It's gotten pretty big now. It's really well attended. Um actually some safety concerns are being brought up due to how many people are coming and going and you know just the size of the yard that we have at the shop um to be able to collect everything in a safe manner.

Again this year it far exceeded what we thought even with that double line. Uh the line turned into a line that it worked out.

Some of our concerns and tennis, um, that talked to me after the event are, you know, starting to be safety concerns, you know, in our yard because, you know, they're loading a a refrigerator on a skid steer and then that skid steer is driving over to the the appliance trailers.

I've been waiting in line for two and a half hours I don't know how we don't know how to correct that I don't think that we can correct that with the space that we have.

I think the problem and what we recognized being down there was the cube trucks and how many cube trucks we have. And I think if we were to eliminate the cube trucks that this is I obviously this is discussion. It's open for discussion. All of this is but whether it's a trailer or we get rid of the cube trucks and your trailer has to be so big. Um, we limit that. I think that would help alleviate that.

I'd like to see bulk pickup back on our bills. I mean, for example, even though we had this bulk pickup that Saturday, the weekend after, I got a brand new mattress, but I couldn't get rid of my old one because I still needed to use it. So, I had bulk pickup and for $70, I got rid of two things. And I look at that and think, all right, that's my whole annual bill that I would be paying. Now I can get rid of more stuff with just a single charge like that. So I know some residents don't like that. Some residents um were upset by the bulk bulk pickup, but I think this is a perfect opportunity to bring and consider that bulk pickup coming back.

I think account when people when when things are flatout free anything free is worth saving up for. Yeah. it it it's I I think when there's really no skin in the game, you know, I I I think it makes it makes it worse.

But safety and I can't make it any more efficient. We can't make it any more efficient than it is.

I would argue that though I would say the b the cube trucks are not the cause of the safety concerns for Ron and Ry's staff. I would say the cube trucks are the cause of the concerns from the residents and the amount of time it takes to get through the line, but the size of the yard, the number of dumpsters that we have to have and everything like that is the cause of the concern for you guys. Correct. Yes.

So, um, basically, we have the two options. The one option is keep the event as is but have the changes either um adding a fee um limiting like no not taking any electronic stuff sending that all to Ramsey County and then doing a separate mattress event to totally eliminate that aspect of it. Um but I think city staff why we're here today is basically to get your permission to look into the option of doing a curbside pickup what that would look like. Um so basically running the numbers and bringing it back to you guys.