North St. Paul City Council — Transcript

Saturday, March 15, 2025

Student Commissioner Election

Mural Project Policy and Development

Public Art and Utility Box Projects

Event Planning and Budget Allocation

Future Arts and Culture Initiatives

Event Revenue and Funding Policy

Community Engagement and Digital Communication

Downtown Autumn Arts Festival Proposal

Votes (7)

Election of Student Commissioner

Unanimously Approved

Dissent: None

Moved by Commissioner Sharon Clark Williams [0:11:32] · Seconded by Commissioner Amanda Black [0:11:39]

The commission considered Ued Orosco for the student commissioner role, noting his strong essay, letter of recommendation, and positive interview. Vice Chair Neto highlighted his enthusiasm for civil service. Commissioners discussed his current involvement with CCE student council and the transition plan for the current senior student commissioner.

Subcommittee Reports and Project Planning

Discussion and Assignment of Tasks

Dissent: None

Moved by None · Seconded by None

Subcommittees provided updates on various projects. The Public Art Project confirmed its budget, though Art Nights funding was halved. The Murals subcommittee discussed the North St Paul Historical Society mural, an artist recommendation, and the need for clear policies for working with non-profits, including exploring a 'call for art' approach. They noted city limitations on new art on public buildings and proposed an 'opportunities page' on the city website. The Utility Boxes subcommittee outlined three projects (Casey, Veterans Park, Rod's) facing budget and artist selection challenges. Art Cart and Art Party (Art Night) updates covered scheduling, activities, and artist engagement. The Autumn Arts Festival committee reported on vendor outreach. Future concepts like 'Asian Night' and 'Free Little Art Gallery' were discussed, with the former needing further development and the latter put on hold.

Project Snowy Discussion

Decision to defer new full-scale 'Snowy' projects; potential for smaller 'snowy flags' noted.

Dissent: None

Moved by None · Seconded by None

A former mayor inquired about creating new 'Snowy' sculptures. The commission decided that producing one or two new snowies was too cost and labor-intensive without the bulk discount previously secured for eight sculptures. They felt it was too soon for another large-scale round but discussed a smaller, resident-focused 'snowy flags' project as a future possibility.

Event Revenue and Funding Policy Discussion

Discussion; Chair to consult City Finance Manager for clarification.

Dissent: None

Moved by None · Seconded by None

Commissioner Black raised a fundamental question about the flow of money generated from commission events (e.g., 'Art Night' fees, vendor payments for the Arts Festival). She inquired if these funds could be used directly to cover artist fees or supplement the commission's budget, rather than going into the general city fund. The discussion explored comparisons to the Parks Department's dedicated fund and potential legal/accounting complexities, as well as the city website's limitations for artist registrations.

Project Snow Cards Initiative

Plan approved, Jordan to check envelope costs.

Dissent: None

Moved by None · Seconded by None

City staff proposed distributing 'Project Snow Cards' at the Car Show (Big Truck Night), possibly in envelopes like collectible Pokémon cards. Commissioners discussed the cost implications of envelopes and considered a 'fish pond' style distribution method at the art cart. The initiative is seen as a branding opportunity for future events.

Autumn Arts Festival Downtown Relocation Proposal

Discussion; no immediate action but strong interest noted for future consideration.

Dissent: None

Moved by None · Seconded by None

Council Liaison Troy Woods reported on a 'Coffee with Commissioners' event where local businesses advocated for moving the Autumn Arts Festival downtown, specifically proposing to shut down 7th Street to draw patrons into local shops. This sparked a discussion about the city's previous consideration of this idea, the potential for a combined 'North St Paul Pride Celebration Weekend' with the parade and car show, and logistical challenges versus benefits, referencing successful street-closure art fairs in other cities.

Community Center Development Update

Informational Update

Dissent: None

Moved by None · Seconded by None

Council Liaison Troy Woods mentioned that a button is available in the city newsletter for residents to receive updates on the community center's progress. He also provided a brief update that the city manager and Riley recently met with a consulting company to begin initial discussions for their assessment of the project.

Notable Quotes (17)

Ed Orosco he's a wonderful young man very excited to get involved in civil service and giving back to his community so I was really impressed with him his essay I think speaks for itself he's got a great letter of recommendation from his AP social studies teacher I think all we need to do is do an official vote on yay or nay.

Vice chair Carrie Neto [0:05:40]
Election of Student Commissioner

I'll make a motion to have Ed or I don't know how to say the middle of name Garcia on the as our student representative to the city's arts and culture commission.

Commissioner Sharon Clark Williams [0:11:32]
Election of Student Commissioner

I think in general what it sounds to me like you're saying is there needs to be a outline and described overall policy of how we proceed with if we have X type of project we will proceed this way if we have Y type of project we will proceed this way and I think that that is a good methodology to use to have set in place rather than backtracking to it.

