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ONS Podcast - Episode 27 - SHINE
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[0:00] Welcome to the ONS podcast with your
[0:03] host Lana Jacobson.
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[0:13] stands for Office of Neighborhood
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[0:17] and I'm part of the ONS team. This
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[0:24] measures, programs, and your local
[0:26] growth and healing opportunities.
[0:29] ONS audience. Today we have Sisters
[0:32] Helping in Neighborhoods Everywhere,
[0:34] better known as Shine. Shine is an
[0:37] organization created to help uplift
[0:39] young women, nurturing them to grow into
[0:41] healthy and successful individuals. They
[0:44] are on a mission to empower and uplift
[0:47] young girls to their highest potential.
[0:50] Welcome. Today we have founder and
[0:53] executive director Tiara House. Hi
[0:55] Tiara.
[0:55] >> Hi. Tiara, can you take 30 seconds and
[0:58] tell us about yourself?
[1:00] >> All right, I'm gonna be 30 seconds
[1:01] quick. Okay. Um, my name is Tiara House.
[1:04] Um, I was originally born in Chicago.
[1:07] Um, I have been in Minnesota St. Paul
[1:10] area since 1997. I graduated from
[1:13] Arlington High School, which is now
[1:14] known as Washington Tech. Woohoo. Class
[1:17] of 2008. I come from a family of five um
[1:21] with my mom and my dad growing up. I am
[1:23] the middle child which I am also the
[1:25] manager of the family. Um I am
[1:29] graduating this May with my master's in
[1:31] educational leadership. I have
[1:35] >> Thank you. I have been in education for
[1:37] the last 10 years. My hopes is to go
[1:41] back and finish off for my principal
[1:43] license. I have one son um who is very
[1:46] busy. Um he's four years old and
[1:49] something really inspiring to me is that
[1:52] um I named him after Tupac and Nipy.
[1:55] >> Okay. What is his name?
[1:56] >> Air Shakira.
[1:57] >> Oh, okay.
[1:58] >> Yeah.
[1:58] >> Okay.
[1:59] >> Yes. And I love to travel so I do travel
[2:02] agent on the side. And of course I am
[2:05] the founder and executive director of
[2:07] Shine Girls Group.
[2:08] >> Congratulations and welcome tiara.
[2:10] >> Thank you.
[2:11] >> So I got some iceberg questions for you.
[2:14] >> Okay.
[2:14] >> You have to pick one or the other. You
[2:15] have to answer. I got to answer. Okay.
[2:17] >> Okay. College sports or professional
[2:20] league? Which do you prefer?
[2:22] >> Professional league to watch.
[2:24] >> Okay. Yeah. Baked mac and cheese or real
[2:28] creamy, please?
[2:29] >> Oh, baked mac and cheese.
[2:31] >> Okay. Do you like the little crispy how
[2:32] it gets a little on the top?
[2:33] >> It It got to have that little
[2:35] >> That's our favorite part, too. We be
[2:36] fighting over that in the house. Okay.
[2:38] So, you're on Price is Right. You win a
[2:41] chance to choose between a new car or a
[2:43] vacation. Which one are you choosing?
[2:46] >> Depending on where I'm going for the
[2:48] vacation.
[2:49] >> Where do you want to go?
[2:50] >> I want to go back to Africa.
[2:51] >> Okay.
[2:52] >> So, I'll probably choose
[2:53] >> Choose vacation to Africa.
[2:54] >> Yeah. If I could do like a six-mon
[2:56] vacation.
[2:57] >> Do you do the safari stuff?
[2:59] >> Yes, I did.
[3:00] >> You did?
[3:01] >> Uh-huh. And it was not as scary as I
[3:03] thought it would be.
[3:03] >> I was Yeah, cuz my husband was talking
[3:05] about going and I'm like, "No, we're not
[3:07] going to have the animals coming up to
[3:08] the van." No, they were actually like in
[3:12] their natural state doing what they
[3:13] needed to do.
[3:14] >> Yeah.
[3:14] >> Like they were eating each other.
[3:17] >> They were making babies though. They
[3:19] were really doing what they need to do.
[3:20] So,
[3:20] >> well, and I suppose people are always
[3:22] coming through so they're not they're
[3:24] just they're accustomed to it.
