Stand for the Pledge of Allegiance, please. >> Pledge of Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Thank you much. Uh roll call, please. >> Council Member Nordby. >> Here. >> Council Member Woods. >> Here. >> Council Member McKenzie. >> Here. >> Council Member Schwears absent. Mayor Mangi. >> Here. >> Thank you very much. May I get a motion to adopt the agenda, please? >> So moved. >> All Woods. >> Second. >> Second. Nordby, all those in favor say aye. Aye. Thank you very much. We have presentations that uh City Manager Frandle is very kind to read for me. >> Good morning, everyone. First proclamation is uh Building Safety Month. Um whereas the City of North Saint Paul is committed to recognizing that our growth and strength depend on the safety and essential roles of our homes, buildings, and infrastructure play both in everyday life and when disaster strikes. And whereas our confidence in the resilience of these buildings that make up our cities achieved through devotion and vigilant guardians, uh building safety and fire prevention officials, architects, engineers, building uh builders, tradespeople, design professionals, laborers, plumbers, and others in the construction industry who work year-round to ensure the safe construction of buildings. And whereas these guardians are dedicated members of the International Code Council, um a nonprofit that brings together local, state, territorial, tribal, and federal officials who are experts in the built environment to create and implement the highest quality codes and standards to protect us in buildings in the buildings where we live, learn, work, and play. And whereas these modern building codes and standards include safeguards to protect the public from hazards such as hurricanes, snowstorms, tornadoes, wildland fires, floods, and earthquakes. And whereas the ICC sponsors Building Safety Month to remind the public about the critical role of our communities' largely unknown protectors of public safety, our code officials who assure us of the safe, sustainable, and affordable buildings that are essential in our prosperity. And whereas Built to Last, the theme for the Building Safety Month 2026, encourages us all to get involved and raise awareness about building safety and the personal, local, and global scale. Whereas each year in observance of Building Safety Month, people all over the world are asked to consider the commitment to improve building safety, resilience, and economic investment at home and in the community, and to acknowledge the essential services provided to all to all of us by local, state, tribal, territory, and federal building safety and fire prevention department in protecting lives and property. Now, therefore, the mayor of North Saint Paul does hereby proclaim the month of May 2026 as Building Safety Month. Next up, we have proclamation for Mental Health Awareness Month. Whereas mental health is essential in the well-being and quality of life of individuals, families, and communities and providing understanding and acceptance helps reduce stigma and encourages people to seek support when needed. And whereas the city's or the nationwide 988 Suicide and Crisis Lifeline provides 24/7 free and confidential support for individuals in emotional distress or experiencing a mental health or substance use crisis. And whereas organizations such as the National Alliance on mental illness, along with other local national partners, provide ongoing advocacy, education, and support for individuals and families affected by mental health conditions. And whereas cities play an important role in promoting awareness of mental health resources, encouraging residents to seek help without stigma or hesitation. And whereas the month of May is nationally recognized as Mental Health Awareness Month dedicated to promoting mental mental aware wellness and reducing stigma for all. Now, therefore, on behalf of the City Council in the City of North Saint Paul, Mayor for the City of North Saint Paul, Minnesota, does hereby proclaim the month of May as Mental Health Awareness Month. >> Well, you made the meeting 10 minutes shorter, so thank you. >> All right, onto the consent agenda. Uh item A, May 5th, 2026 City Council Workshop regular meeting minutes. Item B, general claims of $1,312,045.05. Item C, HRA claims of $27,275.64. Item D, building permits for April of 2026. Item E, resolution accepting donations for April of 2026. Item F, resolution of support for reallocating of state bonding funds to the new water tower project. Item G, special event permit, Invisible Wounds Car Show. Item H, uh purchase of 1/0 and 4/0 primary underground cable. Item I, electric utility power adjustment. And item J, fire inspector classification update and memorandum of understanding with Essential Group. >> All right. Thank you so much. Would any member like to pull anything at this time? >> Yeah, I want to pull G and J. >> G and J. All right. You good on that? >> Yep. >> All right. Now, we have open to the public next, and John Schmal. >> Mr. Mayor. >> I'm sorry. >> Can we approve the ones that >> Oh, yeah, we got to >> Sorry, John. I was just have a quick little >> Yeah, just a quick seat. >> Should finish that up, right? >> You better do those first. >> Yeah, we'll finish that up. All right. Motion? >> So moved. >> So moved. Council member Norby? >> Second. >> Second. Woods, all those in favor say I. I. Thank you for catching that. I was John. This time I promise I'm not lying. >> You didn't lie. I just made a mistake. >> John Schmal, 2750 Chisholm Avenue, North St. Paul. >> Uh