Chair Tom Sonic [0:14:50]
Subcommittee Reports and Project Planning

She said Rachel actually knew more than she did about Henry Castle which is not exactly that was my reaction too uh so I I contacted Rachel um she is not a muralist and did not think this would be a good fit for her but she gave me a list of names she was recently on a panel looking at muralists for a City of Minneapolis project.

Vice chair Carrie Neto [0:13:03]
Subcommittee Reports and Project Planning

I mean part of it was the discussion that we had here was already um we need a selection process for the artists because I found people but yet how do we go forward and Laura and I need to get together to discuss the budget because there are three concepts in process.

Commissioner Sharon Clark Williams [0:23:42]
Subcommittee Reports and Project Planning

I don't think it can be a spring event and I know she doesn't Eva would prefer it not be summer because of all the other events so I think at this point it's definitely into October November whatever it is if we had a building like a community Center for example that'd be wonderful.

Commissioner Amanda Black [0:30:17]
Subcommittee Reports and Project Planning

If there were at least 10 businesses interested then we could do a second round because then we could afford with the the molding and the whole process yeah then we could do it but if there's just one or two then we can connect them to the shop to get the to get a snowy.

Vice chair Carrie Neto [0:38:15]
Project Snowy Discussion

Like this year I think is too soon to just you know you can't just like every year oh yeah we're going to do you know it's a lot of work.

Commissioner Amanda Black [0:39:50]
Project Snowy Discussion

The money that people are paying to attend can we not use that money to pay the artists you mean rather than have it as a budgeted item no more like Can it can it be on top of the budget so the city's paying a portion but also people who attend are paying a portion do because do you think we the artists there would we would have more artists available if they were paid more yes.

Commissioner Amanda Black [0:42:07]
Event Revenue and Funding Policy Discussion

I mean I can talk to Dan Winnick the city finance manager and just see you know could that money could the money that's brought in from these events be earmarked at least for you know in 2025 be year marked for 2026 arts and culture commission events things like that.

Chair Tom Sonic [0:45:14]
Event Revenue and Funding Policy Discussion

I think everything has to run through the government system so that they can track even when we do surveys it has to be through the city website and you know I love many things about the city and our website is not one of them it is incredibly difficult to navigate and manage and I think that that's a real barrier for people that want to participate in our events and activities.

Commissioner Amanda Black [0:47:04]
Event Revenue and Funding Policy Discussion

Ava wanted to wanted me to run by you guys the project snow cards oh yeah um she was wondering or she thought maybe it would be a good idea to give them out at the C show and put them in little like envelopes so they're like kind of surprise like a Pokémon card so you don't know what you're getting and make it maybe a little more collectible.

Staff Liaison Jordan Layman [0:35:45]
Project Snow Cards Initiative

What if we had like a I always loved when they had the fish pond at those things where they just pull over and they pull out of oh we could do that easy something yeah just so we're not just handing them to kids maybe they're doing some they throw their thing in the art cart.

Vice chair Carrie Neto [0:37:05]
Project Snow Cards Initiative

It came from some several of the businesses brought up the point of it would be nice to have the you know events like that where they can you know some events don't make sense to have downtown but um events like the Autumn Arts Festival could it be could we shut down sth street and potentially set up the the vendors and things on Seventh Street and then that would encourage everybody who comes to the autom Arts Festival to stop in at sweeties or stop in at you know the local businesses.

Council Liaison Troy Woods [0:53:07]
Autumn Arts Festival Downtown Relocation Proposal

I will keep saying it to have that September weekend to be just like a North St Paul Pride Celebration weekend you have the parade and then the car show and then the Autumn Arts Festival that same weekend and it's just craziness that sounds great.

Chair Tom Sonic [0:55:04]
Autumn Arts Festival Downtown Relocation Proposal

Excel art fair is an excellent example of it and that's one that an art fair that I've done the last five years and as artist we're allowed to set up on Friday so the road is shut down by Friday and marked for where we can put our tents uh so we set up Friday evening Saturday all day we're there Sunday all day we're there and we tear on Sunday and they get their street back Sunday night love it so it happens.

Vice chair Carrie Neto [0:56:56]
Autumn Arts Festival Downtown Relocation Proposal

Are there any updates uh last I heard uh city manager and Riley met with the uh consulting company to start initial discussions about their assessments that they're going to do.

Council Liaison Troy Woods [0:58:34]
Community Center Development Update

Ordinances & Resolutions (5)

Arts and Culture Commission Mural Policy (drafted language)Policy

Existing draft language concerning engagement with private businesses for murals, which needs to be updated to include non-profit organizations.

Google Doc (Performer Suggestions)Other

An online document used for commissioners to submit suggestions for performers for city events.

City WebsiteOther

The primary digital platform for city information, identified as needing updates and an 'opportunities page' for the Arts and Culture Commission.

City NewsletterOther

Currently electronic, with renewed discussion about potentially reintroducing a paper version for homebound residents.

Event Planner SchedulePlan

An internal document used by city staff and commissioners to track and schedule Arts and Culture events.

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