All right, call the meeting to order. It was uh 6:03, something like that. >> 6:02. >> Perfect. All right, pledge. >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Play ball. >> Play ball. All right. Uh any changes to the agenda? >> No, Mr. Chair. >> Thank you. Uh could I get a motion to approve the agenda this evening? >> So moved. >> Second. >> All right. Do we have that? You need to take notes. Paul. Paul. Um >> If you can just say who, Brandon will pull it off the video. >> Um Oh my gosh. >> Andy. >> Andy, thank you, Andy. Jesus. >> [laughter] >> I just like >> [laughter] >> All right. Any public comment out there tonight? Nothing out there tonight. I didn't hear anything. Okay. Uh approval of the minutes from June 10th. Motion. >> I'll motion. >> Angela. >> Second. >> Paul. On favor? I. >> [laughter] >> Andrew. Second. >> What? >> Andrew seconded it. >> [laughter] >> You didn't even have that, man. >> I am extremely tired. >> So we're going to get this done quickly so you [clears throat] can go home, huh? >> Exactly. Um community garden discussion. >> So this is an item that's come up to the commission before previously. You will recall that we had a resident that came in and asked the city to consider establishing a community garden. Um at that time uh the commission had indicated that you were open to it and directed um staff to look at the issue, pros and cons, and potential sites for the garden. Um Brandon had prepared a report um for your benefit. Uh he had identified a couple sites that appear to be um you know, feasible, meaning that city owns the property, it's in a location that's accessible. They both have pros and cons. Um I'm going to skip going into the details of the sites and just go straight to the larger the high-level question is whether or not the city wants to pursue community gardens. Um with community gardens, there's a number of considerations and there are characteristics of community gardens that are successful. Um one is that you have a good location. Good location's considered to be an area that's reasonably um fertile or where you can put beds that are um fertile, that it's accessible, that it has water availability, that it has parking available for others, that it's in a location that also does not create a conflict with the uses around it, whether it be residential, commercial, parks, whatever. Um the other thing that is uh consistent with um is that there is funding for them. There is a cost to set them up and there is some cost for maintenance of it, whether it's the city or a nonprofit organization that adopts it or has been established in order to run it. The other thing is that successful community gardens are run by the people that utilize them. Usually that's some form of a nonprofit organization, and so that requires a level of grassroots support and enough interest and quite honestly bodies and resources to make it sustainable um over time. Um in this particular situation, um while community gardens can provide social benefits. Um, especially in communities that have denser housing where people don't have yards or places where they can grow fresh produce on their own. Um, the reality is that most of our community, we don't have a lot of that actual housing in town at this point in time. It's mostly single family and most people have the ability to do a garden, whether it's container garden, in ground, or raised bed garden on their own property. The other thing is that um, aside from this one individual, the only individual in any sort of recent history that has come up and made the request. So, there does not appear to appear to be a broader request or desire within the community, nor uh, individuals committed to the success of the endeavor, which means that it would fall back onto the city. Um, two, we don't have any funding specifically identified for it. And the sites that we do that might be workable are sites where it would be possibly an interim use, um, before it gets used for um, other purposes. There's also the issue of staff bandwidth. Even if you have another organization that's running it, there is time and resources that are required on the part of staff to help ensure the success, act as liaison, coordinate, and in this case, since we don't have them, the initial getting it set up, whether it's um, staff within community development or staff within public works, um, to work on that. Brandon provided more detail about the sites and costs associated with it. But the staff recommendation is that while in the future future, this is something we should not let go and should revisit in the future. At this point in time, staff would recommend that we don't pursue it. The commission's being asked to provide a recommendation on whether, basically decide whether this goes on to the council at this point for council consideration. If you the council's aware of it, they're aware that if you guys, um, don't think it's worthy to move on, they know that, so. >> Any comments? >> Well, we had the discussion I thought in detail at the last meeting and I shared with the commission some of the