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Wheelock-Grotto Phase 2 Reconstruction
Saint Paul Public SchoolsTuesday, October 21, 2025
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[0:12] Hello, my name is Barb Mundle. I'm a
[0:14] civil engineer with the city of St. Paul
[0:16] public works department. Today we're
[0:19] going to talk about a will
[0:22] reconstruction phase two. Um we'll cover
[0:26] scope and scheduling, design,
[0:28] construction assessments, and finish up
[0:31] with contact information.
[0:33] So the scope and schedule um so as as
[0:37] you know uh phase one of the will
[0:40] reconstruction project has is well
[0:42] underway. Um that's the area shown in
[0:45] blue here. Um
[0:49] the areas shown in gold and green are
[0:53] for the phase 2
[0:56] um
[0:57] reconstruction project and that will be
[0:59] in the summer of 2026.
[1:02] Um here's a map showing just phase two.
[1:06] Um the solid lines are reconstruction
[1:09] total reconstruction. The dashed lines
[1:13] are streets that have been reconstructed
[1:15] in the past and will be milled and
[1:17] overlaid as part of this project.
[1:21] Um, some schedule information. Uh, last
[1:25] June in 2024, we did send out a a notice
[1:29] to the neighborhood saying, "Hey, this
[1:31] is coming." Um, the virt this virtual
[1:35] presentation will be posted on the
[1:37] website on October 1st. We'll have an
[1:40] in-person open house on October 23rd and
[1:43] that will be at the Northdale Recreation
[1:45] Center. Um
[1:48] after that October 23rd meeting, we'll
[1:52] have a virtual office hours on November
[1:55] 6 after everyone's had a chance to view
[1:58] either one of the presentations. And
[2:00] that openhouse will be to answer any
[2:02] additional questions.
[2:04] There is a public hearing scheduled at
[2:06] in front of the city council on December
[2:09] 10th. Um another opportunity to um
[2:14] express uh
[2:18] opinions um before the city council. And
[2:21] this this is not design details. This is
[2:25] just um approving the funding so the
[2:28] project can go forward. Um I I am happy
[2:31] to meet with individual property owners
[2:33] by appointment and that can be ongoing
[2:36] throughout the winter and spring. Um you
[2:39] know just give me a call and with your
[2:41] questions. Um we we do plan to open bids
[2:45] um February of 2026
[2:48] and then lead water service replacement
[2:51] by the St.
[2:52] Regional water services should begin in
[2:55] early spring around April and then the
[2:58] street reconstruction will follow that
[3:00] those lead service replacements and that
[3:04] will be around May. Of course, all of
[3:06] this
[3:07] this part is um weather dependent.
[3:12] Um
[3:14] the average street on the this Wheelock
[3:16] Gretto area varies between 28 ft wide to
[3:20] 32 feet wide in 60 ft right ofways. Uh
[3:25] most streets have sidewalks on both
[3:27] sides.
[3:28] The new roadway will essentially be the
[3:30] same width as the existing widths. Um
[3:34] the caveat to that is sometimes
[3:36] boulevards without curbs tend to erode
[3:39] and makes the street appear much wider.
[3:42] But we will um put the street back as
[3:47] it's um as it's platted.
[3:51] Um East Ko Boulevard is an exception
[3:53] that varies between 24 ft wide and 28 ft
[3:56] wide. Does have a sidewalk on the east
[3:59] side. Um we're still looking at the
[4:03] appropriate width. It won't be narrower
[4:05] than 24 and it won't be wider than 28.
[4:08] Um and we will be replacing that
[4:10] sidewalk on the east side.
[4:13] Um some of the existing conditions
[4:18] out there um there's a lot of retaining
[4:20] walls that um are in various various
[4:24] conditions. Um most of them are on
[4:27] private property and we will not be
[4:29] touching your retaining wall. Um there's
[4:33] a few that that maybe are over into the
[4:37] right of way. Again, we will try not to
[4:39] touch those. Um but we will ask the city
[4:42] will ask you to um take out a no fee
[4:45] encroachment permit to document that the
[4:48] wall is on city rightway.
