Stand for the pledge of allegiance. Meet to order. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, liberty and justice for all. >> Thank you much. Roll call, please. >> Council member Nordby, >> here. >> Council member Woods, >> here. Council member McKenzie >> here. >> Council member Schwear is absent. Mayor Mongi >> here. Thank you much. I have a motion to adopt the agenda, please. >> So move. >> So move. McKenzie. >> Second. >> Second. Woods. All those in favor say I. >> I. >> All right. Thank you very much. >> All right. On to the consent agenda. Item A, June 2nd, 2026 workshop and regular meeting minutes. Item B, general claims of 1,522,226.76. Item C, HA claims of $13,95829. Item D, EDA claims of $55,776.81. Item E, tobacco sale license renewals for 2026 to 2027. Item F, liquor license renewals for 2026 to 2027. Item G, resolution accepting donations for May of 2026. Item H, new appointment to the Park and Recreation Commission. Item I, approval of complete curb and sidewalk improvement on 7th Avenue. And item J, relocation of fiber service from community center to the public works building. >> Thank you very much. Anybody would like to pull anything at this time? If not, can I have a motion? >> So moved. >> Woods. Second. Second. >> Mackenzie. All those in favor say I. >> I. >> Thank you very much. All right. 6:30. John Schmall, >> this is leading over to the public, correct? >> Yes, sir. >> Hey, John. >> Evening. >> Uh, just a suggestion, a first item. If you see someone in the audience that hasn't been here before and it's obvious that you can pick them out because there's nobody here anyway. And so that one person would be in addition to myself. and the person happens to be in their mid 80s, you can make a judgment like was at the last meeting. Why don't you just come out in that 10 minutes after the uh workshop before the meeting and do you have something that you might want to say because they're not there to uh tick off an item on their bucket list. They're there for a reason and this woman was. but they get a better deal because they get more than three minutes like the last time because you got to straighten it out. The second item is the uh situation that is it going to happen with the electric bill for the month of uh June that we get uh on sometime in July and the reduction in the uh rate for the power adjustment which I still you ought to have the the newspapers come to this uh city and do a story on uh that the rates for electricity across the nation have gone up 6% over a year, but you are reducing an item that you've already paid out because it's a power adjustment adjustment and has been paid for. But it was said at that workshop meeting and there hasn't been anything in the newsletter about this. I mean, this is wonderful. Get the newspapers, get the TV stations here to do a story on that you're reducing electric rates to your citizens. It is a story. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thanks. >> All right. >> All right. On to city business action items. Four items on the docket for tonight. Um first one up is a variance request for 2130 Corn Place. Turn that over to Mr. Ken Roberts, our community development director. >> Thank you, Brian. Members, mayor and members of the council. This is a request for variance for the property at 21 Where' it go? All right. 2130 Kinan Place East. Uh the This is a map of the property here. It's almost a 1acre lot on the corner of Cowan and Sixth. Goes Calin's here and then this is Holloway down at the back. This is the home if you recall six weeks ago, two months ago where we had the conditional use permit for the accessory dwelling unit. >> So, it's right next to that just for location. These are the existing conditions from their survey. They are proposing to add a 40x30 detached garage in this location. And to do that, they're proposing to I'll go to this one. Demolish a smaller attached garage and a smaller detached garage and just have one new detached garage. The ground floor area of the house is 940 square ft and the city code limits the size of detached accessory buildings to a maximum size to the same size as the ground floor area of the home. In this case, that would be 940 square ft. So, they're asking for a variance of 252 square ft to build the larger garage than normally would be allowed by code. the applicant uh with their uh submitt and their application included these fi these findings uh and each one of these is a point for them to uh try to explain their request. So first explain how you wish to vary from the applicable applicable provisions of the ordinance. Their answer was we wish to exceed 1,000 square feet ordinance the size limit to 1,200 square feet. Is the variance in harmony with the proposed purposes and intent of the ordinance? We believe the variance is in harmony with the purposes and intent of the ordinance given the size and current use of the property and neighboring properties. This variance provides an example of proper storage and use