Well, I have I know how that can like itgot >> Oh, yeah.>> stuck and twist your hold. Yeah. >> Just Yeah. All the North St. Paul Arts and CultureCommission meeting to order at 6:30 p.m. here on July 1st, 2026.Oh, here comes another with audience members as well. >> Just in time. I just called the meetingto order. Um, so Jordan, if you could take rolefor us, please. >> Yes, I can. Um, Tom Sonic>> here. >> Carrie Neto>> here. >> Ashley Perfect>> here. Sharon Clark Williams >> here.>> Raquel stood is absent. Uh Laura String >> here.>> Uh Eliza Verma >> here.>> Urosco Garcia is absent. And Troy Woods >> here.>> And our uh staff leazison Jordan Layman is here. Thank you Jordan. Okay. Uhmoving on to section three adopting the agenda. Did everyone get a chance?Anything else you want to add or change? >> There was one typo.>> Are you talking about the minutes? >> Oh the minutes. I am sorry not theagenda. The agenda is pretty slight today. So, so we can>> Perfect. I'm sorry, everyone. >> No worries. I misspoke.>> All good with the agenda. Anyone want to make a motion to approve?>> I'll make a motion to approve it since I was out of>> second by Laura. All in favor say I. I oppose. Agenda is adopted. Okay. Now,the minutes. You have a change for us, Sharon.>> Yeah. I just It's not a major change. It's the It says the next meeting. Ithas the wrong date. It doesn't really matter.I'm on page four, I think. Where is Oh, yeah. Uh, page six.>> Six of 10. Next meeting is Wednesday, June 3rd at 6:30, but it's probably June1st since the meeting minutes were from June 3rd.>> Yeah, July 1st. And it only matters for people who are going to go back andresearch history >> in case it was out of context.>> Yeah. Yeah, I can definitely change that.>> Okay. >> I also forgot to grab a copy of myagenda. I'm so sorry, Jordan. I say I read it in the email, but I waslike, cool. Thank you. Um, any other recommendations for theminutes or concerns? >> Uh, if not, we'll look for a motion toapprove the minutes from June 3rd. >> So moved. Move>> by Carrie. >> Second.>> Second by Eliza. All those in favor say I. I. Opposed.>> Minutes are approved. Meeting open to public. Would you like to add anythingtonight? >> Rowan.>> Rowan. >> Anything for you?>> No. Okay. All good. Okay. I have no public hearings, commission, business,action items, recommendations. So, we will go to subcommittee updates.All right. So, public art. Um, so Laura or Carrie, any updates here?>> Um, I don't think do we have any updates?>> I do have a question. >> Yes.>> So, it felt like we had spent more than we hadbudgeted to spend in this department. So, I didn't move forward with thestamping because I thought we blew our budget.>> Um, but the stamping is not a lot of money. So, if I can move forward, I'llsubmit that request. I just wasn't sure. >> Yeah. And then we can move from anotherline item yet. >> Okay. Okay. I just wasn't sure. And itwasn't in our aotment. So, >> yeah.>> Okay. Great. >> That's okay.>> Do we know when the penny press will be here?>> Um, I had called them maybe about a month ago or maybe right after lastmeeting. I don't know. Um, they said some parts were on back order, so belike a few months before it's shipped. I emailed them again this past week and Ihaven't heard back yet, but it's a work in progress so far still.>> Thanks, Jordan. >> All right. Uh, mural team, Carrie,myself, Sharon. Carrie or Sharon, do you have anything?>> I don't uh if Jordan has anything in regards to the>> Yes. So, um, where we were last with the 45th parallel monument, um, last meetingwas we were, uh, going to have that proposal looked at by the parks andreccks commission, um, to see what their thoughts and opinions were. Um, so Sarahpresented that to them and gave me their feedback. Um, so overall, they're verysupportive of the idea. They think it's a great opportunity to bring uh, peopleto North St. Paul. Um, one of the things they had two main points that I think ofuh, feedback was that they are not super enthusiastic with the obelisk style ofthe monument. They are recommending more of a natural style um, like a boulder orwood sign kind of something like that to blend into the natural setting giventhat >> um, in a nature preserve. Um, I believeSouthwood Nature Preserve. Yeah. Um, let's see. And then the other big uhpoint that they or feedback that they had was they would like for the Arts andCulture Commission to connect with the volunteers of Southwood to obtain theirfeedback and would recommend contacting the neighbors of Southwood if themonument is visible from homes. I don't believe it would be um but not 100%confident with that. And Sarah is also happy to connect um the relevant membersum with the parks and rec commissioner Lloyd Graychek who lives next toSouthwood and that is also he's the uh that park's official representative. Soif um that move for moving forward with speaking with uh the Southwoodvolunteers, he would probably be a good resource to uh contact.