[Music] We'll call the Shaki City Council meeting to order for April 1st, 2025. And no, it's not April Fools that we're having this meeting. Item number two, we will welcome our new city clerk, Mr. Parsons. Welcome to Shockby. Glad to have you. If you could take the roll call, please. Thank you. Council member Delaney here. Council member Whitening here and welcome. Thank you. Uh Council Member Contraus here. And uh Mayor Leeman here. Thank you. Item number three, stand for the pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Four is approval of the agenda. Is there any changes to the agenda? Uh staff just is going to is going to pull item 5J uh from the consent agenda. Mr. Mayor, that's the only other change. 5J is being removed. Correct. Changes from councel. Seeing none. Wishes of council. Councelor Contrers. I'd like to make a motion to approve the agenda as modified. Second. Second. Seconded by Mr. Delaney. Discussion on the motion. Discussion. All in favor say I. I. I opposed. Motion passes. Item number five, our consent agenda. Is there any changes to the consent agenda? Nothing other than the polling of 5J, sir. Changes from councel. Mr. Whiting. Five I. Five I. Yeah, please pull that. Any other changes from councel? Mr. Whiting. Make a motion to approve the consent agenda as modified. Is there a second? Second. Second by Mr. Delaney. Discussion on the motion. Mr. Reynolds, would you please read the consent agenda, please? Thank you, Mr. Mayor, members of council. These are the consent agenda items for Tuesday, April 1st of 2025. 5A is the 2024 year end general fund transfers and assignment of fund balance. 5B is the joint powers agreement for roadway pavement maintenance. 5 C is the hiring of a fourperson for public works. 5D is the park restroom cleaning contract. 5e is state legislation on revoking city zoning authority and public participation in zoning decision decisions under the guise of affordable housing legislation. 5F is change orders for Windmir Park submitted by loafer. 5G is approves the city council meeting minutes. 5H accepts donation from Shaki youth basketball baseball association uh for benches. Thank you, Mr. Reynolds. Any discussion on the motion? Discussion? Seeing none, all in favor say I. I. Opposed. Motion passes. Item number six is public comment. If you're here for an item not on our agenda, now would be the time to come forward and address the city council. So, if you're here for an item not on the agenda, please step forward. And there's a table with a mic. Welcome. Love to hear from you. We try to keep this to five minutes or so if possible. Oh, we're David and Jeannie Gavin at 6134th Avenue East. So, we've come before you our elected officials um with some questions about jurisdiction uh concerning the workings of the Shakape Public Utilities and the Shakape Public Utilities Commission. So, we believe it's our right to have safe and reasonable access to electric and water utilities and it's our understanding that you are elected mayor and city council members uh appointed the public utilities commission to oversee Shakabe public utilities and therefore have some jurisdiction over how they operate within our community. So, we wanted to check with you first. Are we correct in that understanding? Mr. Thompson. Uh, m the city council appoints the members of the commission and it depends on the issue that's involved as to what the role of the city council is. I couldn't answer that just generically across the board. I I need to know what the issue is. It differs with electric. It differs with I'd have to know the issue. Okay. Sure. And the reason why we ask is because we don't want to waste the time. But um so we'll just assume that it's yes and we'll proceed and then we can kind of go from there. So um we are in disagreement with the policies and actions of the Shakabe public utilities and the commission um concerning the implementation of an advanced meter infrastructure or AMI in our community as it causes harm to biological systems. And the primary issue is whether in fact the AMI technology is harmful or not. And there's evidence on both sides of the issue. So it comes down to jurisdiction and who ultimately gets to decide the means by which utilities are metered at an individual citizen's home. So for comparison, other utilities, Excel, for example, they allow customers to keep their current analog meters for a small monthly fee. In fact, they even have in their policy they they know they um acknowledge that some people are concerned about the health effects and so they do offer a policy that allows people to do that. So the Shakabe public utilities continually cites FCC regulations which they seem to believe allows them to usurp the right of the right to govern our home personal health and well-being. And the FCC only gives guidelines they deem safe, but there's no mandate that we know of that forces the utility to implement the new technology or that dictates we must accept this new AMI technology. So, we've recently been through the utilities appeal process during which we presented scientific evidence and a medical necessity letter from our physician. And as of today, they've denied our request and created resolution number 2025-06 stating their findings of fact and determination regarding our appeal. And we believe this resolution contains misrepresentations of our communication with the utility and the commission as well as biased interpretation of information to suit their best interests, not the best interests of their customers. So, we've also asked numerous questions during the appeal process which were never answered. And the utility's next actions in our case