of the property. Third point, will the variance adversely affect health, safety or general welfare of the city? Their answer is the variance will not adversely affect the health, safety, general welfare of the city because it subsequently gives better aesthetic to the locality and pre presents proper storage use. Does the proposal use the property in a reasonable manner? their answer. The proposal does use the property in a reasonable manner given the nature of the layout of the existing structures both on and near the property. And the last point is the variance necessary due to special conditions that are particular to the property. And their answer was the variance is necessary due to special conditions that are particular to the property given the size of the property and which it is used for. Those are from the applicant. So a little refresher course the variance review criteria in our city code is any variance request needs to be consistent with the comprehensive plan and the zoning ordinance as we just went through not adversely affect the health safety and welfare should be because of special conditions are particular to the property and any variance should be the minimum variance necessary to alleviate the practical difficulty. We had a public hearing with the plane commission back on June 4th with the applicants came and were uh able to uh speak their present their proposal and answer some questions with the commission. We had two neighbors get up. They didn't wish to be identified, but they did support the variance request as well. And really what it comes down to is it's a wants versus needs. They want the the large garage, 1,200 square f feet. Great. We want people to build garages and put their stuff inside. However, the code says you can go up to 948 ft. And we didn't find any special conditions or any special reasons in the code preventing them from meeting that 948 square ft. They want larger they they they want a larger garage. So it's in in staff's opinion because of that this request does not meet all the criteria in order for the city to grant a variance. Uh again the project meets many of the criteria. It won't harm the neighborhood. It will be in keeping with the neighborhood. But when we look at the plight of the land owner is due to circumstances unique to the property and not created by the land owner and the variances necessary to special conditions that apply to the land. Uh staff's response to that is although the size of the lot is large for the zoning district, the existing lot size does not prohibit compliance with the zoning ordinance. Plan commission reviewed this again at the public hearing on June 4th. They unanimously recommended denial and staff agrees with that and we have a resolution for you recommending denial of the variance application for the uh oversized accessory garage at 2130 cow in place. I do not see the applicants here but I know they were notified. Okay. >> Any questions? Any more input from the planning commission that that you were part of? >> Unfortunately, I had to miss that meeting. So, I rely on um Ken to give us >> All right. >> That that information. >> Any questions? Um, if we were to deny this, could he come back with a smaller proposal to hopefully get it a little bit more into a an alignment so it could be put in? And does he have any plans of black topping or concrete in his driveway? Because that's part of the uh deal. If he wants to put a drive a garage in, he should have it make it black top or concrete for hard service. Two points there. Uh, if we got a proposal in to build a 948 square foot garage here, I'm showing it on the screen here using this existing concrete garage or driveway. Great. They could build that all day, no problem. >> Okay. >> This is that's the maximum size. >> Does he have concrete down in there now? Do you He does. Okay. >> That's already serving the >> existing garage that would be demolished. >> The detached garage attached garage. Okay. >> Well, I think he should come back and just small shorten up his dimensions a little. >> We suggested that >> he wanted to go through with his variance request. >> Okay. >> Think it's good precedent not to have the garages bigger than houses. I think that's the reason why we did that over the years. >> So, any for no other questions? Do you want to read what we're going to or I can read it the variance to deny? >> Yes. And so really council would be making a motion to adopt the resolution to deny the variance application for the property at 2130 Cronin Place East. >> Okay. All those in favor to deny say I. >> I. >> I. >> All right. Any opposed? Okay. >> Motion. Didn't I do that already? That's what I just He read it. >> Yeah, but who made then who made the motion? >> Oh, I'm sorry. >> Can I motion that our vote went to the motion? >> There you go. >> Motion by Jason. >> I can second that. >> Second that motion. We voted on it. All those in favor say I. I. >> I. Opposed. Okay. Thank you. >> I hope he comes back and just