North St. Paul City Council — Transcript
Saturday, March 15, 2025
Community Center Next Steps and Future Viability
Notable Quotes (16)
you would have to go into all the det I don't have a specific answer you'd have to go and look at the detail that W provided which is is a part of this attach to see if they have the boiler included or not
the funding that's been made available to us covers Us from zero to the first five years we have six years before we have to start we have six years we're able to plan for the next round of the $1.7 million that we talk to as a potential deficit
we could wait we could wait till year six and then increase something to the tune of 15% or we ratchet it up 2% so it does it so you're right but I think the planning process needs to start sooner than later
to me one of the parameters that it kind of says is that we have to find partners and that's what we've been trying to do and that's what we did with the RFI
the last line on here am I correct in that unless we sell the building that should be something we're planning for regardless of the outcome
a rule of thumb in the industry is that you should be putting one and a half to two and a half% of your replacement value away on an annual basis
but averaging 30 people for every single hour they're open seems to me high and unattainable for anything I've seen there
the problem is we didn't get that results when we went went out and advertised and and did that but I absolutely agree that yeah we need more information because a partnership is the only way this this this is actually going to work and have a a minimum impact on our residents
if the grant recipient does not repay any portion of the amount specified under that section 2.06 B within 30 days of Demand by either the state entity or the to by this either State entity or the budget then such amount May unless precluded by law be taken off or offset against any AIDS or any monies that the grant recipient is entitled to receive from the state of Minnesota
I clarify I was not comfortable with the 25 years you said we were comfortable oh sure so I st I wasn't okay just want to be on the record on that
the way in which I read this is actually to demo is more costly to us as a city if the Gap is 1.7 then a demo option A would be 3.1 million
there's two demo options the the first one was to demo everything except for the library which just just just because of how you would have to do that surgically right the cost goes way up so you would never do an option A
is option b if we could look at very similar to how the financials were put together with what could potentially be the highest liability can we look at what that would look like
what is the city council's goal Envision of the programming component that they want Within within this city council or within this community center and that has not become clear to staff
a potential friendly Amendment to the second to the last bullet point acceptance of this grant will increase acceptance of the grant may increase we don't know just to your point what it's going to be and the other bullet point that I would like to add is not accepting the grant causes of financial liability to the city as well anywhere from 1.3 to 4 whatever the dollar amount was million dollars we don't have an answer for those funds either
I'd encourage you to somehow come up with some ideas on your own of what you're really specifically looking for if anything I did notice Banquet Center in the draft RFP which startled me because I thought where did that come from
Ordinances & Resolutions (19)
Terms of the state grant related to the community center, requiring clarification on default conditions.
Request for Information distributed to identify potential partners for the Community Center, yielding limited responses.
A draft Request for Proposal attached to the meeting document, for developing an RFP.
A report from W outlining deferred maintenance costs for the Community Center, totaling $7.3 million across various priority categories.
An estimated annual budget for running the Community Center, calculated at approximately $886,000.
The specific terms of the $4.5 million state grant, with particular concern over the default remedies outlined in Section 2.06 B.
Three alternative scenarios presented by W in 2022 for the Community Center: partial demolition, full demolition and library relocation, or full demolition and new library construction.
A study to assess the viability of various options for the Community Center, with an estimated cost of $45,000-$60,000.
General term for the meeting materials provided to the council.
Medium through which the operating budget was initially circulated, prior to council discussion.
Specific section within the grant document detailing the state's remedies in case of a grant recipient's default.
Capital Improvement Plan, discussed in the context of proactive funding for infrastructure and facility maintenance.
Financial planning documents for the electric, water, and general funds, referenced as a model for facility planning.
Building Owners and Managers Association categories used for standardizing operating budget itemization and benchmarking.
The official approved purpose for the state grant, which may not align with current library programming.
State aid that could be withheld from the city in the event of a state grant default.
State aid for police and fire services that could be withheld in the event of a state grant default.
State aid for street maintenance that could be withheld in the event of a state grant default.
The specific title of the draft Request for Proposal for a feasibility study being considered by the council.