credits. Five N has a corrected resolution. There were some spelling errors in the in the last one and we have included the EDA bill list for you to for your presentation. >> Very good. Uh changes from council? Wishes of council? Councilor Contreras? >> I'll make a motion to approve the um amended uh agenda. >> Is there a second? >> Second. >> Second by Councilor Delaney. Any discussion? Discussion. Seeing none, all in favor say aye. >> Aye. >> Opposed? Motion passes. Item number five, consent agenda. Any changes to the consent agenda? >> No, sir. >> Council changes from council? Mr. Lara? >> I'd remove five N. >> Five Nancy? >> Yep. >> That's good. >> One second, Mr. Whiting. Mr. Whiting? >> No, if that's all, I'll Do you have anything else to pull? >> I'll make a motion to approve the consent business as modified. >> Is there a second to the motion? >> Second. >> Councilor Contreras seconds the motion. Discussion? [clears throat] Mr. Reynolds, would you read the consent, please? >> Yes, Mr. Mayor, members of council, these are the consent agenda items for Tuesday, August 4th of 2026. Five A approves parking property. Five C is a special event permit and temporary liquor license for the Tap 2026 event. Five D is a special event permit for the Shakopee Chamber of Commerce and Shakopee BrewHall anniversary event. Five E approves taproom on-sale small brewery and Sunday liquor licenses for Dilemma Brewing Company doing business as the Shakopee BrewHall. Five F is the US Department of Justice's Law Enforcement Mental Health and Wellness Grant Program application. Five G is an ordinance amending city code section 1110, excuse me, .01 related to the national electrical code. 5H approves extended construction hours for the Boiling Springs drainage project. 5I approves a stream bank credit purchase agreement with Willow Glen LLC for the Minnesota River Bank stabilization improvements. 5J approves a contract with J.C. Hallock Construction for the 2026 pond cleanout project. 5K is approval of the 20 July 21st, 2026 minutes. 5L approves the wetland replacement plan for the Southbridge Crossing Garden Center. 5M is Sand Adventure Aquatic Park pump house roof replacement. And 5O is the approval of an offsite gambling permit for Shakopee Trap Club for Shakopee Tap 2026. >> Thank you, Mr. Reynolds. We do have a motion and a second. Any discussion? Seeing none, all in favor say I. >> I. >> Opposed? Motion passes. Item number six. Public comment. If you're here for an item not on the city council's agenda, now would be the time to speak on an item not on the agenda. >> I'm not on the agenda. >> Right up here on the Go ahead and have a seat. There's a microphone there for you. And you can sign your name and address on that sheet for us, please. >> Actually, I don't need to sign my name and address. This is a uh city council meeting to the public. It doesn't require anybody to write their phone and address. I as I've been studying uh more of my civil rights, I've been finding out that >> Right, but >> Sir, can you speak into the mic, please? >> Yeah. Yeah, you're going to have to speak into the mic, and if there's any questions that we might have after the fact, we won't be able to contact you. >> Yes. Everybody knows my name. I've been having problems with Jessica Kyle over at my easement. Uh recently I received a email from Michael Kersey that he had a meeting about my easement without my notification. We've been getting death threats. I have a recording on my phone if I can play it for you. I have people coming constantly driving through my driveway. Threatening my family, telling me they're going to kick my ass. Be careful when I walk outside. I've had uh spikes thrown on my driveway, flattened all my tires. The [snorts] harassment continues uh as I started to put up the fence, it took me 3 months to barely get anything done because of the harassment. Miss Kyle would sit on the driveway. There's a 10-ft uh restriction on us between each other. She sat there every day, every day, would not allow me to work. So, I'm here to address that. My contract for my easement says it is a verbal contract between two homeowners. November 2024, Miss Eal decided to cancel the regress. So, I decided to cancel the front of the entrance, which is my entrance. We've been going through court. I've been accused I've been accused of wearing this. Look at this. They violated my First Amendment right, freedom of speech. I was thrown in jail. My due process was violated. I never told why I was arrested. After I was in jail, I had no food for 24 for 48 hours, no water for 24 hours. I was deprived of sleep for 24 hours because the jailers would bang on the door constantly every 15 minutes. I used to be a correctional deputy. You have to let your prisoners sleep. You cannot deprive them of food. You cannot deprive them of water. I was denied medical attention. I have entanglement. I had a tumor on my groin and a big cyst, a thyroid cyst. I informed the correctional deputy that I I had that and they still denied me medical attention. My main point is that I've been fighting with this egress easement with Ms. Kyle. On June 2nd, she was here for 21 minutes. She spoke about us. She said I was a criminal. In fact, I used to be a correctional dep- I used to be a correctional deputy. I was a deputy at one time. >> me Let me stop for a second. We do have a timer here that we do allocate. >> All right. Well, that's You didn't tell me. >> 3 minutes. 3 minutes. So, if you could wrap up your comments, I know there's court things between the two and the restrictions on stuff and >> I will All right. I'll uh real quickly, I will uh finish my argument. I'd like to finish my easement and my fence uh argument in court without the city council uh getting itself into it because of we have our court papers and the city council is not aware of what's going on. You do, but we've been through court more than five times. We will hopefully decide the easement in in court without threats from the city board and without uh Michael Cursey tell me, I could care less about your family's life. Their death threats are not important to me. I only care about the fence. You've already wasted a lot of the city court the city council meeting. And I will leave you at that. Thank you very much for your time. I do appreciate it. >> We wish you the and your neighborhood the very best. Is there anybody else that would like to speak to the city council on item not on the city council agenda? One minute here. There you go. Timer's up. Floor is yours. Welcome. >> Good evening, Mayor and member of council. My name is Manjit Sahota. I'm wife of late Darshan Singh Sahota. I'm came from Canada 32044 Old Yale Road, Abbotsford, BC. Thank you for allowing me to speak here. I'm here for respectfully ask that you reconsider your decision to revoke our hotel license and give our family to opportunity to continue operating. For the last 10 years, we have proudly owned and operated this hotel. During that time, we have invested near 10 million dollars into this property because we believe in this business and in this community. I have a full list of renovation with me for your viewing. In October 2025, my husband unexpectedly passed away. He was the person responsible for the day-to-day management of this hotel. His loss changed our life overnight. My two sons lost their father and I lost my husband. While grieving, we we were suddenly faced with taking over the business that he had managed for years. We have spent the past several months trying to understand the business, pick up where he left off, and keep it running during one of the most difficult time of our lives. I understand there has been concerned, and I am not here to make excuse. I am here for here to ask for understanding and for the for the chance to make things right. We are committed to bringing in an experienced professional management company to oversee the hotel operations and ensure full compliance compliance with all towns- township regulation. We will do everything necessary to earn back your trust and operate responsibly. This hotel is more than than a business. It is my husband's legacy, our family's livelihood, and the result of 10 years of hard work and investment. I respectfully ask you to consider the extraordinary circumstances our family has faced. We are not asking for special treatment. We just simply ask for a second chance. We promise to comply with all rules, work cooperatively with the township, and make the change needed to ensure this hotel is operated the right way. On behalf of my family, I ask for your compassion and your consideration. Please allow us to allow us the opportunity to continue what my husband worked so hard to build. Thank you for your time, and thank you for listening. >> Did you have something that you can turn that into the clerk? Thank you for your time. Sorry for your loss. >> Thank you. >> [clears throat] >> Thank you. >> If you can hold up 1 second there. Ma'am, hold on 1 second. There you go. Here's a timer is running. >> Okay. >> Welcome. Thanks for coming. >> Um my name is Robin. Oh, sorry. I have worked at the Hotel San on 2007. >> Can you pull that mic a little closer? The the base is heavy, it will move, I think. There you go. >> Okay. [laughter] Um There it is. Okay. When I started as a housekeeper in Canterbury, it later became America's Best Value Inn and Suites, and now it's the Baymont, where I work as an overnight auditor. Throughout the changes, one thing has stayed the same. I have continued showing up to do my job and care for the guests. I know you've heard terrible things about what has happened to the hotel. I don't want to make excuses for them. They were