>> Okay. Um you'll have to email me your name and contact information>> for sure. Um, it is not visible from the street or a home. You have to walk intothe park to access the 45th parallel. >> Okay, perfect.>> Lloyd's a really good guy, too. Is he still chair of the parks commission oris >> um I believe Laura Greenley Karp is thechair. Yeah. >> And is Lloyd still on the commission,though? >> Yes, I believe so.>> Okay. Um, I was reaching out to differentbusinesses on uh signage. FTCC Graphics, who is the utility box wrap group, saidthat they could add stickers to our existing utility boxes. Um, it's b itwould basically be a decal that they put on top. And he estimated $10 persticker, but it would be more if variables change, like they need to helpus with the art design or whatever. Um, and if the size is bigger than he'sthinking, Screen Tech um was not able to help with the um mural muralsignage that we were talking about. So, I did reach out to Awards by Hammond,which is a group that the parks commission has used in the past. Um, andshe needed me to send her more info. So, that's in progress.>> North St. Paul. >> Yeah.>> Okay. >> So, that was too bad, but because I liketo support local, but those are my updates. So, I guess I'll talk to theutility box committee about what would look good for a decal addition on theutility boxes we already have. >> Okay, cool.>> Um, couple updates from me for murals. Um, one is so the VFW does not seem tobe in a any big rush to do a mural on side of their building. I've had uh uhseveral outreach attempts to them and I'm not hearing anything back. So, I'mnot sure where they want to go with that yet or if they've been had a chance todiscuss it with their um committee also. So, um looking into um upgradingor uh refreshing our downtown uh light pole banners that we have. So, they'rethey're hanging on the light poles, I think, on just on 7th Avenue inMargaret. I'm not sure if they're anywhere else in town, but um these arethe ones that there's there's probably six to eight different designs of those.Um and I know back when I was on council, this was something that came upback at that time and we kind of forgot about it and then it came up again. So,we thought uh this is an opportunity to do that. And I did I did connect withthe city manager about that and he thought that that would be a good ideafor the arts commission to pick that one up because I wasn't sure Troy ifanything else had been uh come up in council about that. Um>> you did okay good. Um so looking into that just trying tounderstand uh the total volume of banners that we have locations. Um, Isent some pictures to Screen Tech also, um, asking for some estimates from them.And then I'll get some basic information together and then get, uh, get theproposal filled out for that once I have a little bit more information. But rightnow, I'm uh, still gathering information at this point. Um,so yes, waiting on information. I felt like there was one other thing aboutthose banners that I had to say, but but maybe not. But I think what we'll do isuh I think we'll maybe our subcommittee cantalk about that a little bit more because we can decide if we want to do acall for artists or if we want to do something simpler or how we want toapproach that because I think uh um my desire with this project is to uh keepit artistically very simple. >> Um you know>> sounds good. Once we know what's the concept, then we can>> Yeah. >> move on to how will we proceed withgetting >> Yeah.>> sounds good. >> So, looking to add a little pop of coloron those light posts. >> Well, we've had these for a good spell.They've served us well. So, it's not foriveness or negativity towardsexisting. It's just they need to be refreshed.>> Yeah. Some of them you can see are pretty faded. You can't you can't readeverything. Yeah. Um, okay. So, that's it on murals.Um, utility boxes. The new one looks great.>> So, the picture, it looks fantastic. >> Mhm.>> I got to go look at it in real life. >> So amazing.>> I would challenge everyone to go and find their hands.>> Yeah. >> It's just so exciting to see up andvibrant and beautiful. Yeah, great job.>> Looks really good. The colors and everything, the whole design workedreally well. >> Nice work.