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All right. I see 9:00 a.m. So, we are going to convene the October 7th, 2025 Scott County Board of Commissioners. Please join me in the pledge. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you so much. >> All right. Uh moving on to item number two, amendments to the agenda. Always like to take my look left and right. I did not see anything. Otherwise, this agenda will stand as distributed. Uh item number three, we're going to look to approve the minutes of the September 9th, 2025 Three Rivers, Scott County joint board meeting minutes as well as the September 16th, 2025 board meeting minutes. Are there any changes or additions or >> Mr. Chair move approval? >> Second. >> We have a motion. We have a second. Uh all in favor say I. >> I. I. >> All right. Minutes are approved as distributed. Item number four, one of my favorite spots in the agenda that I wish more people would take advantage of. Uh recognition of interested citizens. This gives anyone an opportunity to uh uh talk to the board about anything that is not on the agenda. Uh limiting 5 minutes per person or subject. So if you if you I I think we may have a few folks. Please make your way to the microphone right up here to this podium. Uh you want there it went green. So uh name and address for the record and welcome. >> Uh thank you. Uh my name is >> by the way housekeeping that that microphone will get you so you don't have to stick down to it. Just sounds good. I know it's a little little >> dist. Yeah. Thank you. >> Morning. >> Uh good morning. My name is Aaron Sanders. Uh you need >> just an address. >> Okay. An address 1394 Wood Duck Trail. County Board. I just want to thank you for hearing our concerns. I want to talk about two items regarding the proposed road between why not acres and timber trails. The two items are the comments from the open house and the consequence of this road being installed. At the open house, we found out that they are closing the crossings on any new development um with the designs of expansion going down Marshall. This includes Marsha Road and Norton Drive. The idea is is to limit crossing so you can only turn one way. You cannot travel north. And they say that's for safety and for effectiveness of traveling on Marshall Road. this. Um, I want to be crystal clear. We oppose this road. So, everything you're going to hear from me is in opposition of this road. Jennifer Lane, the head engineer, bragged about how good a job Scott County did with this. They did a nice job, but it wasn't driven by Scott County. It was driven by the developers. The reason that went in was because of two of the three 10acre lots were purchased and then they worked with the county to actually put Jennifer Lane in. Jennifer Jennifer Lane wasn't purchased by Scott County put the road in and then the roads were developed. It was done because of development. The road we're talking about is typically done because of that reason. It's not done because they want something. I understand needs, but there's a want. It's driven by development, not because the county wants it. Here was the most telling story for me. At the open house, I went to three engineers. I asked the three engineers this one question. If every house at why not acres and every house from timber trails to Jennifer lanes over 200 homes on both sides of the road, if they all came to you individually and said, "We do not want this road." What would you say to that? One said, "I don't know." The other said, "I feel like you're trying to trap me." The third, the lead engineer, responded, "I can't comment on that. That tells me that the engineers are set up to not have a plan for opposition. I know what they are doing is always asking for things from homeowners, but at a certain point there's got to be a plan for opposition and I don't see that when we're there. I really feel like it was a waste of time to be honest with you going to that the 2009 comprehensive plan. We keep hearing the reason this road needs to go in because it was proposed in the 2009 comprehensive plan. Why wasn't it done 10 years ago then? 10 years ago they redid Marshall. They it would have been a lot simpler then. Why wasn't it done then? And more important, why is it not on their their plan right now? If this road is so important, they've had 15 years to think about this and this road is just added after the third meeting, second or third meeting. They're not planning, they're reacting. At a city council Shakipi meeting, the lead engineer said uh stood up and said to the council, "You should expect 10 cars per day." What we found at the open house is how they plan. They plan 10 trips per household per day. If these are the facts, this road is going in for one house. It just doesn't make sense. It just I I can't understand the facts that we are being told about all the turmoil, all the expense for one 10-day trip. I could not get the engineers to actually tell me how much traffic they expected, but the city engineer did. The city engineer said that we planned for half of the trips to go on that road. Well, there's 40 homes. That means there's 400 trips. That means they're planning for 200 trips per day. My second point on this whole thing is is there's a consequence to this road. The county engineers are breaking every single rule by putting this road in here. They go down to to Marsha Drive into Norton Drive and say you can't cross there, but we're 100% okay with dumping up to 200 people a day and let's let you cross at a busier intersection at Wooduck and Marshall. It's going against everything they design about. I guess again I just don't quite understand why they're doing that. Um, in closing, I feel the board has a say in this. And what I want to say is is that I feel the the engineers are reacting on this road. They're not planning. They've had 15 years to get this down. They've had two major remodels. They've done one, they're proposing another, and they were not included in it in their initial plan. I feel that they are reacting to this. They're not planning for this. So, um, my ask is that you say no to this road. Thank you. >> Thank you. Thank you very much. Is there anyone else who would like to address the board? >> Yes, please come on up. State your name and address for the record. Welcome. Good morning. Good morning. Thank you. My name is Jeff Bolt. I live on 1401 here in Court. I'm one of the property owners that'll be affected by this taking if this road is um proposed road is sent through. Um I've got a lot of history on that property. Give me a second. My great-grandfather bought it in 1906. Went through three generations of family farms with my grandfather and my parents. One of seven raised on that property. We grew up in acorage with the woods and a lake country living. Um then late 90s my folks were in their late 70s and thought it was time to downsize. None of the family members felt they could purchase the whole acreage. Um but we decided to keep 10 acres which was the minimum requirement at that time from egg to rural residential. So once we got it surveyed, we found out that the line of 10 acres went right through the middle of the barn that my great-grandf grandfather built in 32. So we moved the line over to 11 1/2 acres. My first interaction with the city was they pushed back on letting us reszone it because I was in the meeting told by a city councilman that we were slicing and dicing the remaining acreage in in Shakipi. Even though Timber Trails and Wooduck had one, two, 3 acre lots, didn't make any sense. Through that meeting, it was approved. And that was after we had to hire lawyers to push this through, which didn't make any sense because we followed the city ordinances. And then the person who pushed back on city council after approval came up to me and asked to buy 10 acres of the property. That was very offensive based on he was pushing back at the whole idea of slicing and dicing. And I'll backtrack. Three times my parents had land taken up to 1 and 3/4 acres in the 70s and 80s by roads being widened on 17 and 42. So our family went through condemnations three times. Um as they sold the rest of the property to Brian and Julie Welsh, one of the reasons my folks sold it to him is I promised not to develop it. that was a pretty big deal. So, they honored that as well. Um, and the whole thing about the