Yeah, thank you everyone for uh showing up this evening for our community forum uh seeking community direction. I'm Mike Redden. I'm the superintendent of schools here in Chaki and joined this evening by David Daskovich, our director of finance and operations and by Christy Peterson, our vice chair of our school board and president of Minnesota Schoolboard Association. I just want to make sure I title right. I know it was glad you could take time out of busy schedules and be with us this evening. And uh we're going to rattle through some information and then at the end there's there's time for interaction in the form of questions and happy to happy to do that. The school board is seeking direction um from our community in determining our school district's financial path forward. Uh we face uh budget deficits, not this current school year, but starting next school year, the 2627 school year, uh and the 2728 school year. In 26 27 that projected budget deficit is between 7 and $9 million and then in uh the 2728 school year it's between $1 and4 million. The box on the kind of bottom corner of this slide uh is just something maybe it's the uh social studies teacher and me you know who taught government and economics and things. But in Minnesota, it sometimes surprises folks that really the only form of local government that uh you know is required by law to uh bring you know a a desire for increasing revenue to the voters is public school districts and uh and that's in the form of an operating levy. Um you know cities don't do that, townships don't do that, counties don't do that. spent some time with uh you know with a county commissioner earlier this day. Um another part of that puzzle, it was really the first time that it that it hit me. Um in addition to being the only, you know, local government entity that has to bring a you know a special election to the voters, uh we're also by state law charged with running that election. And if you think of local government entities in our area, the city of Shakipi, Scott County, they actually run elections as part of their, you know, typical offering of services. Um, the one that doesn't, public school districts, the one that is, you know, required by law to bring an operating levy before the voters. Uh, certainly we appreciate we get, you know, lots of guidance and support from both the city of Shakipi and Scott County elections folks. Um, but that was the first time today where that really hit me that in addition, you know, to being the only local government entity required, you know, to use an operating levy and run an election, we're also kind of the oddball in the sense we don't do that as part of our normal normal offering of services. When we talk about the Shakp public schools operating levy that's on the ballot, if we cut, you know, right to the chase, um, and really hit on the the primary, the core reason, uh, the why, it's because the state's primary method of funding public schools in Minnesota via the general education formula allowance has fallen short uh, significantly short uh, of the rate of inflation in particular over the past four years. And when we look at the next slide, I'm not going to go into the the details, but uh of of every aspect of that and certainly this, you know, it's in the uh the flyer that you received. It's on our website as well. Uh this is something put together by Ailers. They provide financial services to many school districts in in Minnesota. And on this slide, it it shows the orange dotted line. that is what uh what public school districts receive in terms of that general education formula allowance or you know general aid or per pupil funding um goes by a lot of different names but uh that that orange dotted line is what school districts in Minnesota receive from the state of Minnesota. The blue line, that solid blue line, is what the school districts would receive if state funding kept pace with the rate of inflation. And you'll notice four years ago, there's it's signified by a blue arrow on that diagram. There's a gap between what that funding would be had it kept pace with the rate of inflation uh and what it is. that orange dotted line and that blue arrow shows that gap four years ago. And if you kind of follow over to your right, uh you'll notice that same size blue arrow is depicted again now on this diagram. Uh and then there's an orange arrow that joins it. That RJ arrow shows the growth in that gap between what we get in state funding as a public school district and what it would be if that state funding had kept pace with the rate of inflation. And that orange arrow is $6.3 million per year. And again, as an organization that provides services, you know, our, you know, we we've got costs that exist in the real world, our employee salary and benefits and other things. Uh, and so trying to keep pace with the rate of inflation, uh, is certainly important, but think that this graph depicts very well that that primary cause and the driving factor for why the school board voted unanimously to put a two question operating levy on the ballot. this November. Uh this slide on the left side shows the districts, our 11 what we call comparable districts. They're the districts we compare to in all kinds of things. We compete against in arts and activities and athletics. Um that group of 11 school districts in the last two school years, this year and last year, uh they made a combined $98 million in budget cuts. Shakipe public schools kind of have that green check box. Last school year our budget was balanced. This school year our budget is balanced. And as I mentioned earlier, next school year, the 2627 school year, uh we're facing a projected deficit of 7 to9 million and the year that follows an additional 1 to4 million budget deficit. As part of the proposed solution, the plan is for our school district to make 3 million in