>> Um, anything else on utility boxes. Okay. Um, art cart.There's a We have a a music in the art cart at music in the parks this week,right? Or next week, I mean, >> I think it is.Yeah, I have a because I I have it on my calendar that I'm uh volunteering atthat one. >> Yeah, there's a music in the park onJuly 9th. >> Music in the parks. Yeah. Art cart musicin the parks from 5 to 6:30. That's what I have to>> Okay. So, it'll be there. And um is anyone leading this or am I leading it?There's a person. >> Okay.>> You should have told them I was >> sorry. You have an>> All right, kids. >> You're bringing the craft.>> Walk in. Do whatever you want. >> Some rules. Teach them how to>> knock yourself out. >> I know it's>> I just wanted to give an update since I wasn't at the last commission meeting.So, I did the the music in the park kids at um House Park. Excuse me if Imispronounced that. Um so, a couple things. I got feedback from Ava thatone, she didn't know the cart was coming. Um, so we need to kind of talkto her about like the best way to communicate and then also kind of thelayout of it was because where we were set up, where the art cart was and thatit was a covered pavilion which was really nice.>> Um, but even with the park and the kids coming and going, like they were allinside and that's how Ava designed it. >> So it kind of didn't promote a flow ofhaving the art cart, especially hiring an artist. So,>> um, definitely something we can try again, but I think we need to connectwith Ava to she wasn't able to promote it, so I think that was part of the lackof participation, too. >> Um, the craft itself was pretty neat.The the guy that came was nice and, you know, helped the kid. We did slimesnowman, melted snowmen. >> Oh, fun.>> Fun. >> Um, you know, and I found found thesigns in the cart and like tried to put them out to like get the people from theplayground, but they were just kind of the attention was diverted elsewhere.Um, so a was just like if we can give her a heads up, um, and or kind of gether feedback on like layout of things of when we should bring it and like when itprobably would logistically not be, you know, like it'd be cool if we had justgone, but like maybe not invite the artist there for the ones that are likeinside >> was the feedback that she gave while Iwas there. that. >> So, the music in the park uh this ornext week is at Casey and so we're >> Can I interrupt?>> Yeah, please. >> A question about that. Is it reallygoing to be at Casey Lake? Because that's also the same night as the SilverLake Beach party. >> Is it?>> Yeah. >> Yep.>> Maybe that is the music in the park. >> I think this party because I went lastyear. >> I think the Silver Lake Beach party maybe the music in the park. >> So then that won't be at Casey. That'llbe it. So, we should talk to Ava before. >> Yeah, I would say confirm that with Avato make sure. >> Oh, okay.>> I can I can talk to her tomorrow and send you an email.>> Yeah, please let us know. >> It says Casey on the>> Yeah, >> maybe it was originally planned to be atCasey, but I know that's also the same night as the the beach party with thesteel drum band. >> Yeah. Okay.>> And the art in the park was there last year.>> Okay. >> So, they were on the far side of thepark. And then Ashley, do we are we using the new uh trailer now?>> It's my first time doing it. It was blue instead city in North St. Paul. So isthat the new trailer? >> The new one. Okay.>> Um and I was very excited to see cuz the trailer looks in good condition and Iwas excited that we're talking about potentially wrapping it cuz I saw it. Iwas like that would be fun and you guys were already on it so that was great.>> Yeah. >> Um but no, they the art guy was great towork with. Showed up all the time. Very friendly.>> Um very good with the kids that >> That's great to hear. Good. So, do Ijust need to be there at 5 or what what's the program? What's theexpectation with the artists? >> So, I asked the same question and that'skind of the other thing I think we um should cuz um I don't know the best wayto communicate that if we should reach out to you based on the contract becauseI had the same question um when I went um so I didn't know like when we shouldexpect the artists and we uh thought the feedback was it was in the contract so Idon't know if that's covered in the contract or not.>> Sorry, it's not the what was >> start time. Oh, gotcha. Yes. So, yeah, Ican start up like Yeah, since we're doing the contracting, it's all a littlebit new, but I can Yeah, maybe send like a summary detail.>> That would be so like Yeah, like what the contract specifications are.>> Um, >> cuz Ashley texted me and I'm like, Idon't know. We've never done it before. It's brand new. So, that would behelpful. >> I I work in supply chain and logistics.>> Yeah, you know how that goes. >> Is he supposed to be there? But he waspretty prompt. I got there about 30 minutes before start time and I think heshowed up like 20 minutes before. >> Oh, that's great.