shortens it up a little. >> All right. Next up is the zoning ordinance text amendment for accessory dwelling units right next door. >> That would be me again. So speaking of that home next to the one there on cover in place. >> Yeah, we had uh back in April the application for the accessory dwelling unit in that uh attached garage in that home right next to this one. Uh but the way the or accessory dwelling unit ordinance is currently written, they could not have as large of space in accessory dwelling unit as they wanted. There was a size limit similar to the garage ordinance that we just talked about. So because of that, the planning commission asked staff to look at the ordinance and see if we could make some changes. And uh again, it was April 21st. Council looked at this request for the conditional use permit for the ADU at 2121 Holloway. Again, that's this house which was right next to that lot on Cin. They were going to convert this whole space into a accessory dwelling unit. It was going to be about 1,250 ft total. And council approved that subject to two conditions. Well, there's six conditions, but two relevant to this application. The applicant shall amend the proposed floor plans to show the ADU with a square footage of no more than 900 square feet to be in compliance with the code. And if the city approves a zoning ordinance text amendment to allow the ADU to be uh 1,258 square feet or larger, the city will consider the applicant's original proposal for the ADU in the existing attached garage approved. So, our task as staff and the plan commission was to go rework the existing ADU ordinance and see if we could make it better. What we're proposing is some language that clarifies amends and clarifies the definition of an ADU. uh amends the maximum size of the attached accessory dwelling unit to 40% of the floor area of the principal dwelling and the maximum size of a detached ADU to 1,000 square ft which relates to the maximum size of a detached accessory building. So there's several lines of words here that we've added in. We we and this is the code language specifically. We excuse me make sure the reference that it has to uh meet the requirements of the state building code. Excuse me. It must be fully separated from the principal dwelling unit. Uh with the separating wall, they may have a door connecting the unit, the ADU ADU unit to the principal dwelling. It can be in a freestanding structure on the same property as the principal dwelling andor with attached to the detached garage, a DTS garage. And to clarify, North St. Paul does not consider campers, recreational vehicles, trailers, andor other temporary structures as ADUs. Just to make sure no one tries anything a little wonky, here's where the the biggest change relative to the previous application. We had a maximum size of 900 square f feet. We've changed that to 40% of the floor area of the principal dwelling. And in the applicant's case, uh that would allow them to have,60 or 80 square feet of ADU, which would be enough to accomplish their uh request, initial request. And then so that scales up. The larger the home if it's attached, the larger the ADU can be. So you do it on a percentage and not just a flat uh square footage limit. Also proposing to add language that the owner or contractor must connect the accessory ding unit to municipal sanitary sewer and water. Connections for the ADU. Sanitary sewer and water must be provided from service lines shared with the principal dwelling unless otherwise approved by the public works director and that owners may not sell accessory dwelling units separately or independently from the principal dwelling or create a separate tax parcel. It's all one property. It has to stay as one property. We don't want it somebody trying to split it off and create a little substandard lot. So, plan commission reviewed this on June 4th with the changes proposed by staff and they uh recommended approval of on a 50 vote of what staff was proposing and I'll take questions. Otherwise, we're recommending council adopt the zoning ordinance text amendment with the motion that approves ordinance 2026-XX, an ordinance amending portions of chapter 154 of the North St. Paul City Code, regarding the definition of an accessory dwelling unit and accessory dwelling unit regulations. So, you're increasing it from the 900 up to approximately 1,200 >> for this property. >> For this property, >> well, for this particular property, I I checked it. I I know it was at least 1260. >> So, it would accomplish. >> Well, we're going to 40%. >> I like the change to percentage. I think it makes more sense rather than a set >> number. So, >> I agree. >> Yeah, I do, too. >> All right, we're going to do it right this time. Can I have a motion? Let's try it that way. >> So moved. >> So moved. Council member Woods. >> Second. >> Second. >> All right. The motion is that we are going to adapt the 2026 dwelling unit. And we have a second by Council Member McKenzie. All those in favor say I. >> I. Thank you. >> All right. Next up is the Mcnite Athletic Complex Preliminary Design Development Professional Services Proposal. Turn that back over to you, Ken. I'll go again. Excuse me. >> Your voice gonna make it? >> Yeah, I'm powering through. >> All right. >> Uh, this is a little different proposal, but kind of a fun one. Uh, it's a contract with WSB for preliminary design development professional services for the Midnight Mcnite Athletic Complex. Council is aware the Mcnite Athletic Complex has got several fields and uses on the property. 