I'll make a motion to approve a second motion by Johnson second by was it labadie no oh cycle I think Chris and I both said it yes okay we'll give it to Chris okay I was looking down all right all in favor by roll call Johnson hi hi Michael I won burg i Derby I the agenda is approved the next item is the consent agenda this is a series of actions which are being considered for adoption under a single motion we have for tonight the first is the City Council regular meeting its from April 27th 2020 the second is approval to verify the claims list which is our payables the third is to accept the proposal for inspection of the am very well and the last is approving regular appointment of Andy Esslinger as their Street inspector there's any questions that can be answered quickly we could cover those now or an item can we move to the regular agenda for further discussion if there's no change I would look for a motion to approve the consent agenda sure it's cycle and I'll make a motion to approve the items on the consent agenda and adopt the resolutions they're in motion second by cycle that means emotionally cycles second by Johnson all in favor by roll call Johnson aye Labadie I cycle i Sundberg yes Zerbe aye the consent agenda is approved the next item is matters from the floor this is an opportunity for residents to speak to the council about items which are not on tonight's agenda no action would be taken tonight but council may direct staff to bring it back at a future meaning for possible action and I believe we're using the raise hand feature to get recognized as it found in the participants button at the bottom or top of the list of camera hit participants you'll see raised hand and then we will unmute you and that you have you're a damn monkey Ivan hi this is a muskie I'm a resident of st. Louis Park but I'm actually here representing a friend of mine Cathy Bakken lives at 58 85 Millstreet and she has had some issues with her water recently her she had a private well on her property that has recently went dry as of Friday April 17th and she's been speaking with both the city of Shorewood and the city of Excelsior to try to connect to city water and has been running into some issues with the city of Shorewood in terms of getting permission to place her private water line in the right of way and you can see there on the screen that is a missbach ins property and the proposal is to bring the private water line jones destination street which is on the back side of her property and where you can see that red dot on the top right hand side of the screen that's the existing fire hydrant and water main that runs down to that street and the individual who is at fifty eight thirty there currently has a private water line in the right-of-way and miss Parkins proposal would be to run her water line directly parallel to that individuals water line into the backyard and then bring the water line into her residence okay Larry again I'm sorry go ahead well I was just gonna say so one of the things I think her contractor spoke with an individual at the city I'm not expect exactly sure who he spoke to but she was told that they basically told her that that wasn't possible due to city regulations of not allowing private utilities in the right away and so I just kind of wanted to see what the possibility is as everyone is aware of water is an essential element in order to live currently she's been living off using her neighbor to refill a hundred gallon tank for her water on almost a daily basis and so she's you know had been dealing with this issue since mid-april and needs to find a solution okay Larry are you familiar with this or yes both Greg LaHood and I have been and been dealing with this where the red dot was up on the top is actually Division Street and one of the issues we run into is that our policies been that we do not extend long water services down the public right away without an extension of the the main itself this is an interesting school and that the water main that's there is actually a city of Excelsior water in and this lot this the subject lot is actually within the city of Shorewood so to get water service without extending the main would be to extend I'm estimating on the screen probably 200 feet with it down up parallel to the public roadway within the public right away and you know this becomes a difficult decision we certainly want as many people hooked up the city water as is feasible but from a practice the end point we do not allow the the water services ooh parallel the roadway and encroach along the right-of-way of another property because if you allow one person to do that you need to allow all of them to do that and then it becomes impossible to maintain that service if it would develop a leak basically if you have let's say two or three of these paralleling the roadway when you dig down to fix water service the one water service you're going to end up removing all three of them to do the repairs plus the fact you have the the idea that these services because of the length and because they're paralleling the roadway if they if they do rupture and all of a sudden you're taking up the public roadway as well so our practice has been to expect the utility be at Shorewood or excelsior to extend the water mean to the property so that you have a what would be considered a normal or proper connection and excelsior isn't willing to extend their Mane to this property that's my understanding at this point we haven't they haven't said no yet when I spoke with Dino's with Christy and Morgan I decided that I'd reach out to them there's like five properties at this around the south end the division they're the potentially benefit engage their interest this this water main extension is not on Excelsior's radar right now presumably if there was interest from you know five or four immediate connections they would have some interest but that's where we're at right now that interest funder went out to be is the water main on Mill Street that's shown on the map is that in Excelsior yes so they're both Excelsior is there a possibility to hook up to that main ah you basically have the same scenario on Mill Street plus it becomes just a little more complicated in that you have to apply to the county to be able to use their public right away I say yeah I'm just a complicate that a little bit more according to what I know is that Mill Street is under a moratorium for digging because it's a newer Road from Hennepin County like the other issue with with her doing say so if there's another you know possibility in terms of doing like yeah another another well the issue there is that new law you know requires doesn't allow for the well to be drilled by a sewer line which in her front yard is where her current well is and if you were to do another well saying the same location in the deeper spot they wouldn't allow it because it runs but we beneath the sewer line and so really the the most feasible and economical available option is taking off the existing water line on on the street behind her house there and running it up to the house parallel to the Attic that existing water line of another individual at least it I mean for you know for at least temporary for sure if not permanently if they aren't willing to extend the right-of-way she's already received permission from the city Excelsior to connect to their water now it's just getting the water to her house so what's the solution I mean do we need to work with Excelsior's or something I mean this resident hasn't had water for weeks that's okay that's getting a little crazy we need to find a solution for this person is there something that we can do to cooperate with Excelsior to I mean maybe there is some opportunity with these other properties is there any Shorewood connection in that area I know that's kind of where everything kind of converges how far are we off from I suppose that's Chania sand down there there's probably not even a Sherwood main that's even remotely close to this area I'm assuming that's correct and I think if you know my my concern is the utility within the public right away if city of Excelsior is willing to allow them to tap into one of their neighbors that's highly unusual but if acceptors willing to do that then that gets it out of the public right away that's a solution but they can work that out with the city of Excelsior but I again yet we don't allow in the public right away because it makes it impossible to mean more than one service in the public right away but this is Excelsior as well so they would have to would they be servicing any potential issues that could arise with any of these properties because it's know typically typically where the the the practice has been and you know everything anytime you have one city providing utility to another things become complicated our practice has been in other areas where Excelsior provides the main if you will or the water the city's responsible for the service city of Sherwood is responsible for the service within the public right away from the main to the edge of the public right away at that point the homeowner takes it from that point so if they can make their connection outside the public right away in city of Excelsior is willing to do that that addresses our issues that's a little bit unusual because the city's want a shutoff valve for each property and not just common shutoff valve for obvious reasons okay atom detecting you some more direction yeah can I um can i am i okay to share my screen I've got a few pictures of kind of where