tragic. One of the tragedies that has stayed with me every single day were the bodies that were found. I have been asked why they weren't found sooner, and I understand why people ask that question, as I asked myself the same thing. What I know, the room had been checked, but because the person checking rooms could not get in, she moved on and never went back to that room. We all wish that decision had been different. I was the one who went into that room afterwards. I was asked if I was comfortable enough to take photographs. I saw what no one else should have ever have to see. >> [clears throat] >> I also met the parents when they came. I'll never forget how devastated they were. That event news story to me is something I've carried with me ever since. That's why it's so hard to hear people think that the employees didn't care. We did care. We still do. I'm 61 years old and I've worked at this hotel for nearly 20 years. If I believed it was an unsafe place to work, I wouldn't still be there. I would never have let my daughter work overnight at the front desk if I wouldn't believe she was in danger. Every day I work with people who genuinely care about our guests. We help stranded families, comfort people having a bad day, and try to make people feel welcome. Those moments don't make the news, but they happen every day. I know changes need to be made and I support whatever it takes to make the hotel safer. I hope you remember that the people who have dedicated of their lives to this place, [clears throat] we are more than the worst days we've ever experienced. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> need a Do you need a Kleenex? >> What's that? >> Do you need a Kleenex? >> I'm good. >> Okay. >> Thank you. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Good evening, Mayor and members of the City Council. My name is Bob Maltz. I live at 737 Heritage Trail in the City of Jordan. I'm also here to speak on behalf of the Baymont situation. Um They have agreed to bring me in as a security director should their license be reinstated. Just as way of background, I spent 30 years in law enforcement, 15 years as a chief of police in the City of Jordan, during which time I spent many years as the chair of the Community Corrections Committee. I also served 2 years as the executive director of the Drug Task Force. And uh after that, I went to work for Children's Hospitals in security for almost 5 years there. They are committed to making sure and I'm a by-the-book guy, so if if I've been offered a position of safety and security director, and if you reconsider this and and their license is re-reinstated, I will be there as a face, local face for you to come to with problems or anything that that goes wrong. I I'm committed to helping them making their place crime-free as much as possible. Obviously, I can't say there won't ever be a call there. That's >> Right. >> a little bit beyond that, but I will do my best to make sure that the things that have taken place in the past offer a common sense approach to decisions when they're made. As far as the things that have happened in the past, I certainly wouldn't have agreed with what a few of the things that went along that caused the situations take place. So, I hope you do reconsider what what has taken place and understand that they are doing everything possible to get their license reinstated or would like to get their license reinstated. I stand for any questions if you have any. >> Any clarifying questions? >> Thank you, sir. >> Thank you. >> [clears throat] >> Good evening, Mr. Mayor, members of council. Megan Rogers, Arkin Hoffman on behalf of the Baymont Suites. I am here this evening and you have heard this evening from three important people, three important groups that impact this hotel. Number one, the ownership of the property. Number two, the employees who work there every day. And number three, the future controls that we are proposing would be in place. And we are not asking you, nor is it appropriate at this forum for you to make a decision this evening. What we are asking for is twofold. Either a reconsideration or an amendment of your prior decision to revoke the hotel license subject to conditions as described by your staff with the team that we have in place here and a third-party management company to be brought in to manage the day-to-day operations of the hotel. Or in the interim, a 60-day extension of the revocation so that we could get the third-party management company in place to make an application for a license on its own. And so that is the request that we have in front of you to be able to work with your staff to come up with a collaborative solution that could maintain this property operating in an alternative mechanism with alternative day-to-day operations and with the controls in place that we know the city expects. Thank you for your time. >> Thank you. Anybody else that like to address the city council on a matter not on the agenda? Can you hold off Can you Can you give him a chance to sign in, please? Can you Can you sign in on the sheet right there? >> Mhm. Yes, and also I was going to ask, did your staff communicate with you this afternoon about my request um from earlier today about having 5 minutes instead of 3? >> I have not heard that from staff. >> Okay. I have prepared a statement for 3 minutes, then. >> Very good. >> I should note before we start that I'm on a Minnesota Safe at Home program, so I won't be putting my address. >> Okay. And that is just for staff's contacting you if they have additional questions. >> Sure. >> [clears throat] >> Good evening, Mayor Layman and City Council members. My name is Andrea, and I'm currently on a Minnesota Safe at Home program, so I'll not be disclosing my address. I come before you tonight to propose to the Council an independent health consultancy to advise government entities within Shakopee on the issue of electromagnetic radiation, EMR. EMR is largely associated with cell towers, cell phones, Wi-Fi, smart meters, antennas, smart products, LED lighting, data centers, and other sources, which are rapidly growing in our communities. To illustrate more deeply my concern, just last night I gave public comment at a Public Utilities Commission to shed more light on smart meter technologies, two separate but related mechanisms that carry documented health concerns. One is radio frequency radiation, that is the RF emissions transmitted wirelessly to relay usage data, and two, the transients, what is commonly known as dirty electricity, defined as abnormal electrical spikes that travel through a home's internal wiring and have been associated with measurable biological effects. These are not fringe concerns as illustrated in 2021 when the DC Circuit Court ruled that the FCC failed to adequately consider evidence of potential health effects when reviewing its RF emissions guidelines from 30 years ago. Last night my family member was left with two options. Keep an analog meter with a $75 monthly fee or accept a digital non-RF meter that poses risk to emit dirty electricity. We have repeatedly asked the utility to retain her analog meter without the fee as a reasonable health accommodation, but have been unsuccessful. For this reason, I'm reminding the government bodies, including this city council and the SPU commission that you have appointed, their obligations under Title II of the Americans with Disabilities Act, including 28 CFR section 35.105 and 35.130F. Public entities must evaluate policies for accessibility barriers, involve individuals with disabilities, and may not charge for accommodations required to provide non-discriminatory access. For example, a $75 monthly fee to retain an analog meter as a disability accommodation is not an opt-out fee. It is a prohibited surcharge. This process should have occurred before any system-wide meter exchange was implemented. I was deeply disappointed to witness the commission vote on our particular concern last night, dismissing their obligations under this federal law to which I mentioned just minutes before their vote. Tonight I propose the following. To require that any government-related agency making decisions on health, including utility technology decisions, consult with an independent health council composed of physicians, biomedical researchers, environmental health specialists, affected residents, and other qualified experts before implementation. This council should provide ongoing transparent guidance on the health impacts of smart meter technology and other sources of electromagnetic radiation. The evidence of health concerns is no longer unsettled enough to justify moving forward without oversight. The prudent path is to proceed carefully, monitor rigorously, and protect those most at risk. I ask this council to exercise informed oversight with wisdom and care for every resident, especially those least able to advocate for themselves. I'm happy to provide any documentation and research citations for any future agenda >> Ma'am, can >> item on this matter. >> Can you either turn your notes in to the clerk because you mentioned EMR RF title two, but I didn't get the last part after the title two. I'd like to do my own research. >> Sure, of course. >> Um and obviously I'm not going to research it right this minute, but the only way for me to get all that information is if you could give it to staff to send to us. >> Is it possible for me to email this over to you? >> Yes. Our our information is on the city website. >> Okay, great. Thank you. >> Thank you. Anyone else would like to address city council on a matter not on the agenda? Three minutes. And sign in and name and address. >> I don't want my time to