St. Paul City Council — Transcript

Wednesday, September 2, 2026

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St. Paul Council delays police drone grant over surveillance concerns

Police Department Drone Program Expansion and Oversight

Youth Engagement and Policy Recommendations

Property Abatement and Special Assessments

Sound Level Variances for Events

Fire Department Budget Amendments

City Staff Appointments and Recognition

Votes (7)

Resolution 26-1544: Appointing Special Counsel for Federal Litigation

Seven in favor, none opposed. Resolution adopted.

Dissent: None

Moved by Council President Naker [0:05:14] · Seconded by Not explicitly stated, but implied by immediate vote

The item was brought forward under suspension of rules as 'late breaking legislation' to challenge a federal rule related to grants. There was no substantive discussion beyond acknowledging its urgency.

Resolution 26-1399: Police Department Application for DOJ Microrants Program (Drone Program)

Seven in favor, none opposed. Resolution laid over for one week.

Dissent: Council Member Coleman indicated she would vote 'no' on the grant application, regardless of the layover, due to broader policy concerns.

Moved by Vice President Yang [0:11:06] · Seconded by Not explicitly stated, but implied by discussion and vote

Council Member Kim pulled this item for transparency, asking about the scope, budget, timing of the application, and data privacy for the proposed drone program expansion. Deputy Chief Holstrom clarified that the $200,000 grant was for equipment to expand the existing Skyo (Axon company) drone program, not related to Flock cameras. Concerns were raised by several council members about the timing of the application, the lack of prior information, the broader implications of surveillance technology, and the need for a comprehensive city-wide policy on such technologies. Many expressed a desire for a deeper dive and community input, leading to a motion for a one-week layover.

Resolution 26-1492: Staff Appointments

Seven in favor, none opposed. Resolution adopted.

Dissent: None

Moved by Council President Naker [0:24:08] · Seconded by Not explicitly stated, but implied by immediate vote

The resolution appointed Karen Dennis as communications lead, Reggie Evans as reparations legislative aid, and Joanna Zimnney as legislative hearing officer. Council members praised the new appointees for their immediate contributions and hard work during challenging times, with a ceremonial swearing-in following the vote.

Staff Report 26-186: State of Our Youth Address

N/A

Moved by No formal motion or vote required for a staff report.

Intern JC Johnson Becker presented a report on the successful inaugural 'State of the Youth Address,' which featured youth speakers and poets from various wards discussing critical issues like climate change, immigration, housing insecurity, mental health, and the importance of youth employment programs like Right Track. The youth proposed specific policy actions for the city, and the council praised the event's impact and Johnson Becker's leadership.

Resolution 26-1493: Proclaiming September 2nd, 2026 as JC Johnson Becker Day

Seven in favor, none opposed. Resolution adopted.

Dissent: None

Moved by Council Member Kim [0:40:24] · Seconded by Not explicitly stated, but implied by immediate vote

A surprise resolution was introduced to honor JC Johnson Becker for his exemplary work leading the inaugural 'State of the Youth Address.' The resolution detailed his extensive background, achievements in academics and circus arts, and his dedication to public service through programs like Right Track and the Planning Commission. Council members lauded his contributions and leadership.

Legislative Hearing: Resolution RLHRR26-16 Amending Abatement Order for 947 Fremont Avenue

Seven in favor, none opposed. Resolution adopted as motioned.

Dissent: None

Moved by Council Member Johnson [0:55:54] · Seconded by Vice President Yang [0:56:59]

The council discussed the appealed substantial abatement order for 947 Fremont Avenue, focusing on the forfeiture of a performance deposit due to slow progress. The Legislative Hearing Officer presented options, and the council amended the recommendation to forfeit the remaining $10,000 performance deposit in increments every 45 days, aligning with the previously allotted 180-day timeline for completion.

Legislative Hearing: RHTA26-158 Ratifying Appealed Special Tax Assessment for 777 Ohio Street

Seven in favor, none opposed. Motion to refer to legislative hearing on October 6th and council public hearing on October 14th passed.

Dissent: None

Moved by Council President Naker [1:06:50] · Seconded by Not explicitly stated, but implied by immediate vote

This item involved an unusual interior abatement at a private residence (777 Ohio Street) initiated due to severe sanitary issues impacting public health, performed by the city with the homeowner's consent shortly before her passing. The deceased owner's daughter and nephew disputed the $6,800 charge, presenting evidence that some billed work was not performed or was incorrectly done by the city's contractor. Due to these factual disputes, the council referred the matter back to the Legislative Hearing Officer for a dedicated hearing to gather more information and iron out the conflicting claims.