[4:53] Um there's a lot of of um carriage walks
[4:59] out in this neighborhood that those are
[5:01] the sidewalks, the little sidewalks that
[5:04] run parallel to the roadway. Um those
[5:07] will be taken out when we install curb
[5:09] and the city does not res replace those.
[5:13] Um the outwalks are the walks that go
[5:17] perpendicular to the roadway and some of
[5:21] them have steps. We will try to regrade
[5:24] the street so that um those steps are
[5:27] not necessary. Um that's something we're
[5:29] still working on. Um but we will try and
[5:33] eliminate this the need for boulevard
[5:35] steps where possible. Um some improve uh
[5:41] proposed improvements will be new curbon
[5:44] gutter, new roadway pavement, lot of
[5:47] utility upgrades, um sidewalk
[5:50] replacement, and then some new sidewalks
[5:52] where none exist, uh ADA compliant ped
[5:56] ramps, uh lantern style street lighting
[5:59] and tree planting at the end.
[6:03] Uh the city, the St. Paul City Council
[6:06] did pass a sidewalk policy back in 2017
[6:10] recommending sidewalks on both sides of
[6:12] an improved street. Um we are there's
[6:16] only a couple of blocks that don't have
[6:18] sidewalk and we are still looking at
[6:21] survey data to um assess the feasibility
[6:25] of putting sidewalks on both sides.
[6:28] Um if we do put sidewalks in, we will
[6:30] try to locate them as recommended by St.
[6:33] forestry to minimize impact to trees.
[6:39] Some other improvements is um bicycle
[6:42] boulevard striping or
[6:46] markers I should say um on East Ko
[6:49] Boulevard. Yeah, this this is not like
[6:52] bike lanes. It's it's simply um the bike
[6:56] boulevard symbols on the pavement
[6:58] reminding people to share the road um
[7:02] for this connection that goes from
[7:04] Milton to the the trail on East
[7:08] Ko Lake Drive.
[7:13] Um, we are proposing a slight change to
[7:16] the median on East Como Boulevard at the
[7:20] intersection of Lake View and that is to
[7:23] try and um increase make a safer
[7:26] crossing for bicycles and pedestrians to
[7:29] get again onto that trail.
[7:35] Um we will be replacing curb and gutter
[7:39] or or installing curbon gutter and um
[7:44] replacing all of the drainage structures
[7:46] along with that.
[7:50] Uh we will be replacing the the street
[7:53] pavement
[7:56] uh again of replacing the ad the
[7:59] pedestrian ramps with ADA compliant
[8:02] pedestrian ramps.
[8:04] Um we will be replacing driveway aprons
[8:08] with concrete and that is regardless
[8:10] whether you have a gravel
[8:13] um
[8:15] uh driveway apron or whether it's brick
[8:17] or some other special material. Um all
[8:20] of them will be replaced with a concrete
[8:22] driveway.
[8:25] Uh we will be replacing the wood pole
[8:28] street lighting with the lantern style
[8:30] street lighting. Um
[8:33] we do they we will be taking measures to
[8:36] deter wire theft from this um from new
[8:40] street lights.
[8:43] Um trees. There's a lot of mature trees
[8:46] that are um in the neighborhood. Some of
[8:48] them are pretty close to where the new
[8:51] curb is going to be. Um, we will have
[8:54] St. Paul Forestry assess the impacts of
[8:57] new curb on these trees. Um,
[9:02] there's also a lot of other other
[9:05] potential impacts to trees. There's, you
[9:08] know, if you opt to have your sewer
[9:09] service replaced or lead water service
[9:12] replacement or other utility conflicts
[9:15] could impact trees. Um there's the
[9:18] overall tree health that um is taken
[9:20] into account and then um proximity to
[9:25] curb or other concrete hard surfaces.