start. >> [laughter] >> Right. Till you get done signing in, I get it. >> Okay. Good evening, Mayor and City Council. Thank you for the opportunity to speak before you. Um I think what I have to present is related to just the previous comments. Um and we have a concern about the rapid deployment of wireless infrastructure in our community without community input or with little community input. So, I I guess the question is why haven't we heard more about wireless infrastructure concerns um both in our community and just in the world in general. >> [snorts] >> Um the laws that apply um are under the telecommunications sector. And the Federal Communications Commission or the FCC, as you probably know, governs the telecommunications sector. Um in 1996, there was a telecommunications Act and uh Andrea just spoke about it. Um they were they're relying on 30-year-old data to make all of the recommendations on the safety of the radio frequency emissions. Um there is a particular code within uh that Act called Section 704. And it says that no state or local government or instrumentality thereof, that would be you, um may regulate the placement, construction, and modification of personal wireless service facilities on the basis of the environmental effects of radio frequency emissions to the extent that such facilities comply with the FCC's regulations concerning such emissions. So, you can kind of guess there might be a problem if the FCC is relying on 30-year-old data. What's happened in telecommunications in the past 30 years? Well, a lot. So, there are some court interpretations of this particular section, uh and they have deemed that environmental effects equal human health effects. So, just sit on that for a moment. That if 30-year-old data they're relying on says that the RF frequencies are safe for you, and they don't cause harm, but there is a lot of data since then that says there is extreme harm. You can't do anything about it. To me, that's a problem. Other interpretations include that local jurisdictions, such as yourself, cannot regulate other forms of wireless technologies, including cell towers, wireless controllers, access point devices, Wi-Fi routers, cell phones, because the FCC has the sole authority to regulate the safety of these devices. As long as the RF emissions are within the FCC's limits, people cannot sue the device manufacturer for their RF injuries. FCC safety standards are behind the times by 30 years plus. Andrea mentioned a recent court order uh from 2020, where they were taken to court, and the court uh did not side with them and said that their arbitrary guidelines were capricious and not evidence-based and in violation of the Administrative Procedures Act, and that they must re-examine its health and safety guidelines for 5G and other wireless-based technologies. >> Okay. Okay, we're at our 3 minutes. Do you have a closing comment? >> I will give a closing. We believe these laws are unconstitutional. They strip away our rights. And I would like to make a call of action to you as our local elected leaders. Please exercise your constitutional rights and protect the constitutional rights of the citizens of Shakopee. And in doing so, we want you to know that we have your back. Thank you. >> Thank you. Anybody else would like to address council on a matter not on the agenda? On an item not on the agenda. Okay, moving on. Item number seven is business removed from consent agenda. Councilor Lara, you removed five Nancy. >> Yes, I just wanted to uh give acknowledgement to the Frederick's family for their donation of the flagpole for the Miracle I don't know the any background behind as to why they wish to make a donation if it's in behalf of somebody or if they just want to be generous. I just wanted to give um acknowledgement to that donation. So. >> Very good. Are they here tonight? Park and Rec Director? >> Uh their main reason for wanting to donate it is so that the players in the Miracle League um could have a flag to look towards when they sing the national anthem. So that's the the why behind it. >> It's quite the expense. We really appreciate it. Can you relay that to them for us, please? >> I sure will. >> Thank you. Mr. Lara? >> So with that um I'd like to make a motion to adopt resolution R 2026-111. Donation for a flagpole at the Miracle League field. >> Is there a second to the motion? >> I'll second that. >> Councilor Whiting? Discussion on the motion. Discussion? Seeing none, all in favor say I. >> I. >> Opposed? Motion passes. Item number eight, recess for Economic De- Development Authority meeting. Motion to recess would be in order. Councilor Contreras? >> Make a motion to recess to the EDA meeting. >> Is there a second? >> I'll second. >> Seconded by Councilor Lara. Discussion on the motion. Seeing none, all in favor say I. Opposed? We're in recess. I'd like to call to order the Tuesday, August 4th, 2026 meeting of the Shakopee Economic Development Authority. Roll? And uh I don't We're on to item two, approval of the agenda. Is there a motion to approve the agenda? >> Motion made. >> Commissioner Contreras, is there a second? >> Second. >> Seconded by Commissioner Delaney. Uh discussion discussion discussion. All those in favor say I. >> I. >> Uh any opposed? All right. Uh moving on to our consent business. Uh it includes our EDA meeting minutes. Concerns there? Commissioner Lara. >> I'll make a motion to approve the consent business. >> Second. >> Seconded by Commissioner Contreras. Uh discussion discussion discussion. All those in favor say I. >> I. >> Uh any opposed? We uh consent business with our minutes has been approved. Uh any questions on the EDA bill list? >> None for me. >> No questions over here. Uh with that, I'll look for a motion to adjourn. Commissioner Lara. >> I'll make a motion to adjourn um to wouldn't be um September 1st, 2026. >> 7:00 p.m. >> Second. >> Motion is second on the floor. All in favor say I. Any opposed? We stand adjourned. >> Thank you, President Whiting. We can reconvene the Shakopee City Council meeting on item 10A, extension of comprehensive solid waste and recycling contract with Dick's Sanitation Inc. >> Uh Mayor and Council, while our guests come on up to the front here, uh just a brief overview. Uh Shakopee has been with Dick's Sanitation since 2022. Um they've been a wonderful partner in that time. We're proposing to extend the contract. So, the original contract was a 5-year term. There's an optional provision for an extension of one 5-year term and two subsequent 2-year terms. Um so, at this point we are uh recommending to enter into the first of the the first 5-year contract extension term. And representatives from Dick's Sanitation are here to um do a little bit of a presentation and then answer any questions you may have. >> Okay, and before we do that, is there any questions of staff that council members might have? Um I just wanted one or two. The we all got an email I think about why is the city asking or having Dick's Sanitation pay for the clean up day events and some of the community events and stuff and does that take away and from does that make the residents pay more for the service? Um I guess the short answer at least in my mind is um if we're going to pay them to do these services, your taxes would be the offsetting difference. So >> There's no increase in fees because Dick's is volunteering as part of the contract that people on on board here to to work with the city to uh do the clean up days. >> Yep. Okay. Um anything else? I don't think I think that's the only question that I had that was raised by an email to us. Floor is yours, sir. >> So Good evening, Mayor and Council. I'm Jeff Wiest, sales manager for Dick Sanitation. With me tonight is Megan Thompson, our municipal representative. Um I just want to thank the city for partnering with Dick Sanitation. It's amazing that it's already 5 years. It seems like we were just here, right? Um but we look forward to a long term partnership and with that I just kind of want to give a couple items of note for the future. Um one of the things that we're investing in right now is really a track your truck. It will be similar to UPS or other items where residents will actually be able to see real time how far away their truck is. You'd be amazed how many residents call our customer service at 7:35 cuz the truck is usually there at 7:30 and he's 5 minutes late. Regardless of what kind of snowfall or rain or traffic, right? So, um we're looking forward to that. It I think it'll help um even our customer service department. A lot of these things will uh help just the seamless transition for residents, right? Um we are implementing cameras onto our residential trucks. We have them now currently in our commercial trucks. Um the benefit is a couple of things I'll talk about, but it's going to actually identify what's put in the hopper. We want to make sure that if we're picking up trash, that there's not a television or something improper uh that's in that container. Um one thing in recycling, well, there's still a fire in a recycling either MRF truck or facility almost daily across the United States. >> What's a MRF? >> Material recovery facility, a basically a processing center for recycling. >> Okay. >> And uh 98% of them are caused from lithium ion batteries. And you know, trying to communicate as much as possible that they they don't belong in the trash or the recycling. And it you know, we just had a fire 2 weeks ago. Um and you know, these trucks are not inexpensive to operate. And procedure is to dump the load as quickly as possible, clean it up afterward. Um we're safe there, but it's amazing how quick they go up, too, right? >> So, you've got your your