[0:08] Welcome to Chamber Check-in. Mike [0:10] D'vorak, president of the Twin Cities [0:12] North Chamber of Commerce, your source [0:14] for virtual networking and all things [0:17] local business. Check out our website at [0:19] twinitiesnorth.org. [0:21] That's twinsitiesnorth.org. [0:23] And a shout out to the fine crew here at [0:26] 9north studios that produce this fine [0:28] program. We appreciate your partnership. [0:32] And now we have a great program for you [0:33] today. We'd like to welcome our first [0:35] guest, Thomas Jackson, co-owner of Power [0:39] 365 here in Roseville. Welcome, Thomas. [0:42] >> Yes. Thanks for having me on. [0:44] >> Thanks for being here. Happy holidays [0:46] and happy new year to you. [0:47] >> Happy New Year to you as well. [0:48] >> So, Thomas, I know we're going to have a [0:51] chamber event upcoming at Par 365 later [0:54] this month. It's our members connect [0:57] event and we're really excited to have [0:59] that. Um I walked around the facility, [1:01] checked it out a little bit. It's very [1:04] cool. Uh I think people would really [1:05] like it. Why don't you tell the folks at [1:08] home a little bit about PAR 365, your [1:10] role there and what you guys do? [1:13] >> Yeah. No, I'd love to. So Par 365 is an [1:15] indoor golf simulator, bar, restaurant, [1:18] and really an event center where you can [1:20] do corporate events, happy hours, that [1:22] type of thing. Um, just a great space. [1:25] We wanted to take this idea of golf and [1:28] indoor golf and and make it fun. We know [1:30] Roseville is just a great place for golf [1:33] and golf enthusiasts, but we wanted to [1:35] take this opportunity to make a indoor [1:38] space that felt inviting where whether [1:40] you were an avid golfer or never golf [1:42] before, you could still come have fun [1:44] and have a good time. [1:46] >> Definitely going to have a good time if [1:47] you come out to Par 365. you know, [1:49] there's a lot of different variations of [1:52] uh golf simulators and facilities and [1:54] every day I see a new article about new [1:56] one popping up. Um, why don't you tell [1:59] us what sets Power 365 apart? [2:01] >> Yeah. No, that's a great point. You [2:03] know, the industry is really exploding. [2:05] There's a lot of competition, but we [2:07] really wanted to start with a lot of [2:09] heart, a lot of connection, a lot of [2:10] community. So, when you come in, we [2:12] wanted to to feel different. We wanted [2:15] you to feel like you belong. We didn't [2:17] want it to feel necessarily like a [2:19] clubhouse. So, we have a lot of art in [2:21] there. We have a lot of cool food and [2:22] drinks. We wanted it to be experienced, [2:25] but not overwhelming, right? Not so [2:28] sensory overload as some of the other [2:29] bigger spaces. It can still be kind of [2:32] intimate, kind of a place to connect, [2:34] place to meet people, and a place to [2:35] build community. [2:37] >> Absolutely. And I think that's what we [2:38] do here at the chamber. We're excited to [2:40] be a part uh and partner with you, part [2:43] of 365. Um why don't you tell the folks [2:46] a little bit about how you joined the [2:48] chamber and what the chamber has meant [2:50] to you and par 365 being part of the [2:53] community. [2:53] >> Absolutely. Uh fundamental to our [2:55] mission at Par 365 is to make golf more [2:58] affordable, more approachable, and more [3:00] accessible. And to do that, we knew we [3:02] needed to be a part of a strong [3:03] community. And Roseville has that strong [3:06] community through the chamber. So, we [3:08] sought out that um when we first opened [3:10] because we wanted to connect to not only [3:12] different customers and and people like [3:14] golf, but we wanted to connect to [3:16] different businesses in the community to [3:18] let them know that we had a space for [3:20] them to gather to connect and to find [3:22] others who are doing similar things. So, [3:24] the chamber's been integral from the [3:26] support to the chamber uh check-ins and [3:28] happy hours that you guys do, the [3:30] communication and really feeling like [3:32] we're part of the fabric of the [3:34] Roseville kind of business community has [3:36] been important. and Chamber North [3:37] obviously. [3:38] >> Yeah, we love to be over there. Love [3:40] people to come out. You know, I'm a [3:42] golfer myself and it's pretty bleak in [3:44] the winter here in Minnesota. What do [3:46] you do to keep uh your swing straight [3:48] and uh part 365 offers that opportunity? [3:52] Um right now uh it's the holidays uh [3:55] just passed and busy season. Have you [3:58] done anything with your hours to [4:00] accommodate different