>> And I don't think they use the same person every time. I think it's a bunchof different teachers that work there. >> Um, so contact information for theartist would probably be good too in case they're late. That would reallyhelp. >> Excuse me. And then is the eventactually it is the event is 5 to 6:30. So I I assume then the art cartexpectation is the same time as well. Yeah, I believe that's>> We should probably confirm that because Right. Didn't we only have a>> I think we had an hour >> an hour with that one.>> Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I because I had thought in the past that>> the art cart wasn't always the full time of the>> time. Yeah. >> So, what I'm hearing you say, Ashley, umif I can test my understanding is that the artist was great. The company wasgreat. We love that. We need some more communication among ourselves and withthe city staff >> moving forward. I think we would havehad a better turnout if we had been able to leverage Ava and her social media andthat kind of stuff. >> Well, and it's so funny because I waslooking at all her posts and I'm like, she didn't mention the art card. That'skind of sad. >> Yeah. Well, it's because I I do have apicture of the one kid that that was it. So, um there wasn't unfortunately muchto promote for that one, but it was a learning experience. So, um I thinkindoor ones that are indoors we just need to think about like strategically alittle bit more. Um but great I enjoyed working with the company and he was youknow >> um you know we we talked about you knowwhat how long he was going to stay because it was kind of windy and coldand um at the point you know I did >> I think we cut it like 10 minutes earlybecause I was like there's no really reason like people aren't coming so thenwe helped Ava out and stuff like that. So>> cool >> good learning experience. I definitelylook forward to what they're going to do the next time we do things with them.So, we'll get a little routine next week because we have Thursday and then Fridayat the uh car show, big truck night, right?>> I was going to ask, we don't have anyone hired for that big truck night. Is therea plan for the crafts or just knowing if I'm>> kind of short on time to get anything, but if we do need to get anything or>> Yeah, I think that was one we were just going to do on our own like paintingrocks or something. >> We We got tons of stuff.>> We got so much crap in there, you know, come up with an art project for thatnight. Yeah. >> Okay.>> Or we just let kids draw. I mean, >> Troy, we can uh tap into our scoutingbackground and maybe teach kids how to use knives and>> tons of you can bring and tie all kinds of knots.>> Tie knots. >> Yeah.>> I think knives require a liability waiver.>> Okay. So, big big truck night 4:30 to 8. So, so um do we have folks here thatwill be able to be there big truck night?>> Yeah. I don't know that I can be there exactly at 4:30. I'm going in a lot moreoften. So, >> yeah, I'll try and be there as soon as Ican. >> Coming back and forth between there inthe city tent. >> Oh, you're at the city tent, too. Okay.>> At our usual spot. >> Yeah. Are we at our usual spot? Iassume, >> I believe. So, I'm not sure what theusual spot is. Normally, I just >> probably at the usual spot.>> It's right there by the where the trucks >> by all the trucks. Okay. Yeah, probablythere. >> You all coming? that I could probably dolike the first part of it. >> Oh, the first part. Oh, that would begreat to know that we got early coverage.>> I think I can get the back 30. >> Okay. Yeah.>> Do we need to be more >> I'll find the street name.>> Specific about what we're going to do. Do you care?>> I think we can figure something out. And then I don't know that we need to bethere till 8 >> cuz kids aren't going to be there thatlate. Do we want >> I feel like we cut early.>> Do we want to call it at like 6:30 or something? What do you think? I don'tknow. I think that's good.>> Like the it's 4:30 to 8 is the whole evening. I don't know that we need>> I don't think we've ever stayed through the whole thing.