[3:26] >> To have a a lion that close. Now that I
[3:29] think about it, I'm like, "Girl, you is
[3:31] crazy." Like, you were just sitting
[3:33] right there taking pictures.
[3:35] >> Mm- And the smells. I don't know about
[3:37] the smells. No, it wasn't bad.
[3:39] >> It wasn't.
[3:39] >> It's not like a zoo.
[3:41] >> Okay. Okay.
[3:42] >> Try it. It wasn't bad. It wasn't bad.
[3:44] >> I'm a little scared, but we'll see.
[3:46] Okay. So, let's jump into these
[3:48] questions. Tiara, what is Shine?
[3:50] >> Um, Shine stands for, as you said,
[3:52] sisters helping in neighborhoods
[3:54] everywhere. We are a girls group. I like
[3:57] to say we are like a black girl scouts.
[3:59] Um, cuz our primarily target is black
[4:02] and brown girls. We all about building
[4:04] that sisterhood, that unity, uplifting
[4:06] our girls and really having them being
[4:08] able to unite with each other because as
[4:10] we know we are more powerful together
[4:13] than we are apart.
[4:14] >> Amen. Iron sharp sharpens iron. Where
[4:17] are you centrally located?
[4:19] >> We do group um every other Tuesdays in
[4:22] St. Paul.
[4:23] >> Um we rent out a space um where we
[4:25] facilitate group at. I work at American
[4:28] Indian Magnet School in St. Paul. So by
[4:31] default I am doing shine there.
[4:33] >> Okay.
[4:34] >> On top of my um job as a intervention
[4:37] specialist which we all also do it on
[4:39] Tuesdays.
[4:40] >> That's beautiful. So it's like after
[4:41] school.
[4:42] >> No, it's during school.
[4:43] >> Oh, it's during school.
[4:44] >> So we use um SEAL um learning. So we do
[4:47] social emotional learning. That's kind
[4:48] of like our curriculum with Shine. Okay.
[4:50] So we tie that into our students are
[4:52] their foundations
[4:55] um for our middle school and then we do
[4:56] a fourth and fifth grade um during the
[4:59] morning time but then we do things to
[5:01] tie them in together to create different
[5:04] performances. These girls love to
[5:05] perform.
[5:06] >> I love it.
[5:07] >> They I bet they do. How did you get
[5:10] started?
[5:11] >> Um how did I get started? So, um, in
[5:14] 2015,
[5:17] 16 me, one of my very good friends, my
[5:20] best friends, we were talking about just
[5:22] kind of having like a women's group
[5:23] where we kind of get up, do a little
[5:24] happy hour, um, rent out library spaces
[5:28] and just talk about the things that we
[5:30] are going through, whether it's mothers,
[5:31] motherhood, whether it's job related,
[5:34] friendships, just to kind of build like
[5:37] a small circle of us. Once we started
[5:39] doing that, we would meet monthly. those
[5:42] was going really well. Um, of course,
[5:44] like I said, I've been working in
[5:45] education for the last 10 years. Fast
[5:47] forward, I ended up going to Tartan High
[5:50] School in
[5:50] >> Oakdale,
[5:52] >> and the principal came up to me, this
[5:54] was 2019, and was like, all of the girls
[5:56] are like clinging to you and we have
[5:58] about eight students that we meet with
[6:00] with the counselors and the social
[6:02] workers like, would you mind doing a
[6:03] group with them? And I'm like, I do I
[6:06] got shine like we can implement this in.
[6:08] So that's kind of that was our first
[6:10] group with the youth at Tartan High
[6:12] School after school. We started with
[6:14] about eight girls
[6:16] >> and by the end of the school year we had
[6:19] about 50 something girls participating.
[6:20] >> Oh my gosh, I love it.
[6:21] >> And then we end up doing it every year
[6:23] after that when I was there.