Notable Quotes (15)

Resolution 26-1544 appointing the public rights project as special council for the purpose of providing legal representation to the city of St. Paul in affirmative litigation to challenge a federal rule related to grants. And uh this is sort of late breaking legislation uh against the federal government and it was something we needed to get on the agenda um somewhat quickly.

Council President Naker [0:04:41]
Resolution 26-1544: Appointing Special Counsel for Federal Litigation

The proposed budget was $200,000 in the fiscal year 2728. Uh the the intent to apply for the uh the funds was to uh add to our DDP drone program. that's currently uh in use in the city.

DC Holstrom [0:06:55]
Resolution 26-1399: Police Department Application for DOJ Microrants Program (Drone Program)

This is not flock related has has absolutely zero to do with flock. Um these these are drones from Skyo uh which is an Axon company which is the platforms that I had previously mentioned that our body cameras our incar cameras our tasers um many of the our RMS system our evidence management system is axonbased so it's just a uh a continuation of what the drone program is that we are currently operating you know our docked drone program so it's adding uh additional units to that each each drone can fly for 20 minutes up to a two two mile radius.

DC Holstrom [0:09:47]
Resolution 26-1399: Police Department Application for DOJ Microrants Program (Drone Program)

It's really critical to me that we don't make these decisions kind of one after the other, this contract, that contract, this grant application, that grant application, but have a a much bigger understanding of how we want to approach this decision-m in the future and what technologies we want to be using, when under what circumstances, how we want to be funding those, and again, how most critically we're building public trust in our policing institution and in our city as a whole.

Council Member Coleman [0:14:46]
Resolution 26-1399: Police Department Application for DOJ Microrants Program (Drone Program)

Yep. That that that web page that I I I mentioned back in June when we were here, but there's a web page. It has it has the flight paths locations. So, if you look at the at the maps, you'll see that they all originate from three general locations. And there's a a you know, we can't tell you the exact street address of where where the drone was dispatched to, but it has the call type and the the location in which the general drone was was dispatched.

Council President Naker [0:20:12]
Resolution 26-1399: Police Department Application for DOJ Microrants Program (Drone Program)

Mr. Evans, you know, had to basically plan with the partnership with the community a massive tour with our harm report uh contractors. Within his first week, um you know, Miss Dennis basically came in and we're like, "We need a press release and we need all of our social medias and oh yeah, you also have to run um the entire intercommunications role for the council during the midst of really complex times and encampment closures.

Council Member Johnson [0:25:01]
Resolution 26-1492: Staff Appointments

Kids shouldn't have to protest. We should be able to inherit a world that works, not one that we need to fix. Our job should be to imagine our future, not beg for one.

Eliza Johnson [0:29:43]
Staff Report 26-186: State of Our Youth Address

The specific asset we've gotten from the city are such of interest in the climate director to help help foster uh interest in sustainable and renewable programs in the city to increase the funding for Riterek to adopt housing first policies to assist with legal aid for immigrants keeping the CARES unit and safer biking routes for sustainable transportation.

JC Johnson Becker [0:35:48]
Staff Report 26-186: State of Our Youth Address

Whereas Jaci Johnson Becker was born and raised in St. Paul two and a half weeks early and has always been in a hurry. Jaci is described as a voracious reader. He learned his alphabet before he was 2 years old, but stubbornly did not want to learn XYZ and was once convinced that he'd be fine with A through W. As a child, JC could often be found surrounded by piles of books he has read.

Council Member Kim [0:37:34]
Resolution 26-1493: Proclaiming September 2nd, 2026 as JC Johnson Becker Day

All of this work was pulled off I believe during a time when there wasn't the legislative aid available or you know in in your office. Um, and so JC, it just really speaks volumes about the the workload you can carry, your commitment, your passion to the work here, and I'm just truly in awe um of everything that happened at the state of the youth address.

Vice President Yang [0:40:54]
Resolution 26-1493: Proclaiming September 2nd, 2026 as JC Johnson Becker Day

Uh you could not forfeit any additional money of course just taking no action. You could modify uh to forfeit less less frequently than once a month. Uh you could also instead of doing a forfeite of the existing performance deposit require that additional performance deposit be posted and um in a case like this were the council to choose a path like that, I would say no less than $10,000.

Miss Mormon [0:53:08]
Legislative Hearing: Resolution RLHRR26-16 Amending Abatement Order for 947 Fremont Avenue

So to forfeit the current perform I want to make sure I'm stating the resolution the motion to forfeit the current performance deposit and of is that 5,000 the the 10,000 there's 15,000 posted now. You have already forfeited five a month ago. And so you're dealing with what the balance is and whether to forfeit and in what amount at what rate. So to forfeit the remaining 10,000 every 45 days at an amount of Yes. Till the work is complete.