>> I thought the actual night starts at 5 and we are going to be there at 4:30 toget >> to get set up.And what I've noticed is that people don't really get there except for oldpeople before like six because frequently like the people with kids,they want to feed them first or they got to pick them up from daycare and>> get home, get changed. >> Yeah. The kids don't really startshowing up until 6. >> So, do we want to shift our coverage alittle later? >> I think we're there at 4:30 to make surewe're set up. >> Yeah. and to make sure that there'speople there and that sort of thing. So, so the city drops off the art cart andthe art cart's just sitting there >> and somebody's got to get there.Somebody has to be there. >> Well, would you rather have us go fromlike like we show up at 5:30 to set up and so we go from like 5:30 to 8>> rather than 4? So, we're kind of open for business from 6:00 to 8 or>> or do we all have to be there at the same time? cuz like I could like I couldbe there at like 4:30, my work will allow for it. So like if someone elsecan be there with me and stuff and then like we could like>> we certainly don't all have to be there at the same time. And so I think if wecan get a little bit of that work, >> we just stagger the time. I I don'tthink I have anything going on that afternoon. I have to double check>> and I would be able to be there so Eliza and I can walk down there and>> Okay. You too. Well, do you want to wait till at least till 5 and if if you thinkthere's going to be nobody there, you start setting up at five.>> I'm not worried if nobody's there or not.>> Okay. >> Mhm.>> Talk to each other. >> That's when we do our own artistic likeexamples and we're like, look, >> that'll give us time to figure out whatwe're making. >> So, Sharon and Liza start setting up at4:30 >> and then we'll just see how it goes. Andthen >> how do we have a key? I know the old onehad like a padlock. Do we have to pick something up from you, Jordan?>> Um, yes. It'll be the same key. So, um, Tom's going to need it the night before,>> so I don't know. >> Do you want Do you want me to take ittonight? >> Yeah, that that would work.>> So, then I've got it for next Thursday. >> Yeah. And then you'll have to figure outwith whoever is going to be there first to get it open on um>> for the next Yeah. Okay. >> And I'm I'm so close, too. I mean, andI'm I'll be home on Friday. I can run down there.>> Yeah, >> I don't have anything on my calendar, soI can be there. Oh, let me just put it on my calendar.>> Look at this. Look at this teamwork happening here.>> Do you need any of us to help with the what Troy's doing or are you coveredwith council members? I know AA sent out that email and I wasn't>> I can ask Ava to double check, but I don't think so. But she's it's kind ofmore her her wheelhouse, so I can ask her. um and let you guys know.>> And then um to the point of um you know tightening up that communication withAva, is there a better way for should we include her in um our emails aboutsetting up the art cart for music in the park nights or what do you recommend forthat, Jordan? >> Um I I'm will touch base with her withkind of like what we talked about tonight. um and see kind of what workswith her or what works best and communicate that and then kind of bringit back to you guys probably in an email since it'll>> be a little bit too long to wait um for the next time. But yeah, I will I willtouch base with her and then let you guys know.>> Okay, great. Thanks. Because you're right, it is a learningopportunity. So, let's learn from it. >> She was definitely excited to like hearfrom us and get our stuff out there and that stuff. So, which was good.>> Nice. Okay, where were we? >> She's got the baby with it. Oh, somehowI thought the baby was parked next to you. I'm like,>> what is going on over there? >> How do you like that little baby, Rowan?>> He's good answer.>> Could be worse. >> Perfect. Okay. Uh I'm sorry. I got to find myspot here. Okay. Um we are on next up. So, um we had Art Cart and then ArtNight. Uh any updates here? >> I don't think so. I think we're onhiatus until summer's over. So, >> all right. And then Autumn ArtsFestival. Anything from you, Jordan, on that? I know that uh Ava just put out anall hands- on deck call for that, but uh >> um I think I thought I had somethingwritten down. Um I think really it's just contracting with Art Start um to dothe uh community craft project um pretty much have that we're just workingthrough it. It's going smoothly. So that's about that's about it.>> Cool. >> And then Okay. And then we have thecommunity project. any that subgroup any updates there? Eliza, Laura, Sharon, >> nothing there.>> I we've we've met, we've discussed um but nothing concrete.>> No, because um that's going to be put off the community project which was thespoken word, right? Yeah. >> So, that was like the last big event ofthe season which was the fall. So, we don't have like a new one.>> Yeah. Okay. I Yeah, I got a note there still for the spoken word event. I>> mean, we can try to think of something new, but>> it's all good. >> All right. So, where does that bring uson our agenda here? We are then we've had uh our updates. Any old business,Jordan, for us to cover? >> No, nothing that I know of. So,>> okay, then reports from >> Can I ask a question?