00:00:06.467 --> 00:00:11.934 All right, it is. 701 here. Uh, let’s, I call this meeting to 00:00:11.934 --> 00:00:17.533 order. Uh, let’s start off with, uh, next item of agenda on the 00:00:17.533 --> 00:00:28.100 agenda. roll call. Chair Commissioner Wako present, 00:00:28.100 --> 00:00:35.400 Commissioner Barr. Commissioner Coroso. Commissioner Fraser. 00:00:35.400 --> 00:00:43.934 Commissioner Araja. Commissioner Odama. Um 00:00:43.934 --> 00:00:50.400 Commissioner got by. Commissioner Turner. Councilman 00:00:50.400 --> 00:00:56.900 McGarvey. Uh, you have uh excused, uh, you have a coum 00:00:56.900 --> 00:01:01.033 chair. Thank you. Uh, let’s stand for the Pledge of 00:01:01.033 --> 00:01:09.033 allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United 00:01:09.033 --> 00:01:13.800 States of America. And to the republic for which it stands. 00:01:13.800 --> 00:01:17.033 One nation under God indivisible with liberty and 00:01:17.033 --> 00:01:27.200 justice for all. 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Please note 00:02:04.000 --> 00:02:07.734 that the agenda for tonight’s meeting indicates that the 00:02:07.734 --> 00:02:11.467 commission chair has the prerogative to invoke a time 00:02:11.467 --> 00:02:15.467 limit for speakers during any public hearing in the interests 00:02:15.467 --> 00:02:19.033 of maintaining focus and the effective use of time. Thank 00:02:19.033 --> 00:02:23.266 you in advance for your cooperation. The planning 00:02:23.266 --> 00:02:25.934 commission consists of 9 resident volunteer members 00:02:25.934 --> 00:02:29.667 appointed by the city council to advise the city council on 00:02:29.667 --> 00:02:35.100 planning and land use issues. The commission discusses and 00:02:35.100 --> 00:02:38.800 evaluates development proposals based on zoning regulations and 00:02:38.800 --> 00:02:42.533 comprehensive plan policies. The planning commission vote is 00:02:42.533 --> 00:02:45.667 a recommendation that is forwarded to the city council 00:02:45.667 --> 00:02:54.734 for official and final action. Uh, let’s move to the next 00:02:54.734 --> 00:03:03.000 agenda item, um. That is, uh, Adam number 3, Arogen of the 00:03:03.000 --> 00:03:15.533 agenda. Um I have a Motion All right, motion has been made. It 00:03:15.533 --> 00:03:22.934 has been 2nd in the discussion? All right, uh, let’s vote all 00:03:22.934 --> 00:03:27.367 in favor say aye, aye, any polls? All right, the motion 00:03:27.367 --> 00:03:37.400 carries. The next item on the agenda is, uh, item number 4. 00:03:37.400 --> 00:03:42.367 Um, the consent agenda. Which includes the minutes from the 00:03:42.367 --> 00:03:44.400 previous meetings. Are there any changes to the meeting 00:03:44.400 --> 00:03:54.000 minutes? All right, uh, if no changes, not hearing any 00:03:54.000 --> 00:04:12.634 changes, um. it Can you turn on your mic? On the minutes of 00:04:12.634 --> 00:04:18.000 March 17, 2025, uh, those excuses were commissioner Wacko 00:04:18.000 --> 00:04:21.000 and council member Eriksson says maybe should be council 00:04:21.000 --> 00:04:37.166 member. McGarvey. session. That’s correct. Yeah, that was 00:04:37.166 --> 00:04:42.467 the um was that. Uh So it was McGarvey that was abs I was I 00:04:42.467 --> 00:04:45.133 thought it was Erickson was Erickson was was absent from 00:04:45.133 --> 00:04:48.533 that meeting, yeah. That’s correct. That’s correct. Um-hum. 00:04:48.533 --> 00:04:58.567 OK. All right, anything else on that, uh, either the consent 00:04:58.567 --> 00:05:05.000 agenda or meeting minutes. All right, can I get a motion? Then 00:05:05.000 --> 00:05:09.834 get a second All right, the motion has been made. Uh, it 00:05:09.834 --> 00:05:18.500 has been 2nd. Um, all in favor. Say aye. Any polls? All right, 00:05:18.500 --> 00:05:45.467 motion carries. Let’s move to um item 5, the 5.1. Good 00:05:45.467 --> 00:05:47.300 evening Charhaven and members of the planning commission for 00:05:47.300 --> 00:05:50.367 the record, Kara Donovan, senior planner with the 00:05:50.367 --> 00:05:53.533 planning division. I’m here presenting our preliminary plot 00:05:53.533 --> 00:05:56.934 application and two variants requests as case number 25-103 00:05:56.934 --> 00:05:59.934 for the North Park Business Center, Northwest Corner Mixed 00:05:59.934 --> 00:06:05.367 Use Project. The site is located at the southeast corner 00:06:05.367 --> 00:06:11.667 of Highway 169 and 109th Avenue. The subject property is 32 00:06:11.667 --> 00:06:16.000 acres and a butts commercial property to the south and east, 00:06:16.000 --> 00:06:17.667 Highway 169 borders the property to the west and the 00:06:17.667 --> 00:06:21.567 city of Champlain is north of 109th Avenue with commercial 00:06:21.567 --> 00:06:26.233 and residential uses. The parcel is owned Business Park 00:06:26.233 --> 00:06:29.266 District, as are the properties to the east and south. The 00:06:29.266 --> 00:06:31.734 property to the west across Highway 169 is zoned to Urban 00:06:31.734 --> 00:06:37.834 reserve. The subject location is the last area of the North 00:06:37.834 --> 00:06:43.200 Park Business Center to be developed. The applicant 00:06:43.200 --> 00:06:46.000 proposeds subdividing the site and constructing two new public 00:06:46.000 --> 00:06:49.266 roads for access to the newly created lots. The North-South 00:06:49.266 --> 00:06:52.800 Street will be Zealand Avenue and the East West Road will be 00:06:52.800 --> 00:06:56.100 18th Court, which is proposed to have a cul-de-sac. These 00:06:56.100 --> 00:06:58.467 streets will align with the reconstruction project on 109th 00:06:58.467 --> 00:07:04.200 Avenue. The applicant is requesting approval for a 00:07:04.200 --> 00:07:06.767 preliminary plot for the creation of 2 lots and 3 00:07:06.767 --> 00:07:14.133 outlets as seen on the screen. The applicant also has two 00:07:14.133 --> 00:07:16.867 variants requests. The first, uh, variance request is for a 00:07:16.867 --> 00:07:20.133 50-foot right of way for Zeeland Avenue and 108th Court. 00:07:20.133 --> 00:07:23.367 This request would require a deviation of 10 ft from the 00:07:23.367 --> 00:07:27.033 required 60 ft right of way width for local streets. Uh, 00:07:27.033 --> 00:07:30.200 variances may be granted when the variant request meets the 00:07:30.200 --> 00:07:32.934 three-factor test of practical difficulties, the first of 00:07:32.934 --> 00:07:36.100 which is reasonableness, um, asking if the use is practical. 00:07:36.100 --> 00:07:38.834 Um, staff believe that the reduced right of way would have 00:07:38.834 --> 00:07:42.567 traffic calming effects and would direct traffic to Xylon 00:07:42.567 --> 00:07:46.734 Avenue, um, and the request is supported by the city engineer. 00:07:46.734 --> 00:07:50.567 Uh, second test is uniqueness is are there unique physical 00:07:50.567 --> 00:07:53.133 characteristics and the public streets would provide access to 00:07:53.133 --> 00:07:56.000 North Park Business Center, while discouraging cut through 00:07:56.000 --> 00:07:59.567 traffic in alignment with the reconstruction at 109th Avenue. 00:07:59.567 --> 00:08:03.367 The city is constructing a 3-quarter access at 109th 00:08:03.367 --> 00:08:08.100 Avenue onee Avenue. Um, essential characteristics of 00:08:08.100 --> 00:08:10.200 the neighborhood. This request would not alter the essential 00:08:10.200 --> 00:08:14.533 characteristic of the neighborhood. Similarly, the 00:08:14.533 --> 00:08:18.800 second variance request is for a reduced uh radius for the 00:08:18.800 --> 00:08:22.033 cul-de-sac on 108th Court. Uh, this request would require a 00:08:22.033 --> 00:08:25.000 deviation of 12 ft from the required 60-foot radius for 00:08:25.000 --> 00:08:29.634 cul-de-sacs. Uh, this, uh, request. For a reduced 00:08:29.634 --> 00:08:32.667 cul-de-sac radius meets the Minnesota State fire code and 00:08:32.667 --> 00:08:35.867 does allow the fire trucks to turn around at the end of the 00:08:35.867 --> 00:08:38.300 um cul-de-sac and is supported by the city engineer and the 00:08:38.300 --> 00:08:42.467 fire department. The access to the northwest corner um is 00:08:42.467 --> 00:08:47.100 limited due to the prohibited access on on Highway 169 and 00:08:47.100 --> 00:08:50.467 limited access on 109th Avenue. These unique limitations 00:08:50.467 --> 00:08:54.033 necessitate a cul-de-sac, which reduces the developable area, 00:08:54.033 --> 00:08:57.367 um, which makes the unique case for this property. The request 00:08:57.367 --> 00:08:59.734 would not alter the essential characteristic of the 00:08:59.734 --> 00:09:04.100 neighborhood either. Staff, uh, recommends approval of the 00:09:04.100 --> 00:09:06.800 preliminary plot and the variances with conditions as 00:09:06.800 --> 00:09:10.100 listed in the draft resolutions and this concludes staff’s 00:09:10.100 --> 00:09:23.533 presentation. Thank you. All right, we will open it up for 00:09:23.533 --> 00:09:27.300 public hearing at this time. It’s anyone that would like to 00:09:27.300 --> 00:09:36.233 speak to this item. All right. If you will, go to the podium, 00:09:36.233 --> 00:09:49.000 uh, state your name, address. I am Margaret Schoolisters. My 00:09:49.000 --> 00:09:51.834 address is 8225109th Place North. I’m in Champlain, but my 00:09:51.834 --> 00:09:57.634 backyard. will be across the street from what’s going up, so 00:09:57.634 --> 00:10:03.500 my question is what are they planning on putting in? Thank 00:10:03.500 --> 00:10:28.533 you. All right, uh, anyone else? My name is Bonnie O’Brien. I am 00:10:28.533 --> 00:10:33.000 at 8203109th Place North. I am on the corner of Xylon Lane and 00:10:33.000 --> 00:10:37.000 109th. So I have a couple of different questions. The first 00:10:37.000 --> 00:10:40.867 one I also would like to know what the plan is on the 00:10:40.867 --> 00:10:47.734 business is going in here. Um, it looks like the Cul de sac is 00:10:47.734 --> 00:10:52.533 small, so. In the past meetings that we’ve been to, they’ve 00:10:52.533 --> 00:10:56.300 talked about strip malls, gas stations, restaurants, 00:10:56.300 --> 00:11:01.100 nightclubs, yadda yada, and so I’m, I was kind of surprised to 00:11:01.100 --> 00:11:06.000 see that small cul-de-sac, so has that plan changed? Um, and 00:11:06.000 --> 00:11:11.367 the other thing that was said it was about Uh, calming 00:11:11.367 --> 00:11:14.467 traffic and not being a cut through. I don’t understand 00:11:14.467 --> 00:11:18.834 that, so I’d like a little more explanation on that. And does 00:11:18.834 --> 00:11:23.567 that also mean the plan for Zealand would be a right in, 00:11:23.567 --> 00:11:26.734 right out, and or just a write in and then everybody goes out 00:11:26.734 --> 00:11:32.634 on. Ceylon Lane, which would increase our traffic flow 00:11:32.634 --> 00:11:36.367 exponentially, and so I would like to know those answers. 