comprehensive plan that Aaron talked about changing things change because the if I understood correctly, there was 5 acres uh 2405 Jennifer Lane that was recently sold. One of our neighbors in Wet told me a family member went to the city council asking about a building permit to put a single family home on there. and they said no, it needs to be sold to a developer for multiple houses. So again, slicing and dicing, who's doing it? Things change. So we're asking for this comprehensive plan to change to if and when the Bolts and Welches develop. This is where the road needs to go, which I heard 10 years ago. So I don't understand the push to pay have taxpayer dollars to pay for this road that nobody wants. And if maybe one or two people the vast majority does not want built our house and this is another issue with our local government. We have a 11 and a halfacre lot with thousands of trees on it. Somebody from the city came out and counted stumps when I cleared trees for a house. had to put 24 trees on the property, which other than putting them in the tillable ground, didn't have much space to put them, but we found spaces. Had to put money in escrow in case any of them died. That was money we were going to use to build our house. And double standards come into play when the county blasted a hole in our northern lot line to give us a driveway we didn't want because they condemned our Marshall Road driveway, which was safer than the wood duck entrance to Marshall Road, by the way. Nobody counted stumps and nobody replaced trees. So as a taxpayer I get blasted. The city and county can do what they want. And I that's sits very poorly with me. In 2014, the Welches were contacted by Randy Roning in January 2014 about that 2015 project and he commented to her, "I need to contact the Bolts." 7 weeks later, he contacted me and then commented, "We need to get moving. We don't want to delay the project. You need to get a meeting set with me so we can talk about your driveway." 2025, similar thing happened. 3 weeks after the Welches were contacted, we were contacted about this, which was 10 days after the county presented it to the city. We weren't even notified yet. There's no transparency. It's in my opinion incompetence or deception, but it's not fair. Another taking is on the horizon. And we went through it in 2014. We were treated rudely with disrespect. We weren't given a fair price for our property or our buildings to be moved. And it took a year and a half after they were moved to get compensated somewhat fairly, which we were able to pay loans back, but not able to replace all the buildings. And another comment from the city once I went with plans to put up a new pole barn, said I couldn't build a metal building on this property, even though I took one down, I had a year to do that, replace it, wasn't informed of that. And then he told me after looking at the plans, if I put wood siding on it and lowered it by one inch, one inch, I could build it. Where's the common sense in that? It was the It was a very disrespectful comment about how about wood siding, let her fly. Instead, it's another interaction with the local government that was negative. They took46 acres in 2015. We fought Randy Ronning in the county day and night and he was disrespectful the whole time. I don't see or have any reason to believe we're not in for the same fight. Our propertyy's not for sale. We have a secluded lot that my wife and I are blessed to have, but local government continues to nick away at it, taking away seclusion, security, and safety. And it's not acceptable. So, I truly want you to reconsider the 2009 comprehensive plan, put it on the back burner if and when developed. Thank you for your time. >> Thank you very much. Thank you. Is there anyone else that would like to take advantage of the interested citizens? Thank you. Yes, please. Name and address for the record, please. Good morning. >> Good morning. Uh Julie Welch, 1525 29th Avenue. Um Jeff and I are the parties that would have property taken from us uh if this connection road is going through. Um I'll be brief. I just want to say that um we've already had property taken three different times for a total of 10 acres or more. Um I think that's uh more than enough sacrifice for this county. Um and uh another taking um you know it's probably another acre and a half something like that. Um the bottom line is anyone that we have talked to to the north and to the south uh does not want the connection road. They do not want their neighborhoods connected. Uh they like them the way it is. They like the serene uh rur rural feel just as Jeff and I do. Um we do not want traffic through our properties where we enjoy wildlife and solitude. And so again, we are respectfully asking that this connection road not happen um unless such a time as the properties are developed um and a road would be developer driven. Thank you. >> Thank you very much. Anyone else in this full room like to address the board for any reason not on the agenda? Not seeing anyone outside. Thank you so much for taking advantage of this opportunity. Um so we will now move on to um item number five on the agenda, recognition of Scott County retiree Pete Chutrop. Who's going to take that away? Good morning. >> Morning. Pete Bus, highway operation supervisor. here to recognize Pete as retirement. Pete started his career at Scott County Highway Department on December 21st, 1998. He was hired by Joe Kaine. Pete quickly became a strong member of the highway department family. his initiation to the 98 99 plow season with plowable accumulation starting the day before he started including a snow event on his first day. A lot has changed in the county over nearly 27year tenure of our team. The county population was 82,000 to more than 157,000 today. The 356 square land miles now encompasses almost 400 miles of road including 10 major roadways and many arteries including those partner with cities, townships and towns. We are proud to have Peter team as this growth and expansion has continued to restore, rebuild and maintain our road system. Though we are a quiet team, there's a lot of pride in our work and Pete has become a key player in the in that positive culture. Scott County has a reputation of beauty, well-maintained roads, and proactive maintenance. Pete Snow event route is county road part of 16, part of 27, 18, 44, and 42. that encompasses 107 miles of plowable road surface. One of the heaviest traffic routes to maintain, including the team of four drivers. As a popular and highly traveled entry point to Scott County for many travelers and commuters, it was always be a key route during inclement weather and storm. This being said, it is not uncommon to receive comments, calls from the traveling public complimenting the transition from other counties into Scott and and the excellent road maintenance even in the worst road conditions. Pete experience and personal commitment set an example for this key team. Reaching that reputation oftentimes was guided by Pete's two primary passions. Supporting the team, training others to carry on tradition of beautifification with the guidance and snow plow trainees, summer help rotation, job site traffic control pro protocols. Secondly, Pete has a talent for leading our team in a agriculture spraying and inspection. As a multi-year certified tree inspector, Pete meticulously attention to our county lot maintenance management created a well-kept pleasing county owned lots. He volunteered to lo to represent our local 49 as a union steward as well as being internal point of reference for the highway department insurance related changes. As a longtime resident of Scott County, Pete is a reliable and public focused guy. He is respected and will be missed as a leader, hard worker, and a friend of many. We will miss his morning snacks. We're his work, ethic, and everyday companionship as he makes his well-deserved transition into retirement. We thank him for his commitment, late night call out, uh, responses, and sometimes very long hours. Pete, you have served the county well, and we all wish you well. and I enjoyed working alongside you for 26 of those 27 years. Thank you. >> Come on up. You can't stay hidden in there. >> So before he speaks though, I I want to add a couple words. Um, my got my black book out for Pete. >> Oh boy. Here we go. >> I made Could be