we're proposing to do it I just want to kind of point it out to the council if I may I think Greg is working on that for you yep I'm just selecting the photos now so here's so here's that fire hydrant that we talked about that was up on the right-hand side of that picture off of um destination there with the curb stops that are currently in the public right-of-way if you see that blue painted line which is this line then extending up this was the individual line that I was telling about talking about now that is currently a private water line that's in the public right-of-way up to this individuals property that is that long driveway in the back of the picture and the is what we would propose is running a similar line parallel to that just past or you know underneath that driveway and then missbach ins property is up to the right-hand side of that picture if you were to take and basically go up into those trees and take a straight right it's not that house you can see in the background it's the one that's closest up here that you're not able to see in that picture and so that proposal would look something like that basically just to kind of show what we were thinking and I think you know with um I understand that it's generally the city's guidance you know that they don't allow private property in the public right away but I think from these pictures you can see that they've already done so in this case and I can't imagine that it wouldn't be any less invasive to do so again especially given the current situation with this individual not having water for almost a month now so Larry if we extended water to those other her neighbors that don't have water right now it would it require new hydrant so you're extending the line further and then that would solve the issue of these various properties tapping into it is that kind of what needs to be done a hydrant made extended but of key importance to this is it's Excelsior's mean well yes so I'm wondering can we I mean as a maybe a concession to get this person some water can you install you know allow this to go forward with you know maybe a discussion with Excelsior with extending water to those other properties and then at some point tap into that one so it kind of alleviates the problem you're taking two steps but I mean you have a resident without water we got to do something ayyyy I agree we can do that you know there's always there's always a scenario first of all Excelsior would need to approve that extension and then who's paying for it number two number three um you know there's there's no such thing once it's in the ground it's in the ground and nobody wants to change it I mean ask us the the fact of it you know I'm not sure I appreciate the picture of this existing service that's along there I don't know that that certainly went in before my time because I certainly would have allowed that so I don't know what had been worked out in the past but again my my concern is once you put another service down there if you go to repair in either one of those services you're gonna take both of them out certainly just because you know they're not dealing with a number one shovel they're dealing with a machine that private one with a one that's shared increase the size of that pipe so you saw one pipe I was just serving two ohm's we're I guess the my question is where does this stop you know and when we started talking about this I believe if I've counted correctly there's five homes up there so when the next one comes down though the shoot where are we going with this but yes that I mean that it's possible you know I guess we've got other areas within the city that do not have water available and they may have to you know one of the options is I think it's better to say that without an air test it's required by the Health Department they may not be able to put their well in where the existing one was but that doesn't mean that there aren't other locations on a lot so and again this is hard I mean we want people to connect up to city water but we just don't want to face with a difficult situation down the line by law notes so yes we can't explore with city of Excelsior the extension of a mean I'm not sure how patient or how viable the current situation is for the homeowner to to be able to withstand that length of process certainly those are things we can explore Larry what is your estimation if we go this route of exploring it and contacting the city of Excelsior what's kind of time frame are we looking at do you think I would think by the time we hammer out a cooperative agreement we're probably looking at July August timeframe go ahead have you looked at a temporary water supply given the weather we certainly had them in our neighborhoods when they were replacing pipes they had blocks and blocks yellow pipe for temporary service I don't know if that's feasible have not looked at that but what when I was what I had anticipated and apparently it's not the case it's very common to run a hose if they're on good standing with their neighbours hose bib the hose bib you basically reverse feed the system that's done very commonly that's what I was anticipating so that you avoid having fill a container every day so you know we can explore this further if that's counsels desire I think you need to in the beginning this is water is an essential service you know I would see the same if it was a gas line during the winter or something I mean you need you need water so they do have access to a well so when dry you know they I mean like I said we have other areas in town water is not available that would help a read rill a new well or replace the bump that's there is it a pump issue or they have to dig and punch a new well that's got to go deeper different aquifer so is this just a maintenance issue or is it like they need a new well I don't know that okay so so the contractor told her that she needed a new wale so they she had to pump looked at a couple of different times because that's what she thought the original problem was and then she was told cheated in the new well and she was told that a new well in the existing location isn't possible because of the new laws regarding them water drinking water being underneath the sewage lines that run into her house so whenever they built the existing well you know they put in the sewer lines either later or they amended the laws to you know protect obviously the contamination of the drinking water which makes sense and so the only option for her to put in a well would be in the backyard and the only way to get through the backyard would be she would have to go through her neighbor's yard and would have to remove several trees and different landscape in order to get back there and the contractor stated that given the current saturation of the ground it's not possible to do that right now because she would just sink in there with his mission which so I mean if that's the case now anytime that there was any existing you know future problems with the new well she would have trouble getting to it and the you know generally the water saturation in the ground isn't going to allow her to maintain that well well it's a crazy year anyway so maybe I'm Larry could you investigate some you know temporary options of extending some water to her well we go to Excelsior and see if they would extend their water line it sounds like it might be a long-term solution and you know take the time to do it right you will certainly do that that you know might be interested in hooking up no one's interested in hooking up until this is something like this happens then all of a sudden you know we need it now we will certainly explore that okay Adam it sounds like our staff has some direction on that and work with Larry and Greg going forward yeah I know I appreciate it I guess you know the one thing I just kind of would like to get out of his kind of a time frame obviously as we talked about you know it's been almost a month now and you know we need to try to see get something going and I know the contractor you know in terms of either installing the line down the right away that we talked about or whether you guys we do with some type of temporary installations like I'm you know she's already talked to the city of Excelsior and they've approved her to connect to the existing connection and run that line it just she had to get permission from the city of Shorewood in order to run that line in the right away and you know I know I understand that it's not generally the policies that allow you know to run that line but I don't you know without getting too technical into the details a little bit you know the city of Shorewood ordinance allows for private use of the right-of-way of encroachment into the right-of-way for you know private utilities in the case of necessity and when consistent with you know not tearing up roads and in this case you wouldn't have to tear up any Road in order to to make this connection happen into the private property of of missbach and it would just have to get permission to run it parallel down the side of the right-of-way or side of the road there okay I believe we have our direction and we will move as quickly as we possibly can I there's enough variables and enough moving parts that I'm not prepared to give you a time schedule you're gonna you know we will be in touch with you quickly but there's a number of pieces to work out here yep no completely understandable and then you know obviously this guy you know keep miss Bach and in in contact and you know if you have any questions or