helping my neighbor out clear up some um brush, whatever, on her property. And uh started a conversation with uh did you answer or did you receive and did you answer the uh little postcard from the Watershed District. They wanted input about water or shoreline property owners. That's exclusive group, shoreline property owners. And it isn't Casey isn't a lake, according to them. And uh Ron could uh agree with that because he was there also when they brought that up. Anyway, she said uh I said that I'm unhappy with him with the algae growth and she said I'm unhappy with those damn lights that are on the on Casey. I said well, what's the problem? She said I went to a seminar on dark skies and those damn lamps out there they have no cover over the top. It's just one big light and she said that it causes the growth of algae and other problems. And I went what? And she said that's what they taught us at this seminar. So um I'm losing my artificial light um connection here. And I said well, you got to go in and talk to the city about that. They do this on every meeting. You can go in. Couldn't convince her. Not going to go. Not going to go in. So I thought how can I bring this up because what I've heard is hearsay. I don't have it. Except there's Google. And here is Google. Artificial light near water directly fuels algae growth by driving photosynthesis. When lakes and ponds are exposed to night lighting or dock lights, cyanobacteria, blue-green algae, and phytoplankton grow more rapidly. The localized light pollution exacerbates nutrient pollution leading to damaging or deranging well, and toxic algae blooms. So can we do something about those lights? The sign says that the park is only open till uh 10:00. Turn the damn things off. Let's do something environmentally friendly. Can we? And second lastly, what's happening with that hole that they're digging? They stopped. What's going on with that big area? Put something in the uh uh newsletter what's going on. The The trail is closed. Have you been over there? Have you tried to walk around the lake? Thank you. >> Thank you, John. >> All right. All right. On the city business, um we'll go to item G from the consent special event permit for Invisible Wounds car show. >> I just want to make sure that everything is all in line that you guys have got all your your um site plan and the fire department's got all their codes up-to-date with the food trucks and all this ready to go. >> Yeah, we have uh I was How's it going? So, this is my brother Chad. This is Brian. They're part of the group that's going to run the show. >> Okay. >> Um we do have our site plan submitted. Um we've been going through the special event permit stuff online. Uh all of our food vendors stuff was over to uh Jordan. And sounds like well, a lot of the vendors are a lot of them are repeats. Although, 19 of the vendors, because of just the way things went and in the every other a lot of the 19 of those vendors are not doing it. So, we're working on backfilling um at this point because of the timeline of um the city needing the stuff by the 20th so that they can get all their permitting. >> Mhm. >> Um we've already cut that off at this point as far as food vendors go. So, then the the fire department uh sounds like they will be doing on the 5th, they would do their walk-throughs >> Okay. >> and approvals of >> Each vendor. >> side of of the permits need to be. >> And then for road blockades, what are the what's going to happen there? >> Also, we have we have our own we're going to be having our own blockades. I talked to Brian earlier. Um originally I had uh the assumption or had the communication that I thought there were blockades already available, but I mean, blockades like that are pretty easy to make. I mean, I think we could probably pound out a hundred of them in a 4-hour period with our wood shop, so it's not going to be a big deal. >> Okay. Well, I just want to make sure you guys good luck and have a good summer out there, so >> Yeah. >> So, good. Appreciate it. >> Any other Anybody else sitting there ask anything or >> Thank you again for all that you do. >> We're really looking forward to this partnership. >> Yeah. >> I appreciate it. >> Yeah, thank you. >> Thanks. >> Thank you. >> Thanks. >> All right. You're good with that now? >> Yep. >> Okay, we'll move to for that motion, which is Let me go up there. Uh the special permit for the Invisible Wounds guy. Have a motion, please. >> So moved. >> So move. McKenzie? >> Second. >> Second. Norby, all those in favor say aye. >> Aye. >> Aye. >> All right. Thank you, guys. >> All right, next up is the MJ that was pulled, the fire inspector classification update and memorandum of understanding with the AFSCME Council 5 and Central Group. >> I'm just asking for this fire inspector's position, that that was pro made for an individual that had moved out of our city. And I'm not sure what his status is, if he's going to stay or if he's going to go. But if he's is he going to be getting another person underneath him? Or is it a position that we really because we've never had an inspector prior to this uh firefighter moving out of our district here. Is this something that we need to hold on to? So, that's my question is. >> Earlier, the uh that position has been around for a while that we uh added one. There is a separate position that does the fire um or the uh code enforcement. Uh this is going to be um a fire What's the marshal? Not marshal, fire um >> Fire inspector. >> inspector position. There's always been two of them. Um Brent was upgraded to the fire marshal position. And uh So, this is if uh they're looking to an internal opening of that position for internal I think currently as of now we have one person that qualifies for it with the training that they've had. And then what will happen is another position will be open for the fire inspector. The reason it's in here is a change because the title used to be fire inspector and fire inspector captain position. And uh that's part's going to go away. So, it's actually going to be a downgraded position that doesn't pay what it used to. So, um it'll be a savings for that position. >> Great. >> All right. >> Okay. Yep. Good. You good? All right. Can I have a motion on that, please? >> I'll so move. >> So move, McKenzie. >> Second. >> Second, Orbe. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Thank you very much. >> All right. Next up is the public alley private improvement uh process and approval. We have community development director Ken Roberts here to explain. >> Mayor, city council members, this is a uh continuation of our discussion that we had on May 5th during the workshop about public alleys and private improvements and the process approval that staff is proposing. As a brief review of the council we discussed at that meeting in earlier May that city staff had been approached by developer not developers property owners who wanted to improve their gravel alley with blacktop or bituminous. Unfortunately, we don't have a process or method on the books to say yes you can do that or no you can't. And so that spurred on this whole discussion and research and information that I'm providing to you that I provided at the last meeting and again tonight. So again, we don't have process or policies on the book and so it's our belief as staff that we should. And that's what I'm presenting tonight. And again as a review from the May 5th workshop it seemed at least as staff's impression council was supportive of putting in place policies and procedures to allow private property owners to make improvements into a public alley with several conditions. And we briefly went over those. So tonight I'm looking for direction and hopefully a confirmation from city council that we should put these into place put them into action and we will then have them for people that ask the question coming up in for the future. So again the alleys there's two really two types of alleys where we looked at last time the through alleys which go from street to street and then segments or portions of alleys which are really more common where I think this will come up. Some alleys clearly are improved and they're paved and they're fine, but there are many that are under improved, let's say only gravel or minimal blacktop. Some only have grass, some have a mix. But yet people try to use them and do use them for access to the rears of their property. And again, this map here will show it a little better. This is one sample area where there's This is uh Margaret Street here on the East End. There's an alley here where these three properties for sure access use the alley for access to garages or sheds. And there's some access at the other end that's in place now. Again, not improved. Just has gravel on its good days. Which doesn't always hold up, especially in the spring. I walked through the last meeting some uh high-level thoughts on what should be done or what could be done by the city. And for through alleys again, which will go from street to street, it's uh staff's opinion that that really if it if an improvement was proposed for an entire through alley, that that should be done as a public improvement project, not taken on by private individuals. And that's really not what our focus is for tonight. If we get a petition, and the engineers get involved, then that would come back to council again for a through alley for improvement. What I'm what the rules I'm proposing and staff has worked up are more if example if these folks here wanted to pave two or 300 ft of this alley as an example for uh better access to their properties. So, that's really an alley segment. And what I'm going going to go through here are really all the things we talked about the last meeting. The process with a uh several steps and involve uh uh uh pre-application meeting on the site with the public works director, possibly city engineer to look it over and for lack of a better term get the lay of the land, see if it looks even possible or feasible from a high-level visible um site visit. And then if so, uh in turn then the applicant or the property owners would make application to the city. And I view it similar to if we had a request for a variance or conditional use permit. There'd be some paperwork, some drawings, a uh statement saying why they want to approve it, exactly what they want to do. There would be I'm proposing an application fee of $500 plus an escrow fee of $1,000 to cover if there's legal there will be legal costs and potentially engineering costs. And those are the same fees again we charge for a variance or conditional use permit. We just be in a a new fee that we don't have currently. And that's one thing different than uh was brought up during the workshop. We didn't have a fee in mind at that time, but we do now. That's what I'm proposing. Uh the rest of these steps are again all the same that we talked about and I briefly spoke to the city attorney about number seven here. Uh we'd originally called it a license agreement and it's his opinion it's probably more likely an encroachment agreement, but again that's a legal document