good, could be bad. We're going to find out. >> I think only when I look out here that Doug and Pete and Pete are the only ones left in my black book. I don't know. It's a little concerning. Um, but when he was asked about the responsibilities of his position was question number one. When I tried to meet everybody in public works in O2, he talked about wanting to utilize the strengths of the department and working together as a team. Um, he did not like repairing chainsaws. He didn't think that was an area he wanted to focus in, but he wanted to focus on wetlands and trees and how could he coordinate more with the agricultural inspector. Question two is what were some of the priorities that he wanted to talk about? And when he talked about it, he hit on the same topic again, working together more with the division and communicating more between the departments in the public works so that they could do a better job. He didn't like to see division between the two sides of the building, which I think there was at one point quite a bit of. And he wanted to help be that problem solver. Again, he wanted to reach out to the egg inspector and work more on trees and weeds within the county and use his expertise. He didn't have a lot to say about what communication worked best for him, but when he talked about 3 to five years, he talked again about he'd really like to see disciplined approaches to how they attacked problems. He talked about frost patrol and and doing some things on the gravel roads. He also talked about regraveling and be able being able to work on that. But he also talked about um the labor management committee and he was part of the mailbox solution and moving that forward, you know, which ended up being a uh awardwinning um process between two parts of the county. And then in conclusion, when he said what did he really want to do, he came right back to strengths of each other and working together. And I think Pete that that really is a symbol of what when I think of you and the 23 years now that I've been here working with you and watching it was how could we work together? How could we do better? But what I have here quoted, you're here to serve the public and the residents. They're our customers and our job is to be more efficient to them. I just think that was outstanding and I I have it here highlighted and actually put little quote marks around it. So, thank you for your years of service and your commitment to what your word said. >> Nice. >> Thank you. >> Before Pete, >> we're going to let you linger just a little bit more. >> Thank you, Mr. Chair. Uh on behalf of the board, Pete, I I we agree with everything the other Pete said and and keeping the roads perfect and and taking care of our trees and weeds and all that, but I'll tell you one thing that I most appreciate about you, Pete, is you've been a real ambassador for Scott County and connecting people to the things they need. in my whatever nine years here and before that even you wouldn't believe how many people about any subject related to the county said I talked to Pete Shutup and he told me who to call or what to do so thank you I think that's just a tremendous role that all of us should do I mean we are that liaison to the residents and we should be trying to solve problems and make things better so thank you for doing that and for that leadership and don't forget to introduce the fine folks you have with you Okay. >> Nice. Nice. >> Thank you. >> All you >> um Thank you for the county being giving me the opportunity to to actually make a career here. Um, I started this, well, I attempted the job a few years prior to that, but it took a few applications before we got in here, but I mainly went to this side of the town because of family. Um, had two young kids at the time. I used to work on the other side of the cities. I'd drive an hour to work every day and drive a truck for 10 to 12 hours and then come home another hour later. it uh it was a job. It paid well, but wasn't wasn't my passion. Um, born and raised in Scott County, raised up on a farm about 6 milesi east of here where some of those work ethics came from where I got the agricultural drive, the the trees, the have a schooling background, horiculture, and this job all kind of played into that in your comment about then do with the chainsaws. Yeah, that changed. kind of took care of the chainsaws and run the tree crew. It's like, yeah, we do a lot with the trees and and stuff now. So, my lovely bride has been spending just shy of 42 years with me. We have two K children. My daughter Carla and her husband Mike are here. My mom is over here on the left. Janice and Bernie and Helen Balman, my in-laws. They've all came here to support me. And then all the I I'll I'll pay you guys later. >> Nice. Nice. My co-workers showed up. They kind of were told we're going to the courthouse today. >> Nice. >> But thank you. Um, with that they've they've since I've announced that I was actually I told management about four years ago, prepare. I'm leaving in 2025 and I am. And the guys have all been giving me the berries about you can't retire. Well, now they're at to the point where yes, they accepted it and now they're wondering what I'm going to do with myself. But I'm like, I got a honeydew list miles long. We'll be fine. Um, it was a great place to develop a career. I enjoyed working here. I enjoyed working all of you and the communication thing we're working on. There's still room to work on it more. And it's not just here. I see it everywhere that, you know, everybody's got to talk to each other. And yes, I do enjoy having a conversation with residents and sharing my knowledge and what I can help with and point them in the right direction if they need help. >> Thank you. I enjoyed working here. >> Thank you. [Applause] >> You have to get a picture with the board here, too. >> All right. >> He's like, "Do I have to?" >> I know. I know. >> Congratulations. >> Thanks. >> Enjoy retirement. Oh jeez. It's not a good album. >> All right, we've got a a hot mic up here if anyone else would like to uh chitchat. See Jill making his way up here. It's green already waiting for you. Morning, Mr. chair, members of the board. So, just uh I don't know if I can uh say much more than it's already been said. Uh Pete Bust did a really nice job putting that together. Uh the comments by Leslie, but I just want to reiterate the the team culture. Um this is by far the best team I've worked with in my career. Uh 31 year career. Um worked for a few other cities and landed here at the county about 13 years ago. um we have truly the best team whether it's clearing the roads to just hanging out and Pete was a main contributor to that and bringing that team and that culture together. Um so I want to just thank him for that and for all he's contributed. Um, I'm not sure if ER is in here or not, but countless hours uh after hours calls I've had with Pete and I know many situations where Pete has spoken to residents after hours uh without marking those hours down. So, again, want to thank them. Hate to lose them, but uh so happy for him. >> Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Good. Good. Good morning, Lisa. Morning, chair, members of the board. Um, I just want to say that Pete's one of the people that I first encountered from the maintenance side when I came to work at the county and um, he always was helping me along the way and, uh, all the way to the end. Uh I've appreciated what Pete has brought uh making that connection with the the design side and the various issues that we have and trying to keep um that communication going. I sat with uh Pete um a couple three years ago um in labor management negotiations and really appreciated his perspective and I know he's put a lot of time in that and I hope he uh has a great time in retirement um time to enjoy with his family and thanks again for all you've done for us. All right. Anyone want to avail themselves to this hot mic moment before we do a a little reconvening of this? Well, no, not a recess first. Recess. Um, I see heads looking. You me? You are you going to me? No. I Yeah, I get it. I get it. All right, we're just going to uh recess for at least 15 minutes. I know longer for you guys, but we got to keep keep the board. So, we're going to recess for 15 minutes. And there's a little reception just down the hall here. So, we're going to briefly recess. Okay. So I guess Um we're going to read the go through the consent item. Um what do we have? 12 items here. We'll pass in one motion. Uh we're going to start with 6.1. Adopt resolution number 2025-193 authorizing entering an amendment to the cannabis and substance use prevention contract with the Minnesota Department of Health. 