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ONS Podcast - Episode 35 - A Kings Formula
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[0:00] Welcome to the ONS podcast with your
[0:03] host Lana Jacobson.
[0:05] >> Afternoon St. Paul is the ONS podcast
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[0:11] in for the first time, ONS stands for
[0:13] Office of Neighborhood Safety and we are
[0:15] a division of the city attorney's
[0:17] office. We work with our public safety
[0:19] partners, SPFD and SPD on alternative
[0:23] public safety measures. This podcast was
[0:25] created for departments like ours and
[0:27] community organizations to connect you
[0:29] to alternative public safety measures,
[0:31] programs, and your local growth and
[0:33] healing opportunities. Today we have
[0:36] guest Andre Reid. Ladies and gentlemen,
[0:38] Andre is the CEO and co-founder of A
[0:43] King Kings Formula. A King's Formula is
[0:45] a boxing and personal development
[0:47] program focused on building discipline,
[0:49] confidence, and life skills in youth
[0:51] through the art of boxing and
[0:52] mentorship. With years of experience as
[0:55] both a competitive boxer and coach,
[0:58] Andre has worked to create a safe and
[1:00] structured space where young people can
[1:03] channel their energy into something
[1:04] positive while learning valuable lessons
[1:06] about perseverance, respect, and
[1:09] selfworth. Andre, welcome.
[1:11] >> Thank you so much. Thank you for having
[1:12] me.
[1:13] >> Take 30 seconds and tell us about
[1:15] yourself.
[1:16] >> About myself?
[1:17] >> About yourself? Like where you from?
[1:19] What kind of neighborhood did you grow
[1:20] up in?
[1:21] >> I'm originally from Chicago, Illinois.
[1:22] Uh moved to St. Paul on the east side
[1:24] specifically right in this area. Lived
[1:26] in a Roosevelt town homes off of
[1:27] Maryland all my life pretty much. Um I
[1:30] moved to Dallas, Texas for college. Got
[1:32] my bachelor's in business there.
[1:35] >> I'm going to go into some icebreaker
[1:37] questions and then we're going to go
[1:38] more we're going to talk more about your
[1:39] organization and your business and how
[1:41] you're helping youth. So Andre, does the
[1:45] family look forward to Taco Tuesday or
[1:47] Friday night pizza?
[1:49] >> Oh man, it depends. Me and my wife taco
[1:52] Tuesday. the kids pizza,
[1:55] >> right? You guys do the margaritas and
[1:57] stuff, too.
[1:58] >> It It depends. My wife likes the
[2:00] margaritas, though.
[2:00] >> Yeah. It depends on who's sleeping,
[2:02] who's still awake, right?
[2:03] >> Exactly.
[2:03] >> Okay, next question. We love the
[2:07] nostalgia, Walt Disney World, or I've
[2:10] got a bunch of Daredevils and Marvel
[2:12] freaks in my house. We're going
[2:13] Universal Studios.
[2:15] >> Disney World. I never really watched
[2:17] Marvel and my kids are No, I don't know.
[2:20] I would say that I know like and I don't
[2:22] even know what area is like where does
[2:24] Batman lay. I'm not sure. I don't know
[2:26] nothing about it. I Transformers. I mean
[2:28] >> he's DC. He's DC.
[2:30] >> I don't know.
[2:31] >> My kids love Mickey Mouse.
[2:33] >> So I'm with the Mickey Mouse crew.
[2:35] >> Okay. The nostalgia. Okay. Let's pack up
[2:38] the car. We're going to the families for
[2:40] a holiday dinner. Or everybody start
[2:43] cleaning. We're hosting this year. And
[2:45] praise God I don't have to go nowhere.
[2:47] >> Both. But I'm going to go with at home.
[2:49] I love cooking out. I love doing the
[2:51] barbecue. I love having everybody over
[2:52] my house. So, everybody come over here.
[2:54] >> Me, too. I feel like at this point in
[2:57] life, I just want to be at home. And if
[2:59] you want to join me, you know where to
[3:01] find me. Cuz it's like getting in a car
[3:03] and driving from house to house. That's
[3:05] played out. Okay. So, you started off
[3:08] telling us about a king's formula, but
[3:10] first, let's back up. Why did you choose
[3:12] the name?
[3:13] >> So, I chose the name. It's a long story.
[3:15] I'm make it short. While I was in
[3:17] college, I thought I had a son at that
[3:18] time and so I was trying to make myself
[3:20] change and I was like, I want to build a
[3:22] brand and I don't know what to name it.
[3:25] And I felt like I had so many jack of
[3:27] all trades and I don't know what this.