that the city gives the owners the permission to do what they want to do subject to conditions including that the city can use still use the alley. Uh they put in all the improvements at their own expense uh and it gets recorded the legal agreement gets recorded against the titles of all the affected properties. So future owners in theory should know about it. So, 10-15 years from now, somebody would come back to the city and say, "Well, this alley's falling apart. You need to improve it." There should be a recorded agreement says, "No, it was a private agreement, private improvement. The owners are responsible for that, and the city is not." >> Mhm. >> And that's one of the many things that would be included in the agreement. And again, it would be drafted by the city attorney and uh approved by a council if somebody got down that far down the road. Uh we would have we have minimums uh minimum specifications. City engineer would make inspections. And every would require final inspection when the project's done. We talked a little bit about the minimum construction standards, including removal, disposal of topsoil or and organic materials. And these are primarily for paving. Installation of a minimum base material of 8 in gravel and sand uh that would be compacted. There have to be at least 3 in of bituminous paving or 5 in or 6 in, excuse me, of concrete. The pavement would be 12 ft wide a minimum unless the public works director approved a narrower width. And most of the alley right-of-ways are 20 ft, so we don't want real wide. We don't need a freeway going down the alleys, but you got want to leave some room on each side for drainage, some grass areas, that kind of thing, snow to pile up if they plow it, that that those situations. City would not accept gravel or class 5 as a finished material. It would have to be paved with a impervious surface of some type. Uh if there are street connections that would need to be made, there would be have to be a concrete apron that meets our current engineering standards. Uh they have to maintain the existing drainage patterns. And they would have to have erosion control uh installed and maintained during the life of the project. So, what I'm asking for tonight with the council is first of all, or I can take questions, but our recommendation, and I have a motion here, is that uh council review these items of the information. And if you find the procedures and criteria acceptable, make the motion to approve the procedures, criteria, standards, and application fees as outlined in the report tonight, and then direct us to uh make uh make it all so and implement this process. Excuse me. And with that, I'll take questions. >> Between Margaret and Helen, what's the center of the alley? Is that all tree overgrowth? Or is it Is it graded into the point where it would be an alley? Or is from one end to the other, cuz I know from Margaret Street, what, three houses in, they want to do the uh >> In here. >> in- improvements in that. >> Right. >> And from the other end, I don't think they were asking for anything, but they would give them the opportunity to do it also if they wanted. >> Correct. But I I Mayor and Council, I have not investigated specifically the middle section here. >> Okay. That's I was just wondering because if the residents in the middle want to get up and down that alley, they'll be able to do it because you it's it's an unapproved alley anyway, so anybody can basically drive back there. >> As yeah, as long as the turf or grass >> Right. >> holds up, yeah. >> Right, exactly, yeah. So, I mean, to me if they want to do the the parkway alleyway I would, you know, like the class five is not a recognizable product, but the regrind that they grind up from the asphalt and concrete and all that, that would be your better base and it'd be a lot cleaner base for them to drive on. Providing they don't want to put a concrete driveway on. That would be about That would be the best base to put down. It's solid and it general once it gets laid in there, it doesn't move and that's basically the base they put underneath the roads now anyways. >> And whatever if this goes forward, we will work with our city engineer and public works director to make sure we have the the best specifications and all this. >> mean, I went through this with our alley back 20-some years ago and I was fortunate enough to have the neighbor that sold us the property, he did put a drainage in that attached attaches into First Street, so we were able to put the alley in being that the drain drain tile from the city sewer or the waterway was there. So, otherwise, yes, these guys would have a lot more cost involved by putting a sewer culvert in one end of their alley. So, but I would be okay with them using a solid base underneath it. >> But and I would think most people would want a solid base so it doesn't fall apart after three years. >> Right. Yeah, right. Right. >> I was just thinking as this was going on, what about signage? Cuz you know, you're going to see it's paved, somebody's going to turn and say, "Oh, this is an alley." and start driving. Well, it's only an alley until >> three feet >> the pavement stops. So, to me, it's like this is a dead end dead end or there has to be some kind of signage so people all of a sudden decide that oh, it's you know, it's paved. I'm going to start driving back there and just keep going. >> can't be you can't put a sign but anything back to because our public works has got to be able to get their uh >> No, I'm talking just a sign at the beginning of the alley that