permanent budget cuts for next school year. Um, no matter what the outcome of of the operating levy. And you'll notice below that on the bottom part of that graphic, it says these budget cuts will not impact class targets, class- size targets, nor will they impact busing distances. Um, and then the expectation would be to make another 500,000 in budget cuts for the 2728 school year. Again, irrespective of the outcome of the operating levy questions. And then we get into another part of the possible solution, which would be the two question operating levy. And question one is seeking $620 per pupil, uh, which equates to just a hair over $5 million in revenue per year. And you'll notice there's a red banner on that one that uh you know has the words tax neutral. Uh in in Shakipi this year, calendar year 2025, uh we're in the final year of a 20-year uh loan uh which paid for construction of Eagle Creek, Jackson, and the West Pool. Uh that, you know, the taxpayers pay 5.16 million in taxes on that each year. uh they're doing so in calendar year 2025 and that debt is paid off at the end of this year. And so with that debt falling off 5.16 million if the voters approved the operating levy question one that would add 5 million uh in taxes for calendar year 2026. In essence, you know, an equivalent uh just in terms of the dollar amounts. And you know, a lot of folks pick up cuz I've shared that information before and they're going, "Well, wait a second. You said 5.16 and then you basically said a hair over 5 million. Those aren't the same numbers." That is true. Uh and the reason for that we we won't uh if we want somebody to get into the details we'll ask David but um is construction debt is calculated under something a form called a formula called net tax capacity operating levies are calculated under referendum market value. So two different ways of calculating the taxes. So looking at what would make it a a wash, you know, especially at the kind of average price home in Shakipi, uh, is how we arrived at those numbers. Operating question two would add an additional $310 per pupil or $2.5 million per year in operating revenue if it were approved by the voters. The cost of that uh on the on a $400,000 home would be $8.71 per month. And I make that point and we've got the the graphic there. I think there's a lot of numbers involved and especially when we get into the tax tables and things like that. But sometimes people see, oh, $310 per pupil. Is that what I'm paying in taxes? And that is not correct. And this the graphic is meant to show that the owner of a $400,000 home would pay $8.71 uh per month in taxes to fund question two. And there's more detailed. You've got the handout. There's tax tables with with far greater details than that. And then when we boil it down and folks, you know, they they really kind of, you know, want the nitty-gritty. They're like, just tell us what happens if. And so the answer to that is if the levy is approved by the voters, the school district will continue to provide a similar similar level of services moving into the future. And if the levy is not approved by the voters, the school district will need to make budget cuts to programming, services, staffing. Those cuts will impact class size targets and they will impact, you know, negatively impact our ability to provide services across the district. And this slide was created to kind of summarize all those parts of those proposed solutions. You'll notice the 3 million and the 500,000 kind of standalone. Those are the budget cuts irrespective of the operating levy outcomes. And then for question one, it's kind of an either eitheror proposition. If question one is approved, there's 5 million in additional revenue. If the voters do not approve it, school district will make 5 million in budget cuts for next school year. And then similarly, question two, if it's approved by the voters, would generate 2.5 million in revenue. If it's not approved, the school district would need to make 2.5 million in budget cuts. And if you kind of go left to right, you know, you heard about the projected budget deficits earlier. um you add the 3 million, the 5 million, you're at 8, then 8.5, 9, you know, you're at 11 million if you add everything across. And if you remember those targets for the projected budget deficits were between 7 and 9 million and 2627, 1 to 4 million in 2728. So between 8 and 13 million. This again hitting that mid-range to, you know, as we we deal with those projected budget deficits. You've got this information in front of you in in the handout. Um, and it just goes into detail on the different types of property and the the tax implications for question one. And then again for question two, I should mention the label there going to the cap. Uh, in the state of Minnesota, there's a maximum amount that school districts can put before the voters for an operating levy. Question two would bring Shakip public schools to that maximum or cap. And then this is a diagram combining question one with question two. So that in the far right of this slide uh you can see that uh those added together uh kind of the cumulative effect if both question one and question two were approved. And I should have mentioned earlier question two is contingent on question one. Meaning that uh question two can only be approved and go into effect if question one is approved by the voters. And then we it we've at different times um one of our board members Christie has uh uh very generously kind of opened up real life tax examples and thought all right we've got the tax tables you've got the kind of generalizations and wanted wanted her to share a real life property tax example and kind of walk through some of the details of that. So please >> thank you Dr. Redmond. So yeah, this is a real life property tax example of my home here in Shakape. My husband and I