Brooklyn Park Planning Commission Re-elects Officers for 2025

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Meeting Date: Wednesday, March 12, 2025
Story generated: Aug 5, 2025
Focus: Annual organizational meeting with officer re-elections and procedural updates

The Brooklyn Park Planning Commission re-elected its current leadership during its annual organizational meeting Wednesday, maintaining continuity as the nine-member body prepares for another year of reviewing development proposals.

Kevin was re-elected as chair, with Kathy Frazier continuing as vice chair and Tahiti Waco remaining as general officer. All three positions were filled unanimously without opposition from other commissioners.

The commission also adopted its 2025 bylaws with a directive to staff to clarify language regarding quorum requirements for public hearings. Commissioner Frazier raised concerns about potential conflicts in the current wording that could allow public hearings with fewer than the required majority of commissioners present.

Commissioners approved their 2025 work plan and discussed adding Robert's Rules training to their work session schedule. Commissioner Waco suggested the training focus on procedures most relevant to planning commission operations rather than comprehensive parliamentary procedure.

The commission also requested staff provide periodic updates on the status of previously approved development projects, including those that may have stalled or been delayed. Staff agreed to present an interactive development map at a future work session showing project statuses throughout the city.

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Meeting Analysis

Brooklyn Park Planning Commission held their annual organizational meeting on March 12, 2025. The commission re-elected their current officers: Kevin as Chair, Kathy Frazier as Vice Chair, and Tahiti Waco as General Officer. They adopted the 2025 bylaws with a direction to staff to clarify quorum requirements for public hearings. The commission approved their 2025 work plan and discussed various procedural matters including Robert's Rules training and project follow-up mechanisms.

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704. I now call this meeting to order, um, let’s start with uh 00:00:12.467 --> 00:00:55.767

roll call. Present. Present Well Awesome. Let’s stand for 00:00:55.767 --> 00:01:01.834

the Pledge of Allegiance. I, I pledge allegiance to the flag 00:01:01.834 --> 00:01:05.400

of the United States of America and to the republic for which

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it stands, one nation under God indivisible with liberty and

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justice for all. All right, the next, uh, agenda item uh 00:01:20.233 --> 00:01:22.467

explanation by chair, please be advised that the public

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hearings are recorded and televised live on cable

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television and web stream over the internet at

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comments from the seating area. If you want to be heard and

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made a part of the public work group, please go to the podium

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or if participating remotely, turn on your camera, speak into 00:01:42.233 --> 00:01:45.467

the microphone, stating your full name and address. Please

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sign the public hearing logbook on the table near the entrance

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to the council chambers if you are attending in person to 00:01:52.300 --> 00:01:55.200

ensure accuracy of name and address in the public record.

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Please note that the agen agenda for tonight’s uh uh

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media indicates that the commission chair has the 00:02:02.500 --> 00:02:06.233

prerogative to evoke a time limit for speakers during any

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public hearing in the interest of maintaining focus and the 00:02:10.000 --> 00:02:12.634

effective use of time. Thank you in advance for your

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cooperation. The planning commission consists of 9

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resident volunteer members appointed by the city council 00:02:20.233 --> 00:02:25.467

to advise the city council on planning and land use issues.

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The commission discusses and evaluates development proposals

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based on zoning regulations and comprehensive plan policies. 00:02:33.000 --> 00:02:35.800

The planning commission vote is a recommendation that is

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forwarded to the city council for official and final action. 00:02:41.500 --> 00:02:49.467

All right, we’ll move to the next agenda item, um. Or the

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next item of business is to uh approve the agenda. Are there 00:02:53.467 --> 00:03:02.900

any additions or changes to the agenda? Uh yeah, uh, 00:03:02.900 --> 00:03:09.233

commissioner, uh, before we have uh. Oh, I thought you

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wanted some changes made. Now. Minutes. All right. Sounds 00:03:12.567 --> 00:03:20.900

great. I’ll make a motion. No. All right, the, uh, motion has 00:03:20.900 --> 00:03:28.634

been made. It has been 2nd, all in favor. Say aye. All right,

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motion carries. So, um, are we to go to the next agenda item, 00:03:34.934 --> 00:03:39.133

uh, which are the, the required duties. The election of

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officers, Mr. Chair. Sounds great. Let’s do that. Uh, so, 00:03:42.934 --> 00:03:46.033

uh, Mr. Chair, members of the planning commission, I can just

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introduce this really briefly before turning it back over to

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the chair. Um, so there, this is the organization of the 00:03:53.033 --> 00:03:57.300

annual organizational meeting where the commission elects

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officers of chair, vice chair, and general officer, the, um, 00:04:02.166 --> 00:04:04.800

the agenda also notes the election of a business forward

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liaison. Let me just say a couple words about that. Uh,

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you may recall last year, um, the commission actually struck 00:04:12.000 --> 00:04:18.634

that lead. on position from the Bylaws because that group no

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longer exists. However, there is, um, some interest, as I 00:04:21.500 --> 00:04:26.100

understand it, and reconstituting that, that, that,

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that business forward group sometime this year. So what I 00:04:30.467 --> 00:04:33.266

would propose is that um because the, the group doesn’t

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exist now, it’s, it’s probably not necessary to appoint a

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liaison, but in the event that that group is reconstituted 00:04:41.400 --> 00:04:43.867

during 2025, uh, the commission could revisit the bylaws, add

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that lease. back in if it’s so chose to, and then elect a

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liaison to serve in that role. So my suggestion tonight would 00:04:51.734 --> 00:04:54.133

be simply to elect those 1st 3 officers, the chair, vice chair,

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and General officer. Um Of course, right now, the chair is, 00:05:02.467 --> 00:05:07.800

is, is Chehan, uh, vice chair, uh Kathy Frazier, general

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officer, uh, Tahiti Wacko. Um And um, so those are the 00:05:13.734 --> 00:05:17.367

incumbents, uh, as I mentioned in an email the other day, uh,

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the makeup of the commission is not changing, um, the 00:05:22.667 --> 00:05:25.000

commission did reappoint or the council rather did reappoint

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the three commissioners who were up, uh, for reappointment.

