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Scott County Board of Commissioners January 6th 2026

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Yeah, I didn't know he was that well. Will >> you Will you be rushing to change into your outfit to do something? >> Yes. Yes. >> I mean, I did Christmas. I did an outfit. >> You did. You did. And And rocked it. Rocked it. >> Dave, weren't you? Weren't you supposed to have >> That's what he was just saying. >> Join. >> What's that? >> The live stream. This would have been the year that >> Oh, live stream is on. >> Okay. >> Put this like right here. Good morning. We are going to convene the January 6th, 2026 Scott County Board of Commissioners annual meeting. Would you please rise and join me for the pledge? I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you so very much. We're going to have uh uh normally we'd have interested citizens right after this, which I'm going to make that amendment to the agenda to move recognition of interest interested citizens uh next on the agenda. So if we're making this amendment, I think we need to have a Is there a motion to do that? >> Yep. I'll move the agenda as amended. >> Second. >> Uh any discussion? Otherwise, all in favor say I. >> I. >> I. All right. We are going to move to recognition of interested citizens. This is uh one of my favorite times. Uh gives uh anybody access to come up and talk to the board about anything that is not on the agenda for up to 5 minutes. So, I see we have a taker, Leslie Vermillion, County Administrator. Good morning. Happy New Year. Welcome. >> Well, happy new year. And yes, I am an interested citizen this morning. So, thank you. Um, I'd like to recognize Commissioner Olrich this morning. Um, he has been recognized for 25 years of dedicated support to the Scott County Board of Commissioners. He began his term on January 2nd, 2001. Um, as of January 2nd this year, that was 25 years of service to the Scott County Board. And so, it is an honor for Commissioner Beer as chair of the Scott County Board of Commissioners to present this certificate of merit and appreciation to Commissioner Jonathan Olrich. Yeah, I feel like uh are we good? We're going to do a little >> We need to have a picture of >> Yeah, we need to have a picture. But before before we do that, I I remember I was first uh I'm trying to remember. I think I had must have been elected and I got a call um from from a certain someone who just got a certificate. Hey, sort of reluctant, maybe a little bit, not really, but uh won't you meet me up at the Starbucks and let let's chitchat a little bit? Like, okay, let's do this. cuz I mean this guy was a fixture a fixture even then in Scott County. I'm like okay let this is this is this is on and so I've appreciated your your wisdom. I' I've most recently certainly appreciated his fashion sense um up here on the county board if you saw the last meeting. Um, and supposedly someone had said that the uh someone with a 25-year service on the county board that could potentially be chair. We'll find out in a moment. Is also maybe a a Aztec dancing participant for the day. I'm not sure. We'll deal we'll deal with that. We'll check the bylaws on that a little bit later. >> That's the outgoing chair. >> Um, so let's let's get a picture. Let's get a picture. This is coming from the whole board. So, >> it's from the county board. >> It's from all of us. We got We got to We got to autograph this thing. There's not enough lines on this. >> 25 years. That was tricky. >> It's impressive. It's impressive. >> I mean, there's a good chance we may be hearing from him here shortly, but is there anything else you want to say for this 25 years? Well, there was one thing I I told the new employees that was kind of funny is that uh when I was being considered to be in the rotation to be chair, you know, they do vice chair and then chair. So, that kind of is the rotation. They they were strong debate whether I should be a vice chair because they weren't sure that I was going to hang around very long. So, I guess I have hung around a little bit. uh >> I've enjoyed it and thank you >> a lot of a lot of good institutional knowledge, a lot of good wisdom there. So, thank you for the service for the for your service to the folks fine folks here at Scott County. So, thank you. Um that is going to move us any anyone else before we move on. >> Said it well. >> Yeah. >> All right. We're going to be hearing more from him. So, we're going to move to item number 2.1 uh for the reorganization for 2026. 