need anything further from her or her contractor you know please keep us involved so that we can do what we can to you know resolve the situation as quickly as we can okay thank you all right thank you I see we have a raised hand is it yes okay there you go we lost you for a second can we get your name and everything for the record yes Maeve galavan I live at two to six eight zero Galpin Lane okay let me know if something goes up with my internet and I'll get back in here um but I live as you all know in the air by Galpin Lake across highway 7 from the rest of Sherwood and this is a neighborhood from my understanding speaking with folks that have lived here that many families have lived here for 20 years but it's now an area that's really turning over many families here have young kids or they're starting to have kids on one side of us they have three kids elementary school age on the other side they have one with one on the way on the other side of them they have two elementary schools school children and then up on the hill they have two elementary school children and that's just on our little tiny road here and I say that because the kids here can't get to school safely they can't walk across köppen lake or across highway seven they can't walk down our road Galpin Lake Road and I have one neighbor that has older children and when they were younger they tried to figure out a way that they could get their kids bused to school without having to pay and the district made them pay from what I understand because they were technically within walking distance to the school but that's assuming that the kids could walk across highway 7 anyway I bring this up tonight because this is the number-one conversation among myself and my neighbors here and I can only imagine that it's going to continue to grow there is a sidewalk that comes down from seven or from Chanhassen on Gallup and Lake Road and I joke and call it we kind of all call it the side sidewalk to nowhere because as soon as it gets to Shorewood it stops and it doesn't go anywhere and my proposal is to ask you all to come over to our neck of the woods and walk our road and try and get across highway seven and what's so important about crossing highway seven is that's where the rest of Sherwood is that's where the parks are that's where the community center is that's where the trails are even if we could access the trail in Excelsior one of the others around there we could probably find a safe way to get to the parks and I wanted to bring up something that I had because of also the Senior Living Center that recently went in in our neck of the woods on Sherwood strategic plan I think this was from the last couple of years one of the sections says quality of life and it says in 2025 Sherwood has amenities to connect people of all ages to be active and engaged in the and I'm assuming that should have been in the community and then it says in 2025 Sherwood has completed trail connections for fun better health and mobility another piece of this I wanted to bring to your attention is that there was a report that I found that I think was also around 2018 maybe 2016 2018 that's a very long report with lots of text one of the sentences in it says Sherwood residents are generally well served by the existing park system with the exception of the islands and a small pocket south of Galpin lake most areas of the community are within 1/2 or 1/2 to one mile radius of neighborhood park facilities but the problem about that is it continues to go on and say that it's they're going to focus on developing existing parks and I believe that my neighbors will come and speak to you as well but I wanted to let you know that we really feel somewhat disregarded because also in your budget for capital improvement plan 2019 and I know this has been in discussion for many years it says under trails Galpin Lake roads sidewalk but it's pushed all the way out to 20 28 which is the last year that it's available on the budget I understand that financials are significant and that's very important but all that Sherwood I feel like stands for and from the documents I've read and my experience here I think it really would be something significant if you could all come over to this side and kind of see for yourselves we'd really like to connect to the rest of Shorewood safely and have our kids be able to walk to school thank you miss gallon that was very well stated I can tell you that you know it's been a couple of years I think Larry since we met with Minnesota Department of Transportation in regards to trying to connect the sidewalk to the streetlight crossing on Oak Street yeah there you know I complain to them that they did the project on the excelsior side but stopped at the Shorewood side and question why that was they they didn't have a very good answer at the time they said there's some grant money available and they used it for that excelsior portion I did notice since then they put up that fencing which is apparently for small animal protection that says on their right I have been you know lobbying the state for some time to try to get a pedestrian safe pedestrian passage at least along the highway there I've pointed out many times that you can look at Google Maps the satellite views and you see what I call a goat trail crossing highway 7 which is clear sign that people from your neighborhood are running across highway 7 yes and that median to get to Excelsior which of course is fraught with peril I guess I would say for lack of a better phrase and they've seen that they're aware of it but as you mentioned financing it doesn't come quickly you know and I continue we need to continue to kind of be the squeaky wheel to hopefully move that up we did hear some signs that they may be looking at something Greg wasn't there something like last year they talked about well I submitted a bonding request was sent on spec this year and so the session is still going on so that was our next step Gilbert the grant application we had before the issue with the gala permite trail was the linear foot cost given the size of cainy wallets need along that it's a very expensive trail portion that's why we need some state participation in this as well so we're exploiting that afternoon as well maybe just to give some context on you bringing up on the conversation so Gulpin lake kind of going back a number of years probably 2014 ish maybe we looked at connecting that gulf and like trail and we did have neighborhood meetings we've kind of divided devised a plan and what it would look like so it's not just on an issue of on the city of Shorewood wanting to do something but we also had to have the watershed involved and there were a number of water issues then we had the state with highway 7 so it just kind of became this project that despite the desire the entire council wanting to put a sidewalk down that road it just became extremely complicated and then we did get bids back it was cost prohibitive it was several millions of dollars so we kind of continued working with state legislature or that and as our administrator said David Ozma qui von't applied for grants so to my knowledge we continue to look for a way how can we do that with gotham lake we've just run into a myriad of problems and it's not just one as mayor derby said it's highway 7 and getting the state to participate in some kind of crossing that would be safe and we've been met with resistance there the watershed so it's it's it's a it seems really simple to put a sidewalk down but it's been incredibly complicated and I know staff um they've been seeking ways to get this done for some time so I hear your concern I just don't want you to walk away thinking that we haven't done anything or that we don't think it's valuable I think a number of council members have been around and it's been a discussion for some time okay and miss galavan I'd like to thank you I thought your presentation was very well put together and you came forward in with a very nice tone and thank you for that I'd like to piggyback on top of councilmember cycle that at the time she's referring to that this that counsel looked at this matter council and the Planning and Zoning Commission numerous members of city staff we all walked the area of the progress rail so I think pretty much we're all familiar with it and we have you know walked it been in that neighborhood and we're we echo a lot of the concerns that you've said today so thank you for bringing it to Council thank you thank you so much for hearing and I would encourage you also to speak to your state representatives at least for the highway 7 portion and have your neighbors perhaps as well an email is pretty simple to do a phone calls even better definitely will stay active on it thank you all right thank you is there anybody else who wishes to speak for matters from the floor if you do use the raise your hand feature which is found in the participants window I don't see any other hands going up right now if it's there's a late one just because it's difficult to find or something we can circle back to you but for now we will move on the next item is a public hearing letter a is a Street reconstruction bond program and we have a memo from our city administrator mr. LaRue a mayor and city council member is the city currently levies a hundred and thirty five thousand dollars for Street improvement expenses but it simply hasn't been enough to keep up with the needed repairs many of the streets date back to a met council installed sewer the city consequently the roads are aging at