[Music] We'll call a Shockby City Council meeting for June 3rd, 2025 to order. And if we could have the clerk take the role, please. Council member Delaney here. Council member Whiting here. Council member Contreras here. Council member Laura here. And Mayor Layman here. Item number three. Please join us in the pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. That takes us to item number four, approval of the agenda. Is there any changes to the agenda from councelor staff? Uh just one from staff sir. Uh you'll find on the dis resolution number 2025069 which was in inadvertently left off of item 10E. Nothing has changed. We had just did not have the resolution attached. 10E donation of the AED station. Okay. Anything council? Mr. Lara? Um I can make a change with um general business. I want to would like to change uh swap out 10 A and B with 10 D and E. So moving 10 D and E up to the first two for the sake of time of them being shorter. Okay. Um you don't want to put them on the consent agenda. You want to move them up. I just want to move them. Yeah, we'll move them up to like let's uh make 10 D 10 A and 10 E 10 B and then make 10 A 10 D and 10 B 10 E. All right. So 10 D will become 10 A. 10 E will become 10 B. Correct me if I get this wrong, counselor. That's correct. 10 B will become D. Oh, B is E. Yeah, that will be E. That'll be this one. So, yeah. And it's back. It's music. Well, we've got A B C D E. So 10 A would be E. Okay. And 10 B could stay the same. Correct. Uh, nope. 10's 10B would be what? We'll let you know what get there. 10B would be come 10 D. Yes. Yes. So, just make sure we're on the same page. 10 A would be monetary donation. 10B would be donation of AE. 10 C would be uh code amendment for offenses. 10 D would be final platter ritual in court. 10 E would be the financial audit. Correct. Okay. Oh, our auditor is just loving Mr. Reynolds. I was just going to say, mayor, or you can also just simply state that 10D and 10E will be the first two items that we'll address under item 10. Okay. Anything else? Wishes a council, Miss Miss Contrus. Um, I make a motion to approve the agenda as modified. Is there a second? Mr. Delaney. Discussion on the motion. Discussion. Seeing none, all in favor say I. I. I. Opposed. Motion passes. Item number five is our consent agenda. Any changes to the consent agenda? Nothing from staff, sir. Counceling. Motion to approve the consent business as presented. Second motion by Mr. Whiting, second by Miss Contrarus. Any discussion on the motion on the motion? And yes, if staff would go ahead and read that consent agenda, please. Thank you, Mr. Mayor, members of council. These are the consent agenda items for Tuesday, June 3rd of 2025. 5A is a declaration of surplus fire department property. 5B is Walmart Foundation Spark Good Local Grants Program application and award. 5C approves a license agreement with the SMSC for the 2025 SCADA system expansion project. 5D approves an extended construction hours for the County Road 78 and County Road 79 roundabout project. 5e accepts bids and awards a contract for materials procurements for the Minnesota Riverbank Protection and Parks Integration Marina Equipment Project. 5F authorizes the submittal of a letter of support for the University of Minnesota Center for Transportation Studies Safe Streets and Road for All grant application. 5G adopts a resolution of support for the downtown quiet zone for the 2026 state capital budget request. 5H authorizes execution of a construction cooperative agreement with Mandot for the Mary'stown Road Corridor improvement project. 5 accepts a proposal from WSB for construction services for 2025 private development projects. 5J approves the city council minutes for May 20th of 2025 and 5K approves a tobacco license for Northstar Regional Men's Treatment Center. Thank you, Mr. Reynolds. We do have a motion and a second. Any discussion on the motion? Seeing none, all in favor say I. I. Opposed. Motion passes. Item number six, public comment. If you're here for an item not on the city council's agenda and would like to speak with the city council, now would be your time to do so. Please step up to the table here and then give your name and address for the record. I don't think we have a sign-in sheet. Normally, we'd have a sign-in sheet. So, if you're here for an item not on the agenda and would like to address council, now would be the time to do so. Anybody? Last call. Okay. Item number seven, business removed from the consent agenda. Nothing was removed. Item number eight would be recess for economic development authority meeting. Mr. Lara, make a motion to adjourn to the economic development meeting. Is there a second to the motion? Second, Mr. Delaney. Discussion on the motion. Discussion. Seeing none, all in favor say I. I. Opposed. Motion passes. We'll call to order the June 3rd, 2025 meeting of the Shock Economic Development Authority. Uh please make note of the role. Uh next item on the agenda would be uh item two, approval of the agenda. Member Leman. Mr. President, I'll make a motion to approve the agenda. Second. A motion and a second. Uh, any discussion? Discussion. Discussion. All in favor say I. I. Any opposed? Motion passed. Uh, consent business. We have nothing on the consent business tonight. So, how about number four, general business 4A. We're going to talk about a partnership with Canterbury on the feasibility and design of the southern 28 acres adjacent to the amphitheater. Mr. Kursky. Good evening, chair and board members. Um, so one of the things we're going to talk about is this potential partnership. The site's very unique in the state. Um, this really creates a case study and a precedent example of other markets that'll be examined. Completing a market study of what is the best attractions for the Shakabe market. How do we make this a major destination for the region beyond the assets we currently have? And then data market points to market the potential unique attractions that could be coming here. And then Canterbury interviewed some of the top firms in the country to get us to where we are today. So this is the area that we'd be studying. Get this to work. Um the blue kind of out yellow outlined area is the lot that eventually will end up in the uh EDA. That's the lot that's dedicated 40 days a year for use by the amphitheater. Otherwise, it's free public parking for the rest of the development. So, Canterbury is recommending Hunden Partners. They're the leading adviser in destination real estate development in the US. Um they've got over 20 billion dollars planned or built assets. Um they've completed over a thousand studies. This map kind of gives you an idea of all the areas that they've covered. The partner for this project will be Mike Tissson. Um his big project he's had he's um done a lot of development in the region. Um and then be followed up with a director. He's got 120 projects and he's done full cycle project management. We have two of the top people in the firm working on this. Here's some of their uh projects they've completed in the past. Churchill Downs, they did a hotel and gaming facility study for them. Um, Chandler, Arizona, the Wild Horse Pass, uh, Rawhide Event Center, mixeduse development. They did this study. This is actually, uh, under construction. Westfield, Indiana, they did an area wide master plan and mixeduse entertainment lifestyle district around uh, their Grand Park. This is kind of similar in scale to what we're thinking about for potentially uh, the area by the amphitheater, Overland Park, Kansas. They did the Blue Hawk Sports anchored mixeduse development. In California, they did a family entertainment zone, which is a mixeduse district adjacent to the Great Wolf Lodge and Sports Park there. And then these are some other projects they've done through uh out the country all the way from or US area, San Juan, Puerto Rico down to Cleveland, Ohio. And then they've also done a number of boutique hotels and unique lodging developments because I think one of the things that Canterbury and we are looking for is to really create something that's very special and different that's just not replicated in the Twin Cities market. So these are some of the research tools. Placer AI is probably the leading tool right now in the country um that tracks where people go and what attracts them. These are other EZRI is the software the city currently uses for GIS. These are just other um software that's out there that's tracking people and information. So these are some of the influences for viability in the recommendations including the access visibility and adjacent uses our local market competitive supply in the market what the economics are currently in the industry and what are the realities comparable peer cities to um shakip and what the existing demand is. So this is just some of the mapping that they've done for other cities. We'll get something similar to this that'll show us what areas we draw from and what areas we could be drawing from. On the architecture side, once we have the tool for what potentially could go to Canterbury, RSP Architects, who's actually on the city's approved architecture list, um they've already done these very early concepts for the city. They would then take that and truth this out to real projects that potentially then would be marketed as a tool to potential