if we do not comply with accepting this harmful technology will be to impose a $100 a month fine for three months and after that time penalize us by shutting off our electric and water service. So, we ask you to call for further investigation and if you deem appropriate that you would compel the utility and the commission to change their policy to first allow customers to keep their current analog meters to notify all current and future customers of this option available to them and to not penalize customers who have medical conditions which with any additional monthly fees or meter exchange fees. And then we also ask um that you call for the suspension of any penalty action toward us from Shakabe Public Utilities until you reach a conclusion in your investigation if you choose to do so. Thank you. Questions for the cler Mr. Whiting? Mr. Thompson, uh would appealing a decision from the public utilities be appropriate to come before this board? Mr. Mayor, did you say an an appeal a decision? I'd have to look. I don't know the answer to that off the top of my head whether because this deals with both electric and water. My I'm looking at the chakra utilities website and I think the advanced meter obtains both water and electric if I'm reading the website correctly. So, I'd need to look into it to see what jurisdiction the council has over this. Okay. Thank you. I mean, you can certainly have them come forformational purposes, but in order to know what the council's legal role on this, I need to do a little more examination on that. Yeah, I'd like to see that that gets done and gets reported back to us uh on this matter. Okay. Any other clarifying questions from council? It's my understanding that the utility in its original inception was uh created by voter referendum um as a separate entity of the city and 2022 there was a ballot question whether that would remain separate from the city and the voters said yes. So we would have to clarify the original creation I guess also um the quick clarification to your comment I guess so um because one thing that we weren't clear on is who actually owns it and that relates to jurisdiction um because like with Excel I mean Excel owns it you know that's a it's a different entities but it it sounds like The city and the public owns the Shakabe public utilities. I believe it would be the rate payers of the people that they serve, which is shock in some areas outside of our jurisdiction. But the but the customers, correct? But I'm not an expert on that. The uh public utilities director manager is here, Mr. Drent. If you want to answer any of these questions and clarify some of this for us, if you know the answers, that would be acceptable. I I would just remind councel that this particular portion of our is not meeting is not to make decisions and not to get involved in the particular issue. Y yeah I think I'll just clarify that that we did hear the concerns. We gave them three different options and they have gone through the appeal process. So, uh, our board has heard these the the discussion and has voted on it and our board has made a decision. So, I mean, I guess that's you that's where it's at. And the options were um the options were to allow us to have to install them uh install them on the outside of the house. Some people want their on their outside of their house or we also have a third option that they could trench in a new water uh a new electric line out across the alley and we would put a communication line in with it and then the meters would actually be across the alley. So that would be at their expense that they would have to run that wire. But we gave them three different options to alleviate having it in their home. Okay. And if could may I speak to that? Yes. Okay. So we did consider those options. Um but from all of the research that we've done and the medical professionals that we um choose to be under their authority to because they help us um it's those are not good options for us because it's the actual attachment of these meters and the way that they're designed that um attaches to our electrical system that causes problems as well as the radio frequency. So it's it's not even issue completely of where you put it. It's the fact that it's attached to our electrical system. Mr. Whiting, Mr. Dant, was there a discussion on uh having the opportunity to leave the existing analog meter in? Uh we we did have that discussion early on and um our commission um decided that we want we were no longer going to have meter readers or anybody to read meters and the process automatically gets put into our billing system. um we were not we we are not going to have we're eliminating those positions for efficiencies. Um so we'll have some meter techs that have programming meters and some other stuff but we're we're no longer going to have meter readers on our system. So uh early on that discussion was there and and we chose as a utility the board chose that we were not going to have meter readers anymore. question I have is if if the if neighbors on both sides were to want AMI meters, would that still affect you? Um, well, that's an interesting way you posed the question. Um, because no, as far as I'm concerned, no one was asked, uh, do you want these meters? And that was actually one of the questions we posed from the very beginning is help us understand you know you say that um customers are asking for this technology to be able to do such and such. So we asked you know could we see some of that you know I be interested in seeing that data. I'm a researcher by background. Um I'm very interested to see what kind of research was done and how the study was designed but I was