[6:24] >> I love it. So that leads me to my next
[6:27] my next question. What problematic need
[6:30] are you fixing here? really as I know
[6:34] from being a black girl
[6:36] >> and a person of color as a woman of
[6:38] color now the biggest thing that we are
[6:41] trying to fix within the girls is really
[6:43] building their self-esteem helping them
[6:46] figuring out how to communicate how to
[6:48] maneuver through life how to maneuver
[6:51] through those obstacles and then at the
[6:52] same time building that community around
[6:54] you cuz we know and what I have learned
[6:56] as well is that we cannot do it alone
[7:00] >> like there's no way that you can be
[7:02] successful without getting to know
[7:04] people, without building relationships,
[7:06] healthy relationships with people. So,
[7:08] especially with your other sisters, with
[7:10] people that look like you and
[7:12] >> other women. Um so those are the the
[7:14] really core concept of the things that
[7:18] we are trying to teach the girls
[7:19] starting within fixing you trying to get
[7:23] the skills that you need to build your
[7:24] self-esteem and make you self-aware and
[7:26] then making sure that you building a
[7:28] community around yourself taking care of
[7:30] your community and then that last leg is
[7:32] that higher education when I say higher
[7:35] education what is the next step after
[7:38] you're done with school maybe it's
[7:40] college maybe it's not but what is that
[7:42] next those next goals for your life.
[7:45] >> I like that because I feel like the
[7:48] generation that you're working with now,
[7:51] you're setting the tone for how they
[7:53] should be as an adult, right? And I feel
[7:55] like as women amongst us, there's so
[7:58] much drama and petty stuff. And you're
[8:00] raising these girls, well, you're
[8:02] helping raise these girls to be in unit
[8:05] in in unison with each other, right? to
[8:08] like uplift each other and to cheer each
[8:10] other on and to push each other forward.
[8:12] And that's what we should have as women
[8:14] because it's stressful enough out here.
[8:16] So, I commend you on that because you're
[8:19] you're you're changing
[8:21] >> you're changing what we are.
[8:23] >> Yeah.
[8:23] >> Does that make sense?
[8:24] >> Or what people think we are cuz we
[8:25] really are. We really
[8:27] >> once we come together we are so powerful
[8:31] than being apart.
[8:34] And once we figure out that it's so much
[8:37] that we have in common, that's a lot of
[8:40] what the girls are learning. Like, you
[8:42] know what? And I wanted to I want Shine
[8:44] to be something so big that you can go
[8:46] to any city
[8:47] >> once you get older. You move and you go
[8:49] to any city and you can see your other
[8:50] sister. Like, okay, that's my sister.
[8:52] That's my Shine sister. I can lean on
[8:54] her. I can call, you know, I can create
[8:56] a network of people to be able to call
[8:58] if I have questions or if I need things.
[9:00] And then creating that safe space for
[9:02] them. So when we are in group we are
[9:04] able to really be vulnerable with each
[9:07] other
[9:08] >> and as facilitators that's what we try
[9:10] to start with we try to be vulnerable so
[9:13] that they can open up and they can be
[9:15] vulnerable as well because that's the
[9:16] biggest thing you know we got social
[9:17] media like
[9:19] >> you know once we get in you know once
[9:21] they get into it we have an argument
[9:22] then now the whole social media knows
[9:24] you know
[9:25] >> and how do you remain with integrity how
[9:29] do you do the right thing when no one's
[9:30] looking. Yeah, I love it. Tell us what
[9:34] makes our young women in St. Paul so
[9:36] special.
[9:37] >> Cuz I'm from here, St. Paul.
[9:40] >> Besides that,
[9:41] >> Yeah.
[9:43] >> I say what makes um St. Paul so special
[9:45] to me because I have, like I said, I'm
[9:47] originally from Chicago. We came up here
[9:49] when I was about 7 years old. So, I know
[9:52] more about Minnesota, more about St.
[9:54] Paul. And we always only lived in St.
[9:56] Paul. I'm not going to lie, being
[9:58] younger, I had uh some rough patches.
[10:01] >> Yeah.
[10:01] >> Um some bumps in the road. And I think
[10:04] now as being an educator and being the
[10:07] executive director of Shine, I'm able to
[10:09] give back to the community that I
[10:11] >> kind of disrupted a little, you know,
[10:13] okay,
[10:13] >> kind of caused some disruption. So
[10:15] that's why St. Paul is so special to me
[10:18] because I have went to school here. I
[10:20] have worked here. I have built
[10:21] relationships within this city. And I
[10:24] also have did some things to harm this
[10:26] city. Mh.
[10:26] >> So this is kind of like my
[10:29] >> um
[10:29] >> your giving back.