00:11:36.367 --> 00:11:46.934 Awesome. Thank you. All right. Anyone else from the public 00:11:46.934 --> 00:11:55.000 that would like to speak to this item? Not seeing any uh 00:11:55.000 --> 00:12:01.467 we’ll close the public portion of it, uh. Opening up to uh 00:12:01.467 --> 00:12:05.166 planning um uh commissioners, but staff, if you don’t mind, 00:12:05.166 --> 00:12:09.533 uh, responding to those uh. couple of questions. Yes, thank 00:12:09.533 --> 00:12:13.300 you, Chan and the public, um, the first question is what are 00:12:13.300 --> 00:12:16.400 the uses? I will say that this application is for a 00:12:16.400 --> 00:12:19.100 preliminary plot variances, not for the site plan. However, we 00:12:19.100 --> 00:12:23.934 do have an open application for a car wash at the corner of um 00:12:23.934 --> 00:12:27.100 169 and 1109th in this area, um, it is a conditional use that 00:12:27.100 --> 00:12:30.367 will be coming in the near future and would be happy to 00:12:30.367 --> 00:12:33.000 address any concerns with that application at that time. Um, 00:12:33.000 --> 00:12:36.867 as far as the traffic uh conversations, so there’s a 00:12:36.867 --> 00:12:39.934 three-quarter access that will be going on from Zealand to 00:12:39.934 --> 00:12:42.934 109th. So as you’re coming up Zealand towards Champlain, you 00:12:42.934 --> 00:12:46.767 would be able to turn right but not left. So this would direct 00:12:46.767 --> 00:12:50.133 traffic to Xylon to then um enter 109th at the traffic 00:12:50.133 --> 00:12:53.834 light, um, and then folks would be able to enter from 109th um 00:12:53.834 --> 00:12:56.467 as they head east, they would be able to turn right into that 00:12:56.467 --> 00:13:06.634 area. Awesome. Thank you. No other further plan with the 00:13:06.634 --> 00:13:12.934 other, uh, plots do not have an open application at this time. 00:13:12.934 --> 00:13:18.800 And the uh not knowing that plan, um, I know, uh, you 00:13:18.800 --> 00:13:23.100 mentioned that the city engineer reviewed the 00:13:23.100 --> 00:13:28.467 cul-de-sac and uh currently. Uh, find it acceptable, although we 00:13:28.467 --> 00:13:34.400 don’t know what’s going to go. to those other parcels, uh, 00:13:34.400 --> 00:13:37.533 right now, right? Yes, thank you, Chan. Yes, so the 00:13:37.533 --> 00:13:41.667 cul-de-sac, um, being a 48 ft radius would allow for the fire 00:13:41.667 --> 00:13:43.934 apparatus to turn around, and that’s the main consideration 00:13:43.934 --> 00:13:49.900 of the cul-de-sac. Right. It’s uh, any other planning 00:13:49.900 --> 00:13:57.300 commissioners. I won. Well, the higher apparatus might be able 00:13:57.300 --> 00:14:01.533 to turn around if there’s that many things in that cul-de-sac, 00:14:01.533 --> 00:14:04.900 there could be the need for more than one. How would you 00:14:04.900 --> 00:14:12.133 address An ambulance, more fire trucks. You know, for that. 00:14:12.133 --> 00:14:21.834 Seems tiny. Is there rules around that? Chenisher Burke, 00:14:21.834 --> 00:14:26.100 is your question, Commissioner? What would be the scenario if 00:14:26.100 --> 00:14:28.900 there were multiple emergency vehicles. Is that that the 00:14:28.900 --> 00:14:32.000 minimum standard is that fire truck can turn around, or is 00:14:32.000 --> 00:14:37.266 there concern for Well, you know, it just so happens this 00:14:37.266 --> 00:14:41.467 evening, uh, this is our lucky day and the fire is not usually 00:14:41.467 --> 00:14:47.667 at these meetings, but he, he is here where we needed more, 00:14:47.667 --> 00:14:50.767 so yeah, good evening, um, Chair Cavin, uh, commissioner 00:14:50.767 --> 00:14:53.934 Sean Conway, Fire Chief Brooklyn Park. Um, I appreciate 00:14:53.934 --> 00:14:56.000 your question, especially because of the consideration of 00:14:56.000 --> 00:14:59.200 uh of a cul de sac. Because these aren’t typically small 00:14:59.200 --> 00:15:05.000 vehicles. The turning radius gets. Complicated based on the 00:15:05.000 --> 00:15:08.734 size of the vehicle. And so our largest vehicle is a ladder 00:15:08.734 --> 00:15:13.166 truck, which we have begun to design, um, now with rear steer 00:15:13.166 --> 00:15:18.000 to, to enable us to have sharper turns or to reduce the 00:15:18.000 --> 00:15:22.233 footprint of cul de sacs or turnarounds. When there’s more 00:15:22.233 --> 00:15:25.900 than one vehicle, what we would do is we would take one side of 00:15:25.900 --> 00:15:29.634 the road, um, to try to, in this case, we don’t have to 00:15:29.634 --> 00:15:32.367 worry about cross traffic, but. We would take one side of the 00:15:32.367 --> 00:15:36.634 road and try to keep all the apparatus to one side, um, but 00:15:36.634 --> 00:15:41.800 as far as an emergencies who responds multiple police cars, 00:15:41.800 --> 00:15:46.634 an ambulance if it’s a medical, multiple fire engines, a ladder 00:15:46.634 --> 00:15:52.000 truck, and a battalion chief and so as long as the 00:15:52.000 --> 00:15:54.834 circumference, if you will, of the cul-de-sac meets the 00:15:54.834 --> 00:15:59.100 turning radius for our largest apparatus, which it does, um, 00:15:59.100 --> 00:16:01.667 then we would support that. And is it a no parking zone on the 00:16:01.667 --> 00:16:07.467 streets. Yes, thank you, Chair gave and commissioner. Yes, 00:16:07.467 --> 00:16:20.867 there will be no parking posted on both sides of both streets. 00:16:20.867 --> 00:16:27.266 All right, and uh this parcel is zoned what? I forget. 00:16:27.266 --> 00:16:29.133 Cherhaven members of the commission, this is zoned 00:16:29.133 --> 00:16:39.166 business park. Business part. All right awesome. Any other 00:16:39.166 --> 00:16:45.000 planning commissioner. All right, there are 3 motions on 00:16:45.000 --> 00:16:51.233 here. So we would need to take 3 actions here. Can I get a 00:16:51.233 --> 00:17:19.033 motion for? The first one Commissioner. So Yeah. Um 00:17:19.033 --> 00:17:23.467 Motion to recommend approval of a preliminary plan. For North 00:17:23.467 --> 00:17:28.767 Park Business Center. 10th edition at the corner of 109th 00:17:28.767 --> 00:17:35.634 Avenue North. And highway 169 for the creation of two lots. 00:17:35.634 --> 00:17:43.100 Alright, can I get a second? Right, motion has been made by 00:17:43.100 --> 00:17:48.934 Commissioner Oda split second, um, any other discussion? All 00:17:48.934 --> 00:18:03.367 right, all in favor say aye. I tried that. I won’t. any oppose 00:18:03.367 --> 00:18:11.367 All right, motion carries for the first one. All right, uh, 00:18:11.367 --> 00:18:15.133 Commissioner, you gonna make it the second motion. OK go ahead. 00:18:15.133 --> 00:18:24.734 Um Motion to adopt findings of facts for the approval of a 00:18:24.734 --> 00:18:30.533 variance request for a 50-foot public right of way. Forland 00:18:30.533 --> 00:18:34.300 Avenue and 108th court. Subject to the conditions in the draft 00:18:34.300 --> 00:18:39.800 resolution. All right, motion has been made, uh, can I get a 00:18:39.800 --> 00:18:47.734 second? All right, motion has been made, uh, has been a 2nd 00:18:47.734 --> 00:18:54.100 any further? Discussion? This, this motion. All right, can I 00:18:54.100 --> 00:18:58.000 get a vote, uh, here, all in favor say aye, aye. Any opposed? 00:18:58.000 --> 00:19:09.100 All right, motion carries. the 3rd motion to adopt findings of 00:19:09.100 --> 00:19:15.000 fact for the approval of a variance request for a 48 ft 00:19:15.000 --> 00:19:19.200 radius called the sac on 108th court, subject to the 00:19:19.200 --> 00:19:24.000 conditions in the draft resolution. Alright. Motion’s 00:19:24.000 --> 00:19:27.634 been made, it has been 2nd. Any further discussion on this item? 00:19:27.634 --> 00:19:34.166 All right, if that, uh, uh, can I get a vote, uh, all in favor. 00:19:34.166 --> 00:19:40.500 Say aye, aye. Any oppose? All right, motion carries. Thank 00:19:40.500 --> 00:19:53.867 you. And uh any uh uh obviously, uh, You mentioned uh possible 00:19:53.867 --> 00:19:59.800 car wash, so any, uh, future, uh, plans for those lots will 00:19:59.800 --> 00:20:05.100 come to this, uh, commission and, uh, we’ll. Uh, say nay or 00:20:05.100 --> 00:20:13.100 yeah on what that that business is. OK All right, let’s move to 00:20:13.100 --> 00:20:18.467 the next agenda item, uh, 5.2. Good evening Charhaven and 00:20:18.467 --> 00:20:20.567 members of the planning commission for the record, 00:20:20.567 --> 00:20:23.233 Aaron McDermott, senior planner with the planning division. 