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So, um, anybody who is, um, currently serving and serving 00:05:32.367 --> 00:05:35.033

throughout this year is eligible for any of these.

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Officer positions. So with that, I’ll turn it back over to the

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chair. All right, uh, thanks, uh. Let’s start with the 00:05:45.767 --> 00:05:54.233

election of officers, so we have the chair position um. Um 00:05:54.233 --> 00:05:57.767

anybody interested and uh uh being considered for that, I am,

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you know, again more than willing to, you know, maintain 00:06:00.634 --> 00:06:05.634

the position. It’s, uh, but no one interested in also. Then we

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can have a debate. I don’t know. For 2 hours. Yeah. All right. 00:06:16.033 --> 00:06:23.634

Uh Make motion. Go ahead. I make a motion to appoint Chair, 00:06:23.634 --> 00:06:32.100

Kevin. To be vice chair for this coming cycle. A second All 00:06:32.100 --> 00:06:40.166

right. Darn it No no no. All right. Any, uh, motion has been 00:06:40.166 --> 00:06:49.834

made, um, um, it has been 2, All in favor, say aye aye. 00

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yeah. You have. Uh, speech I’d like to say, um. Uh, Mr. 00:07:05.800 --> 00:07:10.100

Chairman, uh, thank you very much for the wonderful job 00:07:10.100 --> 00:07:14.800

you’ve done this year and uh it’s an honor to have you, uh,

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reappointed for a second term, so. Thank you. Thank you. All 00:07:22.300 --> 00:07:27.367

right, and the motion has been made. It has been 2nd all in

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favor. I In the post All right, motion carries. Um, the next is 00:07:37.266 --> 00:07:44.734

the vice chair, uh, The commissioner, Frazier’s 00:07:44.734 --> 00:07:49.767

currently serving in that position, um. Um, anybody else

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interested in fulfilling that role? If not, uh, uh, can I get 00:07:56.567 --> 00:08:06.100

a motion to Are you interested in refilling. 00, I’d like to 00:08:06.100 --> 00:08:11.900

make a motion to reappoint uh the current vice president. Uh, 00:08:11.900 --> 00:08:16.400

oh, sorry, vice chair. Can we please promote her to vice

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president. And no last election did not go very well for the 00:08:22.767 --> 00:08:30.734

vice president. We want this, we want this one to go better 00:08:30.734 --> 00:08:35.000

appointed the current vice chair to another term. Like

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Right, motion has been made. It has been 2nd, uh. Uh, all in 00:08:41.533 --> 00:08:51.567

favor. Oh, God. Good. Uh, well, um, I think uh the vice chair, 00:08:51.567 --> 00:08:55.767

uh, the, the work she’s done speaks for herself, uh, when in

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the absence of the chair, the the vice has done a wonderful

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job, so. Uh, it’s, uh, my honor to, you know, uh. nominate her, 00:09:05.934 --> 00:09:11.467

so I, I hope she wins. Thank you. Saying is, it’s been 00:09:11.467 --> 00:09:15.467

absolute pleasure, uh, have you as vice chair and uh you’ve

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stepped up every time, uh, um, so it is an honor to, to have 00:09:20.533 --> 00:09:25.266

you as vice chair, so thank you appreciate it. Um, all right,

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motion has been made that that’s been 2nd. We’ve had some

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discussion. All in favor, say aye. I the pose. All right, 00:09:35.467 --> 00:09:40.634

Motion carries. All right, uh, the general officer currently 00:09:40.634 --> 00:09:48.100

served by Commissioner Waco, um. Um, anyone else interested in?

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General officer. Are you interested? All right, uh. Yeah 00:10:00.100 --> 00:10:15.867

it Yeah it Sounds great. All right, uh. Uh Any comments or I 00:10:15.867 --> 00:10:25.500

didn’t right. you know I’ll second that. All right, um, All 00:10:25.500 --> 00:10:34.734

in favor. the post. All right, motion carries. Congratulations. 00:10:34.734 --> 00:10:56.900

I And All right, uh, let’s see here. Uh, the next agenda item 00:10:56.900 --> 00:11:00.667

is 4.2 adoption of the bylaws, is that? Yeah, yes, Mr. Chair, 00:11:00.667 --> 00:11:03.834

members of the commission, um, this year’s staff are not

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proposing any, any changes to the bylaws over the last year,

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we will, we will fill in the blanks for the officers based

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on the election that just occurred and put those names in, 00:11:14.500 --> 00:11:17.734

um, otherwise what’s before you is what’s what staff is

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recommending for the bylaws, you know, we do, I will just 00:11:21.467 --> 00:11:24.634

say some at times as staff, we do propose if the commission

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would ever be interested in moving the meeting to 6 p.m.

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and putting that in the bylaws we would be in. in favor of

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that, but we understand that that doesn’t work for 00:11:32.367 --> 00:11:34.767

everybody’s schedule, and I, in all seriousness, I won’t

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propose that tonight because we are missing a couple, a couple

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of commission members and if it doesn’t work for everybody, we

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need to make sure it does if, if, if that’s where the 00:11:43.000 --> 00:11:47.100

commission were to go, so, um, That’s all I had to say about

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the bylaws and but the commission is welcome to, of

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course, discuss and propose any, any changes that it wishes to 00:11:52.734 --> 00:11:58.300

discuss. All right, thank you. Um, let’s see here, do I have

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the bylaws in front of me. Oh yeah, I do. All right, great. 00:12:03.634 --> 00:12:10.567

All right, um, uh, the bylaws are in front of us, um, any 00:12:10.567 --> 00:12:14.767

Discussion, uh, with regards to the bylaws or? Anything you

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would like to change or see different at this time we can,

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I believe we can revisit this. There are issues commissioner. 00:12:27.166 --> 00:12:34.200