[10:30] >> My giving back. My giving back. Like
[10:32] this is this is me saying, "Yep, you
[10:34] know what? We did I did this. I did
[10:36] that. But now we can repair that harm
[10:39] and we can be restorative with it."
[10:40] >> I love that. I got goosebumps.
[10:43] I love that. Where did your passion for
[10:46] this work come from? And when did you
[10:47] realize there was a need for this? And I
[10:49] kind of feel like you already answered
[10:51] this, but I want you to go more in
[10:52] depth.
[10:52] >> Yeah. um my passion because I I grew up
[10:55] with just my you know my sister. It was
[10:57] me and my sister. I had a lot of female
[11:00] friends. I had a lot of you know
[11:02] girlfriends going in once I was in
[11:04] school and high school and middle
[11:05] school. I ran with a crowd of girls
[11:09] >> and it was always drama.
[11:11] >> Mhm.
[11:12] >> And I had to learn for myself that I had
[11:15] that drama enticed me and it was
[11:18] exciting to me because I didn't know who
[11:20] I was.
[11:20] >> I was struggling with my own identity.
[11:22] Yeah.
[11:23] >> So what you got within comes out. And I
[11:26] know that I have possibly caused harm to
[11:29] a lot of different girls being so young,
[11:32] you know, not really understanding what
[11:35] I have inflicted in a negative way. So
[11:38] my passion has came from how do I
[11:40] reverse that in a positive way? How do I
[11:43] help girls? Like my mom always told me
[11:45] like you don't need to be doing this,
[11:46] you don't need to be doing that. But it
[11:48] sounds different from when your mom
[11:49] telling you than when your peers is
[11:51] telling you like, "No, we should be
[11:53] doing this. We," you know.
[11:54] >> So my thing is I want the girls to
[11:57] really understand how healthy and
[12:00] positive relationships with your peers
[12:03] >> because I really didn't have like I had
[12:04] a lot of friends. Everybody wanted to be
[12:06] my friends, but they weren't healthy
[12:07] friendships.
[12:08] >> Mhm.
[12:08] >> We were doing negative things, you know.
[12:10] >> They were probably scared of you, too.
[12:12] >> Yeah, they was. Yeah, they probably was.
[12:13] They probably was. And I was doing too
[12:16] much. But I was always smart. I was
[12:18] always smart though. So when I
[12:21] graduated, they like they see me like
[12:22] you graduated. So I see teachers now
[12:24] like
[12:25] >> Yeah.
[12:26] >> Okay. Like
[12:27] >> do you ever see any of like people that
[12:30] you used to run with? Well, I mean cuz
[12:31] you know St. Paul's so small
[12:33] >> or the people that you used to pick on
[12:35] or like do you had some people that you
[12:38] know have forgave me and I have some
[12:39] people that probably still don't like me
[12:41] like no you made my childhood horrible.
[12:43] But then I also have some really good
[12:45] friends that's been with me since day
[12:47] one
[12:48] >> and always have encouraged me to do the
[12:50] right thing, you know. And I see
[12:53] teachers now. Shout out to Dr. Jones.
[12:56] She's from St. Paul um public school.
[12:58] She was my only black teacher. She was
[12:59] my second grade teacher and I just seen
[13:01] her again last week.
[13:03] >> A
[13:03] >> um at the school. So now
[13:05] >> she's still there.
[13:06] >> Yesord. She well she's a principal on
[13:09] assignment she said. So she um with the
[13:11] district.
[13:12] >> Okay. So, it's just amazing to see my
[13:15] old um teachers and the adults that see
[13:18] me and not not see me necessar I want to
[13:21] say in a bad light but just kind of see
[13:22] me grow up to be the person that I am
[13:24] today.
[13:25] >> And then a lot of my old principles like
[13:27] could you come work at my school?
[13:29] >> So, it just make you feel good like
[13:30] Yeah. Cuz I know you know. Yeah.
[13:31] >> Yeah. Well, and I think too people can
[13:35] relate, you know what I mean? Mhm.
[13:37] >> Going back to like the girls following
[13:39] you around and wanting wanting to be in
[13:41] your group and different things like
[13:42] that,
[13:43] >> you can relate to some of them and the
[13:46] direction you want to push them because
[13:48] you know what their potential is.
[13:50] >> And I think that's what makes you so
[13:52] special for what you're doing.
