Brooklyn Park Planning Commission Re-elects Officers for 2025
The Brooklyn Park Planning Commission re-elected its current leadership during its annual organizational meeting Wednesday, maintaining continuity as the nine-member body prepares for another year of reviewing development proposals.
Kevin was re-elected as chair, with Kathy Frazier continuing as vice chair and Tahiti Waco remaining as general officer. All three positions were filled unanimously without opposition from other commissioners.
The commission also adopted its 2025 bylaws with a directive to staff to clarify language regarding quorum requirements for public hearings. Commissioner Frazier raised concerns about potential conflicts in the current wording that could allow public hearings with fewer than the required majority of commissioners present.
Commissioners approved their 2025 work plan and discussed adding Robert's Rules training to their work session schedule. Commissioner Waco suggested the training focus on procedures most relevant to planning commission operations rather than comprehensive parliamentary procedure.
The commission also requested staff provide periodic updates on the status of previously approved development projects, including those that may have stalled or been delayed. Staff agreed to present an interactive development map at a future work session showing project statuses throughout the city.
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▸Meeting Analysis
Brooklyn Park Planning Commission held their annual organizational meeting on March 12, 2025. The commission re-elected their current officers: Kevin as Chair, Kathy Frazier as Vice Chair, and Tahiti Waco as General Officer. They adopted the 2025 bylaws with a direction to staff to clarify quorum requirements for public hearings. The commission approved their 2025 work plan and discussed various procedural matters including Robert's Rules training and project follow-up mechanisms.
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704. I now call this meeting to order, um, let’s start with uh 00:00:12.467 --> 00:00:55.767
roll call. Present. Present Well Awesome. Let’s stand for 00:00:55.767 --> 00:01:01.834
the Pledge of Allegiance. I, I pledge allegiance to the flag 00:01:01.834 --> 00:01:05.400
of the United States of America and to the republic for which
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it stands, one nation under God indivisible with liberty and
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justice for all. All right, the next, uh, agenda item uh 00:01:20.233 --> 00:01:22.467
explanation by chair, please be advised that the public
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hearings are recorded and televised live on cable
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television and web stream over the internet at
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comments from the seating area. If you want to be heard and
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made a part of the public work group, please go to the podium
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or if participating remotely, turn on your camera, speak into 00:01:42.233 --> 00:01:45.467
the microphone, stating your full name and address. Please
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sign the public hearing logbook on the table near the entrance
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to the council chambers if you are attending in person to 00:01:52.300 --> 00:01:55.200
ensure accuracy of name and address in the public record.
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Please note that the agen agenda for tonight’s uh uh
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media indicates that the commission chair has the 00:02:02.500 --> 00:02:06.233
prerogative to evoke a time limit for speakers during any
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public hearing in the interest of maintaining focus and the 00:02:10.000 --> 00:02:12.634
effective use of time. Thank you in advance for your
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cooperation. The planning commission consists of 9
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resident volunteer members appointed by the city council 00:02:20.233 --> 00:02:25.467
to advise the city council on planning and land use issues.
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The commission discusses and evaluates development proposals
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based on zoning regulations and comprehensive plan policies. 00:02:33.000 --> 00:02:35.800
The planning commission vote is a recommendation that is
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forwarded to the city council for official and final action. 00:02:41.500 --> 00:02:49.467
All right, we’ll move to the next agenda item, um. Or the
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next item of business is to uh approve the agenda. Are there 00:02:53.467 --> 00:03:02.900
any additions or changes to the agenda? Uh yeah, uh, 00:03:02.900 --> 00:03:09.233
commissioner, uh, before we have uh. Oh, I thought you
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wanted some changes made. Now. Minutes. All right. Sounds 00:03:12.567 --> 00:03:20.900
great. I’ll make a motion. No. All right, the, uh, motion has 00:03:20.900 --> 00:03:28.634
been made. It has been 2nd, all in favor. Say aye. All right,
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motion carries. So, um, are we to go to the next agenda item, 00:03:34.934 --> 00:03:39.133
uh, which are the, the required duties. The election of
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officers, Mr. Chair. Sounds great. Let’s do that. Uh, so, 00:03:42.934 --> 00:03:46.033
uh, Mr. Chair, members of the planning commission, I can just
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introduce this really briefly before turning it back over to
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the chair. Um, so there, this is the organization of the 00:03:53.033 --> 00:03:57.300
annual organizational meeting where the commission elects
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officers of chair, vice chair, and general officer, the, um, 00:04:02.166 --> 00:04:04.800
the agenda also notes the election of a business forward
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liaison. Let me just say a couple words about that. Uh,
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you may recall last year, um, the commission actually struck 00:04:12.000 --> 00:04:18.634
that lead. on position from the Bylaws because that group no
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longer exists. However, there is, um, some interest, as I 00:04:21.500 --> 00:04:26.100
understand it, and reconstituting that, that, that,
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that business forward group sometime this year. So what I 00:04:30.467 --> 00:04:33.266
would propose is that um because the, the group doesn’t
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exist now, it’s, it’s probably not necessary to appoint a
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liaison, but in the event that that group is reconstituted 00:04:41.400 --> 00:04:43.867
during 2025, uh, the commission could revisit the bylaws, add
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that lease. back in if it’s so chose to, and then elect a
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liaison to serve in that role. So my suggestion tonight would 00:04:51.734 --> 00:04:54.133
be simply to elect those 1st 3 officers, the chair, vice chair,
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and General officer. Um Of course, right now, the chair is, 00:05:02.467 --> 00:05:07.800
is, is Chehan, uh, vice chair, uh Kathy Frazier, general
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officer, uh, Tahiti Wacko. Um And um, so those are the 00:05:13.734 --> 00:05:17.367
incumbents, uh, as I mentioned in an email the other day, uh,
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the makeup of the commission is not changing, um, the 00:05:22.667 --> 00:05:25.000
commission did reappoint or the council rather did reappoint
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the three commissioners who were up, uh, for reappointment.