00:20:23.233 --> 00:20:27.000 Tonight I’m presenting a site plan review, case number 25105 00:20:27.000 --> 00:20:30.867 for the Brooklyn Fire Station #2, or as it’s known. Uh, more 00:20:30.867 --> 00:20:33.133 commonly through the city of Brooklyn Park, the Central Fire 00:20:33.133 --> 00:20:36.734 Station. Uh, this site is located in the central portion 00:20:36.734 --> 00:20:39.567 of the city west of the community activity center and 00:20:39.567 --> 00:20:43.000 City Hall. The applicant is requesting approval of a site 00:20:43.000 --> 00:20:44.734 plan review for the construction of a new fire 00:20:44.734 --> 00:20:47.900 station on a vacant property that was previously the site of 00:20:47.900 --> 00:20:54.200 the Hennepin County Library. The subject properties of 8500 00:20:54.200 --> 00:20:58.467 and 8600 Zane Avenue are a combined 8.5 acres. The 00:20:58.467 --> 00:21:01.133 proposed development is located on the corner of Edinburgh 00:21:01.133 --> 00:21:04.900 Terrace and Zane Avenue. Um, as you can see in front of you, 00:21:04.900 --> 00:21:08.634 the property outlined in yellow is the primary location that 00:21:08.634 --> 00:21:14.467 the majority of the structure will be built on. um. On 00:21:14.467 --> 00:21:16.734 combined these two lots, um, it will be combined with a lot 00:21:16.734 --> 00:21:21.033 south of it, where the Pico building is, and so there will 00:21:21.033 --> 00:21:25.734 be two buildings. It’ll result in 2 buildings on that lot. The 00:21:25.734 --> 00:21:28.400 site is on PI public institution, as are the 00:21:28.400 --> 00:21:31.634 properties to the south and the east. The adjacent properties 00:21:31.634 --> 00:21:35.400 to the West Susan Avenue are zone R4, multiple family 00:21:35.400 --> 00:21:38.100 residential, and the properties in the Northwest and southeast 00:21:38.100 --> 00:21:41.734 corners of Zane and 85th Avenue are zone B2 neighborhood retail. 00:21:41.734 --> 00:21:51.367 Um, this where did we go? Missing a slide. Um Here’s a 00:21:51.367 --> 00:21:54.533 detailed plan of the project to be considered tonight. This 00:21:54.533 --> 00:21:57.734 image shows the stormwater pond in the northwest corner with 00:21:57.734 --> 00:22:00.500 public parking area on the north side of the building and 00:22:00.500 --> 00:22:05.100 access. Um, to that public portion on Edinbrook Terrace 00:22:05.100 --> 00:22:07.367 with the parking for fire department staff on the 00:22:07.367 --> 00:22:10.533 southeast of the building and a dry aisle adequate for 00:22:10.533 --> 00:22:15.000 maneuvering fire trucks, um, with the fire truck access that 00:22:15.000 --> 00:22:20.200 will be uh for emergencies on to Zane, um. The city is 00:22:20.200 --> 00:22:24.000 currently working out a agreement with Hennepin County, 00:22:24.000 --> 00:22:27.734 who owns Zane, um, that will be lighted to ensure safety as 00:22:27.734 --> 00:22:33.133 fire trucks exit this facility. Um Here’s a rendering of the 00:22:33.133 --> 00:22:36.533 proposed structure from the northwest. Rendering from the 00:22:36.533 --> 00:22:42.734 west. rendering from the southwest. And from the south 00:22:42.734 --> 00:22:44.934 and I don’t know where the overall site plan went, but it 00:22:44.934 --> 00:22:51.300 indicates. shows about Um Where the combination of the lots 00:22:51.300 --> 00:22:58.200 will be. Um, because the As you can see, the drive aisle, um, 00:22:58.200 --> 00:23:01.100 as it goes south of the building, it does also extend 00:23:01.100 --> 00:23:04.300 in, so there will be access to the community activity center 00:23:04.300 --> 00:23:08.200 parking lot. So it’ll be circular, all of the city’s 00:23:08.200 --> 00:23:13.567 properties will be navigable. Um, and interconnected. Staff 00:23:13.567 --> 00:23:15.834 recommends approval of the site plan review with conditions as 00:23:15.834 --> 00:23:18.567 listed in the draft resolution, and this concludes staff’s 00:23:18.567 --> 00:23:29.533 presentation. Thanks. All right, we will open it up to the 00:23:29.533 --> 00:23:31.900 public, uh, anyone from the public that would like to speak 00:23:31.900 --> 00:23:39.367 to this item? All right. Now, uh, send anyone, uh, we’ll 00:23:39.367 --> 00:23:44.500 close the public portion of it and uh open it up to uh the 00:23:44.500 --> 00:23:49.300 planning commissioners for, for comment. Uh, my, my first one, 00:23:49.300 --> 00:23:53.734 so the, um, City engineer, they’ve reviewed the plans and 00:23:53.734 --> 00:23:57.867 they reviewed the plans and looks like the water is 00:23:57.867 --> 00:24:01.233 draining to Zane, the storm water is draining to Zane off 00:24:01.233 --> 00:24:08.000 the lot. Uh, is that? Acceptable Thank you tricky and 00:24:08.000 --> 00:24:11.100 members of the planning commission, um, so they are 00:24:11.100 --> 00:24:14.400 working, they’ve worked with our water resources engineer 00:24:14.400 --> 00:24:20.266 and assistant city engineer on this, um. The Drainage does not 00:24:20.266 --> 00:24:25.100 actually go onto zane the. There’s I might need your help 00:24:25.100 --> 00:24:29.934 with this, but, um, it does go to the creek that is on the 00:24:29.934 --> 00:24:33.634 south side of the residential. If you look at the very north 00:24:33.634 --> 00:24:36.900 portion of this map where there’s that very long thin 00:24:36.900 --> 00:24:41.634 parcel of the water is directed towards that area. Good evening, 00:24:41.634 --> 00:24:44.800 chair and commissioners, um, Brooke Jacobson was senior 00:24:44.800 --> 00:24:47.567 architects, um, to answer your question, uh, we’ve had uh a 00:24:47.567 --> 00:24:51.133 little bit of change in that as we’ve been working with the 00:24:51.133 --> 00:24:54.934 city engineers that everything is um going into that pond and 00:24:54.934 --> 00:25:00.467 then tying into the existing uh uh uh system in that runs along 00:25:00.467 --> 00:25:03.467 parallel with the street. So there’s actually an existing 00:25:03.467 --> 00:25:06.867 catch basin, right at the edge of the property off of um 00:25:06.867 --> 00:25:10.467 Edinbrook. Uh, you kind of the north edge of the parking lot, 00:25:10.467 --> 00:25:12.734 that will be replacing that catch basin cause we need it to 00:25:12.734 --> 00:25:16.367 be, uh, a different elevation, but we’ll be tying into the 00:25:16.367 --> 00:25:20.100 existing system from the pond there. And then it will follow, 00:25:20.100 --> 00:25:26.533 um, the current system. OK, so, um, Correct me if I’m wrong 00:25:26.533 --> 00:25:32.467 here, um, so, um, after, let’s say an event, right, uh, 00:25:32.467 --> 00:25:37.200 they’re contaminants on the uh uh fire truck and do we need to 00:25:37.200 --> 00:25:40.900 wash that fire truck and so that is those contaminants are 00:25:40.900 --> 00:25:44.734 running into that pond. Is it, I don’t see a filter of any 00:25:44.734 --> 00:25:48.367 kind. Yeah, so when the apparatus are returning to site, 00:25:48.367 --> 00:25:53.100 they’ll wash inside the building, and that will go into 00:25:53.100 --> 00:25:55.000 um the system inside the building, so it won’t be going 00:25:55.000 --> 00:26:01.133 into that pond. Got it. So there are uh uh filtering 00:26:01.133 --> 00:26:05.934 system inside the building that will. Uh, capture that, if you 00:26:05.934 --> 00:26:09.133 will, dirty water. Yeah, there’s a all the trans strains 00:26:09.133 --> 00:26:13.400 tie into a flammable waste trap in the apparatus space and then, 00:26:13.400 --> 00:26:16.266 uh, from there moves on into the sanitary system. Sounds 00:26:16.266 --> 00:26:25.200 great. Awesome. Um, and then are we, uh, uh, uh, have we 00:26:25.200 --> 00:26:28.400 taken into consideration sustainability on this building 00:26:28.400 --> 00:26:32.767 here from, you know, I don’t see like solar panels or, you 00:26:32.767 --> 00:26:42.800 know, uh. Uh, uh, if you will, um. Uh Rainwater, uh, retention 00:26:42.800 --> 00:26:46.500 or, or utilization, so yeah, so we’re looking at a few things. 00:26:46.500 --> 00:26:50.800 We are, um, planning for the roof to be solar ready. So 00:26:50.800 --> 00:26:53.100 while we’re not planning to immediately install, we’re 00:26:53.100 --> 00:26:55.133 planning the structure to be able to support so when the 00:26:55.133 --> 00:26:59.400 city is ready to install, um, solar panels, they can be set 00:26:59.400 --> 00:27:03.634 on the roof of the apparatus space. Um, and then we have a 00:27:03.634 --> 00:27:09.100 variety of things within the building, um, LED lighting, um, 00:27:09.100 --> 00:27:12.400 efficient boilers. Uh, uh, other sides of sustainability. 