um pros and cons that I've been through because I've been with Minneapolis Park where where where we had um large large huge community gardens, you know, they were plotted out so that neighborhoods had a lot of problems with vandalism. We had a lot of problems with animals and which in turn we put up 8-ft fences to keep the deer out. This is up at Theodore Wirth. So, it's a uh keep the deer out and nothing kept the rabbits out and it was a a neat idea because individual parks um would have their own little plot there where they could grow it and watch it grow. And so, it was a very educational tool more than a assistance type of things. But, there were a lot of issues. Um unfortunately, when the deer after everything was kind of established and the fences were up and everything was going well, somebody came in and s- literally stole all the vegetables. Everything that was in at harvest time, about this time of year, stripped almost everything that was there that the kids had grown. So, that's my background in them. And then the other one is the I think I mentioned our church Holy Trinity in New Prague has one which is sponsored by the I believe it's the Lions Club. And they spent a lot of money and they were all accessible all of the gardens. So, they were actually up on on uh well, I would say accessibility height, you know, so wheelchairs or or senior citizens could go in there and work the gardens and they ran into problems because they didn't have water there. So, then they spent a lot of money to go pipe in water. And um I don't know. I think we showed pictures of that last the last meeting. And so, there's fences. It's gated. It's very nice. There's picnic tables. But then when I talked to the people in the church um about the gardens, it's been there for I think 8 to 10 years. And she says what's happened over the years is there's mainly four people that go in there and do the maintenance, four volunteers, where everybody else has just kind of come planted things and go away. But there's a lot more maintenance other than just planting the garden and going in and harvesting. So, it's a great idea. And but there's a lot of ifs to have to consider before you would do that. And they have to have accessibility. So, it's got to be wheelchair accessible. And um Tom mentioned uh parking, you know, is an issue. And I think, you know, I think it's a great idea. But I think you almost have to have somebody that would get behind it like the Lions Club or somebody that's going to contribute some money. I'm I'm assuming and they took a guess that it was almost $80,000 to build their stands and put the fence around this thing and and had and put the gravel in and all the other things that they needed to do with the water and and things. So, um Yeah, there's the pros and cons. But right now there's more um cons I think facing us than there are pros in in in doing this. And so, there are again without going too much further, I'm not I don't think it's a good idea at this time um for us to get involved. We got a lot so much other things that we have to think about. But as far as people wanting to use part of the park land as part of their backyard to grow garden, I would absolutely say not. That's kind of an infraction on our rules. I would almost I would almost guess so. I can't say that I would be in favor of. I can't remember if Prior Lake, I don't think we had community gardens there. >> Oh, it all started when I was there. So, I've been in it from the very beginning. But we had quite a few residents coming forward. Um like you said, I mean we had a a lot of interest cuz there were more apartment buildings, more senior complexes built as time went on. Um so, we did start it and we tried to model it after some of them in Minneapolis that were more successful. But I will say in the beginning the public works department did all the heavy lifting and still to this day still does a lot of it. >> Yeah. >> Um just keeping up the weeds around it, the and we couldn't afford the city couldn't afford the money to put an 8-ft fence. So, yes, there were deer coming in. Each gardener could put their own smaller fence around. But then we had people that were trying to garden into the next plot and we even had STS come out and do um chip trails in there to help keep the weeds down. Um but it's still like your problem like four people would actually weed the other and every garden was reserved. But some people were better at keeping it up than others and we found a lot of people who wanted to try it for fun. So, as a city we would have meetings and bring gardeners in to teach them so to speak. So, there there's just so much on the front end and it and it still keeps going and unless like you said we had someone a nonprofit take it from the beginning. I think the city, I mean your department, you you there's just no way you could keep that up. >> to handle them. >> And just to prep the soil cuz we had to, you know, till it and then bring in compost and you know, we they even tested the soil and they did all the nine yards for it. Um, and I agree with Paul. I