St. Paul City Council — Transcript
Wednesday, September 2, 2026
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St. Paul Council delays police drone grant over surveillance concerns
Police Department Drone Program Expansion and Oversight
Youth Engagement and Policy Recommendations
Property Abatement and Special Assessments
Sound Level Variances for Events
Fire Department Budget Amendments
City Staff Appointments and Recognition
Votes (7)
Resolution 26-1544: Appointing Special Counsel for Federal Litigation
Dissent: None
Moved by Council President Naker [0:05:14] · Seconded by Not explicitly stated, but implied by immediate vote
The item was brought forward under suspension of rules as 'late breaking legislation' to challenge a federal rule related to grants. There was no substantive discussion beyond acknowledging its urgency.
Resolution 26-1399: Police Department Application for DOJ Microrants Program (Drone Program)
Dissent: Council Member Coleman indicated she would vote 'no' on the grant application, regardless of the layover, due to broader policy concerns.
Moved by Vice President Yang [0:11:06] · Seconded by Not explicitly stated, but implied by discussion and vote
Council Member Kim pulled this item for transparency, asking about the scope, budget, timing of the application, and data privacy for the proposed drone program expansion. Deputy Chief Holstrom clarified that the $200,000 grant was for equipment to expand the existing Skyo (Axon company) drone program, not related to Flock cameras. Concerns were raised by several council members about the timing of the application, the lack of prior information, the broader implications of surveillance technology, and the need for a comprehensive city-wide policy on such technologies. Many expressed a desire for a deeper dive and community input, leading to a motion for a one-week layover.
Resolution 26-1492: Staff Appointments
Dissent: None
Moved by Council President Naker [0:24:08] · Seconded by Not explicitly stated, but implied by immediate vote
The resolution appointed Karen Dennis as communications lead, Reggie Evans as reparations legislative aid, and Joanna Zimnney as legislative hearing officer. Council members praised the new appointees for their immediate contributions and hard work during challenging times, with a ceremonial swearing-in following the vote.
Staff Report 26-186: State of Our Youth Address
Moved by No formal motion or vote required for a staff report.
Intern JC Johnson Becker presented a report on the successful inaugural 'State of the Youth Address,' which featured youth speakers and poets from various wards discussing critical issues like climate change, immigration, housing insecurity, mental health, and the importance of youth employment programs like Right Track. The youth proposed specific policy actions for the city, and the council praised the event's impact and Johnson Becker's leadership.
Resolution 26-1493: Proclaiming September 2nd, 2026 as JC Johnson Becker Day
Dissent: None
Moved by Council Member Kim [0:40:24] · Seconded by Not explicitly stated, but implied by immediate vote
A surprise resolution was introduced to honor JC Johnson Becker for his exemplary work leading the inaugural 'State of the Youth Address.' The resolution detailed his extensive background, achievements in academics and circus arts, and his dedication to public service through programs like Right Track and the Planning Commission. Council members lauded his contributions and leadership.
Legislative Hearing: Resolution RLHRR26-16 Amending Abatement Order for 947 Fremont Avenue
Dissent: None
Moved by Council Member Johnson [0:55:54] · Seconded by Vice President Yang [0:56:59]
The council discussed the appealed substantial abatement order for 947 Fremont Avenue, focusing on the forfeiture of a performance deposit due to slow progress. The Legislative Hearing Officer presented options, and the council amended the recommendation to forfeit the remaining $10,000 performance deposit in increments every 45 days, aligning with the previously allotted 180-day timeline for completion.
Legislative Hearing: RHTA26-158 Ratifying Appealed Special Tax Assessment for 777 Ohio Street
Dissent: None
Moved by Council President Naker [1:06:50] · Seconded by Not explicitly stated, but implied by immediate vote
This item involved an unusual interior abatement at a private residence (777 Ohio Street) initiated due to severe sanitary issues impacting public health, performed by the city with the homeowner's consent shortly before her passing. The deceased owner's daughter and nephew disputed the $6,800 charge, presenting evidence that some billed work was not performed or was incorrectly done by the city's contractor. Due to these factual disputes, the council referred the matter back to the Legislative Hearing Officer for a dedicated hearing to gather more information and iron out the conflicting claims.
Notable Quotes (15)
Resolution 26-1544 appointing the public rights project as special council for the purpose of providing legal representation to the city of St. Paul in affirmative litigation to challenge a federal rule related to grants. And uh this is sort of late breaking legislation uh against the federal government and it was something we needed to get on the agenda um somewhat quickly.
The proposed budget was $200,000 in the fiscal year 2728. Uh the the intent to apply for the uh the funds was to uh add to our DDP drone program. that's currently uh in use in the city.
This is not flock related has has absolutely zero to do with flock. Um these these are drones from Skyo uh which is an Axon company which is the platforms that I had previously mentioned that our body cameras our incar cameras our tasers um many of the our RMS system our evidence management system is axonbased so it's just a uh a continuation of what the drone program is that we are currently operating you know our docked drone program so it's adding uh additional units to that each each drone can fly for 20 minutes up to a two two mile radius.
It's really critical to me that we don't make these decisions kind of one after the other, this contract, that contract, this grant application, that grant application, but have a a much bigger understanding of how we want to approach this decision-m in the future and what technologies we want to be using, when under what circumstances, how we want to be funding those, and again, how most critically we're building public trust in our policing institution and in our city as a whole.