developers. Here are some of the other projects they've done that are very similar. They're based in Minneapolis but a national firm with a pretty diverse portfolio of projects. This is a major redevelopment um of a shopping mall that was torn down which now includes hotel housing and entertainment. Happy to answer questions. All right. Any questions of staff? A member layman. Mr. President, um the first question I had I have two. The first question was will um traffic analysis be part of this? So, excuse me, mayor and council, we did an exhaustive uh traffic analysis analysis as part of the EAW and included this area and potential demand for future. Some of you will remember um the run the council there was discussion of a potential signal I go back to the map that might be warranted someday um right where the current this is UPS's main facility and there's a delivery trucking service in the back of the old Murphy warehouse the potentially long-term uh depending what goes here there could potentially be a signal right here that was identified in the EAW. Okay. Right. The uh other question I had was the uh it says cost not to exceed 100 100,000 from the EDA's um administrative. So it's from um chair and board members. It's from the administrative funds from the Canterbury TIFFs. So that fund over the 25-y year life will accumulate I think over $4 million and either we spend that on projects like this or eventually it'll go back to the state. So our goal here is to try and speed this project along by getting this developed since the city has tiff bonds that are currently being paid from all the projects over here. getting this built out will expedite the payment of those bonds and the revenue to the city. The reason I ask is because that, you know, we talk about bringing back a branding firm at a later date and I was wondering if the branding firm if if that's included in a not to exceed or if it's a separate thing. Chair and board members, it's included in the not to exceed. Okay. Any further questions? Mhm. So, what I'm what I'm hearing you say is that this group is going to come in and do all the digital tools and all the uh marketing analysis that they're going to need to uh put together a package to find out what would be good for this area in this uh entertainment district and then market to that specific group. Is that right, Chair? That's exactly correct. So, um, we've already had some very preliminary discussions with hotels, but what's the right hotel that will not only benefit the corporate community here, but also serve the amphitheater and other uses here. So, I think before we just jump onto a use, we'd like to see, particularly at this corner, you know, this is highly visible, what other, if you think of this as a shopping mall, one of your anchors is the amphitheater. What's the other anchors you have down here to draw people back and forth in the the firm's other projects seem to uh the first slide I think you said it's a unique project and um this is quite a a unique project because it is they got the amphitheater. It's got the Canterbury. We got the hotels around. Um I would like to see the best use of that space and I think it could be uh done really well and I'm hoping can't wait to see what they come up with. Any other questions? What's the wishes? Is this just information? Information is approval. This This is a There's a You're looking for action. Yeah, I can do or member Lar make a motion to approve the partnership with Canterbury to reimburse on 50% of the extended cost not to exceed $100,000 from the EDA share for professional services for the market feasibility study for the southwest development consisting of approximately 28 acres. The firm chosen are what is it? Huden Partners market feasibility economics 115,000 and RSP architects 50,000 for the design. we will bring back to council to brand the branding firm at a later date. Second. We have a motion and a second. Uh um one comment I'll make is I think the branding would have to come later. You want to know what you're going to put in there before you put a brand on it. So um any other comments. Discussion discussion. Discussion. All in favor say I. I. Any opposed? Thank you. I look forward to this. So no. All right. We're on to our next item. release the lease amendment for River City Center concrete mobility. Mr. Kursky, chair and board members, this is the last renewal for concrete mobility. They'll be vacating after this, but if you remember, they are a good tenant. They only have a couple people that work there. They pay us six months in advance. Um, but that'll give us a chance to go out and work up the space. Questions of staff? Go ahead. questions, but um if we're ready, I can make the motion. Go ahead. I'd like to make a motion to approve additional lease term with concrete mobility for one year uh July 1st, 2025 to June 30th, 2026 at the rate of $18.91 or 4,000 per month. Second. Uh we have a motion by Contraras, second by Delaney. Uh any discussion? Discussion. Discussion. All those in favor say I. Any opposed? Motion carries. Um, next on our agenda is the EDA bill list, item 5A. There any questions on the bill list? None. None. No. No. All right. Uh, without any descent that we can move to adjourn to July 1st. Go ahead. Make a motion to adjourn to July 1st, 2025 at 7 p.m. Is there a second? I'll second. A motion to second to adjurnn. Any discussion? Discussion. Discussion. All in favor say I. I. We stand adjourned. Thank you, President Whiting. That brings the city council to item 10. I'm going to get myself all confused here. 10A, which is monetary donations for aquatic programming. Evening, mayor and council. It is my pleasure tonight to introduce you again to Sue Westard who has continuous support for our water safety program um with the parks and recreation department. The action we are seeking tonight is approval of the monetary donation. But I would like to give Sue the opportunity to come up and speak. Mayor, members of the city council, and members of the audience, my name is Sue Westard, as most of you well know. Uh, and I'm here again to ask you to accept my donation for the women's water safety class. Um, this me this donation is in memory of my mom, Helen, and my best friend, Kathy. They were my biggest cheerleaders. Um, they encouraged me to learn to swim during the summer or the winter of 2018, excuse me, 2018 to 2019. And believe me when I say I needed the encouragement. Um, Kathy watched the live stream of H Council meeting that I spoke at. And every night after class, she would expect me a phone call so I could share the progress that our students had made. I sure miss sharing that progress with her. First, I I would like to take a moment to thank the city of Chakapi for its support of the community center. Thank you to the staff who teach our daily water rubbish classes. Thanks to the maintenance crew that keeps the center so clean and to the front desk folks who are so very welcoming. And I I would really like to thank Katie Meyer, who's on maternity leave, who continues to support my ideas. I have been remiss, however, I have not taken time to thank the Shakape community education staff. They're the ones that continue to make arrangements for us to use the pool at East Middle School. I feel like I should say thank you eight times because they continue to work with us. Um, my thanks to everyone who makes this program a success. Our volunteer teachers, Jacqueline, Penny, Judy, Carmen, Anne, our receptionist, Ellen, our lifeguards, and our participants. I want to tell you just a brief story. One of my students from session seven surprised both me and herself. After quite a few classes of frustration, we finally got the elementary backstroke down and she swam all the way across the pool. In case you didn't know, that's 75 ft. When I told her to turn around and grab the side of the pool, she said, "How did I get here?" She gave me a great big hug. Nearly drowned both of us. Um during the last class she also decided she wanted to jump into the deep end which one of the that's one things we work on is getting them comfortable with falling in jumping in and getting to the side and saving themselves during that when she turned over onto her back she kind of panicked a little bit and swallowed some water and I thought oh dear after about five minutes of conversation back and forth she and I she said I said, "Well, what do you what do you want to do? Do you want to climb out the side or do you want to swim to the other end?" She decided she wanted to swim to the shallow end. When she got there, there was a whole group of our participants and teachers just cheering and whooping and hollering and crying. We were celebrating. What an accomplishment. She just could not believe that she had done that. She had accomplished that. The reward that my fellow friends who teach with me and I get out of this class is probably more than our students get out of it. They become comfortable, but we feel like we're actually building women up and giving them a skill that's a life skill. So, thank you. Thank you. You may you may get the benefits now, but teaching people to swim if they ever need it could save their life. So noble noble of you. Thank you very much. Thank you. Really quick, Sue, this is the eighth season. Is this the eighth one? Eight. Thank you so much. Wishes a council. Mr. Delaney. Yes. I'd like to make a motion to approve resolution R2025-062 accepting monetary donation of 1500 from Sue Westerard for the women's water safety program. Mr. I'll second. We have a motion and a second and discussion on the motion. Discussion on the motion. Very generous over the years. We appreciate it and and thank you for all that you do for the swimmers. All in favor say I. I. I. Opposed. Motion passes. 