groups, maybe [4:01] retired folks that you know they want to [4:03] keep golfing in the winter? No, it's a [4:05] great point and absolutely, you know, um [4:08] I will say we do try to scale up our [4:09] hours to make sure that we're getting [4:11] the bulk of the customers that we can. [4:12] It is a a smaller operation. Um but we [4:15] are running seven days a week now. So, [4:17] um we're running daytime toward the end [4:20] of the week. So, we're opening at 10 [4:22] from Wednesday to Friday. We have a [4:24] great senior rate of like $15 for nine [4:27] holes to come in before two. So, we're [4:29] trying to get that senior community and [4:31] the daytime community come in. Uh [4:33] weekends tend to be our busiest. Um but [4:36] we're trying to expand that and we're [4:37] trying to make sure that we can [4:38] accommodate everyone and whatever time [4:41] that they can come in. So, [4:42] >> you know, the facilities really laid out [4:44] quite nicely. Uh when people come in, um [4:48] are there any age restrictions? You [4:50] know, can they come in with groups? Uh [4:52] maybe you're a little bit intimidated by [4:54] the ability level. Um what does PAR 365 [4:59] uh offer for groups and families? [5:01] >> Oh, yes. Yes. Absolutely. Uh, great [5:04] question. So, um, we are all ages. Um, [5:08] we one of the our most popular questions [5:10] is, you know, I've never played golf [5:11] before. Do you have clubs there? So, we [5:13] have complimentary clubs there that [5:15] people can use. So, if they're just [5:16] getting into golf or traveling, they can [5:19] they can do that as well. We have [5:21] families come in. The equipment can [5:22] actually adjust for your ability level. [5:25] So, if you know, grandpa is a excellent, [5:27] you know, golfer and and the grandson or [5:29] granddaughter's just getting started, we [5:31] can make it so they can play together on [5:32] a full course, right? There are tons of [5:34] games, darts, uh, ski ball, things you [5:37] can do with the golf club that don't [5:39] require much skill or talent. Um, and [5:41] you can all come in and have fun. It [5:43] really is about the experience. We have [5:45] experiences for novice golfers, uh, [5:48] youth, kids, families, all the way up [5:50] to, you know, if you are that semi-pro [5:53] scratch golfer. There's, uh, data and [5:55] information that we can get from the sim [5:57] that you probably can't get anywhere [5:58] else. So, we tried to be really [6:01] intentional about having a space that [6:03] would work for everyone and begin to [6:05] expand this wonderful game of golf, as [6:07] you know. [6:08] >> That's great. And I I I didn't even [6:10] realize that you had other games besides [6:12] golf. [6:12] >> Oh, yeah. We're definitely going to do [6:13] that when you guys come. [6:15] >> Well, the simulators are really cool and [6:17] you talk about technology. Um, how [6:20] should people feel when they come in? [6:21] Um, in terms of the technology, maybe [6:24] they've never hit a golf ball against a [6:26] simulator. Can they do it themselves? [6:28] Will there be someone there to help them [6:31] uh if they have questions? [6:32] >> Yeah. No, absolutely. We're always there [6:33] to help. whether there's questions on [6:34] the simulators or even questions on just [6:36] swings in golf in general. We we try to [6:39] coach the staff and and have them be [6:41] that welcoming committee and your and [6:42] your cheerleading squad, right? Uh what [6:44] I will say is the equipment that we [6:46] selected for building out our facility [6:49] is so intuitive. Once you've been there [6:51] once or twice, we have regulars that [6:53] come in and set themselves up, right? [6:55] Like it is really once you kind of get [6:56] the hang of it and you see it, it's a [6:58] touch screen. You can really navigate to [7:00] anything at your will. So, that's [7:02] something that I think is a a huge bonus [7:04] for the usability and the user interface [7:07] that we have at Part 365. [7:09] >> You and your staff are great and very [7:11] helpful. Uh people shouldn't be [7:13] intimidated at all to come on over. Uh [7:15] as a matter of fact, the folks here at 9 [7:18] North are going to put this graphic up [7:19] on the screen, but why don't you tell [7:21] our viewers how they can get in touch [7:22] with you and your staff and where you're [7:24] located? [7:25] >> Yeah, so we're located right on County [7:27] Road C. Uh so, it's uh County Road C and [7:29] Patton. We're in the Roseville Commons, [7:31] too. Um, the best way to get in touch [7:34] with us is, uh, email, so it's PAR 365 [7:38] uh, info at par 365golf. [7:41] Um, you could also, uh, follow us on [7:43] social