opportunity right now to regular batteries, 9-volt, uh double A, they're not lithium. >> Mhm. >> Where do they go? >> Well, um to me, I would bring them to the uh city of Scott or Scott County. >> Scott County hazardous waste site. >> Haz waste site. Yep. >> Okay. Can they go in the trash? >> Um residentially, they can. >> Okay. But, the lithium cannot. >> Lithium cannot. >> Okay. >> Well, it it Lithium batteries are one thing. We get bowling balls in the recycling containers, you name it because brake rotors, people go, "Oh jeez, this is metal, it's recyclable." It may be recyclable, it's not processable. And I think that's one of the things people think you can throw anything in recycling and and there's these magic recycle fairies. That's not what happens. Right? Um but one of the things that's going to be important here is coming up is uh in 2030, there will be mandated organics collection. And I think this benefit of having these cameras in our residential trucks, one of the biggest issues is having contaminated organics. It's a bigger issue today. Dick's Sanitation is one of the pioneers in organics collection in the metro. We've seen the facilities really limit contamination and if we're going to have this moving forward, let's do it right. And these cameras are going to identify items that shouldn't be in there. So, it's it's actually pretty exciting. As much as trash can be. So, um but we look forward to a continued partnership and I'll I'll stand up for any questions. >> Questions, Mr. Delaney? >> For the um organic waste collection, will that container be provided at no additional cost or how is that rolled out? >> Oh, there will definitely be additional cost. We're not sure what that looks like yet today. Again, it's far enough away where there could be, not saying it happens, but there could be a co-mingled collection between your trash and organics and it all goes into one container. We're not there yet. >> Thank you. Any other questions? Um Mr. Lara? >> Um on the proposed additional pricing, I just had a question about the Christmas tree pricing. $26 seems a little steep for recycling a Christmas tree. Can you describe the process of how that came up like What's the process of that? >> Sure. Um I guess I would relate it to any service you have, call a plumber and have them come to your house, you're probably going to be charged $150 before they ever come to your house, and it's really about efficiencies. The difference between 10 years ago, 5 years ago, and today, and moving forward, is you actually have less Christmas trees on the road. It's efficiency. >> Dumped in the woods or the river. Or burned in the fire. >> And and again, you still have especially here in Shakopee, the SMSC, I think they still for 2 weeks, I think they still allow you to drop them off free. Trust me, we don't want to be in the Christmas tree picking up business. >> I have two. >> Sure. >> Um would be our page 78. Section four, collection equipment and personnel. 4.3.1 says DSI shall be responsible to notify customers receiving service in the alleyways that their service will be provided curbside when road weight restrictions are in effect. The reason I bring this up is every year I go through the same thing with staff. Um many of the alleyways in Shakopee are not under the state of Minnesota's road restrictions, they're owned by the city. And there are certain areas with with within town for topographical reasons have alley only service. Um so this is basically saying that them year-round alley services are going to be notified when weight restrictions that don't apply legally are in effect, that they're going to have curbside pickup, which is impossible. So, we need to clarify that. There is a map somewhere that shows that. >> There's a map and I believe it's four blocks that are affected in the city. Uh and every year uh Mhm. ensure that sometimes the communication is not good, but the the alleyways themselves in those four blocks are allowed to have service. Which is the way it's been for 15 years. >> Right. So, this I don't know if it's spelled out in the contract, but this is kind of saying that that doesn't exist. Uh, the other item that I have was um, the size of recycle bin options. We have one, 85 gallon. And I talked to a lot of seniors in town, and they have the very small garbage can, which they put one bag, usually in a paper bag, right? It's all they generate. Two old folks in the in their home yet. And same with their recycle. They've got one little recycle bag in this great big giant cart that they wrestle to get out to the curb, and it's just so over- sized, where we have sizes for garbage, but we don't have sizes for recycle. I don't know how to address that, because it's not there's nothing in here about it. >> So, again, to start this off, we used and purchased the city's carts. So, to come in with new existing or or add from the existing would be difficult. >> Well, >> but it doesn't mean we can't do it. >> Right. What I was thinking is since we offer multiple size in the garbage, if you have an old couple that doesn't use anything, why couldn't we recycle our our garbage can by putting recycle on the lid, and using it as a smaller recycle for these folks? >> Yeah. So, there's definitely we're open to any of this, right? We're in a phase right now where the carts were replacing them constantly, right? They're kind of an end of life. >> Mine's busted by the way, but it still works. >> just let us know, but that's where we're at today. So we have no problem. I can say that going forward, the idea is that you're recycling more and you have very little trash, right? And that's the avenue that a lot of municipalities and PCA, everybody's looking more. That's one of the reasons why we're going to organize collection for organics, right? So that we're not filling up landfills. But we're certainly open and I can tell you already we're doing some of that in some cases. That if especially with senior or elderly residents, we're willing to work on any of that. >> And how do they go about that? Call you? >> They typically call us. Yep. >> And just to clarify, my cart has got a crack on the back, but it's not your fault. It's plastic. It's lasted a very long time, longer than I ever thought it would. So it's built pretty good actually. >> Well, that's good to hear, but yeah, that's where we're in today is in the replacement phase. >> Okay. Anything else? Mr. Rounds. >> Mayor and council, I would just simply say that uh you know, from a customer service standpoint, the city with the previous hauler used to get a ton of questions and concerns and issues. And uh uh the first year we had some stuff we had to work out, which was not unexpected, but but at this point uh you know, from a staff level, we don't spend a lot of time on trash complaints and issues, which was not the case before. So uh hats off to Dick's. They've been a great partner. Uh anytime we have any issue, we can call Jeff and Jeff is going to take care of it. Uh it's been great. >> And your app that you guys came out with a while back that helped quite a bit, too. >> Yes. It it it's amazing. Chelsea and I were talking about some of this, right? Um, right now there's over 31,000 people, not all Shakopee, right? But there's over 31,000 people that utilize this app. Um, month over month, there were 2,700 people that utilized our app to research an item. Last month, that was 2,400. So, 300 people more uh looked into the app to see, "Hey, what do I do with this item?" And what were these people doing 5 years ago before this app? It was probably going in the recycling or in the rubbish, you know, right? So, and again, we we try to be a good partner with the with the city, right? We're also partners with the Miracle Field. We'll donate to other organizations. We do the right thing. >> Yeah, I think the joint uh website interactions, the app, and uh the the what is recyclable or what is not magnet that you guys give out at some of your things. It's on our refrigerator. Comes in handy, very handy. Did you have something, counselor? >> Um, it just a comment. My favorite feature is the text reminder, and it's not I know when it's coming. It's just reminding me is it trash or recycle, like the both or one, and I'm like, "Where is it?" Every night, I mean, every Wednesday, I'm like, "Yep, that's what it is." And me being able to forward it to the boys, and I'm like, >> [laughter] >> So, thank you. >> Yeah, good. >> Kids don't miss text messages very often. >> So, yeah, that's my >> Any other questions from council? All right, what's the wishes of Mr. Whiting? >> Uh first, I want to thank you for being part of our community with some of your donations that you were just talking about and helping us out at the cleanup day and things like that. But having said that, I'd make a motion to approve the service contract extension for comprehensive solid waste and recycling services between uh City of Shakopee and Dick's Sanitation. >> Second. >> We have a motion and a second it by counselor Delaney. And that motion is for a 5-year as outlined in the memo? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Discussion. Mr. Lara. >> So, our last page, we get a monthly breakdown for '26, '27, '28 for basically for the term and then it breaks quarterly. So, it's telling us this is what your expected rate increases are to be. But then when we go look on page R83, and that would be line 12.5.1, rate increase, it basically says that rate increases outside of that can occur. >> Yes, in the original contract, there was carve-outs for things that were out of our control or their control. Fuel prices was one thing. Um and what was the other There was one other or two other ones, Mr. Reynolds or city administrator assistant? >> Disposal. >> Tipping charge or something. >> Yep, disposal fees. >> Disposal fees. >> We all know that the state and federal governments have many more requirements on landfills, where you can take this stuff to and and in fairness, if the rules are changed in the middle of the game and now they have to change how they dispose of this stuff, um that's certainly not their fault, not our fault. Uh just a predicament by somebody else threw into the mix. And it would be unfair for any uh business to not be able to absorb that into the model, regardless of what business you're in. >> So, I mean to I mean just in my opinion, it just then makes this, you know, useless because um in 2028, it could go up to who knows we we don't know. It we and I get we can't we can't we don't we can't see into the future. We don't know what policies can be like you said can occur. But I don't know. It just I think if you're going to provide a chart that says here here's what you're um what we're voting on is what your expected rate increases are and I to take that into consideration, but then really it's not going to be accurate. Um I think it's something that if you're going to provide that, then you should agree to it and lock into it for that term. That's just my opinion. >> Mr. Isles. >> Yeah, it's accurate unless there's some intervening events such as increased tipping fees or or other things that happen occur. Um it's a 5-year contract. We have to have some flexibility built into it. And you know, that's that's not unusual in these type of contracts. >> And then lastly, um I think that it would be responsible of us as a taxpayers funds is to when we when contracts do come up for renewal, I do understand that we did get four qualified responses the first time we did this with two of them being able to meet our requirements. But who's to say that there's new people that said, "Hey, we can meet those requirements and actually we can save you some money." Um So I just I would think it'd be a good due diligence for us to at least have that option to be if there's any other players that would come forward for us to consider. But again, my opinion. >> Respectable opinion. >> But that's it. >> That's all I got. >> I don't disagree with some of I actually I was thinking the opposite. Maybe our our requirements are too too strict. Or um you know, maybe we don't have a closed system. We've had that discussion over the years many times too and let everybody decide who they're going to have for service provider. Um a lot of ways you can do this, but uh >> If I may, I think one of there are multiple benefits to a closed system. One of the best is the economies of scale. So, individuals right now are paying almost 50% less than they would if they were doing it on their own. And the reason is is because if you think about it, if you had multiple uh uh services on one particular street, let's say you have five different homes being serviced by four different companies. They're driving to that one place, picking up one, and moving on, and then driving to another. By having a closed system, Dicks hits each and every one, which will bring the ultimate price down because the more people that you're servicing with the less distance, the cheaper it's going to be. Uh we did the price comparison, and I think it was a little almost 50% less than, if I remember correctly, uh uh than what they could do on their own. The other thing city infrastructure. Uh having less big trucks on residential roads uh means that our streets last longer. So, uh I think you certainly can cannot have a closed system. Many Many cities do, uh but there are definitely benefits to having one. >> Mhm. >> I do like the closed system. I just think that we should >> Yeah. >> allow other people to say, "Hey, here's our proposal." But that's it. That's all I got. >> All right. Any other discussion? >> Just to the point on it, it's quite an operation going out to bid on that trash contract. It's not something I mean, we've had some problems in the past, but uh I think we've hearing nothing from our constituents is a good thing. >> Well, if I can add, um not receiving the amount of emails we've gotten before, I was very satisfied and I was like, "Okay, I think we're doing something good." So, that's why, yeah, we're good. >> Um before we vote, one last question. What's the likelihood of the future having the things on both sides of the truck so it doesn't go down and turn around and come back through? >> I I don't see that happening anytime soon. It's similar to electric trucks, right? We've invested in a couple of electric trucks. Um there's some great ideas behind it and in some areas they're successful. Minnesota having weather issues, hot, cold, the weight of the batteries. The two-sided arms, I don't see that happening anytime soon. I can tell you our number one core value as a company is safety. And one of the reasons with these cameras in the trucks, some of the stuff I see daily is it's crazy, right? So, I don't see that happening anytime soon. >> The roads are crazy. >> Yeah, the sewer videos, we we see trash videos. >> Very good. >> All right. >> All right, any other any other discussion, Council? We do have a motion and a second. No more discussion? All in favor say I. >> I. >> Opposed? >> I. >> Motion passes 4 to 1, Councilor Lara in the negative. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. 10B, monthly financial review. City Finance Director Reinhardt will present. >> Uh good evening, Mayor. Uh tonight and as the Mayor has said, I'll be covering the monthly financial review uh through June, which also include the second quarter investment report. Uh so, here's the general fund through June 30th, so midpoint through the year. Uh this is probably the first time we can look at um this financial report and and get a good feel for where we're headed uh for the full year. Uh there is still plenty of um caveats. There's certain things that will come up um through now and the end of the year that you don't really anticipate. Um there's also some um seasonal differences such as building permits are typically um received in the spring and grants are typically received in the fall, but generally this speaking this will give you kind of a idea of or a snapshot of where we could end end the year. Um since it does include also the first uh first half tax element. Uh so with that being said, if you look at the very bottom line, which is literally the bottom line of the the slide shown here, uh revenues are exceeding expenses by 1.8 million. Uh in comparison to midway through last year we were at 3.2 million. Uh last year we did end up uh positive by a a significant amount. Uh so with some confidence we can assume we're on track to uh be positive for this year as well, uh which is excellent position up through this point. Uh on the expenditure side we are within our our budget target uh in total and when considering each department um budget reasonably within expectations for the year. Uh the one red arrow of course is finance or it. Uh but this um this is mainly due to due to the timing of the large payments for the audit contract and the assessing contract that's at the start of the year. Um so as we close the year we'll probably be um within the budget target. Um and then lastly I just want to mention the SAFER grant and and fire department staffing. Um with the approval of the SAFER grant uh in November the council did approve a budget amendment for 2026. Uh those are not reflected within uh the budget numbers on this page. So uh the additional firefighters were hired in March, which explains why the fire department is at about 58% of their budget. Um and then similar to what we've done in the past, we've um brought forward a a summary of budget amendments towards the end of the year and then um reflected the budget to to show that, um which would be for both the firefighter expense and then the grant revenue expense. Um moving on to the first or the second quarter uh investment report. Um obviously a lot more details in your packet, but uh this slide shows interest earnings through the first half uh in comparison to the previous 4 years, uh the purple line being 2026. Uh we're at about 1.6 million through June 30th, so up a little bit from the past 2 years, in the past 4 years. Um and I would expect us to be um ahead of what we see in the past 4 years. And then the last slide, um again, purple line being 2026. Uh this shows the unrealized realized gain or loss, or the otherwise known as the market value adjustment of the investments for the year. Uh the last 3 years, we had a pretty significant unrealized gain as interest rates um kind of stayed flattered or shifted downward. Uh in the last uh quarter, we've seen rates come up a little bit um in comparison to December 2025. Uh specifically in the 3-to-5-year range. Uh and we currently show an unrealized loss of 892,000. Uh we do intend to hold all uh investments until maturity. Um and then once again, we only record the unrealized gain loss once a year at December 31st. Um hard to really know where interest rates will go from here, um but last year at this time, we had an inverted yield curve, meaning short-term rates were higher uh than long-term rates. And and now we're back to a more traditional yield curve, where uh higher or the further out you you invest, the the higher the yields typically are. Uh so with that, I can stand for any questions that you might have. >> Questions to staff? >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> 11A, review preliminary 2027-2031 capital improvement plan. >> Um so that's me again. Uh good evening, Mayor