[9:31] A lot of the trees that we took down on
[9:34] phase one were rotting and decaying on
[9:37] the inside. They looked fine on the
[9:38] outside, but they were hollow on the
[9:41] inside. Um so again we work very closely
[9:45] with um forestry to um assess tree
[9:49] health and determine which trees need to
[9:52] be taken down and which ones can um
[9:54] survive construction.
[9:57] At the end of the project we um we will
[9:59] be replacing trees and planting new
[10:02] trees. Um here's an example of the
[10:05] pallet of species that the city plants.
[10:09] um these these species they they try and
[10:12] not have a monoculture so they they they
[10:16] vary the trees with even within a block
[10:19] and tree species selection will be
[10:22] determined by St. Paul parks and
[10:24] forestry.
[10:28] Uh one of the other um amenities uh that
[10:31] the project can provide is the city of
[10:34] St. Hall is uh partnering with Capitol
[10:37] Region Watershed District to um offer an
[10:40] opportunity for residents to have
[10:42] Boulevard rain gardens. Um
[10:47] these are the the gardens. They take
[10:49] storm water runoff um and filter it
[10:52] through a garden in the boulevard um
[10:55] before it is before any of that water is
[10:59] um dumped back into Ko Lake. Um
[11:02] so for more information about um
[11:07] Boulevard rain gardens you can contact
[11:09] uh Chris Kuzzek at Capital Region
[11:11] Watershed District and um he can assess
[11:15] the feasibility of a rain garden at your
[11:18] property.
[11:20] All right, we've talked a lot about
[11:22] surface amenities and that's really just
[11:25] the tip of the iceberg. Um there will be
[11:28] a lot of utility improvements with this
[11:30] project. Um not only is the the the city
[11:35] utilities but the private utilities
[11:37] often take this opportunity to upgrade
[11:39] their facilities. Um a lot of like Excel
[11:44] communications, Excel gas and other you
[11:46] know Comcast, Century Link, other
[11:49] communication companies will also um
[11:52] upgrade their their facilities with
[11:54] these projects.
[11:56] Um and then of course St. Paul Regional
[12:00] Water Service and St. Paul Sewers will
[12:02] also be upgrading their facilities.
[12:06] Um so with this project we'll be
[12:09] replacing water man. Um it's usually
[12:12] about 8 to 10 ft deep. So there'll be
[12:15] some pretty deep holes out there. The
[12:18] the water man is replaced by our our
[12:21] paving contractor under the supervision
[12:23] of St. Paul regional water. Um and then
[12:27] there's even after the water man is
[12:29] installed, there are lots of tests that
[12:32] um have to happen before that that water
[12:36] main is put into service.
[12:41] Um so in the meantime um the city or St.
[12:46] Paul Regional Water will um
[12:49] be providing temp temporary water means.
[12:52] Um these are the yellow pipes that you
[12:54] see on the sidewalk and those will be
[12:57] installed and then fully bacterial
[12:59] tested before they hook them up. Um so
[13:03] the water department will need to access
[13:06] your home to hook up to the temporary
[13:09] water mains. um
[13:13] that and that will happen, you know,
[13:15] prior to the project. Um they want to
[13:18] note that that sometimes and if it's
[13:21] really hot out that that the water from
[13:23] the temporary mains might be warm. Um
[13:26] just run it and it'll cool down pretty
[13:29] rapidly. Um, and then the other thing to
[13:32] note is that there you will not be
[13:35] metered for water during during
[13:37] construction when you're connected to
[13:39] temporary water.
[13:43] Um, and then here's just how they back
[13:45] feed the the temporary water into the
[13:49] into your home. They'll use a um a Y
[13:52] installed where your garden hose is
[13:55] connected. Um again they will need to
[13:59] get into your house. So they will um
[14:04] they will notify you and make
[14:07] arrangements
[14:10] prior to connecting. Obviously, um
[14:15] they they um will after after the new
[14:19] water man is installed, they'll
[14:21] reconnect to the main once that's been
[14:24] fully tested and deemed safe. Um
[14:27] they will um
[14:31] Oh, sorry. Um most most existing copper
[14:35] services are reconnected with with only
[14:38] excavation at the water main but that if
[14:40] they're lead services they'll be
[14:42] replaced with copper and and that is at
[14:45] no cost to the property owner. Um St.