2024 is city contract with HA HGA to develop designs for three parks including Mcnite athletic complex and how to refresh them and maybe redevelop them. uh their concept planning. Again, that's high level concept that includes demolition of two tennis courts, the T-ball field and parking lot, adding a flex field, escape park, playground, green open space, and event space, and new parking. Since then, the city has identified the need for storage in the complex for both public works and electric departments. there uh those weren't incorporated in the initial concept plans. We have learned though that since the HDA design there is no there are no land use restrictions from a previous agreement with the United States Housing and Urban Housing and Urban Development Agency which the where our fear was there was rules in place that said it had all be used for park and that was in place for a while but we did find memorandum that said that that restriction has been lifted council authorized and the had a survey done of the Mnight Athletic Complex, which is a first step in figuring out what can be done there and how to design it. So, now we're to the next step. We're uh wanting to get more detailed uh concept plans and preliminary design plans for the uh layouts and maybe some options and uh parks commission is supportive of this. So, a little reminder, this is the existing Mcnite Fields, Highway 36 to the south, Mcnite Road to the west, 11th Avenue up here, four softball fields around, tennis courts, conungle baseball field, a T-ball field, and parking and batting cages there. Some of those elements stay, some would go if everything got built as the concept plan shows. Excuse me. So, uh, this one again, the parking here, McNight Roads over here to the west. This is the flex field that was talked about. This would be a playground, climber, green space, open space, skate park. Here's number six, an event space. Conunk field remains the same. That doesn't change. And the concept plan shows two southern softball fields remaining. This is the batting cages up here. And then the two northern softball fields being uh refurbished or redone with turf and could be used for multiple different sports whether it's soccer, lacrosse, or even softball and artificial turf. Those are the HDA designs. staff has been working then with uh WSB to uh put together site evaluation and preliminary design plans for this and there's many elements that uh need to be done to design it correctly including uh geotechnical exploration and asbestous and regulated material survey wetland delineation natural resources review. We would have stakeholders with meetings uh meetings with stakeholders, excuse me. They would develop some schematic designs and a preliminary development design with cost estimates and phasing options because just for example, we don't want to say we want to build this but yet that gets in the way of something we want to build over here. We got to know which piece comes first and then second then third that kind of thing. So phasing will be very important. Clearly we'll work closely with the parks commission and the the uh city council but uh the evaluation process will determine the feasibility of the features, get some cost estimates and the recommended phasing and WSP estimates this process will take six to eight months to complete. There are representatives from WSP here if you have questions for them. I'm giving you the high level overview, but staff's recommendation that the council approve and authorize city manager to execute the contract with WSB for the preliminary design development professional services as dated June 10th, 2026 for the Mcnite Athletic Complex with a not to exceed amount of $129,000. Okay. I know that the soil up there is pretty bad. Are we going to be doing >> lots of soil borings >> before? >> Yes. >> Because >> that's the geotechnical. >> Yeah. That could put a derail quite a bit because I know that when they did the Costco up there when they kind of was on the same thing was like walking on a mattress. I remember it took them forever to get down to good dirt. >> Yeah. Ron's told us all about the fine soils out there. >> Any questions? Anybody? I >> I have one and it's more of a technical question than this particular project. Um, from everything WSB's ever done for us. Um, they've done an exemplary job. Um, but one of the things I don't understand is when does a project like this have to go up for a