6.2 adopt resolution number 2025-218 authorizing final payment to McNamera Contracting Inc. for the County Highway 2 and Cedar Lane Baseline Avenue roundabout project 6.3. Adopt resolution number 2025-222 approving the reszone of 40 acres from A1 agricultural preservation district to A3 agricultural preservation density district a preliminary plat and a final plat of the Anthony Keeley edition Anthony Keeley applicant and Carrie S. Keeley trust property owner 6.4 adopt resolution number 2025-225 authorizing entering an agreement with Environmental Systems Research Institute Inc. for geographic information systems software. 6.5 adopt resolution number 2025-227 authorizing entering into an agreement with the Minnesota Department of Health for the statewide health improvement program. 6.6 Adopt resolution number 2025-228 setting a public hearing for October 21st, 2025 at 10 a.m. to receive public comment on an onoff sale combined intoxicating liquor license for Tonkan Strength LLC DBA St. Patrick's Tavern and Restaurant in Cedar Lake Township. 6.7. Adopt resolution number 2025-231 authorizing an amendment to the grant agreement with the Metropolitan Council for Tree Planting. 6.8. Adopt resolution number 2025-232 authorizing entering into agreement with him uh Kimley Horn and Associates, Inc. for design services for the trunk highway 13 282 and county highway 17 interchange project 6.9 adopt resolution number 2025-233 supporting Demcon HZI bio energy LLC's Minnesota Ford fund application for its anorobic digtor project 6.10 10. Adopt resolution number 2025-237 approving an amendment to Scott County Ordinance Number 28, Social Host Ordinance 6.11. Adopt resolution number 2025-240, authorizing a second contract increase for Ames Construction, Inc. for the Miriam Junction Trail project. 6.12 Approve payroll processing of personnel actions. members that are those are the 12 items on consent agenda. Is there any changes, additions, or would anyone like to >> Mr. Chair, I'd move to um adopt the consent agenda as presented? >> All right, we have a motion. >> Second. >> We have a second on those 12 items. Is there any further discussion? >> Seeing none, otherwise all in favor say I. >> I. >> I. All right. Uh consent agenda passes as distributed. Okay, we're going to move on to item number 7.1, presentation of the Spirit of Scott 2025 Q2 recognition awards. Greg, good morning. >> Good morning, Mr. Chair, commissioners. So, I'm Greg Wagner, representing the Spirit of Scott group uh this morning. So, as you know, uh Spirit of Scout is the year- round program where we uh recognize our fellow employees who go above and beyond in their uh duties. um either towards other staff or to our uh county customers. So this morning we have um chosen two uh nominees uh from the list of just over 20 from quarter 2 of 2025. And our group really enjoys to choosing the longer ones for me to read. So uh our first uh recipient was Dan Wormer. Uh Dan was nominated by uh Christian Husky. So, Christian wrote, uh, "On Monday, on a Monday at approximately 3 p.m., a taxpayer approached the assessment window, uh, visibly frustrated and confused about a property boundary issue involving a survey from 1999. She believed her neighbor's fence was encroaching on her property and was seeking interpretation of the survey to support her concern. Uh, the tax assessment staff, recognizing they did not have the technical background to interpret the survey document, uh, appropriately referred the taxpayer to Dan for assistance. Uh Dan promptly responded and invited the taxpayer into a conference room to discuss the issue. Over the next hour, he listened attentively and uh empathetically as the taxpayer explained her concerns, ensuring that she felt heard and understood by actively summarizing her points and asking clarifying questions. Despite the taxpayers's frustration and emotional investment in the situation, Dan remained patient, professional, and supportive through the conversation. Uh later, as Christian passed the meeting room intermittently, he observed Dan continuing to engage with the taxpayer. At approximately 4:30, after normal business hours, Dan was still actively involved in the conversation, offering detailed explanations about survey interpretation and appropriate avenues for resolving the property disputes. Even after being prompted prompted about the office closing, Dan stayed with the taxpayer, providing a thorough recap of her next steps and continuing to answer questions. By 5:20 p.m., long after regular closing time, Dan concluded the discussion only after ensuring all the taxpayers concerns had been addressed fully. Uh Dan's commitment to public service, his patience, and his ability to communicate clearly and compassionate compassionately reflect the high standards of customer service and professionalism. His actions not only helped a taxpayer navigate a difficult and emotional situation, but reinforced trust in our office's dedication to serving the community. So, a lot of good words in that one. Um, very thorough explanation, but uh just shows how, uh, Dan went above and beyond in his duties there. Uh, the next recipient, uh, Mary Kay Door, um, from, uh, veteran services nominated by Cara Madson. Uh, Mary Kay is the first fea face you see as you walk into the veteran's office. Uh, you will also see some colorful, uh, Mandela pictures taped to her, taped on her glass. There's a veteran who visits the office regularly before heading to veterans court. When he began his visits to the office, he was very quiet, withdrawn, and did not speak much. One day, he brought a colored picture of a Mandela and gave it to Mary Kay. She was very thankful and asked if after asked if she could display it in the window. He was honored and very touched by this gesture. Over time, he has brought dozens of Mandela pictures he colors and she takes turns displaying them all. The smile it brings to his face every time he sees them is priceless. And Mary Kay says that he has come out of his shell and is more engaging and happier. The little gesture has brought joy and a purpose to his life. He continues to bring colored pictures and Mary Kay is hoping to find a few Mandela coloring books to purchase for him as he is short on funds to continue his happiness. Delivering what matters is sometimes the simplest gesture of kindness. So, uh, we felt those were very, uh, two very appropriate ones to be nominated for, uh, quarter 2 of 2025. Uh, so we thank Dan and Mary and everybody that was nominated. And just want to remind the board, uh, that this week is customer service appreciation week. Um, so wanted to thank all of our customer service staff and all county employees who uh, deal with customers and remind that we do have our event today from 11 till about 1. though uh as you are available please stop bone. >> Awesome. Thank you so much. And this is a you know commissioner brekie almost said barb commissioner brekie you know earlier in the retirement and and we have we do these spirit of Scott throughout the year the I the importance of being ambassadors doing those extra little things which so many of our folks do you know that really do want to make that difference in someone's life bring a little bit of hope bring a little bit of transformation and who knows how that comes about by a something as simple as a coloring item or point or or you know walking two uh survey results and and so forth. So, it's uh never minimize, you know, which snowflake is it that really breaks the branch. Is it the first one or is it the last one that kind of takes them all. So, um yeah, so many of us do such great work. So, thank you for highlighting this. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Any other comments or we will uh move on to the next item. Um, moving on to item number 8.1, adopt resolution number 2025-239, approving conducting uh a closed meeting as as authorized by Minnesota statute 13D uh 03 to discuss labor negotiations strategy on October 7th, 2025 at 10 a.m. or as soon thereafter. Oh, we're at 9:58. So doing that at 10 am or soon thereafter as the agenda allows in room GCE231. That is the uh resolution before us to conduct that closed meeting but we are at 958. We are really uh you know ahead of time here so far today. So I suppose we could >> do the vote right >> do our reports. >> Well you know what >> do you have a close session? We need to wait till exactly 10. >> Well because it's posted that way. So, I think that is the correct way. If we're doing 10:00 a.m., we have to wait for that. So, it's 9:59. Um, you want to fire up report first? We'll look down to the right. We got at least reports we can >> um thank you. It's been a long time since our last meeting. Um, September 16th through 18th, I was in uh DC for Minnesota's Transportation Alliance flyin. um talked mostly about Highway 13 at that meeting and um really trying to get our delegation to support a current um grant application in by the city of Burnsville. Talk about cross border um cooperation so we can get that project done. Let's get 13 done. September 19th was scale executive committee really talking about the legislative agenda. Um September 22nd I met with um Carver County Commissioner Fehee and their Carver County Engineer. um they're they're looking at cooperating with Three Rivers Park District in a similar way that we are and just wondered my opinions, which you know, I love to get my opinions. So, that was a good lunch. Um September 22nd was um the quarterly meeting with the city of Jordan mayor administrator and council member Whips that uh the county administrator attended with me. And as a result of that meeting, um Michael Thompson is going to Jordan City Council meeting next week to talk about assessment and um things going on in that department. So love to see our staff getting out to to city council meetings. Uh the 23rd was our county board workshop. 24th had um community super vision supervision advisory committee meeting. Also on the 24th um Scott Carver joint extension committee meeting and the Scott County township association fall meeting. All good things. 25th I met with uh Chair Beer. I'm sure I had some opinions to tell him too, but I forget. Um yeah, also on the 25th we had Tiki Brown, commissioner of um the the department of children, youth fam and families come to Scott County. I think our staff did just a tremendous job at the family resource center and here um talking to the commissioner and her staff about really the big things that that we're dealing with and um technology modernization as as part of that. September 25th also had NAO human services and education committee monthly meeting and a meeting with the mayor of Savage Christine Kelly. I had we've been meeting to get together all year. It took us till September but just kind of a say hi meeting. September 26 um had the big four meeting which includes the leadership from the counties, the school boards, the cities and the townships. And um those of us who were there who um are on scale talked about scale at that meeting. So it was good to share that with with others. 29th had AMC executive committee meeting. 30th I spent some time with um one of our residents um talking about disability waiver services. >> Um a neat thing happened on the 30th is um Minnesota agreed tour around Minnesota um that has you know major egg company representatives some legislators with and they had their final stop at RAR maltting. So, I hopped over there. Um, really talked to talked to several legislators about human services modernization. Uh, just had the opportunity to do that, but it was fun to see them see RAR maltting, learn about it, learn about just the amazing things that that company has done and is doing in our community. September 30th, I also attended the county road 17 open house. October 1st had a law library board meeting, a nl snap meeting, and then in the evening our joint meeting with the city of Shakabe. October 2nd was Scott County justice steering committee meeting. Um, a a good meeting, but we have some transitions there where Judge Lennon is is uh not going to be chairing that group anymore. And Judge Colleen King is coming on board and has um graciously said she would serve and lead that group. And then also um our court administrator Vicki is retiring. So it was a last meeting for a couple really good people. >> October 3rd had my monthly meeting with um our county administrator. Yes. Yesterday cap finance committee monthly meeting and AMC policy coordinating committee. And that is the end of my report. >> All right. Thank you very very much Commissioner Wolf. >> Thank you Mr. Chair. On the 23rd met with the administrator go over a few um little topics there. Um then after that the McCll uh environmental center where there was an 18 and 16 uh open house that actually went pretty good >> that night. Prior Lake uh city council met. Uh everything's good there. The 24th Prior Lake mayor administrator and the county administrator and a couple of us uh commissioners uh met and had a little uh chat about some things coming up uh over in Prior Lake. Uh then that night we had the township Scott County Township Association, I think they call. Um I think the most shocking thing was out there was uh a lot of people didn't know that Scott County 80% of what we do is mandated by the state. So 20% of what we do, we have uh control over the rest of it is uh we uh must do it, not may or whatever. So then on the 25th, Vermilion River Joint Powers Organization, we had a a all morning tour to see some of the projects we've been working on there. Um, and then after that, we had our monthly meeting that night. Elco New Market uh met and it uh turned out to be a pretty lively nearly 4-hour meeting. I thought was going to be about a half an hour. Um they had some water testing and um some of the test I think came back worse or whatever. There's some sludge and so it turned into a um beat up on Niagara night and uh uh so they're going to um they actually were going to they're trying to settle how much are they going to pay people for the amount of sediment that ended up in some of their filters and uh um so other than that the water wasn't testing any different out there. just there was when they ran a test there was some sediment came up and so they're going to pay for some filters for residents out there. So that's not the whole thing but um anyhow it's uh about what happened the 30th uh the county road 17 open house uh did not go quite as uh well as the 18 and 16 open house but uh we heard some of the comments this morning so we're going to work on that. Then on the first Shakapei city council came here and met. Uh nice meeting. On the 6th last night, Credit River uh had uh one of their two uh meetings of the month and uh one of the topics was going to be the uh ditch four and they uh actually punted on that. They're going to have a maybe a special meeting or meet uh on the 20th for that and see what uh uh they're going to do with that. and then Cedar Lake met after that and uh um all quiet out there. So that's my report. >> All right. Thank you very much, Commissioner Brennan. >> Thank you. Um September 16th, I attended the CAP agency event that happened um at their site on 1 Avenue in Shakipi and took a tour of the food shelf. >> Um September 16th was also the Prior Lake Spring Lake watershed district meeting. Um, I had also attended the Shockby city council meeting and had was surprised to see our county attorney there and speaking and being all friendly and talking about what he's doing. >> That sounds funny. >> So, it's always good to hear. >> Yeah, >> you were friendly. >> That's funny. >> September 17th was the lower Minnesota uh river watershed district meeting. Um they had a discussion about their 22 audit 2022 audit that was just completed. Um it was a negative financial report that was um reported by the audit. Um and so they had a discussion about that. >> What group? Sorry I missed that. >> Lower Minnesota River wershed district. >> Um September 17th um I attended the Senate tour of the Highway 13 project. Um no September 18th was Mela. Um September 18th, I went to the Scott County broker day. Um and I was able to listen to economic development projects that are happening throughout um Scott County and in the cities. >> Um se So thank you for to the CDA for putting that on. >> Um September 23rd was the meeting