10B is donation of AED safe station at Jose Leper Stadium. Good evening, mayor and council members. AEDs may make a significant difference um when faced with a life-threatening emergency. And tonight is my honor to introduce Jenny Hastings who is join or is donating an AED save station for our Schleer stadium and she is here tonight to tell you a little bit more about it and the action that we are seeking is approval of the donation of the AED safe station at Seper Stadium. Thank you. Welcome. Thank you Mr. Mayor and council members. My name is Janie Hennis. I am a lifelong citizen of Shakapei and I am also the AED coordinator for the Shakapei public schools. I started in 2018 and to present we have 56 AEDs that have been installed inside and outside of the Shakabe schools and um we are sitting really well and 43 of those have been donated by um area businesses and citizens and um that's pretty impressive actually. Yeah, I am a critical care nurse by trade and cardiac specialty and I saw the need and I ran with it. So, awesome. Uh, what I'm here for tonight is to uh receive permission to put the AED safe station that you see in the back of the room um up at the Jo Schleper Stadium. So, this AED save station is a gift from Advanced First Aid. Advanced First Aid is the company uh that I have worked through to put all the AEDs into our school district. They have given us um generous donation or not donations but um discounts and um helped make it happen. So this gift is from AFA Advanced First Aid who's owned by Paul and Melissa Mendoza. This uh station is $4,800. It also comes with uh cell service which is $499 that will carry this AED station for four years and then we will need to rediscuss if the city would need to cover it or if possibly the Joe Stadium fund will cover it. Uh what's up there currently at the Joe Stadium up at Tapa Park is an AED within a white box cabinet and that's what all our AEDs are housed in. This unit is hardwired and it will be hardwired and vented to accommodate hot and cold weather. It could stay out there all season, but I'm informed by Keith Reigns that um nothing really goes on up there. So, we would probably pull the AED out from there. The AED we're going to use in that unit. That unit is just a storage unit. Um, it pulls open and as you can see, it says smile. The minute you start jiggling that that case, it starts to videotape you. And it won't stop screaming for two minutes. So, if any teenagers want to try and do anything to it, they're going to be surprised and they'll be on camera. Um, we have had those AEDs in the school district since 2018. We've never had to use them, thank the Lord. And, um, just recently, we had one stolen out of the case, but it was found in the garbage out at Saber St. uh, Saber Fields. So, it was retrieved, but hopefully we can stay lucky on that. So, I'm looking for the permission for this. The AED that will go in here is um the one that's currently donated by the baseball community up there and they they funded it. They funded the cabinet up there. They fund the maintenance of it. Um so, we will just use that AE this time. My ask is possibly for the future for the city. Um the guidelines for an AED access is two minutes. If if you would collapse next to me, it should take me less than two minutes to get an AED. Anyone that's been to Top of Field knows that if you're standing at the Joe Schlapper Stadium and someone goes down on field one, there is no way on a busy day or night you're going to make it in two minutes there and back if you need something. My ask for the future is to consider a safe station for the first pavilion by field. I think it's still fields one and two and uh an a system that would come to a cost of $8,000. So, I don't know if anyone's listening right now that could donate to this cause, but I think it would be well worth it or for consideration for the city. Uh the new AED that I would love to fund for that is uh $2,700. The great thing of that AED is the it would be bilingual and it would um the patches. I don't know how much anyone knows about an AED, but when you put the patches on a chest in the schools, we have two sets of patches. You have an adult patch and you have a child patch. Um the elementary schools carry the child patch. The new AED that can go in this system accom one patch accommodates both. So, if you think if you're at the Joe Stadium and that playground right there, if something goes on and a child goes down, someone can grab that AED and put the patch on and the machine will read it and it's bilingual. I think it's awesome. So, that is my golden ask, but um Okay, questions from council, Mr. Whiting. So, this is just the cabinet and you're going to use the existing AED, correct? Okay. So, I just need permission for it to go up on the wall. We've already I've been speaking with uh Keith Reigns and so we've gone through all the channels until tonight and then um we also have Choice Electric has taken a look at the It needs to be mounted up on the wall. This is not a tower, it's a cabinet. Okay. And Choice Electric will be mounting it for a cost of $1,300. and I called them and they're they're going to donate it. So, Oh, good. We're $1300 to the better. Don't the pads also expire and need to be replaced uh every four years. So, you get some time on those. Well, that's not a city thing. That would be the baseball people. They take care of that part of the maintenance that the baseball field is doing on their AE. So, if you look on the side of the sta um save station, the front says Shockby Sabers because Shak Savers um occupy that. And on the side it says donated by Paul and Melissa Mendoza, but it also now says uh Joe Schleer Stadium Fund. Okay, which is all the groups of baseball people that use it. That'll be [Music] connected. Other other questions from council? I was just I was just going to ask so a lot of people aren't too sure about how to go about if they have to use this thing. Okay. Do you have to be specially trained? You know, there's there's rumors out there that the thing talks to you talks a person through this. Just a brief overview of how these work. It's fully automatic, which means uh you need to open it up and it'll talk to you. It'll say power on. Then you listen for the next. It'll say put the patches on. And there's full directions right within the AED to where you put the patches. It'll say shock advised or shock not advised. And then you can press the button. If it says shock advised, you push the button. Mhm. Okay. Now is there is training for that. I'm not sure that it's required. It will walk you through that. It's fully automatic. you can any and then you're covered through the good Samaritan law if you do try and use it. So, um but there is training. Yep. I I thought there was Yeah. All right. Wishes of council. Thank you very much for coming. Thank you, Councelor Contrarus. You I'd like to make a motion to approve the donation of an outdoor AED saving station at uh the Jo Leopard Stadium. Second. Second by Mr. Whiting. Is there discussion on the motion? discussion. Seeing none, all in favor say I. I. Opposed. Motion passes. Thank you. Thank you. So, if I have my correct 10 C would be the ordinance amending uh fence replacement. I didn't move those forward technically. We just moved the two. But if you wanted to do it backwards, we could. I had a b cde e and I went over that. Right. C is the one that didn't change. So So that 10 C is the one we were on since we did A and B. Um ordinance amending section 111.02 fence construction. When you're ready, I'm going to see if I can find this since it's come out of order. Here we go. Good evening, mayor and council. Uh, as you mentioned, this is a text amendment to city code section uh 1.02, fence construction and placement regulations. This has been literally years in the making. Uh, city staff is requesting this current section be repealed and replaced to accommodate multiple changes to the ordinance, including clarifying the application requirements, including written notorized permission from adjacent property owners if a fence is proposed to be constructed on the property line or physically connecting. So, if you literally are putting the fence on the property line, you would need the neighbor's permission. Or if you're connecting to their fence, you would need the neighbor's permission. you could still put it off the property line uh with a normal permit. Um the situation we have in several places in town and elsewhere in the community are two fences like this because nobody wanted to put it on the property line. Um so this covers that creates a definition. Doesn't that create that? No. So if you if your property if you want to put a fence on the property line which is currently code and your neighbor doesn't want you to they can say no. So currently you can't put it right on the property line. You can put it up to the property line. Yes. And you could