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So, um, anybody who is, um, currently serving and serving 00:05:32.367 --> 00:05:35.033
throughout this year is eligible for any of these.
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Officer positions. So with that, I’ll turn it back over to the
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chair. All right, uh, thanks, uh. Let’s start with the 00:05:45.767 --> 00:05:54.233
election of officers, so we have the chair position um. Um 00:05:54.233 --> 00:05:57.767
anybody interested and uh uh being considered for that, I am,
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you know, again more than willing to, you know, maintain 00:06:00.634 --> 00:06:05.634
the position. It’s, uh, but no one interested in also. Then we
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can have a debate. I don’t know. For 2 hours. Yeah. All right. 00:06:16.033 --> 00:06:23.634
Uh Make motion. Go ahead. I make a motion to appoint Chair, 00:06:23.634 --> 00:06:32.100
Kevin. To be vice chair for this coming cycle. A second All 00:06:32.100 --> 00:06:40.166
right. Darn it No no no. All right. Any, uh, motion has been 00:06:40.166 --> 00:06:49.834
made, um, um, it has been 2, All in favor, say aye aye. 00
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yeah. You have. Uh, speech I’d like to say, um. Uh, Mr. 00:07:05.800 --> 00:07:10.100
Chairman, uh, thank you very much for the wonderful job 00:07:10.100 --> 00:07:14.800
you’ve done this year and uh it’s an honor to have you, uh,
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reappointed for a second term, so. Thank you. Thank you. All 00:07:22.300 --> 00:07:27.367
right, and the motion has been made. It has been 2nd all in
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favor. I In the post All right, motion carries. Um, the next is 00:07:37.266 --> 00:07:44.734
the vice chair, uh, The commissioner, Frazier’s 00:07:44.734 --> 00:07:49.767
currently serving in that position, um. Um, anybody else
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interested in fulfilling that role? If not, uh, uh, can I get 00:07:56.567 --> 00:08:06.100
a motion to Are you interested in refilling. 00, I’d like to 00:08:06.100 --> 00:08:11.900
make a motion to reappoint uh the current vice president. Uh, 00:08:11.900 --> 00:08:16.400
oh, sorry, vice chair. Can we please promote her to vice
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president. And no last election did not go very well for the 00:08:22.767 --> 00:08:30.734
vice president. We want this, we want this one to go better 00:08:30.734 --> 00:08:35.000
appointed the current vice chair to another term. Like
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Right, motion has been made. It has been 2nd, uh. Uh, all in 00:08:41.533 --> 00:08:51.567
favor. Oh, God. Good. Uh, well, um, I think uh the vice chair, 00:08:51.567 --> 00:08:55.767
uh, the, the work she’s done speaks for herself, uh, when in
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the absence of the chair, the the vice has done a wonderful
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job, so. Uh, it’s, uh, my honor to, you know, uh. nominate her, 00:09:05.934 --> 00:09:11.467
so I, I hope she wins. Thank you. Saying is, it’s been 00:09:11.467 --> 00:09:15.467
absolute pleasure, uh, have you as vice chair and uh you’ve
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stepped up every time, uh, um, so it is an honor to, to have 00:09:20.533 --> 00:09:25.266
you as vice chair, so thank you appreciate it. Um, all right,
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motion has been made that that’s been 2nd. We’ve had some
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discussion. All in favor, say aye. I the pose. All right, 00:09:35.467 --> 00:09:40.634
Motion carries. All right, uh, the general officer currently 00:09:40.634 --> 00:09:48.100
served by Commissioner Waco, um. Um, anyone else interested in?
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General officer. Are you interested? All right, uh. Yeah 00:10:00.100 --> 00:10:15.867
it Yeah it Sounds great. All right, uh. Uh Any comments or I 00:10:15.867 --> 00:10:25.500
didn’t right. you know I’ll second that. All right, um, All 00:10:25.500 --> 00:10:34.734
in favor. the post. All right, motion carries. Congratulations. 00:10:34.734 --> 00:10:56.900
I And All right, uh, let’s see here. Uh, the next agenda item 00:10:56.900 --> 00:11:00.667
is 4.2 adoption of the bylaws, is that? Yeah, yes, Mr. Chair, 00:11:00.667 --> 00:11:03.834
members of the commission, um, this year’s staff are not
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proposing any, any changes to the bylaws over the last year,
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we will, we will fill in the blanks for the officers based
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on the election that just occurred and put those names in, 00:11:14.500 --> 00:11:17.734
um, otherwise what’s before you is what’s what staff is
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recommending for the bylaws, you know, we do, I will just 00:11:21.467 --> 00:11:24.634
say some at times as staff, we do propose if the commission
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would ever be interested in moving the meeting to 6 p.m.