[3:28] So I was like, all right. For me, I felt
[3:30] like my formula of success is just so
[3:33] many different things. And I don't want
[3:35] to make it so like little and make
[3:37] everybody like, hey, if you want to be
[3:38] successful, you have to be a boxer. So
[3:40] it's like, no, like your own king or
[3:42] queen's formula is what makes you
[3:43] successful. So it's it can be very
[3:45] broad, you I know some people who do
[3:47] boxing and they don't box like to be an
[3:50] an athlete, but it helps them mentally,
[3:52] then they go off to work a corporate job
[3:54] and then they go home and be a father or
[3:56] a mother. And that's their formula to
[3:58] success for them, right? That's their
[4:00] like king's formula. And so for me, I
[4:01] just took it as as that's a king's
[4:03] formula. Your formula to help you know
[4:06] that you're a king or queen, whatever
[4:07] your formula is, but stick to your
[4:09] formula. And so that's kind of what made
[4:11] me make that uh that name. I like that
[4:13] because there's no cookie cutter path,
[4:16] right? Everybody has a different path.
[4:17] Everybody has a different way that gets
[4:19] them from A to B mentally and
[4:21] physically. So, I like that. Where are
[4:24] you guys centrally located?
[4:25] >> Right here on the east side.
[4:27] >> Okay.
[4:27] >> Yep. Right here. St. Paul. Right off of
[4:29] Maryland. Uh the Roosevelt Town Homes
[4:32] right there.
[4:33] >> And tell me about how long ago it was
[4:35] when you got started with this.
[4:38] >> I started this 2018.
[4:41] I graduated high school 2014, went to
[4:44] college, dropped out, went back to
[4:46] college in Texas 2016. By the time 2018,
[4:49] I was kind of on the end of leaving
[4:51] college and I was like, "All right, I
[4:52] want to I know what I want to do. I want
[4:53] to build my own brand and that's when I
[4:55] first started off. I was gaining a lot
[4:57] of knowledge from the boxing world in
[4:59] Texas and I was actually training kids
[5:01] out there. I went to a historically
[5:03] black college and one of the big things
[5:04] they wanted us to do as well was going
[5:06] to the community." So I was in Dallas in
[5:08] their community helping kids out at
[5:09] first and that's where I wouldn't say I
[5:12] found my passion because I worked for
[5:14] the community in St. Paul as well. I
[5:15] worked for a program called YJC when I
[5:17] was younger. Okay. Um so just knowing
[5:19] that like that's my path is working with
[5:21] the kids and but just being in Dallas a
[5:23] whole different city town location and
[5:26] seeing that I was it was still like
[5:27] shining my light. I just knew like okay
[5:29] I'm doing this everywhere I go. This is
[5:31] what I want to do. So yeah like 2018
[5:33] Dallas, Texas.
[5:34] >> So your passion is for the youth. It's
[5:36] for the youth. And I mean, honestly,
[5:38] it's for the youth, but it's for anybody
[5:40] that because it doesn't matter the age,
[5:42] but anybody that's kind of not sure
[5:44] where their light is at. Anybody that
[5:47] just kind of need that extra push to be
[5:49] more confident in their self because a
[5:51] lot of times that's that's the problem.
[5:53] We we have our own issues in life. It
[5:55] makes us feel like we're little and then
[5:58] you go and find a drug or you go and
[6:00] find some other addiction to kind of
[6:04] >> go away from your your thoughts when
[6:05] it's like we just need we need we need
[6:07] more people around us to push us,
[6:08] motivate us. It's okay to fall but just
[6:11] keep getting back up and be confident
[6:12] and be be blessed and be rewarded for
[6:15] the things that you are doing. And I
[6:17] just always seen that in my community
[6:19] whenever there was like that bad kid or
[6:22] >> that kid that you can say you can see
[6:23] straying away, they're just not getting
[6:25] that positive push from somebody.
[6:28] They're always getting yelled at. And
[6:30] somebody sometimes kids want any
[6:32] attention. So if all they're getting is
[6:33] yelled at, then they're going to keep
[6:34] being bad because you're giving them
[6:35] attention.
[6:36] >> So sometimes it's like just steering it
[6:37] away. Push them to do better and then
[6:39] give them that good confidence and that
[6:40] good uh reward for doing good and let
[6:42] them know what that feels like so they
[6:44] can stop wanting to be bad. You know, I
[6:46] fell in love with boxing, came back
[6:48] here, and at first just kind of was
[6:50] doing it for my own right to turn pro to
[6:52] make money. Recently, my father passed
[6:55] away from drugs overdose over here on
[6:57] the east side in St. Paul. And just
[6:59] seeing that my community, how big the
[7:02] drug is into our community, and I can't
[7:04] say I know the reasoning, but from my
[7:06] experience, it's usually a lot of like
[7:08] selfdisipline and and lost in the world
[7:11] and needing therapy. And so just
[7:14] combining boxing with that mentorship of
[7:17] just being from the community and the
[7:19] kids and the people in my community
[7:20] trust me, it just helped me and help
[7:23] them kind of build their yourself
[7:24] mentally to be more stronger and
[7:26] hopefully stray away from drugs and find
[7:28] more things they can build into. And so
[7:30] that's kind of what I'm doing right now.