>> Sorry, Troy. >> Sorry. No, I don't want to interrupt,but um just going through the city calendar and things like that. NationalNight Out is August 4th. Is there any plans for any I know last year we hadthe snow the >> paint your own>> the paint your own snowies. >> Um and so that worked out really welland we there isn't anything like that this year, but is there any plans to doanything for National Night Out? >> I don't think so. Did anyone was anyoneplanning to do anything? >> It's August 4th, right?>> Yes. And so that that would be the day before our next is that's a Tuesdayalways, isn't it? Or >> YTuesday. >> So that would be the day before our nextmeeting. >> So>> So next year we'll have to >> I guess we have no plans for that.>> Okay. >> In advance.>> Um >> yeah, nothing in the hopper for for thisyear, >> but we can always come and visit.>> I'll eat a hot dog. I'll be there.>> All right. >> I think they ran out of hot dogs lastyear, right? >> They did. I was starving.>> Yeah. >> Yeah.>> That's all right. >> Um,>> how dare you? >> I do have a quick question. Back to theutility boxes. Um, Jordan, did we have to make a formal>> I'm looking back at our um emails. Um, a formal motion to include applicantnumber seven in future calls. Um >> trying to remember>> it was said to do that in the July meeting.>> Yes. I think you're right. Yeah. So if >> we could Yeah. Let's make Yeah. motion.So I guess context around it. Um the Silver Lake utility box project the umsubcommittee put forward two applications for the entire commissionto review. um mission found both of the applicantsor applications to be um very artistic and very very good um and ultimatelydecided on one but it was uh brought up if we could savethe other one for later. I'd said I'd come back. Um now um I think gosh Ican't remember quite exactly what my email said but essentially yes we canthe next time we do a call we can include applicant number seven. So, Iwas directed to have the commission make a motion toum >> allow that.>> Yeah. To to keep to >> Yeah. Allow that.>> I can read the sentence because I had to clarify what I said. I asked I said, forexample, in March 2027, we make a call for artists for a utility box where thephotographs would be suitable. At that time, we reach out to applicant numberseven and say and we inform them they can submit a new or resubmit their 2026submissions for considerations for a utility box. But then I also added ifthis is the case in future calls for artists, can we just say if you'veapplied to a previous call for artists, you're welcome to resubmit your earliermaterials for consideration. We receive many strong submissions and we value thetime and care that goes into each one. not being selected previously does notaffect your work being considered in the present opportunity.>> I like that. >> So we just put that in every call.>> Do we really need a motion for that though? I mean we I mean that seems>> for the second part. We don't need a motion. That's a rewarding>> the language. We don't need a motion. >> But yeah, but even for the first partcuz the intention though that the next time uh we have one of these that youwill reach out to applicant 7 and say, "Hey, we we're doing another one. Do wewant Do you want to just have yours included in that?>> Yes. >> Right.>> So, >> so they wouldn't resubmit because wealready have have it. >> Yeah.>> Can we just skip that part and decide that we have another utility box that isthe same exact size as the one that we're wrapping right now and say weenjoyed this art so much that we want to also use it here and get permission fromthat artist to do so. I realize that it's not an open call for artists, butwe don't always do open calls for artists. So if we choose to do a utilitywrap that's just this art, wouldn't that >> So that but that seems to be theopposite of what we heard. >> I guess that's why I was when I wastalking to Ken, I essentially described that and it was des I was told that wewill need to have like that call um to give everyone the opportunity. That'sessentially how I'm recalling this conversation,>> which is totally totally makes sense if it were an open call and if I wouldagree if we were having an open call and we're like,>> "Yeah, but we got this artist that we like really a lot, so we're going topull that, right?" That would be absolutely reprehensible because thatwould not be ethical. But now that we have identified this art that we doenjoy and appreciate, I would be amazed if we couldn't find a utility box thatwas the same size that would work. Um, I just I know that we've done I mean wedecided to do the heart hands. That wasn't a call for artists. That was justpeople doing their hands. I guess I'm trying to understand that point.