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and putting that in the bylaws we would be in. in favor of
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that, but we understand that that doesn’t work for 00:11:32.367 --> 00:11:34.767
everybody’s schedule, and I, in all seriousness, I won’t
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propose that tonight because we are missing a couple, a couple
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of commission members and if it doesn’t work for everybody, we
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need to make sure it does if, if, if that’s where the 00:11:43.000 --> 00:11:47.100
commission were to go, so, um, That’s all I had to say about
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the bylaws and but the commission is welcome to, of
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course, discuss and propose any, any changes that it wishes to 00:11:52.734 --> 00:11:58.300
discuss. All right, thank you. Um, let’s see here, do I have
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the bylaws in front of me. Oh yeah, I do. All right, great. 00:12:03.634 --> 00:12:10.567
All right, um, uh, the bylaws are in front of us, um, any 00:12:10.567 --> 00:12:14.767
Discussion, uh, with regards to the bylaws or? Anything you
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would like to change or see different at this time we can,
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I believe we can revisit this. There are issues commissioner. 00:12:27.166 --> 00:12:34.200
I, I’d like to make a, you know, uh, suggestion for a change. Um, 00:12:34.200 --> 00:12:39.634
the, uh, staff mentioned that uh we, we have issues with the
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um meeting time. Uh, changing it from 6 o’clock, my 00:12:43.100 --> 00:12:49.000
suggestion would be, why don’t we follow the uh Uh, like 7
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times, uh, uh, thing, you know, so, so that when the Dallas 7 00:12:52.767 --> 00:12:55.567
time changes, we drop them a meeting to 6 or sorry, we, you
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know, to 6 o’clock and we it. But then this we push it back 00:13:00.767 --> 00:13:06.266
to to 7 because uh because, you know, um, 7 o’clock in winter
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it’s a little bit harder to uh to attend than uh 7 o’clock
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this summer. Just a suggestion to consider. I Yeah Thank you. 00:13:22.100 --> 00:13:32.367
I get that. Um I think, uh, I think, uh, I mean, that’s a 00:13:32.367 --> 00:13:38.734
great point, um. Uh, because it is bylaw, you know, it would be
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nice to have. For the commissioners here to all. Uh 00:13:45.634 --> 00:13:49.400
Have a debate, if you will, on the, on the timeline, but I
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love your suggestion. Um, obviously we’ll have to work 00:13:52.667 --> 00:13:57.900
with the staff as well, you know, but uh. I think we should
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have this just my opinion that we should have um uh all the. 00:14:03.233 --> 00:14:09.734
commissioners here that, that debate. For discussion. With
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you. At the person this. Will you, let’s uh Am I going to 00:14:16.233 --> 00:14:29.467
guarantee? I, uh, no, no. I, I, I will just How, how that 00:14:29.467 --> 00:14:35.934
Sounds great. Uh, so, Mr. Chair, Dama, the question is how would 00:14:35.934 --> 00:14:41.266
it affect staff if, if we, if the commission chose to do base 00:14:41.266 --> 00:14:44.400
start times on daylight saving time, that, that’s what I mean,
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I, um, I think it could create some confusion, um, with both 00:14:50.233 --> 00:14:53.900
staff and the public, you know, because we have, of course,
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public hearings at these meetings, um. You know, I, I
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think having a consistent start time would be important, um, so 00:15:04.767 --> 00:15:06.500
people just know if, you know, if it’s a planning commission
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meeting, it’s a, it’s at 7 o’clock or, or 6 o’clock 00:15:10.133 --> 00:15:11.800
whatever the commission decides that that would be my
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suggestion. I mean, it’s that we can deal with it, we could,
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you know, make the change twice a year just like we all do with
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our clocks. Um, but, um, my suggestion would be to just 00:15:21.800 --> 00:15:26.100
choose a time and and stick with it. But again, I, I, I
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agree with that, the conversation should probably
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wait until we have all 9 commissioners present. Was that 00:15:38.300 --> 00:15:44.166
All right, any other discussion on the bylaws? Yes. Chair, one 00:15:44.166 --> 00:15:51.100
question I have is on, on bylaws, uh, number one. B In 00:15:51.100 --> 00:15:56.533
the event that there are More public hearings than can be
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reasonably expected to be concluded by 11 p.m. That’s 00:16:01.767 --> 00:16:09.367
like 4 hours window between 7. To 11 p.m. And Um, we haven’t
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reached to that level as far as I’ve been here. But, uh, where 00:16:14.800 --> 00:16:20.000
is 11 p.m. coming from, and I just wanna know. Uh, that Has 00:16:20.000 --> 00:16:24.467
to be 4 hours window or, you know, uh. Just wanted to know
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where. That 11 comes, can it be 10? Can it be 9? Just a 00:16:31.734 --> 00:16:35.467
question about that, Mr. Chair, members of the commission, um,
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you know, the history of that, I would imagine that, uh, at
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least at the time that it was proved the bylaws probably 00:16:40.867 --> 00:16:46.266
matched. A similar rule the city council had for itself.
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There’s been a lot of that just trying to, you know, match with
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the city council does, um. But, um, but no, that, I mean that 00:16:54.200 --> 00:16:56.834
there’s nothing magic about the 4 hours. That’s something the
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commission could decide for itself to change to a different, 00:17:00.467 --> 00:17:05.467
a different time if it’s so chose. But to your point,
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Commissioner Wacker, we, you know, as of late, at least, we
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have not had meetings that have Approach that, yeah. I’m, I’m 00:17:15.634 --> 00:17:20.800
not, oh, sorry. I’m not to release to just change unless, 00:17:20.800 --> 00:17:23.667
you know, majority, you know, many people needs to, to change,
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but. I do feel that a little bit lengthy. In terms of Scope. 00:17:30.467 --> 00:17:32.734
We haven’t reached to that level, but if this is
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consistent with the city council. I think I’m fine with
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it. OK. And, and one Just share one last question is, uh, uh, 00:17:43.934 --> 00:17:50.800
the last page. Uh, talks about any rule of order not covered 00:17:50.800 --> 00:17:54.500
by these bylaws shall be governed by the Robot rule of
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Order of Standard. parliamentary procedure and
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That is really to mention that every year if there is kind of. 00:18:04.567 --> 00:18:08.567
Maybe you know, 5 10 minutes presentation about Robert’s
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rule of law. Uh, that would be good. I have seen where that is 00:18:13.100 --> 00:18:16.367
very, very important in running commissions when I was in the
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budget advisory commission. Um Not everybody is, you know, 00:18:21.300 --> 00:18:24.767
yeah, the robot’s rule of law is out there. You know, the
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book is there, but. How the city You know, procedure
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function, you know, when we run commissions if, you know, if, 00:18:33.533 --> 00:18:37.300
for some, it could be repeat, for some it could be, you know,
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refreshing and new. Uh, I would like to see if there is any way 00:18:42.000 --> 00:18:46.233
to add that, you know, um, at the beginning of the session.