I, I’d like to make a, you know, uh, suggestion for a change. Um, 00:12:34.200 --> 00:12:39.634

the, uh, staff mentioned that uh we, we have issues with the

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um meeting time. Uh, changing it from 6 o’clock, my 00:12:43.100 --> 00:12:49.000

suggestion would be, why don’t we follow the uh Uh, like 7

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times, uh, uh, thing, you know, so, so that when the Dallas 7 00:12:52.767 --> 00:12:55.567

time changes, we drop them a meeting to 6 or sorry, we, you

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know, to 6 o’clock and we it. But then this we push it back 00:13:00.767 --> 00:13:06.266

to to 7 because uh because, you know, um, 7 o’clock in winter

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it’s a little bit harder to uh to attend than uh 7 o’clock

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this summer. Just a suggestion to consider. I Yeah Thank you. 00:13:22.100 --> 00:13:32.367

I get that. Um I think, uh, I think, uh, I mean, that’s a 00:13:32.367 --> 00:13:38.734

great point, um. Uh, because it is bylaw, you know, it would be

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nice to have. For the commissioners here to all. Uh 00:13:45.634 --> 00:13:49.400

Have a debate, if you will, on the, on the timeline, but I

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love your suggestion. Um, obviously we’ll have to work 00:13:52.667 --> 00:13:57.900

with the staff as well, you know, but uh. I think we should

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have this just my opinion that we should have um uh all the. 00:14:03.233 --> 00:14:09.734

commissioners here that, that debate. For discussion. With

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you. At the person this. Will you, let’s uh Am I going to 00:14:16.233 --> 00:14:29.467

guarantee? I, uh, no, no. I, I, I will just How, how that 00:14:29.467 --> 00:14:35.934

Sounds great. Uh, so, Mr. Chair, Dama, the question is how would 00:14:35.934 --> 00:14:41.266

it affect staff if, if we, if the commission chose to do base 00:14:41.266 --> 00:14:44.400

start times on daylight saving time, that, that’s what I mean,

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I, um, I think it could create some confusion, um, with both 00:14:50.233 --> 00:14:53.900

staff and the public, you know, because we have, of course,

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public hearings at these meetings, um. You know, I, I

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think having a consistent start time would be important, um, so 00:15:04.767 --> 00:15:06.500

people just know if, you know, if it’s a planning commission

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meeting, it’s a, it’s at 7 o’clock or, or 6 o’clock 00:15:10.133 --> 00:15:11.800

whatever the commission decides that that would be my

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suggestion. I mean, it’s that we can deal with it, we could,

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you know, make the change twice a year just like we all do with

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our clocks. Um, but, um, my suggestion would be to just 00:15:21.800 --> 00:15:26.100

choose a time and and stick with it. But again, I, I, I

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agree with that, the conversation should probably

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wait until we have all 9 commissioners present. Was that 00:15:38.300 --> 00:15:44.166

All right, any other discussion on the bylaws? Yes. Chair, one 00:15:44.166 --> 00:15:51.100

question I have is on, on bylaws, uh, number one. B In 00:15:51.100 --> 00:15:56.533

the event that there are More public hearings than can be

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reasonably expected to be concluded by 11 p.m. That’s 00:16:01.767 --> 00:16:09.367

like 4 hours window between 7. To 11 p.m. And Um, we haven’t

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reached to that level as far as I’ve been here. But, uh, where 00:16:14.800 --> 00:16:20.000

is 11 p.m. coming from, and I just wanna know. Uh, that Has 00:16:20.000 --> 00:16:24.467

to be 4 hours window or, you know, uh. Just wanted to know

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where. That 11 comes, can it be 10? Can it be 9? Just a 00:16:31.734 --> 00:16:35.467

question about that, Mr. Chair, members of the commission, um,

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you know, the history of that, I would imagine that, uh, at

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least at the time that it was proved the bylaws probably 00:16:40.867 --> 00:16:46.266

matched. A similar rule the city council had for itself.

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There’s been a lot of that just trying to, you know, match with

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the city council does, um. But, um, but no, that, I mean that 00:16:54.200 --> 00:16:56.834

there’s nothing magic about the 4 hours. That’s something the

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commission could decide for itself to change to a different, 00:17:00.467 --> 00:17:05.467

a different time if it’s so chose. But to your point,

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Commissioner Wacker, we, you know, as of late, at least, we

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have not had meetings that have Approach that, yeah. I’m, I’m 00:17:15.634 --> 00:17:20.800

not, oh, sorry. I’m not to release to just change unless, 00:17:20.800 --> 00:17:23.667

you know, majority, you know, many people needs to, to change,

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but. I do feel that a little bit lengthy. In terms of Scope. 00:17:30.467 --> 00:17:32.734

We haven’t reached to that level, but if this is

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consistent with the city council. I think I’m fine with

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it. OK. And, and one Just share one last question is, uh, uh, 00:17:43.934 --> 00:17:50.800

the last page. Uh, talks about any rule of order not covered 00:17:50.800 --> 00:17:54.500

by these bylaws shall be governed by the Robot rule of

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Order of Standard. parliamentary procedure and

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That is really to mention that every year if there is kind of. 00:18:04.567 --> 00:18:08.567

Maybe you know, 5 10 minutes presentation about Robert’s

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rule of law. Uh, that would be good. I have seen where that is 00:18:13.100 --> 00:18:16.367

very, very important in running commissions when I was in the

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budget advisory commission. Um Not everybody is, you know, 00:18:21.300 --> 00:18:24.767

yeah, the robot’s rule of law is out there. You know, the

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book is there, but. How the city You know, procedure

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function, you know, when we run commissions if, you know, if, 00:18:33.533 --> 00:18:37.300

for some, it could be repeat, for some it could be, you know,

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refreshing and new. Uh, I would like to see if there is any way 00:18:42.000 --> 00:18:46.233

to add that, you know, um, at the beginning of the session.