mean, they're great. It's a good idea, but I think if we had more residents interested and if there was an organization that would take it over cuz you know, I was a full-time people I had for full-time person and I had an office full-time person and another part-timer. And that was like almost a full-time job when it was seasoned and getting it rented rented. So, I would agree I think we should wait on that. >> Yes. Well, well, in Minneapolis I actually had a horticulture uh division that worked for me for me and so we had a half a dozen full-time people that just all they did was horticulture, but their their main emphasis and they they were the ones that kind of had to oversee this thing and then just really took a lot of work for them to take care of the gardens where they should be taken care of. Well, you've seen the rose gardens and all of the all of the beautiful gardens that are in Minneapolis. That was their main focus, but they they really kind of balked at that taking that. They were hoping for more volunteers, but that that just did not happen. They would they come out strong to begin with and then they they they phased out. >> Yes. >> And then um, I just want to mention as a side note I volunteer at the food shelf and there's a couple ladies there have asked if we have a garden club. And garden clubs that can be very successful and um, um, Burnsville they had one that was on Nicollet Avenue not far from City Hall that they came in and they and they around that fountain there on Nicollet Avenue they came in and just they were a hosta club. So, all they did is plant hostas all around this area so the hostas are beautiful plants that are very easy to maintain and manage and it's So, those, you know, garden clubs can be probably more successful in trying to plant vegetables, you know. >> Um yeah, and staff believe this is an item that as we move forward like the nature of the community changes, if there's more um residents that are looking for it, this is something that we shouldn't just permanently shelf, but at this point in time Um and then the other thing with regards to it, just speaking to people that are asking, so the Lions actually maintain that garden down on Webster Street in two and in recent discussions with them, they've talked about how they're having to scale that back and going to have to rework it because they don't have the resources from a volunteer and financial standpoint to even maintain that at the scale that it is. But at the same time, if there's people that want to help with downtown beautification, the Lions would love to have volunteers to assist with that and they're getting ready to rework it into something that's a little more sustainable um and manageable. >> I actually saw something, I think it was on our Facebook page for the city that the Lions Club is looking for members. >> Um was it on It wasn't on the city site, but probably on one of the community wire clubs. They are looking for it. Um they've gone from what was a fairly static membership in the 50s down to like 35 people, so they've seen a decline in their membership, so they're really looking to bring folks in. They do a lot of really good work in the community. Um but they have seen a decline in their membership and the amount of volunteerism that they have in their membership, so >> Okay. Interesting. I didn't know that there was a garden aspect to the Lions Club site. >> Just that particular park when it was established back in 2018. 18. >> Before me. >> I think 18. >> They uh it's in county right-of-way, so the city had to act as the sponsor for the right-of-way application to the county. And um as part of that since we're responsible there was an there was a formal agreement or a letter of understanding that they would be fully responsible for the for the establishment, maintenance, ongoing maintenance of the the garden. And what they found is just over time um they are having troubles maintaining it at the scale that it's at and they're looking for and they're they're in the currently in the process of reevaluating what they need to do with it so that they can continue to sustain that going forward. >> Yeah, okay. Interesting. >> Do you need a motion now? >> On this one we'd want a motion. >> I'll motion to um >> Table. >> Put the community garden discussion further down the road if >> Table it until future time. >> So, yeah. >> Second. Okay. All in favor? >> I. >> I. >> Um Updates? >> Updates? >> Um July parks? >> Um we don't really have a whole lot, just our regular maintenance. T-ball's done, so just >> Uh Brandon mentioned that um uh I don't know if you're in the meeting, but Corey and him met with >> Uh yep. >> to Reed from Tamarack to work on the Highlands Park and coordinating the work that the developers are responsible for with the work that the city's responsible for. Right now it's my understanding that it's looking probable that they'll be able to get the park in this year at this point. So. That was that was as of earlier in the week, so. >> Yep. >> Wow. They must have come a long ways in just a couple of months then