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Uh, not every meetings, but, you know, cycle. There will be 00:18:52.100 --> 00:18:56.000
some brief presentation about Robert rule of law. Are you OK
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with that being at one of the working sessions. Yes, I’m OK
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with that to be one of the working sessions, yes. Uh 00:19:07.100 --> 00:19:08.634
excellent suggestion, Commissioner Waco. Uh, we’ve
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done that in the past and we’ll be happy to add that to, um, 00:19:12.000 --> 00:19:16.634
you know, the list of, um, I’m kind of trainings that we’re
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doing over the course of the year at work sessions, so
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thanks for that suggestion. Great. Thank you. OK. Jeff The 00:19:28.000 --> 00:19:39.634
light is on, so. Did you have something? now OK. You’re like. 00:19:39.634 --> 00:19:48.133
All right, uh. Sorry. Can I point out something to the uh 00:19:48.133 --> 00:19:54.033
the commissioner, um, if, if you look at this, uh Uh, bylaws, 00:19:54.033 --> 00:19:59.367
uh, if, if you look at number 1112, 13, going down. There are
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some aspects of the robust rule of law that has been mentioned 00:20:03.367 --> 00:20:10.500
here as, as it affects this meeting. So, um. We Maybe we 00:20:10.500 --> 00:20:13.367
will need to visit it, but we may not need to take a full
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course on it because it’s, you know, if it can be complicated,
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we should just take the parts that affects us. And, and, and, 00:20:21.800 --> 00:20:27.100
uh, listed out here as it is, you know, to simplify so that
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we don’t spend all time the betting on. On, on, on, on the 00:20:31.900 --> 00:20:35.367
role aspects instead of 70 public as as we’re supposed to
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do, that’s just my, my suggestion, we should
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streamline things as much as possible. With without creating 00:20:41.533 --> 00:20:44.734
no chaos, so that we become, you know, uh focused around.
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Our men Function in a while, you know, we know, we know why
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we are here and what we have to do. Sounds great. I like that 00:20:53.233 --> 00:21:00.166
suggestion, so and the training session and the working session, 00:21:00.166 --> 00:21:05.734
uh, uh, focusing on the uh Not the entire book about what’s
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important to, uh, uh. Uh This commission Sounds great. 00:21:16.734 --> 00:21:26.367
Frazier. Yes, so there seems to be a conflict with the quorum. 00:21:26.367 --> 00:21:30.867
That’s required, so it’s majority. Um, of members 00:21:30.867 --> 00:21:38.033
appointed. And then it says that public hearing should not
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contain. More than 3 or fewer. So Essentially we can have a 00:21:48.233 --> 00:21:55.166
public here and without a quorum if that’s the case. What 00:21:55.166 --> 00:22:03.634
So she’s 4A. That shall consist of a minimum of a majority of 00:22:03.634 --> 00:22:07.533
current appointed and seated commissioners in no case shall
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a public hearing be held if only 3 commissioners or fewer 00:22:11.867 --> 00:22:16.000
are present. I think that’s uh Go ahead. Oh maybe you were
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just going to say, a chair came in, um, and Commissioner 00:22:21.000 --> 00:22:24.000
Frazier, I think the intent there is in the event that
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there are fewer than 9 commissioners seated as in
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there are open seats that haven’t been appointed. That 00:22:32.567 --> 00:22:37.400
will reduce the quorum for a meeting. Um, so let’s say the
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quorum was Um I don’t, so you could imagine a situation where 00:22:46.467 --> 00:22:50.800
there’s a lower quorum than we would have when, when all 9 are 00:22:50.800 --> 00:22:55.500
seated, um, but in no in any case, regardless of how many
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are seated, um, you can’t, you have to have 3 for a public 00:23:00.300 --> 00:23:05.266
hearing. Is that I’m, I’m not explaining very clearly. It’s,
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it’s we, yeah, right. So, so in the case where we’re fully
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seated and have 93 is not the number. 5 is the number. Yeah, 00:23:15.266 --> 00:23:41.533
right. Yeah, yeah. Right. It’s what I’m saying. There there 00:23:41.533 --> 00:23:48.934
might be a situation in which the city council uh failed to,
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uh, approve of members for them. For whatever reason and in 00:23:53.166 --> 00:23:55.934
those situations, uh, you know, you know, let’s say they are,
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you know, there are only 4 or 5 people, and in those situations, 00:24:02.166 --> 00:24:04.467
3 could become the decorum, is that what you are, is that
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where, what this is for a public hearing. Yes, that seems
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like an extreme case, but I think that’s what it’s, what 00:24:10.934 --> 00:24:21.467