00:27:12.400 --> 00:27:16.533 We have a lot of windows bringing in natural light to 00:27:16.533 --> 00:27:19.200 better the quality of the occupant’s experience, things 00:27:19.200 --> 00:27:24.100 of that nature. Awesome. So the rough, uh, well, that, uh, is 00:27:24.100 --> 00:27:28.367 that an asphalt or is that a white roof or, uh, that we’re 00:27:28.367 --> 00:27:32.467 putting on. Um, we’re kind of going back and forth, I believe, 00:27:32.467 --> 00:27:36.367 um, uh, Owen M would like to see a built-up roof is where we 00:27:36.367 --> 00:27:38.934 were starting from. I think that’s kind of the standard of 00:27:38.934 --> 00:27:41.734 what’s been happening in the city, but we’re also weighing 00:27:41.734 --> 00:27:46.467 that against current, um, costs and uh so we’re kind of going 00:27:46.467 --> 00:27:50.367 back and forth right now. Sounds great. And this isn’t a 00:27:50.367 --> 00:27:54.634 like Of commercial kitchen or anything where you need grease 00:27:54.634 --> 00:27:59.634 traps and. No, they’ll have high-end residential appliances 00:27:59.634 --> 00:28:03.367 in in their kitchen. Perfect. Awesome. All right, I’ll be 00:28:03.367 --> 00:28:11.500 quiet. Um Uh, just out of curiosity, um, how many fire 00:28:11.500 --> 00:28:16.800 trucks would be, um, Utilizing the building. What was the 00:28:16.800 --> 00:28:19.100 building? How, how many trucks would, you know, will be held 00:28:19.100 --> 00:28:22.367 in this building? I’m gonna turn that over to the fire 00:28:22.367 --> 00:28:31.233 chief. He can better answer that question for you. Um, 00:28:31.233 --> 00:28:35.734 chair cabin commissioners. This first station is being built, 00:28:35.734 --> 00:28:40.266 excuse me. Not just as a standalone, but also to have 00:28:40.266 --> 00:28:44.300 the ability because we have, uh, the fire station infrastructure 00:28:44.300 --> 00:28:48.266 plan where we do need to replace the remaining 3 and 00:28:48.266 --> 00:28:52.634 consider the construction of a 5th fire station. It will be 00:28:52.634 --> 00:28:55.734 housing once that plan is instituted, it will be housing. 00:28:55.734 --> 00:29:01.100 In a sense, cruises from two fire stations into this one. So, 00:29:01.100 --> 00:29:05.900 initially before that process happens, there are going to be, 00:29:05.900 --> 00:29:10.900 uh, between 5 and 7 frontline, uh, emergency apparatus to 00:29:10.900 --> 00:29:16.800 include Engines, a ladder, a reserve ladder, uh, incident 00:29:16.800 --> 00:29:19.934 command vehicle and the mobile command post that’s shared, um, 00:29:19.934 --> 00:29:34.133 with police and fire. Thank you. Yes, sir. Uh, just to follow up, 00:29:34.133 --> 00:29:40.734 uh, first of all, uh. Uh, fire chief, how are you? Um There is 00:29:40.734 --> 00:29:44.300 an indication in the writing that 85, there is a way to get 00:29:44.300 --> 00:29:52.467 to a fibs. Also that through. Through the current community 00:29:52.467 --> 00:29:55.233 activity, you know, the way that takes to the community 00:29:55.233 --> 00:30:00.533 activity center or is this uh? Uh, going to be new, new route 00:30:00.533 --> 00:30:06.767 that takes to, you know, where is access from the 85ths. Yes, 00:30:06.767 --> 00:30:11.000 commissioner, we’ve also, this fire station project is. Really 00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:16.400 in a sense, enhancing this West campus development, uh, when we 00:30:16.400 --> 00:30:19.100 consider the other uses of the buildings on, on the West 00:30:19.100 --> 00:30:22.300 campus, if you will, PA, the proposed senior center, which 00:30:22.300 --> 00:30:28.133 is the current central fire station. And then how the CAC 00:30:28.133 --> 00:30:35.100 is to be, uh, developed for a West access, um, People 00:30:35.100 --> 00:30:38.266 entering the campus, if you will, will be able to enter it 00:30:38.266 --> 00:30:42.567 itself from Eden Brook and north from eighty-fifth. Um, 00:30:42.567 --> 00:30:47.934 and that would be the only access to the campus for the 00:30:47.934 --> 00:30:52.133 general public, uh, the only access on the Zane is going to 00:30:52.133 --> 00:30:55.867 be from the fire station for emergency vehicles only. The 00:30:55.867 --> 00:30:59.634 county is very specific on the requirements. That’s why under 00:30:59.634 --> 00:31:06.533 the current configuration, the PICA staff and uh people using 00:31:06.533 --> 00:31:10.467 that facility currently enters on Or enters into the complex 00:31:10.467 --> 00:31:14.233 from Zane, just north of 85th there. That is going to have to 00:31:14.233 --> 00:31:18.367 be closed because the county will only allow one entrance. 00:31:18.367 --> 00:31:23.634 We have been in contact with uh the. PiCA staff and Director 00:31:23.634 --> 00:31:29.000 Rico, um, this actually helps. Him and his staff because right 00:31:29.000 --> 00:31:33.467 now, majority of the the buses have to go south on Zane, but 00:31:33.467 --> 00:31:36.667 currently they have to make a right turn heading northbound 00:31:36.667 --> 00:31:40.900 on Zan. Take a right turn heading eastbound on Edenbrook 00:31:40.900 --> 00:31:44.000 and then go all the way down across City Hall here to get 00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:47.667 back to 85th to go westbound and then to go south on Zane. 00:31:47.667 --> 00:31:50.867 But now what we’ll be able to do is open up that access 00:31:50.867 --> 00:31:53.000 between the current central fire station and PICCA where 00:31:53.000 --> 00:31:55.767 they’re just gonna be able to drive through that parking area 00:31:55.767 --> 00:31:58.367 right there and then enter on the eighty-fifth to take a 00:31:58.367 --> 00:32:02.200 right turn and then into a left turn for Zane. Um, going 00:32:02.200 --> 00:32:06.800 southbound. So I know that’s a lot of information, but really 00:32:06.800 --> 00:32:09.166 to summarize that, there’s really two access points to the 00:32:09.166 --> 00:32:14.100 West campus and that’s. From 85th and from Eden Brook 00:32:14.100 --> 00:32:21.367 Terrace. OK. How, how’s the You know, the head starts. You know, 00:32:21.367 --> 00:32:24.033 are they consulted, or, you know, are they, you know, how 00:32:24.033 --> 00:32:30.000 would Their operations be impacted. Yes, commissioner, uh, 00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:33.634 I’ve had, uh, conversations with their staff and, and 00:32:33.634 --> 00:32:37.867 Convers conversations with uh the director as the plans get 00:32:37.867 --> 00:32:41.100 developed and approved and this is a very positive relationship. 00:32:41.100 --> 00:32:46.367 They have been part of that that planning, uh, he 00:32:46.367 --> 00:32:48.100 understands the access and I would just like to refer back 00:32:48.100 --> 00:32:54.467 to what I was saying. It helps, helps him and his team to be 00:32:54.467 --> 00:32:58.734 able to um to. Now get on eighty-fifth to go south on 00:32:58.734 --> 00:33:03.667 Zane. Zane’s a busy street, and for the buses to be coming out 00:33:03.667 --> 00:33:06.800 that way. We do have a fair amount of accidents at 85th and 00:33:06.800 --> 00:33:12.033 Zane, um, but this is going to be very helpful for his staff 00:33:12.033 --> 00:33:17.367 to not have to drive around the block to go south on Zane. Yeah 00:33:17.367 --> 00:33:31.166 Thank you. I just reading the narrative ments, um, 00:33:31.166 --> 00:33:36.533 firefighters, uh, health features, um, I’m familiar with, 00:33:36.533 --> 00:33:42.400 uh, NFPA, um. Are you saying that, uh, are we saying that 00:33:42.400 --> 00:33:48.834 there will be health care services at The firefighter, 00:33:48.834 --> 00:33:53.634 including like oxygen gas and like a clinic setting. Uh, 00:33:53.634 --> 00:33:57.367 Chair Calvin, no, there won’t be those services, um, when we 00:33:57.367 --> 00:33:59.533 look at health and wellness initiatives for our fire 00:33:59.533 --> 00:34:03.834 department, our current fire stations don’t meet those 00:34:03.834 --> 00:34:07.467 initiatives, um, when those fire stations were built, they 00:34:07.467 --> 00:34:13.367 were not designed for, uh, continuous. Uh, use, it was a 00:34:13.367 --> 00:34:16.667 paid on call fire department model, people weren’t living 00:34:16.667 --> 00:34:22.467 there, um. 24/7, 365 days out of the year like we are now so 00:34:22.467 --> 00:34:26.200 those health and wellness aspects of cancer reduction 00:34:26.200 --> 00:34:31.033 initiatives, uh, removing diesel particulates, bringing 00:34:31.033 --> 00:34:35.367 the, the living quarters closer to the apparatus so we can 00:34:35.367 --> 00:34:40.634 reduce response times. Um, to include, um, just even the 00:34:40.634 --> 00:34:44.734 wellness of, of staff or natural lighting specific 00:34:44.734 --> 00:34:48.266 colors, uh, not having carpet in some of the areas that 00:34:48.266 --> 00:34:51.800 otherwise, um, trap contaminants and then that just 00:34:51.800 --> 00:34:56.634 when they get kicked up, people are breathing that um our 00:34:56.634 --> 00:34:59.900 stations currently just do not support any of those. Wellness 00:34:59.900 --> 00:35:03.133 area, um, the health and wellness aspects of the current 00:35:03.133 --> 00:35:06.867 designs. Sounds great, yeah, I, uh, I would imagine you’re uh 00:35:06.867 --> 00:35:11.533 got a great design team, engineering team, so they will 00:35:11.533 --> 00:35:16.400 design the HVAC systems to make sure those contaminates don’t. 00:35:16.400 --> 00:35:20.266 go all over into uh uh take care of our firefighters, if 00:35:20.266 --> 00:35:24.467 you will, so. Yes thank you they’re very good at their job, 00:35:24.467 --> 00:35:28.133 we’re very blessed to have them as part of our team and we’re 00:35:28.133 --> 00:35:31.367 getting into like negative pressure areas positive 00:35:31.367 --> 00:35:35.100 pressure areas, um, it’s very, these buildings now are, are 00:35:35.100 --> 00:35:42.000 highly scientific. Awesome. All right, Commissioner Turner. 