cuz it was pretty much bare ground here not long >> It's still bare ground, but they have kind of a a schedule set for when path and curb and everything's going to go in so that It's going to be nip and tuck though. >> Yeah, it's going to be tight whether we can get it done this year, the way it sounds. >> Well, well, at least it's moving along. That's good. Question I was trying to look on the website uh for the Didn't we used to have pictures of all the parks on the website? I thought we used to. >> I remember we had a template that had like a an informational piece on each of the parks. I I can't answer where that is currently >> Got you. >> at, so >> Somebody asked at the elections yesterday and I said, "Oh, yeah, all there's pictures of all the parks on there." And I was trying to look and I'm like, there isn't. >> You sure they weren't talking about all of the parks we currently have? >> Yeah, there I didn't see I couldn't find pictures on there of like the play structures or >> Of all the parks that we currently have or the newer ones that are coming? >> the picture was just a representative if I remember what you're talking about, but I can't remember if it was a promotional piece or if it was the website and it was just a single promotional picture. >> Picture of something. >> is a pretty picture of this park from a pretty angle type of thing. It was a singular picture if I recall correctly. >> For all of them? >> For Yeah, one for each, yeah. >> Got you. I thought we did at one point. >> I think there is. >> I think you're right. Hm. I'll have to look. >> I'll I'll look it up while you guys are doing other business. >> [laughter] >> I was trying to look it up yesterday at the election and I couldn't find so. >> Um financial report is in your packets. If you have any questions. >> We have no money. >> [laughter] >> We're broke. It's a joke we're there. >> Uh >> Pete's Hill. >> Pete's Hill, so Paul can expand on it, but basically Paul's um proposing to the commission that we install um uh uh you might say a monument sign recognizing the geo marker that is actually at the top of Pete's Hill. You guys have all seen it when you've been up there. Um a sample of the sign that's proposed is in your packet. And the cost of installing, by the time that we, you know, buy the sign, get the post, install it, is a few hundred bucks. Probably not more than 500. That's probably >> That'd be real steep. Uh the sign itself is $60. >> Yeah, it's not I talked with Brandon. He's like, I wanted to make sure that I didn't understate it. So >> I told Brandon that I told him it's $60. So if you want to throw in labor and and a post. >> It's going to be closer to the 200. So from a It's not a It's not a budgetary um concern. So the question is really if you guys want to do it. >> But it wasn't It wasn't necessarily my um I just kind of got the responsibility about 2 or 3 years ago, maybe 3 years ago. And somebody brought up the idea that it is the highest elevation in the in the county. And so I said, "Well, that'd be that'd be neat." Cuz we're also talking about an informational sign about Pete's Hill. And I think we just talked about, "Well, that is the highest point." Cuz we were talking about the flag at that time and all kinds of things. >> Yeah. >> And somebody mentioned that it is. I said, "That'd be cool." And I went up and I found the the uh monument that was placed there. You see it in your packet in 1927 or something like that that they It was and it took me a long time to find somebody in the county that knew what the elevation was and when that was taken. I I went through 10 different I got the We call We used to call them the government shuffle, but I got the shuffle real good and I was passed back and forth a number of times before I finally got one person that was in the did the survey and then worked for an engineering department and he'd spent a little time and looked it up. So, that's where where the information came from. So, the information is accurate and if you haven't been up on top of Pease Hill, you'll see the concrete post that sticks up it's very substantially in the ground with a little metal marker on the top. But, the metal marker doesn't say anything except the survey would know what that metal marker meant. >> Right. >> You know, so it was triangulated up there and you'll see another one down the hill a little ways, but that's the triangulation they took to find that elevation. So, I learned a lot about surveying those types of monuments. >> Yeah, and I found a website and a couple weeks ago they had like the survey history of you could look up any survey marker anywhere in the country and it would tell you the history of all the different elevation measurements that have been taken there and stuff. >> It's really interesting stuff. I think the highest mark I think Buck Hill is the highest in this. >> so I I was looking at something I thought Buck Hill was actually like 10 ft shorter than Pease Hill. >> Oh, did it? >> Yeah, and I think it was on one of the GIS maps like through the city or the county or something I