numbers are right with the amount of water that's ever going to be in there. I mean, yeah, my kids might go in there and screw around or throw a ball in there. I don't know. But if we put up a fence, I mean, we, you know, to detract, I think that'd be a good idea. But um again, maybe I'm in a bad example, but you know, my kids just go out the front door and go over there, but I'm not going to drive to the island to go in the woods over there. >> Yeah, >> it's definitely a neighborhood park. >> It's Yeah, I mean, that's >> we have enough small children in that area to sustain. >> Well, it's easy access, too, because it's so big. You know, Bartlett there through that uh school property. >> All right. So, we're this uh we got a motion, right? >> Resolution. >> Yep. >> On the screen. 2628. >> 2628. Um >> and again, this is just for the conditional use permit. We can detail all the details later. the in the conditions are the fence and what was the other thing? >> The the fence making sure the lighting tries to be as you know as little as possible for security dealing with the at least exploring the idea of the noise part of it. Um and then the landscaping trying to find more landscaping to address the concerns that we heard. >> So and that you will you know this is the site plan. you'll have a chance as you're working through the actual project to to see how it evolves. >> Yeah, >> it's a little different than a private project. This is your project. So, it'll have to come back to you at some point. >> But again, if we decide to make the building a little smaller, a little bigger, driveway, you know, >> this is Yeah, this is about the use. Is it okay to put a water treatment facility with a utility building >> in this location >> then? Yes. And if it has a retention pond, it has to have a fence, you know, blocking off. Yep. >> And then some trees and low light. Okay. Everybody good? Does anybody want to make a motion? I can make a motion to approve the resolution um a conditional use permit for water treatment plant in the R1 district for property with P 2311724 31-00007. Uh, planning case 26001 PID number 23117 243100077 and then do I read all these? >> Nope. Nope. Sorry, just that part. And then Mr. Mayor, I will add to that's resolution 26-28. >> Okay. All right. >> Asking for approval. >> Okay. So, we got a motion. Can I get a second? >> Second. >> All right. Got a second. Any other discussion? All those in favor, please say I. >> I. >> I. >> Those opposed. >> All right, that passes. All right. Number eight, we don't have any old business. Number nine, we have new business. A approve resolution 20 26-29. Approve cost participation in the West Edge Boulevard Mill overlay project led by the city of Christ. >> Good evening, mayor, members of the council. Matt Bowman, city engineer. Uh, a couple years ago, Minitrista reached out and alerted us that they were looking at doing a milling overlay of uh, West Ed, which is this portion of it, the city of Mount Minista share um, from Cass 15 down about a thousand a little over 1,000 ft to the south where it starts to bend out and then eventually cross the trail there. Um, and so with them owning that half of the road and then more of it, they it made sense for them to lead lead this project. So we we put it within the capital improvement plan for this year and they bid the they bid it on um February 11th and they got six bids. The low bidder was Mueller and Suns and then they provided their cost share portion of it which is um 57,85185 and that's a little lower than the the 67,500 that we had planned for. And so just here tonight to uh approve the the cost share and let them know they can move forward with the project that portion of it and there is a map um somewhere in here too kind of showed where it was. >> Sorry. >> So with that I'll stand for any questions otherwise. >> Yeah. Does council have any questions? >> I do. >> Yeah. Um, we just resurfaced West Edge with the whatever the gravel resurfacing whatever it's called >> County overlay, excuse me, overlay. Yes. Which was done probably maybe two years ago if it's been that long. >> The Yeah. So on the south part of their >> So why didn't we have them do that at the same time? >> We did a a seal coat. So that's just the very top very thin layer um like quarter inch thick of that the rock and it that's what makes it gray. Okay, >> that's a seal coat. So it's a different process. >> What they're going to do up in the red box area and then and some coming around the corner. >> Um that's a mill and overlay. So they're going to take off, you know, an inch and a half, two inches of the existing asphalt, fix a couple things there, and then they'll repave it similar to what they did on the county road here last summer and what we'll be talking about in the next uh item on the agenda. So it Yeah, West Edge is confusing because of where it is and crossing boundaries and and those >> It's right past the the Dakota Trail. >> What's that? >> Right past North of the Dakota