>> It seems to me that we can just wait until we have the next um plannedutility box and determine what we want to do and we just know that we have thisother submission that is available and we can always reach out to that personif it is an open call and say, "Hey, we can resubmit yours for this one if you'dlike." Um or if we if we don't want to have an open call, we can say, "Hey, wewant to just do this one. Are you okay with that and go that direction at thattime?" But I it seems unnecessary for us to have to make a decision on that rightnow when we're >> That's a good point, Tom. Thanks.>> And in the future, we'll just add those couple of sentences I wrote to everysingle call for artists, right? That hey,>> you don't have to draw something new. Just send it back because we might haveactually liked it. Look at us getting better every time.>> Just so we don't miss this part, since we were told to do it in the email,should we um make the formal motion to allow the opportunity for applicateapplicant number seven to be in a future utility box? As Jordan said,>> do we need to make a motion for >> I think it's fine to hold off for rightnow. Um, I don't see like any official action being h happening with likethere's a project, there's money being spent. Um, again, I'll I'll touch baseagain with Ken um just to clarify, but I think for now, from my understanding, wewouldn't need it. Um, and when we would it>> kind of in the future, so it's not like it's a done deal. We don't do it>> because it seems like we would be making a a motion for a hypothetical situationat this point. I don't know any way to make this pop upagain right now. I will put it in a meeting. I'll put it in save it to ameeting for next year >> and then the email will show up againfor me. >> Okay. But, uh, thanks for bringing thatup, Laura. Good memory. >> Good catch.>> Um, so reports from staff, Jordan. Anything on the budget and events thatwe haven't covered? >> Um, no. I think we're good. I submittedthe budget proposal that we had discussed I believe last meeting andhaven't heard anything back which is probably good news. Um>> okay >> but yeah that's that's about it. Nothingfor me. >> All right we'll move on to reports fromcommissioners. I'll start down here with you Ashley. Anything you want to leteverybody know about? >> Nope. Nothing for me.>> Okay Sharon? >> Nope. I have nothing to add.>> Carrie >> nothing.>> Nothing. >> Nothing. Laura, anything else? Okay. Idon't have anything. So, we'll uh look for uh UED's not here. Uh reports fromcouncil leaison. Troy. >> Umnot really much going on. I know budgeting is happening with all the umdepartments. Um I just spoke to city manager and it sounds like they've metwith all the departments and have budgets. We're going to have our firstdiscussion about the budgeting um on the second meeting this month, the 27th.Is that right? Sorry, 21st.Yeah. So, the 21st. Um so, we will have our first kind of fora into thebudgeting process. Then, um elections are coming up. So, if you want to run,um there will be two council spots up for um election as well as the mayorspot is open. Um they're up for election this year. Uh uh you can nominate or notnominations uh >> file>> file. Yes. Um starting the 14th. >> Do you know the deadline?>> July 14th. >> Uh July 14th to the 28th, I So, it'sjust a twoe window where you would get in there to apply. Okay, that'sinteresting. >> All right.>> Um >> I know it starts the 14th. Don't quoteme on that date. Um but yeah, so if you're interested, uh please filestarting the 14th. Um and then other than that, um the um time capsuleopening party was last Friday. >> Yeah.>> Um or sorry, last Thursday. Was a lot of fun.>> Yay. for anybody that was able to go. Um hopefully you had fun, but it was>> I was there and it was a lot of fun. >> I had a whole crew that showed up as a70s wedding party. >> I saw your>> I was not able to be there, but they they had a blast.>> Um yeah, so Oh, thanks for letting us know about the elections. I was curiousat what was going on there. Um, also interesting just to tax-wise when youthink about our tax base and with the big story in Richfield right now withBest Buy. >> Yes.>> Because they're hoping to get their building uh assessed at half of thevalue that it was last year, which would have a big impact on that city's taxbase. So, >> yes. Umbecause I I think their tiff is over and so the city's been, you know, relying onsome of that money. >> Yeah.>> Um anyway. Okay. Anything for Troy? Okay. If nothing else, then I willadjourn the meeting at 7:06 p.m. Thanks everyone.>> Thank you. >> World Cup time.