00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:45.667 Thank you. Uh, my question is related to utilities. I saw 00:35:45.667 --> 00:35:49.133 that we have our uh sewer and water. There was no mention of 00:35:49.133 --> 00:35:53.233 electric and gas. Well we maintain electric and gas gas, 00:35:53.233 --> 00:35:56.634 and we’re looking at more of a sustainable, um, something 00:35:56.634 --> 00:35:59.734 that’s more all all electric or um what, what is the plan for 00:35:59.734 --> 00:36:07.100 that? For apparatus for plants that just like general 00:36:07.100 --> 00:36:11.367 appliances or yeah, um, I think we have a mixture of both gas 00:36:11.367 --> 00:36:15.133 and and electric appliances, um, certain things, uh, like some 00:36:15.133 --> 00:36:18.400 of the we have gas grills, the gas range, but a lot of the 00:36:18.400 --> 00:36:21.567 other appliances were moving towards um the electrical side, 00:36:21.567 --> 00:36:25.266 so that part of as Chief was just talking about on the 00:36:25.266 --> 00:36:27.400 health and wellness side is, you know, not having as much 00:36:27.400 --> 00:36:39.367 gas in the building as well. OK. All right, well someone like to 00:36:39.367 --> 00:36:48.367 make a motion. Oh Commissioner Uh I make a motion, uh, 00:36:48.367 --> 00:36:55.133 approving a site plan review for the Construction of a 00:36:55.133 --> 00:36:59.000 public facility at 86,000 Avenue North. Right, the motion 00:36:59.000 --> 00:37:04.300 has been made. Can I get a second? Motion has been 2nd. Um, 00:37:04.300 --> 00:37:10.166 any further discussion? But I just, I just wanna add on, you 00:37:10.166 --> 00:37:14.400 know, this is a really a great project for the city and uh. 00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:18.200 Just want to command, you know, the chief, uh, for what has 00:37:18.200 --> 00:37:20.834 happened, you know, two weeks ago, maybe this is appropriate 00:37:20.834 --> 00:37:26.734 time to say thank you and uh that is really tremendous 00:37:26.734 --> 00:37:30.400 achievement to respond within that short period of time, so 00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:34.133 this is uh overdue project that’s we need in the city. And 00:37:34.133 --> 00:37:39.533 uh this is a great time. Thank you. Well said. Well said. All 00:37:39.533 --> 00:37:43.800 right, uh, let’s vote, all in favor, say aye. right. Any 00:37:43.800 --> 00:37:50.200 opposed? All right. Motion carries. So this is going to 00:37:50.200 --> 00:37:55.634 the city council when? We were hoping that it was gonna go 00:37:55.634 --> 00:38:01.400 Monday but we’re going to move it to May 12th. It’ll go to um 00:38:01.400 --> 00:38:03.567 city council, I think you’re talking about the financial 00:38:03.567 --> 00:38:07.800 side of things, but I’m not, I’m sorry, yes, thank you. I 00:38:07.800 --> 00:38:10.934 should be talking the site, the site plan review will go on 00:38:10.934 --> 00:38:16.467 April 28th. Yeah, April 28th April 20th. Yeah. All right, 00:38:16.467 --> 00:38:22.734 perfect. Thank you. Thank you All right, let’s move to the 00:38:22.734 --> 00:38:33.634 next agenda item of 5.3. OK. could even again check even and 00:38:33.634 --> 00:38:35.533 members of the planning commission again for the record, 00:38:35.533 --> 00:38:39.266 Kara Donovan, senior planner, um, tonight I am also 00:38:39.266 --> 00:38:43.100 presenting the preliminary plot and site plan application as 00:38:43.100 --> 00:38:48.266 this number 25-106 for 60 610 junction Building 4, the 00:38:48.266 --> 00:38:53.667 applicant proposes one building and one new, newly created lot. 00:38:53.667 --> 00:38:58.467 The site is located at the end of 95th Avenue, just west of 00:38:58.467 --> 00:39:04.367 100 Highway 169 and north of 93rd Avenue. The subject 00:39:04.367 --> 00:39:08.100 property is 6.4 acres and a bus commercial property to the west 00:39:08.100 --> 00:39:11.200 and highway infrastructure to the north, northeast, um, and 00:39:11.200 --> 00:39:17.200 South. The parcel is own business park district and the 00:39:17.200 --> 00:39:20.400 property to the west is also zoned business park and the 00:39:20.400 --> 00:39:23.100 areas to the northeast and south are highways and or on 00:39:23.100 --> 00:39:29.500 ramps. The applicant is requesting approval for a 00:39:29.500 --> 00:39:31.400 preliminary plot for the creation of one lot as seen on 00:39:31.400 --> 00:39:38.400 the screen. The site plan depicts the proposed industrial 00:39:38.400 --> 00:39:41.734 building, the applicant proposes an 8800 square foot 00:39:41.734 --> 00:39:44.934 building which can accommodate a single tenant or multiple 00:39:44.934 --> 00:39:47.233 tenants. Circulation is provided around the building 00:39:47.233 --> 00:39:50.800 with parking on the north and east. sides of the building and 00:39:50.800 --> 00:39:53.734 loading docks on the west side of the building. Stormwater 00:39:53.734 --> 00:39:55.634 infrastructure will be located in the southwest part of the 00:39:55.634 --> 00:40:00.533 property. The applicant provided elevations, as you can 00:40:00.533 --> 00:40:03.533 see on the screen that show the architecture of the proposed 00:40:03.533 --> 00:40:07.000 building. The building will largely consist of uh painted 00:40:07.000 --> 00:40:11.734 precast concrete panels, and they will also be buildings, um, 00:40:11.734 --> 00:40:16.400 uh, windows and metal canopies. Staff recommends approval of 00:40:16.400 --> 00:40:18.634 the preliminary plan and site plan with conditions as listed 00:40:18.634 --> 00:40:21.367 in the draft resolutions, and this concludes staff’s 00:40:21.367 --> 00:40:31.400 presentation. Awesome, thank you. Um We will open it up for 00:40:31.400 --> 00:40:33.634 the public. Anyone from the public that would like to speak 00:40:33.634 --> 00:40:44.200 to this item? and not saying any or hearing any. Uh, we’ll 00:40:44.200 --> 00:40:48.934 close the public portion of it and open it up to uh Um, 00:40:48.934 --> 00:41:00.767 planning commissioner. In the Comments here. I have one, the, 00:41:00.767 --> 00:41:08.834 uh, Or maybe I, I just sauce. For some reason, and when I 00:41:08.834 --> 00:41:12.634 looked at the plan, I, I saw the finish floor elevation at, 00:41:12.634 --> 00:41:20.000 uh, um, 888 and then I saw I thought I saw the uh one of the 00:41:20.000 --> 00:41:30.867 draining pond at 685. We’re not there will be um one stormwater 00:41:30.867 --> 00:41:34.000 basin and one, I believe it’s called Dry basin, um, on the 00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:38.300 north side, um, of the wet basin. Sounds great. Is this uh 00:41:38.300 --> 00:41:41.367 speculative or do we have a tenant? That’s going to go 00:41:41.367 --> 00:41:53.100 Inside Turkey is speculative at this time. Uh Sounds great and 00:41:53.100 --> 00:41:56.834 uh uh uh since I think the you guys owned the. Entire parcel, 00:41:56.834 --> 00:41:59.734 this is going to block the visibility of the signage of 00:41:59.734 --> 00:42:02.867 the existing tenants on the other, on the, if you will, 00:42:02.867 --> 00:42:08.634 west side. No comments from them, huh? I’m unsure of the 00:42:08.634 --> 00:42:12.800 answer to that, but I can get back to you. Sounds great. 00:42:12.800 --> 00:42:24.100 Awesome. I don’t have anything further. All right, uh, not 00:42:24.100 --> 00:42:29.400 seeing any uh other questions. Can I, oh. Commissioner Obama. 00:42:29.400 --> 00:42:36.467 Well, since, um this is speculative uh. What is your 00:42:36.467 --> 00:42:41.400 estimated time period before we can get out, you know, I’m just 00:42:41.400 --> 00:42:53.400 curious what’s uh What was the timeline like? Thank you, Chair. 00:42:53.400 --> 00:42:56.300 Commissioner members, uh, for the record, my name is Scott 00:42:56.300 --> 00:43:01.467 Clancy. I am with Arco Mur Design Build. Our address is 00:43:01.467 --> 00:43:05.133 4950 West 35th Street, Saint Louis Park, Minnesota, 55416 00:43:05.133 --> 00:43:07.800 and appreciate the question from, uh, commissioners tonight. 00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:11.533 Uh, currently are, uh, client who owns his property and is 00:43:11.533 --> 00:43:15.000 hired us to build this out is in negotiations with several 00:43:15.000 --> 00:43:18.467 tenants. Uh, they will be able to provide. More information on 00:43:18.467 --> 00:43:21.133 the timeline when we can expect those to be finalized, which we 00:43:21.133 --> 00:43:23.000 can follow up with city staff with, but I know they’re 00:43:23.000 --> 00:43:31.800 working on that right now. Yeah Thank you. Thank you And I 00:43:31.800 --> 00:43:37.133 thought, uh, uh, from, I guess the question from staff, uh. 00:43:37.133 --> 00:43:40.467 Maybe I can’t tell from this, but I thought there was uh a 00:43:40.467 --> 00:43:44.734 landscape requirement and I don’t see a landscape plan, uh, 00:43:44.734 --> 00:43:51.533 trees and uh How this is going to, you know. Look Yes. Thank 00:43:51.533 --> 00:43:56.367 you, they’re going to meet that, that the requirement per hour. 00:43:56.367 --> 00:43:59.533 cold, right? Yes, thank you, Chan and members of the 00:43:59.533 --> 00:44:01.367 planning commission. I, if it’s not included in the staff 00:44:01.367 --> 00:44:04.367 report, that’s my apologies. Um, they did provide us a 00:44:04.367 --> 00:44:08.100 landscaping plan and, um, provides screening on the south 00:44:08.100 --> 00:44:11.200 side of the building, um, as well as the east side of the 00:44:11.200 --> 00:44:13.367 building and meet the open space and landscaping 00:44:13.367 --> 00:44:20.467 requirements. OK. uh obviously fairly close to the highway, um, 00:44:20.467 --> 00:44:26.300 so. I don’t recall or I don’t see it like a pylon sign or a 00:44:26.300 --> 00:44:31.734 monument sign. Are you planning on uh Pylon or a monument. came 00:44:31.734 --> 00:44:36.900 in. I’ll say we do not allow pylon signs, but I’ll let the 00:44:36.900 --> 00:44:42.300 applicants speak. I like pylon. Well, no, it’s all good. Uh, 