the same time and many well past as the council's been discussing street improvements over the last years the council's been adamantly opposed using special assessments to fund Street provement projects and there's no statutes however allows the city to issue in Street reconstruction bombs following a public hearing and option of a five-year Street reconstruction plan and the plan is based on discussions that the council's had with staff with meeting some work sessions and Shannon Sweeney from David Ronn associates is here tonight he will present the plan he will answer health questions on be available for any comments from caring and I'm following the public and the council will instead of passing the resolution that was included thank you Greg members of the council we've been involved in discussions for probably close to two years on various street inutility reconstruction activities at the city's been considering through that process as Greg mentioned we identified it or actually initially discussed and then identified funding mechanisms that might be acceptable for the purpose of in implementing a broader plan for the repair of streets and utilities through that process we identified Street reconstruction statutes under Minnesota law cities are authorized to borrow money by state statute state statute limits the city's ability to fund Street reconstruction activities the primary methods used in the state of Minnesota include the use of special assessments for a minimum of 20% of the project costs they include Street reconstruction bonds which is what we're contemplating and they also include you know in some instances use of tax abatement Authority the three primary mechanisms used we selected Street reconstruction authority as it really seemed to dovetail nicely with the types of improvements that were being considered Minnesota statute that allows us to adopt this Street reconstruction plan has specific process that we have to follow including holding a public hearing soliciting public comment with regard to the plan the plan itself has to be adopted by two-thirds of the members present at the particular meeting so following the public hearing you'll be considering a resolution and in order for the street reconstruction plan to be adopted it does require a two-thirds vote e-even following that vote we have a 30-day what's called reverse referendum period through which residents can submit a petition requiring voter approval of the plan and its entirety meaning either a special irregular election vote on the adoption of the plan the plan itself provides specific Authority for the issuance of bonds in this instance we've identified 18 million two hundred thirty thousand six hundred eighty one dollars in Street reconstruction improvements over the next five year period we went on further you know this dovetailed nicely with our capital improvement planning process and that's the slide that's coming before you that evolved into a ten year plan for replacement of streets water mains sanitary sewer main and storm sewer I guess one of the most significant components that's come up through this process is a significant storm sewer needs that the community has and the significant work that's proposed to be undertaken within the capital improvement plan capital improvement plan I saw in your agenda is up for adoption later in the meeting the street reconstruction Authority that were seeking by adopting this plan is our means of funding specifically the street portion or the Street reconstruction portion of these projects statute asks us to identify other Street needs in the community during that same five year period we've exceeded that expectation by creating a ten year plan ultimately a capital improvement plan that provides a high level of detail with regard to the needs that the city is intending to address and but the street reconstruction plan itself is putting a tool in your toolbox for the purpose of funding those elements of street reconstruction that are identified in the first five years that plan if it's adopted doesn't obligate you to undertake any specific project it doesn't obligate you to issue bonds but it does provide you and enable you to do that if you choose to proceed with the implementation of the plan and it's an important funding mechanism because again we're limited in the opportunities that we have to fund Street reconstruction by Minnesota statute either we're using special assessments or we're using general tax levy under any of those authorities and this is specifically dedicated for the type of reconstruction activity that's within much of our plan as mentioned our Street reconstruction plan talks about other improvements that we're proposing to fund including the issuance of utility revenue bonds for the reconstruction of utilities use of cash reserves to fund ineligible Street reconstruction activities as we discuss in our in our street reconstruction plan we can't issue these bonds for new streets we can't issue these bonds for enhancements and lessor for safety purposes we can't significantly widen streets we can't add curb or gutter where none previously existed through the use of these types of behind simply we're looking at replacing what we have with something pretty similar unless there's a Public Safety need or other imminent threat that needs to be addressed during this process again the plan covers a five-year period we have a resolution in your packet requiring adoption we have our engineer also on the at the meeting who can discuss projects individually as well as staff but at the end of the day again adopting the street reconstruction plan provides the funding mechanism for the Street reconstruction portion of our CIP for the next five years at the end of five years we'll have to go through this process again if we wish to significantly deviate from the plan that we're adopting we would certainly have to go through this public hearing process again and provide for the adoption of amended plan with that I'm more than happy to answer questions from the council or the public with regard to the document that's prepared review alright let me just start with the council any questions at this time I don't see any at this time you know another oh go ahead who is viewing this is something that we've been discussing almost every single meeting so we are all very familiar with the plant that's in front of us all right all right if there's anybody from the public who would like to have a comment use the raise your hand feature raise hand feature found under the participants function and Chris looks like has a question or comment yes look can you hear me okay yes can we get your name and address for the record and then go ahead boolie yep my name is Chris McCumber I'm a 2 6 3 9 0 pitch circle so the strawberry Lane project is very interesting to me um so I just had a question I've been trying to find additional information about the strawberry Lane project as my cell phone my neighbor who I also please on the call looks like some of the storm drainage goes right into our backyard right now see over here and we just got the announcement that they're gonna start scoping that project and I tried to keep up to the newsletters we're not always on the meeting calls but is there specific plans about what's gonna happen to Strawberry Lane and more specifically the properties I'll keep circle and the affected property across the street on strawberry I just can't find it online Andrew could you address that you're we are in the very early stages of strawberry Lane just trying to scope it out and so we did not we do not really have any specifics other than some very high-level ideas and what we were going to do the city has gone through and done the Western or drainage studies so looked at that identifies some high-level concepts that are preferred that we're gonna try and achieve as part of that project but that's about as much detail is out there at the moment okay we plan on scoping it here of course of the next year to figure figure all those pieces out okay yeah I saw the tentative timeline of 2022 so I just want to make sure we had a little bit of advance notice about what that looked like but I appreciate the information I will just wait to hear more important to notice that we did work with a company fire engineering that specializes and water issues so rather than trying to address one small issue looking at the entire area that all kind of feed together and are connected in some way they came up with a master plan and then gave us ideas and the best way to solve some of our water issues one of those involved strawberry Lane feeding into Pete's circle and then that property behind you that the city had purchased to you know turn into a retention so there is kind of a master big-picture plan and we're looking at how to it's expensive so how do we implement it over time but ultimately insert you know solve a lot of these water issues that we have in the city it's probably our number one complaint and issue and as you know things change and when it rains it rains more it's created a lot of problems so trying to address it in its entirety with a master plan that's well thought out and you know we'll solve our problems so I think that's kind of what you're referring to into Andrews point we're just in the beginning of trying to implement that and look at you know ways to achieve it but to my knowledge we've looked at strawberry lane but we haven't made any decisions about it okay yeah and I saw the bar plan so I'm making sure our neighbor