says, you know, dead end. You know, so people turn on the blacktop and they realize they they know they shouldn't keep going off, you know, where the blacktop stops. All of a sudden it's, you know, I don't want to be invited for all of a all of a sudden people start driving through because it's they know, just keep going and just go down the other end. >> We could we could certainly make that a >> I just think that's just to warn people when it turns this is, hey, this ain't a through. This is something that this is only a little part or >> Yep. >> private alley cuz they they're paying for it, you know. Of course private is really cuz we use it for utilities, so probably not that, but just something to to know that, you know, we don't expect traffic down here. >> We're not a through street or anything. >> Yes. >> Yeah, we'll we'll add that into the mix. >> Um one other thing that um I would like you you guys's opinion that I think we should direct staff to add is some sort of a notification process for the alley segments for all the properties that are abutting the alley so they have a period of time to go back to the city to go, "No, we want to get together and do the whole alley or no, I want to contest this or or whatever reason, but but some sort of notification and period where they could contact the city staff um about their thoughts >> I think I might have been thinking about it would be nice to have a through alley. All of a sudden it's like, okay, let's go all get together instead of just doing piece of it and then everybody asking later, you know, why didn't we just go through or we don't want this cuz we don't want anybody back there. >> Because it's amazing the folks in the middle of the alley if they need to get into the backside of their alley and it's an unapproved they're going to have a harder time and if these guys all to get together, band together as a residence, say all right, let's pay this small amount What we did is we paid a same amount all the way across. One fee, one time. The alley was done by city case come in and had the project done and was done by Shifsky's and that was it. We're done. So. >> I'd like the notification and be able to add to it if people want it. >> I think they should go around and just get the feedback from other residents. >> At least notice, yeah. Yeah. All right. >> Troy's thinking. I see it. >> No. >> Oh. >> He's don't think Took his hand off the keyboard even. Don't think it. >> Anything else we want to Are we Are we Everybody good moving forward with the way this is now? So, can I have a motion, please? >> So moved. >> So moved, Council member Woods. >> Second. >> Second, Council member McKenzie. All those in favor say aye. >> Aye. >> Aye. >> All right. >> Thank you very much. >> Thank you. >> Thanks, Ken. >> All right, reports from the city manager and departments. We had staff meeting today. One update is the parking lot between Sidewinders and the tattoo shops now done. We're adding the What do you call them? Parking barricades, if you will. >> Curb stops. >> Curb stops, there you go. So, they don't run into the walls. But yeah, it looks good. Electric department, they're working with the contractor down there at the Northwood Park area. Both contractors got I think most of their conduit in now. They're working to the aerial part of that project. Underground installation contractor's expected to begin work near North Tower Park during the first week of June. Um Full-time job offer's been offered to a lineman that they interviewed. Should be a good addition to the team. Communication has been busy planning for the summer events. They have first one's coming up here soon. First car show on June 5th and then they got two workouts in the park events that she's been pushing right now. Got a blood drive coming up here May 28th that still has slots available. So anybody interested in that. We're still doing the increased communications coming up for the uh plan for the time capsule project of pulling that out of the ground and then having that program. So that'll be pretty exciting. 50 years has been in the ground. Um Public works been busy with the student built house. Students were done as of last Friday of their school year. There's still a little bit of work left to do. It's contractor work. Whether or not it's They have some cabinets. They have uh cabinet tops uh and then we have what's on flooring and we're going to get the sewer and water in tomorrow. And then uh little bit of uh doing the grass work and landscaping. Wrap it up. Hopefully have it on the market come July. >> Wow, that's awesome. >> Um They also had a new hire that starts next Tuesday. Um so they're looking forward to that. Uh seasonal staff has been on board. I think I believe they have four of them that have started already. Um milling and paving work as uh started and progresses with the hopes of completing sometime before the holiday weekend. Is that correct? And uh community development and uh busy with many things but uh we did have a a good successful clean up day. Um a lot less vehicles but uh took care of a lot of stuff and now that we're next to council meeting we'll be talking about the solid waste program and uh see what it means moving forward with the cleanup day. But uh that's all I got for you. >> What was the total car count? >> 74. >> 74. Car count? >> Yep. Compared to last year it was well over 300. >> Yeah. Yeah. And we were all well organized this year. Everyone showed up. >> Yeah. >> And then you you mentioned that the people that showed up were very happy that they