still do that right up but not across. Correct. So a good example today um Amanda Schwabi who's been working on this for since she started almost two years ago. Someone put their fence over the property line onto the neighbor's property. No one ever said anything. A new person bought that house, had it surveyed, and sure enough, it was four feet onto their property. So, they had it removed, and they're now building a new fence of their own, but not putting it on the property line because now the own property owners are in dispute. And so, typically the biggest issues we have in the city is when the neighbors don't get along or there's some issue that has nothing to do with the fence, that has something to do with something else. if they can't agree to put it on the property line, they put it just slightly off the property line. So, that's what this person's doing. Um, they're actually putting it a foot off so they can get on the side and do maintenance to it. That's not what this says. It says adjacent property owner is required as part of any fence permit application if a fence is proposed to be constructed on the property line or if a proposed fence will physically connect. So if it's on the property line which is correct which right up to the line like on the line. So we most of the people now have surveyors that go out the fence companies got good enough with GPS that they'll actually plot where the line is and so if you want it right on the line which is kind of half of yours and half of mine you need their permission because it's actually partially you know on the plane it's part partially on their property too. Most neighbors agree and in my neighborhood, every fence is on the property line. Um, but there are a couple instances in my neighborhood where there's a fence over here and a fence over there because the neighbors didn't get along. All right. Well, that's not I mean it's written might need to be cleaned up in that language then. Okay. Do you have more of a presentation or do we want to ask questions now? I have more, sir. Go ahead. Okay. Creates a definition of opaque because that's been an ongoing issue as long as I've been here. What does opaque mean? Clarifies prohibited materials such as barb wire, razor wire, concertina wire, materials with a capability to carry hold emit electrical current, sheet metal, pallets, or another non-exterior rated wood. We have a fence in town that's made out of pallets, chain link with a thickness less than 11 gauge and plastic slats mesh in in chain link fences. So chain link fences are required to have a top rail. That's so they don't sag. clarifies a temporary plastic snow fence up to four feet in height placed out on the rightway easements and sight triangles are allowed without a permit between October 1st and April 1st. That's to keep snow from crushing landscaping or mounting in certain areas. explains maximum height of 4 feet for fences and structure setback in the shoreland overlay district and no fence allowed below the 100year high water level of a lake stream river wetland wetland buffer or storm water basin without permission from the city engineer or their design. So, we have this issue that goes back many years where we have fences actually in the overlay district where we hit a 100red-year event. They're underwater. So, it creates an obstacle in the floodway. Reduces the appeal period from 30 to 10 days. All the appeals in the city code on our side are either seven or 10 days. So, it makes it the same. That appeal is to the board of adjustment and appeals. and it removes language requiring review by the city's historic preservation advisory committee which doesn't exist anymore. Changes are proposed to provide clear direction on construction and placement requirements and the ordinance would be effective upon approval and publication. There we go. That's it. Mayor. All righty. Thank you, sir. Mr. Whiting. So on that uh provision under uh generally a section two which I had questions on the fence line, I would suggest we add the words uh it says existing fence and adjacent property line but not across but but not but not past. So it says that it's on the line. It says you can't build it on the line without your neighbor's permission. But it should say up to the line but not across because you can build it right on the line. I I I I I I agree with much of what you're saying. There's some other issues in here too that I think need to be looked at. Okay. I have a couple more and I'm wondering I'm wondering if um because we have a lot of fences out there right now that are on the property line and they were built with permits. Correct. And those would all be conforming, right? Um, and is and if the permitting process if they're not encroaching and they're on the property line, I don't I don't I don't think that you need the you should need the property neighbor's permission. Otherwise, the neighbor's denying you the use of your cartilage and that's that's not allowed in if you had to connect it on his property or their their property. Well, there you need their permission. Yeah. Right. I would understand that. Absolutely. So, I I agree with you on that. Um, do you have more or do you want others to Well, the the appeal process concerns me. I mean, it takes seven days to get your permit approved and now they want to cut you down to an appeal on, you know, I think I think the 30 days on an appeal is is not an issue on a fence. This is we're talking about typically homeowners here. So, it's uh I have a problem with the appeal. Thank you, Mr. Whiting. Any any other council members? So So mine is um I'm looking at the new ordinance, not the red drafting. Um it would be 285 section two. Um under a section two, it's unlawful for any firm, person, or corporation to erect, enlarge, improve, construct, repair, replace, or move a fence in all zones. um without a first obtaining a permit. So, if you want to repair your fence, you're going to need a permit. And that's what it says. I know 20%. Um I don't see the 20% under section two. Uh let's see up here. I'm I'm I'm here on the actual ordinance that we're working on. So, it would be section two here. Um right here, Jay. Okay. So it doesn't and it also goes into the written notorized permission from the adjacent property owner as required. Um and then I go into section B. It says all fences with the exception of guarding fences should require a permit. No permit is required for repair to or replacement of an existing fence if the portion of fence that is being repaired or replaced is less than 20% of the fence overall length. Now the two are contradicting each other. Section one two section A2 says repair improvements need a permit. Section B is saying uh up to 20% no permit is required. So one or the other is they're in conflict. and the 20% rule. Uh, and I did talk to staff about this uh before the meeting, but I'm going to use my fence. And I know there's a ton of variations out there. So, uh, I don't mean this wrong. I just I'll use my fence because you can certainly go through the alley and look at it, but on one side of my house, it's 10 wooden panels, you know, the outdoor storeboughten panels. My fence is old. It was put in with a permit. It was inspected and everything. Um, but if I wanted to replace a couple of them panels that were getting beat up with the exact same thing on the exact same poles, um, I can only do 20% based on what this is saying. And that means I can replace two panels. And is that per year or per the lifetime? Because it's if it's per year, it's going to do I'm going to do two one year, two the next year, two the next year. It's going to take me five years to do that. And it's the fence is constantly going to look different because these two panels will be new. These eight other panels are going to be old. Um I don't know how to get around that. You just get a permit. Mhm. I already had a permit when I put the fence there. Well, but you if you're going to repair if you're essentially going to repair the whole fence, then right now you need a permit. Correct. Correct. So that's not changing. So you can do 20% 20% and 20% and not get a permit if you want. But if you want to do it, you know, more than 20%, all you got to do is get a permit. Why would we want to slow down people fixing their stuff up? So So emergency, mayor and council, the first the stuff in I'm looking at the red and black ones. So number two, that's the existing code where it says it's also unlawful for any firm whatever construct, repair, replace, or move a fence. So that's the existing. So I think what you're the stuff in black exists today. So right and I'm I'm I'm wondering if we're going to make changes. Let's really make some changes that improve this. So my suggestion would be is we could remove in number two the word repair because I think replace you still need a permit because we need to know what you're replacing it with. And then um well what stop? Stop there. So, so if I want to replace one panel with the exact same style of panel, go ahead, the exact same pole, I'm going to need a permit. No. No. But that's not repair. It's replace. And so, no, that's not that's not replacing, mayor. The intent is And when you replace something, it's with something different. Different. So, maybe we need to put that in there that you're replacing it with something