with um Met Council interim director Deb Barber. Um September 23rd was our board workshop. Um and I also attended the mental health advisory council meeting um and had they had a presentation on housing. Um September 24th through September 26 I went to the MAC conference and MAC is the Minnesota Association of Community Corrections. Um it's just always great to hear what's happening uh in their area um and their challenges and that they're facing every day. Um September 30th um was the CAP students presentation, Shaki Cap students presentation regarding the Scott County Historical Society. Um there were um five groups of students that presented on the Scott County Historical Society improving membership, improving um people coming in and knowing more about the the historical society. Um September 30th I went to the open house at County Road 17 Reconstruction Area. Um October 1st was the joint workshop with the Shockby City Council. October 6th um yesterday I attended the AMC District 10 transportation discussion um with Commissioner Alrich and I'll let him fill you in on that. Um September 6 was the AMC lunchon um presentation on concrete ideas for economic development. That's it. Great. Thank you very much, Commissioner Alch. >> All right. Um, on the 16th, I attended the ribbon cutting for um, CDA. 17th, a tab meeting. Um, and then the Senate Capital Investment meeting down in SA downtown Savage for the project there. the 19th scale executive committee, the 20th, the regional solicitation policy working group, and I I think this will be the last time I quote ABRT numbers to you, so bear with me. I think I've beat this horse uh to death, basically. But, okay, here's why I want to have a a in-depth presentation of before and after. Before it was a a route number and then it turned into a alphabetic line. So I'm going to give you one line to give you an example. My concerns. Route 21, one of the most heavily used um routes in the metrorransit system. I think it's the one that connects uh uh Minneapolis and St. Paul along University Avenue. I think that's the one it is. >> I think it was Marshall. >> Okay. I'm sorry. I got it wrong. Marshall. Okay. Good. Good. I'm glad you corrected me. Got it wrong. That's the actually the green line that does that, isn't it? Okay. So, okay, that I have wrong. But we got corrected. So, good. But here's the here's the what the numbers were. First of all, they were really enthused and raving that they had reached 8,000 riders a day recently. Well, they spent 75 million to turn it into the beline. And in 23 when it w after main co be and it still is a route it had 8,400 rides. So 400 more rides a day than now after 75 million and and making it the beline. In 2019 it had 10,000 riders a day. Now that's kind of the experience that the transit in the whole region has experienced a dramatic drop of transit and and a very slow recovery. So you can't really fault for that that but but again you know I that's why I want to see you know okay maybe the maybe the writer experience is greatly enhanced maybe it bodess well for the future because of that I I don't know but see we're just spending this money >> and not knowing what's the payoff >> for you know and so far it's definitely not more riders it's it's still trying to claw back to 10,000 and it's still 400 less than 2023 three. So that's why I want a before and after study. And usually I've had two responses from key meds staff and key key legislator. One told me, "Well, that pres presentation's already been made at the tab. You must have missed the meeting." Well, then I went to the administrator of the tab. I said, "When that was that ever made?" And she said, "No." So wasn't made. And then the legislator said, "Well, that's all online." Well, it's not all online. So, you know, we really need to see. In fact, if you do go online and they show the beline, all it shows is a is a tremendous mountain uphill, but you look down, it's like four months. It's not doesn't give a historical. So, uh pretty picture. So anyhow that's my that's the last time okay on numbers and stuff but that I >> it's important super important >> but uh 23 chair vice chair board workshop uh countroad 16 modernization project open house 24th MVTA board meeting um so I'm on a market analysis subcommittee there's not much happiness on the board with um salaries and staffing levels and other issues and so we're going to go at this pretty hard and um there's going to be some changes coming. So >> thank you. >> Uh so anyhow and we're MBTA is kind of getting creamed in the region. I mean yesterday or Monday at uh AMC the transportation group which is the metro AMC members uh Mary Liz went after MVTA on salary which there's no I have no defense there's no defense for the the salary the high salary so but anyhow change is coming and um so 29th tab active solicitation workg group uh there's two things that are kind of troubling in this group. And active transportation is bike, pad, wheelchair, it's that kind of projects. Um well, they have a a community engagement category and they have three components of it and if you score high in all three components of community engagement says you're guaranteed a project. You're guaranteed a project. You know, one of them is if you see seek feedback if some of the community engagement was actually some of the effort was led by the community and there's three different measures within the community engagement category. Well, guaranteeing a project on that measure alone is crazy because it doesn't say anything about the merit of the project or how would score against other projects. So, uh we kind of fought back against that. I think that probably won't survive. Um then there was another attempt to re redefine geographic balance and in the tab we've always said we want to have geographic balance of the dollars so that counties are getting really a fair share you know and sometimes we've looked backwards and said well x county is worth about 4% have we been getting 4% of the money and that county's us um I don't know if what the current percent is but at one time it was four and we look back and actually we consistently done a little better than four or sometimes way better than four and so but that's kind of the geographic balance. In fact, it was critical at one point we were out of the money by couple points and I think it 282 was it 282 and >> I think it was nine >> and nine out of the money by a couple points because we didn't do the proper amount of community engagement. we lost community engagement points uh and we weren't going to get a project. And I said, "Wait a minute. Geographic balance has said all these years that every county or region should get a project. And if this is happens, uh we won't Scott County won't get a project." And and so that carried the day and we did get a project that we did get that money. So it was a good thing. Um yeah. So, um, so did I talk about I'm I'm not sure. Did I mention the urban suburban yet? Did I? Okay, this was the next thing. Um, trying to redefine geographic balance. I I maybe went into that a little bit, but yes, I did obviously, but they wanted to define it, redefine it by being urban, suburban, and rural. that not by Scott County or Anoku County or Washington or whatever. Um, and I I said, "Well, you know, that's not really fair because Henipin County has all three of those." >> Some other counties, there's other counties that have all three of those. We don't have what you classify as urban. So, you could send all the money into those categories and still ace out other counties. Um, so that is not going to carry either. So, anyhow. Okay. on the uh first meeting with Leslie Vermillion and Lisa Fes the joint meeting with Shaki had a meeting with Matt Fighten from MVTA the AMC transportation discussion which I wasn't going to report on details but so I'm I'm not actually going to do that today STA board meeting um at SDA I learned that our representative Tapki has been telling STA people and others that he has nothing to do with this desire to wipe out the opt outs or eliminate out said he has just no no involvement with that and I I was very glad to hear that >> which uh I pointed out that that's not actually the case but >> that's the end of my report. >> All right. >> Can I just ask what >> Mr. Chair Commissioner that MVTA how did that how did those salaries