media. You know, we're always [7:45] trying to get out in front of, you know, [7:47] all demographics and get in front of [7:48] social media. So, our handles on across [7:50] the board is @par365golf. [7:53] And then our website is [7:54] www.par365golf.com. [7:58] So, if someone wanted to do a a team [8:01] building exercise or a party uh for [8:04] their family, is there a limit to the [8:06] number of people that can be at each [8:07] bay? And how many bays are there there? [8:09] >> Absolutely. So, we have about almost [8:11] 9,000 square ft. We have six separate [8:14] simulator bays. We have two simulator [8:16] bays in the back that are a little bit [8:17] bigger that can accommodate a little bit [8:19] bigger parties. In total, we have done [8:21] full facility rentouts, so we're at [8:24] about 120 people. For each bay, I think [8:27] you can fit about six people is like a [8:29] good rule of thumb. We try to optimum is [8:31] probably like four and less, but we can [8:33] probably put four six people on there if [8:35] you're trying to have like more of a [8:36] family experience. And you can always [8:38] email us on our events line. So events [8:41] at par 365 golf. If you're thinking [8:44] about doing a company event, a large a [8:47] large format event or anything like [8:48] that, we have full catering, drink [8:51] packages, options, add-ons, the whole [8:53] full thing to make whatever event that [8:55] you're trying to do special for that [8:57] occasion. [8:58] >> That was one of my questions. I noticed [9:00] there's a bar there. There's food [9:02] available. People can kind of camp out [9:04] and hang out all day. [9:05] >> Yeah, absolutely. We wanted to be that [9:07] third space. We wanted to be a hangout [9:09] space. Come hang out with us. um enjoy [9:12] the vibes as we say. [9:13] >> What's new in technology in the world of [9:16] u golf simulators and um you know [9:19] golfers might be interested in with uh [9:22] with your simulators and I noticed you [9:24] even had some u uh cars and simulator [9:28] cars there. [9:29] >> Yeah. No, absolutely. Great point. So [9:31] I'll start with the first one. So new [9:33] the golf simulator technology is I mean [9:35] like you said you're seeing it [9:36] everywhere. It's really exploding. [9:37] Technology is changing every day. We [9:39] have a really good system that can adapt [9:41] to that and they're doing changes on the [9:42] back end to keep up and make it sure [9:44] that's sharp. We're always trying to [9:46] find fun things and fun ways to use the [9:48] space. So in the front we have [9:50] everything from like Lifesize Jenga to [9:52] Connect 4, like something to grab [9:54] everyone. We've also partnered with [9:56] another entity to do kind of um racing [9:58] simulators. So it's like a F1 racing [10:00] simulator. So we're kind of testing that [10:01] out. That was something fun fun that we [10:03] wanted to try out and get some feedback [10:05] for the for the winter. So, if you have [10:07] if there's anyone with uh that racing F1 [10:10] racing enthusiast, we invite them to [10:12] come out cuz we were trying to see if it [10:14] uh if they like it and if it's something [10:15] fun that we should keep. [10:17] >> I I can't wait to try the racing [10:18] simulators as well and I'm a big golfer. [10:21] So, um finally, Thomas, uh what are your [10:25] final thoughts about Power 365? You want [10:27] to remind people about the days and [10:28] times that you're open and and and tell [10:31] people why it's great to come out to Par [10:33] 3? [10:33] >> Absolutely. I'll start with the days and [10:34] times. So, we now are open 7 days a [10:36] week. So, Mondays and Tuesdays, we open [10:39] at 3:00 and we go to 9:00 p.m. [10:41] Wednesdays, we're opening at 10:00 a.m. [10:44] and going to uh 9:00 p.m. So, that's [10:47] going to be Wednesday. Thursday. Friday [10:50] and Saturday, we stay open the latest. [10:51] So, we're opening at 10:00 a.m. and [10:53] we're going to 10:00 p.m. And then on [10:55] Sundays, we're opening at 10:00 a.m. and [10:58] then we're closing at 6:00 p.m. So, but [11:01] I always encourage people to reach out [11:03] to us for events. you know, we as long [11:04] as we know ahead of time, we can work [11:06] outside of those hours to make sure that [11:08] we can accommodate that. And what I [11:10] would say is, um, if you are that avid [11:12] golfer, uh, please choose us. Um, we are [11:15] still probably the only simulator in [11:18] Roseville simulator facility. Um, so [11:20] choose us. And if you're a little bit [11:22] nervous about golf or never golf before [11:24] or kind of don't know what's going on, [11:26] we are the perfect place to start. uh [11:28] our friendly environment, our casual [11:30] setup, our engaging staff will make golf [11:34] something that, you know, our mission is [11:36] to make sure that people don't say, "Oh, [11:37] I'm not a golfer." You may like it, you [11:39] may not like it, but I want I want [11:41] everyone to have the experience of what [11:43] it is and how to do it. [11:45] >> Centrally located, great uh location [11:48] right here in in uh Roseville. Thomas, [11:51] uh really appreciate you being here. [11:52] Thanks and happy new year. [11:54] >> Yeah, thank you for having Mike. Happy [11:55] New Year to you, too. Thanks for all [11:57] that you do at the chamber. [11:58] >> Thank you. [12:42] There's something about having that [12:43] piece of paper. Some people think that's [12:44] worth more than my skills. [12:47] >> I've run this place for 20 years, but I [12:49] still need to prove that I'm more than [12:50] what you see on paper. [12:56] >> Just got to be so good they can't ignore [12:57] you. [12:57] >> It's the way my mind works. I have a [12:59] very mechanical brain. [12:59] >> Analytics and empathy. That's how I've [13:01] gained clients. [13:01] >> I am more. [13:02] >> I'm more than who I am on paper. [13:38] Thanks for coming back to Chamber [13:40] Check-in. Uh we're going to welcome our [13:42] second guest, John Clapperish from the [13:45] Biz Recycling Group of Ramsey and [13:48] Washington counties. Welcome, John. [13:50] >> Thanks for having me. Excited to be [13:51] here. [13:51] >> Well, we're excited to have you. Really [13:54] uh really excited to be part uh Twin [13:56] Cities North Chamber just recently [13:58] became a partner with BIS Recycling. Um [14:01] and you guys are part of the recycling [14:04] and energy uh group from Ramsey and [14:06] Washington County. uh why don't you tell [14:08] the folks at home uh exactly what you do [14:11] and what your role is there? Yeah. So, I [14:14] am the program coordinator for our BIS [14:16] recycling grant program, which is a [14:20] suite of business assistance programs [14:22] that help businesses, nonprofits, [14:25] schools, hospitals in Ramsey and [14:28] Washington County address their waste [14:31] and recycling portfolios and hopefully [14:33] save a little bit of money by recycling [14:35] more, reducing the amount of trash that [14:38] they produce, and in a lot of cases [14:40] starting organics recycling programs. [14:42] programs. In addition to just kind of [14:45] our recycling stuff, we do have a few [14:47] other grant programs that specifically [14:49] address pollution reduction and waste [14:52] reduction opportunities as well. So [14:55] really working to drive waste reductions [14:59] throughout the two counties in the [15:00] business community. [15:02] >> This is really big for our community. [15:04] It's big for the safety of our community [15:07] and we want to bring attention to that. [15:09] Uh, as you know, Twin Cities North [15:10] Chamber, we cover uh Ramsey County and [15:13] we're excited to be partnered with you. [15:15] Uh, why don't you tell us on your end um [15:18] the connection between the BIS Recycling [15:21] Program and the local chambers? [15:23] >> Yeah, first off, thank you so much for [15:25] your partnership with Twin Cities North. [15:27] Um, we have a partners program across [15:31] the two counties that works with local [15:33] chambers of commerce and other business [15:36] focused organizations to really get the [15:38] word out to the community about biz [15:41] recycling. Um, in a lot of cases, [15:44] government programs are not necessarily [15:47] trusted by the business community fully. [15:49] So, it's really nice to partner with you [15:53] and your uh communications arm to be [15:57] that trusted messenger and get the word [15:59] out to the business community that this [16:02] is in fact a free program. They offer [16:04] good technical assistance to businesses [16:07] and there's some grant funding available [16:09] as well. [16:10] >> Yeah, we're really excited about that. [16:12] We're excited to to expose this to our [16:15] members and our member businesses. We're [16:17] planning on doing some uh tours of uh [16:20] facilities and uh different things [16:22] whether it's plastic, bottles, cans, [16:26] paper, uh even food waste products. [16:29] Yeah. So, we really help businesses [16:31] address all sorts of different materials [16:34] that they have and really meet a [16:37] business where they're at. So no matter [16:39] if a business is doing they think [16:42] everything with organics recycling and [16:44] traditional recycling, it's still [16:46] important to have a site visit and have [16:48] someone come out and take a look and