[14:48] Paul Regional Water will will cover that
[14:50] cost. And then just um there is a
[14:56] also a program lead free uh for um lead
[15:01] services in private property to be
[15:04] replaced by St. Paul Regional Water at
[15:06] no cost to the homeowner.
[15:08] And for more information about uh water
[15:12] services or water manes, you can contact
[15:16] Bokeenya Chun. Um she is an engineer
[15:19] with St. Paul Regional Water Service.
[15:24] And also as part of this project, there
[15:26] will be a lot of sewer work. Um we will
[15:28] be replacing some storm sewer means and
[15:32] some uh sanitary means. Um we we are
[15:37] also providing an opportunity for
[15:40] homeowners to replace their sewer
[15:43] service
[15:44] um from the from the main to the
[15:48] property line. So to back up a little
[15:51] bit um the sewer services
[15:55] are fully owned by the property owner.
[15:59] Um but there there are two sections.
[16:02] There is a section in the public right
[16:04] ofway and that's the one shown here in
[16:06] red and that is the one that um can be
[16:10] replaced as part of this project. There
[16:12] is an additional assessment
[16:15] um for that work and then there is also
[16:19] the private side between the property
[16:21] line and the home and that work would
[16:25] need to be done by a private contractor
[16:27] that would be hired by the property
[16:29] owner.
[16:31] Um, again, just another visual of
[16:36] uh your your um private sanitary sewer
[16:40] service.
[16:41] Um if you're experiencing any of these
[16:45] symptoms
[16:46] um for your from your water service like
[16:49] they slow drains, sewer or odors,
[16:54] um you know, sink holes,
[16:57] it could be time to replace your water
[16:59] service or I'm sorry, sewer service. Um
[17:03] some common problems that we see is tree
[17:06] intrusion into the sewer service. And
[17:09] then another common problem is that the
[17:12] connection between the sewer main and
[17:14] the sewer service can sometimes drop and
[17:18] and those are also um good reasons to
[17:22] replace your sewer service as part of
[17:23] the project. Um
[17:26] some some benefits of of doing that
[17:30] during construction is that um you don't
[17:34] have to pay for the street
[17:35] reconstruction
[17:37] uh or the street restoration. Um and
[17:40] it's at a fixed rate and you can um when
[17:43] it's an assessment like that, you can
[17:45] pay it over 20 years.
[17:48] And here's some typical costs. Usually
[17:51] during construction, the cost because
[17:54] it's at a fixed rate is approximately
[17:55] around $3,500.
[17:58] But if you wait until after construction
[18:00] with including the restoration costs, it
[18:02] can be um up to 5,000 or more.
[18:09] All right. Um Oh, and just to back up on
[18:12] on sewer service replacement, the sewer
[18:15] department will be sending out waiver
[18:18] forms this winter. um with more
[18:21] explanation and more information about
[18:23] your individual sewer service and um
[18:27] just explaining
[18:29] that process a little bit more and then
[18:31] the sewer waiver would be sent back to
[18:35] them and then we can put it on the plans
[18:38] for reconstruction.
[18:40] Um what's it like to live through a
[18:42] construction project? Well, many of you
[18:44] are experiencing adjacently that right
[18:48] now. Um, as you know, it's noisy and and
[18:52] inconvenient.
[18:54] It's either dusty or muddy. Um,
[18:57] we uh we do have specifications
[19:01] stating that the contractor needs to um
[19:04] wet the surface to try and control dust
[19:07] um mud and sweep up mud as as they can.
[19:12] Um but it it's a constant battle.
[19:17] Um,
[19:18] some other things to know, your street
[19:20] will be dug up numerous times and that
[19:24] is because there are different
[19:27] contractors doing different types of
[19:29] work that you know a private utility
[19:32] might dig up your street uh to replace
[19:35] the communication line and then you know
[19:38] two weeks later somebody else is going
[19:39] to dig it up to replace your sewer
[19:41] service or you know lead water service.