and council members. Uh so uh tonight we have a workshop on the capital improvement plan. Um I will go through the presentation um in kind of a summarized fashion, but um, the department heads, uh, Mr. Jordan, Mr. Kurski, Mr. Egan, they're all here to answer specific questions that you might have on on projects. Um, so just usually start with a little background just to provide a little context. Uh, capital improvement plan, um, commonly we refer to it as the CIP. Uh, it's a non-binding document of future intent of city capital projects over the next 5 years. Uh, we've also updated a 20-year equipment replacement plan, uh, which is in the appendix section, uh, of the draft that we provided council. And then we're currently in the process of updating our 15-year CIP once we've got our kind of our 5 years in place. Uh, the process and document itself, uh, allows the city to plan for some more larger, uh, complex projects. Uh, and then by design the CIP is is an ever-evolving plan, uh, because priorities can change dramatically based on current circumstances. Uh, ultimately, um, the 27 projects listed in the plan will be incorporated with the 27 budget, uh, and then approved with the adoption of the budget, um, but um, one thing I should mention on that is our purchasing policy requires council approval, uh, on purchases over 25,000. Uh, so projects listed in our plan will, uh, ultimately require separate city council approval before any of these projects can move forward. Uh, we have further, uh, prioritized the list of capital projects, uh, based on the estimated year needed and based on, um, anticipated funding opportunities. Uh, and then we've also provided, uh, priority definitions along, um, along with examples within the document, but I'd simply, um, think of these as priorities one have to do, two smart to do, and three, uh, want to do. Uh, schedule, so tonight we're at our preliminary review. Uh, in October we'd asked, um, for the CIP to be adopted by city council, and then in December, um, the 27 projects will be adopted with the annual budget process. Uh here's the expenditures by fund. Um over the 5-year CIP, we have 118.2 million of projects identified uh with 30.4 million in 2027. Uh larger projects projects are included in the buildings capital improvement and park developments funds. Um I will go through um each one of these funds in more detail. Um and then here's the funding source summary. Uh I just wanted to emphasize the projects at various funding sources. Uh when the source listed as fund, um such as the building internal service fund or the capital improvement fund, uh revenues can include non-specific revenues of that fund as well. So, um in total, funding sources include park dedication fees, uh local, state, and federal grants, uh cost sharing with local partners, franchise fees, special assessments, internal rent charges for various departments, and then utility charges for uh sanitary sewer and storm drainage funds. Um so, I wanted to walk through each of the funds tonight starting with the capital projects funds, uh which would include uh park development, capital improvement, and and the tree replacement fund. Um just by definition, capital projects funds are are used to keep track of funding and costs for larger projects uh that often often span uh more than 1 year, especially in the case of many of our park and road projects. Uh in the CIP book, um each project has one project page for in within a single fund, uh but they may um consist of portions of various funds. Uh example would be a street reconstruction project, which would be a street and then uh portion would be sanitary sewer and storm. Um all those are still within one project, but um would show the other two funds as funding sources. Um Yeah, if that makes sense. Um so, the park development fund, um which was established to fund new parks or park enhancements, um primarily funded from park dedication fees. Uh, since 2021, uh, the fund has received 16.2 million of park dedication fees. Uh, the parks listed here either have, um, park dedication dedication fees received for their development or are contingent upon receiving park dedication fees or external funding to complete. Uh, we've identified 12 million in projects in the CIP for park development. Um, five of them in '27, um, which is the Riverfront Regional Shoreline Trails, uh, the Woodmere Bluff Regional Corridor Cultural Corridor, uh, Memorial Park Playground Replacement, and Shoot Park, which is within the Cannery development. The Capital Improvement Fund, um, commonly referred to that as the CI CIF Fund in short, uh, comes for infrastructure improvements, uh, primarily streets. Uh, funding is coming from a 1.5 million Capital Improvement Fund Levy, uh, about 950,000 a year in franchise fees, 2 million in, uh, Municipal State Aid Construction Funds, and then additionally you see projects, um, that also have a portion funded through special assessments. Um, this shows, uh, '27 and '28 projects. I have the '29 through '31 on the next slide, um, as they don't all fit on the slide where it would make it readable. Um, but the '27 projects include, uh, the final phase of the downtown rehab project, uh, a little over 5 million for reconstruction projects, uh, 1.16 uh, million for mill and overlays, and then annual trail pavement alley construction, trail extensions, um, and other improvements. Uh, the County Highway 17 project, that would include the city portion for the trail and underpass. And then the final 3 years here, um, within the CIF Fund, uh, the quiet zone, uh, improvements shown here would be in coordination with the Union Pacific, and that is contingent upon outside funding. Um, here is the funding source summary from the CIP book for the capital improvement fund. Uh, the amounts I have highlighted do not have a specific, uh, specific source of funding. Um, as you can see, state aid, special assessments, and cost share are all listed separately. Uh, the only reoccurring, uh, funding being provided that makes up that capital improvement fund line item, uh, is the capital improvement levy and the franchise fees. Um, one correction on the slide, um, the levy should be 1.5 million. If you see my note below, that should be 1.5 million and the total funding should be 2.45 million. I didn't update it from a previous slide, so I apologize for that. But, um, annually those rev- revenues add up to, uh, 2.45 million. So, you can see there's a gap between what we have for annual funding and what we have for annual street projects. Uh, the 7.8 million in projects, uh, compared to the 2.45 million in funding for '27. So, each year it ends up being about a $5 million gap. Um, so earlier this year, City Council adopted a street reconstruction plan, uh, that paved the way for a up on sale to close the funding gap between the that was noticed on the previous slide. Uh, in September, October, uh, staff will start working on the preliminary official statement, um, and then also the bond structure. This will bring forward to City Council on November 17th, uh, and ask City Council to authorize a bond sale. And then a ratings call would happen, um, the week uh, following that, actually the first week of December. Um, and then, uh, bond issuance, uh, would be presented to Council on December 15th, um, for award. Uh, so here's is, um, kind of what the financial impact would look like on a $10 million bond sale and versus, uh, no bond sale. Um, so this was, uh, under the assumption of of this happening again this later this year. I did, um, use the same slide that we prepared in January when we talked about the street reconstruction. Um, when we start talk about the street reconstruction plan, so some of the interest rates have probably changed slightly, probably a little bit higher, um but it still gives you a general idea. So, the benefit of doing the bond sale is being able to spread the cost impact uh over a period of time. Annually, repayment would be about 1.16 million on a $10 million bond. Um 22 2027 would be an interest-only payment, a smaller interest-only payment, and then the first uh debt service levy wouldn't occur until 2028. Uh the impact on the home on a $350,000 home would be about 43 bucks. Uh alternatively alternatively, we discussed what um what might happen if we um decided to increase the CIF levy um and try to increase that to accomplish the $10 million over 3 years. Uh so, we're looking at a a 3 million plus um annual increase in that levy beginning in 2027 and still potentially having to defer um some of the projects or borrow money elsewhere to complete. So, that is um will be the staff recommendation later this year, and we've built um we'll build our budget assumptions on the idea that we'll be issuing debt for these projects and closing that gap. And then the only other capital project fund is the tree replacement fund, but um so, that's financed through charges to developers for tree replacement. So, that's completely contingent upon what we receive in a given year. I can pause for questions if anybody has any questions before I move on. I don't want to Okay. Uh internal service funds, um so, they operate slightly different than the capital project funds. So, um these are funded through rent charges of the various departments. Um basically, the rent charges then provide uh funding for future replacement of buildings and equipment. Uh this allows us to keep uh consistent consistent expense amounts in operation instead of large up and down swings from year to year depending on what comes up for replacement. Uh the four internal service funds that we use um are the uh equipment replacement park asset uh information technology and