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Uh, not every meetings, but, you know, cycle. There will be 00:18:52.100 --> 00:18:56.000

some brief presentation about Robert rule of law. Are you OK

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with that being at one of the working sessions. Yes, I’m OK

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with that to be one of the working sessions, yes. Uh 00:19:07.100 --> 00:19:08.634

excellent suggestion, Commissioner Waco. Uh, we’ve

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done that in the past and we’ll be happy to add that to, um, 00:19:12.000 --> 00:19:16.634

you know, the list of, um, I’m kind of trainings that we’re

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doing over the course of the year at work sessions, so

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thanks for that suggestion. Great. Thank you. OK. Jeff The 00:19:28.000 --> 00:19:39.634

light is on, so. Did you have something? now OK. You’re like. 00:19:39.634 --> 00:19:48.133

All right, uh. Sorry. Can I point out something to the uh 00:19:48.133 --> 00:19:54.033

the commissioner, um, if, if you look at this, uh Uh, bylaws, 00:19:54.033 --> 00:19:59.367

uh, if, if you look at number 1112, 13, going down. There are

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some aspects of the robust rule of law that has been mentioned 00:20:03.367 --> 00:20:10.500

here as, as it affects this meeting. So, um. We Maybe we 00:20:10.500 --> 00:20:13.367

will need to visit it, but we may not need to take a full

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course on it because it’s, you know, if it can be complicated,

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we should just take the parts that affects us. And, and, and, 00:20:21.800 --> 00:20:27.100

uh, listed out here as it is, you know, to simplify so that

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we don’t spend all time the betting on. On, on, on, on the 00:20:31.900 --> 00:20:35.367

role aspects instead of 70 public as as we’re supposed to

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do, that’s just my, my suggestion, we should

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streamline things as much as possible. With without creating 00:20:41.533 --> 00:20:44.734

no chaos, so that we become, you know, uh focused around.

00:20:44.734 --> 00:20:48.667

Our men Function in a while, you know, we know, we know why

00:20:48.667 --> 00:20:53.233

we are here and what we have to do. Sounds great. I like that 00:20:53.233 --> 00:21:00.166

suggestion, so and the training session and the working session, 00:21:00.166 --> 00:21:05.734

uh, uh, focusing on the uh Not the entire book about what’s

00:21:05.734 --> 00:21:16.734

important to, uh, uh. Uh This commission Sounds great. 00:21:16.734 --> 00:21:26.367

Frazier. Yes, so there seems to be a conflict with the quorum. 00:21:26.367 --> 00:21:30.867

That’s required, so it’s majority. Um, of members 00:21:30.867 --> 00:21:38.033

appointed. And then it says that public hearing should not

00:21:38.033 --> 00:21:48.233

contain. More than 3 or fewer. So Essentially we can have a 00:21:48.233 --> 00:21:55.166

public here and without a quorum if that’s the case. What 00:21:55.166 --> 00:22:03.634

So she’s 4A. That shall consist of a minimum of a majority of 00:22:03.634 --> 00:22:07.533

current appointed and seated commissioners in no case shall

00:22:07.533 --> 00:22:11.867

a public hearing be held if only 3 commissioners or fewer 00:22:11.867 --> 00:22:16.000

are present. I think that’s uh Go ahead. Oh maybe you were

00:22:16.000 --> 00:22:21.000

just going to say, a chair came in, um, and Commissioner 00:22:21.000 --> 00:22:24.000

Frazier, I think the intent there is in the event that

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there are fewer than 9 commissioners seated as in

00:22:28.300 --> 00:22:32.567

there are open seats that haven’t been appointed. That 00:22:32.567 --> 00:22:37.400

will reduce the quorum for a meeting. Um, so let’s say the

00:22:37.400 --> 00:22:46.467

quorum was Um I don’t, so you could imagine a situation where 00:22:46.467 --> 00:22:50.800

there’s a lower quorum than we would have when, when all 9 are 00:22:50.800 --> 00:22:55.500

seated, um, but in no in any case, regardless of how many

00:22:55.500 --> 00:23:00.300

are seated, um, you can’t, you have to have 3 for a public 00:23:00.300 --> 00:23:05.266

hearing. Is that I’m, I’m not explaining very clearly. It’s,

00:23:05.266 --> 00:23:09.900

it’s we, yeah, right. So, so in the case where we’re fully

00:23:09.900 --> 00:23:15.266

seated and have 93 is not the number. 5 is the number. Yeah, 00:23:15.266 --> 00:23:41.533

right. Yeah, yeah. Right. It’s what I’m saying. There there 00:23:41.533 --> 00:23:48.934

might be a situation in which the city council uh failed to,

00:23:48.934 --> 00:23:53.166

uh, approve of members for them. For whatever reason and in 00:23:53.166 --> 00:23:55.934

those situations, uh, you know, you know, let’s say they are,

00:23:55.934 --> 00:24:02.166

you know, there are only 4 or 5 people, and in those situations, 00:24:02.166 --> 00:24:04.467

3 could become the decorum, is that what you are, is that

00:24:04.467 --> 00:24:08.100

where, what this is for a public hearing. Yes, that seems

00:24:08.100 --> 00:24:10.934

like an extreme case, but I think that’s what it’s, what 00:24:10.934 --> 00:24:21.467

it’s saying, yup. Yes. I, I definitely understand that. I 00:24:21.467 --> 00:24:26.834

think that’s what it was written for. But if we are a

00:24:26.834 --> 00:24:37.000

full commission. And members are missing and we have 3. 00:24:37.000 --> 00:24:40.367