Trail. >> Yes. Y >> um >> north of the Dakota Trail. Yeah. >> Is that what that >> Okay. >> North of it. So it's not by your house. It's around the corner. >> No, I know it's further down because that's their apartment. >> Once you're going back up north to uh >> whatever that county road is over there. uh Lynwood Lynwood >> 15. Yep. >> And explain again why we're paying for that because that is definitely on their aside. >> Why we have a cost share. >> So once you come So once you come around the corner and then the road straightens back up and it's going north and south half of it is in the city of Minatrista and the other half is in the city of mound. >> So the upper part Yeah. Okay. So the right side or the east side of the road is owned by mound. >> All right. Do we know when they're going to do this? >> Uh Ryan and I talked a little bit. They they don't want to start until after school ends. So we have some coordination to do with them with all of the other projects going on, but not exactly yet. >> I just want to make sure they don't do it at the same time we're shutting down any other roads. >> Yeah. Um >> why not? That will help with the traffic flow because you know it's all going to divert down West Edge. >> Well, that's my point. >> That's my point. You have to go down the West Edge. So I mean nobody's going to go all the way out and all the way back over. >> Yeah. All the way down. So, I just want to make sure >> that's why I'd like them to do it >> that this either gets done quick or they wait till the other ones get >> Yeah, since it's a Millan overlay, it it can handle traffic while they're doing the work there, but uh and it usually will go pretty quick. There's not a lot of They're going to have to flag it a little bit while they're in the area. U but it's not a lot of disruption in reality. >> Okay. So, they don't like shut down the road for a day or two >> or like half of it. >> Think we'll be flagged for a little bit. I think Were you going to do a hydrant over there? That'll be after the >> road. Yeah, it traffic will be able to get through there. Just be slowed down once in a while. >> How long is it like start to finish? A week, two weeks. >> Uh the milling portion of it, it'll probably be happen within a day and then u whenever they get typically there's some casting adjustments and some stuff like that. Um and then the paving will happen within a day too. So it's really just two two big days of activity and then there might I don't know exactly how their contract is structured. So it might be a day of activity. They're gone for a little while, then they come back. >> Okay. >> And co orange cones on the the castings and the valves and stuff sticking up, >> right? >> All right. Does council have any other questions? >> All right. We got a resolution. Can I get a motion? >> Uh I make a motion to approve resolution number 2629. Um approving cost share of West Edge Boulevard Mill and Overlay with City of Minatrista Mount City project PW26-13. >> All right, you got a motion. Can I get a second? >> Second. >> All right, any other discussion? All those in favor, please say I. >> I. >> I. >> Those opposed. All right, that passes. Thank you. Then up next, we got B. Approve resolution 2630. to receive plans and authorize bidding for the 2026 street reconstruction project. >> Thank you, mayor and members of the council. Matt Bowman, city engineer. Uh so before you tonight is a, as you mentioned, authorization to go for bid for the 2026 street and utility project. Um this project is kind of all over the city. So north, west, south, um all the way out in Island Park. There's a road Kildair road out there and it includes a couple different aspects of um street reconstruction typically where we're doing water main replacement and then milling overlay on some other streets. So you can see in here the different colors. So blue stands for um the mill and overlay and then the yellow is for the reconstructed streets. Um so yeah, so up in three points um Dutch Lake area down in the highlands u that killed air road over at an island park and then the couple um old shoreline and Marion Lane in downtown mound. Um so we with our engineers estimate we're uh at 3,25,000 and that's about uh around 80,000 less than our feasibility study estimate. That's all accounted for in the capital improvement plan, long-term financial management plan. Um, and so with that, I'll stand for any questions. Otherwise, we're looking for authorization to bid and we'll be back in May with the bid amounts and looking for award. >> All right. >> Well, these projects are all part of what we just approved from the capital. >> Yeah, these are so these have already been laid out and planned out sometime. Yeah. >> Yeah. We're just at the next stage. Um making sure we're staying transparent and ready to move to the next steps. >> All right. Council, have any other question? >> All right. Can I get a motion for the resolution? >> Uh motion to approve resol resolution number 2630. Uh