never asked. In fact, when we first heard about the AMI technology through the I think we get the yearly report um that comes out and I saw a little thing that says they were looking into the technology. I called right away and and I voiced my concern. I think I spoke with Sharon uh Walsh um saying that I really hope that you're looking into the full spectrum of opinion on whether these are, you know, good because there's a lot of scientific data out there that's supporting that they're very harmful for people. Um, so and I I can tell you I know that there's a gen a portion of our society that the techsavvy group that that likes this technology because they can view all the data. So, um, Mr. White, so I guess the, so I'd like to hear back on what the appeals process for the public utilities are, and I'd also like to hear back whether or not our role, what our role would be, policy, the policy and the appeals process to that uh, their board's decision. And I also like to hear if there would be any liability in the future that could come back on the city if there was an issue with this technology found in 10 years. You know, we thought Teflon was great. Now it's banned. So, um, we we technology catches up and sometimes it's not always as great as we think. So, I would like to know what the clawback is to this city. Okay. Thompson. Thank member Whiting. Um to that end again we we are citizens of this community. We we love this community. So we are here to support in whatever you investigate. I mean we don't want to be a roadblock to this. to your point um there are some that are likening this uh issue to the tobacco industry and how it took 50 plus years for the government agencies to acknowledge that it was harm very harmful. Um but they're actually saying that this is even infinitely more problematic than tobacco. So it may take a while for it to reach culmination. Um but it will come out. I haven't done any research on it so I can't tell you. But Mr. Delaney, do you have any uh anything to add? Everything has already been said. I know we did offer options um including a Faraday cage wrapped around the water uh meter u run to the outside communications across the the um alley. that would have no again I empathize understand where your your your concerns that would have literally no RF um back into the home it's basically the communications will be outside the home and at the edge of the property so I that is what we did offer we also looked into um I guess readers but again that's would make our system inefficient and also we'd have to figure out a cost for that um right now I think there's out of 18,000 meters that have been installed. If I have the number correct, I think we've only had two so far that's gone through the appeals process. All righty. I I would just just comment that 85% of the electric meters in the United States already some sort of automatic meter reading system on them. Um many utilities are are like ours that that don't have opt- out programs. There are some that do. So, it we we looked at both on on both sides of that thing. Um we're really behind the game on this. This is 20ome year old technology already. Uh I know utilities in Minnesota that are on their third version of an AMI system. We're on our first one. So it it's it's I'm not saying that that that it's it's bulletproof data, but there is data out there that that shows that this is ongoing technology and it's not a new technology that that we're implementing. Is your is the study prior to deciding to go to AMI meters available to the public? Um I I mean I everything's available to the public I guess. I mean as far as a study I mean we we implemented the what we were going to do. Um I don't know if we had a specific um third party study done on AMI. We've been it's been in the works I've been at the utility for nine years almost 10 years and prior administrations we had a study done. Um it just took a long time to implement that. So that that that information is available, but that's that's a fairly old study that was done. Um the board decided to move forward on an AMI project on this. Is that available on the website or does somebody have to come to the office and ask specifically? I can look look for that. There was a like I say, we did not do a specific third party study recently, but this would be an older study that was done. Okay. All right. And RF signals, what is that comparable to? Who's the expert on that? Radio frequencies. Radio frequencies. In this case, you're talking I forgot 900. What's a cell phone? A cell phone is Oh my. Yeah, you're going to get RF from your cell phone. Pretty much anything. Your cell phone, the monitors. Um, in in this case, we're talking I think from FCC. It's 10 times less than what the FCC I guess limits for that frequency range. Um, again, I forgot don't have the got the numbers themselves, but it's only on a burst of maybe one less than a minute a day. And again, this will be the edge of the property. So your likely exposure is really limited. I mean there's again from just the information we do have a cell phone as RF. Yes, you would get the that's considered RF. So if we had a meter, I I would have brought my meter if I knew we're going to do this. Um you can literally get bursts all the time um from again cell phones. I think when I was at my home just kind of playing around with that, I could hear see the burst from here going down to my router, see the burst from there, go to my meter. Again, the meter's not transmitting that often. Uh, so you'd have to sit there and maybe monitor it until it does actually communicate from the water meter. But yeah, pretty much you're you're getting exposed