buildings. Uh for equipment um I'm just going to show the 27 equipment here here on the slide. Um the remaining years can be found in both um the CIP section and also the equipment replacement schedule. Uh we do have 1.46 million programmed for 27. Uh this does include um three additions to the city fleet uh which would be the code compliance truck um which would be equipped to uh safely transport animals, a pickup truck for the battalion chiefs to utilize in the fire department, and an electric vehicle vehicle for building inspections. Uh you'll notice that uh the new additional um ones are all labeled new um and our typical practice has been to fund these new additions out of the general fund for the first year and then build these in the replacement schedule for future years. So these will also be brought up in the budget conversation as well. Um the other larger uh replacement purchases um for 27 are the animal squad car replacements, uh rescue truck for fire replacements of uh the John Deere tractor and 4x4 truck, two-ton truck for public works in the park department. >> Do we lease that park tractor? Is that a lease turn back or do we just own it? We own the tractor? You So if we have all these other leases on other pieces of equipment, why do we own the this one tractor? >> It's cheaper than a >> Yeah, I had to um kind of re-respond for for Mr. Egan is that the cost is cheaper. Yeah, there's very few pieces of equipment that we lease. >> Smaller pieces, I take it. >> Some of them we turn over quicker. >> Yeah. >> You get a little buyback out of them. >> Um it's uh equipment replacement schedule size mentioned that it's listed in the the back of the book as the appendix and um there's there's a full um kind of section on there. Um we do not have any uh PC equipment that has longer than a 20-year replacement life. So that schedule does encompass every single piece of equipment and vehicle that we own. Um and also includes the replacement dates, life, and costs um which has been a great tool for us internally um as we try to ensure we have adequate funding and and be able to maintain and replace our fleet. Um so here's just kind of a screenshot. Actually, it's probably from from last year's book, but um as an example of what that looks like. Uh generally speaking, um we've used a a 3% inflation factor for uh future replacement costs. Um last year we had a pretty significant increase in our our our rent charge um just based on the rising equipment costs. Um this year we've tried to keep that minimal. Uh we'll be proposing a $40,000 increase with the budget um because we still believe um we've got enough balance and we we'll still be able to meet our needs. Um but the average cost over that 20 years 2.95 million in in equipment and that would include every equipment, fire trucks, and snow plows, and everything. Uh the park asset fund so provides the funding for the replacement of park equipment. Um 27 projects include the annual um trail, fence, and parking lot reconstruction, um Hamlet Park playground replacement, resurfacing of cloverleaf courts, and the First Avenue retaining wall. Uh the parking lot improvement for this year is the downtown uh Fuller Second Avenue parking lot. Um total project slated for uh '27 is uh just under 800,000 and in the 5-year plan a total of 5.2 million. Uh the information technology fund pays for annual technology costs. Those include costs with um uh the LoGis Consortium, hardware replacement costs, software costs, and network costs. 27 total project cost is 843,000. And then the building fund pays for city building improvements and replacements. I have just the next 2 years listed on the slide. 29 through 31 can be found in your book. Again, there's just too many projects to fit in one slide. Then unfortunately, the software also switched the format in this year of the report, so it's even harder to condense this down into one slide to make it readable. But the 27 28 projects, so the 2 years that are listed on here, I include the hub which is again contingent upon securing successful funding for the AC condenser units for police and the library buildings, roof replacement for 500 Gorman public works building and police building, community center pool heat exchangers and flooring roof top units, and conversion of the locker room space to a multi-purpose program programming space. Total projects in 27 are for 9.1 million. We are proposing an increase in rents of about 30,000 within for the buildings fund as our buildings continue to age and our replacement costs continue to rise. Then the last two funds would be our enterprise funds or utility funds. These are all funded through external utility charges. So the rates of these funds are set to be sufficient to fund operations, equipment, infrastructure, so everything that goes into into operating these utilities. Starting with the sanitary sewer fund, identified about 1.5 million in projects for 27, which include sorry, trunk sewer extensions. The largest planned improvements are for lift stations, which include the South Louisville Jackson lift station in 27, West End lift station in 2031, and then the largest planned expense for the the sewer fund uh is the L16 dual force main improvements at about 3 million in 2029. And the last fund here is the storm drainage fund, um total of 4.6 million uh included over the 5 years including 1.7 for 2027. Uh those projects for next year include annual storm pond improvements, annual native vegetation management, uh Arbor Bluff uh West End regional pond, West End weather station, and a skid steer uh tractor, and a skid pressure washer replacement. Um with that, I can just kind of open up to any questions that you might have. >> [snorts] >> Questions of staff? Questions of staff? Sure, I was going to ask with the ER our ERP system, when is uh is that like every couple of years is on the IT? >> Yeah, so um there's a bigger story behind that. Um so uh the the intention was to implement a new ERP system along with um the other members of the Logis Consortium, which um more or less hit a snag and is not going to move forward. Um so we had set aside uh money originally back a couple years ago to to pay for that transition to that new system. Um we do believe that we'll have a new um we'll have to look into a new system in the upcoming years. So we've left that money set aside, but that um expenditure as planned or that change in transition to a new system that will will not occur as as originally intended, but we've left the money within that fund that have the funding available. >> Thank you. >> Do you have a question? >> No. >> Okay. Couple of questions on uh page 401 funding source summary, it says general fund for 2027 239 600. >> Oh. >> Yeah, I think you >> Yeah, so let me get there so we're all kind of on the same page here. So I believe it's this page that you're referring to. >> Yep. >> Yeah, so what that that would represent would be those those equipment items that I have addressed as new. So that would come be the original funding that would come out of the general fund to make the initial purchase and then following that those items would then be added to the equipment replacement schedule and and funded through rent charges. >> Okay, and then equipment rent uh building rent these dollars come through in individual department budgets, correct? >> Yeah, they're they're they're funded by through the individual department budgets based on um well, for equip- equipment for example, based on the equipment they're replacing. So obviously the public works charges charges would be more than let's say facilities. We may only have one vehicle. Um >> Right, but I'm saying they take their budget and they put that rent charges just to be really simple, we'll use Play Stop Department. Their budget is X amount of dollars. Within that X amount of dollars they're including what they're paying on equipment rent for their equipment. >> That is correct. >> Okay, so that money is coming from the property tax dollars. >> Correct. >> Right? So we're raising the rent, building rent, we're raising the equipment rent. Was there another one that we're raising? >> Um the IT rent too, we've also got a inflation factor in. >> Okay. And then we're going to sell bonds to do some of these projects and we're going to put the bond repayment in 28 onto the general levy property tax payer payments, right? >> Yep. >> Right? And will any of these things will we receive any dollars for any of these things from any properties property tax dollars in a TIF district? >> Yeah. >> you will you will continue to receive the same amount of dollars that were in effect when the TIF was was uh started. >> But not afterward. >> Not until the TIF is extinguished. >> Okay. And does does looking out 15 years and seeing what the shortfalls are causing increases today for people here today um disproportionately for the future? >> Well, I think >> that's a hard one because we really break it down to 5 years, right? >> I think it's important to recognize that it's a shifting plan. And I say this every year. >> Yep. >> The only thing that we're really focused on is a 2027. Everything else is just kind of those darts out on the board that we're working towards. A lot of it is that we don't have the funds for yet. And once we get to the get once we receive the funds, we will then place that back onto uh that current year's budget for to move things forward. Uh but there are things on this that will never happen. You know, you look you look at uh 2031, 2035, whatever. There are things there that probably aren't going to happen for a lot of reasons. We may not have the funding for it. Uh the the council may look at something