it’s saying, yup. Yes. I, I definitely understand that. I 00:24:21.467 --> 00:24:26.834
think that’s what it was written for. But if we are a
00:24:26.834 --> 00:24:37.000
full commission. And members are missing and we have 3. 00:24:37.000 --> 00:24:40.367
Members here, commissioners here, we’re not gonna be able 00:24:40.367 --> 00:24:45.567
to hold up. Correct. And I don’t think that’s clear. How
00:24:45.567 --> 00:24:55.734
this is written. Trying to think of a way of making it 00:24:55.734 --> 00:25:06.834
clear. Could we just do a matrix? That, you know, if 00:25:06.834 --> 00:25:12.734
they’re, you know, just 4 commissioners here, um, for a 00:25:12.734 --> 00:25:21.900
meeting and um uh. Uh That’s, uh, that, uh, I should say 4 00:25:21.900 --> 00:25:30.900
seated commissioners here. Uh You need at least 3. Oh, so the, 00:25:30.900 --> 00:25:33.634
uh, for the majority, you wouldn’t have a majority vote,
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right? If there are only 4 because Right. There’s only 2,
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right? And so you need at least another person, 5 seated 00:25:42.300 --> 00:25:48.734
members to. I don’t know. I think a matrix could possibly
00:25:48.734 --> 00:25:52.767
yeah. Um, if this is a concern of the commission, I think 00:25:52.767 --> 00:25:56.000
rather than try to edit it on the fly here staff could er
00:25:56.000 --> 00:25:59.166
could spend some time with this and propose something that is
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more clear, um, and, um, you know, so the commission could 00:26:03.467 --> 00:26:07.734
choose. You could, one action you might, you could consider
00:26:07.734 --> 00:26:13.567
taking tonight is a, is a proving. The, um, bylaws as 00:26:13.567 --> 00:26:18.033
presented here, um, with a direction to staff to, to edit
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this line. Um, and bring it back for approval at the next 00:26:22.100 --> 00:26:28.800
regular meeting. So move, I like. Yeah, I think you said it,
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yeah, you said it well, you know, so I would say that’s the 00:26:32.500 --> 00:26:36.200
the motion, right? I, I feel like I overstepped and made a
00:26:36.200 --> 00:26:41.567
motion. I’m not supposed to do that. I, uh, I’m making the 00:26:41.567 --> 00:26:49.400
motion on behalf of the words that you’ve. It has been 2nd,
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uh, all in favor of proving the bylaws. I Any opposed? All 00:26:55.834 --> 00:27:05.500
right, uh, Motion carries. Let’s see here. All right, uh, 00:27:05.500 --> 00:27:11.233
the next agenda item, uh, the consent agenda which includes 00:27:11.233 --> 00:27:16.033
uh uh proving the meeting minutes, um. Uh, are there any
00:27:16.033 --> 00:27:24.033
changes uh to the meeting minutes. Uh There is uh a chain, 00:27:24.033 --> 00:27:28.467
uh, I would like to suggest a change on minutes of uh
00:27:28.467 --> 00:27:32.934
February 12, 2025. On the first page it says uh the chair is 00:27:32.934 --> 00:27:44.500
excused. But if you go to page. Um, Uh, page 303. Which one is 00:27:44.500 --> 00:27:48.634
it? What, what, what document are you not the work session
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but the minute the regular meeting minute. Regular meeting. 00:27:53.133 --> 00:28:03.567
OK. Got it. Oh, I see it. Yeah, on this. 3 or 7 page 3 it says. 00:28:03.567 --> 00:28:05.734
Commissioner Chair Kevin reopened the public meeting.
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That Change. Yeah. Fraser wasn’t here. Yeah. I think 00:28:15.900 --> 00:28:29.233
that’s, that’s all. Right. that change Yeah. Comments, edits. 00:28:29.233 --> 00:28:34.500
All right, uh, can I get a motion to, uh, approve the 00:28:34.500 --> 00:28:38.867
consent agenda and the meeting minutes with the uh comments
00:28:38.867 --> 00:28:47.900
that uh Make the one added on page 30 7. OK. All right, uh, 00:28:47.900 --> 00:28:51.734
motion has been made, has, uh, can I get a second 2nd. All 00:28:51.734 --> 00:28:56.367
right, motion has been 2nd. Can I ask one question of clarity
00:28:56.367 --> 00:29:01.900
on last page of the work session minutes. says interim 00:29:01.900 --> 00:29:06.300
commissioner Chair Fraser. They not supposed to say vice chair
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or? Uh, she is the chair of the working. Um, session. OK. She 00:29:19.467 --> 00:29:26.300
is the chair for the working session. Also So uh Mr. Chair, 00:29:26.300 --> 00:29:29.133
members commission, I propose that we strike the words
00:29:29.133 --> 00:29:46.100
interim commissioner. Yes, yeah. OK All right So, um, So we do 00:29:46.100 --> 00:29:54.100
the motion. Um, so we’d like to make a motion to approve uh the 00:29:54.100 --> 00:29:59.934
uh consent agenda and uh meeting minutes with uh the and
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it’s of on the uh regular meeting February 12 to uh uh 00:30:06.867 --> 00:30:12.266
change from commission chair, uh, to commission, uh, or. Uh, 00:30:12.266 --> 00:30:17.033
Commissioner Frazier opening the public hearing and then on
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the working session changing the uh um. Number 5, their 00:30:24.500 --> 00:30:27.900
interim uh commissioner striking interim. Um-hum. All
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right. motion as we made, it has been 2nd. All in favor say 00:30:35.166 --> 00:30:45.367
aye, you opposed? All right, motion carries. The catch All 00:30:45.367 --> 00:30:52.000
right, uh, let’s see here. Do we have anything for a public 00:30:52.000 --> 00:31:00.367
hearing? OK. OK. Nothing for, uh, item number 6. let’s move 00:31:00.367 --> 00:31:06.734
to item number 7 other business, uh, 7.1, 2025 work plan. Mr.