to RF all the time. It's not really something you you can kind of avoid. Microwaves, everything. Yeah. So, I just have one last question for whoever the expert is. If you put an a Faraday thing around the meter, the meter can't put it out, but then how does the signal get to where it needs to go? That's the wire communication. So you have your water meter in the home. Wrap it with a Faraday cage or Faraday tape. Run that to the edge of your home or the edge of I get the water meter part because that's got a separate wire coming off the meter uses a battery. Correct. Sends a signal down the wire and then goes to a thing outside the house and that's the communication piece. So I'm talking about the power meter. Power meter. In that case, Mr. Drent, do you have an answer for that one? Sorry, I I'm a late that's fine. Um, so if if you put a a cage around the whole meter, obviously there would be some if there was uh a lot of times people put uh something against the wall and then the meters on it so it can't intrude in. It would only in only put the RF frequency out in order to do that. These meters do talk to each other from one talks to another to get the readings back to us. So if it can just go across and and get to another meter and then it can send it up um they can hop three and four times if they need to um in order to get to to the spot. So, um, a lot of times there's something behind the meter and then and then it it still the meter can put the signal out away from the home and there's and the only way to get around the the RF is to your option of moving it out to the alley. Yeah. And then then the RF is moved out to out to the to the edge of the property. Um, that is one of the options that that we gave. Um, and not just them to to somebody that has these concerns. We were we're giving them options uh to do that. So it's not not just one, it's to all of our customers if they want to do that. So the option was bury the the service to the pole, correct? Or or whatever transformer. Could you do this from a on a on the pole itself if it had a connected line to the house? As as far as an overhead service or what overhead service, could you put that still out on the pole to at least um we would say that you need to go on to an underground type service in order to do that. But otherwise, you'd have to go down and then back up. Um, we we we don't meter. We we're not electricians. We can do the high side stuff. We're not licensed electricians. Um, so we have to stay on the outside of the house. We can't go in somebody's house and do any electrical wiring. So, we have to stay on the outside of that. We can go to the top side of the meter. We can't go inside and and reduce somebody's panel. So, you'd actually have to put a new meter at the pole. Yeah. I think they can reuse the reuse the meter that's on the house a lot of times and they'll put it out there depending on the situation. So So the meter would have to move out there. Meter would have to move it. You'd have to have the box that it plugs into mounted somewhere. Okay. Can I just one more comment? I guess um when you're asking about the RF and whatever, I just want to clarify again. It's not just the radio frequency, it's also um it's a switch mode power supply. And when that's attached to the electrical system, it causes issues with that affect your home, your whole home. So, I understand if you're going to get some more information on this, but I guess I would ask that you look at some of the resources in depth that we provided in our January 6th presentation to the commission. Um, because if you rely on FCC, you're still going to get the same old old data. Um we have experts we've consulted with um specifically related to my health concerns and they have very specifically said do not have it attached to your home. So I guess this is the bottom line where we're asking we have a medical condition that our physician and actually two of them but we got a letter from one of them so far is saying do not have it attached to your home. it will cause harm to your current condition. So, I guess it's an authority issue and who is jurisdiction because um you know, I'm just going to stand I'm a citizen of the United States of America and I'm going to stand on uh you know, we have we have rights under the Constitution. I'm so glad you pledged allegiance because that you know it tells me that you honor this country and what we're founded on. So um it's a it's a difficult issue because I understand there has to be efficiencies and and you know cost that you have to um have to be concerned about but you know even in the mission of Shakipi safety's right up there and so I know you're probably talking about safety of the police having the police and the sheriff and that kind of thing but if you don't have your health you have nothing. So if this is problematic as some say it is, um you could wipe out a city, you know, in a generation if not less. So again, that sounds pretty pretty scary, but if you start doing some research um in what's current um I think you'll be a bit surprised if I may suggest uh legal counsel is going to look in this issue, see whether or not there is any authority of this body. Um obviously council members have the opportunity if they want to contact you if they if they need to. Uh ultimately it may be that this body has nothing that they can do. Mhm. And well, and that will be an answer that, you know, we're just needing an answer because, you know, if we can't get help here and again, we would we we don't hold you uh you know, we're not mad at you. You we just want an answer because then we need to go to the people who can help us, right? And does