was looking at and it yeah, it had a little triangle where all the different peaks are and like high points or whatever and I want to say Buck Hill was a little just a little bit shorter than Pease Hill was. >> The one that guy got was not even a employee. He was some guy that worked years and years ago and was talking about all of the rods that they used to measure and stuff. Like it I totally lost me, but he had me on the phone for a half an hour explaining all those elevations and the river, you know, is at the zero elevation and uh he thought Buck's Buck Hill was the point that they took off of to find all of the other points. So, it was educational for me anyway at this age, what the hell. Doesn't hurt >> [laughter] >> learn something something new. >> Who who did the flag up there? >> Uh the flag up there has been there for decades. Um it was originally done by uh local residents and then a number of years >> Tin first, is that? I think I was told it was like a >> There's a There's a history on it. Originally it was uh USA and like blocks or rocks and then um then it might have been tin or other materials and at one point somebody poured a concrete slab and painted it. And then uh previous parks commissioner, previous council member uh Dennis Melgard a number of years ago said we should clean it up. So we initially got it cleaned up. We got a local veterans owned um company to come in and they just cleaned it up and repainted it and then since then public works has been refreshing it every every few years. So >> Yeah. Yeah, cuz we we went out we tried to find a contractor painting contractor. I I I just happened to run into him when I was up there and he was and it was astronomical. So thank you for the public works department, maintenance department. They went up and painted it and uh actually one of our neighbors up there, she was going to start painting it a couple years ago and somebody stopped her said no don't do that. Yeah, so yeah. It's pretty cool though. But then the the the discussion a couple years ago two three years ago also was people used to be able to see it from Xerxes. They could drive by and see it. But now it's grown I mean beautiful big trees and a lot of uh trees have grown up so you're not going to see it from there. So we decided at that point remember not to do cutting any We're not cutting any trees down. So somebody can get a glimpse at it. So yeah the uh mosquito control guys can see it well from the helicopter. >> [laughter] >> If you're in an ambulance look out the window. Yeah, it's pretty cool though. But they they hauled that stuff by hand I think that concrete up there. I don't think they had a uh any kind of machinery that could go up there and uh >> I don't I >> don't know. I think they At the best they probably had a They hauled everything up by hand and maybe had a cement mixer, you know, the old stuff. But it's uh pretty cool. >> So, I guess the the question of the commission is do you want to install said sign or not? >> Oh, we're back to this this sign. >> Yeah, that's right. >> [laughter] >> I'm worried about the cost. If they wave the post hole driver sitting out, I'll go up and just do it one night when nobody's looking. >> [laughter] >> Yeah, I've got a post driver also. I could follow along. Yeah. >> [laughter] >> Yeah. >> And so, a motion to move ahead with purchasing uh >> I better make that motion. So moved. Yeah. >> Second. >> There was one just one uh issue on there and and um >> Before you say >> Would you >> I'm not Let me Let me get my thoughts together before I say anything. >> Can I just pass the motion? >> Oh, yeah. >> All in favor? >> I. >> I. >> Any discussion? So, Derek was um he and I have been talking about this a little bit too. And so, I've brought I'd hate to think how many signs that I've had made over my career. Hundreds. And some of them these signs are pre-drilled. So, some of the signs that I made, all of a sudden the dang bolt and washer went right through. And I think it's even on our wetland signs by my house. The bolt and the and the washer was right on top of the lettering on the sign. So, it covered up I actually I think I had one in one of my cities where it made turn one word into a kind of a profane word. So, but anyway, the um Um, there will be one two bolts holding it up in the sign, but one of one Derek and I already talked about that that the one that would be hitting one of the words Derek said we could we can pre we can drill >> either redrill the hole >> Redrill the hole >> Or we can move the logo to the corner. >> Well, the Um, Brandon I already talked about moving the logo and Brandon was really in favor of keeping the logo in the middle. So was I cuz it seems a little bigger and it's you can see it on the sign that it's here. So you get to drill a hole. >> I then that's fine. I can >> I got a drill press I can do that. >> We'll get it installed so. >> Okay. >> But but anyway, the the vinyl on the outside of the sign will cover the hole that we don't use. >> Yep. >> So it it works. It works. Trust me. >> I trust you guys. >> Trust trust