didn't have to wait in line. Even pay a little bit, they were still happy. >> Indeed. >> Okay, thanks. I'm going to Before I go I want to ask you a question, young man back there. Take your three steps to the microphone. How many spots I tried to keep count but I I lost interest or I couldn't figure it out. How many spots are we getting with Premium Sidewinders? Do you know? How many spots car spots are? >> you on the spot. I don't KNOW THE NUMBER. >> OH, ALL RIGHT. We we I got up to 20 and then I lost count. I couldn't remember if it was 19 or 20 so then I gave up. >> The striper was on the phone with Randy quite a bit on Friday night and then tried to utilize or they put as many in there as he could. That diagonal coming in against the building so it gives you some more room. >> Yep, that's just cuz that that curb cut there with the way the parking lot laid out, you know, we just kind of had to make something work there so I I did Sorry, I don't >> That's fine. I was just I was looking and I thought, man, there's a lot of spots. I saw them park over got yesterday and boy, I was talking to somebody said I've been trying to do that for 20 years getting that pavement done and man, it just makes the whole area look better. Just really brought a lot of >> and it gets striped and >> doesn't look like a crater, you know, a bomb hit there and just left a hole. >> And I think it'll get well utilized, you know, being what it is now so And I can give you an update number tomorrow. >> I was just I just said I I pulled over started counting and then I got to 20 and I couldn't remember I'm done. Goodbye. >> Well, if you talk slow, I can run out there and >> We'll hold the meeting for you open until we get back. All right. Well, thanks. It looks good. >> Go to the window in the back room here to call them. >> All right. Thank you for city manager for your report. So, now we're going to go on to commissions, committees, and all that fun stuff. >> Um our EDA meets June 9th coming up. And uh that's all I got here. I was going to go to the historical group last night, but I just didn't feel up to it. >> Okay. Yeah, it's going to be a good one at Stolmen's. >> Stolmen's group, yeah. >> You have anything, sir? >> Um I've got nothing. >> Nothing? >> The next planning commission will be on June 4th. >> That sounds good. Are you going to mention the water tower at all in this thing or >> It was in the >> Uh it's in the agenda. >> We have We're waiting for the official from the governor, but I can certainly give you some >> Yeah, well, let's give it some. We know that it's just to that point. >> I just got a text from Randy. He thinks it's about 36 parts. >> All right. Thanks, Randy. >> Uh yes, so we were very fortunate. We were able to reallocate the 4.5 million that we were initially working on look at putting into the uh community center, and we can reinvest that into the water tower. Uh went down and testified uh the mayor and Jack. Thank you very much for that. Um they did agree to that, both Senate and House. It just needs to be signed off by the governor. Um we're hoping for So, it'll be an upsize. So, we have what? 300,000 gallon tank there now. It'll go to a 750,000 gallon tank, which uh will add to the fire safety that we have for the coverage. Um it also Normally, what they want you to do is have enough reserve that would cover what a day's use would be, which it doesn't at this point, but it thus will take care of that. It's going to add pressure to areas that have low pressure on our system. It's just kind of a win-win by having this grant as well. We won't have to raise rates to have people pay for this water tower. I mean, this is just great all the way around. This tower that's up there now has been there for almost 80 years. These new towers are can are expected to last up to 100 years. So, this is really great thing for our community and very much appreciate it. >> That's great. Yeah, I've I mean, it's something that the whole everybody's going to benefit from. So, I appreciate everybody's hard work, staff, everybody being able to support this. It was a tough decision. I mean, we worked on this thing since we got the grant in '23 till now and you know, we were able to repurpose and we thank uh Representative Lilly and Representative and Senator Zong. Zong, sorry. That they stepped up and helped us. So, it was it was a great effort for everybody. So, I I appreciate I really appreciate it and looking forward to that getting started. And so, thanks everybody. >> Absolutely. >> Any new business? We kind of covered that there. How about you? >> Nothing for me. Everything >> Well, you got to say something before before you get paid. So, I wanted to make sure you at least said something. Good. How about anybody else? >> Um last Friday on the 15th, I had the honor of giving a city update to the local Maplewood, North Saint Paul, and Oakdale Rotary Club. >> Oh, great. >> Um it it it was well attended and it went very well. Sue Springborn was there. >> Nice. >> That was always nice, but just a wonderful group of people that do do some great things for local community. >> Yeah, they are a great group and I appreciate you. They heard it from me for 3 years. So, we could have a fresh face and some fresh person to do that. So, thank you for doing that. >> Absolutely. >> All right. Nothing else? I'll call for adjournment. >> So moved. >> So moved. McKenzie? >> Second. >> So moved. All those in favor say aye. >> Aye. >> Thank you all. June 2nd is our next meeting and everybody have a great week. >> You too. Thank you. >> Thanks.