00:44:42.300 --> 00:44:44.367 chair commissioners, uh, thank you for the question. Uh, 00:44:44.367 --> 00:44:48.233 currently at this time, uh, given that the, uh, 610 00:44:48.233 --> 00:44:51.367 junction, obviously with the building for the, uh, our 00:44:51.367 --> 00:44:55.100 client owns the other 3 lots. We have the 610 junction at the 00:44:55.100 --> 00:44:59.367 end of the 95th, uh, street there kind of, um. Advertising 00:44:59.367 --> 00:45:02.800 the space itself, there isn’t any uh additional signage plan 00:45:02.800 --> 00:45:05.900 at this time that will be uh brought to planning commission 00:45:05.900 --> 00:45:08.000 and city council as these tenants are confirmed and they 00:45:08.000 --> 00:45:12.133 want to bring forward their potential signage plans, but no 00:45:12.133 --> 00:45:18.634 pylons or additional monument signs at this time. OK in as, 00:45:18.634 --> 00:45:25.000 uh, uh, I’m assuming that we’ve met with uh state. Highway 00:45:25.000 --> 00:45:28.200 transportation and they are OK with the setback lines, in 00:45:28.200 --> 00:45:33.233 particular, as you, uh, Uh, as you’re headed, uh eastbound on 00:45:33.233 --> 00:45:38.867 610, and you, you know, start going southbound on 169. It 00:45:38.867 --> 00:45:45.533 seems pretty close, uh, to, um, um. That, uh, uh, drive lane, 00:45:45.533 --> 00:45:48.400 and so they’re OK with the setback line, the state. Um, 00:45:48.400 --> 00:45:52.200 thank you, Curhan, and members of the planning commission. The 00:45:52.200 --> 00:45:54.367 um preliminary plot was sent. The site plan does not need to 00:45:54.367 --> 00:45:58.100 be sent to either um Binat or Hennepin County this 00:45:58.100 --> 00:46:00.734 preliminary plat was sent to both, um, Hennepin County did 00:46:00.734 --> 00:46:05.000 not have any comments and Mina has not replied at this time. 00:46:05.000 --> 00:46:07.834 But the application does meet all setback requirements for 00:46:07.834 --> 00:46:19.400 business park. Right Well, one question regarding to traffic. 00:46:19.400 --> 00:46:22.133 You know, maybe at this moment we don’t know how many tenants 00:46:22.133 --> 00:46:27.567 would be over there or what what would uh. Traffic, you 00:46:27.567 --> 00:46:34.100 know, um. Change might look like for the area. Yes, thank 00:46:34.100 --> 00:46:37.634 you. Thank you, Churk gave to members of the land commission. 00:46:37.634 --> 00:46:42.934 The transportation engineer has reviewed this site plan and 00:46:42.934 --> 00:46:46.233 does not have any concerns, but traffic will be routed down 00:46:46.233 --> 00:46:50.400 95th Avenue and then circulated throughout the site, um, and 00:46:50.400 --> 00:46:52.166 fire apparatus can wrap the whole site if we have any 00:46:52.166 --> 00:46:54.767 concerns about traffic. But traffic will be directed to 00:46:54.767 --> 00:47:09.200 95th Avenue. OK. Commissioner, or your oh sorry. No, no, no, 00:47:09.200 --> 00:47:13.867 that’s OK. All right, uh, any other questions? If not, there 00:47:13.867 --> 00:47:19.900 are 2 motions here. Can I get a motion for the first one? I do 00:47:19.900 --> 00:47:26.367 have a question. Go ahead. No, that’s right. I, I’m just I’m a 00:47:26.367 --> 00:47:31.266 guru. I mean, I, I, I’m just a geek for sustainability, right? 00:47:31.266 --> 00:47:35.800 I meant to ask that too. Let’s gas, the better. But I do see 00:47:35.800 --> 00:47:38.634 there’s a gas tank on the property currently. Is there 00:47:38.634 --> 00:47:43.834 any plans to remove that, to replace it with electric, uh, 00:47:43.834 --> 00:47:49.166 solar light, we moved in that direction. Uh, chair commission 00:47:49.166 --> 00:47:52.000 members, uh, thank you for the question, uh, to answer the 00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:54.500 specific question about the gas tank, the gas tank is being 00:47:54.500 --> 00:47:58.734 removed. Uh, this is a, a brand new site, uh, full grading, 00:47:58.734 --> 00:48:01.934 remodeling of everything on the site, um, as with a lot of 00:48:01.934 --> 00:48:03.834 these speculative buildings, the current thing that is being 00:48:03.834 --> 00:48:07.800 brought in right now is mostly electrical power. There is gas 00:48:07.800 --> 00:48:11.533 brought in for the unit heaters, uh, but typically it is up to 00:48:11.533 --> 00:48:15.033 the tenants that come in and fill up the spaces within this 00:48:15.033 --> 00:48:19.200 warehouse to kind of define and work with the city on that 00:48:19.200 --> 00:48:21.166 sustainability requirement, uh, for what it’s worth, I can’t 00:48:21.166 --> 00:48:24.467 speak a little bit to the solar readiness of the building. Uh, 00:48:24.467 --> 00:48:27.667 we’re very fortunate, uh, in, depending on how you look at it 00:48:27.667 --> 00:48:30.734 with our structural design here in the state of Minnesota, uh, 00:48:30.734 --> 00:48:34.033 with our snow loads and dead loads requirements. There is a, 00:48:34.033 --> 00:48:37.200 a natural solar readiness that comes with these type of 00:48:37.200 --> 00:48:39.000 speculative industrial buildings that is presentable 00:48:39.000 --> 00:48:42.000 to future tenants. If that helps answer the question. 00:48:42.000 --> 00:48:48.000 Thank you. The roof, what are you planning for the roof? What 00:48:48.000 --> 00:48:51.100 type of roof type? Yes, chair commissioners, thank you for 00:48:51.100 --> 00:48:53.266 the question. The type of roof right now is a built up TPO 00:48:53.266 --> 00:49:07.634 system. A. All right, uh, Can I get a motion? All right, thanks. 00:49:07.634 --> 00:49:14.100 I want you to recommend approval of the preliminary 00:49:14.100 --> 00:49:16.734 platform for 610 Junction Building 4 on the vacant 00:49:16.734 --> 00:49:22.100 property north of 93rd Avenue North and west of Highway 169. 00:49:22.100 --> 00:49:28.000 Alright, can I get a second? All right, uh Motion has been 00:49:28.000 --> 00:49:33.934 made, it has been 2nd, uh, any further discussion? All right, 00:49:33.934 --> 00:49:40.467 let’s uh vote all in favor? Aye. In your post? All right, motion 00:49:40.467 --> 00:49:47.100 carries. Next one. Motion to recommend approval of a site 00:49:47.100 --> 00:49:49.867 plan review for the construction of one industrial 00:49:49.867 --> 00:49:54.634 building, um, north of 93rd Avenue North and west of 169, 00:49:54.634 --> 00:49:57.867 subject to conditions contained in the draft resolution. All 00:49:57.867 --> 00:50:04.734 right, can I get a second? All right Ocean has been 2, a 00:50:04.734 --> 00:50:08.467 motion has been made. It has been second, um, any further 00:50:08.467 --> 00:50:15.033 discussion? All right, let’s vote. All in favor say aye. Any 00:50:15.033 --> 00:50:22.934 pose? Ocean carries. Right. Thank you. And thank you for 00:50:22.934 --> 00:50:28.266 your continued investment into Brooklyn Park. It’s awesome. 00:50:28.266 --> 00:50:37.867 All right, uh, let’s move to the next agenda item, uh, 6.1. 00:50:37.867 --> 00:50:41.100 Good evening, Charca and members of the commission. Paul 00:50:41.100 --> 00:50:46.000 Mulgar, planning director, um, you’ll recall that at last 00:50:46.000 --> 00:50:53.400 month’s meeting, um, staff brought forward. Uh A draft of 00:50:53.400 --> 00:50:57.233 this year’s bylaws for consideration, um, and it’s 00:50:57.233 --> 00:51:02.033 part of that conversation last month, uh, Commissioner Fraser 00:51:02.033 --> 00:51:05.634 raised the issue of some confusing language in the 00:51:05.634 --> 00:51:11.467 section related to a quorum. This is 4A. So on the left you 00:51:11.467 --> 00:51:15.734 have the language as it was in your packet last month. Um, I 00:51:15.734 --> 00:51:21.166 spent some time. With this, um, trying to figure out a 00:51:21.166 --> 00:51:24.867 recommendation for, um, dealing with that issue that 00:51:24.867 --> 00:51:28.100 Commissioner Fraser had raised, and in looking at this language, 00:51:28.100 --> 00:51:33.533 I found other, other problems with the language as well, um, 00:51:33.533 --> 00:51:36.100 notably that it wasn’t accounting for the fact that 00:51:36.100 --> 00:51:40.266 this is actually 99 member 9 member body. This is an 11 00:51:40.266 --> 00:51:43.533 member body with the inclusion of the two young adult seats 00:51:43.533 --> 00:51:46.900 that have yet to be filled, um, but we do have to consider that, 00:51:46.900 --> 00:51:51.100 of course. in the bylaws when determining the number of for a 00:51:51.100 --> 00:51:54.734 quorum. So in the language on the right that’s in your packet, 00:51:54.734 --> 00:51:58.100 I think I’ve accounted for that and for the confusing language 00:51:58.100 --> 00:52:02.233 that Commissioner Fraser was pointing out related to public 00:52:02.233 --> 00:52:06.467 hearings, um, on the public hearing part, um, what I’m 00:52:06.467 --> 00:52:11.000 proposing here is to not have a distinction between um 00:52:11.000 --> 00:52:15.567 commission. The the business of the commission. writ large and 00:52:15.567 --> 00:52:18.367 public hearings in particular, um, it just, it seems to me 00:52:18.367 --> 00:52:20.900 that no business should take place regardless of what it is, 00:52:20.900 --> 00:52:25.400 if there isn’t a quorum, right? Um, so I just took that 00:52:25.400 --> 00:52:28.100 distinction out of the language, so I, I hope it speaks for 00:52:28.100 --> 00:52:30.500 itself, but I happen to, happy to answer any questions about 00:52:30.500 --> 00:52:39.100 it. Since the troublemaker Frasier brought it up. We’ll 00:52:39.100 --> 00:52:53.033 have her come in. And put the boat, uh, your mic on. I like 00:52:53.033 --> 00:52:57.400 the revised language. I think it’s very clear. Thank you for 00:52:57.400 --> 00:53:01.100 for doing that. Well, thanks for bringing it up. I probably 00:53:01.100 --> 00:53:03.166 wouldn’t have noticed the other problems as well if if you 00:53:03.166 --> 00:53:14.800 hadn’t so yeah. Go ahead, Commissioner. Um I also kind of 00:53:14.800 --> 00:53:18.634 like the language, but I have a quick question. Um, the last 00:53:18.634 --> 00:53:22.800 sentence, uh, says in the absence of a quorum, those 00:53:22.800 --> 00:53:27.100 present shall adjourn any atoms of business requiring a public 00:53:27.100 --> 00:53:31.400 hearing or official uh commission I should to be uh 00:53:31.400 --> 00:53:37.800 specified time. Now my question is um can um business. To be 00:53:37.800 --> 00:53:41.467 continued if there are no public hearings scheduled. 