[13:53] >> Yes.
[13:54] >> That's the biggest part I always tell
[13:56] the girls like
[13:58] >> when I say things to you and I'm saying
[14:00] it, it's not from like cuz I got these
[14:02] degrees or I got it out the book. Like,
[14:04] no, I have went through real life
[14:06] experience.
[14:07] >> Mhm.
[14:07] >> I've been there, done that.
[14:09] >> Yeah.
[14:09] >> Everything that you guys are doing and
[14:11] going through, the only thing is that we
[14:12] didn't have social media like that,
[14:13] >> right?
[14:14] >> You know,
[14:15] >> so and it's hard for our kids nowadays
[14:18] with social media cuz you go on there
[14:20] and you see even as adults, you go on
[14:22] there, you see like, oh, this person
[14:23] doing this, this person doing that, and
[14:25] you know, you you want to see yourself
[14:27] in the best light, right? Mhm.
[14:29] >> And um you don't want to have any of
[14:32] your flaws out, but those flaws are can
[14:34] be strength and that can be strength for
[14:37] people cuz now people write me all the
[14:38] time cuz I tell my story all the time
[14:40] and a lot of people write me and say,
[14:42] >> you know, I just feel so comfortable to
[14:44] talk to you about cuz I think the
[14:46] biggest part is like I have to be
[14:47] vulnerable. I have to be a open book so
[14:49] people can be comfortable
[14:52] >> enough to know that you can share that
[14:55] side of you cuz that in our community
[14:57] >> that's it's trust.
[14:59] >> Mhm.
[14:59] >> We don't trust each other, you know.
[15:01] >> That's right.
[15:02] >> We don't trust each other. We like no I
[15:03] can't I don't know what this person may
[15:06] you know may be on. I don't know if this
[15:07] person have the best interest for me.
[15:10] Mhm.
[15:11] >> So really um building those trustworthy
[15:13] relationships um with each other,
[15:16] >> creating that safe space for those girls
[15:18] to develop trust,
[15:19] >> that part.
[15:20] >> I was reading on your website that you
[15:23] guys have like a six-month curriculum or
[15:25] something like that that the girls can
[15:26] still participate in. And then you guys
[15:29] have other programmings like developing
[15:31] leadership and uniting sisterhoods,
[15:34] increasing self-esteem, developing goal
[15:36] setting and community involvement and
[15:38] stuff. Can you tell us more about how
[15:41] many girls you serve and a little bit
[15:44] more about these programs?
[15:45] >> Yep. So, the curriculum now it goes like
[15:48] a nine it goes like a nine-month
[15:49] curriculum. Okay.
[15:50] >> So, we start every fall. Um so, a lot of
[15:53] our students of course they start in
[15:55] September. So, we try to um start
[15:58] grouping about October, you know, get
[15:59] them kind of time to get back into the
[16:02] mood of school.
[16:03] >> And it goes from October to June. So
[16:06] kind of like a
[16:08] >> like a school year.
[16:08] >> Yeah, like a school year almost. Yep.
[16:10] And within that curriculum, um, as I
[16:12] stated before, we start with the inside
[16:16] of the girls. So we start with that
[16:17] self-esteem, that self-awareness, and
[16:19] then we move on to like that community
[16:21] involvement piece. How do you build
[16:22] those healthy relationship? How do you
[16:23] build those connections in your
[16:25] community? And then that last leg is
[16:27] that future aspirations where we do that
[16:30] goal setting, where we do those
[16:31] leadership things, and where we take
[16:33] those H.B.CU's BCU's tour,
[16:35] >> which is for people that don't know the
[16:36] historically black colleges and
[16:38] universities.
[16:39] >> We meet an hour and a half. So, all of
[16:42] our agendas um look similar. It's
[16:44] different topics, but we start off with
[16:46] grounding. So, we make sure that we
[16:48] ground. We make sure we get on the same
[16:50] accord vibration cuz we're all coming
[16:52] from work. Well, we're Yeah, we're
[16:54] coming from work. All the facilitators,
[16:55] the kids are coming from school. So, we
[16:57] try to ground first. We do what we call
[16:59] a queen checkin,
[17:01] >> a crown check. So we check in, see how
[17:03] everybody feeling. Of course, we always
[17:05] got food cuz food is, you know, is
[17:07] important and then we would introduce
[17:10] that topic or whatever we going to
[17:11] discuss. While introducing that topic,
[17:13] we always have an engaging activity that
[17:16] we do with the girls. And then that next
[17:17] piece is that reflection piece.
