there. Okay, I see it's six o'clock. I'd like to call to order the Tuesday, June 3. Regular meeting of the Mountain Planning Commission. Roll call, please. Council member Mcani. Hi. Planning Commission Member Wallace here. Planning Commission Member Nick Rosner here. Vice Chair, Planning Commissioner Jason Baker here. Planning Commission Member Drew Heel here. Planning Commission Member Samantha Wacker here. Planning Commission Member Kristen Young here. Planning Commission Chair David Good here. We have before you the agenda that Sarah sent out by email. There are not any amendments. Chair would entertain a motion to approve the agenda as distributed. Motion to approve agenda as distributed. Second. We have a second discussion hearing. None. All those in favor signify by saying I. I. Those opposed, nay. Motion carries. We have also before you as sent by email regular meeting minutes of the April 1, 2025 meeting of the commission. Chair would entertain a motion to approve the minutes as distributed unless anyone has changes or amendments. Motion to approve as distributed. Second. Motion and second discussion. Hearing none. All those in favor signify by saying I. I. Those opposed? Nay. Motion carries. Board of adjustment and appeals. Reviewcommendation planning case 25-05. Variance for fence height and front setback at 2881 West Edge Boulevard. Applicant Tim and Ellen Williams. Miss Sarah. Good evening, members of the planning commission, uh, guests and applicants. My name is Sarah Smith. I'm the planner for Mound for the city of Mound and I'll be providing a overview of the variance application that we have submitted for the property at 2881 West Edge Boulevard. You can advance the slide, Miss Sarah. Uh, the applicant is Tim and Ellen Williams, as was mentioned by Mr. Good. Uh depicted on the overhead shows the location of the property. Uh it is located at the intersection of two improved roads known as Pine Road and West Edge Boulevard. For the purpose of setbacks, both are considered to be front, but for front for the purpose of determining what is the rear West Edge Boulevard is deemed to be the front. Uh this property includes a single family home with an attached twocar garage. Next slide, please. The applicant is requesting a variance to allow installation of a six-foot privacy fence that would replace an existing 5-ft chain link fence that's located on portions of the property. Uh the fence is to propose to be installed in the front setback area along Pine Road. Fences in this area within the front setback dimension of 30 feet are limited to not more than four feet. The applicant is requesting a portion of the fence in the front in the front setback area to be six feet to allow for privacy for the for for their family's property. Next slide, please. Uh very simply, the comp plan guides this property and neighboring areas as single family, low density. The zoning is single family R1, which means it typically has a 10,000 square foot minimum, a 30 foot front setback, as was indicated a few moments ago. This is a corner lot, so it is subject to uh setbacks on two elevations, both on Pine Road and on West Edge Boulevard. The proposed fence is depicted on the overhead. Uh and what you can see is uh there is an existing five-foot fence that runs basically parallel uh with with the with the side of the house facing pine and that runs uh horizontally and then extends southward generally in the vicinity of the of the west property line uh and then turns to to scooch back to the house on the corner. uh that as was stated earlier, that's a five- foot pri uh chain link fence. The applicant is requesting that we allow for the portion of the fence that's located within that 30foot setback to be located uh to be a to have a height rather of six feet rather than limited to four feet. And as depicted in the in the lower graphic on the right hand side, you can see in red, uh that fence would basically replace the existing fence that's there, but it would change in its height and appearance in that it would proposed uh to be constructed at a 6oot elevation rather than five. Um, and as was indicated uh in the planning report, the segment of Chainlake fence between their west property line uh and their back corner of their home uh facing their west line that would stay uh in its current uh location with that includes a 5-ft chain link fence. Next, please. Uh just a little bit about fences. Um, as was noted in the report, generally speaking, fences within the front setback are limited to 4 feet in height. Uh fences that are located beyond the the required setback are allowed to be six feet in height in most cases and they can run along property lines and they can demark property lines as long as all improvements are constructed on the applicant's shared portion of the property line. It's important to note that only a portion of the fence would be located uh within the front setback as because as you can see the existing house in its corner is located about 16 ft and the applicant is proposing to align the fence to match up with that with that elevation. So they are not requesting a a six foot fence from their property line ab budding uh Pine Road. Rather it'll be set back a little bit. So, uh, we are not seeing the six-foot fence within the entirety of the front setback area along Pine Road. Next slide, please. Um, as as I mentioned, uh, you can see, uh, that the Make sure to turn this off. Um, again, here is here's the area of the fence. Uh, this is the corner of the house. Um, as was mentioned in the report, the setback of the existing house in this location is 16.5 ft and then there is an existing uh right of way of about 11 ft before