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Chair, members of the commission, um, you’ll recall 00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:16.266
that the February work session, uh, we included in the packet
00:31:16.266 --> 00:31:20.033
the proposed 2025 planning commission work plan and 00:31:20.033 --> 00:31:22.800
discussed it briefly with the intent that this regular
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meeting, the commission would take a vote, so I, I don’t
00:31:25.300 --> 00:31:27.100
intend to give another presentation on it, but I’m
00:31:27.100 --> 00:31:29.900
happy to entertain any questions you may have on it
00:31:29.900 --> 00:31:32.934
before, um, Before taking a vote on improving the work plan. 00:31:32.934 --> 00:31:47.233
Right, thank you. Um Anyone need uh, any. Clarification 00:31:47.233 --> 00:31:52.166
regarding the 2025 work plan or can we get a motion to Approve 00:31:52.166 --> 00:32:01.900
the work plan. Right I’d like to make a motion to approve the 00:32:01.900 --> 00:32:09.800
work. All right, um, Can I get a second? second. Alright, the
00:32:09.800 --> 00:32:13.400
motion has been made, it has been 2nd. Any further 00:32:13.400 --> 00:32:20.900
discussion. Yes, um, I have, I have a question maybe for uh 00:32:20.900 --> 00:32:25.100
staff, um, in this work plan, I don’t see, you know, like
00:32:25.100 --> 00:32:30.467
anything related to budgets or departmental things. Uh, for, 00:32:30.467 --> 00:32:35.300
for the planning commission and the department, you know, uh.
00:32:35.300 --> 00:32:39.033
In their budgetary implication or. Um, and the other thing is
00:32:39.033 --> 00:32:42.767
maybe as part of the work plan is to add the training. You 00:32:42.767 --> 00:32:48.634
know, components that we, we just talked about. Uh And I
00:32:48.634 --> 00:32:54.500
think a year ago or, you know, some time we had a tool to 00:32:54.500 --> 00:32:59.834
Other city developments to see. You know how other cities are
00:32:59.834 --> 00:33:02.500
doing and planning commission has taken us to St. Louis Park, 00:33:02.500 --> 00:33:09.000
uh. to also Bloomer and all this and. Could this be part of
00:33:09.000 --> 00:33:12.233
the plan if you could, could those be in here? Is my 00:33:12.233 --> 00:33:18.734
question. Um, Mr. Chair, commissioner Waco and members
00:33:18.734 --> 00:33:21.200
of the commission. So I heard 3 questions there, budget, 00:33:21.200 --> 00:33:24.900
training, and tour are those are the three, OK, so on the
00:33:24.900 --> 00:33:29.767
first question of budget, um, so the certainly some of these
00:33:29.767 --> 00:33:33.500
projects do have um budget implications. Um, I can tell 00:33:33.500 --> 00:33:38.467
you that everything is budgeted for in the 2025 adopted budget
00:33:38.467 --> 00:33:41.000
that’s shown here, um, you know, typically it has not been the 00:33:41.000 --> 00:33:43.634
business of the planning commission to or other
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commissions to work on budgets aside from, of course, the
00:33:45.734 --> 00:33:49.567
budget advisory commission. advisors, the city council on
00:33:49.567 --> 00:33:53.834
the overall city budget, as you’re well aware, um, um, but, 00:33:53.834 --> 00:33:57.500
uh, anytime I’m, you know, certainly happy to entertain
00:33:57.500 --> 00:34:00.200
questions whether tonight or any other time about, you know, 00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:04.467
how how these, how these things are budgeted for, um, training,
00:34:04.467 --> 00:34:06.634
um, the training item is on the work plan, but I, I think we
00:34:06.634 --> 00:34:11.900
can. We can just take it as an understanding, um, based on 00:34:11.900 --> 00:34:14.033
your previous suggestion, Commissioner Wacker, that we
00:34:14.033 --> 00:34:17.834
will add the, um, Robert’s rules, uh, to our list of
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things that we’ll train on at at work session, um, and then 00:34:21.634 --> 00:34:25.834
the third thing, tour, um, for other commissioners who weren’t
00:34:25.834 --> 00:34:30.667
around, this was 2 years ago, 2023, that Commissioner Walker 00:34:30.667 --> 00:34:34.367
was talking about when the, when the city council enacted a
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moratorium on new development in the northern part of the
00:34:36.033 --> 00:34:40.800
city, and then we commenced that 6:10. development study, 00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:44.100
um, that resulted in, um, new minimum expectations for
00:34:44.100 --> 00:34:48.867
development, uh, kind of along the 610 corridor, um. We did do
00:34:48.867 --> 00:34:53.033
a tour of some uh example uh higher density mixed-use 00:34:53.033 --> 00:34:56.367
developments in Saint Louis Park and in Bloomington, um,
00:34:56.367 --> 00:34:59.100
that was informative for that for that study. We we took both
00:34:59.100 --> 00:35:02.133
the planning commission and the city council on that tour. Um, 00:35:02.133 --> 00:35:06.367
I agree that was very valuable for that work. Um, we will
00:35:06.367 --> 00:35:09.400
definitely do tours in the future that go outside Brooklyn
00:35:09.400 --> 00:35:12.767
Park. Uh, there will be a tour, um, this should be on your 00:35:12.767 --> 00:35:15.634
calendars. If it’s not, we will, we will make sure it is. Um,
00:35:15.634 --> 00:35:20.233
it’s on my list to announce later. reminder, but on April 00:35:20.233 --> 00:35:24.533
23rd, um, of this year in place of the planning commission work
00:35:24.533 --> 00:35:27.767
session, there’s going to be a development tour within
00:35:27.767 --> 00:35:31.033
Brooklyn Park, um, for both the planning commission and the 00:35:31.033 --> 00:35:34.800
city council, taking a look at um development that has been
00:35:34.800 --> 00:35:38.033
completed and some of the many development opportunities, uh,
00:35:38.033 --> 00:35:40.867
that exist for future development. So, uh, look for 00:35:40.867 --> 00:35:53.033
that. Yeah, yeah. I, I, I think, uh, that’s good, uh. Uh, I’ll, 00:35:53.033 --> 00:35:58.166
I’ll take it and, and, and the area of budgets, you know, for
00:35:58.166 --> 00:36:00.367
commissioners to be advocates for the department if there is 00:36:00.367 --> 00:36:04.567
any way in the, you know, in the future, there are any.