different. So, you're changing the original or just use the word change instead of replace. I I'll rely on the city attorney to give us the proper word. And and then the last concern that I had was the opaque. Well, let me finish off on this one. If I had to get a permit to replace five panels on my fence because I want it to look nice, um, I'd have to get a permit. And since mine is on the property line, which it had a permit at the time, now I need my neighbor's permission. And if I don't, I have to move the whole fence. So, mayor, go ahead. It's all It's already been approved to be on the property line. Yes. You would not have to do that. Okay. Because you have permission to do that already. Okay. So, I'm just reading through this and playing the devil's advocate and trying to it needs to be very clear so that everybody understands it and apparently we don't understand it. The next the next one that's already in the notwithstanding any provision to this section in addition there too it's unlawful for any person to remove displace any soil, ground or gravel of earth without first obtaining a permit. We got some gardeners that better get some tilled up Betty's yard there. Uh, I think that should be cleaned up, too, because that And where where does the opaque where does the 50% opaque apply? So, which number are you on, mayor? Well, you talked about the defining opaque in this is one of your reasons for doing this and and it says a 50% opaque. Um, is that only in the shoreland overlay district or is that all fences? Mayor and council, I mean, you can have a chainlink fence which is basically 100% opaque. I think the issues become there's some areas where opaque fencing is not allowed and or is required. So, the solution in some of the areas um which we're trying to clean up in this code is they just take plastic fabric and put it over the fence. There's a good example of that on the main highway um by stage coach or it's always been illegal that we haven't allowed the metal and plastic slats because after about a year or two they're all bent from the wind. Um we want to make it crystal clear in the code that they're not allowed period because that's what in some of the industrial areas we require opaque fencing. So if you have outdoor storage, you have to have opaque fencing to hide the material. Opaque is that you can't see through it. Correct. Okay. And where would the 50% rule apply? That would be in the industrial areas where we're required to have opacity. You can't see through that fence. Okay. You're allowed to have a fence in residential that you can't see through. Yeah. Okay. Mr. Lara, I just have a question. Um about those plastic slats. I drive past a house that has that. And so are they going to have to take those out? No. So anything that exists today, including city property, spuck, whatever that exists today, gets grandfathered in for future. That's what I wanted to hear. You've got to comply with the rules. Yeah, Mr. Whiting. cuz I know some people have their their backyards fenced in, but they have a driveway to go in and they put a it's like a mesh tarp across the driveway to keep the dogs in. So, it's like a fence, but it's not wouldn't fit into that code. So, would something like that be grandfathered in as well for if it's there now? Yes. Okay. Well, and that's not really a permanent thing either. No, but you know, we just want to start stirring the pot with people. Okay. And mayor and councel, I know you may we have questions, but the person that handles probably a thousand fence permits a year is the one who made the changes because these are the issues that she hears from every day. Yeah. Well, I think what we're asking for, at least two of us are asking for, and I don't know about the rest of the council, but a little more clarity on some of these issues that we raised. So, mayor and council, I think we can clarify the repair that's in number two by eliminating the repair, but B fence construction requirements, the area there that's existing and I think we added some clarity to garden fence because some people have garden fences as their main fence. Mhm. Well, and we have a garden fence inside our our fence around the garden, and it's just a little thing that pokes down into the ground. You can pick it up with one hand. It's the goal is to keep the rabbits out out of the garden. I think my rabbit fence would be uh illegal in this because it's attached to the chain link fence. So, I'm not sure if that would qualify. Now, the other one I'd like to see cleaned up would be that property line language so that it's clear that it can go up to but not beyond and al also the appeal process. I think the appeal process should be standard across the do domains. Well, a standard I think is shorter but I think on offense to me it's more of a prop, you know, residential. I'd like to have a little more time on that. Okay. What are your thoughts are? Can we get what you all would like as opposed to one or two? That way we can make those changes. Yep. What are your thoughts, Mr. Lara? What about 15 days in the middle? Think 15 days is sufficient. I think that's reasonable. So, I guess the legal question is that's to actually give a written appeal, not for the whole process to play out. Correct. Correct. It goes to the board of adjusting within 50. Okay. Is that good? Otherwise, I'm fine with as it is. As it is with no clarifying and nothing else with your slate or I'm sorry. I'm fine with the modifications that you're wanting to make. Okay. Okay. Same here. Fine with the modifications that were brought up. Okay. Same. Okay. Does uh we we agree unanimously to the uh clarifications that we're asking for. Yes, sir. So, are we clear on what we're asking for? 15 days on the appeal. I got that. Up to the property line and not beyond. Up to the property line will be the word. Yep. And um what was the other one? And I'm eliminating I'm eliminating the word repair number two. Okay. And but would that fall under emergency repair under other other clauses in our uh building code already? Um what would what do you mean emergency? Don't we have like an emergency repair clause if you're doing like some if you have a something that happens to your house or something? Tree falls on the roof. Tree falls on the roof on the fence. Well, if a tree's on your roof, the last concern would be the fence. But I think it would fall under if it was an emergency thing like your sewer line and it's your fence is covering that, you're going to lose your fence or whatever. No, I'm talking about the fence. It could Wouldn't that fall if if it needed repair up to 20% under emergency repairs? I thought there was some language under that. Yep. Okay. All right, Mr. Lara, I'll make a motion to adopt ordinance. Oh, hold on. We're going to I I think we're going to send this back to have them clarify these things. Yeah, we can we can bring it back in next meeting. Okay. And that way it'll give you an opportunity to see the changes and then if you have any other comments, we can go from there. Okay. And in the meantime, if anybody has any other uh thoughts on the issue, please reach out to staff. Okay. Y we good, Mr. Kursky? Yes, sir. Thank you. New 10D would be the final plat of Richland Court. We saw this one. So, mayor and council, this is the final plat of Richmond Court. You saw the preliminary plat uh about a month or so ago. Um subject property is on County Highway 78 east of Townline Road. Applicant proposed a plat that would consist of eight single family lots on 4.38 acres. Net acreage is 2.23 lots. Um eight 2.2 23 acres with a density of 3.58 units per acre. So, here is the subject property right here. Here is the plat area. These are where the actual um homes will be. These are the areas that going to be preserved. One is for detention, one is a wetland area. the big change after the preliminary plat and there were some council members that asked about um the requirements of the county. The county uh heard you and the applicant and now they're only requiring uh the only access change is a right turn lane on County Road 79. Originally, if you remember, they had a right in right out and a hard island and all sorts of other things. They uh came back and said for eight lots, we don't think it's reasonable to require all those changes. So, thank you for your comments. Here is the way the subdivision will lay out with their driveways. You can see the wetland and the storm water basin. So, these are going to end up being pretty large lots. And then uh we have sanitary uh in the area that was built originally to serve this property along with water lines. So, it's pretty good to go. So the compliant is the plat is compliant with the R1B zoning the 2040 comprehensive plan and uh conditions of approval in the resolution ensure compliance with the staff's requirements and design performance standards. Thank you Mr. Kursky. Questions of staff none for me. Looks good though. Wishes of council. So the only changes Mr. Kerski, was the first two lots um are out lots now and the right in turn lane instead of the island and the right in right out. Mayor and council, the first two lots were out lots in the preliminary plat. The major change is the um change in the highway. Okay, very good. All right, councelor Contrarus. Thank you, mayor. I'd make a motion to approve resolution R2025-067 approving the