Members here, commissioners here, we’re not gonna be able 00:24:40.367 --> 00:24:45.567

to hold up. Correct. And I don’t think that’s clear. How

00:24:45.567 --> 00:24:55.734

this is written. Trying to think of a way of making it 00:24:55.734 --> 00:25:06.834

clear. Could we just do a matrix? That, you know, if 00:25:06.834 --> 00:25:12.734

they’re, you know, just 4 commissioners here, um, for a 00:25:12.734 --> 00:25:21.900

meeting and um uh. Uh That’s, uh, that, uh, I should say 4 00:25:21.900 --> 00:25:30.900

seated commissioners here. Uh You need at least 3. Oh, so the, 00:25:30.900 --> 00:25:33.634

uh, for the majority, you wouldn’t have a majority vote,

00:25:33.634 --> 00:25:37.934

right? If there are only 4 because Right. There’s only 2,

00:25:37.934 --> 00:25:42.300

right? And so you need at least another person, 5 seated 00:25:42.300 --> 00:25:48.734

members to. I don’t know. I think a matrix could possibly

00:25:48.734 --> 00:25:52.767

yeah. Um, if this is a concern of the commission, I think 00:25:52.767 --> 00:25:56.000

rather than try to edit it on the fly here staff could er

00:25:56.000 --> 00:25:59.166

could spend some time with this and propose something that is

00:25:59.166 --> 00:26:03.467

more clear, um, and, um, you know, so the commission could 00:26:03.467 --> 00:26:07.734

choose. You could, one action you might, you could consider

00:26:07.734 --> 00:26:13.567

taking tonight is a, is a proving. The, um, bylaws as 00:26:13.567 --> 00:26:18.033

presented here, um, with a direction to staff to, to edit

00:26:18.033 --> 00:26:22.100

this line. Um, and bring it back for approval at the next 00:26:22.100 --> 00:26:28.800

regular meeting. So move, I like. Yeah, I think you said it,

00:26:28.800 --> 00:26:32.500

yeah, you said it well, you know, so I would say that’s the 00:26:32.500 --> 00:26:36.200

the motion, right? I, I feel like I overstepped and made a

00:26:36.200 --> 00:26:41.567

motion. I’m not supposed to do that. I, uh, I’m making the 00:26:41.567 --> 00:26:49.400

motion on behalf of the words that you’ve. It has been 2nd,

00:26:49.400 --> 00:26:55.834

uh, all in favor of proving the bylaws. I Any opposed? All 00:26:55.834 --> 00:27:05.500

right, uh, Motion carries. Let’s see here. All right, uh, 00:27:05.500 --> 00:27:11.233

the next agenda item, uh, the consent agenda which includes 00:27:11.233 --> 00:27:16.033

uh uh proving the meeting minutes, um. Uh, are there any

00:27:16.033 --> 00:27:24.033

changes uh to the meeting minutes. Uh There is uh a chain, 00:27:24.033 --> 00:27:28.467

uh, I would like to suggest a change on minutes of uh

00:27:28.467 --> 00:27:32.934

February 12, 2025. On the first page it says uh the chair is 00:27:32.934 --> 00:27:44.500

excused. But if you go to page. Um, Uh, page 303. Which one is 00:27:44.500 --> 00:27:48.634

it? What, what, what document are you not the work session

00:27:48.634 --> 00:27:53.133

but the minute the regular meeting minute. Regular meeting. 00:27:53.133 --> 00:28:03.567

OK. Got it. Oh, I see it. Yeah, on this. 3 or 7 page 3 it says. 00:28:03.567 --> 00:28:05.734

Commissioner Chair Kevin reopened the public meeting.

00:28:05.734 --> 00:28:15.900

That Change. Yeah. Fraser wasn’t here. Yeah. I think 00:28:15.900 --> 00:28:29.233

that’s, that’s all. Right. that change Yeah. Comments, edits. 00:28:29.233 --> 00:28:34.500

All right, uh, can I get a motion to, uh, approve the 00:28:34.500 --> 00:28:38.867

consent agenda and the meeting minutes with the uh comments

00:28:38.867 --> 00:28:47.900

that uh Make the one added on page 30 7. OK. All right, uh, 00:28:47.900 --> 00:28:51.734

motion has been made, has, uh, can I get a second 2nd. All 00:28:51.734 --> 00:28:56.367

right, motion has been 2nd. Can I ask one question of clarity

00:28:56.367 --> 00:29:01.900

on last page of the work session minutes. says interim 00:29:01.900 --> 00:29:06.300

commissioner Chair Fraser. They not supposed to say vice chair

00:29:06.300 --> 00:29:19.467

or? Uh, she is the chair of the working. Um, session. OK. She 00:29:19.467 --> 00:29:26.300

is the chair for the working session. Also So uh Mr. Chair, 00:29:26.300 --> 00:29:29.133

members commission, I propose that we strike the words

00:29:29.133 --> 00:29:46.100

interim commissioner. Yes, yeah. OK All right So, um, So we do 00:29:46.100 --> 00:29:54.100

the motion. Um, so we’d like to make a motion to approve uh the 00:29:54.100 --> 00:29:59.934

uh consent agenda and uh meeting minutes with uh the and

00:29:59.934 --> 00:30:06.867

it’s of on the uh regular meeting February 12 to uh uh 00:30:06.867 --> 00:30:12.266

change from commission chair, uh, to commission, uh, or. Uh, 00:30:12.266 --> 00:30:17.033

Commissioner Frazier opening the public hearing and then on

00:30:17.033 --> 00:30:24.500

the working session changing the uh um. Number 5, their 00:30:24.500 --> 00:30:27.900

interim uh commissioner striking interim. Um-hum. All

00:30:27.900 --> 00:30:35.166

right. motion as we made, it has been 2nd. All in favor say 00:30:35.166 --> 00:30:45.367

aye, you opposed? All right, motion carries. The catch All 00:30:45.367 --> 00:30:52.000

right, uh, let’s see here. Do we have anything for a public 00:30:52.000 --> 00:31:00.367

hearing? OK. OK. Nothing for, uh, item number 6. let’s move 00:31:00.367 --> 00:31:06.734

to item number 7 other business, uh, 7.1, 2025 work plan. Mr.