have lived in Shakape in our existing home since 2001. And obviously we've seen a lot of change or a lot of growth um as a result of the growth in Shakipi. Um this example goes back 8 years to 2018. Um the spreadsheet that I have actually is is goes back a little bit further to 2011. But the purpose of showing the past eight years is um one of the things that I continuously hear from people is um every year my school taxes go up. Why is that? And when you look at this real tax example um you can see over the past eight years that our school tax on my property here in Chaki has actually gone down. Um, if you look at the last two years on the uh right hand side of of the screen, 2014 and 2015, you can see that our taxes um, actually, I'm sorry, over the past eight years, our taxes have gone down for our schools um, a little over $160. And that includes an operating levy that was passed um, in 2021. um that was the renewal of our uh tech levy or our capital projects uh levy last year um by the taxpayers. And so I think that it's really important for people to take a look at overall what their taxes have done here in Shakipi, especially for our schools because as I said earlier, Shakipi has really grown and when we had that significant growth spurt in our community back in the early 2000s, we needed to build facilities pretty quickly to accommodate for all the students that that were coming in. And now, as you can see with our tax neutral question number one, some of those buildings are starting to be paid off, which is which is great. Um, and so if the voters would support question one and question two on November 4th, my taxes are still going to be lower on my house than they were in 2018. Part of the real life uh example is showing that our homes in Shakipi have really increased in value as well. You can see there that our home here in Shaki has increased over the past 8 years by a little over $100,000. And um you know, Shakipi is just um the value of our properties here in town have really gone up because people want to be here and we have a lot of great things going on in Shakipi and and so home values have gone up and that's pretty typical across um the entire metro where home values have really increased in in value. And then this last slide really shows um other than the grid that you saw on the first slide, it really shows what our property taxes have done here in Shakrapi um on my home over the past eight years. You can see that there was a pretty big drop in 2021 and that's when we did have some buildings that were paid for. Um, and that was also a time where you can see in 22 it jumped back up because we did ask for an operating loving 22 or the same dollar amount, um, uh, some of the same dollar amount as what dropped off in 2021. Um, and then you can see since 23, um, those taxes have continued to drop. Um, and so I guess one of the reasons why we're showing this is is to just reinforce the fact that our school taxes here in Shakipi actually haven't gone up every year. We've actually seen some nice declines in in our school tax. And one of the reasons why that is is we've had a decline in enrollment. And so school tax is all based on the number of students that we have in our schools. And so the fewer students we have, the taxes for the school district actually are adjusted accordingly on our property taxes. And the second reason is Shakipi is growing and we've had an increase in our net tax capacity. And what that means is the growth in residential properties here in Shakapei as well as the commercial and industrial part that is continuing to grow and businesses coming into Shakipi also impact the amount of taxes that we pay um as a resident. And so all of those are are factors and as Shakipi continues to grow, I would look forward and and see that our taxes are probably going to continue to be adjusted in a positive way for our schools, meaning positive from your pocketbook going down um to support our students. >> Yeah, thank you Christie. Um, there's a lot of information about the levy. I'm not going to to read everything on this list. Um, but there's there's great sources. I do want to point out that in the brochure you have, there's QR QR codes uh that will take you to your own property tax calculator. You do need to also, you know, maybe you know your parcel number off the top of your head. There might be one or two folks that do, but there's also the ability there's um a QR code that'll take you to the parcel number lookup. Uh and the reason for that is you want to make sure the information is precise exactly what's entered into the Scott County property and taxation record so that you're when you use that calculator, you're getting the best information possible. And you'll notice the website on the the top of this slide, shakylevy.org org that uh that link is trying to make it an easy to remember or get to link that will bring you to our school district website. There's lots of information there. Uh it'll bring you to our our operating levy pages uh with lots and lots and lots of information. And then there are a whole bunch of other places and um certainly we're happy to uh to help folks uh you know get information they need, answer questions and uh provide provide what we can. Um as far as voting goes, um the absentee early voting actually begins this Friday, September 19th. The election day is November 4th. uh you'll see the dates and times for the in-person, you know, hours for voting. Uh and it goes kind of from what what is referred to as absentee to early voting. And that has to do with the nature of how the ballots are taken care of. Um you know, the absentee is more like mailin even when it's done in person for a certain range of time. And then al later in that process it turns into early voting where um the ballot gets tabulated uh on you know at the same time. Uh election day