final plat for Richland Court. Second. Mr. Delaney seconds the motion. Motion maker was councelor Contrarus. Discussion on the motion. Discussion. All in favor say I. I. I. Opposed. Motion passes. That will take us to 10E. 2024 annual comprehensive financial report and audit. And uh we made her wait. Well, we'll turn it over to our finance director, Miss Reinhardt. She billable hours. Maybe we can cut one loose. That did that. See? Uh good evening, mayor and council members. Um we recently completed our 2024 audit and financial report. Uh so I'm actually going to invite Bonnie Schwagger who's a partner with Abdo up here to talk about those results and the uh financial or the audit process itself. Nice. Thank you so much. Okay, perfect. Yes, we're going to review the um audit presentation for the 2024 financial statements. And if you have any questions on the detailed financial report or our communication letters which accompany this presentation, I would love to take those as well. If you have questions as we're going through this, please feel free to stop me. We can talk about things in real time. I'm going to touch first on our audit results. We have two different opinion letters within your finan financial statements. The first one is our independent auditor's report. This provides an unmodified or a clean opinion over the financial statements. And what that means is that we were able to obtain all of our audit evidence. We didn't run into any significant issues during the audit. We also review the internal controls of the city and make sure that the processes and the financial cycles are properly separated uh between the different review and approval processes and we didn't note any issues during that review. So all in all really good year for compliance and controls and the financial information that was prepared for the audit. The second opinion letter is the Minnesota loot compliance letter. Got ahead of myself there. So no issues with compliance. um you have to comply with a lot of different state statutes and we do testing around dispersements, contracting and bidding and a lot of different areas that you have to comply with and and like I said, no issues. So, a really clean audit year and we did not have any findings, material weaknesses, significant deficiencies within the report. I'm going to go over some historical trends looking at 2024 and uh going back a few years here and some charts that cover the general fund and some of the other funds of the city. So the first uh first chart here is looking at your general fund balances. This is the reserves of your main operating fund and the city has a policy to maintain 35 to 50% within your reserves of your next year's budget. And so you can see here that you've been historically at the top end of that reserve policy. That indicates that you have a really healthy general fund. Uh and on the next slide we can see a couple of the reasons for that general fund. uh slight increase from 50% to 51% this year. Your revenues did come in over budget primarily within interest earnings, investment earnings had a really good year and then also permit revenue. Again, continue to have a really strong year over what you had budgeted. The budget for those items are usually very conservative as they should be. Um but they did come in significantly over budget. Expenditures were fairly close to what you had anticipated. And there you can see you were able to transfer out a significant portion to fund some future and current capital projects and some other reserve balances. So overall your general fund increased about 1.4 million from the previous year. I'm going to show you a few um charts that look at your general fund revenues and then also spending. And so you can see here what came in over the last three years for your main sources of revenue. So you can see taxes, permit revenue, intergovernmental. That other category includes different refunds and reimbursements, um interest earnings, and any transfers that come into the general fund. We have a clarifying note on the bottom there. We did some reclassification between uh charges for services and intergovernmental revenue. So, just some clarification there in case you're uh doing research on our previous audit presentation, which I know you all would just love to look back at that. So much fun. And then we have the general fund spending next, which looks at your different departments over the last three years. And so, you can see there where some of your main increases were that I want to point out in the public safety area, that was some changes within the fire department um and the payroll costs there. And then separate from the general fund, you have something called special revenue funds that account for some very specific activities that are not necessarily related to capital or everyday operations. You can see here that your main special revenue fund is your economic development authority. And then you have a couple of other smaller funds. The majority of these funds are restricted and not available for everyday spending. And you can see there the difference between your total reserve balance and then also your available cash balances. So the the total that you can see that you have for fund balances that includes a lot of different assets that are not necessarily liquid cash including landhold for resale and some different receivable balances. The available cash there is 1.2 compared to your total assets that you have of the 4.6. And then here's a look at your capital project funds. So your capital project funds account for funds that you're accumulating for different capital activity uh both past and current and future. Your capital improvement fund is where you hold most of your reserves uh that is assigned for uh different future capital spending and ongoing capital projects. And you have a variety of tiff districts in your capital funds as well that are funding some of the ongoing tiff activity. Here's a look at your capital project funds and how it's broken down between restricted assigned and unassigned. That unassigned negative balance, those are your TIFF funds that are going to be repaid with future tax increment collections. So, a portion of your capital project funds are restricted for uh different uh grant funded and tax increment funded projects. And then you also have something called internal service funds. You can see what those funds are accounted for here and the different cash balances that they have. And so this is something where you've um every year during the budget process, you allocate a certain part of your operating budgets to fund these internal service fund activities and accumulate resources to pay for ongoing needs in these different areas. And this is something that um can be done to help even out any fluctuations in cost and and put away reserves on an ongoing basis in a way that is planned. And then you have your debt surface funds here. This is uh any non-utility related debt. And so most of this are most of these debt issuances are related to tax increment bonds. And then you have your improvement bond related to some other improvement projects. Your principal and interest requirements over the next 10 years are in that chart below there. So you can see that you have pretty even principal and interest requirements over the next uh 10 years to 2033 when you have one bond maturing. Next, Mr. Reinhardt, the 2016 A for 21 million. That's the community center, correct? Yeah, that'd be for the community center, the Icerna. And that's about half of total that's shown here. So, okay, continue. Great. And then next is your sewer fund. So, when we think about the sewer fund, we want to think about this is how how well is it able to support itself? So you can see in that top chart there the operating receipts compared to your cost. And what you're looking for is um a gap between the receipts and the cost that would allow you to build up cash balances to pay for future capital needs within this fund. And then the bottom chart you can see what the cash balances have done over the last four years. We do put in um um kind of a minimum target balance that looks at how much cash should we have in that fund. and you want to have enough to cover your operating cost and then also save up for some of your assets that are depreciating. And so there you can see that you're meeting that minimum target balance. And then you also have some cash from um some connection fees that have come in that is restricted for that specific capital activity. And then similar look at your uh storm drainage funds. There you can see uh significant cash balances able to pay for operating plus any maintenance costs that are needed on your existing infrastructure. And then you do also have uh the cash balances that are available for any capital needs that you might have. This is a total look at your cash and investments by fund. So you can see all of the different things that we've talked about kind of in one view. A lot of these, as we've as I've mentioned, are restricted and not necessarily available for everyday spending. You can see there that general fund at the very bottom. That's really your your operating fund and then what you have in capital project funds and so on. A couple of charts here that look at how you compare to other cities. And so we have um