me. Yeah, trust. >> Never trust anybody who says trust me. >> I know. I know. I know. >> So circling back to the previous discussion, um, the the flyers are in there. They're PDFs. When you go to the parks and recreation page on the city's website on the right-hand side there is a link to an like a information brochure like this for each of the existing city parks. >> Is there any Do we have any in there now for the new one? >> For Highlands, no. >> No, not Highlands. Uh >> Boulder. >> Boulder. >> Boulder Heights. >> Is there Boulder Heights in? >> Um, I do not know. Off the top of my head I can tell you in 1 minute. >> There's still a picnic facility at Pigtail. >> The what? >> There's still a picnic facility according I think it shows on the flyer. >> [laughter] >> Well, that's a good point. And I wasn't going to bring it up. I wasn't going to bring it up, but just about every one of our park descriptions said there's a picnic facility there. And there's not picnic tables at >> No, it's it's actually been discussed with staff that this whole portion of the website needs to be updated. And I'll be honest, it's quite honestly a triage and bandwidth issue. >> [laughter] >> But, it does it really does need to be updated, but this isn't to be fair, this isn't the only portion of the city website that probably needs a little bit of refreshing. >> Something to project for Paul. >> [laughter] >> Um we actually skipping ahead, a quick update. Um we just had a new um utility billing administrative technician uh start on Monday, Stacy Hand. Um so uh this uh the maintenance of the website will fall under her duties. So, one of her projects as she gets trained up and uh with other core duties, one of her background or additional hats she's going to wear is going to be maintenance of the maintenance of the website. >> So, what is What is our office staff here now then? Ty is finance. And then the new Stephanie. The new staff. >> Yep. >> And then this will will be an another person. >> Stacy, yep. And then we have Kelly who's the >> And Kelly. >> And Kelly. And then in community development, we have Brandon and Renee, and we're still over a year in trying to fill the community development director position. So. >> Is it all it's community development director, not just a planner then? >> We started out as a senior planner, and our pools were incredibly small and not good. >> Isn't that funny? >> So, we um and at that time the plan was that we were going to hire senior planner. Renee had enough runway left in her career that she would be able to work with that person and possibly grow them into a community development director. >> Nice. >> But, after trying to hire for that position, not being successful with what was out there on the market, and with Renee's runway inevitably getting constantly shorter, uh the decision was to um modify or might say upgrade it into a community development director position for success planning purposes and also with the idea that if it's higher paying position we might be able to shake the tree and get a better pool. Um, we've been unsuccessful so I'm actually going to the council at the first council meeting and um, >> September? >> Actually no, later uh, at the second meeting this month and I'll be asking them to authorize uh, recruit utilizing a head hunter to try and improve the applicant pool. >> You know, and years ago planners were all over the place. I mean there was a lot of planners out there years ago and that's the ones that I know are the friends of mine. You probably remember Jenny from Yeah, they went to the private sector. They're all working for our engineering company. Some of the ones that I know that were Yeah, so >> [clears throat] >> Yeah, and uh, when I spoke with the I anecdotally knew that that was a difficult position and when I spoke to the head hunter they confirmed that the three toughest positions to hire for in cities right now is senior community development staff, senior finance staff and city engineers. >> Yeah. >> More than cops, more than anything else and part of the reason is what Paul indicated is one you're for there's less people beyond there's less people coming into the field than there used to be. Um, places are continuing to grow and the demand is greater. Uh, three my personal opinion the the nature experience of the individuals that are coming out of those programs today are not what they were two plus decades ago. Um, and that's based on my experience interviewing and reviewing candidates and people newly coming out of school. And then the third reason is the fact that unlike most other city positions um, you have a limited pool and now you're competing with the private sector who want to hire the same people to be consultants and so it's it's difficult especially if they're and that's why it's harder at the higher levels because once you have somebody that it's experienced planner the planning firms or the firms that offer planning services they want to recruit those people cuz they can bill them out at a high level um and then also same with like finance people you know uh