see [16:50] what opportunities might be out there [16:52] for even greater steps uh to reduce [16:55] waste. And the other thing that we like [16:57] to point out to the business community [16:59] is these can be cost-saving endeavors as [17:02] well. Um, trash is taxed pretty heavily [17:05] in Ramsey and Washington counties and [17:08] recycling and organics are not taxed at [17:10] all. So, the more a business can reduce [17:13] the amount of trash that they're [17:14] producing by recycling more, it's likely [17:17] that they can save some money in the [17:19] long term on their hauler bills as well. [17:22] >> So, folks uh in their residential homes, [17:24] they usually know about simple things [17:26] like recycling uh paper or cans, things [17:30] like that. But John, what does the [17:32] broader picture look like nationally in [17:34] terms of recycling and how that's been [17:36] brought to the forefront and what are [17:38] any new trends in the industry in terms [17:40] of recycling? [17:41] >> Yeah, I think the thing that we and our [17:43] recycling experts out in the field get a [17:45] lot is does recycling actually exist? [17:48] And in many parts of the world, that's a [17:50] very valid question and one that is up [17:53] for more ambiguity. Here in Minnesota, [17:56] we're really proud that we've got really [17:58] strong recycling systems that are very [18:01] trustworthy and transparent. So, we know [18:04] where our materials are ultimately going [18:06] and what kind of products they're [18:08] getting turned into once they uh go [18:10] through the recycling stream. And we're [18:14] really focused on organics recycling at [18:18] Ramsey Washington Recycling and Energy. [18:20] We've got some projects coming up where [18:23] we're focused on anorobic digestion and [18:26] actually pulling some uh renewable [18:29] natural gas out of that uh food waste [18:32] stream in the long term. So the more we [18:34] can get businesses engaged in composting [18:37] and collecting their organics recycling [18:39] separately, so their food food scraps [18:41] and other compostable products [18:43] separately, uh the better we'll be [18:45] environmentally and financially long [18:47] term. And that's what we want for our [18:49] members and our businesses. Um John, how [18:52] is the program funded? Um is this a [18:55] state, local, national funding? And how [18:58] many other counties here in Minnesota [19:00] have taken part of this? [19:01] >> That's a really good question and one [19:03] that we get a lot and that high tax on [19:06] trash that I mentioned before actually [19:09] goes to fund a lot of what we do with [19:12] this grant program. So, the money that [19:15] people are paying on their trash bills [19:17] in taxes helps to fund both our uh very [19:21] robust [19:23] recycling facility uh at Ramsey [19:25] Washington Recycling and Energy where [19:27] we're able to pull a few recyclables out [19:29] of the trash and then turn that waist [19:31] stream into energy as well as fund the [19:35] grant program and the technical [19:36] assistance that's provided to the [19:38] business community. And yes, um, Anoka, [19:41] Henipin, and other, uh, counties in the [19:44] seven county metro have similar grant [19:46] programs available. So, check them out [19:49] as well. [19:50] >> That's terrific to know considering that [19:52] Twin Cities North Chamber also covers [19:54] Inoka County. So, that's exciting. So, [19:56] how can our companies get involved? [19:58] We're new to this. Um, you know, they're [20:02] going to want to know more information, [20:04] uh, referral, how to protect their [20:06] community, and how to do this for their [20:08] business. [20:08] >> Yeah. So the way to get started is by [20:10] visiting bisrecycling.com [20:13] and you can peruse some former success [20:16] stories of businesses that have gone [20:18] through the program. And there's also a [20:20] very easy link to contact us and start [20:23] the process of having an initial site [20:26] visit with our biz recycling experts. [20:30] And that site visit process is very [20:33] approachable. So, our biz recycling [20:37] experts actually come from Minnesota [20:39] Wastewise, which is a nonprofit arm of [20:41] the Minnesota Chamber of Commerce, and [20:44] they're very familiar with working with [20:45] the business community and understand [20:47] what businesses want to see out of a [20:51] program like this. So, they're very [20:52] approachable, and like I mentioned, [20:54] they're recycling experts, so they're [20:56] looking around and identifying [20:57] opportunities throughout your business [20:59] to both reduce waste and save money. The [21:02] other