voting on November 4th will be held at West Middle School unless you happen to be a member of our school district who lives in one of the two Prior Lake voting precincts in which case uh your voting would be at Prior Lake City Hall. And that's because Prior Lake, the city of Prior Lake has an initiative on the ballot. Uh, and that voting is at city hall. And when that happens, uh, the members of of those two precincts then, uh, do all their voting at that site. And the next community forum uh, is Thursday, October 23rd, same time, same place, 6 pm thrust stage. and then we'd open it up if uh if there are questions. Um again, we brought, you know, David for, you know, as our director of finance and operations, if you get really really challenging financial questions, we go right to him. So, >> is there other voting on November 4th or is it just for school? Yeah, I'm going to repeat the question because they're video recording and they've trained me well over the last few years to do that. The question was, is is there anything else additional on the ballot on November 4th? Um, unless you're in one of the two prior late precincts, the answer is no. It will just be the operating levy initiative, special election. >> How do we inform the general public that doesn't have children in the district about this? We Yeah, there I'm going to go back uh because I've got the clicker. We're using, you know, the hub has trying to fill some of that void. There's information there. We have a number of mailers um coming out. There's a notice of special election and information that goes to all registered voters and some of those go to all residents of the district as well. >> So, you're sending out separate mailings. we are part of that uh the I was going to say expectation but that isn't the right word the legal obligation if you're running an election there are certain pieces like that notice of special election and I'm looking uh at Tiffany Olsen who in addition to be our communications director is our elections expert um and is working closely with the county and the city to run the election so and >> what is the hub because I'm new to the You're correct with what you've shared. >> That's good. That's correct. That's all right. Time for me to go. The hub is um it's a local attempt. Um it's an online trying to be a a connecting point for information for the community. and it um was a a startup and it has a lot of participants and it's a place where uh you know they're posting videos of different things they're posting other you know news and information and to get to the hub hub >> it's so it's online only uh and it's the hub news and then you pick your city and shaky is on there but it is only online they do not have any print >> okay that's good I come from a city that had a daily paper Yes. >> Yes. >> Yeah. No, that that is certainly u as somebody who as a young kid uh had paper rounds, I grew up with that and and as a social studies teacher, I I also kind of uh I'm nostalgic with that. So, if I Googled Hub News Shakapi, it would show up. Great questions. Thank you. >> Well, I also want to know How can you win? You just have to have more more yes votes than no. >> Yes, it is a um a tie is a no. So, one more vote than even and it and the the um levy question is approved. >> Yes. >> First of all, thank you so much for all this information. Um A couple of feedback question. I think that the example that you gave around the amount of taxes for school and something. So I would suggest that you use that as part of your communication because I think that would actually people to understand that. Um the other thing is just um when you talk about services that could be cut, it's like kind of a broad like services. It's nice to make it a little bit more personal know that more classes classes would be offered. What are the types of things that would impact the kids that are in school that appreciate for their kids that no longer be there? And then um the question I have is what is the state doing then? I mean are they doing anything to try to address this gap? years or what's going on? >> I'm going to hope the camera picked up the first two points because those were very well stated and and very well put together and um try to answer the the third one, but also I'll refer back. We've Yeah, we're a little hesitant when you're taking one individual's taxes and we think when we can have the actual person present it and go, "Yep, you can go wherever you want, look that up." Uh, but certainly um appreciate that that resonates well and we've got to maybe think of, you know, there's always a little bit of, hey, you shared that. Well, that was just one person. What about mine? And that's where the tax calculator. So, we may we may try to find ways to share that more often. Um, and then sorry, what the the last question was >> just around what is the state of Minnesota doing? >> Oh, yeah. >> Yeah, I might have had selective amnesia there. Um, it's what what is the state of Minnesota doing in regards to uh school funding? Um, we might need a longer forum tonight. No, we we actually we're very appreciative. we get to work. Our our local representatives work very very hard. I think uh you know state budgets have to be balanced. I think trying to to figure out you know it it's a tough puzzle to figure out and we we spend a lot of time working with our local state legislators, working with others uh and trying to explain that it it's a very real challenge. uh we spend depending on whether you count our contracted service for busing, you know, 80% of our general fund expenditures pay for people for their salaries and benefits. If we count transportation, it goes up to about 85. All of those folks live in the real world where prices are going up by 2%. They expect, you know, their compensation to go up by 2% so they can break even in that