bid and when or do we just get to choose WSB? >> Just I bet Morgan has an answer. It's a little odd that I'm answering that question, but I can certainly provide the context as u having been a consultant engineer for coming up on 30 years. So, um, under and I'll defer to the city attorney if he wants to add more color commentary, but, um, hiring a professional services profant for engineering or architecture or, um, uh, building, uh, you know, building official like, you know, uh, many cities use, um, consultants for different arrangements. Um, it's it's a little bit different than municipal contracting law. So, hiring a contractor for like to build your streets or to work on utilities, uh there's very clear um direction in terms of how cities might go about uh taking sealed bids, comparing those. Um requirement to award a contract to the lowest responsive and responsible bidder, that sort of thing. Um professional services a little bit different. There's no requirement to have to go out, you know, certainly you can go out for RFPs. The city has gone out for RFPs for different things uh for professional services and other things because of the standing uh contract with WSB. you know, if a proposal is reviewed and accepted, then certainly could be presented to city council for consideration for um award in that situation without kind of like a if you want to call it competitive, but there's also no statutory requirement to award a professional services contract to the low bidder, for example, right? It's more qualifi or could be considered more qualifications-based or uh otherwise. It's not necessarily the same as contracted construction uh services, if you will, if that makes sense. So, um you know, this is simply um an extension of what the the contract that the city does have for ongoing professional services. Certainly, general engineering, city engineering is one of them. um for specific types of things like a project uh you know doing construction administration on one of your projects as you've heard me present those types of things to council before um the acceptance of that letter proposal then becomes you know a part of that st standing contract that has been in place between WSB and the city of North St. Paul. So this is similar to that. Um, I'm confident in telling the council here that the the scope and the price that is being presented to you is competitive. We put a lot of thought into it. Um, I only uh want the best people working for me from WSB for uh the city of North St. Paul because I've been working for you since 2009. I don't anticipate um wanting to give you a team of people that's not going to give you anything but the best. Candace Amberg, who's uh our landscape architect, has um worked with me on many, many, many projects over the years in many different cities. And she does have uh parks and wreck experience, smaller things. Uh she's worked on some things in Polar Park and Housy Park and some other parks um things uh like accessibility and, you know, playground improvements and things like that that have been important uh to the city of North St. Paul. So she is familiar with the staff kind of the general lay of the land in terms of uh city of North St. Paul's um uh expectations and um in addition to that you know I do have you know civil engineer folks on propo on the team for the in the proposal that actually have uh day in dayout experience as city engineers of record and uh working with public works director direct directors. So, I think that's going to be a key for success here or a success factor in delivering this project is being able to balance um the different recreational needs, amenity needs, and also some of what public works and electric is looking uh for in the same footprint, but having that make sense. >> Yeah. uh you know it needs to make sense to the users of that piece of property both from a uh operations and maintenance standpoint but also from a recreational standpoint as well too right and so and there's a way to make that work I'm confident that the people that are proposed as a part of the team and the scope that we've put together are going to be able to deliver that for you so I maybe I went on too long but hopefully that answered your question in terms of how this is coming to you it's very similar to street and utility project proposals that you've seen from me. This is not something that happens every day, but it's kind of in the same vein as that. But the city and city council always has the uh ability to, you know, go out for RFPs or do something more competitive or less. Um, and that's just s simply up to the city and the city manager. Um, in this situation, it seemed like it was a pretty easy scoping decision. We did our discussion. and we had at least two meetings if not three and some emails back and forth between Ken and his staff and uh folks on my staff. that's uh you know development of proposal time that's at no cost to the city right so we actually took some time to sit down and