thing I'd mention is following [21:04] that site visit. There's no obligation [21:07] to do anything. It's completely free. [21:09] So, it can be as simple as, oh, we're [21:11] aware of some opportunities that we have [21:13] now. Or they can help you walk through [21:15] the grant application process and even [21:18] help you implement if you're getting [21:20] free recycling bins or contacting your [21:24] waist hauler to add different services [21:26] or reduce the frequency of your trash [21:29] pickups and hopefully save some money. [21:31] You guys have been great to work with so [21:32] far. We're really excited to be [21:34] disseminating information through our [21:36] website, through our social media. Um, [21:39] the fellas here at 9 North are going to [21:41] put up your information on the screen, [21:43] but why don't you tell the folks how [21:44] they can get in touch with you and what [21:46] website to go to? Yeah, like I [21:48] mentioned, bisrecycling.com, [21:51] bisrecycling.com, [21:54] and folks can go on there and see what [21:57] we do, gain some hopeful uh ideas, and [22:00] also contact us to schedule that initial [22:03] site visit. [22:04] >> I really appreciate that. Final thoughts [22:06] on energy recycling and any plans or [22:10] concerns by the public? And then what [22:12] I'd really like to know is what are the [22:14] long-term goals of Bris recycling [22:16] besides uh one year, five year, 10 years [22:20] out? What's what's going to transpire? [22:22] >> So that's a real big question. Um our [22:26] long-term goals are really to meet [22:29] businesses where they're at and move [22:31] them up the waste hierarchy so that they [22:34] are doing activities to benefit the [22:37] environment and benefit their bottom [22:39] line. So we want if a business is not [22:42] recycling anything at all, we don't want [22:43] to shame them. We just want to give them [22:45] the knowledge and the funding and the [22:47] infrastructure to begin recycling. If a [22:51] business is doing everything, uh we want [22:53] to dig deeper and identify ways that [22:56] maybe they could work with suppliers to [22:58] reduce packaging waste or really move [23:00] folks up that hierarchy. And long term, [23:03] we have a vision of being a closer to [23:06] zero waste community where if I do my [23:10] job properly, I work myself out of a job [23:12] and no one's producing trash anymore. [23:14] Um, I think that's a long ways in the [23:16] future, but it's a goal that we strive [23:18] for. [23:19] >> Long-term goals, lofty goals, but [23:22] certainly attainable goals. [23:24] >> We hope so. [23:25] >> I think so. I really appreciate you [23:27] being here today, John. Why don't you [23:28] hang out here for a second? Uh great [23:31] information about biz recycling. Please [23:33] check out those websites. Uh we're going [23:35] to do a couple chamber announcements uh [23:37] to finish up here today. A great program [23:40] with John and Thomas. Uh we encourage [23:42] everyone to check out our website at [23:44] twin cities.org or for information on [23:47] our programs and events and for traffic [23:50] information on uh the impending and uh [23:54] uh construction going on at Snelling uh [23:58] Avenue and and Highway 51. Please go to [24:01] the Mindot uh website to check out how [24:04] that's going to affect your travel. On [24:06] January 21st, we have our business [24:08] connect [24:10] uh surprisingly enough at PAR 365 with [24:13] Thomas. So, we invite all uh members [24:15] from the chamber, not just from [24:17] Roseville, to come out and experience [24:19] our members connect. On January 28th, we [24:22] have our Roseville Business Connect at [24:25] the Roseville City Hall. And we invite [24:27] all chamber members to come to that as [24:29] well. Great information and uh updates [24:32] from the city as well. And our big [24:34] announcement is that on April 16th, the [24:37] Twin Cities North Chamber is going to be [24:39] doing our spring celebration theme [24:42] party. This year the theme is going to [24:44] be the Olympics which is very apppropo [24:46] for next month. Olympics is in uh Italy [24:50] and we're going to have a theme party. [24:52] It's open to the public. It's open to [24:54] members, non-members. For information on [24:57] registration, please go to our website. [25:00] Uh but we're really excited about that. [25:02] Um we really appreciate John and Thomas [25:05] being here today and we will see you [25:08] again in two weeks. Thanks for joining [25:10] uh Chamber Check-in and remember, we're [25:14] here to promote business, connect [25:16] communities, and develop leaders. Thanks [25:18] so much. See you in two weeks.