staff have your contact information if anybody from council wants to contact you? Yeah. Okay. Very good. Thank you for coming. Yeah. Thank you very much. Have a lead pipes in Rome. lead pipes in Rome. Pipes. Yeah. Is there anybody else that would like to talk to the city council on an item not on our agenda? Seeing none, we will move on to item number seven, business removed from the agenda. That was five I counselor Whiting. Yeah, thank you. Um gosh, I think it was just a couple weeks ago, maybe a month that I asked that these plats come off consent to be presented to us. Um sometimes I don't feel here heard, but consent is one vote, not three. So I would hope that these come off consent. So I'd like to first of all take a look at um I also asked at that time that we have a better overview of where this is placed in our community. And uh the best one I found. Should we have staff do a basic presentation? Yeah, why don't we do that? But I want to go to the I'll find that page when we get to it. Why don't we start with the presentation? Mr. Kursky, if you want to go over the basics of the uh plat. Yes sir, Mr. May Council. So this is the final plat of Pelamino Trail. PY Homeless Minnesota applicant and property owner have made their application for the final plat. subject properties located at 16th and 17th Avenue west of Windimmer Way and south of Highway 169. The applicant has proposed a plat that would consist of 83 single family lots on 31.77 acres. The net area of 20.55 acres with the city owning the adjacent 23.6 acre open space parcel. The proposed lots would primarily be accessible from 17th Avenue. Some of the feature of this project include lots that will have exceptional views to the north and a trail proposed to run along the northerly area of the plat adjacent to the bluff forming the part of the greater greenway plan for this area of the community. So this is the get this to work subject area of the plat if you remember um this was formerly owned by Randy Kubish um he eventually sold it to PY. This is 17th Avenue that will come through here. This is the property we bought from the Ty family probably four or five years ago. Um the Ty Rock I believe is over here. You'll see they here's the current city trail right here. They will be building a trail that runs across the back of these properties. Then will connect to the property that was approved um at the last council meeting um as part of Bluffview. So the city owns this 20 some odd acre parcel already right here. Mr. Mr. Kursky. Yes, sir. Back up, please. There you go. The uh property directly to the west we just approved. Correct. Correct. At uh two meetings ago, I think it was. Mhm. And and since 17th Avenue is required to be extended along with the services of service uh sewer, water, electric um and streets, trails um it's difficult to do. I mean, it's always good to have these in order so that the infrastructure is being done in an orderly fashion and not hopscotching. We discussed this parcel being the lynch pin to that part parcel at the time and and and the second question would be since this is a final plat is is it consistent with the preliminary mayor and council? Correct. There's been no changes um since the preliminary plat and as you are correct the um sewer and water are in Tamarack. So they'll be pulling those through and connecting it to the property next door. If you remember that final plat for the bluff project was conditional on this project final platting and then pulling those utilities through. They have already um have their grading permit and if the weather will ever hold they'll start doing the grading and start pulling those utilities through. And they're also going to extend 17th Avenue through their property and then the process right now of grading that out. Did Did we see the preliminary plat or was it a um Yes. Yes, you did, Mayor. Okay. Y sometimes they're administrative because they're meeting all the basic zoning requirements in the proper zoning. Mr. Whiting. Uh yeah. Thank you. So, if you you talked about the trail and I'm trying to see if there's any document showing that trail in here, mayor and council, the city owns this parcel right here and we own this parcel. The existing trail kind of dead ends here. So, now we'll pick up and it runs kind of following this purple line and then comes down and connects to this parcel over here. So, this is the flat area. We actually walked this um about a week or two ago to go through. There are some significant trees in here that'll be preserved. Um and then the city, as I said, owns all of the bluff area. So, we wanted to make sure the trail u meandered through the large oak trees that are up here. Well, again, I'm going to bring up the concern about uh there's several of these uh lots listed as one, two, and three, but I'm looking at the top of this map as one, two, three. We'll call throw four in there too along the B bluff line again. Um there's going to be a trail down there and we've talked about the I appreciate the open space on the street so we have some of that view. I want to make sure that trails in there before those houses are. So mayor and council there is as part of the development agreement an easement and so that trail is actually in these two homes backyards to keep them from going into our bluff area. So because of the grade right here, the trail will actually be in the back end of their property. And if it's not there before, we've seen this before when they So we we have spoken with all of these developers and with um the engineering department. We're going to be placing signs along these property lines telling them that this is city-owned property and