information from the office of the state auditor. They compile all of the data from the cities of Minnesota and provide that to us. And then we average it out, take out some outliers and get um uh performance indicators for class 2 cities which are cities of a similar size uh 20,000 to 100,000. So a wide range in size in sizes there. But that's how the OSA office of the state auditor classifies you and then also cities within Scott County. So you can see on this slide how your tax rate and then also taxes per capita compared to that. The taxes per capita includes a lot of different types of taxes that not all cities have. And so you have tax increment and lodging taxes and um a variety of different taxes that go into that taxes per capita. Um some cities just have their levy specific and not those other ones. And so you can see there where you might be higher is um possibly due to some of those other uh taxes that you collect. So let me see if I if I'm understanding that correctly. Since lodging tax and franchise tax, many property properties may not be paying the lodging tax because they're not lodging here. They're living here. Uh and the franchise tax is directly related to franchise agreements that we have and they may some residents may not have them services so they may not may not be paying them that portion. That is such a great question. So, so some cities don't collect um as much infranchise taxes due to their makeup or the different types of agreements that they have. And then some cities don't have any um lodging or or hotels where they're collecting that lodging tax. Because you guys collect a lot of different types of taxes from not just residents, but also those other types of entities. Your taxes per capita, you have a higher amount of taxes. It's um it's a little bit higher than what other cities might have of a similar size. A lot of tax goes to still tax. Yeah. And that's kind of what I'm getting at, counselor. I'm what I'm getting at is that this is showing that their per capita tax is is higher than what it really is for individuals because like the lodging tax, I'm not paying a lodging tax unless I'm staying at a local hotel. And even those revenues don't come into the city as spendable dollars that were a pass through conduit. Same with the franchise tax, which yeah, I may be paying that through my internet service or something. Um but it's not general fund dollars, it's kind of restricted for that use, right? So, if we were to take the um take just your levy, just the general general fund debt service levies, then your taxes per capita would be lower. It's tricky with the comparative information because some of it does include, you know, some cities like like Jacape, they do get the tax increment and the lodging taxes and that's included in the office of the state auditors numbers. And so you're compar comparable to some of the cities that are included in here, but always like to have that caveat. It's good good clarification. Okay, Mr. Reinhardt. Um, just to add something else, kind of going down that same line of thinking, too. Even even when you get down to property taxes per capita, it's not necessarily the same if you're thinking about the makeup of who's paying those property taxes. So in shakabe for example we have a lot of industrial and commercial and and different entities paying that property tax is not necessarily even coming from the residential taxpayer in that sort of and the tax rate on various properties might be different. Yeah. So it can be difficult even when comparing you know a city to another city when you have such different services and such right different ways you're collecting your revenues. Okay. Thank you. Yes. Continue. And then here's a look at uh debt per capita and then also the debt service expenditures. So again, little clarification on this one. The debt per capita, as we saw on the previous slide where it listed all of your debt, a lot of that debt was tax increment bonds, tax abatement bonds, right? And so not necessarily levy based dollars. Um and so this does include all of the debt that you have outstanding. And then also the debt service expenditures. That's looking at how much of your total budget is um spent on repaying that debt compared to operating costs. And then last set of slides here looking at how much you spend on current expenditures or operating and then versus capital expenditures per capita. I would love to take any questions that you have. Questions from council. questions. Mr. Whiting, just pointing at this chart here. Um, this makes sense because Shakipi is the bigger city in Scott County. Class two cities. Can you kind of give a little explanation of that for the crowd? Sure. Yep. So, class two cities um are those cities within that 20,000 to 100,000. So, relatively large cities within the state. Um, a lot of metro metro cities as well. the makeup of what you spend funds on is very different compared to what like in Scott County if you're the larger city you have different services that you provide and that directly impacts the type of the amount of costs that you have for those operating but similar to other cities our size we're more we're more comparable Mr. providing to class two cities than we are to cities in Scott County. Absolutely. Yes. Right. Mr. Delaney, do you have a question? Question. Thanks. We're here. No questions. Oh, good. Thank you very much. Wonderful. Thank you so much for your time. I would uh I would just point out that, you know, we we got through the co thing. right now we're in uh somebody tell us what uh the uncertainty is going to bring us from the federal state you name it. Um and considering all them things for staff to be able to be so even kill through all this uh says a lot to staff. So kudos to staff for and that goes to all the department heads that all work together working out a budget and trying to to keep the keel nice and straight, the arrow flying straight. So uh certainly not easy at times, I'm sure. And then you've got us five up here telling you what we want and and uh that always puts a curveball into it. So, if you could pull out your crystal ball and tell us how to uh She looks at the numbers after the fact, not before. Thank you for your your time. Absolutely. And great work, Steph. Thank you. Good point, Mr. Whitey. Should be a stock broker. All right, that takes us to 11 leazison and administrative reports. Which side did we start last time? Who do you remember? Did they I think we started here. So, go ahead. Um on the 29th, I attended the uh Miracle Field uh groundbreaking for um Scott or Shakp Lions. Uh very exciting to see that project um coming to fruition and moving along. It sounds like they're going to have it up by end of summer, they're hoping, and games starting in the fall. So, pretty quick. Um, schoolboard meeting tomorrow night. Um, they're going to go over um financial stability, so I'll report back on that after that occurs. That's it. Very good. Thank you, councelor Contrarus. I don't have one, mayor. Um, my meetings are coming up. Thank you, Mr. Dwight. Nothing to report, Mr. Delaney. Okay. 169 Coalition. We had an amphitheater tour that was a big hit. Thank you, Mr. Kursky and city staff for setting that up. That was a really big hit show. Well attended. Well attended. Definitely. That was one of our our bigger events for last couple years. Um we had a follow-up meeting after that over at Mr. Pig Smokery. A lot of information from county and from MNDOT about the upcoming uh construction activities. Um we also had the groundbreaking down in Jordan for the 262 282 282 1699. Uh that's the last stop light to come up off of 169 for Scott County, which is pretty exciting. Um very good turnout for that also. Uh let's see. Shaka Public Utilities, we had our meeting. Uh nothing highlighting there other than the fact that AMI should be closing out this year. Um so we just have a few holdouts. We're trying to get get the equipment swapped out. And that is uh it for Very good. Thank you. Mine is uh short. I attended the 169 or not the one yeah the 169 amphitheater tour. Um it's making good progress. It's it's big. There's a lot of lot of concrete out there and it's laid out kind of cool. We took a walk up the section. I don't think there's going to be a bad seat in the house to be honest with you. Um Mr. Reynolds and I were weren't able to go to Mr. Pig's stuff afterward. We had a uh intergovernment working group quarterly meeting with Scott County, Prior Lake, Shakape, and the Midawakatan. Um nothing really of big significance uh just collaboration efforts. Um they did mention and the Shaq Midawakatan talked a little bit about their new uh recycling facility on 41 um running pretty smooth for the the free service in May for Shakp residents with with ID of course I went there it worked and uh there there's some of it is still going to be happening on the old site but that's kind of limited and I guess after a period of time then that's going to totally be be done there, too. So, um nothing of significance. I did attend the uh miracle field with councelor Lara was there. That was uh pretty awesome. so many people that that collaborated on that effort besides the Lions, the the Youth Baseball Association, many contractors that are are donating time and in um professional experience and services. It's uh it's one of them things that you know Shakp is already the greatest in the state but it's one of them things that just you know you got to step back and look at the efforts of of so many different organizations and people in shock be doing these things and you know granted council you guys city contributed $100,000 into the effort too. So, um, it's really nice to see that collaborative effort, you know, being ahead of the curve and things like that just sets Shockp out. It's it's going to fit a need that's hasn't been met and it's going to bring a lot of smiling faces to some very special people and it's going to be just awesome. So, um, Mr. Reynolds, you have anything, sir? Uh, just a reminder, Sand Venture will be opening up on Friday. What time? Now, I will say that we've had some hiccups over the last week, but the hiccups have been fixed and as of today, we are full of water and everything is working. So, no leaks. No leaks. I know I'm probably jinxing this because this is the most jinxed project ever. La, but yes, it'll be a lot of fun. It starts at 11, I believe. Is that correct? That is correct. 