[19:44] um that there is a method to the madness
[19:47] that um but it does happen um that that
[19:52] there will be multiple excavations on
[19:55] the same street
[19:57] sequentially. Um
[20:00] plan on four to five months of
[20:02] disruption for the entire project. That
[20:04] doesn't mean four or five months in
[20:05] front of your property. It just means
[20:07] four or five months for the whole entire
[20:09] area. Um they they are required to
[20:13] maintain vehicle access to businesses
[20:16] and emergency vehicles at all times.
[20:21] Um all of the construction is done by
[20:23] private companies. We we um bid them
[20:27] out. Um they're all licensed and bonded,
[20:30] but it does go to the lowest bidder. Um,
[20:33] a lot of road work is weather dependent
[20:36] and um, rain will delay the work and if
[20:39] we get a lot of rain, they may wait a
[20:41] day to let things dry out before they
[20:43] get back on site. Uh, contractors work
[20:48] 5 to 6 days a week, 7:00 a.m. to 7:00
[20:51] p.m. And the city of St. Paul will have
[20:54] an on-site inspector
[20:57] um,
[20:58] to inspect the contractor's work.
[21:02] There's two types of road closed signs
[21:05] that you will see out there once
[21:06] construction begins. A road closed to
[21:09] through traffic means you can go around
[21:11] those signs, but you're not going to get
[21:14] through to the end of that street. It'll
[21:17] maybe be too mid block. Um, and then
[21:21] there's the road closed signs. Those
[21:24] mean do not enter. Like it's not safe.
[21:27] There's probably a big 20 foot deep hole
[21:31] beyond that road close sign. So go you
[21:35] can go around these but not these.
[21:40] um you will receive well multiple
[21:43] letters from me um
[21:46] you know during the design process and
[21:48] then you'll get a letter prior to the
[21:50] start of construction and on that it's
[21:53] nice to keep that one um because
[21:55] there'll be the names of our inspectors
[21:58] who are your your first call and then um
[22:02] you know the the the contractors and
[22:06] other contact information that that is
[22:08] handy to have
[22:10] Um we will they will flyer the
[22:13] neighborhood a week before construction
[22:15] starts on your particular block. Um they
[22:18] do hang those flyers on the front door.
[22:21] Um and again as I mentioned earlier that
[22:24] a project assigned project inspector
[22:27] will would be your first call because
[22:29] he's the one that's on site and knows
[22:32] schedule to the minute. And then of
[22:34] course we will have weekly updates
[22:36] posted on the city's website.
[22:42] See, and there's some here's just some
[22:45] milestones of the construction project.
[22:48] Um you'll you'll see the first thing
[22:51] you'll see is of course is those deep
[22:52] holes for the utility cuts. And then but
[22:55] once you see grading happening, next
[22:58] thing will be curb and there there are a
[23:02] few steps between curb and paving um
[23:04] namely sidewalks and driveways um street
[23:08] lighting um foundations. But just to
[23:12] give you an idea of um
[23:14] of the process
[23:16] and then of course what is it going to
[23:19] cost? um assessment rates have not been
[23:23] um determined yet. Um there will be a an
[23:26] independent appraiser that will be
[23:28] coming out looking at properties. Um I
[23:33] there there is a separate assessment
[23:37] um
[23:39] um video that that you I invite you to
[23:42] watch to explain more about assessments.
[23:45] Um, and then of course you can view in
[23:48] more information at st
[23:50] paul.govassessments.
[23:54] And then here are a couple of um contact
[23:59] um information. Again, I'm Barb M B M B
[24:01] M B M B M B M B M B M B M B M Bundle.
[24:01] You can reach me at 651-266112.
[24:05] And then there um if you have questions
[24:08] about other aspects of the project um
[24:11] here are the general lines. And thank
[24:14] you so much for listening and I look
[24:17] forward to working with you. Thank you.