is kind of where is very thorough it just we saw each circle kind of in a little picture so put our eyes so we'll just make sure we're all more engaged on that to kind of follow along so I saw the work that's we'll just kind of stay engaged you guys move that forward so appreciate the information and just well we have here is there anything you want to share about water issues or anything on peaches here at the concern that you have or anything I mean what prompted you to pop on tonight is there some pop of mine that you want to share with us no well mostly it was the card that said people will be scoping the property the product the street that oh okay there was a water drainage project we heard rumbling about it a little bit I think drainage in general is not that at least for my property can't speak for everybody else we all are private some dreams for the most part and there's obviously some ponding in certain locations I we've been here since February of 2018 and haven't had a specific flood issue in our property per se but certainly there's definitely some ponding along our sites strawberry Lee and me our border where peach circle and strawberries don't were in that corner but I can't speak for the rest of my neighbors but we all are on private something they need to be running all the time so Chris just so you're aware I in the neighborhood and have been talking to many many of the different residents so feel free to tap me on the shoulder next time you see me I'll show you some of the other residents concerns and you can give you a shirt neither land and I do also want to thank Andrew buddy for neighborhood with me earlier this week to get some of those local highlights or lowlights whatever you call them sure yeah absolutely happy to be more involved and sorry we picked up on a little bit leads but glad to kind of get engaged now so thank you thank you mr. mark on is there anybody else who wishes to speak at the public hearing for the Street reconstruction bomb use the raise hand feature I'm not seeing anybody but we'll keep our eye open I'll bring it back to the council console how would you like to proceed well I think as patrick said we've kind of gone over this quite a lot we're pretty familiar with it and I I would move approval of the resolution for the Street reconstruction bond program all ii motion by Sundberg ii by johnson roll call vote johnson i Abadie high cycle i Sundberg yes Derby votes yes also motion has approved thank you we'll move on number five is reports and presentations there is none tonight six is parks there hasn't been a meeting since our last council meeting which is the same as for planning number seven so we move to eight engineering and public works letter a is accept proposal for mounds of location and consultation framework services and we have a memo from our engineer mr. buddy Thank You mayor and council this is probably a very good segue from the the CIP discussion that you just had one of the item before you now is a proposal to identify some Indian burial mounds and the associated consultation framework that goes along with it the the intent with this is that we would map out any of the existing burial locations within the city so that staff can get a better understanding of where these are at we can scope the projects more appropriately to avoid any of the impacts to these and then this helps and I'm sure that the projects stay on schedule you're probably fully aware of probably three projects that are currently underway that have encountered Indian Indian burial mounds or and/or have to gone through this process so we're trying to get out ahead of that so that we can scope out the projects appropriately plan for that in our schedule and in any of our efforts going forward with that through that through this process the it is also reviewed by the offices of State Archaeologist and the Minnesota Indian Affairs Council and said that they review this process along with the archeologist to kind of get concurrence with them so what what we're planning to do is map out more accurately where some of these burial mounds are located some of the original information is from the late 1800s previously updated in the 1970s and so what happens is Greg if you don't mind just moving to the next slide this is rid of an example of what process they go through here in this first step you can see the pink boundary is kind of that original official boundary that's mapped and when projects get flagged for being in cloaks brought close proximity to this they need to go through this process to better define where the known Indian burial mounds are to try and avoid them yeah any means possible end up going to remapping that and and what can happen is then they can read go through this process to try and remap it and we end up usually getting locations more applicable to the green lines that are there and then you can see the ultimate location is what is really shown in grey and oftentimes that is done through much more in much more field much more effort trying to really specifically map the stuff out when you're out in the field we're not intending to get to that both level with this and so that first step is is mapping this using the recent most recent information that we have available we would take advance the information that Blondo is pulling together on the enchantment islands and Woodside also the other information that would be pulled together for the Glen Emily Manitou projects so we're not duplicating any of the efforts that we were doing we're just advancing it so that's a little more consolidated and easier for the city staff to use and scope other projects going forward the proposal is for forty two thousand three hundred and sixty dollars and so that would take you through the mapping the consultation where we look at the CIP process the CIP see AIP plan he's trying to identify which projects that are in close proximity to it obviously we try and avoid any impacts to this that we can if there are circumstances where we cannot avoid it then we go through the process and they help us tell them it goes through the process of mitigating any of the impacts or going through that process with the permitting agencies this effort has been anticipated and included in motions of the CIP it isn't necessarily a specific CIP line-item but it has been kind of accounted for in some of the soft cost as we help pull together the CIP planning effort and it would then be paid for in the CIP improvement plan for the roadways in 2020 so with that there's three options before you it could accept the approve accept that approve the proposal by bone and mink for the citywide mom location and consultation framework services have us modify the scope or take no action at this time with that I will leave it up to any questions you may have all right any questions for engineering I'd like to note is it do you feel this is pretty comprehensive is there much of a chance that we're going to discover additional mounts down the road or is that just tough to project that's a very good question that is very tough to do to project this is this is only gonna map what we know exists out there there are always chances you could encounter something that we just don't know about and you just have to address that if it were to happen thank you any other questions no I think it's a good idea we've talked about this and it certainly has set us back and it actually hurts us so I think it's a good idea so I'll go ahead and make a motion to accept the proposal for Mound location and consultation framework services their bullpen make we have a motion by cycle and a second by Johnson I'll do a roll call vote Johnson I labadie I cycle i Sundberg yes Irving I had motion is approved proposal is accepted thank you to item B which is accepting a feasibility study and authorizing preparations of plans and specifications for Beverly Drive and cajon lane drainage project city project 2003 and we have a memo from our engineer once again mr. buddy all right thank you sharing my presentation with you here so just want to make sure you can see my powerpoint presentation I can see yes okay thank you so we've back on March 9th of 2020 the City Council authorized us to prepare a feasibility study for the Beverly Drive and cajon Lane drainage improvement project and so we have completed that study and are presenting that to you tonight some of the background of the project the tiled rigidly installed the basin that a south of Beverly Drive we're not sure of the date of the installation and it ultimately discharges water north under Cage's Lane out to Smith town out north side of Smith Mountain grown the resident at 25 125 Beverly Drive has had known flood risks because of this basin even with a functioning tile and then the city has performed some maintenance of this drain tile with engaged Lane and that's essentially how the city has become responsible for taking ownership of this drain tile the current condition that's out there so this is a map overview you can see that really drive here running east-west Cajon Lane running north-south and then Smith Town Road up along the top here Beverly Drive Basin is this base in here and so what we're representing in this photo is actual the actual current water level so this is the water levels that you would have seen in our surveyors were out gathering that information this is not the normal water level and it's not a high water level so it's just trying to give you a visualization of what what it looks like out there currently the drain tile