[7:32] >> That's awesome. And I'm sorry for your
[7:34] loss. So just a little quick smidg, I
[7:38] know like my kid, he works for St. parks
[7:41] and wrecks and he also works for um the
[7:44] school system as well during that's his
[7:47] like day job and then he goes to the
[7:48] wreck after work and one of the things
[7:51] that he loves about his job is working
[7:54] with the kids and being a positive role
[7:56] model and one of the things that he gets
[7:59] that from is what me and um Anton my
[8:02] silent partner we were just talking
[8:04] about like growing up he didn't have
[8:07] that he didn't have that mentorship ship
[8:10] and he didn't have that kind of
[8:12] relationship with his father. So
[8:16] he just finds joy in being who he wish
[8:20] he had to the youth. And so I want to go
[8:23] back. Can you give us just a little bit
[8:26] about your upbringing because I'm
[8:27] wondering if your upbringing plays into
[8:29] a part of you being so passionate about
[8:31] >> Oh yeah.
[8:32] >> wanting to be a mentor to youth.
[8:34] >> Yeah. Um just like just like your son.
[8:37] Um I grew up in a weird situation. my
[8:40] mom and pops both being from Chicago,
[8:41] both having their own trials and
[8:43] tribulations um and them splitting.
[8:45] >> I was always my dad was always in and
[8:47] out of my life, but it was hard for him
[8:49] because of his drug addiction.
[8:50] >> Um but whenever he was, he would always
[8:52] give me like that love and and that
[8:55] attention. And on my mom's side, which
[8:57] is the the person that I actually lived
[8:58] with and grew up with, she kind of
[9:00] pushed me away because I'm a spitting
[9:02] image of my dad and and her own mental
[9:05] disorders
[9:06] >> made it hard for her to show love and
[9:08] affection to me. So my whole life I've
[9:10] never really gotten it, but I was
[9:12] blessed because I was always
[9:14] strongminded. So when I go off to
[9:16] school, I will always have those people
[9:17] that wanted to mentor me that always see
[9:19] I was doing good.
[9:20] >> I am thankful for God. I never was like
[9:23] a kid that went off and be bad because
[9:24] of my situation. I just went off and
[9:27] kind of tucked my head down and was
[9:28] doing good, but God always put somebody
[9:30] around that would see my light and they
[9:32] would pour into me and and just growing
[9:34] up, I knew like that felt so good. And
[9:37] for me to kind of slowly do that to
[9:38] others, I just yeah, I fell in love with
[9:40] it.
[9:41] >> Thank you for being so vulnerable. Um
[9:43] I'm old so I cry a lot. So if you see me
[9:45] over here misting, it's because your
[9:47] story is just so beautiful. Um tell our
[9:50] audience about how your organization
[9:52] works for the wellness of the mind,
[9:54] body, and soul.
[9:55] >> Yeah. So it's actually a two-piece.
[9:58] First part is the boxing, but it's not
[10:00] just boxing, right? It's it's all
[10:02] physical. So, strength and conditioning,
[10:04] working out, but it's really just
[10:06] getting the kids out, teaching them
[10:08] boxing, and having fun. One thing that I
[10:10] feel like God has gifted me with is
[10:11] knowing how to connect with kids. So,
[10:13] it's not necessarily me trying to teach
[10:15] them the right exact way to box all the
[10:17] time. Sometimes it's just having fun,
[10:19] letting them learn something new, little
[10:20] at a time,
[10:21] >> and then a lot of the time it's us
[10:23] talking through with a lot of things.
[10:25] I'm usually while training them, putting
[10:28] affirmations into them, letting them
[10:29] know, you know, this is just like life.
[10:31] It's going to be hard. you know, you got
[10:32] to push through. You know, if I got kids
[10:34] doing push-ups and they they failing,
[10:35] it's okay. Life is like this. You're
[10:37] going to fail and it's going to be hard.
[10:39] >> Breathe. Do it again. Give me the best
[10:41] you got. You know, it's not about being
[10:42] perfect. And so those things and to
[10:44] watch it transition into them into
[10:46] anything else in life, you know, and and
[10:48] them wanting to come back to me and
[10:50] telling me about other things they're
[10:51] doing in life, like, "Hey, Andre, I did
[10:52] good in school today and I did." Like,
[10:54] it's like, "Okay, bet." You know? So,
[10:55] now we're having different
[10:56] conversations. It's not just about
[10:57] boxing. You might have gloves and mits
[10:59] on, but now we're really talking about
[11:01] real life.