00:31:06.734 --> 00:31:10.000

Chair, members of the commission, um, you’ll recall 00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:16.266

that the February work session, uh, we included in the packet

00:31:16.266 --> 00:31:20.033

the proposed 2025 planning commission work plan and 00:31:20.033 --> 00:31:22.800

discussed it briefly with the intent that this regular

00:31:22.800 --> 00:31:25.300

meeting, the commission would take a vote, so I, I don’t

00:31:25.300 --> 00:31:27.100

intend to give another presentation on it, but I’m

00:31:27.100 --> 00:31:29.900

happy to entertain any questions you may have on it

00:31:29.900 --> 00:31:32.934

before, um, Before taking a vote on improving the work plan. 00:31:32.934 --> 00:31:47.233

Right, thank you. Um Anyone need uh, any. Clarification 00:31:47.233 --> 00:31:52.166

regarding the 2025 work plan or can we get a motion to Approve 00:31:52.166 --> 00:32:01.900

the work plan. Right I’d like to make a motion to approve the 00:32:01.900 --> 00:32:09.800

work. All right, um, Can I get a second? second. Alright, the

00:32:09.800 --> 00:32:13.400

motion has been made, it has been 2nd. Any further 00:32:13.400 --> 00:32:20.900

discussion. Yes, um, I have, I have a question maybe for uh 00:32:20.900 --> 00:32:25.100

staff, um, in this work plan, I don’t see, you know, like

00:32:25.100 --> 00:32:30.467

anything related to budgets or departmental things. Uh, for, 00:32:30.467 --> 00:32:35.300

for the planning commission and the department, you know, uh.

00:32:35.300 --> 00:32:39.033

In their budgetary implication or. Um, and the other thing is

00:32:39.033 --> 00:32:42.767

maybe as part of the work plan is to add the training. You 00:32:42.767 --> 00:32:48.634

know, components that we, we just talked about. Uh And I

00:32:48.634 --> 00:32:54.500

think a year ago or, you know, some time we had a tool to 00:32:54.500 --> 00:32:59.834

Other city developments to see. You know how other cities are

00:32:59.834 --> 00:33:02.500

doing and planning commission has taken us to St. Louis Park, 00:33:02.500 --> 00:33:09.000

uh. to also Bloomer and all this and. Could this be part of

00:33:09.000 --> 00:33:12.233

the plan if you could, could those be in here? Is my 00:33:12.233 --> 00:33:18.734

question. Um, Mr. Chair, commissioner Waco and members

00:33:18.734 --> 00:33:21.200

of the commission. So I heard 3 questions there, budget, 00:33:21.200 --> 00:33:24.900

training, and tour are those are the three, OK, so on the

00:33:24.900 --> 00:33:29.767

first question of budget, um, so the certainly some of these

00:33:29.767 --> 00:33:33.500

projects do have um budget implications. Um, I can tell 00:33:33.500 --> 00:33:38.467

you that everything is budgeted for in the 2025 adopted budget

00:33:38.467 --> 00:33:41.000

that’s shown here, um, you know, typically it has not been the 00:33:41.000 --> 00:33:43.634

business of the planning commission to or other

00:33:43.634 --> 00:33:45.734

commissions to work on budgets aside from, of course, the

00:33:45.734 --> 00:33:49.567

budget advisory commission. advisors, the city council on

00:33:49.567 --> 00:33:53.834

the overall city budget, as you’re well aware, um, um, but, 00:33:53.834 --> 00:33:57.500

uh, anytime I’m, you know, certainly happy to entertain

00:33:57.500 --> 00:34:00.200

questions whether tonight or any other time about, you know, 00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:04.467

how how these, how these things are budgeted for, um, training,

00:34:04.467 --> 00:34:06.634

um, the training item is on the work plan, but I, I think we

00:34:06.634 --> 00:34:11.900

can. We can just take it as an understanding, um, based on 00:34:11.900 --> 00:34:14.033

your previous suggestion, Commissioner Wacker, that we

00:34:14.033 --> 00:34:17.834

will add the, um, Robert’s rules, uh, to our list of

00:34:17.834 --> 00:34:21.634

things that we’ll train on at at work session, um, and then 00:34:21.634 --> 00:34:25.834

the third thing, tour, um, for other commissioners who weren’t

00:34:25.834 --> 00:34:30.667

around, this was 2 years ago, 2023, that Commissioner Walker 00:34:30.667 --> 00:34:34.367

was talking about when the, when the city council enacted a

00:34:34.367 --> 00:34:36.033

moratorium on new development in the northern part of the

00:34:36.033 --> 00:34:40.800

city, and then we commenced that 6:10. development study, 00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:44.100

um, that resulted in, um, new minimum expectations for

00:34:44.100 --> 00:34:48.867

development, uh, kind of along the 610 corridor, um. We did do

00:34:48.867 --> 00:34:53.033

a tour of some uh example uh higher density mixed-use 00:34:53.033 --> 00:34:56.367

developments in Saint Louis Park and in Bloomington, um,

00:34:56.367 --> 00:34:59.100

that was informative for that for that study. We we took both

00:34:59.100 --> 00:35:02.133

the planning commission and the city council on that tour. Um, 00:35:02.133 --> 00:35:06.367

I agree that was very valuable for that work. Um, we will

00:35:06.367 --> 00:35:09.400

definitely do tours in the future that go outside Brooklyn

00:35:09.400 --> 00:35:12.767

Park. Uh, there will be a tour, um, this should be on your 00:35:12.767 --> 00:35:15.634

calendars. If it’s not, we will, we will make sure it is. Um,

00:35:15.634 --> 00:35:20.233

it’s on my list to announce later. reminder, but on April 00:35:20.233 --> 00:35:24.533

23rd, um, of this year in place of the planning commission work

00:35:24.533 --> 00:35:27.767

session, there’s going to be a development tour within

00:35:27.767 --> 00:35:31.033

Brooklyn Park, um, for both the planning commission and the 00:35:31.033 --> 00:35:34.800

city council, taking a look at um development that has been

00:35:34.800 --> 00:35:38.033

completed and some of the many development opportunities, uh,

00:35:38.033 --> 00:35:40.867

that exist for future development. So, uh, look for 00:35:40.867 --> 00:35:53.033

that. Yeah, yeah. I, I, I think, uh, that’s good, uh. Uh, I’ll, 00:35:53.033 --> 00:35:58.166

I’ll take it and, and, and the area of budgets, you know, for

00:35:58.166 --> 00:36:00.367

commissioners to be advocates for the department if there is 00:36:00.367 --> 00:36:04.567

any way in the, you know, in the future, there are any.