has a plug in it somewhere along the line or has been crushed again and it is discharging water from the drain tile into the Cajon Lane basin and this is what we're referring to the cages lane being West the caged Lane this is an that typically historically has not seen a lot of standing water so these have areas have been under water here for probably the last year for some of the feedback I've gotten from residents and so what is happening is that that tile has been plugged in it's feeding water back this way so it's creating elevated water levels in this area and it's also creating elevated water levels in this area what we have looked at we mentioned the Western Sherwood drainage study once before tonight and this did that study did take a look at proposed solutions to this some of the bookend solutions to this are replacing the existing 8 inch tile with another 8 inch tile and so that would really really create the same hydraulic and flooding conditions that did prior to this being plugged now we did look at a number of options and up to a 24 inch size pipe and what that did was lower some of the flooding conditions in the Beverly Drive basin but it did not lower them enough to bring the known property into the current current regulations and so by that I mean it did not lower the water levels to avoid a 2 foot of 3 board which is 2 foot separation from your 100-year high water level to the low opening of your structure with that increased size though there was also higher flooding conditions north of Smithtown Road in the wetland and so that ends up being a condition that we typically strongly avoid or it's an unwanted condition if you can avoid it so we kind of look at those two sizes in a gambit in between there and ultimately the city decided that that's really replace the existing drain tile in kind and we would here's an overview of this proposed scenario so we wouldn't replace the existing 8 inch tile along this line we're not exactly sure of its existing alignment but we would replace it with a 8 inch size we would add an 8 inch size in this cajun Cajun Lane Basin as well and then from there Junction we would run a 12 inch pipe out to and discharge on the north side of gages Lane so what we're representing here is this inner boundary here this was this current water condition that was the same one you saw in the previous slide really just a snapshot in time what we're proposing to do with this project is we would bring back the normal water level to be at this around this 948 elevation on this low elevation here and then this outer boundary here is what would be what they call the 100-year flood elevation so this is the area that would be under water and 100-year storm event taking a closer look at the KG basin you can see this the inner portion is that current water level which is really just again that snapshot in time from this spring you can see that the hundred year high water level is the second tier of line here just slightly outside of that and actually in the existing condition 100-year high water level is further out than that we're improving this situate this flooding inundate area because we're adding in this this drain tile line that previously never existed and so this ended up being generally al and somewhat of a landlocked Basin with it discharging when it got really high out this way towards towards the north the funding and the costs associated with the city had had this project in their CIP and it is proposed to be funded with stormwater funds we have budgeted seven hundred and twenty thousand dollars for the project and this project was not planning to use assessments the cost at this feasibility feasibility level are estimated to be four hundred eighty six thousand dollars so well hunter and the budget amount that we had one item that is not included in there is any construction accident access that we would need either right of entry or easements and we do know that we would need some easements in order to put over the proposed pipe those exact locations all would get figured out in very early in the final design process so the Beverly Drive and Kage's main drainage project is necessary cost cost effective and feasible and the proposed schedule if the council was to move forward with it tonight and authorize the preparation of plants and specs we would be back at the June 22nd meeting for approving plans and specs and authorizing bidding awarding a contract around July 27th essentially beginning construction in late August or in September and then finishing construction by late October so I did receive a couple of questions from residents in and around the area many of the questions were very specific detailed questions real arty and I'll try and paraphrase some of them here some are asking about the five normal water elevation and I'll move up a screen here one of the residents was asking one more screen here really about we're showing this Inlet tear being at this 950 contour elevation and so they they thought that we were gonna have that that be the normal water level that isn't necessarily the case some of this is just simplified in this overview figure those exact elevation details will get figured out in final design and we will know early on exactly where those easement where the easements will be when we originally went out for survey of this many much of this was underwater at the time so they kind of surveyed the periphery of it we will bring our surveyors back to shoot at the bottom of the basin and anything that had been covered by water previously there were that was that is generally the most of the questions that I got a couple one other one that I'll point out was because this existing line functioned as a drain tile so that as the water elevation got low enough if this is just proposed to be a surface Inlet they're asking if there's gonna be drain tile really below grade that would help draw down that water level even further and again that is something that we will figure out in the final design elements of that so before you tonight this is this is a feasibility study if there's any other questions by council or residents I'd be happy to answer them we are looking for approval of the feasibility study and authorization to move on to preparing final plans and specifications for the project thank you any questions for mr. buddy not a question but it's really nice to see something come in under budget indeed all right I appreciate the work that your team has put into this those illustrations are very clear and and I can understand what the issue is and what your potential solution is so I think it's something that needs to be addressed and I'm prepared to make a motion on it but I do see the raised hand did Derek yeah thank you this is Derek Christensen I'm at two-seven-zero 75 Beverly just on the eastern side kind of where that south basin actually is so I had quite a bit quite a few questions for Andrew I think you you answered most of them the one that might be most concerning is the private versus right-of-way and just future maintenance and how we're going to maintain the looks like the cajon basin it does go through private whereas the Beverly does go through the easement I want to get in a position in the future where we have a similar situation as today where the city won't maintain that line if it does become clogged so our intent with this is to take advantage of any existing drainage utility easements that do exist in you're right through the Beverly Drive one we are trying to utilize that I think just in this Cajun Lane area we didn't have the low spots identified yes we don't exactly know where this Inlet would go there are known easements in and along these property line so we would try and take advantage of that if we are if it's possible to do that with the construction method otherwise the city would acquire easements or right of entry and we would have these recorded against the property so that it is knowing and that information can be found down the road if okay is this place that's fantastic thank you Andrew and thank you for the feasibility work to date good question Derek there anybody else that has a question you will use the raise hand feature good while we're looking for any raise hands I'll make a motion to receive feasibility study and authorize preparation of plans and specs for the Beverly Drive engagement lane drainage products city project 20 - oh three second that motion here we have a motion by Johnson and second whoa-ho-ho hi labadie I see no other raised hand so I'll go ahead and do a roll call on the vote Abadie hi cycle aye Sundberg yes Zerbe yes the feasibility report is accepted and we have authorized the plans and specifications thank thank you mister buddy we'll move on to item C which is accepting bids and awarding contract for public works roof replacement project City project 1906 I have a memo from our Director of Public Works mr. Brown Thank You mayor members of the council on May 5th we did receive bids and open them up using zoom for city project number 1906 the public works roof replacement project I'm pleased to report that there were there was I in that there was 13 bids submitted for the project ranging from one hundred and eighty four thousand eight hundred and sixty dollars to three hundred and fifty nine thousand four hundred and nineteen dollars what's responsible bid was received by Peterson brothers roofing for an amount of one hundred and eighty four thousand eight hundred and sixty dollars it is to be noted that there are some items that were specified