00:53:41.467 --> 00:53:43.734 Because that’s what it’s, you know, this, this is uh this, 00:53:43.734 --> 00:53:49.100 this implied, um, am I right or wrong there? er Haven Fisher 00:53:49.100 --> 00:53:53.734 Dama, um, You know, there could be other business items that, 00:53:53.734 --> 00:53:56.567 that don’t, you, you, you do take actions sometimes or make 00:53:56.567 --> 00:53:59.100 recommendations sometimes to the city council on items that 00:53:59.100 --> 00:54:01.934 don’t require a public hearing, uh, so I think the intent here 00:54:01.934 --> 00:54:05.200 is just, you know, any any formal business would be 00:54:05.200 --> 00:54:09.634 adjourned. Uh, until, you know, a future specified time, is 00:54:09.634 --> 00:54:12.934 that, is that making sense? Um, yeah, I’m I’m trying to make it 00:54:12.934 --> 00:54:19.400 make sense because they still, uh, so if one person or two, 00:54:19.400 --> 00:54:23.400 Arrive and there is no qua they can still conduct some kind of 00:54:23.400 --> 00:54:30.000 business. As long as it does not involve, you know, public 00:54:30.000 --> 00:54:32.300 hearing. Is that how I understand this, or am I 00:54:32.300 --> 00:54:35.934 reading I think that phrase or official commission action. You 00:54:35.934 --> 00:54:39.200 know, it’s public hearing or official commission commission 00:54:39.200 --> 00:54:54.634 action. OK, OK. All right. Thanks for the clarification. 00:54:54.634 --> 00:54:57.867 It’s acceptable for commissioner to attend 00:54:57.867 --> 00:55:05.467 virtually for. To make You know, uh A corum, if you will. Is 00:55:05.467 --> 00:55:10.100 that members of the commission, yeah, there, there’s specific, 00:55:10.100 --> 00:55:12.934 uh, state statute or related to the open meeting law that that 00:55:12.934 --> 00:55:15.734 does allow that. There’s certain requirements that have 00:55:15.734 --> 00:55:20.734 to be met about notification and the location, the physical 00:55:20.734 --> 00:55:22.367 location of the commissioner participating in the meeting 00:55:22.367 --> 00:55:26.166 that they have to be in a, in a place that’s open to the, 00:55:26.166 --> 00:55:31.033 that’s accessible to the public, so like if you’re traveling, um, 00:55:31.033 --> 00:55:32.634 you can participate remotely, but then you’d have to do it 00:55:32.634 --> 00:55:35.300 like from the lobby of a. tell or something as opposed to, you 00:55:35.300 --> 00:55:40.533 know, in a hotel room behind lock and key, you know, so in 00:55:40.533 --> 00:55:45.467 the event that somebody, um, wanted to, you know, observe 00:55:45.467 --> 00:55:48.100 you, uh, participating in the meeting from Tulsa, Oklahoma if 00:55:48.100 --> 00:55:52.467 they could, you know, so if someone is feeling OK, but they 00:55:52.467 --> 00:55:57.100 have COVID. Uh, and they shouldn’t be exposed to others, 00:55:57.100 --> 00:56:01.300 they still would have to be in public. Right. Yeah, so you’ll 00:56:01.300 --> 00:56:04.634 recall, you know, during, during the public health 00:56:04.634 --> 00:56:09.634 emergency, you know, the, the, the, those rules were suspended 00:56:09.634 --> 00:56:14.200 and um that that’s when you had, um, commissioners, city council 00:56:14.200 --> 00:56:17.567 members, um, everybody, you know, participating in those 00:56:17.567 --> 00:56:20.000 meetings from home, which of course is not accessible to the 00:56:20.000 --> 00:56:23.400 public, um, but, but since the public health emergencies have 00:56:23.400 --> 00:56:30.266 expired. It’s back to the old law, yeah. OK. All right, do we 00:56:30.266 --> 00:56:37.767 need to vote on this? Uh yes, please, uh. One question I have 00:56:37.767 --> 00:56:46.200 is uh we. When in our intro script when we read it says 9. 00:56:46.200 --> 00:56:50.467 Presidents volunteer members. But there are, I think with 00:56:50.467 --> 00:56:58.000 young leaders we are 11 members and Uh Wouldn’t they have, uh, 00:56:58.000 --> 00:57:01.266 you know, young leaders if they get appointed, wouldn’t they 00:57:01.266 --> 00:57:05.400 have the same voting. privileges like any of us here. 00:57:05.400 --> 00:57:10.500 And Can we, if so, can we address those things in this 00:57:10.500 --> 00:57:15.567 battle. Uh, uh, Commissioner, uh, Chair Kavi, Commissioner 00:57:15.567 --> 00:57:17.133 Walker, I really appreciate that question. The answer is 00:57:17.133 --> 00:57:22.567 yes, um, you know, the, the young adult members have full 00:57:22.567 --> 00:57:26.800 voting, um, rights and that, that is actually the the 00:57:26.800 --> 00:57:33.300 language that lays that out is actually in city ordinance, um, 00:57:33.300 --> 00:57:39.734 back of was it 3 years ago, I think when that was created, um, 00:57:39.734 --> 00:57:42.000 the council amended city ordinance to to create these 00:57:42.000 --> 00:57:45.400 positions. and, and, and laid that out there. You know, there 00:57:45.400 --> 00:57:50.800 was a discussion at the time of of having youth under 18, you 00:57:50.800 --> 00:57:54.033 know, participating on commissions, uh, it ended up, 00:57:54.033 --> 00:57:58.266 that ended up not being um the resolution because of that 00:57:58.266 --> 00:58:00.934 concern about voting. We couldn’t have voting members 00:58:00.934 --> 00:58:03.567 under 18, um, so that was the end, the end result. But yes, 00:58:03.567 --> 00:58:06.900 the, the short answer to your question is yes, they do have 00:58:06.900 --> 00:58:09.400 full voting rights and that’s laid out in ordinance. So it 00:58:09.400 --> 00:58:13.467 doesn’t need to be repeated in the bylaws. And what’s the 00:58:13.467 --> 00:58:19.367 status of that? I just inquired about it, uh, with the 00:58:19.367 --> 00:58:23.000 administration and we just, we just have had very little 00:58:23.000 --> 00:58:27.200 interest, unfortunately. Um, we haven’t had folks applying to 00:58:27.200 --> 00:58:34.100 those positions on the on the planning commission. Yeah, good 00:58:34.100 --> 00:58:42.166 question, uh. Thank you for bringing this to the Amendment. 00:58:42.166 --> 00:58:51.667 I’m sorry if I missed it, but uh it there. an option to. To 00:58:51.667 --> 00:58:57.000 participate for commissioners in a virtually um let’s say if 00:58:57.000 --> 00:59:00.300 uh a commissioner traveled out of uh Other city or out of the 00:59:00.300 --> 00:59:08.867 state. Is there um such language. Uh, Chehan, uh, 00:59:08.867 --> 00:59:10.867 Commissioner Carroso, members of the commission, yes, that 00:59:10.867 --> 00:59:13.166 that is an option that doesn’t need to be in the bylaws, 00:59:13.166 --> 00:59:15.400 that’s covered, it’s covered under the open meeting law 00:59:15.400 --> 00:59:19.033 under state statutes. So if you ever do want to make those 00:59:19.033 --> 00:59:21.767 arrangements, please contact staff and we’re, we’re happy to 00:59:21.767 --> 00:59:25.367 walk you through what those requirements are, uh, we, we 00:59:25.367 --> 00:59:29.734 need, we need enough notice to be able to, um, publish a 00:59:29.734 --> 00:59:32.400 public notice which I think is, I believe is 3 days in advance 00:59:32.400 --> 00:59:35.634 of the meeting, um, to notify the public that there will be 00:59:35.634 --> 00:59:46.133 somebody participating. remotely. No. Thank you. All 00:59:46.133 --> 00:59:53.867 right, uh, anything else? All right, kids, we didn’t put a 00:59:53.867 --> 00:59:58.100 motion, uh, in the packet but just uh a motion to um approve 00:59:58.100 --> 01:00:10.166 the the bylaws. Would be in order. So move Can I get a 2nd 01:00:10.166 --> 01:00:18.367 2nd. Um, any further discussion? All right, uh, let’s vote, all 01:00:18.367 --> 01:00:23.500 in favor, say aye. Aye. You oppose? All right, motion 01:00:23.500 --> 01:00:33.266 carries. Uh, let’s see here, uh, we’ll move to item 7, or 4 01:00:33.266 --> 01:00:42.133 points. 