00:36:04.567 --> 00:36:11.000
Either You know what role we could play to advocate for the 00:36:11.000 --> 00:36:16.400
department function, so that’s where I’m. Coming from, and, uh,
00:36:16.400 --> 00:36:19.100
I think, uh, we can take it in the work session, but the rest
00:36:19.100 --> 00:36:25.467
of it is very good and thank you again, thanks. All right, 00:36:25.467 --> 00:36:29.734
uh, motion has been made. It has been 2nd any further
00:36:29.734 --> 00:36:34.133
discussion. All right, uh, let’s vote, uh, all in favor 00:36:34.133 --> 00:36:42.000
say aye. Any pose? Right, motion carries. All right, 00:36:42.000 --> 00:36:48.667
let’s move to the next agenda item, any um. Discussion items
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for the good of the group, right? Um I, I have noticed 00:36:57.467 --> 00:37:03.400
over time that um When the planning Commission, um, makes 00:37:03.400 --> 00:37:07.166
that decision on on projects that have appeared before the
00:37:07.166 --> 00:37:13.000
commission, um, usually goes to the city council. And um Most 00:37:13.000 --> 00:37:16.767
of the time, the liaison for the city council will tell us,
00:37:16.767 --> 00:37:23.033
you know, give us an update. But um on other items that we 00:37:23.033 --> 00:37:25.467
have approved that maybe the city council have also approved
00:37:25.467 --> 00:37:31.634
or whatever. Uh, we don’t hear about it anymore. Is there um a 00:37:31.634 --> 00:37:36.634
mechanism that we can follow up because I know that we approved
00:37:36.634 --> 00:37:42.367
several big projects. And um It’s been years and uh you know 00:37:42.367 --> 00:37:49.367
we haven’t really um Uh He um And anything, the last thing I
00:37:49.367 --> 00:37:53.533
heard that there was one, I had my brother the last time. The, 00:37:53.533 --> 00:37:56.166
uh, development by the uh police station right there. And,
00:37:56.166 --> 00:37:58.834
um, you know, and uh after years, uh, you know, we know
00:37:58.834 --> 00:38:03.100
we’re told that the president had some difficulties, uh, 00:38:03.100 --> 00:38:07.900
raising funds, um, you know, so we, we’d like to know. You know,
00:38:07.900 --> 00:38:10.634
um, you know, maybe have an idea of things like that until 00:38:10.634 --> 00:38:15.734
either the uh project is canceled. Or It’s no more
00:38:15.734 --> 00:38:20.166
viable. So is, is there a mechanism that we can just, you 00:38:20.166 --> 00:38:22.934
know, not that there’s much we can do, but we’d like to. Um,
00:38:22.934 --> 00:38:26.300
you know, have an idea of, uh, you know, what, what, you know,
00:38:26.300 --> 00:38:30.934
that, you know, what, what we’ve approved, um, you know, 00:38:30.934 --> 00:38:38.033
has, uh. done. Yeah. Uh yeah, OK, Mr. Chair, Commissioner,
00:38:38.033 --> 00:38:40.667
members of the commission. I, I think that’s a good idea, you 00:38:40.667 --> 00:38:45.233
know, they’re, they’re, it does happen on occasion, um, that
00:38:45.233 --> 00:38:48.000
the planning commission recommends an approval of a of
00:38:48.000 --> 00:38:50.634
a project like a new building or whatever it is. that and 00:38:50.634 --> 00:38:56.000
goes to the city council they approve it, um, and then, um.
00:38:56.000 --> 00:38:58.634
You look around the city and you don’t see it being built in
00:38:58.634 --> 00:39:00.934
a year or 2 or 3 passes and you’re wondering whats going on. 00:39:00.934 --> 00:39:04.734
I think that’s what you’re saying, right? Yeah, um, so
00:39:04.734 --> 00:39:07.734
yeah, you know, there’s all sorts of circumstances that can
00:39:07.734 --> 00:39:10.400
arise that cause something to not be built or to be delayed, 00:39:10.400 --> 00:39:12.533
but I think, I think what your request is, if I’m
00:39:12.533 --> 00:39:15.734
understanding it, is that perhaps we as staff could, you
00:39:15.734 --> 00:39:20.533
know, maybe do a citywide scan or update for you maybe at a 00:39:20.533 --> 00:39:24.767
work session on, on what the status of some of those.
00:39:24.767 --> 00:39:29.100
Projects are, we would be happy to do that. um. And maybe the
00:39:29.100 --> 00:39:32.800
commission’s interested, yeah, maybe it’s uh I’m thinking of a 00:39:32.800 --> 00:39:38.200
different city, uh, but that is that on the website and the
00:39:38.200 --> 00:39:43.166
building department to show here are the, the status of 00:39:43.166 --> 00:39:45.767
projects and I thought I read that or saw it somewhere or at
00:39:45.767 --> 00:39:48.300
least I try to keep track of Mr. Chair, members of the
00:39:48.300 --> 00:39:53.734
commission, we as staff do maintain and interactive map um 00:39:53.734 --> 00:39:59.000
online that, that does show, um, Uh, projects that are about to
00:39:59.000 --> 00:40:01.734
come before the commission, projects that have been 00:40:01.734 --> 00:40:06.467
approved by the city council projects that are under
00:40:06.467 --> 00:40:10.734
construction and then projects that um have been opened in 00:40:10.734 --> 00:40:15.500
maybe the last year or so. So we have those 4 categories, um.