as just a unit price per square foot that would be the the underlying still deck replacement if that's needed or quoting of that if there's any corrosion so a gut-level tells me that this project probably will come in right around two hundred thousand dollars by the time we're through with those those projects are those items and the engineer's estimate was 250 to 275 thousand dollars so all in all were were sitting in a very favorable bidding climate and staff is recommending approval of the motion that would I'm sorry had the resolution that accept the bids and awards the contract to Peterson brothers roofing all right Thank You mr. brown any questions from the council is there a motion I'll make a motion to approve the resolution accepting bid and awarding contract for public works roof replacement project City project 19 - oh six a second we have a motion from Labadie in a second from cycle I know this is something we've talked about before and we talked about this last year when we discovered it so it seems pretty straight forward I will go ahead and do a roll call votes Johnson aye aye cycle aye Sundberg yes sir votes yes also that bid is awarded thank you mr. Brown hey Gil the next is number nine general new business letter a is accepting green corpse member from the Minnesota Pollution Control Agency and we have a memo from our communication recycling coordinator Julie Moore okay mayor and council hopefully you can hear me okay and that I don't get kicked off with my internet as I have twice already mpca has offered sherwoodk through an application that Greg and I reviewed that we would get a green card member assigned for the waste reduction and recycling efforts of the city invited to participate in years past and have not and this year with the addition of our recycling committee of councilmember Sundberg and the requirements that we'll be facing with Hennepin County and Rick's - organics and additional requirements at the community center and our public spaces we've but this was the person or to let a greenhorn member be assigned to the city if we were so chosen and MPCA did choose Sherwood as one of their cities quite an honor because not very many cities get this and we're the first small city that I'm aware of to be invited to participate so I am encouraging you to just accept the green corps member from mpca all right thank you Miss Moore I would like to congratulate Julie and Greg they because of the work they've done is the reason that this was so readily approved for a city our size so I think we need just a a motion then to approve the accepting the appointment of the green Corp member from the MPCA which to do alright second we have a motion from Sundberg in a second from Johnson I'll do a roll call vote Johnson I D I cycle I Sundberg yes Zerbe yes motion is approved Thank You Julie thank you Greg thanks all right 9b is approving polling location change for precinct one and we have a memo from our city clerk HR director where is she looking Sandy Thome she's muted thank you mayors I'm here and members of the council just item is to change a precinct polling place pardon just feel back okay in our precinct one which is our shady islands enchanted Islands precinct the precinct is all of residential properties and as you're well aware we have a residential property that has been serving as precinct one for many many years and due to the co-head pandemic this year that polling place has become unavailable so at this time what we've chosen to do and I've worked with the county if you change that polling location and move it the community center so you will with your approval tonight we will be hoping those two precincts out of the community center in separate rooms maintaining two thoughts of election judges and so forth there are about a hundred and sixty registered voters at that precinct and the goal with this I think in the future is to combine that precinct with precinct three but we're not able to do that legally until we go through the redistricting process which will occur right after the census is complete so at that time we'll consider those types of changes but at this time we are asking for approval to move that polling location to the community center for this election all right thank you any questions from Council Cindy what kind of notice will be provided to the individuals from precinct the former precinct one she has to be unmuted oh there you go that's Andy okay thanks so there is a process that is head of estate and it taken care of by the county where as soon as you approve this resolution I'll send the resolution on our part at the county and then there is an office there that actually takes care of ages 2 it comes in a little card notice to all registered voters in that precinct and then in addition to that we'll do everything that we can for voter outreach to get the word out there I did write an article for the newsletter in June we'll get you that into July obviously it'll be for both elections both Marion August and the general in November so one thing that this year they've because of koban they have relaxed some of the rules legislation just passed last week through July you can change polling places because they expect there will be quite a bit of that happening with the decrease in amount of election judges able to work some of the precincts so there's quite a bit coming around the bend with that so the notices and the notices I believe have to be out by a certain date in July so it'll happen pretty quickly all right thank you thanks for that information Andy go ahead I said thanks for the information sandy just am i under planning correctly so I mean there's just they always taking a lot of pride and voting it's kind of a unique situation out there so I recognize the virus is making us do things a little differently because the temporary or is it forever it's like we have to unmute sandy again yeah I wasn't quite sure I thought I heard one thing I just want to make sure I'm fully here Oh when you make a polling place and not a precinct change we're making a polling place change for a precinct and we're keeping the precinct if us become permanent that doesn't mean that you can't change it so every year if you recall have you approved all of our polling places for each precinct by December 31st of each year for the following year and emergencies arise or other issues or if a polling place becomes unavailable we're able to make those changes but we make those changes that we're doing tonight if you approve this it does become permanent so that then would have to come later after this year's election and it were certainly open to going back to that if that's something that they're they're interested in or not so this year is a unique situation so I guess you know this isn't setting any kind of a precedence for future elections but it is permanent as of now until we change it all right thank you any other questions for Sandy if not I would look motion to approve the resolution changing the polling location for precinct one for the city of Shorewood on second avenue second bite Johnson any other comments I just think we should follow up with that neighborhood because I mean that's just been a long tradition you know I'm out an island and I think that there probably be some strong feelings one way or the other so if we have to do this this year because of the virus I could see some people saying well you know it's more crowded at the south shore center or at the Sherwood Community Center than it is walking into a house so I don't know I I would like to at least have the option of taking action to you know bring that back to them bring that back to the neighborhood if that's what they choose to do so just to comment okay ten-eye councilmember Zico I do appreciate that and I do want you to know that we have had lengthy discussion with the resident who absolutely this part I meant just for the future yeah and there has been we've had a lot of discussions before this ever came about and they they do have a strong conviction to having that so it certainly is possible that when all this is over they'll go back to wanting it as as it was so yeah I appreciate that and we absolutely will have those conversations in the future thanks Andy all right good comment all right I'll do a roll call vote Johnson uh Labadie I cycle yep Sundberg yes sir he votes yes also that is approved Thank You sandy butter C is approval of CIP and we have a memo from our finance director Joe Thank You mayor and council you should have received documents in your packet one being the resolution and we're asking you to approve to authorizes a cap improvement plan in 2029 there leave the actual capital project funds projections from 2000 through 2008 and 18 so we have a ten-year program here as opposed to what Shannon was discussing sort of on the lines of a five-year program you did a nice job of laying that out the ten-year program obviously includes a little bit more data goes a little further and ultimately would fall into place as that street reconstruction plan and third five-year period this document is really pretty much unchanged from what you've seen before in March and April the only thing that contains work to the street program and that was for be some reshuffling I mean you know some of the projects I didn't substantive separately nothing really changed there at all so it's gonna make a couple of points on the CIP park improvements fund usually that fund was showing as a deficit situation going forward but we did decide to do a you've heard