conservation area on all all of these properties along here so that we don't end up with someone shed back here and this person builds a playground back here so people realize this is public property. So when can we anticipate that trail going in at least past those houses so at least and maybe the the other parcel one on the other end since those are the folks that come down here and say we don't want a trail in our backyard. Nobody told us anything. Heard it before. Yep. So, as part of the this development, they're they're actually building the trail as part of the development. And originally, this u when they did the preliminary plat, their thought was this would be done in two phases. They've made a corporate decision to do this all at once. So, all the grading for us is being done through here. We are going to hire separately. Um they're using a tree removal contractor here. There's a lot of and I can't remember the name of the bush, but it'll rip your leg off that's kind of grown in No, it's worse than buckthorn. Oh, gooseberry's probably goose. I think it is. It's thorny gooseberry, I believe. They're going to come through here and cut some of that down so that when people are on the trail, they're not walking into that area and getting injured. So, they're going to clear the flat area of the bluff. Um, gooseberries are great wild plants that you can make jelly out of and uh they hold the terrain in. So, Yep. So, that's one of the concerns we have. So, they're going to cut the ones out for us that are right along the trail so people walking on the trail with their dog or whatever don't end up getting injured. Mr. Kursky, will uh will a trail be a trail easement or a conservation easement? Mayor and Council, the trail will be a trail easement. Okay. And it's mostly on our property. So, the only places that it impacts are these two homes. The rest of this is all city property. So, there will be no easement because it'll be on our property. And I'm I'm trying to think if it's beneficial to have have it on the actual land title of the house that if if it's on their property. Yeah. Mayor and council, we had a long discussion with the developer. As you can see, the bluff starts right here. So, in order to make this trail um grades, we needed to put it in the back of these houses. So, they've agreed to that as part of this. And these owners will know that there's a trail in the back of their It'll be on the deed. Yep. Okay. And and it pardon me. Buyer be aware. You should probably read the deed, right? That recently, too. I I know, but I mean, if if it's on the deed before they purchase it and it says it's going to be there, you know, it's pretty hard to come back later and say, "I didn't know that." So, Mayor Council, they're going to be grading out that trail as part of their overall mass grading. So, that trail will be asphalt and will connect to the existing asphalt trail that's right over here. So it'll be the first kind of in the eight years I've been here kind of the first connection now they'll be making through this and they're going to be taking some of the dirt if you remember from this project to level this side out. So as soon as they get going over here, that trail will continue. And then I suppose last last question as I say I same as I asked on the the one we did two two meetings ago to the west since the water flows downhill from this bluff line to to the back of these houses in this trail. Uh catching that storm water is going to be critical. So, mayor, council, you can see right here there is a natural ravine that the city owns that cuts through right here. And we're working with engineering on how this trail is going to cross that. But that ravine goes all the way down to 169 that goes into some pipes that go under 169, eventually end up in the Virland Greenway waterway. So, it's a pretty complicated water. 100year flood. 100year flood. Yes, it connects to though. Questions on this side? Yeah, I was just asking about the trail. That trail runs west, but where's it where's it ultimately connect to? I know we're the bluff. It kind of runs along the bluff and then that's that next development we're talking. Yep. So, mayor and council, um the next development will continue that trail. And then we Oh, Brickyard Road have on the city on the planning commission Thursday annexing in the last vacant property and the three houses that are down there because eventually the sewer and the trail need to go through that area because it then will connect further down into Dr. Horton's property. Um and working with the city engineer and the city administrator, we'll be drilling that sewer on one of those houses so we don't disturb the forest that they have. So eventually that trail will kind of meander through a forest. Thank you. Will it eventually connect with the old brickyard? Mayor and council, no, because um that's a pretty narrow road with some steep slopes on it. It turns at the Mullenhard property and then goes south, crosses, and we're working with Scott County on whether that'll be at grade or an undercrossing. And then it goes into the last property on Deer Horton's site. Okay. To a park. Just one final observation or question. You know, I haven't seen the pieshaped lots like that. If you can go back to that last slide, it showed it a little better. Um, any concerns there? uh from a property ownership standpoint or from the city to have pies-shaped lots like that. This this one right here, council member. Yep. Yeah, we have them in other places in the city. I mean, it you have to be friends with your neighbor basically. Um so when you mow, you mow together, but I I will say that I just saw this. So