7 Uh, old business, anything, uh. These are verbal 01:00:42.133 --> 01:00:48.634 reports and announcement, any business If not, uh, move to 01:00:48.634 --> 01:00:55.533 number 8 here, uh, council member, liaison, he’s Absent to 01:00:55.533 --> 01:00:57.767 the excuse absint, anything that you would like to chair 01:00:57.767 --> 01:01:00.934 came and members of the commission, I can provide a 01:01:00.934 --> 01:01:06.200 brief Update on city council actions, the only action that 01:01:06.200 --> 01:01:09.467 the council has taken related to land use and planning issues 01:01:09.467 --> 01:01:12.200 since the last regularly meeting, the planning mission 01:01:12.200 --> 01:01:15.800 was, um, at the regular city council meeting on March 24th, 01:01:15.800 --> 01:01:20.266 the council heard a presentation on the 2024 01:01:20.266 --> 01:01:23.467 planning commission annual report and accepted the 2025 01:01:23.467 --> 01:01:32.467 planning commission work plan. Awesome. Thank you. Uh, 01:01:32.467 --> 01:01:35.667 planning commissioner, uh, comments. Or you know me, I’m 01:01:35.667 --> 01:01:44.667 sorry, let me, can I just go back to one, old business, um, 01:01:44.667 --> 01:01:50.100 The discussion on, um, changing the time from 6 p.m. to or from 01:01:50.100 --> 01:01:53.133 7 to 6, so can you, uh, elaborate on that? What was the 01:01:53.133 --> 01:01:57.634 decision? I’m sure members of the commission. Yeah, I, I sent 01:01:57.634 --> 01:02:01.200 an email following the last meeting when we discussed the 01:02:01.200 --> 01:02:06.533 bylaws, um, just floating the idea of Moving the starting 01:02:06.533 --> 01:02:09.667 time up from 7 to 6 for, for the planning commission 01:02:09.667 --> 01:02:13.734 meetings, um, doing so in, in my mind would require every 01:02:13.734 --> 01:02:16.767 member being able to make that change, um, and, uh, there, 01:02:16.767 --> 01:02:19.500 there are a few folks who can’t make the change, so we are, we 01:02:19.500 --> 01:02:22.467 are not proposing staff is not proposing to change the the 01:02:22.467 --> 01:02:30.100 time. Yeah, thank you. All right, uh, we’ll move to 4.9. 01:02:30.100 --> 01:02:34.367 Uh, planning commission comments, Commissioner. Well. 01:02:34.367 --> 01:02:40.233 Uh, hello, uh. My comment uh maybe it’s my fault that I 01:02:40.233 --> 01:02:44.567 brought this up, but, uh, when I brought up that we don’t have 01:02:44.567 --> 01:02:47.300 enough site walks in the uh area of the city that, uh, I 01:02:47.300 --> 01:02:52.467 live in. Um What happened was that the little sidewalk that 01:02:52.467 --> 01:02:55.734 we have like on then. Uh, you know, you know, you know, there 01:02:55.734 --> 01:02:59.567 was grass and, you know, you know, nice concrete. That was 01:02:59.567 --> 01:03:02.367 taken away in uh, you know, and they, they put like a black car. 01:03:02.367 --> 01:03:10.533 Uh, uh, you know, uh, asphalt. And they took away the grass, 01:03:10.533 --> 01:03:13.800 you know, and where, where are you, where are you talking 01:03:13.800 --> 01:03:21.800 about? Zen Zen where uh, between, um, Brooklyn Boulevard, 01:03:21.800 --> 01:03:27.200 uh, going down to go down to Zanewood and yeah, I believe 01:03:27.200 --> 01:03:31.367 that was part of a project to add a multi-use trail, so it’s 01:03:31.367 --> 01:03:36.400 wider than it used to be, right, to accom accommodate both bikes 01:03:36.400 --> 01:03:39.400 and pedestrians, don’t, don’t, don’t get me wrong, we uh, we 01:03:39.400 --> 01:03:42.100 appreciate that, but this progress is not always there. 01:03:42.100 --> 01:03:44.734 You know, you know, we, we love a little bit of grass, you know, 01:03:44.734 --> 01:03:47.467 you know, you know, to differentiate between the 01:03:47.467 --> 01:03:51.100 highway and, you know, and, and that, and uh, you know, that 01:03:51.100 --> 01:03:54.867 leads into my next question. Any ideas when the others, the 01:03:54.867 --> 01:04:00.400 rest of the area will get a sidewalk. Hm In that in that 01:04:00.400 --> 01:04:04.100 area they’re literally none. In that immediate area at Zane and 01:04:04.100 --> 01:04:09.033 Brooklyn Boulevard. Yeah, that the whole area, then whatever 01:04:09.033 --> 01:04:13.000 the the the is that the, what do you call it, the, the west. 01:04:13.000 --> 01:04:18.000 of the village Creek area. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there’s still no 01:04:18.000 --> 01:04:20.634 sides side that walks there when I first started, I brought 01:04:20.634 --> 01:04:23.734 it up and um, you know, I was told that it was uh being 01:04:23.734 --> 01:04:27.500 looked at, but it’s been a few years now is that, I mean, I’m 01:04:27.500 --> 01:04:32.200 sure it can be seen now. Uh, maybe offline you can show me 01:04:32.200 --> 01:04:33.934 exactly where, where you’re talking about so I can check 01:04:33.934 --> 01:04:37.100 with the city engineer about that because, you know, the 01:04:37.100 --> 01:04:40.800 city has a whole bike and head plan that, you know, we’ve been 01:04:40.800 --> 01:04:43.000 implementing over the last 10 years and there’s there’s a lot 01:04:43.000 --> 01:04:47.200 to go still. OK, yeah, that, that will the neighborhood is 01:04:47.200 --> 01:04:50.000 kind of an old in the neighborhood and no sidewalks 01:04:50.000 --> 01:04:53.634 at all. None. Yeah and in a lot of the infrastructure that’s 01:04:53.634 --> 01:05:00.100 there needs some refreshing, um, yeah, that’s right. OK, um. And 01:05:00.100 --> 01:05:04.300 the last item, um, is, is spring again, so, um. Will the 01:05:04.300 --> 01:05:08.000 city be, uh, you know, do anything about, uh, encouraging, 01:05:08.000 --> 01:05:13.900 you know, people to, to pick up after themselves. Chen, 01:05:13.900 --> 01:05:16.367 commissionerdama, uh, you know, it’s interesting you bring that 01:05:16.367 --> 01:05:18.834 up. I know you’ve brought that up before and other 01:05:18.834 --> 01:05:21.000 commissioners have to the city council, this is on the radar 01:05:21.000 --> 01:05:23.166 of the city council, and there’s been a lot of concern, 01:05:23.166 --> 01:05:26.166 especially the last couple of years and we haven’t had much 01:05:26.166 --> 01:05:30.567 snow, um, you know, the, the litter around the city is much 01:05:30.567 --> 01:05:34.800 more visible than it has been in in previous years, um, so I, 01:05:34.800 --> 01:05:39.000 I don’t, I can’t speak to the specifics, um, but I know there 01:05:39.000 --> 01:05:41.033 is an effort underway uh under the leadership of the city 01:05:41.033 --> 01:05:45.400 council. to do something about that. In fact, it made its way 01:05:45.400 --> 01:05:48.166 into the just adopted, um, community plan, the, the jewel 01:05:48.166 --> 01:05:52.467 of the North, which updates the the former BP 2025 Community 01:05:52.467 --> 01:05:55.533 goals, you know, literary reduction is now officially in 01:05:55.533 --> 01:06:00.300 there, um, so yeah, it’s, it’s, that’s on the radar. Thank you, 01:06:00.300 --> 01:06:07.367 I appreciate that. I shouldn’t call myself out like this, but 01:06:07.367 --> 01:06:14.266 um I’m responsible for the mile between here and On 85th 01:06:14.266 --> 01:06:17.634 through to uh 169, so I’ll promise I’ll get out there and 01:06:17.634 --> 01:06:22.800 clean up. You adopted it. Yeah, well, you can, you can recruit 01:06:22.800 --> 01:06:27.634 your fellow commissioners. I like that, yeah. Although then 01:06:27.634 --> 01:06:36.667 we have to probably notice it as a public meeting, but We 01:06:36.667 --> 01:06:44.400 Yeah Yeah, yeah. All right. All right, any other planning 01:06:44.400 --> 01:06:51.634 commission. I saw that the uh teen center ground broke for 01:06:51.634 --> 01:06:56.934 that, so congratulations. Mhm. Looking forward to it and 01:06:56.934 --> 01:07:05.000 December it’s gonna be ready. That’s awesome. Awesome. All 01:07:05.000 --> 01:07:10.767 right, uh, Staff liaison comments. Chair and members of 01:07:10.767 --> 01:07:15.133 the commission, I’ve got, I think 3 announcements, one 01:07:15.133 --> 01:07:18.934 reminder that 2 weeks from tonight on April 23rd, there is 01:07:18.934 --> 01:07:21.634 no planning commission meeting, no work session, uh, in place 01:07:21.634 --> 01:07:26.500 so that will be a Brooklyn Park development tour uh with the 01:07:26.500 --> 01:07:28.533 city council and members of the planning commission. We do have 01:07:28.533 --> 01:07:32.100 some of you who responded, uh, to that that you’re coming uh 01:07:32.100 --> 01:07:34.467 for the rest of you who are not attending, you get the night 01:07:34.467 --> 01:07:44.467 off, um, so don’t come here on the 23rd. Um, next, um, uh. The 01:07:44.467 --> 01:07:48.734 next step of the Northwest growth area plan um following 01:07:48.734 --> 01:07:52.000 the joint work session we had with the with the city council, 01:07:52.000 --> 01:07:57.400 uh, is going to be a, um, another public open house, um, 01:07:57.400 --> 01:08:01.467 on the evening of May 7th, that’s a Wednesday, uh, from 5 01:08:01.467 --> 01:08:04.734 to 7, we will email all this to you so you have it as well. Um, 01:08:04.734 --> 01:08:09.000 but May 7th, 5 to 7 once again at the small business center as 01:08:09.000 --> 01:08:12.200 it was the previous time in January, and then we will 01:08:12.200 --> 01:08:14.934 follow that with online engagement as well for people. 01:08:14.934 --> 01:08:18.233 who prefer to engage that way, so watch for more information 01:08:18.233 --> 01:08:23.000 about that. Uh, and then last but not least, uh, on the 01:08:23.000 --> 01:08:28.800 city’s website is a is a survey that we have up related to the 01:08:28.800 --> 01:08:32.634 um Metro Blue Line extension, the LRT project, um, and the 01:08:32.634 --> 01:08:38.934 goal of the survey is to get feedback from residents and 01:08:38.934 --> 01:08:42.667 business owners and strategies for anti-displacement, what 01:08:42.667 --> 01:08:45.400 anti-displacement means is, um, making sure that people who 01:08:45.400 --> 01:08:48.800 live and work and own businesses in the LRT corridor 01:08:48.800 --> 01:08:52.834 are able to. stay in the corridor and aren’t priced out, 01:08:52.834 --> 01:08:57.000 um, after the, after the train goes in, so we’re asking for 01:08:57.000 --> 01:09:00.800 input on um some proposed strategies for helping to make 01:09:00.800 --> 01:09:02.667 that happen. You’ll find that just right in the front of the 01:09:02.667 --> 01:09:13.734 of the city’s website. A All right, thank you. Anything else?