2.1 is uh I'll entertain and open nominations uh for the election of chair for 2026. >> Mr. Chair, I'll nominate Commissioner Oric. >> I'll second. >> All right, we have a nomination in a second. Uh and just procedurally, I'm going to ask for any other nominations. Any other nominations? Any other nominations? Otherwise, any further discussion? >> I had a long I had a big thing to say, but it was already said, so impressive. Impressive. All right. Uh, all in favor say I. >> I. >> I. >> All right. We have a new chair. Do I have to g that in and make it official? Are we going to do a little little shuffle here? >> We do a shuffle cuz you're now chair. >> Oh, no. No. We're We're >> We're We're Okay. After this. All right. >> But you should take this gavlage on the chair. >> You are the chair. Let's just make it. Let's just >> Okay. Just Just throw it from right here. >> Throw them both at the same time. >> All right. We're on to item 2.2, which be uh nominations for vice chair. Do we have nomination for vice chair? >> Mr. Chair, I'd like to nominate Commissioner Jodie Brennan for vice chair. And I didn't write a long speech, but hopefully you feel it. >> Uh we have a motion and a second. Are there any other nominations? Are there any other nominations? Are there any other nominations? All those in favor say I. >> I. >> Oppos. Motion carries. We have a new chair and vice chair and uh I think I'll just conduct here until we may uh shift around uh a little later in the meeting here. Um item four uh is the uh gee I could move amendments agenda. I could move everything up so you would have to keep doing this. >> No. >> Then item four is approve the minutes. Do we have a motion to approve the December 6th? >> So moved. >> We have a motion. Do we have a second? >> Second. >> Motion to second. Any discussion? All those in favor say I. >> I. >> I. >> Opposed. Motion carries. Item five is new employees. We had the honor and privilege of meeting with new employees this morning before the meeting started and they told us a little about their story and we told them a little bit about Scott County and they're here now and u they're going to come up and say their their name and where they work and maybe an interesting fact about something about themselves that um just a little known fact. So if you would do employees just come on up all at once and kind of line up and this is just brief. Don't no pressure here. Uh Good morning. My name is Bailey Nelson. I'm a senior legal assistant in the county attorney's office. And a fun fact about me is I was a dancer for 10 years during my childhood. >> Oh. Oh, >> join those folks. >> I would say >> maybe I should have changed by fact. I think they'll stand me up. >> My name is Abdi. Um, I do child protection here at Scott County. And one interesting fact about me is I like to bake, but I hate cleaning. So I make my brothers do all the cleaning. So >> Hi, my name is Justa Hul. I work as an eligibility specialist in the income maintenance department. Fun fact is I had my first daughter um May 22nd. So really special. >> Hi, my name is Ashley Spore. I'm currently the supervisor of the children's um mental health case management team here at Scott County. So, I'm happy to be here. Um I also have two children um two under three. So, >> yeah, we're busy. >> We're busy. You know, one thing we shared with the new employees that I hope for them is that um this would be a great place to work that you'd find a a great environment where people are spurring each other on to great things to encouragement and and enjoyment and uh we wish the best for you and if there's anything you ever want to suggest to us to improve Scott County, the environment of working or whatever it is, we are we're always available. So, thank you and we welcome you to Scott County. We're glad you're here and have fun on the bus tour today. >> Yeah. Okay, we're on to consent agenda. These are um items that generally passes one motion. Many of them have been vetted prior in prior um contact with the board or or chair, vice chair, whatever, but they pass with one motion. And I'll read the consent agenda. 7.1 is to approve the 2026 county board meeting schedule. 7.2 is to adopt resolution 2026-1 adopting the 2026 Scott County Board of Commissioners operating rules and guidelines. 7.3 is to adopt resolution 2026-2 appointing commissioners and other county officials to boards and committees for 2026. 74 is adopt resolution 2026-3 approving a three-way three-year agreement with Law Enforcement Labor Services Inc. Sheriff's Essential Employee Correction Officers Unit. 7.5 is DOP resolution 2026-4 approving a three-way agreement with Scott County Attorneys Association. 7.6 is DOP resolution 2025-5 authorizing the use of the county's website as an alternative method to the official newspaper for transportation project solicitations. 7.7 adopt resolution number 2026-6 authorizing entering an agreement with the state of Minnesota Department of Transportation for the county highway 23 and 68 roundabout project 7.8 is adopt resolution number 2026-7 authorizing final payment to Eureka Construction Inc. for the county highway 69 and 78 roundabout project. Item 7.9 is DOP resolution 2026-8 authorizing entering an agreement with Great Lakes Management Company for services at Hopes Portage. 7.10 10 is DOT resolution number 2026-9 accepting assistance from and entering a grant agreement with the state of Minnesota for preparation of a county discretionary federal funding application for trunk highway 13 mobility impact project state highway project 070-589-00002 >> 7-Eleven is to adopt resolution number 2026-10 authorizing into an agreement with Bolton and Mink, Inc. for the Southwest Metro River Crossing Flood Resiliency Study. 7.12 is to adopt resolution number 2026-11 authorizing entering a cooperative agreement with Carver County for the Southwest Metro River Crossing Flood Resiliency Study. 