world. And you know that that's very real as we're seeking you know excellence in our employees and folks that are committed and dedicated and will stay and and do the hard work. So it it is a it's an ongoing challenge. I've been in education, you know, my entire adult life and it's been a challenge my entire adult life and I think it's one of those things we said at lunch today. Uh, chatting with folks, I would love to and I I'm now, you know, I hope it happens. I'm not super optimistic. I would love to sit down and go, what is structurally balanced mean when it comes to funding public schools? What what is adequate? How do we determine that? And then how do we make that the baseline? Because we too often kind of go up and down and hey, wow, I I voted for this. Yep. But then you didn't vote for that general aid funding. And how does it all work out in the wash? And so we work uh we work very hard uh to be transparent in the work we do uh and share that with the public and I you know and and to use our resources and manage them well. So, I don't know anything. Christy, you spend a lot of time as president of MSBA and a member of our board. Anything? You know, you were just in Washington DC working on that part, too. Anything to add? >> No, I would just say that um all of the education associations in the state of Minnesota are at the capital every day. school districts are there on a regular basis um advocating for additional funding um regardless if it's uh special education or um any other programs that the state has control over. For example, the READ Act um school districts are really instrumental in that new uh curriculum and getting funding um to help support that and make sure that the teachers um were trained appropriately. Um and I know that Dr. Redmond um Mr. Clausage um spent a lot of time at the capital um telling our story here at Shaki along with other board members um because it's really important for people to know how does this impact Shaki schools and when I was in Washington DC last week that was a story I told all 10 of our congressional members this is the impact that it has on Shaki public schools and that's what they need to hear because at this to me at the state level, it's it's a big number and they don't really understand what that impact is on their individual districts in the territories or the the areas that they represent. And so the more that we can tell the stories and even as as residents here in Chakapi, I would encourage you to reach out to our representatives federal and state level and and advocate for more funding for our schools because the more that they hear from people um the more optimistic that we'll be about getting additional funding. It's just a challenge right now with the way the state is set up with our budgets and also at the federal level is it's it's a big challenge, but if we don't continue to um have our voices heard um it won't happen. Is it making the amount of money we need or is it partly not? I think the question was is the issue the amount of money we need or is it inflation and I would say you know this recent the you know the like I said the most previous four years um you know if we're not keeping pace with the rate of inflation um we live in that world you know the supplies we buy we heat buildings we do all those things you know the diesel fuel for a busing contract contractor our salaries and benefits. Um and so you know I think to me those two are interrelated. Uh this you know the most recent thing and at times and it and maybe I'll go back to this. There have been periods of time I think this will help me to to hopefully make sense of what I'm saying. There have been periods of time even when that gap is pretty stable and it exists, we adapt and we adjust. And then when we're on those stable stretches where that gap isn't growing, we tend to be able to operate. If you know, again, if if you know once once that gap is created, if then the funding stay keeps pace with inflation, which you know, there are some where that gap hasn't grown for quite a while. we've gotten pretty good at operating there. When it jumps up or when it bounces all over, really hard to navigate. So, they're they're kind of interrelated because yes, the total amount is obviously going to do that. Um, we're typically trying, you know, from my perspective, it's trying to receive adequate funding, you know, and I'll even, you know, make the point it's factual. Uh, we're talking about something called an operating levy. today. I've been in education long enough when that was introduced that you know like 30 years ago which I was going to say when I was new to education but I should have done even further back now. That shocks me a little bit. Um it was referred to as an excess levy because the thought was that hey the state will provide adequate funding and then local districts who want to go above and beyond would tap into this excess levy. Um, and what we're talking about when we're talking about continuing with the programming we have, that's not excess. That's maintaining what we think is adequate in terms of of the services we provide. So hopefully that made sense. Um, and it again there's great complexity in that. So it's going to be, you know, we could ask 10 different folks and 10 different perspectives on that. But >> and Oops. I'll just add to that. One of the the challenges of of funding for schools is that we get a finite amount of money. And if our costs go up, we still get the same amount of money where in in the business world, we can increase our prices or we can make more widgets to increase our revenue. School districts, you have x amount of money and that's all you have to work with. regardless of your prices or cost of goods is going up or down. And and that's what makes it so challenging and why the rate of inflation and this chart is so important to