Council Member Johnson [0:55:54]
Legislative Hearing: Resolution RLHRR26-16 Amending Abatement Order for 947 Fremont Avenue

The police did indicate and um the referral says the female is living in her home alone with stage four cancer. She has black mold covering her basement and her sewage no longer works. Non-livable and unsafe conditions. She can't afford to fix her plumbing and hasn't been able to flush for weeks.

Miss Mormon [0:58:34]
Legislative Hearing: RHTA26-158 Ratifying Appealed Special Tax Assessment for 777 Ohio Street

I respectfully dispute these charges because I have evidence showing the work being built. I have documentation and evidence supporting my position, including photos, videos, and invoices from a separate licensed and insured plumber who inspected and performed necessary plumbing work shortly after my mother had passed. The evidence shows that other than install installation of the new pipe, the work the city claimed to have completed was either not performed or not necessary.

Jessica Classen [1:02:40]
Legislative Hearing: RHTA26-158 Ratifying Appealed Special Tax Assessment for 777 Ohio Street

There's two charges on the bill. One for digging, one for jetting the pipe. They never did the digging. So, we're not disputing the whole bill. It's just the part where they said they dug it up and replaced the pipe, but they never replaced. And they also claim on the receipts that there's a threemonth warranty. We were calling in May. They did the work in April. Nobody would ever come out to actually warranty it, come look at it. Vicki was in the hospital for 3 weeks. Came home. The whole basement was still flooded.

Adam Lynn [1:04:36]
Legislative Hearing: RHTA26-158 Ratifying Appealed Special Tax Assessment for 777 Ohio Street

Ordinances & Resolutions (28)

Resolution 26-1544Resolution

Appointing the Public Rights Project as special counsel for federal litigation.

Resolution 26-1399Resolution

Authorizing the police department to apply for a US Department of Justice microgrants program for drone expansion.

Resolution 26-1492Resolution

Appointing Karen Dennis as communications lead, Reggie Evans as reparations legislative aid, and Joanna Zimnney as legislative hearing officer.

Staff Report 26-186Other

Staff report on the inaugural 'State of our Youth Address'.

Resolution 26-1493Resolution

Proclaiming September 2nd, 2026 as JC Johnson Becker Day in the City of St. Paul.

Resolution 26-210Resolution

Approving a sound level variance for University of St. Thomas's Tommy Fest homecoming event.

Resolution 26-27Resolution

Approving a sound level variance for University of St. Thomas's Creton Durham Hall football events.

Resolution 26-221Resolution

Approving a sound level variance for Anderson race management's 'Walk for Water' event.

Resolution 26-222Resolution

Amending the spending plan in the fire department public safety aid projects.

Resolution 26-236Resolution

Amending fire department financing and spending plans for firefighter training contribution.

Resolution 26-237Resolution

Amending fire department financing and spending plans for trailer sale proceeds.

Resolution 26-238Resolution

Amending fire department financing and spending plans for land sale proceeds.

RLHRR26-16Resolution

Amending and making findings on an appealed substantial abatement order for 947 Fremont Avenue.

Council RH25-34Other

Previous council record related to the abatement order for 947 Fremont Avenue.

RHTA26-158Resolution

Ratifying an appealed special tax assessment for property at 777 Ohio Street.

CPD microrants programGrant

A specific microgrants program from the US Department of Justice, aimed at community policing development.

DDP drone programProgram

The police department's existing drone program.

Axon platformOther

The data management system used by the police department for body cameras, in-car cameras, tasers, and drone data.

Skyo contractContract

A contract with Skyo, an Axon company, for drone technology.

Flock resolutionResolution

A past resolution passed by the council in opposition to the use of Flock cameras.

Right Track programProgram

The city of St. Paul's youth employment training program.

St. Paul Planning CommissionCommission

A city commission on which JC Johnson Becker serves as a commissioner.

CARES unitUnit

Community Alternative Response Emergency Care Services unit within the St. Paul Fire Department.

Ramsey Action ProgramsOrganization

An organization mentioned in connection with assistance for the owner of 777 Ohio Street.

Department of Safety and InspectionsDepartment

City department involved in assessing dangerous property conditions and coordinating abatement.

Minnesota Board of Firefighter Training and EducationBoard

Contributor of funds for firefighter training.

Mong American PartnershipOrganization

Host of a back to school backpack giveaway event.

JP Morgan ChaseOrganization

Co-host of a back to school backpack giveaway event.

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