7.13 is stop resolution number 2026-12 authorizing into amendment number one to the agreement with Goosebusters Inc. Limited 7.14 adopt resolution-2026-13 authorizing entering three joint powers agreements with the state of Minnesota Department of Public Safety Bureau of Criminal Apprehension for use of the state's criminal justice data communications network. 7.15 is reappoint of citizen to advisory committee. 7.16 is approve payroll processing of personnel actions. That's our consent agenda. Do we have a motion to approve the consent agenda? >> So moved. >> Second. >> We have a motion and a second. Any discussion? >> All those in favor say I. >> I. Opposed. Motion carries. We're on to item 8.1, which is the Aztec dance program that's been utilizing the link. and they want to say a thank you to the county board and we welcome them and I think Ela is gonna come up and speak to us after. >> Good morning. Can you believe it? It's been a year. It almost feels like blink of an eye. So fast, so quick. Um so this is um a moment that we want to take to appreciate all of you for allowing us to use this space. It means a lot. Um also a way of showing gratitude for everything that has been provided to us. As you all know it's not news that our community especially lately has been in fear and um it's not a good feeling. So um but this is not about that. It's mostly to say thank you and to stay in the spirit of gratitude. And um today I have some of the parents. Not all the children are able to be here. They were all excited to say something. Unfortunately, they are not able to come. They have to go to school, but some of them got special permission to be here. And they've been working on what to say because we talked about this during our practice. And I said, "These are things that they need to hear because it's so valuable to hear from the little ones, from moms, from parents that are um understanding what this means to to the community." So, from from me as an employee of Scott County, and I know the new employees just left, but I wish it would have stayed just a little bit more for me to say this is a great place to work, and I am I'm honored to be part of this great team. Um, and thankful as well to be able to use the space. Um Leslie has been the number one person along the way who in a walk all this just came about and she's the one that actually encouraged me and suggested for me to move forward with this. So thank you Leslie for being that person. And um if you haven't had breakfast, right, because as Latinos, as Mexicans, we're all about eating. So we we brought tamales. >> Yeah, me too. >> Very very delicious tamales this morning. They're warm. So feel free after the meeting or during we can you know there's tamales all you can eat. >> And um we also have one of our uh participants who has a business in Shakopi and she made this special um decorations for your cup holders or not to to place your cup. Um I don't know what they're called but she designed them uh from tra from our tradition from Aztec um images. So I hope that that you like them. They're from Vanelope Arts here in Shaki. she's unable to be here, but I am for sure making sure that you know where they come from. And I'm I'm gonna have one of the moms come um and um say some words. Thank you, Rosa. >> Good morning. My name is Rosa Garcia and um fun fact is I used to work here at Scott County Mental Health Center. um in for about 3 years um 2013 Terry Reddit was was my supervisor and it was amazing working here because I and it's not about Scott County but it is about Scott County equipped me to then launch on my own and build my own private practice as a mental health therapist and so thank you for the space that you provide because as a mother of three a mental health provider And um and then as a Mexican woman, it is awesome to find a space where we get to be physically fit. I get to learn more about my culture. I get to teach my children undercover because they're like, "Why, mom?" And I'm so it's like, "No, let's go be physically fit." So we come, we dance, and then in it they start embracing their culture that which is important to me. And um and with that same um physical activity, we also gathered more friends. So now my we call her better half or her other half. My daughter's um best friend was like, "What are you guys doing? We're bored. It's winter. It's like we're doing Astic dancing." So then they joined her, her mother. Um it became a whole family. Yeah. Grandmother, mother. It's just a whole family that joined out of my daughter being in aic dancing. Um, and initially it was for their physical fitness. Um, and then they start embracing what it really is to be a a dancer. And for me I am very grateful because during winter times a lot of families aren't able and I know this is this was a whole year but a lot of families are not able to um either enroll their kids into any sport. Sometime it's expensive. This is a free program which is probably the best part and we have a safe space during winter time because other times I'm from California um and I used to do this in California and so going to a park was easy any day of the year and here it's like what do we do? So this means a lot uh because we can't go to the park during October, right? And um so I appreciate that and thank you thank you Leslie for the the walk with Elba and for making this or initiating