[17:20] >> What have you learned today? You know,
[17:21] and then just kind of have the girls
[17:23] being able to reflect on whatever the
[17:25] topic was that we may have covered that
[17:27] day. Last but not least, every time we
[17:30] we end any group, we do our queen's
[17:32] chant, which is affirmations. Their I am
[17:35] affirmations.
[17:36] >> And I actually should say it at the end
[17:38] today. Yeah, you guys. So, it's a call
[17:40] and respond.
[17:41] >> Okay.
[17:41] >> Um that we do at the end.
[17:43] >> I like the um what you call it? A crown
[17:45] check.
[17:45] >> Crown check. Yeah, you got to check your
[17:46] crown.
[17:46] >> Girl, I'm going to be doing that.
[17:48] >> Yeah, you got Yeah, you got a crown
[17:49] check. Yes.
[17:51] >> Okay. What kind of life skills do you
[17:53] provide that keep our girls safe and
[17:55] equipped for today's stressors?
[17:57] >> The self-awareness piece. I always, you
[17:59] know, in order to know where you're
[18:00] going, you got to know where you come
[18:02] from. You got to know who you are. And
[18:04] my my thing is too when we take in girls
[18:06] in the community, you know, to be aware,
[18:09] >> to be aware is to be alive. Like making
[18:11] sure that you on your P's and your Q's,
[18:13] you know, like you're not on your phone
[18:15] all the time. like you making sure that
[18:16] you are being aware of your environment
[18:18] and the things that's going on and that
[18:20] you're being intentional because you
[18:22] never know who you may meet. I'm really
[18:24] big on it's not what you know, it's who
[18:26] you know. How do you build relationship
[18:28] with people cuz that's going to get you
[18:30] in those spaces that you need to be in.
[18:34] >> So that's a huge part of what we are
[18:37] trying to get them to learn. And what we
[18:40] have implemented this year, we have a
[18:42] grant through the U of M. We have
[18:43] implemented financial literacy.
[18:45] >> Okay.
[18:46] >> Um which
[18:47] >> yes,
[18:47] >> most black families we have not
[18:50] >> I didn't learn anything about credit or
[18:52] anything until I was older.
[18:54] >> So we have Tanya um from SLAP um who has
[18:59] implemented some of her financial
[19:01] literacy basic budgeting. And now what
[19:04] we have coming up actually coming up in
[19:05] May in group we're going to do like some
[19:08] mock some mock dayto-day living so that
[19:11] they can see you know what about food
[19:13] what about rent you know how do you
[19:15] budget how do you pay your bills how do
[19:16] once you start working how do you start
[19:18] saving your money because I was working
[19:19] at 14
[19:21] >> and every paycheck I got because it's
[19:23] five of us my mom wasn't buying me the
[19:25] Jordans so I was buying Jordans get my
[19:27] hair done get my nails done don't have
[19:29] nothing to show for then save a penny
[19:32] >> Mhm. Mhm.
[19:32] >> You know, um, so that's kind of like the
[19:35] new thing that we that we is going to
[19:36] add in there to teach them about, you
[19:38] know, that basic financial literacy.
[19:40] What is credit?
[19:41] >> You know, I was scared
[19:43] >> about getting a credit card cuz my mom
[19:45] was like, "Don't get credit cards.
[19:47] They're horrible. They bad." And the
[19:49] world we live in, credit is important.
[19:50] You know,
[19:51] >> so teaching them those life skills. And
[19:53] then that the huge part is
[19:55] communication.
[19:57] >> How do you communicate? Because our kids
[19:59] are always on their phone. They're
[20:01] texting. It's amazing how I'm not that
[20:05] much older than them, but I guess my
[20:07] generation is definitely different than
[20:08] their generation.
[20:10] >> Yeah.
[20:10] >> How do you call and talk to people about
[20:13] professional businesses and the, you
[20:15] know, the things that you need? How do
[20:16] you advocate for yourself even when
[20:18] you're frustrated?