get so high? Who like who's the boss? Well, that that the subcommittee, okay, there was a market study done and uh which um I've learned that Luther knew because it was going to affect his salary that he just delegated it to another top staff and wanted to be separated from it because he knew he was going to be impacted. So that that's one of the things that probably was a flaw starting and then they then there was uh some things that were thrown into the market study that like uh private trucking positions the MAC airports commission um others and then there's a question of whether what classification number you know they you know whether a 22 or a 24 or a 26 you know that where you're put in the hierarchy by number was also that's questionable too. So anyhow so that that that's what caused some problems and so I I don't have much more to say. We haven't met. We're meeting on Wednesday night and I won't be able to attend the Mariam Junction because I have this meeting coming up on Wednesday. >> That's end of my >> Okay. Thank you. >> All right. All right. I had a question too with with this transit transportation. Um, you know, some of our delegation is bent on no new lanes over the Bloomington Ferry Bridge, not even restriping on their uh ferry bridge because wants to put that money into transit. Um, which I think the bridge is, did I see 30 years old as of yesterday? 30 years old. Um, and so it feels like, I know we've talked about this a little bit in our workshops, but it feels like some of the transit type transportation is I feel like I want to say hellbent on continuing the infrastructure of like the 50s, 60s, and 70s of the metropolitan of tomorrow. Uh, of the the old things kind of the old ways uh which maybe works in urban, but out in suburban rural like we have new technologies, not Jetsons. I know we we're all going to have flying cars and paperless offices by now, but but the the driverless or or um or shared rides. Um does that even come up? I I know we have weather. I get that. Um but it just feels like we're just building an old antiquated system when we have infrastructure already in place that you can feed into. Like does that ever come up in those meetings? Well, we did a study uh on 169 that was a MinPass BRT study and my belief that the best chance to get another lane on 169 was to leverage the idea of Minpass and BRT as part of it. And BRT, you know, Minpass would use that lane, but that lane would also be open to the general public most the hours. Yeah, >> there, you know, it's restricted a few hours on the rush hours. >> And that was going to go from 169 to Highway 55 and into Minneapolis. >> And so we completed that study and that study involved us and um Shockby and Prior Lake brought some money from the old Blue Express and Mindad participated. I think Henipin County might have participated a little bit. I maybe not I'm not sure. >> They didn't participate financially. >> Okay. Well, they were there at the meetings. And so we had a lot of different people all along the corridor >> and that's a very long-term vision, very expensive. I mean >> it's my belief that uh even the bridges, not just the Bloomington Fair Bridge, but all the bridges that cross over 169. I don't know if they if they any of them can accommodate another lane if they would have to be changed. >> But anyhow, I think that's uncertain. Yeah. >> So this but this project will probably be 500 million now or something. I mean it's it's big dollars. >> Oh yeah, it would be. >> And so um the idea that I know it was expressed by a legislator that had the Met Council kept that 85 8.5% we would have gotten uh a BRT here on 169 and that's just nuts because it needs another lane to do that. You can't do there's bus shoulders on parts of it but not the whole thing. And and the nice thing about that study was it also directed um if we do any projects on 169 do them to accommodate accommodate a future lane. So there there was one project around the study time that's you know it's debatable I whether it was influ influence the building of it for the future. It was built to the future. I think the study helped influence that because it was right in the same time period. I guess others can debate the other side of that. Leslie challenges me on that point, but uh at anyhow, same order. >> No, I was just going to support Commissioner Alrich. I think the study at the time was like almost $300 million to do the infrastructure that was needed. It's only really the NM Creek Bridge. you see the additional width on that bridge when you go over it >> that has been built in that time period that would allow for >> but I think back to Commissioner Olrich's original point of is this the time to be building infrastructure for transit into the downtown right I mean during 23 when we advocated even for like the gold line and things should we wait and see what's going to happen and how people are moving and what does that look like in the suburban urban areas versus just the trek into downtown which seems to be consistent with what we're seeing in the um highway BRT. Um and so those numbers are down. It doesn't matter if it's the gold line, the red line, the orange line, they aren't fairing real well right now. Right. >> So to me, the highway discussion even at some point needs to separate from the transit discussion. You know, what is the need on that corridor? Well, and if I could um comment on this, you know, it's not just the COVID and the working at home environment that's affected ridership, it's that it's really the bad press that downtown has gotten and the with the safety and law enforcement and whether it's a safe environment. There's a whole bunch of people that they don't they maybe used to go downtown a lot. They they they don't really want to go downtown. I mean, it's changing unless they fix what's going on down there. Um, >> yeah, >> and it's not just Minneapolis. Um, there's a very fascinating article in the Washington Post on just the change in where people want to live and why they want to live there. Um, I think you see it in Wright County. I think you see it in Sherburn. I think you're seeing it in Mstead. You're seeing it in Blue Earth. there isn't necessarily the push for the traditional downtown living that you saw at one point. And so there's lots going on and before major investments get made in certain things, we maybe need to take a breath and see how some of this works out. >> Yeah. I mean, we're the data is there. You know, the last thing I don't think any of us want to build is another Northstar um down 169 or or wherever else where it would have been literally cheaper >> to buy people cars. Um not and that's not being dramatic. >> It it's not. But remember that was led by a county, right? A big push from that came from Anoka County to build that out and it was never completed all the way to a St. cloud or to some of those points that made it operate differently either. And so >> big picture, there's a lot you can say about that line, but clearly they've been trying to shut it down now for a while and it is suspended. And so that's a good thing. >> Yeah. And whoever I mean that that whether it's county, state, you know, cities, whatever. I mean, we need to be talking and looking at these things, that communication about what makes sense because uh we have a laundry list of things we would like to try to get done at at the legislature. And I really believe that money isn't the issue. There's money. Um if we can funnel it and find it and put it in the right spots, right? According to my opinion, some of our opinions. But anyway, so I that that's just it just feels like, okay, yeah, we see the data. Oh, oh, we got 400 new riders. It's like, well, in the context of things are still below. So what are we trying to sell and what are we I hope we're not buying that. I don't I know we're not buying that. >> Well, one more a couple more if I could. Uh the future of transit to me is going to be autonomous and it's going to be more u go everywhere. Uh it's going to be lower cost because there's no driver. The the autonomous vehicles will be small vans and they'll pick up multiple people along the way and in counties like ours there'll be more east west kind of transit than there there's ever been and um >> know that's the future. Uh, you know, I do want to point out um that Charlie Zeli did call the