11:00 a.m. Friday, huh? Uh, it's going to be a little chilly, but the kids aren't going to care. They'll be in the water. Very good. Looking forward to it. I I did meet with the fire chief and the police chief very briefly on the LEGT LEG and uh the RMS and the CAD system inside of it because I really don't understand it at all. Um, they gave me a good insight. Appreciate that. And I I kind of mentioned to staff if they could put together a one pager of like a flowchart with boxes to explain all this for council, that'd be great because it really is uh, you know, it's confusing and we are putting that together for you. That's it's just kind of confusing. I mean, I don't we don't need all the nuts and bolts, but when we're working on such a big transition, we really need to know the the parts that are important to Shahaki and how it, you know, why it's important. Um, so I appreciate that from staff. Absolutely. All right. Um, city bill list. Any questions on the bill list? None for me. Okay. Other business. I wanted to plug Oh, go ahead, Mr. Delaney. Uh other business want to go ahead or I just wanted to plug we also have the uh on the 9th I believe it is uh what is coming up June 9th. Picnic with police. Picnic with police with the police at Lions Park at 5:00 p.m. Correct. Right. And I guess the police will be making us I don't know steak and lobster or something and extra butter. Right. It'll be the typical burgers and Doritos and well, you know, hopefully we'll see a good community turnout and uh uh build them relationships between uh those that serve the the public and public safety and and so so last time I talked about the music at Rhythm on the Rails and I forgot all about the music in the the park at Huber Park and I was going to bring my note with all the the bands listed and I was going to look it up and I don't know if a city staff is scrambling right now, but I know we got music in the park coming up this week, don't we? On Thursday. Bluegrass. Bluegrass. It's the blueg grass on Thursday. Uh that will be uh it' be the 5th. So, um come on down to Hubert Park. That's always fun. And that is that every couple Thursdays uh every Thursday. Every Thursday through the summer. So, we got music of all different things going on at Hubert Park. All right. That's all I remember. Very good. Outstanding. Mr. Delaney. Oh, just my other business. Um, we passed the ordinance uh hotel ordinance I think was last cycle and I had some concerns about wording. I'm just asking that wording to be looked at, asking it to come back specifically for residency and um identification. And the reason being, I can give you some examples. You're talking a hotel hotel or reason being give you some examples. Um, our county does a great job getting um our veterans out of homelessness. I think 100% of getting that this last year and for them on average they stayed close to 90 days in hotel to make that happen. Um in addition one thing that came up again I was talking to county staff about this you to find out more about housing and how they do more the housing than than the city itself. Um, you have domestic abuse cases that do happen unfortunately with our city and our county and sometimes they leave without an ID or they don't want to be identified when they go to the hotel. So, I'm just asking us to look at that so we're not really dumping on our residents. Um, another example I can give you is we had 77 students uh last year in our city that were facing the homeless crisis. And again, I don't want to be adding to that. So, I'm just trying to figure out the correct wording. I understand the intent of the ordinance and you 200 visits to a hotel is unacceptable. That's not sustainable. What I'm asking for is that we look at the residents we're impacting and try to find the wording to again have teeth for the ordinance but also have compassion for the residents. And I again don't know how to get at that wording. So, and I would support that. Okay. Bringing that back to look at. Okay. And I guess my question to staff would be um what we passed talks about contractual obligations. So if if a hotel has got a contract with I don't know example disabled vets and they're want to house a disabled vet for more than 30 days. Is that allowed under the contractual part of the existing ordinance? I I don't know the answer to that question. I'd have to look at it. It's we can't give you a an answer off the top of our head. Okay. Um if you want to put a workshop together on this, we can do that. Uh but you know we can we can change this ordinance to basically be back to what it was and we will not be dealing with the real problems we have within some of our hotels including over 256 visits uh uh and and we have some hotels that just aren't good community partners. And we also have organizations that stuff bad people into hotels. Uh and we have people that abuse the system that you know they were getting assistance and they are running a prostitution ring out of one of the hotels. So uh you know you can you can always find what you know cases of where somebody's going to be adversely impacted. Uh but you know the reason for the ordinance being as strong as it is is because we have a serious problem with crime in our hotels. So that's the reason for the ordinance being the way it was and okay we can we can bring it back and have you look at it and see if we can find other solutions. What was your con what was your No, I I uh a agree that I think there's certain groups that uh need to have some uh options out there and hotels seem to be working and uh um I have a concern if we don't have those what that might those options. Well, and I'm thinking if there's going to be a contractual obligation with an a group, uh obviously it can't be a madeup group. It has to be a pretty pretty solid group, right? Um that you know there could be some kind of requirement reporting requirements within that ordinance for them groups to where there's still teeth to them groups because now it holds the groups that are actually putting right people there. um and they're going to maybe be a little more cautious about placement when they are actually the ones that are going to be accountable for blacklisted from being able to continue. And if I may, we can bring it back and discuss it then as opposed to now because it's not on the agenda. We we should probably we can do that. Very good. Um but but I think we could keep it narrow to that specific the needs of some of these specific groups but there has to be accountability with just the health and safety of the res, you know, of these occupants. And you know, that's anything that we do. I think um you know, we're not out to vilify. We're not out to um single anybody out. It's just we want accountability and we want the the health and safety of residents and visitors alike to be at the top of our priority. So I think I think that's where the foundation lies. Um and we'll just move on from there. So So let's uh let's just have staff uh bring this back at a future date on the agenda to where we can have a a good discussion about it. Do we all agree on that? Yeah. One thing that again I'm not a housing expert. I don't think that's more of a county issue. Can we have somebody from our staff just reach out to their housing expert to maybe they have some ideas that insight that we don't see from this side? Would that be taking action? There might be a separate separate workshop. Let's have our workshop first and see if there's enough consensus out of that discussion to warrant what you're asking. Thank you. I agree. I'm okay with that. subject matter experts would let me consent to have staff put it on a future date and we'll have a discussion about it and I don't want to I don't want to put staff in a a pickle of rushing this back or anything like that. You just whenever it fits and and uh you know I I got to point out last council meeting we had a fairly short agenda. This stack was pretty big. That audit sure takes a lot, doesn't it? Sure does. All right. Very good. Um, motion to adjurnn would be in order. I'll make a motion to adjurnn June 17th at 7 p.m. I can second that. Motion by Mr. Lara, seconded by Mr. Whiting. Discussion on a motion. Seeing none, all in favor say I. I. Opposed. We are adjourned.