[20:20] >> How do you maneuver through this world
[20:22] and communicate the things that you need
[20:24] and identify those feelings and those
[20:26] emotions that you are feeling? is one of
[20:28] those things that we're teaching the
[20:30] girls as well. One thing we just did a
[20:32] couple weeks ago because we fundraising
[20:34] for our HB.CU tour, we had them get on
[20:36] the phone and call businesses
[20:38] >> and ask about fundraising opportunities
[20:40] and we gave them like a script and just
[20:43] to see like their confidence as they're
[20:44] talking on the phone because it's like,
[20:46] yeah, you're not talking on the phone
[20:47] with your friend, you talking on the
[20:48] phone about some business, you know, and
[20:50] that's how you create
[20:52] >> that confidence in yourself, you know?
[20:53] That's how you create like you know what
[20:56] I'm calling I'm talking about something
[20:57] that I'm passionate about and something
[20:59] that I want to do and I'm reaching out
[21:02] to my community for those resources. So
[21:04] it was amaz
[21:09] >> talking business.
[21:10] >> Yeah, that is so cute. What events do
[21:14] you have going on this summer and how do
[21:16] parents sign up their young ladies?
[21:18] >> So this summer like I said so we start
[21:20] our um bi-weekly group starts over every
[21:22] fall. Okay.
[21:23] >> Cuz we want to instead of just kind of
[21:27] with the capacity, it's three of us
[21:29] facilitating.
[21:30] >> So, of course, we can't we won't shine
[21:32] to be everywhere, but of course, it's
[21:34] only three of us to go around. So,
[21:37] >> we start every fall so that the girls
[21:40] can kind of be with each other the whole
[21:42] year, build that sisterhood, build those
[21:44] bonds. So, we don't have summer
[21:46] programming, but we will have events in
[21:48] the summer.
[21:48] >> Okay.
[21:49] >> So, um be looking out. We'll be doing a
[21:51] kickball game. We're doing a lot of a
[21:53] lot of these events will be fundraising
[21:54] for the HB.CU tour in October.
[21:57] >> Okay.
[21:57] >> So, we'll be doing a fundraising. We
[21:59] have just partnered and created grind
[22:02] boys group which stands for growing and
[22:04] rising in new directions.
[22:05] >> I love it.
[22:06] >> Yeah. So, you got to grind so you can
[22:07] shine.
[22:08] >> You guys are doing all things.
[22:10] >> So, they're going to actually
[22:11] participate and come with us for our
[22:13] first Well, not our this going to be
[22:15] their first H.B.CU tour. It's going to
[22:17] be Shine's third.
[22:18] >> Okay.
[22:18] >> Um and we partnering with Shadow. It's a
[22:21] program out of Brooklyn Center. Um so
[22:23] we'll be partnering with them. So we'll
[22:24] have different events going on during
[22:26] our summer um to fund raise. A big one
[22:29] that we have at the end of the summer is
[22:31] our back to school event where we do
[22:33] haircuts um and braids. So I braid too.
[22:36] So I'll be braiding
[22:38] >> and we've been doing that for like the
[22:39] last five, six years. And every year it
[22:42] has been getting bigger and bigger. Last
[22:43] year we partnered, we was giving out
[22:45] clothes, we had hygiene, we had socks,
[22:47] haircuts, braids.
[22:49] >> Yeah. Um, so food of course.
[22:52] >> Um, so those are the things that we have
[22:54] going on this summer. Really just
[22:56] preparing us for the fall for the H.B.CU
[22:58] tour that we'll be going to Louisiana
[23:00] and Mississippi.
[23:01] >> Oh wow.
[23:02] >> I'm excited.
[23:03] >> Yeah, that's a huge opportunity because
[23:05] a lot of our kids here in Minnesota
[23:06] don't know anything about Louisiana and
[23:09] Mississippi.
[23:09] >> Well, some of them don't even know what
[23:10] H.B.CU is.
[23:12] >> Mhm.
[23:13] >> Like when I first started working at
[23:15] school, I'm like, "Y'all know what HB.CU
[23:16] is?" They was like, "No." But I went on
[23:18] a tour
[23:20] >> my junior year.
[23:21] >> Yeah.
[23:21] >> And I went to Atlanta.
[23:23] >> And I remember going to Atlanta. Like we
[23:26] only ever been to Chicago growing up.