that or sparking that into Elba. So thank you. Thank you for your time. >> Good morning. My name is Evelyn Hassan and I want to express our heartfelt gratitude to you all for allowing us to use this space on Thursday nights. Your support has opened the door for something truly meaningful in our community. I'm not a dancer myself, but my six-year-old daughter, Ila, is, and I've seen firsthand the impact this space has had on her. When she first started, she was shy and unsure. Now, every Thursday, she walks in with confidence, pride, and excitement. She's learning discipline, teamwork, and courage. But she's also learning something even deeper. She's connecting with her Mexican culture in a way I could have only dreamed of. These traditions, these dances, these stories, they're a part of who we are. And having a safe, welcoming space to share them means that our children get to grow up feeling rooted, seen, and proud. As a mom, that is everything. So, thank you for giving our kids and families this opportunity. Thank you for supporting cultural expression, community connection, and continuation of traditions that matter deeply to us. Your kindness is helping shape our children's identity and confidence, and we are so appreciative. Thank you. So now we save the best for last and we have have um actually we're going to add one of the parents who he was like I am not ready for this but once I told him what this was about he was very willing to come. So I'm going to have Ashantes um dad to come up here. And as you can see you don't have to be Mexican to join this team. You can. We have biracial children and anybody can join. >> How y'all doing? >> My name Terrell, you know. Um, Shanti is my daughter. You know, I got like some other kids, you know, all my sons, like most of my sons do it like on and off after sports and stuff like or during sports, but you know, like this not my culture, but it's their culture, you know. So, I just like to thank y'all for the space. That's it. >> Appreciate y'all. >> Peace out. Good morning. Hi, my name is Le. I'm 6 years old. I'm here to say thank you for letting us use this space for Dansa. You are kind for letting us use it. I've learned a lot. I love that you are here. Thank you. >> Good morning. My everyone, my name is Asanti Coleman. Thank you for giving us a ch giving me a chance to share what dansa means to me. Asa dancing shows me that my culture is beautiful like every dansa which means dance has a story. I have learned how to play an at which is a kongcho. Every time I play I imagine how my ancestors used it to open up ceremonies. I am honored to keep their voices and teachings alive. I want to thank you for giving us a safe and welcoming space to practice. It has helped us learn, grow, and feel supported. Thank you so much for letting us use this space and also thank you to our tanal leader Elva for her teachings. Thank you. >> So once again just thank you. We really appreciate everything that you do on Scott County but also for our community and it means a lot. It's been a year. We hope to continue to grow. Um we are work I myself I'm reaching out working with a lot of the um local schools here to engage um the youth. Um so hopefully next year there'll be more people presenting because we continue to have more youth wanting to be in part of it and the parents really appreciate the fact that it's free and that it's in a safe space. So once again thank you again. Don't forget the tamales and I'm going to come around and share um the little gifts that we have for you. Thank you once again. Oh, thank you, >> Mr. Chairman. I I want to thank all of them for coming and especially Elba. Yes, this uh did start from a a walk, but it also goes to one of our core values and one of our things that we look about at caring adults and children's lives and how important that is. And Elba volunteers her time. This is a free program for how many youth in our community that hopefully grows. Why, thank you. And and a government center should be a space that the public can utilize and take advantage of all those extra hours. And so I want to say thank you to the volunteers for working with the youth in our community and everything that they've done. So thank you very much. you know I want to um say thank you as well you know for two things one is for expressing your culture uh and in the community and to us uh we all benefit and and grow by exposure to other cultures and learning from other cultures it's a great thing >> I also want to say thank you for being grateful and thankful you know we don't often have people come and say they're grateful and thankful to the county board. And uh it's rare in today's society, I think, gratefulness and thankfulness. And I heard it said, if you want to be happy, be more grateful or more thankful. Recognize what you're thankful or grateful for. And you you provided a role model to us and to the kids and the community about even beyond your culture is being grateful and thank you. Thankful for Yeah. So very cool. And thank you. >> Thank you. >> Other comments? Anybody? Thank you. >> All right. Well, thank you. >> Okay. All right. Well, we'll move on to um item nine, committee reports and commissioner updates, and we'll start down with Commissioner