different. Uh technologies could change and make things irrelevant. So, um what we what we try to focus on is 2027 and making those numbers work recognizing that the shortfalls that are out there aren't real yet. >> I guess then my last uh question and concern is if we and this is for 28 because that's when any bond payments for capital would kick in. At the same time, we're going to have that along with your standard cost of living increases and all these other increased costs. So, that's going to be a pretty substantial increase. And at least that's kind of what I'm thinking it might be. Hopefully, I'm wrong. Um >> There this budget is going to be a difficult budget. Um in in in 2027. And the biggest reason for that is that we went to 24/7 operations uh with two stations uh with our fire department. Uh most other things are well within the realm of expectation. Uh and we as one of the lowest tax communities in the state uh certainly have been cognizant of the impact on taxpayers for decades. And we will continue to do that, but the reality is every organization, every city that has went through this transformation with fire which we have to do because we haven't been able to get the normal amount of firefighters we that we needed previously. And And that's exactly what's happening all across the metro and frankly all across the United States. If it was up to me, I would love to go back to a paid on-call system because it's the most effective and cheapest, but the reality is it doesn't work anymore. So, we made the decision to go into uh the two-station 24/7, and that will have an impact. Uh Prior Lake's impact, I think, was 13% in one particular year. That will not be our impact, but it will be significant. Uh Nate and I are still working on the budget, but I I I want to make sure that we all understand there's no free ride. And you know, we have to step up to the plate and do something. This will be the biggest budget I've ever put in front of you. Uh but it's because of specifically 95% because of that event. And and and the the increased safety that we now have for our our residents is is certainly to be welcomed, but it comes with a price. >> Any questions, uh staff? Mr. Lara. >> Yeah, um me again. [clears throat] Lions Park outdoor rink. This I know that it's not a project until 2028, 2029, and we just had mentioned that we're focusing on 2027. But the reason why I'm bringing this up and wanting to talk has the city ever um considered or um how other cities have, for example, I have pulled up here Lakeville has the Align and Align Health Pavilion rink. And we are looking to do the same thing that they are. Have you ever looked into seeing if we could find a partner like that for us to help offset costs? Um I know Woodbury has something similar. Um I'm sure there's others, but could we get something like that from a partner in the community? >> We we we have in the past I've said, "If you want to put your name on a on on a paper clip, uh you know, I and it would offset the it would offset the uh tax levy, I would do that in a heartbeat." Uh yes, uh we have some partnerships uh out there already including with in the communities in the ice arena actually. Uh could we do more and try more? Absolutely. I think that, you know, anytime there's an opportunity um to have other uh organizations protect the tax levy, I'm all for it. >> Um I I will say one of those projects that I mentioned that may never happen, that may be one of those projects that never happens. Uh because it's way over what what the initial estimates were. Uh we were trying to work a deal to get a Dinah's roof off of theirs, >> Uh-oh. >> but it cost more >> to move it in to move it than it >> to move it than than than so it you know, I I Yeah, that that may be a project that never happens. >> But uh but yeah, I just I I think it would be advantageous. I would just be curious to see like Lakeville, how did you get that? What did you say to them? Who did you approach? Um and see what we can get uh as well because you know, it it'd be nice to also get the same things they do, but Anyways, >> You have to really think about it. >> Yeah, true. Yeah. >> Others? >> Yep, I hear you. I was looking for them opportunities. I know we've got a staff that has done a bang-up job in the past and currently in doing just that, so we've got a couple years here. >> All right. >> Any other questions to staff? >> No. >> Okay. >> Thank you, sir. >> Yeah, thank you. >> Item number 12, liaison reports. Let's see, I think we started over here last time. Mr. Larry, you're up. >> Uh nothing for me, sir. >> Councilor Contreras? >> Nothing for me, either. >> Okay. Councilor Whiting? >> Thank you, Councilor Whiting. >> met and I did put a ridership report out for you. Ridership is moving up a little bit. They want to point out uh on that uh be the third page in, I guess, the 11% increase to downtown on our express service and St. Paul, which might have to do with uh uh state government is up 21.5%. Um but look at that connect service. That's the one where you can get on your phone and just call up the the driver and have them come out. That's up 20% across the board. So, um we're getting good ridership. We're moving in the right direction. Um and of course that MVTA connect continues to grow. So, just wanted to point that out. I'm not going to go into great detail, but you have that. If you have any questions, let me know. Um other than that, we worked on um we talked about the Highway 13 construction and our uh MVTA lot down there at the transit station and how we're going to work around that project. What a mess that is. >> And the Cedar Avenue now, too. >> Yeah, another one another one and when um then we talked about the ridership report and then uh talked about our legislative agenda >> and then moving forward next year. >> I would be good for like a 65-70° winters and then we could have year-round construction season. >> [laughter] >> It would probably be easier on the roads and the cars. But well, that's a work in progress. So, it's got I don't know if that's ever going to happen. >> Well, that particular one is quite the mess though. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> 65-70 >> Councilor Laney? >> Yes. >> Okay, we had a Spoke meeting and one of the big things was the they put a policy together for um use of AI in a large LLC. I don't know if that's something that maybe we as a city needs to look at, too, as AI kind of rolls out. And I know there's different uses for it. >> Yeah. >> Did you see the article on AI getting out of its containment? >> I did see that. Interesting. >> Yeah. >> I would be cautious on where you use AI at this point until they get a better handle on, you know, you don't want to put it somewhere and have it get out of its containment and do things that it shouldn't be doing. So, I would put it in areas where there's not a whole lot of uh liability and exposure and you know, public safety issues that may happen. >> Our business has a policy and if they're you trying to leverage it as much as they can. >> Mhm. >> And again, that's one of the things we looked at in spoke was a a use adopting a a use specific use policy kind of state those guidelines. So, again, something to be able to be able to consider uh doing also going forward. And the other thing was uh the Dem-Con. There was a Dem-Con public meeting over at the community center uh to talk about they're converting looks like 2.2 million yards of permitted space uh to municipal solid waste. So, that whole discussion was happening, so. >> Very good. My report, I will hold off until next meeting, Mr. Reynolds. >> Nothing for me, sir. >> Very good. City bill list. >> No questions for me. >> Nothing here. >> Nothing here. >> Nothing, nothing, nothing. News and announcements, Mr. Lara. >> Yep. Uh Rhythm on the Rails it will conclude for the season this Wednesday tomorrow uh 6:00 to 9:00. This is the uh rescheduled rain delay uh for Martin Zeller's tribute to Neil Diamond. Um hope to see you there. >> Huber Park Performance and Event Series, the Percolators play this week in Mitchell Hall and the Tennessee Trio will be playing Thursday um August 13th. Entertainment starts at 7:00 p.m. >> Mr. Whiting. Last one there? >> Sand Ventures last day for the season will be Sunday, August 16th, so get out there while you can. >> Very good. Thank you. >> Those punch cards. >> Anything else? 13, other business. Any other business? Mr. Delaney. >> Oh, yeah. Just a quick comment. While I was attending that Dem-Con conference, um noticed that their parents and parking in front of the community center and uh there's an an ADA ramp there where people try to come up onto the front of the building and they're blocking it on occasion which um kind of hinders our >> They're blocking it a lot. >> Yeah, yes. >> Because parents don't >> Yeah. >> do what they should do. And if it's an issue, have somebody contact the non-emergency police line or uh staff at the community center. I go down there and we've got ice hockey parents that are consistently blocking. >> And it's berms everywhere. >> Uh but you know people don't use stop signs anymore. People don't you know obey traffic lights. You know, we've got we've got e-bikes running crazy running around all over the place, so >> All right. Uh and a handicap spot in front of post office would be appreciated for the handicap also. I'll talk to staff about that when I get a chance. >> Yeah. >> All right, any other business? Motion to adjourn would be in order. Mr. Lara. >> I'll make a motion to adjourn to August 18th, 2026 at 7:00 p.m. >> Is there a second? >> Second. >> Seconded by Mr. Whiting. All in favor, say I. >> I. >> Opposed? We are adjourned.