00:40:15.500 --> 00:40:18.900
What it doesn’t do is what Commissioner Odama is asking
00:40:18.900 --> 00:40:22.467
about, you know, whatever happened to that one project. 00:40:22.467 --> 00:40:25.734
It’ll eventually just fall off of that map. Um, so what I
00:40:25.734 --> 00:40:30.100
think we can do is we can present that map, um, at, at a 00:40:30.100 --> 00:40:33.634
work session, but also talk about some of those other major
00:40:33.634 --> 00:40:35.634
projects that have fallen off the radar and what their status
00:40:35.634 --> 00:40:39.000
are, because not, not all of them are dead, um, some of them
00:40:39.000 --> 00:40:41.867
are still in process. Sure, yeah, yeah, but I don’t know, I 00:40:41.867 --> 00:40:44.800
just thought I saw it again, it’s probably a different city,
00:40:44.800 --> 00:40:49.133
but uh. where it’s still, you know, the developer is still,
00:40:49.133 --> 00:40:52.900
you know, try seeking funding uh funding been paused for 00:40:52.900 --> 00:40:56.266
whatever, right, but reasons, uh, you know, they’re not
00:40:56.266 --> 00:41:00.533
funding or whatever it is, so that’s stopping that, uh, from 00:41:00.533 --> 00:41:07.266
moving forward, but I think that’s a great idea. All right.
00:41:07.266 --> 00:41:13.800
Any other discussion items? All right, let’s move on to the 00:41:13.800 --> 00:41:18.467
next agenda, uh, verbal reports and announcement, uh, council
00:41:18.467 --> 00:41:25.734
member liaison is not present, um. Paul you have something 00:41:25.734 --> 00:41:30.900
that I can do that when we get to my right, sounds great. uh, 00:41:30.900 --> 00:41:35.200
commissioner comments. Any further comments? All right,
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staff liaison comments. OK, Commissioner Chair Kain,
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members of the commission, bear with me. I do have several 00:41:40.667 --> 00:41:43.834
items. Um, one is in place of council member Mugabe, who
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couldn’t be here tonight. I can summarize recent council
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actions forwarded by the planning commission, so I’m at 00:41:50.567 --> 00:41:54.900
the regular meeting of the council on February 24th, um,
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the council approved on consent the conditional use permit for
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the social club and banquet hall at 8432 Xerxes Avenue 00:42:02.900 --> 00:42:06.667
North. They also approved on consent, uh, the sign variants
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from True. that was the variance at what at what’s
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going to be the Clean freak car wash that had been previously 00:42:12.133 --> 00:42:17.166
approved over at the Edinburgh Center area. Um, and then they
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approved the first reading of the minor zoning code text 00:42:21.533 --> 00:42:24.567
revisions that staff had proposed and that the planning
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commission forwarded, um, the second reading of those. second
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reading meaning final approval will be March 24th. Um, also at 00:42:34.300 --> 00:42:38.567
the March 24th council meeting, um. Uh, the once and future
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chair of the planning commission, Chair Kain will 00:42:41.233 --> 00:42:44.567
present the 2024 annual report. Um, I think you’re still on the
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calendar for that, right? I am, I’m thinking about passing it 00:42:50.000 --> 00:42:55.834
off though. Um, a reminder that, uh, and I just sent an email
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reminder about this a few minutes ago before the meeting,
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um, this coming Monday, March 17th, is a joint city council 00:43:04.166 --> 00:43:06.834
planning commission work session focused on the
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Northwest Growth area plan, um, that starts at 6 o’clock. 6 00:43:11.133 --> 00:43:18.567
o’clock, um, upstairs in room A 203, um, that is a, it is an
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EDA night for the council members, so they will be having 00:43:21.767 --> 00:43:25.533
their regular EDA meeting following the work session. So,
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um, it’s at 6 o’clock, we’re planning to keep that meeting
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to about an hour, um, so that the EDA can have their regular 00:43:32.100 --> 00:43:34.667
meeting after that. Um, it’s going to be really interesting,
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so I hope you can all make it and looking for your feedback
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on the next steps of that planning process. Um, that will, 00:43:42.634 --> 00:43:47.000
that meeting will take the place of the work session slot
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for the 4th Monday this month, so we will not have a work 00:43:50.266 --> 00:43:53.300
session on the 4th or the 4th Wednesday, we will not have a
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work session on the 4th Wednesday of the month. Um, we
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will have a regular meeting on April 9th as usual, and then as 00:44:00.767 --> 00:44:05.567
I just mentioned earlier on April 23rd, there will be that
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development tour, um, within Brooklyn Park, um, with the
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planning commission and the city council that goes from 5 00:44:12.634 --> 00:44:15.200
o’clock um until 8 o’clock. So I know for some that’ll be a
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challenge, but I hope most of you can make it 5:00 to 8
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o’clock. April 23rd. And we, we’ve sent all this in email 00:44:24.233 --> 00:44:26.467
that we will send reminders with all this information so
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you have it. Do think we need to prepare for for the March 00:44:31.867 --> 00:44:37.100
17th, all the materials will be provided at the meeting. Yeah.
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Awesome. All right, uh, With that sad, um, First, 00:44:52.100 --> 00:44:55.867
congratulations to uh all the uh commissioners that were
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reappointed, uh, excited to have you guys back, so, uh,
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looking forward to another great year. Um, And with that,
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