[23:29] >> We never got I never got on a plane. I
[23:30] was like 19. And I remember going to
[23:33] Atlanta. I remember being culture shock.
[23:34] Like
[23:35] >> it's black people.
[23:38] >> Yeah. Like that's a black judge walking,
[23:40] you know.
[23:40] >> Girl. Yeah.
[23:41] >> You know cuz I'm so used to not I'm like
[23:44] my family
[23:46] >> had just working. Mhm.
[23:47] >> You get a job, you get a job, you get a
[23:49] job. So to see so many black people in
[23:52] those careers was amazing. Then to go to
[23:54] school where
[23:55] >> it's so much black culture and it's so
[23:57] much, you know, being able to be
[23:59] creative.
[24:00] >> Yeah.
[24:01] >> In a space that you see so much
[24:03] representation cuz I used always
[24:05] thinking going to college was like for
[24:08] like nerds. So it's just exciting to see
[24:10] the girls when we go on these campuses
[24:12] and they see the girls looking just like
[24:14] them. They like,
[24:15] >> "Oh, so I don't have to be a nerd." No,
[24:17] you don't. Like,
[24:18] >> yeah,
[24:19] >> these people is getting to it. So,
[24:20] >> just got to have a goal.
[24:22] >> Absolutely.
[24:22] >> Just got to have a goal. What are your
[24:24] goals? Speaking of for the young ladies
[24:26] in St. Paul,
[24:27] >> my goal is for them to always remember
[24:29] Shine
[24:30] >> and
[24:32] take that on with you and be the change.
[24:35] Like um Michael Jackson said, man in the
[24:37] mirror,
[24:38] >> the change starts with you. So whether
[24:41] you are in shine or whether they are not
[24:44] in shine, be the change. Go help another
[24:46] sister out that you see that may needs
[24:48] help or you know I always challenge
[24:51] myself to talk to different people every
[24:54] time I see them. You know just you know
[24:55] you just never know what people may
[24:57] need. So my goal is for them to shine in
[25:00] any room that they are in like own the
[25:03] room that you are in. you know, make
[25:04] sure you shine your your light because
[25:07] we have so much and our girls have so
[25:09] much to offer. Don't even know
[25:12] >> how powerful they are and the talents,
[25:15] the hidden talents that they have and
[25:18] how many people are willing to invest in
[25:19] them
[25:20] >> and want to see you succeed.
[25:22] >> Let's do the chat. The chant. Am I
[25:24] supposed to repeat after you or you
[25:26] going to do it?
[25:26] >> Yeah. So, it's called So, it's it's a
[25:27] call and response.
[25:28] >> Okay.
[25:29] >> Okay. Are you ready?
[25:31] >> Yeah.
[25:32] >> I am beautiful. I am beautiful.
[25:34] >> I am worthy.
[25:35] >> I am worthy.
[25:36] >> I am enough.
[25:37] >> I am enough.
[25:38] >> I am important.
[25:39] >> I am important.
[25:40] >> I am smart.
[25:41] >> I am smart.
[25:42] >> I am resilient.
[25:43] >> I am resilient.
[25:44] >> I am confident.
[25:46] >> I am confident.
[25:47] >> I am strong.
[25:48] >> I am strong.
[25:49] >> I am irreplaceable.
[25:52] >> I am irreplaceable.
[25:54] >> I am perfect just the way I am.
[25:56] >> I am perfect just the way I am. So
[25:59] that's what we do at the end of of each
[26:01] group. And they actually do sing.
[26:03] >> They do.
[26:04] >> They sing. Yeah.
[26:06] >> What you're doing is beautiful. Tiara,
[26:08] thank you so much. The city of St. Paul
[26:10] is working to rehabilitate, intervene,
[26:12] and provide safer neighborhoods. If
[26:14] you'd like to learn more about Shine and
[26:17] to volunteer or donate, you can find
[26:19] them at weshineto togetherall.org.
[26:24] If you'd like to be more involved in
[26:26] community government, assisting in
[26:27] advisory and recommendations on policies
[26:30] and proposed alternative public safety
[26:32] projects, the Neighborhood Safety
[26:34] Community Council is now accepting
[26:35] applications through August. Please
[26:37] visit us at stpaul.govs.
[26:40] forward slashs.