understand okay what are the needs what are the things that have come out with some of these things from a public works and electric standpoint what are some ideas what are some risk factors like Candace has enough experience to say hey asbestous and tennis courts is a thing and you don't want to be caught you know in the middle of the construction project not knowing how to deal with that so again I'm very confident we're giving you a solid proposal at a competitive price. >> Thank you. >> Thanks, Martin. >> Any other questions? >> All right, I'll go. Give me one second to get back up. I was looking at the pictures and I got to get back up to the top. So the motion is that uh >> authorize uh city manager to execute contract with WSB for the preliminary design development professional services dated June 10th 2026 >> with WSB for Mcnite Field and McNight Athletic Complex with a not to exceed amount of $129,000. >> All right. Can I have a motion on that, please? >> So moved. So moved. >> Second. Woods. All those in favor say I. >> I. Opposed. All right. Thank you. >> Thank you. Last item up is the 2026 crack ceiling project. Uh receive bids and award contract. WSB is here. And I think Tierney is going to put this forward to the council. >> Welcome. >> Good to see you again. >> Thank you, city manager, Mr. Mayor. Mr. Mayor, members of the council, I'm here to discuss the action item approve the resolution accepting quotes and awarding a construction contract for the 2026 cracking project. Crack ceilings, a type of regular pavement manage maintenance that is used to extend the lifespan of pavement. The proposed area, as you can see on the map, is for crack sealing was determined with the help of public works. The project area was then broken into three priorities based on inspections conducted by public works and the 2024 crack ceiling project. Based off this map, we received four quotes for this project on May 21st, 2026. The quotes we received range from 61,000 to roughly $13,000. The lowest quote we received was from Sealros. Sealos is a new contractor to the city of North St. Paul. So, we did reach out to three references from the city of Brooklyn Park, the city of Eden Prairie, and the city of Afton. All three cities were happy with the work they did and would work with the contractor again. Based on this information, the staff recommends that the city council accept bid bids and award by resolution a construction contract for the grand total quote in the amount of $60,116.78 to seal pros for the 2026 crack sealing project. I'm happy to answer any questions the council has about this project. >> When are they uh set to do it? Is it going to be quick? The earliest they could do it is end of June. >> End of June. Okay. Which is next week. >> Any other questions? >> Well, with the the lines drawn out here in the green, what are the blue lines for like Navocco east and west off of Helen to Hilltop? What are the yellow what are the blue lines representing then? >> Those are the third priorities. So, we broke it into properties just based on >> Okay. >> pre- bidding in case bids came in very high and then we could break it down from there. >> Okay. I can't tell the difference between the green and the orange. So, >> only suggestion I would have is use different colors, but that's just >> dyslexic and color blind. I won the lottery. >> Good to know for the future. >> Yes. All right. If any other questions, can I have a motion for the correct ceiling project for 2026? >> So moved. >> So moved. Council member McKenzie. >> Second. >> Second. Council member Norby. All those in favor say I. >> I. >> I. >> Thank you very much. >> Thank you, Ty. >> Thank you. >> You're getting the correct seal. That's right. There you go. >> All right. Moving on to uh manager and department reports. I'll start off with the departments. Uh departments been busy. They have the directional um drilling crew here that they've hired to install conduit up by Tower Park in that area and they're which will be looping some of the electric circuits up there which is really good for power outages being able to get people back on quicker. Um also they're doing a lot of pole installations or change outs um which they're nearly complete for the transfer for um ongoing for the fiber company that has asked them to do that. um their new employee started last week. He's doing well and fitting in, so that's great. Um communications, they had the uh time capsule event over the weekend was successful in a way, but uh unfortunately they had water inside of the canister, so they're trying to uh get what they can out of it for the presentation still. Um the event will be covered by or expected to be covered by Pioneer Press and WCCCO Channel 4. Um HR had uh no workplace injuries to report for last month. That's great. And uh the personnel policy is updated and complete and um the revisions and the policy will be distributed to staff soon. It was a long process. So we need everybody's help on that, especially