00:36:04.567 --> 00:36:11.000

Either You know what role we could play to advocate for the 00:36:11.000 --> 00:36:16.400

department function, so that’s where I’m. Coming from, and, uh,

00:36:16.400 --> 00:36:19.100

I think, uh, we can take it in the work session, but the rest

00:36:19.100 --> 00:36:25.467

of it is very good and thank you again, thanks. All right, 00:36:25.467 --> 00:36:29.734

uh, motion has been made. It has been 2nd any further

00:36:29.734 --> 00:36:34.133

discussion. All right, uh, let’s vote, uh, all in favor 00:36:34.133 --> 00:36:42.000

say aye. Any pose? Right, motion carries. All right, 00:36:42.000 --> 00:36:48.667

let’s move to the next agenda item, any um. Discussion items

00:36:48.667 --> 00:36:57.467

for the good of the group, right? Um I, I have noticed 00:36:57.467 --> 00:37:03.400

over time that um When the planning Commission, um, makes 00:37:03.400 --> 00:37:07.166

that decision on on projects that have appeared before the

00:37:07.166 --> 00:37:13.000

commission, um, usually goes to the city council. And um Most 00:37:13.000 --> 00:37:16.767

of the time, the liaison for the city council will tell us,

00:37:16.767 --> 00:37:23.033

you know, give us an update. But um on other items that we 00:37:23.033 --> 00:37:25.467

have approved that maybe the city council have also approved

00:37:25.467 --> 00:37:31.634

or whatever. Uh, we don’t hear about it anymore. Is there um a 00:37:31.634 --> 00:37:36.634

mechanism that we can follow up because I know that we approved

00:37:36.634 --> 00:37:42.367

several big projects. And um It’s been years and uh you know 00:37:42.367 --> 00:37:49.367

we haven’t really um Uh He um And anything, the last thing I

00:37:49.367 --> 00:37:53.533

heard that there was one, I had my brother the last time. The, 00:37:53.533 --> 00:37:56.166

uh, development by the uh police station right there. And,

00:37:56.166 --> 00:37:58.834

um, you know, and uh after years, uh, you know, we know

00:37:58.834 --> 00:38:03.100

we’re told that the president had some difficulties, uh, 00:38:03.100 --> 00:38:07.900

raising funds, um, you know, so we, we’d like to know. You know,

00:38:07.900 --> 00:38:10.634

um, you know, maybe have an idea of things like that until 00:38:10.634 --> 00:38:15.734

either the uh project is canceled. Or It’s no more

00:38:15.734 --> 00:38:20.166

viable. So is, is there a mechanism that we can just, you 00:38:20.166 --> 00:38:22.934

know, not that there’s much we can do, but we’d like to. Um,

00:38:22.934 --> 00:38:26.300

you know, have an idea of, uh, you know, what, what, you know,

00:38:26.300 --> 00:38:30.934

that, you know, what, what we’ve approved, um, you know, 00:38:30.934 --> 00:38:38.033

has, uh. done. Yeah. Uh yeah, OK, Mr. Chair, Commissioner,

00:38:38.033 --> 00:38:40.667

members of the commission. I, I think that’s a good idea, you 00:38:40.667 --> 00:38:45.233

know, they’re, they’re, it does happen on occasion, um, that

00:38:45.233 --> 00:38:48.000

the planning commission recommends an approval of a of

00:38:48.000 --> 00:38:50.634

a project like a new building or whatever it is. that and 00:38:50.634 --> 00:38:56.000

goes to the city council they approve it, um, and then, um.

00:38:56.000 --> 00:38:58.634

You look around the city and you don’t see it being built in

00:38:58.634 --> 00:39:00.934

a year or 2 or 3 passes and you’re wondering whats going on. 00:39:00.934 --> 00:39:04.734

I think that’s what you’re saying, right? Yeah, um, so

00:39:04.734 --> 00:39:07.734

yeah, you know, there’s all sorts of circumstances that can

00:39:07.734 --> 00:39:10.400

arise that cause something to not be built or to be delayed, 00:39:10.400 --> 00:39:12.533

but I think, I think what your request is, if I’m

00:39:12.533 --> 00:39:15.734

understanding it, is that perhaps we as staff could, you

00:39:15.734 --> 00:39:20.533

know, maybe do a citywide scan or update for you maybe at a 00:39:20.533 --> 00:39:24.767

work session on, on what the status of some of those.

00:39:24.767 --> 00:39:29.100

Projects are, we would be happy to do that. um. And maybe the

00:39:29.100 --> 00:39:32.800

commission’s interested, yeah, maybe it’s uh I’m thinking of a 00:39:32.800 --> 00:39:38.200

different city, uh, but that is that on the website and the

00:39:38.200 --> 00:39:43.166

building department to show here are the, the status of 00:39:43.166 --> 00:39:45.767

projects and I thought I read that or saw it somewhere or at

00:39:45.767 --> 00:39:48.300

least I try to keep track of Mr. Chair, members of the

00:39:48.300 --> 00:39:53.734

commission, we as staff do maintain and interactive map um 00:39:53.734 --> 00:39:59.000

online that, that does show, um, Uh, projects that are about to

00:39:59.000 --> 00:40:01.734

come before the commission, projects that have been 00:40:01.734 --> 00:40:06.467

approved by the city council projects that are under

00:40:06.467 --> 00:40:10.734

construction and then projects that um have been opened in 00:40:10.734 --> 00:40:15.500

maybe the last year or so. So we have those 4 categories, um.