[11:02] >> Um, and then I try to put every jack or
[11:05] trade that I got in me. Uh, just for an
[11:07] example, now I'm in construction class
[11:09] slashworking.
[11:10] >> So, I teach the kids that sometimes we
[11:12] can build little boxing shelves and
[11:14] build whatever. It's just like giving
[11:15] kids more options to do something else
[11:18] >> and talk and community. And
[11:20] >> so, yeah, that's kind of how we do it.
[11:21] Um,
[11:22] >> I love it. I love it. How does your
[11:24] organization play a role in creating
[11:26] safe spaces for youth to congregate?
[11:29] Yeah, just kind of like I said in a
[11:30] sense though, but having that it a lot I
[11:33] have a lot of kids who at first the
[11:34] parents come to me because they want
[11:36] their kids to you know kids are being
[11:38] bullied at school or kids don't really
[11:40] have friends and so I have them come do
[11:42] oneonone let them see that like I'm a
[11:44] comfortable person to be around and to
[11:46] be with first then slowly build them
[11:48] into my group classes where there's more
[11:50] five six kids
[11:52] >> and then kind of having them do
[11:53] icebreaker stuff having them work
[11:55] together um making myself be the
[11:57] vulnerable person. So before they all
[11:59] mess up, I mess up on purpose in front
[12:01] of them. I may fall so we can all laugh,
[12:03] you know, like I'm cool being the person
[12:05] they can all laugh at together because
[12:07] once they start laughing together, now
[12:09] they start talking together and now
[12:11] they're friends and now they feel safe
[12:12] to be around each other. Even they don't
[12:14] know each other. They're not even from
[12:15] the same world, but now
[12:18] >> they're they're connected and now they
[12:19] feel safe. Now they can talk. And then
[12:21] you look up and they're giving each
[12:23] other vulnerable moments. And so it's
[12:25] just that very safe space to talk and to
[12:28] have therapy with each other.
[12:29] >> I love that. What are your goals for the
[12:32] people in St. Paul or for your youth in
[12:35] St. Paul that you're serving?
[12:38] >> To find their own formula.
[12:39] >> I mean, it's it's that simple. I don't
[12:42] have nothing that I want them to do
[12:43] other than find their light and run to
[12:46] it,
[12:47] >> you know, and run away from the drugs. I
[12:49] mean, we're all from the east side or
[12:50] living on east side. I know we all hear
[12:52] and know about the the drugs that's
[12:54] going on around right now and it's sad
[12:56] cuz I have so many friends that have
[12:58] passed away because of these drugs and
[13:00] this is like I don't want to see the
[13:01] next generation going through that soup.
[13:03] >> Yeah.
[13:04] >> So just really having them find their
[13:05] light. The more you can find your light
[13:07] the way you know the more you get away
[13:09] from those addictions. I was so before
[13:12] we before the p well once I reached out
[13:15] to you and asked you to be on the
[13:16] podcast you know I had to spy on you
[13:18] right and so when I typed your name into
[13:21] Google did you know well maybe you
[13:24] probably do know but you come up as one
[13:27] of the most 10 positive life coaches in
[13:31] St. Paul
[13:32] >> Wow I did not know that.
[13:33] >> Did you know that?
[13:34] >> I did not.
[13:35] >> Okay. You going to have to Google
[13:36] yourself if people want to get a hold of
[13:38] you or want to come out. so that you can
[13:40] coach them and and have their kids
[13:42] participate. How can they get a hold of
[13:43] you?
[13:44] >> Social media. My name on there is Andre
[13:46] Reed. I got two E's. So, A N D R E E R E
[13:49] I D. If you look that up, it's only
[13:51] about three of us. It's not too many
[13:53] Andre Reeds with that name. Um on
[13:55] Facebook, same name. Instagram,
[13:58] anywhere, however you can get a hold of
[14:00] me. 612916-6850.
[14:03] My number is literally only my immediate
[14:05] family and whoever else calls usually
[14:07] trying to find a way to be to find their
[14:09] own light. So I'm I always answer my
[14:11] phone to whoever.
[14:12] >> There you have it, you guys. A king's
[14:14] formula. The city of St. Paul is working
[14:17] hard to rehabilitate, intervene, and
[14:19] provide safer neighborhoods. If you'd
[14:21] like to learn more about Community First
[14:23] Public Safety and the Office of
[14:24] Neighborhood Safety, please visit us at
[14:26] stpaul.govs.
[14:30] If you want to learn how to get a hold
[14:31] of Andre, you can just rewind and you
[14:34] can get his phone number and visit him
[14:35] on social media. Facebook is where I
[14:38] found him. Well, not initially, but
[14:40] Facebook is where I found him. Thank you
[14:41] for coming, Andre. Yeah, thank you for
[14:43] this opportunity.