understand because that's where the difference really has been. And and I I think to the the state of Minnesota, was it two years ago, made the maybe it's been three where they made the uh decision to increase our our funding by the rate of inflation for this was the first school year that we received it. And so they adjusted it based on I think it was 2.74% this year, but then they didn't give us any sort of an increase on the formula. um the per per pupil amount of money that we get which we typically would have received. So if it was typically 2% they replaced it with the um in rate of inflation which was 2.74%. So instead of adding them together and giving us nearly 5% they only gave us the one and that was something that we feared when that passed that that's what would happen and and it did. >> That's really helpful. That's what I was kind of wondering for procedurally like does Minnesota have in their process where they adjust for so that helps you guys. >> Yep. And that's brand new that is in effect this school year is the first school year where it's at 2.74 although that is also capped at a maximum of three but it was that did not exist up until this year. And a lot of years, you know, you you we would spend a a fair amount of time at the legislature. Some of those years, the uh the initial sort of legislative approach was zero and zero, you know, and when you're on the receiving end of that, you're like, that means, you know, either we need to go to the voters to raise more revenue or cut programming, cut services in order to balance the budget. Um, yes. >> So, our federal funding and our Minnesota state funding are different pots of money. Yes. >> Yes. >> And they go for different things. They're able to be used for different things. >> Yes. Our federal funding makes up a a much smaller portion of of our total revenue. State funding makes up the giant share of that. federal funding provides special, you know, funding for part of special education. Um, originally the the thought was the federal government was going to fund 40% of the costs of special education. I believe I heard you say my my most recent number was they're at 14 and I think you said last night they're at 10. And so then that then falls on the state to make up that difference. and then they provide money for what we would call title funding. Uh where you're trying to provide, you know, extra support for learners who need that. And again, um the federal part of our budget is I don't know if you have a percentage off the top of your head, David, but roughly >> he's looking he'll pipe in, but it's a much smaller share. I would just one more. I would also like the social med. And then seeing that go back and look at my email. I wouldn't have seen it probably through email or just website but just seeing those flashes on social people that might be a lot of parents are on social activities or sport. So I would kind of lean into that too. >> Certainly. Thank you. And we do have what's called education forward our newsletter and that is going out to how many homes? >> 35,000. 35,000 homes and should hit the mailboxes the end of this week. >> That's correct. >> And then I think sometimes we like to echo that or amplify that or try to, you know, do that as well, but no, great point. Thank you. >> And sometimes you have signage out, but maybe not always. Well, we as a public school district, we legally we inform. So those when people put signs up, they're part of persuasive groups or out, you know, other groups in the community. So our job is to inform. Um other groups will sometimes, you know, have different types of efforts to to help others p and be persuasive. But that again, that's a Minnesota state law thing. Is this video? >> Yes, it'll be available uh online and actually chunks of this will be portioned out for social media as well to make it quick and digestible to your point as well. So, great feedback. Thank you. >> I have a question. When it comes to the comparable districts, how many of them have this like how do we want to make sure I've I've moved to the uh the right slide here and I I think I did. This this shows additional revenue. It shows operating levy revenue and what's called Q comp or quality compensation. And that's an excellent question because a number of those districts the you know Minnetonka Hopkins um you know they're at the cap and then you know where you look under the operating levy column and then sometimes you go but there's numerical differences. There's that's this is a really hard concept to explain. We had, you know, the school board had to approve an operating levy this summer by law. Uh, our, you know, our actual calculations in terms of enrollment and the exact specifics of that won't be set until our truth and taxation in December for 2026. So, you'll see sometimes minor differences in numbers for districts at the cap when you go, hey, there per pupil amount of operating levy. Um and then some of them uh had things in place and the legislature then would sometimes create a cap that let some remain higher than the cap. But there are a few of those are at that. They're currently lobbying the state legislator, the state legislature to raise the cap because they have no choice at this point in order to balance their budget. they have one one lever, one tool and that is cutting budgets. >> I just wanted to check in with the federal funds for FY2526. Um federal funds for the budget of revenue is 1.8% of the total revenue based on our pre budget. Thank you. Any other questions? Again, we started with saying very appreciative of you taking time out of, you know, I'm sure busy lives to be with us this evening. We do appreciate that. Um, and uh we're happy to to help continue to provide information. Uh, but thank you for uh thank you for being here this evening. We do appreciate it. Have a have a great evening.