you, Jack. Um finance all of the 27 department budgets have been submitted. Um capital improvement plans are due this Friday. So, I'll be meeting with the department heads and going over their budgets and the CIP requests here shortly. Um, PD, they are doing their sergeant interviews this week. Uh, finishing up this week. Um, police officer applications closed yesterday. They had 10 applicants um that they received. So, that's good. Um they do have the cameras lined up to be out for the fourth at Casey Lake and at Silver Lake again this year which is deter some of the issues that we've had in the past. Um and the staff continues to participate in the toward zero death outreach and education events. Um public health work's been busy with the student build house project continues with the trim work underway. HVAC um is operational. Trees have been removed from the site and a final grading is complete. Subcontractors remain active on the site and the final cabinet to be in installed this week. Um Casey Lake project is progressing well. The pond has been constructed, liners installed uh approximately halfway complete and uh final part pipe work is scheduled for this week and final completion is still looking for July 4th. Weather dependent of course. Uh street sweeping operations are nearly complete for their second city pass. Um and paving has begun on the 2026 road project with several sections already completed. And uh the recent storms, they seen some trees come down in the parks. Uh some on the streets, but mostly it was private trees that came down. Uh community development, the five candidates were interviewed for the internship position and one was selected and will begin next Monday. will be welcoming Julia Clinker to that position. Um, preliminary comprehensive plan information was submitted to WSB for cost estimation and review. And then I would like to end by saying I really appreciate your time here, Jack, and uh it's been good professional relationship. I hate to see you go, but uh best wishes and congrats to your new position. You'll be missed. >> Thank you very much. And I'll I'll miss all of you as well. Been really lovely working with all of you. >> Even me. >> Mostly. >> Mostly. >> There you go. Now you got it. All right. Thank you very much. All right. Reports, commissions. Uh we had our EDA last Tuesday the 9th and pleased to rem report that we have had four applicants for the facade program throughout our downtown. Uh we've had Gary Insurance put in a bid for some work in the front of his Rosback building and construction is doing his division the old shortstop we haven't got any totals for him but he's in the process and paperback books is going through the process and Dur doing a nice uh facade ed add edition and uh that was nice to see we had some good uh positive feedback from that group. So, >> thank you very much. >> Um, Arts and Culture Commission had our last meeting uh just after our last city council meeting on the 3rd and we talked about um went through budgets, got our budget set for that. um and reviewed some uh designs for upcoming utility boxes as well as I would like to point out that the utility box um we like to call it the heart hands one um is done and wrapped on the east side of Casey Lake Park now. So nice. >> If you get a chance, go out there and check it out. It looks awesome. >> Great. Thank you, Trey. >> The planning commission met on June 4th. Unfortunately, I was unable to attend. We voted on a some of the stuff that was discussed there. And the next planning commission meeting will be Thursday, July 2nd. >> Thank you very much. >> General business, anything? >> Uh, I was at the uh raising of the the uh capsule the other morning and it was a little disappointment to see the water draining out the bottom. >> That's too bad. But they solved a bit. I think they're going to be able to solve a bunch of it, but some of it was pitched. So, but it was really nice to see and kind of fun to watch it come up out of the ground. >> Nice. Great. Anything? >> I've got nothing. >> Okay. No, >> I didn't make it to last week's car show. My wife and I were gone for the weekend, but I was at the first one. And so, it's nice to see. And I know you mentioned you were at the the second one. So I know during our EDA when I was there too, the businesses uh really appreciate having both of them because I mean that was a big deal for our businesses. So you know it uh >> it's good. It's going to take time for the for the new one and of course the the ones that have been around forever. So it's it's a good mix and um the business really appreciate it. So it was a it's a good deal. If nothing else, we not going to close. We have to do a closed door session. Before we do that, uh the meeting will be closed under Minnesota stat 13.05 sub C3C to consider an offer regarding the sale of the property located at 2300 North St. Paul Drive. So we'll go into closed doors and then turn the meeting from there. So no gavvels, no nothing. Thanks every