the before the edge of back of curb. So even though it's 30 foot, it's actually quite a quite a distance and I think we estimated be between 28 and 29 feet from the edge of curb based on the rightway alignment for this road. Um, again, dimensionwise, what they're proposing is to replace the chain link in this location, kind of run it alongside the property line, and as it scooches down, it'll be closer to the property line, and then this segment of chain link fence, which is 5T, would stay. Next slide, please. Uh, as is normal, we did route the application to affected departments, staff, agencies. We have not received uh any comments back. Uh as is also normal and customary, we also provided notification of the variance application to what we call affected properties, ones that are close by, ones that are across the street. Um just to make them aware of the planning commission's consideration of the variance uh at tonight's meeting. Um we may may have someone here um or perhaps we don't. Um the planning commission's consideration of the variance uh as was noted in the planning report staff has recommended approval. Uh included in the planning report are not only findings of effect but recommended conditions uh that are for your consideration uh based on the planning commission's review of the matter and discussion uh as a commission but also with the applicant who is present this evening. Um there is an opportunity to ask questions. there's an opportunity to make a recommendation uh if if that's where the planning commission wants to go. Staff's recommendation is for approval. Um I will be happy to answer any questions uh by members of the planning commission or folks that are with us this evening. Okay. Questions for Sarah? So just to be clear, yeah, if this was an interior lot Yeah. the height for us for a fence, six feet is fine. Yeah. Right. If if that had another lot next to it, it would be fine in that location. That's correct. Okay. And then did you happen to mention the materials that they're going to use for the new fence? Yeah. And maybe that's a question we can confirm with the with the applicant, but our understanding is that it's a privacy fence, but you can certainly ask specific materials uh um since Mr. William was kind to join us this evening. Great. Thanks. I do have a question. You were talking about the right way and the distance from the curb. So, what is the total distance from the curb to the um from back of curb to the property line? It's about 11 ft plus or minus. We used our blue beam. Um we do have a survey from the property owner, but we we loaded it up and used our own calculations. And then it's about 28 to 29 ft between the back of curb to where in the vicinity where the where the fence is going to start. So, it's significantly back. Yeah. Yeah. And we measure from the we measure from the property line. Correct. As well right here. Yeah. Gotcha. Good questions. Thank you. Could you say more about the spirit of the front facing restriction being 4 feet in different? Yeah. The I think the where that likely deres from is that putting tall fences within the front setback. It creates potentially kind of a walled off effect. kind of where the forefoot comes is kind of looking at like a neighborhood chain link or neighborhood picket fence which is kind of normal that you'd see in a front versus once you get back behind that front area fences for privacy and for demarking property lines they we allow it to go higher that I think that's where that probably comes from. I also wanted to mention as well that um what we'd often see with with um corner lots is that the fence will not be within that sight triangle. That's also something that we want to make sure that we're not, you know, putting improvements in here that are too tall that when you come this way or go this way that it blocks vehicular tropics movement. But And what do you consider the feet for the triangle? Oh goodness. I I'm sorry I don't have that math calc with me, but it's it's a measurement that goes back from this point to this point. And then you and I was just wondering how many feet that is. Yeah. Okay. But this fence will be outside the sight triangle, right? I got it. Yep. Okay, further questions for Sarah. Further discussion amongst the commission hearing. None. Thank you for your kind attention. Mr. Williams, would you like to address the commission? I don't have any additional comments. Sarah did a perfect job. Okay. We need you, sir. Our custom is you give us your name and your address. Ah, Timothy Williams, 2881 West Edge Boulevard, which is the corner lot with Pine Pine Road, West Edge Boulevard. Uh, you asked about materials. Um, the quote I got from Lowe's was uh for Cedar. Um, okay. Uh, I think it's going to look so much nicer than the sagging uh chain link fence that's there now. Yeah, I drove by the property and I think it'll be a nice enhancement. I just wondered what you know if it was going to be white or wood or I think uh the natural color. Yeah, it'll look is is what my intention is. Yeah. Thank you. [Music] Okay. Further questions from Mr. Williams. Thank you. And thank you very much. Thank you, sir. Okay. You have all read the uh supporting documentation from Sarah. On page seven of our packet, there is a recommendation by staff for recommendation for approval from the commission to the council on this request with three conditions and three findings of fact. Do I hear any further discussion? Hearing none, chair would entertain a motion. So, I'll make a motion to approve planning case 255 variance for fence height for 2881 wrest. Second. We have a motion. Do we have a second? Second. Second. Second. Thank you. All