it before as we were going to shift $50,000 per year from the street he really excuse me the equipment fund to the parks fund and then when we look at the pro formas or the projections going forward for that you couldn't fund we still would have a positive fund balance throughout the term of the CIP we're able to shift $50,000 into the parks fund which does a pretty good job of covering some of the future projects in there not totally but well along the way the significant project you're doing in 2020 is the Badger Park tennis clothes street improvements fun we touched on a little bit it's hard to note that utility portions of that most projects are going to be funded by utility funds themselves when we ran the projected for it on the tilty funds we're seeing some fairly again deficit projections so as we've talked about in the past we're looking at some potential utility rate increases in the water sewer and stormwater funds and it's cool probably bringing those to you within the next couple of meetings maybe if structure fund has one item in it and that was the probably horse rough we had two hundred sixty thousand dollars in there as Larry mentioned we came in a little bit better than that so that's a piece of good news utility funds we talked about as well so we're looking at some rate increases there potentially and hopefully that will clear itself over the next couple meetings so I'll leave it open question you might have all right counsel any questions no this is all in line with what we've been looking for quite some time all right is there a motion I'll make a motion to approve the resolution adopting the 2020 through 2029 capital improvement plan and 2020 budgets for the capital project funds as presented a second Washington by Johnson second place cycle any other comments hearing none I'll call a vote roll call Johnson uh poverty high cycle I hungered yes is there a also votes aye CIP is approved before we move the staff and council reports I just wanted to note that Boy Scout Troop has been with us this entire time I think sandy did you have a conversation with them that this was part of their project sandy on I wish I could claim that as me but it wasn't okay what the Boy Scout Troop like to say anything quickly No all right well thank you for joining our meeting so we will move on to staff and council reports there's nothing written in here directly so we'll just go around the table I think Larry yes today we finished washing the East system and we'll begin our system excuse me and we'll begin flushing the West water system tomorrow I'm pleased to report that the sweeping crew is finishing up the West End and then we'll move out to the islands so that will complete that exercise and well get into the thick of patching all right engineering buddy I have nothing further tonight all right finance looking further mayor sandy up on a bill that passed in the house kind of covert actions bill that is to be signed by the governor shortly and it did not include an expansion of mail balloting but it did include a lot of other things that would allow us to administer elections a little bit safer during this time so it's allowing for electronic signatures petitions candidates can to put in a petition a signature petition and little a filing fee and so we can do so with electronic signatures versus actual signatures extending the absentee voting processing time instead of seven days before the election it'll take that out to 14 days and then three days after the election because they really do feel and our utilizing voter outreach to encourage people to absentee vote and male vote whenever possible because it just reduces the exposure so they expect that absentee voting percentages will be up quite a bit and that the processing will take a little bit longer they did like I had mentioned before allow cities to designate and change polling places up through July which is something they also allow us election administrators to deputize healthcare work there to administer healthcare voting in their facilities so that election judges or election staff don't have to go into these facilities which of course right now forbidden so there will be a program in place where I will actually train these staff at the healthcare voting facilities so that they can administer absentee voting for their residents there in these healthcare facilities the there what they did include some election grants so I'm not currently working with the county getting different sanitary and disinfectant social distancing ideas for the polling places so it's you know we're pretty excited that it'll pass so that allows us a little more a little more safely to be able to safely run these elections so thanks sing here for an election that's for sure alright Greg I have nothing to add them mr. Keane I don't have anything to add but I was wondering if the Sun was gonna set on your airfare it's never since it's always ever spent it's always taken the side the Sun never sets on the Zerby I knew that was him all right counsel well I got skipped oh I'm sorry you did get skipped I'm sorry Marie oh this evening I have a couple of updates for you on part projects we did get delayed again with this cold snap we can't get the rubber surfacing installed but we're hoping towards the end of this week I've also talked with the contractors that are working on the building's we have some stonework on the outside and then we have some of the plumbing work and that should be completed within the next two two and a half weeks so we're looking at having most a badger park finished hopefully by the end of the month I I cross crossing our fingers on that towards the end of the month at the beginning of June we will have the eddy station building painted of course that's also dependent on weather but it sounds like we're gonna have a little bit warmer summer this year than we did last year so so that's a few park things to be looking forward to thank you all right thank you there has been some reports of people using low Crossfield ipad your party that was i think some council members have noted that and is there any plans from the city staff to help reduce attraction to that area I guess is maybe the best way to put it I think we we don't have anything in place now we've said that the park facilities are but we know that people are still using the trails and some of the fields as well we can't really fence them off it's too big an area so we can certainly just encourage social distancing while they're out on those fields what would there be any merit to maybe restricting the parking lot space a little bit maybe putting some cones across to the community center where the cross field is or closing one of the driveway entrances to the parking lots that's closest to that I don't know I'm just brainstorming about a simple sign I think we were putting up signs weren't we Greg and it talked about using dom we're praying about playground equipment we did not hook anything around you know the athletic fields or open spaces they certainly could put some down the fence over there well I think that would be a good idea is it worth also reaching up to the athletic director at the high school as when I went by this appeared to be an organized practice with more than twenty kids although we're separated into kind of two organized areas and I don't want to specifically call out one sport over others and that's why I'm thinking maybe just having a quick conversation with yeah like director of high school as okay I haven't had a conversation when I think with the athletic director but I have with both us only lacrosse associations they say they have no organized practices whatsoever okay all right well Sian I think is a good start keep an eye on all right council Johnson nothing further I have a de nothing further I'm just thinking about this issue with the lacrosse field and the the badger park area and I do think council member Johnson may have a good point just a simple contact to the athletic director might be worth our while so thank you nothing cycle good all right I have one thing to mention which is that this week is National Police week which was started when President Kennedy was in office you can find more information by going to police week dot org I do want to say that I received a memo from chief Meehan on Friday is National Peace Officers Memorial Day and they are doing the their traditional annual service virtually this year you might be surprised to hear sarcastically a bit but it's still very worthwhile you can find out more information by going to the minnesota law enforcement Memorial Association Facebook page it's at 7:00 p.m. on Facebook they're going to broadcast it live they've there's been two hundred eighty nine police officers lost in the past few years and they lost three more this year so it is a sobering and yet justified memorial so if anybody would like to participate you can do that now morally you virtually usually they do it at the st. Paul in front of the Capitol so thanks so much as there are emergency responders and our police force during this time I think it's even more important to recognize them for their service so that's all I have if there's anything else otherwise I'd look for a motion to adjourn or wait there it is we have that we're being told with a PowerPoint oh no commotion doing John I'll second that motion by Johnson's second by labadie I think it was I'll do a roll call vote Johnson uh poverty I cycle hi Sundberg yes terribly votes yes also we stand adjourned thanks everybody thank you