receiving plans and specifications and ordering advertisement for bids for the 2026 street and utility improvements project. Uh, city project number PW26-01 and PW-2602. >> All right, got a motion. Can I get a second? >> Second. >> All right, got a second. Any other discussion? All those in favor, please say I. >> I. Those opposed. All right, that passes. >> All right, next we got C. Approve resolution 2631 awarding Evergreen water tower painting project to Tanco, Inc. PW2610. We got Mr. Preach, >> Mayor, excuse me, mayor, member of the council. I am here for make a recommendation for a motion to approve the ward of project uh PW2610 evergreen water tower painting project tanks. Um, on Tuesday, March 31st at 10:00 a.m., uh, KLM put up on Quest CD CDN online and on public uh, via website uh, the bid process for uh, the Evergreen Water Tower uh, recoding project. It is going to consist of cleaning, repairing, and painting the 300,000galon uh tower. Uh engineer estimate was $650,000. And Tanks Co. came in at low bid at $435,000 20 or $435,250, which is $214,750 uh below the engineer's estimate. uh Tanks Co. uh did provide documentation uh and met or exceeded all the qualifications and requirements for the project and Jesse pull up some pictures. You want to see the this one, right? >> The this is the current design for the project. And uh I guess if you guys have any questions about that and then I also have some pictures of uh past work that tank Tanks Co. has completed. >> Okay. Does council have any questions for >> has is KM comfortable working with Tanks Co? Have they done a lot of projects? >> Yeah, that was the first question I had with them. And as you can see some of the >> Come on. I'm going to do >> some of the jobs they've done in the past. This is all Tanks Co's past work. >> Okay. >> And they said that they're very confident that they'll >> That's pretty similar. >> That's what it looked like before. >> Oh wow. >> And then are we going to get another opportunity to approve a design or has that happened? >> That has happened. Yeah. >> Is there more help? So, we didn't approve of any waves or anything. >> Oh, yeah. You missed that meeting. >> Yeah. >> Um, this is what we what what we all came up with. >> Yeah. I mean, I like this, but I I I still be You don't like the waves? >> Well, I think the overall feeling was just get keep it clean. Keep it >> just Are you going to Are you imagining this logo on four >> three sides? Because it's a little wider on the other side. >> Okay. Perfect. And then hopefully you can copy and paste this and next year for the other one. >> If that's what you guys want to do, that's what we'll do. >> Well, it' be nice to have them. I mean, we'll have a meeting and >> Yeah. >> Yeah. We go over that. There might be small different details cuz it's a different shape. >> Mhm. >> But we're saving 200 grand. Can't they just >> do one and a half? I wish we could get to it sooner and soon. >> I mean, it's just every time you drive into Shirley Hills, all you see is that tote monster looking like it's very dishelved. But can I just ask why did everybody decide not against the waves? It was too busy or >> graphically I don't think it landed in the right. It looked >> Oh, because it was smashed. >> I think it would have looked better on this one. Yeah, >> this one has the the ramp >> and the railing and there's just it was kind of busy. >> Yeah. >> And I tried to >> move the waves up which made the emblem smaller but it looked bad when the waves were lower. So it just >> Yeah. I I did that all on my computer too going something looked a little strange. >> And this way we can make the emblem a little bit bigger too. So >> as long as you can read >> I'm comfortable with this. I just didn't know it was approved that night because >> I was told we were just discussing it and there' be further. >> So I'm just getting caught up is all I'm asking for. I'm not disagreeing. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I think >> you would have agreed if you had seen it graphically. >> Yeah. Well, I did. >> Yeah. >> We just couldn't get it. >> I sent it quite right. >> Oh, you did? >> Yeah. >> Oh, okay. >> Yeah. That's why I monkey got it, too. >> Okay. So, any other Do you want me to >> Yeah. Do you want to do a motion? >> Okay. Motion uh to approve resolution 26-31 accepting bid for Evergreen Water Tower well number 8 city project PW26-10. >> All right, got a motion. Can I get a second? >> Second. >> Oh, we said I don't know who said it first. We'll get Michelle. >> Doesn't matter. >> Jinx. >> All right. Motion and a second. Any discussion? >> All those in favor, please say I. >> I. >> Those opposed. All right, that passes. Thanks, man. >> Thank you. Thank you. >> All right, number 10. We got announcements. Uh, council member question. >> Well, um, let's see. Gillespie Center is, um, having a series of activities in the next two weeks. Um, they're trying to raise money and they've hired a new director. His name is Brian and