your financial consulting firms that provide finance services are looking to recruit them city engineers as well same reasons so our plan is to improve the pool size um honestly if we go out and um we're already doing things to pivot right now so we're already looking at projects like the comp plan update and things like that um if we're unable to recruit somebody this time going out uh we're probably going to have to look at fully consulting that out for this upcoming comp plan cycle which will be very expensive but we won't have a choice we're statutorily required to do that um and our bandwidth internally is being entirely to day-to-day planning related items um and then for other things that we can consult out we would go to consulting and I would probably have to take a stronger role within the community development department to get us into a sustainable interim situation uh while we continue to try and recruit for that position so >> So that's a staffing >> update >> [laughter] >> Well they're always saying that the younger generation's got to start looking at other types of jobs rather than IT and I >> Yeah I >> Yeah I and but that's >> Yeah can't we just have chat GPT do it for us? >> It's a tool you still need the guy that you still need the guy that turns the wrench even though wrenches are useful tools so >> Did really good on our New York trip Planned out our whole trip, man. I mean, nailed it. It was good. >> And we we are increasingly utilizing AI in day-to-day operations to save time, you know, improve efficiencies, but you still need the end operator. Um any questions on anything else city related? >> Why is the Why is the Peach Hill water tower leaking? I that was my I got I got that I don't know how many times. >> Is it because it's dripping cuz it's you know, the condensation? >> Yeah, I had to explain that I don't know how many times. I cuz I couldn't remember what the temperature of the water is that's up there. Is it >> Like 54? >> 50 something 50 something and it's 95 out, so Yeah. Water tower's leaking. >> when it gets humid, we get the question there because of the trail and the temperature >> Oh, I was standing underneath it and I got a kind of shower got >> Speaking of water towers, I got some questions about >> [laughter] >> No, no, no, all right. Please. Please. Oh, fine. >> So, you want to have any other questions related to the city, parks? Nothing? All right. >> About about city issues, though? >> Well, I >> Or anything? >> Well, I don't know if we want We can You can have that discussion maybe. Or >> Well, no, I just want to I heard heard that the city council had approved and they're going to put in a distribution center in on Main Street for marijuana and marijuana products. Is that true? >> Um >> That little greenhouse that you I I saw that probably on a Facebook thing, too. >> We have had inquiries for um retail sales locations. I am not sure of the status of any specific applications and we don't approve them. They can occur by We don't have the ability to deny them. Um >> Really? >> No, the state took almost all local >> True. authority away related to those types of facilities. We can say where they are. Um we can require a local license related to them, but we cannot deny them and we have to and there are statutory limits on how much you reasonably can. >> There was a picture in one of the Facebook's must be I must be looking at the city not the city >> Yeah, you're probably on like the >> And it showed that little it showed that little house that little green house in in town that was going to be the new I got to know where to go, you know. No, I I can't >> [laughter] >> Stop at QuickTrip. Get a couple of drinks, THC drinks, and a bowl. >> I just I just it kind of shocked me that there was going to be allowed. >> That would be a question for Brandon. He's the person in our office that would handle all of the um processing related to uh a new facility like that. >> you answered my question that the city has to allow it. It's state mandated. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah, there there are limitations. You have to allow at least a minimum of so many per population for your community. It gets a little complicated cuz it also gets to how many in your county, blah blah blah blah, but um long and short our council has indicated that they are considered another retail use can locate in the same areas as other retail type establishments. We can't prohibit them. They have to be licensed through the state and we can require a local license, but we cannot deny deny their entry into the community. >> Can we require any park tax sale on any of the other sales? >> Uh that would be local sales tax. It'd be special legislation fall. >> [laughter] >> We could get a piece of the action or at least a product. Oops. >> [laughter] >> Just go in and flash your parks vice commissioner badge and say, "Hey, I got to inspect this stuff." >> Yeah, really. [laughter] Yeah. >> Any other questions of a city nature? >> All right. Question to adjourn then? >> I motion. >> Second. >> Uh all in favor? >> I.