North St. Paul City Council — Transcript

Sunday, September 14, 2025

North St. Paul Community Center Future and Library Lease

Open Meeting Law Review

Home Occupation Amendment Implementation

Zoning Code Clarification on Restrictive Covenants

Votes (3)

Cowan Elementary School Conditional Use Permit Amendment and Site Plan Approval

Unanimously Approved

Dissent: One commissioner voiced ongoing concerns about the absence of a right-turn lane but did not vote against the overall motion.

Moved by Commissioner Rathy [1:00] · Seconded by Commissioner Weise [1:00]

The Planning Commission reviewed a request for a conditional use permit amendment and site plan approval for Cowan Elementary School. The project involves expanding the north parking lot, adding a bus staging area, constructing primary and smaller building additions, and making internal security and facility improvements. The project is phased through August 2028. Key discussions included traffic flow solutions, particularly the elimination of one South Avenue driveway to increase queuing length, the school's R1 residential zoning requiring a CUP, and staff recommendations to combine four existing properties into one and modify tree species and fencing. ADA compliance for sidewalks was also raised. Ramsey County denied a requested right-turn lane on South Avenue. Staff found the plans met all required criteria subject to numerous conditions, including final plan reviews by staff, engineer, and watershed district, and a pre-construction meeting.

Zoning Ordinance Text Amendments

Unanimously Approved

Moved by Commissioner Muick [1:23] · Seconded by Commissioner Gabboy [1:23]

The commission reviewed proposed amendments to the zoning code, a continuation from an earlier meeting. These amendments clarify what improvements are not considered encroachments in yard setbacks and add language for expanding existing structures with non-conforming setbacks. Key changes since the last meeting included adding the word 'permanent' to pergola descriptions, removing recreational equipment setbacks, incorporating NFPA 110, refining language for 'covered but open porches,' and extending non-conforming setback maintenance to front yards. A critical discussion revolved around ensuring the ordinance is reviewed by the city's Code Enforcement officer, McKenzie, before it proceeds to the City Council, to preempt potential enforcement issues.

Subdivision Ordinance Text Amendments

Unanimously Approved

Moved by Commissioner Rathy [1:33] · Seconded by Commissioner Weise [1:33]

The Planning Commission considered an update to the city's subdivision ordinance, carrying over from a previous meeting. This comprehensive update involves a complete repeal and replacement of Chapter 153 of the city code, resulting in an ordinance three times its original length. The revisions were primarily driven by the need for legal compatibility with recent state court findings regarding park dedication requirements and significant input from the city engineer to address previously lacking parts of the code. The city attorney confirmed that the updated language for park dedication meets state requirements. The new code is designed to better prepare the city for potential major subdivisions. No public comments were received during the public hearing.

Notable Quotes (9)

The comprehensive plan, the 2040 plan that we're currently using, does not have a separate future land use designation for schools or institutional uses... As a sidebar, that's something we may want to think about when we do the 2050 comp plan is do we want to add an institutional land use designation for schools, public facilities...

Ken, Staff Analyst [0:10]
Cowan Elementary School Conditional Use Permit Amendment and Site Plan Approval

So right now it's a oneway in one way out which only allows 10 to 15 cars to stack on site. By eliminating one of those drives, it allows much longer queue length to get more cars off of South A.

Caitlyn Chambers, Architect [0:29]
Cowan Elementary School Conditional Use Permit Amendment and Site Plan Approval

And yes, we did talk to the WA Ramsey County about that because that was our first idea to have the right turn lane and keep cars out the traffic and queue people back that way. And they I'm not sure the requirements or the criteria that they use, but they said that they wouldn't allow the right turn lane.

Greg Blum, Civil Engineer [0:32]
Cowan Elementary School Conditional Use Permit Amendment and Site Plan Approval

I have two kids at Cowan and this is amazing. This is fixing a lot of issues that exist currently. So, I'm really happy to see this. Um, it's it's going to be great. So, thank you guys for all your work on this for the for the school.

Commissioner [0:46]
Cowan Elementary School Conditional Use Permit Amendment and Site Plan Approval

I am. Ken, I'd like to go on the record that I really do not like them not having a right turn lane there. So, you know, I understand what they're saying. It's interesting that they approached the county about it and the county said, "No, please.

Commissioner [1:02]
Cowan Elementary School Conditional Use Permit Amendment and Site Plan Approval

And I'm I think this is the right venue. So I I will say would it be appropriate at this time to ask that if the planning commission approves this before it goes to the city council um it would be reviews reviewed by uh McKenzie as well for code enforcement and if she can attend the um city council meeting that u she provides her recommendation um to the city council.

Commissioner [1:19]
Zoning Ordinance Text Amendments

My my opinion is if you like the ordinance the way it's written and comfortable with it, you you make your recommendation. If code enforcement comes back and says, "Well, wait a minute. There's council can change it, right?" Or if it's bad enough, you get a problem, we bring it back and talk through Yeah. that before going to council.

Ken, Staff Analyst [1:21]
Zoning Ordinance Text Amendments

So, just to clarify for those who are en enjoying um watching us online, um the a great majority of this um was based on compatibility from a legal standpoint with state ordinance or state statutes. And so that's that's I think it's important to understand that that's really kind of what drove this.

Chair [1:31]
Subdivision Ordinance Text Amendments

right and and also a lot of input from the city engineer because there was many parts that were his opinion lacking so those were two of the big proponents of updating the code

Ken, Staff Analyst [1:32]
Subdivision Ordinance Text Amendments

Ordinances & Resolutions (16)

AgendaOther

The meeting's planned discussion items.

Minutes from the 7th of August meetingOther

Minutes from the previous Planning Commission meeting.

Conditional Use Permit AmendmentPermit

Permit type requested by Cowan Elementary School for its expansion project.

Site PlanPlan

Architectural and engineering plans for the Cowan Elementary School project.

Zoning MapPlan

Map indicating the zoning designations of properties, relevant to Cowan Elementary's R1 zoning.

Comprehensive PlanPlan

Long-range city planning document, including the 2040 plan and discussions for the 2050 plan.

R1 single-family residentialOther

Zoning designation for the Cowan Elementary School property.

City CodeOrdinance

The municipal code referencing various standards for CUPs, site design, parking, and architectural requirements.

NFPA 110Other

A fire protection standard referenced in the proposed zoning ordinance text amendments.

Draft ResolutionResolution

Proposed resolutions for the City Council approving the Cowan Elementary CUP amendment and site plan.

Zoning Ordinance Text AmendmentsOrdinance

Proposed changes to the city's zoning regulations regarding encroachments and non-conforming structures.

Subdivision Ordinance (Chapter 153)Ordinance

Proposed full repeal and replacement of the city's subdivision regulations.

State Open Meeting LawOther

State statute governing transparency and public access to government meetings.

Home Occupation AmendmentOrdinance

A recently approved city ordinance regarding home-based businesses.

State Grant MoneyOther

Funding of $4-4.5 million from the state for the cultural center, which the city council voted to return.

Library LeaseOther

The rental agreement for the library's space within the community center building.

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