he's on staff now, but I think part-time is they're onboarding him. Um, but he'll be full-time by the end of the month. Um, so that's that. Um, and the planning commission per the request of I mean the parks commission per the request of the board did go to look at um, Surfside, the depot and the condition is actually it's pretty good. Um there are some utility upgrades that staff is already working on because we have um items that aren't up to code right now. So they're having to replace the stove some of those kitchen utility spaces. In terms of the bathroom on the lower level, um, everyone said, you know, there's a pipe there, but there's really not a lot of fixings for creating a bathroom in that lower level, which was a question, but that would be up to this board to make a decision if you wanted to explore getting a bid on the cost of that. But we did look at it. Um, so, you know, we thought it all looked good. There were some suggestions about other uses for the for the depot and other locations and um you know, but nothing nothing really specific at this point. Um and you'll see it in the minutes and probably in the next meeting. And I think that's it. Oh, the new fire chief. >> You want to do that? >> No, go ahead. Well, we have a new fire chief who is now I'm forget >> Andy. >> Andy Drill. >> Drill. >> Andy Drill. Yeah. Is the new fire chief. >> So, um, you know, I want to congratulate the staff. They really did a great job, you know, the timing and the process and the the swiftness in which they did all that. I was really impressed um with the staff. And I think that we're all probably pretty impressed that Andy was selected. that he was sort of a natural >> right >> for it. So >> yeah, I think that's it. >> All right. >> Yeah, >> council member. >> I don't have anything. I was out of town and didn't make it back in time for the planning meeting. One of very few I've ever missed. So I have nothing to report from that night. >> Okay. >> Uh and you know, it's been a nice long break for all of us to kind of come up for air and >> get going for the summer. So >> that's all I've got. Um, let's see. I didn't go to the police thing. I'll let you give that update. Um, I do have a question though, and I don't Ryan can probably address this, but um, if we're going to be painting the tower on Sorbbo Park, it's already a mess over there. Now, we've got two temporary cell towers put up. The baseball area is disrupted. The playground itself has got, I guess, that's temporary fencing around it. I mean, do we want to shut that park down for a certain period of time while we got all this stuff going on or >> We already addressed that once in a council meeting and the the communication we will be putting out when it gets more intense. >> Okay. >> It's pretty much just the playground and the basketball court are going to be usable probably for well if we move forward with the treatment plant probably for two years. >> Oh, really? We we've already I when we did the presentation for phase two uh water treatment >> project that's starting we already said that that green space is going to be used as a storage area. >> So what pretty much eliminates this whole summer. >> Okay. >> And if we move forward with more construction, we already are going to be drilling a a new well up in up in the woods. So that's more storage that we're going to have to have in that area. And if we build It's just pretty much shutting down that park for >> minimum of two year two summers. >> And I mean, >> so it will be rehabbed after the fact, but >> I don't think it's been drawn to anyone's attention yet. But I mean, I'm just glad that the public works is on it because that's going to become a mess up there. >> So, we we talked about it when I when we talked about the infrastructure project in this in a meeting here. Mhm. >> We'll put out some communication about it for long term. And then currently we just put up some snow fence around the playground and >> I tried putting green up so we don't have bright orange fence up there for a long time. >> But trying to deter people away from that and it'll be more obvious when they start staging and storing equipment there. Mhm. >> So, >> can you utilize any of that school property for staging or >> is that you can't do >> No, nature. >> Yeah, >> I know. Bruce Miller nature preserve >> to preserve >> but yeah, that was just a question I had because I think moving forward we need to make sure and obviously we'll need to put out other public communication. I mean, it's not that far side and we've got that big playground there. I don't see any reason why we can't redirect traffic >> and Highland. >> And Highland. Yeah, both of those can accommodate what's, you know, what's currently there. I think it's better to provide a first class experience than half park and dangerous situations that could arise just because we are children. Did you make some little sign and just say, you know, nearest park, two nearest parks, this way, that way. Um >> Oh, yeah. >> Put a disclosure. Maybe be careful crossing the street. But I mean, if you're going to Highland, but >> yeah. >> Um, >> you know, playground's open at Surfside or >> something like that. And >> or say, you know, feel free to use this playground, the basketball hoop. The rest of it's the ballpark is off. We can put something together. We have some sign boards and we can Yeah. >> Even put up some QR codes that link >> all the parks. >> Great. >> So, >> cool. >> There you go. >> Well, Highland has they don't have a basketball court like >> Sorbo does, but they do have a huge area for soccer and I mean there used to be a baseball diamond there, but they still have the back fence that >> Yeah. The nearest space would be probably Dutch Lake. >> Mhm. >> For them. Yeah, >> I think we have a brand new sun machine, right? So, this will be a great way to test it out. >> So, go back up for clarification. Do you is it do you guys want the park closed for this time and fenced off? Do we want to keep the U that we have around the playground and the >> and the basketball court and just kind of try to maintain people to that area >> open as long as you can. >> Yeah. Okay. >> I just I don't think it's going to get really bad until they start painting and staging, right? >> Or what different times? I mean, painting is going to cause a little >> it's going to be equipment and and like material stage off in the green space. So they'll see some traffic during the day, but we don't see park traffic too much during the day other than maybe a stroller to taking a walk. >> Okay. >> It's more in the evening, I think, is when you see a lot more traffic in the park >> and by that time they shouldn't be working that late. Some they'll probably push it to five or six some nights, but and it primarily won't be on that site. It'll be down the road on the project. I just know when I walked there through there the other night there's big rivets where the equipment went through. So I mean that whole area is going to be off limits I think. Right. >> It's going to be basically the usable space will be the basketball court and the playground only >> and that'll be through the whole project or you going to have to shut down at one point for a little bit. >> It will be through pretty much the whole project. We're going to have the water tower taking up a good portion. We're going to have staging area in the green space. you're going to have traffic. I mean, not consistent traffic, but they need to go up to uh the upper lots, I'll call it. Um, so really, it's just this summer, next summer, it will be just that basketball court and that playground area. So, if you brown fence that off >> and then right in the inside of the fence >> with our nice sign, just say, >> you know, basketball and playground is open. Um, and then say closest other playground is Surfside uh park or something, you know. Yep. Right down there or >> something like that. So if I mean they still use that playground but >> um or and then maybe say closest to other ballpark is whatever >> and then so that at least people have two other options >> in case they're not having >> we can actually put a QR code. It'll list all the all their parks and all the amenities that are at each one of them. >> Yeah. I mean that would I think look good that we're thinking ahead on that. Well, it's proactive, too, to >> so people know that we aren't trying to keep them away from fun. >> Yeah. >> You know, because it will impact a lot of kids. >> Yep. >> All right. >> Okay. >> That's all I got. >> Thank you. >> That's all you have me? >> Yes, that's all I have. >> All right. So, I'm doing uh the police interview. You already had your your shot at it, >> but anyway, I guess it's down to two. Um and then so that's uh Thursday we're going to do that. So um we'll see what happens there. >> You're able to participate in the hiring of the police chief. >> Um so because we're on the police commission and plus because mom pays half of the >> the bill. We get a say. Oh, that's >> that doesn't mean >> I mean if even if I say well this person then they they might end up going with the other person but >> I'll make I'll make it known if I strong feel strongly you know about one person or not. Um we did the same thing with the fire chief. Um the the fire commission had you know somewhat of a say um I don't think they hired they did the interview process but at least you gave them feed got feedback >> right? Yeah it's similar. Yeah. So anyway, um there was one city manager and then one person from the council and I just took it. Sorry. >> Um so yeah, we'll see see what see what happens here. Um next uh Thursday at 6 o'clock >> six o'clock >> we're going to have uh kind of an open house for city mound. Come on out if you're hearing this or seeing it. Um, it's going to be in the the fire bay there. We're going to have light apps and or treats, I guess, and dessert or uh drinks or something. And uh we're going to give you kind of a brief update on the city and then kind of an introduction to all the different departments and um there will be a lot of lot of people to talk to if you're interested in learning more about the city. So, going to do that. Um let's see. I don't think I have much more than that. Do you have any else? >> I don't think so. >> I forgot the >> Yeah. >> Do you want to say some more? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Okay. I've done some preliminary looking at um if we would want to do a city national night out um you know where neighbors who don't have their neighborhood one could come. And I called St. Bonnie to find out how they did theirs because they do a citywide one. Their their night out was always sponsored by the Lions and during CO it got cancelled for a couple of years and two years ago the city did it but now it's going back to the Lions. So that's a different model than maybe what we were talking about although we could approach the Lions or one of the nonprofits to do it. Um what they do in St. Bonnie is they get um the businesses to donate prizes that they give out as door prizes. And the way they do door prizes, they hand out tickets as people come in and then they just pull from those tickets. But most of the gifts are for kids and they do a bouncing house and for food they've done hot dogs. So, um, one, we'd have to kind of look at comparisons if we're going to sponsor it, what kind of budget we would have, and if we have money in our budget that can be allocated for such or to work with um, some of the nonprofits maybe like I thought about having Miss Gillespie do their um, what is it? cornbag challenge thing that they do and maybe we can um you know be sponsors and we'd work with them as city um you know to to be sponsors but they'd be kind of the lead people on it and we'd get businesses to contribute $50 to $100 each and we could set up the businesses could have tables where the farmers market is so people could kind of get to know the owners of the businesses you know Um and um so I mean it's it's an opportunity for us to do that uh piece. Um we wouldn't have to do real largecale stuff, but um it's really how we're going to cost it out and how we sponsor it would be the thing to do. >> I think that we should talk to WCC and also the Lions. Austin and the Lions. I don't feel like we're in a position to start funding events and >> I just, you know, you most cities, like you said, the Lions or Chamber of Commerce, they're usually who take on these kinds of events >> and um I think that we should start that route >> and we offer our fabulous, you know, Lost Lakeite Commons, but then they would take care of the planning and >> take care of getting the permits and all that kind kind of stuff that that's just what I would encourage until we >> amp up staff and >> you know have more money in our budget in parks to take on things like this. But it's a great event and I can't imagine the Lions or somebody wouldn't be totally interested in partnering with somebody else to take that on. I like the idea. >> Yeah. >> Any other thoughts? I mean, yeah. I mean, I I agree with everything. We can, you know, hopefully they'll they'll go for it. And if not, >> I mean, we could even just like our like this event that we just are going to do next week. >> I mean, really just we'll be there. The council will be down that, >> you know, at at uh there. And then we'll have uh police and fire, >> you know, we can have maybe one or two come out. >> So, like if they don't have like a neighborhood party, >> they can come down there. Yeah, I mean a lot of people are going to have their parties, but you know, if you don't have one, come down there. >> We're not going to give you any food. We're not gonna, you know, we're just hanging out. This is your own invite food trucks >> to come and do food and people could buy their own food. >> We're just opening the park. >> We're pretty much opening the park >> to an opportunity, >> but I I would agree it'd be nice if we could get some of the local nonprofits to kind of spearhead it. Um because I think it can be done in a way that it doesn't become an expense to any of those groups either because they're all trying to raise money to sustain their organizations. >> Well, they can charge money too unlike >> right >> us. >> Well, except for a national, you know, it's not really one you charge for, >> but but you know, if they could raise funds for doing a bunch of hot dogs on a grill or what have you, they have >> means to do that. >> Yeah. So, another reason for them to spearhead it. >> Yeah. >> Do you want to bring it up at the next meeting? >> Yeah. >> Cool. >> All right. Uh, do you have anything else? >> I don't think so. >> All right. Um, next uh council meeting is Tuesday, April 28th at 6 o'clock. And I'll take a motion to adjurnn. >> Right. Got a motion. Can I get a second? >> Yeah. Two motions, two seconds. All right. Any other discussion? All those in favor, please say I. I. >> I. >> Those opposed. All right. We're turn.