Brekie. >> Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, our last board meeting was December 16th and we had a workshop after that board meeting. Um, that afternoon I also had my monthly meeting with county administrator Leslie Vermillion. Um, December 17th had a meeting with Molly Bruner about the state community supervision advisory committee just touching base to making sure we're representing counties and looking out for um additional costs as we make those rules around community corrections. Um December 17th had a Niko, SNAP, and HR1 implementation call. Um it's these calls are happening a couple times a month really just to hear what other states how they're dealing with some of the new requirements, trying to get ideas for how to do what we need to do with these additional checks without without burdening staff or or finding just trying to brainstorm and find better ways to do that. December 18th had uh the Scott County Community Corrections Advisory Board meeting. Um December 18th had a county state um ICS, which is incident command steering committee meeting about the um human services issues. Also had NAO human services and education monthly call that day. And then finally on December 18th had the state long-term services and supports advisory council meeting. December 19th had scale executive committee meeting. Um December 22nd was the state community supervision advisory committee meeting. Also on December 22nd was the Bell Plain Library expansion ribbon cutting. Um many of of my colleagues were there. It's a very very nice expansion and I think it's definitely something to celebrate because um all of the funding almost all of the funding came from a state grant as well as um the Bellplane Friends of the Library non nonprofit um contribution and it it made a humongous difference at that library. Um really fun to see. Um, also December 22nd had our quarterly meeting with the mayor of Jordan, the city administrator and council member whips and the county administrator just hearing about um, you know, current development plans uh, in Jordan. And then January 5th, I had CAP finance committee meeting and that's the end of my report, Mr. Chair. >> Thank you, Commissioner Wolf. >> Thank you, Mr. Chair. the 17th uh met with Credit River uh for a quarterly meeting that evening had the mosquito control uh guess they call that the truth and taxation meeting on the 18th I'll go new market have a short meeting on the 22nd uh as uh commissioner Bucky mentioned the Bell Plane Library ribbon cutting uh very nice space uh and uh um on the 23rd had a meeting with some administration folks that's my report >> thank catch your beer. >> Thank you very much. Excuse me. On the 16th had a constituent meeting with a fellow by the name of Gary Shelton. Um got a couple phone calls and a text and so we set up a time to talk. On the 17th uh MMCD was talked about our truth and taxation for that particular for 2025. on the 19th also had a constituent meeting uh with an individual Shaina Ror lives in Jordan but has a a app called Liftup and was just really intrigued by the possibilities and so I I think he had attended our round table I believe and so I which I was not able to be there due to a previous engagement literally um so wanted to understand that more learn more about it we talked about it in the context of fish just as contextual just like what ifs and like by the time I left the meeting uh had a mockup of what it could look like just a just kind of a you know literally a mockup page. So lots of possibilities on how we could um partner with them. So which is a huge uh opportunity for we're always looking for partners that we can partner with that can do be the hands and feet to folks um and bring about hope and transformation in new and amazing ways. So um with guardrails of course and accountability and all of those things. 22nd was talked about the Bellplane ribbon cutting. You know what the libraries look like these days? You know, they're not the libraries of yestery year. And and I feel like there's even a little bit more emphasis on them when you get into the um I don't want to say rural, but rural rural areas of the county, rural areas of the state, rural areas. Um and and it's used more than just books and library of things and this meeting space. And uh the mayor was there as well uh to do a presentation. And so I think it was really um embraced by not only the town but as Commissioner Wmani talked about be able to have state funding to be able to put that in place. Win-winwin. On the 23rd had a coffee talk with Prior Lake mayor. Feel like we always have these seasonal gettogethers which always need to keep open lines of communication with all of our partners. Uh I I I wrote down 12 242 right amazing Christmas. Hoping we all had that. Try to carry that with my heart. I did I did remove the Christmas ornament because we're in a new year, but I'm still thinking about Christmas 2026. Uh and this morning, uh hosted the new employee welcome. That concludes my report. >> Thank you, Commissioner Brennan. >> Uh thank you. Um December 16th was the Prior Lake Spring Lake watershed district. Um and they talked about um their organization for next year. Um Bruce Looney is is going to stay on as president of that organization. Um December 16th I attended the Shakp City Council meeting. Um December 17th was the lower Minnesota W River Watershed District meeting. December 18th I went to the ProAct Christmas event where individuals with um who go to Proact um were celebrating Christmas. Um it was great to see that group of our community and and it was really I'll say joyous event. Um December 19th was the AMC solid waste working group. Um and we discussed um some topics that we want to proceed with in 2026. Um December 22nd was the Bellplane Library ribbon cutting event that's already been discussed. In December 30th, I met with Brad Davis and we went um discussed the comprehensive plan for 20 2050. Um and that's starting this year. So some of that >> um yeah 2050. Yep. Um that's all I have. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> My report is as follows. On the 17th I attended the Minnesota Valley Transit Authority board meeting. The 19th scale exec. the fifth, a meeting with the deputy county attorney, Katie Anderson. Um, and the sixth, the new employee orientation. I do want to comment on it wasn't actually a meeting as such, although it's been a lot of conversations with Leslie and others related to the historical society. My >> my brother-in-law is actually a key person in the Bloomington Historical Society. And then I've also um been looking at the Adina Historical Society and Bonsson ideas off of Leslie. But one thing that I thought was pretty interesting is for the support that the Bloomington uh Historical Society gets, they're required to put eight programs on a year. So they get the support, but eight programs have to be produced each year. And I thought, that sounds like a maybe a good concept, you know, and I've been bouncing off program ideas um with Leslie and so forth. But like even today, you know, you one program could be different cultures in Scott County or you could do a different culture is one program or or all the different cultures is one program. You know, it could be many programs. So there's but there's lots of ideas there. Uh but I think that might be something we want to look at is with what the support they get, what what are we requiring back or asking back? I I don't know. It's worth considering I would say. Um, Fish, we're we're starting the process of looking for a new director. Um, Bethany Chernholm has moved on with a different position. We thought we had a candidate, but um ends up that's not going to work out as a U at least so far doesn't seem like it will. Uh, so we're kind of starting with square square one here. So in January with the fish director position. Um, so that's a concerning item for me and probably for everybody. Um, anyhow, we're on to now um, county administrator update. >> Uh, thank you, Mr. Chairman. I heard Commissioner Beer go when Commissioner Brennan mentioned the 2050 comp plan. Can you imagine how I feel when the first one that I utilized was the 2000 comp plan, Commissioner Beer? So, that tells you something. Um, I want to thank the facility staff as well because they make it possible for folks to use this building after. So, Troy and his crew do a really good job of that and making it accessible and available. And then um we had a great meeting with uh the executive director of Bowser um regarding the lower min and um maybe Commissioner Wolf remembers Mr. B uh the river the bigger river. He you and Commissioner Hennon I think maybe participated on that at one point. Um, but we did have a discussion on the Minnesota River and how important it is to the Scott board and the Carver board and the Dakota board, but is there a better way to look at it than putting all of that pressure just on the three or four counties in the metro area? And so he has sent several ideas forward, how the Red River um has done some work and some other concepts. Um, Commissioner Brennan, I think, should be a researcher. Doug got one of the um old plans from Mr. B. And so Brad is going to take a look at that as well, but we'll be bringing forward several ideas, I think, to our joint meeting with Carver County here at the end of January. And then, um, finally, uh, Commissioner Olrich has been very engaged in the historical society. Jake and I just had a discussion yesterday. It's one of the few nonprofits that we don't have a contract for, and what do we expect for those dollars? And as we've been doing some research on smaller museums um or historical societies throughout the state, many of them do see most of their interactions from programming versus just coming to a museum and special types of events. So I think that is one thing we bring forward when the nonprofits come in to meet with you in April again that maybe we talk about a contract that talks about, you know, maybe the museum shouldn't be open so many hours. I mean, it's their board's decision, but are there some programming that you expect that would bring people in and create some interest? So, um, I think that's one of the things we'll be bringing forward when we meet with the nonprofits again. So, yes, we are following up on that as well. And that's the end of my report, Mr. Chairman. Thank you. Item 11 would be to recess for attorney client meeting if needed. >> Mr. Chair, it is not needed. All right. Thank you. Item 12 is uh adjournment. Do we have a motion to move? Second.