Yep. That that that web page that I I I mentioned back in June when we were here, but there's a web page. It has it has the flight paths locations. So, if you look at the at the maps, you'll see that they all originate from three general locations. And there's a a you know, we can't tell you the exact street address of where where the drone was dispatched to, but it has the call type and the the location in which the general drone was was dispatched.
Mr. Evans, you know, had to basically plan with the partnership with the community a massive tour with our harm report uh contractors. Within his first week, um you know, Miss Dennis basically came in and we're like, "We need a press release and we need all of our social medias and oh yeah, you also have to run um the entire intercommunications role for the council during the midst of really complex times and encampment closures.
Kids shouldn't have to protest. We should be able to inherit a world that works, not one that we need to fix. Our job should be to imagine our future, not beg for one.
The specific asset we've gotten from the city are such of interest in the climate director to help help foster uh interest in sustainable and renewable programs in the city to increase the funding for Riterek to adopt housing first policies to assist with legal aid for immigrants keeping the CARES unit and safer biking routes for sustainable transportation.
Whereas Jaci Johnson Becker was born and raised in St. Paul two and a half weeks early and has always been in a hurry. Jaci is described as a voracious reader. He learned his alphabet before he was 2 years old, but stubbornly did not want to learn XYZ and was once convinced that he'd be fine with A through W. As a child, JC could often be found surrounded by piles of books he has read.
All of this work was pulled off I believe during a time when there wasn't the legislative aid available or you know in in your office. Um, and so JC, it just really speaks volumes about the the workload you can carry, your commitment, your passion to the work here, and I'm just truly in awe um of everything that happened at the state of the youth address.
Uh you could not forfeit any additional money of course just taking no action. You could modify uh to forfeit less less frequently than once a month. Uh you could also instead of doing a forfeite of the existing performance deposit require that additional performance deposit be posted and um in a case like this were the council to choose a path like that, I would say no less than $10,000.
So to forfeit the current perform I want to make sure I'm stating the resolution the motion to forfeit the current performance deposit and of is that 5,000 the the 10,000 there's 15,000 posted now. You have already forfeited five a month ago. And so you're dealing with what the balance is and whether to forfeit and in what amount at what rate. So to forfeit the remaining 10,000 every 45 days at an amount of Yes. Till the work is complete.
The police did indicate and um the referral says the female is living in her home alone with stage four cancer. She has black mold covering her basement and her sewage no longer works. Non-livable and unsafe conditions. She can't afford to fix her plumbing and hasn't been able to flush for weeks.
I respectfully dispute these charges because I have evidence showing the work being built. I have documentation and evidence supporting my position, including photos, videos, and invoices from a separate licensed and insured plumber who inspected and performed necessary plumbing work shortly after my mother had passed. The evidence shows that other than install installation of the new pipe, the work the city claimed to have completed was either not performed or not necessary.
There's two charges on the bill. One for digging, one for jetting the pipe. They never did the digging. So, we're not disputing the whole bill. It's just the part where they said they dug it up and replaced the pipe, but they never replaced. And they also claim on the receipts that there's a threemonth warranty. We were calling in May. They did the work in April. Nobody would ever come out to actually warranty it, come look at it. Vicki was in the hospital for 3 weeks. Came home. The whole basement was still flooded.
Ordinances & Resolutions (28)
Appointing the Public Rights Project as special counsel for federal litigation.
Authorizing the police department to apply for a US Department of Justice microgrants program for drone expansion.
Appointing Karen Dennis as communications lead, Reggie Evans as reparations legislative aid, and Joanna Zimnney as legislative hearing officer.
Staff report on the inaugural 'State of our Youth Address'.
Proclaiming September 2nd, 2026 as JC Johnson Becker Day in the City of St. Paul.
Approving a sound level variance for University of St. Thomas's Tommy Fest homecoming event.
Approving a sound level variance for University of St. Thomas's Creton Durham Hall football events.
Approving a sound level variance for Anderson race management's 'Walk for Water' event.
Amending the spending plan in the fire department public safety aid projects.
Amending fire department financing and spending plans for firefighter training contribution.
Amending fire department financing and spending plans for trailer sale proceeds.
Amending fire department financing and spending plans for land sale proceeds.
Amending and making findings on an appealed substantial abatement order for 947 Fremont Avenue.
Previous council record related to the abatement order for 947 Fremont Avenue.
Ratifying an appealed special tax assessment for property at 777 Ohio Street.
A specific microgrants program from the US Department of Justice, aimed at community policing development.
The police department's existing drone program.
The data management system used by the police department for body cameras, in-car cameras, tasers, and drone data.
A contract with Skyo, an Axon company, for drone technology.
A past resolution passed by the council in opposition to the use of Flock cameras.
The city of St. Paul's youth employment training program.
A city commission on which JC Johnson Becker serves as a commissioner.
Community Alternative Response Emergency Care Services unit within the St. Paul Fire Department.
An organization mentioned in connection with assistance for the owner of 777 Ohio Street.
City department involved in assessing dangerous property conditions and coordinating abatement.
Contributor of funds for firefighter training.
Host of a back to school backpack giveaway event.
Co-host of a back to school backpack giveaway event.