North Star line a brilliant tiny. Yeah. So, >> well, and that's where I I just feel like this is the antiquated. We've got the infrastructure in place that's not going away. Like, so figure out ways to feed into it, but why keep building a dinosaur? I mean, they're cool. Dinosaurs are, but um not when it comes to in my opinion, transit and transportation. just keep the infrastructure of sorts but find new ways to feed it instead of just build build. Anyway, wow, that was a very exciting report. We got lots of uh interaction on that one. So, we probably got a couple viewers out of that one. So, thank you for that. Um >> probably raise some >> Well, I mean, we're just having conversations, right? We shouldn't be worried about having conversations and where that might land and hopefully it leads to more conversations. Okay, my report on the 16th, um let's see. um had a landowner meeting uh regarding 17 after our board meeting later that afternoon on the 23rd head chair vice chair board workshop uh the 1618 open house as was mentioned prior lake city hall uh that evening the 24th MMCD uh race back here for the fish board meeting uh then that afternoon our prior lake quarterly trying to keep those comm lines open and then the annual township meeting which you know I always feel like I'm always saying that for I don't know how many years and probably will continue to say like townships are under pressures if you're living along you know especially 169 or 13 some of these major thorough affairs townships are under pressure um let's see here on the 25th met with commissioner Brekie and you know what she did have some opinions to share so I just want to affirm that was in your report that yes there were some opinions and always good conversation uh DYCF did I get those elemental ps right I think I did u te brown as was mentioned Um there was a there was a quite an entourage. There's a lot of people that came in uh to our um family resource center and for the presentation. Um and they were great about having an audible because as you we all know that that's under construction. So we had a kind of a little makeshift AV to try to get our points across. But I I mentioned or I we did introductions and and I I'm like, "Oh, that's that's an IT guy. Not probably the IT guy, but the one of the IT guys." So after the meeting, I'm like, "Hey, did I hear you said it?" Yep. Yep. Yep. I said he kind of stood back like, "Uh oh, no, no, no." He didn't jump back. I said, "I want to give you a big hug. You know, we need you. We love you. There's so many things that we want to change with it and we need we need your assistance with that." So, and I think Tiki got a picture of that cuz he said, "No, normally I I don't get this. It's a different response." I'm like, "Well, we need you. Um, we need lots of change and we want to, you know, we're here to help." Um, let's see. On the 20th, we had the 17 open house, which yeah, that was a little different than the 1618, but I think it was a great opportunity for people to, you know, have their opinions known in a in a public space, the comic cards. Um, and I know some people feel like, oh, nothing, you know, this is just a bump in the road or or a hurdle in the way of getting to the end, but I I did remind folks that based on the April meeting, which I know much of their sugar probably open house on 17, that some of those changes were a result of the open house. Uh, so, you know, I said, hey, we we are listening um and want to try to find a way that works. uh on the first uh because as was mentioned in our interested citizens, there's people that have been uh target I don't know what the right word is, but have had eminent domain eminent domain on their property multiple times in that corridor and I I I get it that that's that's rough. Um on the first I want to make sure I got this right. Um went down to Elanu Market. I think you you were there a little bit a little bit later that day. Um and then I just said a few words. Um there were it was it was hope for the community and feed the children and and I know that sounds like a similar name to a different organization but there was lots of boxes of food with feed the children I saw. So um different organization um with Niagara Bottling and their Niagara Cares uh you know being a good corporate steward which I think is one of the things they said you were probably in the middle of that at the city that hey we want to be a a company that is here not only to bottle water but also to give back to the community. So, there was a lot of blue shirts at that particular event. And the Reed mobile was there and I think Ally got in and out. She's not in here without uh getting any dents in the van. So, that was that was good. That was good. Um, let's see. Later that evening, we held our joint workshop and I think they had it as their one of their city council meetings with Shakipi. So, they were more official and so we just need to uh it was great to meet. hope we do that at least annually and of course we do our quarterly with them as well which I think you had talked about maybe bringing city council members to that like some of your other ones do might be a nice little little change uh on the 6th MEESB um oh no sorry 10 yeah that was uh it was Jill from MESB and then representative slash chief we'll just call him slash like uh one of those NFL stars that plays all those different um Steer was there and Leslie was here. Jake was there. Um and um Scott Hos came talking about how do we with the armor system was the main reason. Um but you know as we you know get time with our people that can make a difference, it kind of all these other things sort of kind of come out because I'm like yeah we're kind of shotgunning and trying to get a lot of things done but armor is a is a big one that we really want your um help with. And so he he had some really good insight of how to work with um not only that particular system but you know some of our other legislative priorities and and he's always been a great host. I think handful of us were down there for many different things but there was a little uh recess in the chamber and he kind of give us a little tour around and it was just it was just I I appreciate his definitely his willingness. Chief steer representative steer um you know really has an eye on trying to make things better. So I think oh let's see I feel like I have something else here. Um, oh, had a property walk. That's what it was. Uh, also on the 6th, which was yesterday, regarding the 17th or 17th, uh, Highway 17 project. Um, I am going to stop there and you guys are going to be our nice bookends when we come back from recess. So, it's a nice nice little cap on that. So, we have our commissioner reports. So, now I'm going to go back to because I believe we are well after 10:00. uh go back to 8.1 um since we were a little early before the 10 a.m. posted time and look at adopting resolution number 2025-239 approving uh conducting a closed meeting as authorized by Minnesota statute 13D3 to discuss labor negotiations strategy on October 7, 2025 at 10 a.m. or soon thereafter which we're now after as the agenda allows in room GCE-231. >> So moved. >> Second. We have a motion and we have a second. Is there any further discussion on this? Otherwise, all in favor say I. >> I. >> I. >> I. All right, we will recess um for this close meeting and we will be back. We are now in recess. I think it's that one right there. announcement. >> Okay, we are going to reconvene the October 7th, I don't mean to say that, but October 7th, 2025 Scott County Board of Commissioners meeting after uh being in a closed session. So, we did our our our committee reports. Uh the county administrator has mentioned that she does not have an update. So, I will look down to my right. County Attorney any updates or anything we need to be aware of or >> there is not uh Mr. Chair. >> All right. So moving to item number to adjourn. >> We have a motion. >> Second. >> We have a second. And before we do, we are going to be meeting uh after this board meeting for a budget workshop on uh community design, public records and internal services which as this meeting is always open to the public as is the same with our workshops. always open to the public. So we have a motion. We have a second. Any further discussion? Otherwise, all in favor say I. >> I. >> I. We are adjourned.