00:40:15.500 --> 00:40:18.900

What it doesn’t do is what Commissioner Odama is asking

00:40:18.900 --> 00:40:22.467

about, you know, whatever happened to that one project. 00:40:22.467 --> 00:40:25.734

It’ll eventually just fall off of that map. Um, so what I

00:40:25.734 --> 00:40:30.100

think we can do is we can present that map, um, at, at a 00:40:30.100 --> 00:40:33.634

work session, but also talk about some of those other major

00:40:33.634 --> 00:40:35.634

projects that have fallen off the radar and what their status

00:40:35.634 --> 00:40:39.000

are, because not, not all of them are dead, um, some of them

00:40:39.000 --> 00:40:41.867

are still in process. Sure, yeah, yeah, but I don’t know, I 00:40:41.867 --> 00:40:44.800

just thought I saw it again, it’s probably a different city,

00:40:44.800 --> 00:40:49.133

but uh. where it’s still, you know, the developer is still,

00:40:49.133 --> 00:40:52.900

you know, try seeking funding uh funding been paused for 00:40:52.900 --> 00:40:56.266

whatever, right, but reasons, uh, you know, they’re not

00:40:56.266 --> 00:41:00.533

funding or whatever it is, so that’s stopping that, uh, from 00:41:00.533 --> 00:41:07.266

moving forward, but I think that’s a great idea. All right.

00:41:07.266 --> 00:41:13.800

Any other discussion items? All right, let’s move on to the 00:41:13.800 --> 00:41:18.467

next agenda, uh, verbal reports and announcement, uh, council

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member liaison is not present, um. Paul you have something 00:41:25.734 --> 00:41:30.900

that I can do that when we get to my right, sounds great. uh, 00:41:30.900 --> 00:41:35.200

commissioner comments. Any further comments? All right,

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staff liaison comments. OK, Commissioner Chair Kain,

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members of the commission, bear with me. I do have several 00:41:40.667 --> 00:41:43.834

items. Um, one is in place of council member Mugabe, who

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couldn’t be here tonight. I can summarize recent council

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actions forwarded by the planning commission, so I’m at 00:41:50.567 --> 00:41:54.900

the regular meeting of the council on February 24th, um,

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the council approved on consent the conditional use permit for

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the social club and banquet hall at 8432 Xerxes Avenue 00:42:02.900 --> 00:42:06.667

North. They also approved on consent, uh, the sign variants

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from True. that was the variance at what at what’s

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going to be the Clean freak car wash that had been previously 00:42:12.133 --> 00:42:17.166

approved over at the Edinburgh Center area. Um, and then they

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approved the first reading of the minor zoning code text 00:42:21.533 --> 00:42:24.567

revisions that staff had proposed and that the planning

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commission forwarded, um, the second reading of those. second

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reading meaning final approval will be March 24th. Um, also at 00:42:34.300 --> 00:42:38.567

the March 24th council meeting, um. Uh, the once and future

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chair of the planning commission, Chair Kain will 00:42:41.233 --> 00:42:44.567

present the 2024 annual report. Um, I think you’re still on the

00:42:44.567 --> 00:42:50.000

calendar for that, right? I am, I’m thinking about passing it 00:42:50.000 --> 00:42:55.834

off though. Um, a reminder that, uh, and I just sent an email

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reminder about this a few minutes ago before the meeting,

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um, this coming Monday, March 17th, is a joint city council 00:43:04.166 --> 00:43:06.834

planning commission work session focused on the

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Northwest Growth area plan, um, that starts at 6 o’clock. 6 00:43:11.133 --> 00:43:18.567

o’clock, um, upstairs in room A 203, um, that is a, it is an

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EDA night for the council members, so they will be having 00:43:21.767 --> 00:43:25.533

their regular EDA meeting following the work session. So,

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um, it’s at 6 o’clock, we’re planning to keep that meeting

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to about an hour, um, so that the EDA can have their regular 00:43:32.100 --> 00:43:34.667

meeting after that. Um, it’s going to be really interesting,

00:43:34.667 --> 00:43:38.567

so I hope you can all make it and looking for your feedback

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on the next steps of that planning process. Um, that will, 00:43:42.634 --> 00:43:47.000

that meeting will take the place of the work session slot

00:43:47.000 --> 00:43:50.266

for the 4th Monday this month, so we will not have a work 00:43:50.266 --> 00:43:53.300

session on the 4th or the 4th Wednesday, we will not have a

00:43:53.300 --> 00:43:56.033

work session on the 4th Wednesday of the month. Um, we

00:43:56.033 --> 00:44:00.767

will have a regular meeting on April 9th as usual, and then as 00:44:00.767 --> 00:44:05.567

I just mentioned earlier on April 23rd, there will be that

00:44:05.567 --> 00:44:08.834

development tour, um, within Brooklyn Park, um, with the

00:44:08.834 --> 00:44:12.634

planning commission and the city council that goes from 5 00:44:12.634 --> 00:44:15.200

o’clock um until 8 o’clock. So I know for some that’ll be a

00:44:15.200 --> 00:44:18.567

challenge, but I hope most of you can make it 5:00 to 8

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o’clock. April 23rd. And we, we’ve sent all this in email 00:44:24.233 --> 00:44:26.467

that we will send reminders with all this information so

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you have it. Do think we need to prepare for for the March 00:44:31.867 --> 00:44:37.100

17th, all the materials will be provided at the meeting. Yeah.

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Awesome. All right, uh, With that sad, um, First, 00:44:52.100 --> 00:44:55.867

congratulations to uh all the uh commissioners that were

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reappointed, uh, excited to have you guys back, so, uh,

00:44:59.100 --> 00:45:04.000

looking forward to another great year. Um, And with that,

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