right. Motion and a second. Further discussion. Hearing none. All those in favor signify by saying I. I. Those opposed? Nay. Motion carries. Thank you. Moving on. City council. Oh. May I just offer a um with with deference to the planning commission just a comment to the applicant? I think we're going to because I know it's construction season um and this is fairly straightforward with staff and planning commission. I think we're going to turn this if we can so it'll be included potentially on next Tuesday's city council meeting as a consent item. So that that way you'd be done. So I can follow I can request a permit after next after that if if we receive approval and I'm able to push that through tomorrow in the event my day falls apart then it gets it goes to the second council meeting but we're sure going to try I'll keep allighty thank you thank you sir thank you members of the plan commission okay moving on city council leaison have well it's been a pretty light agenda recently so I guess the unofficial kickoff this summer is the fish fry so hopefully we'll see y'all there this Saturday and then um next Thursday starts music in the park um Pandora's other box with me me Pueblo food truck and then the following nights will be July 10th which is the pan handlers and that that'll be Daruma and August 7th is Chris Kelly live with me Pueblo again for the food truck. And that's really all I've got tonight. Okay. Any questions for Kathy? How's the library going? Uh, well, you know, we're going to have a temporary library in the city hall, but they haven't been making a lot of movement at this point. So, we'll be ready for returns and things as soon as the library is ready to shut down. And but There have been a few setbacks, so nothing's happening yet. Okay, thanks. Okay, Sarah. Uh, Miss Mcananey had a had a lot of good events that are coming. Um, farmers market started a couple weeks ago. Uh, that's always exciting. Um, as you said, fish fry is getting ready. It'll we'll see a lot of activity in the next couple of days. Everybody's excited about that. Um, Spirit of the Lakes is is coming up next month. um the 17th through the 19th. Uh so we're all really excited about that. Um Toritona will be will be coming forward in August and I think we're going to be hearing from them about this year's activity at next Tuesday's council meeting. Um as a reminder, our next meeting is July 1st and the the next regular meeting after that is our August meeting which was moved at the beginning of the year from the 5th through the 3 Tuesday. so that everybody can attend night to unite. So, um just as a reminder and we'll we'll let you know but that we moved all those meetings accordingly earlier in the year because that's an annual activity that members of the planning commission and council uh partake in. So, it allows everybody to to do that. Um uh it's very busy with events and uh property inquiries and projects and um we're we're doing all right. We're hanging in there best we can. Uh, but we are excited for summer and um it's it's as you know I was traveling so I'm glad to be back kind of getting back to normal I hope as normal as I am anyway. Um do you have any comments about the Hallstead oh bay project? Yeah. Um, if you haven't, I would encourage you watch the last Tuesday's council meeting. Um, the original applications that the council saw as a council introduction um, which we were moving forward for public hearing uh, at a special meeting of this body were withdrawn and they came forth with uh, an amended plan that has different a different arrangement. It now has a condo and it has a a four four unit of town home complex and a single family home and then a and then a water accessory building. Um council heard that last Tuesday and we are reaching reaching back to them to see to check on where we're at with applications because I think we're going to be expecting things soon. Um and you know I think it's possible that we may see them for hearing in July. Um and otherwise you know our next meeting isn't without doing something special isn't until mid August. So I think that's that would we want to keep things moving uh with regards to keeping on a schedule. Um they were also on Minatrista's planning commission that same night and I haven't heard how things went but we'll be checking in with with the developer um to just kind of help them best that we can to keep things moving. Just a side note, um you know, in their initial presentation, they were treating Mound as sort of the stepsister, and we asked them to step things up, and it really looks great. They're going to do a really nice job. In fact, I don't know if anybody else got this on a magazine in their mail, but they had kind of a layout and a property, how it's going to be broken down. It looks really great. So, hopefully they they will be able to get started quickly and clean that space. I don't know if we've taken down the old stuff yet, but we will. But we'll soon as new applications come. But um otherwise, you can certainly look at and see what was in the council packet or watch last Tuesday's meeting because they they did a nice job presenting that to members of the council. So, but thank you and it's nice to see everybody. We have everybody here. It's great. Thank you. Okay. I see we have no information items. Are there any other matters that anyone wants to bring before the commission? Hearing none, cherry would entertain a motion to adjurnn. Motion to adjurnn. Second. We have a motion and a second. Discussion. Hearing none. All those in favor signify by saying I. I. Those opposed, nay. Motion carries. Thank you for coming. Thanks everyone. Great to see everybody.