this is a good diagram to show you where that trail is. So here's the existing end of that asphalt trail. So it'll be paved through here. comes in and you can see it goes right through the backyards of these two homes and then comes along the street and there's a connection to the sidewalk here. So people in this neighborhood can take that sidewalk and connect right to the trail and then go down for instance to the new gas station or whatever they need to to pick up a loaf of bread or it's a pretty extensive this neighborhood is blessed to have an extensive trail system. Any other questions of staff, Mr. Whitey? Uh, no. Thank you for bringing that up. I think it's great to have these out in the public again. I know the planning commission gets them, but the, uh, city council meeting, uh, people like to watch that, too. And I think it's important we have some of these discussions. So, with that, I'll make a motion to approve resolution R 2025 TAC 45, a resolution approving the final plat plat of Palamino Trail. Is there a second to the motion? I'll second it. Councelor Contrarus. Discussion on the motion. Good. Discussion on the motion. And uh either the concerns are already covered or you'll take them back to engineering and make sure they're covered for council. Yes, sir. All right. No, no other discussion. All in favor say I. I. Opposed. Motion passes. Thank you, Mr. Kursky. Item number eight is a motion to recess to the economic development authority meeting. I'll make a go ahead. No, go ahead. You start. I'll make a motion to recess with economic development authority meeting and a seconded by councelor Contrarus. Motion by Mr. Delaney. Discussion on the motion. Seeing none, all in favor say I. I. Opposed. Motion passes. We are in recess to economic development. Mr. President, I'll call to order the Tuesday, April 1st meeting of the Shaki Economic Development Authority meeting. Um, Mr. Parsons, uh, please make note of the role. Uh, with that, we'll move on to item two, approval of the agenda. Is there any other items? Uh, any questions about the agenda? No questions. Look for a motion to approve. Make a motion to approve the agenda. Second motion and second. Uh any discussion? Discussion. Discussion. All in favor say I. I. Opposed. Uh motion goes approved. Uh unanimously. Item three, consent business. Uh approve of the EDA minutes is on the consent business. I Mr. President. Mr. President, I have one quick question on the bills. There's two on yet, but we can Well, it's part of the consent. Is it not? Okay, we can do that. Sure. Yeah. Okay. Um my only question was there's two on the same day for uh momentum strategies, two separate billings. So, so mayor and council, one is their retainer and the other is their out-of- pocket expenses. Okay. All right. That answers that. All right. With that, uh I'll look First for a motion for the approval of the minutes and we'll include the EDA bill list if there's no other questions. I'll make a motion to approve the um the consent business including the EDA minutes. Second. Have a motion in a second. Any other discussion? Discussion. Discussion. That was actually on bill list. Well, we'll throw it together. Bill minutes. Yeah. Well, that's what I was saying. We're going to do the minutes first. You said it was under consent. So, I I approved of that. Any other concerns? Um, we have a motion and a second on the table. All those in favor say I. I. That is the approval of the minutes and the bill list. All right. We have an update 4B on our entrepreneurial efforts. Mr. Kursky, chair and board members. So, it's um this is kind of where I noticed the one last year was uh the first meeting in April. So, here we are again just by coincidence. We're on the same um first meeting. This will be kind of an update on our entrepreneur program and also on a development update. So, first thing I want to say is this program's uh funded from our fees that come from Shak Public Utilities. Um they've been a great partner. They have been enormously responsive on supporting us on projects and as um Mr. Dant likes to say, they always try to figure out a way to make projects happen. So, it's been a pleasure working with them. Um they've helped some of our entrepreneurs. They've helped us on some projects that um there's a lot of activity going on right now nationwide and Minnesota is getting some looks for a couple of big projects. We happen to have a couple big sites and so he's been doing yman service for the community figuring out a way to try and make some of these happen and make us competitive. So again uh foundry fueling innovation forging growth. Um we were at the state capital today and represent Tapki and Big Bird wanted to know kind of what the split out was from our companies. So here it is. So we cover it basically from Apple Valley to Waconia. There are nine companies that are participating in the city of Shakipi, but you can see we're we're pretty uh wide group of people. Um the spokesman for Foundry that spoke today at the state capital said that the reason why this is is we're unlike any other group in the state. We really attract a lot of people that are more into hard tech. So technology that you can touch and feel versus an app on your phone and it's a much more welcoming group. Um we're split right now. Um if you remember we started this three or four years ago. I think we had four members. We're at 35 as of today. I sent the list. that was attached in your packet. Um, and it's split about 50/50, female founders and male founders, which is pretty remarkable in this short period of time. Clearly, there's some value being added as it's growing. People want to be involved. So, yep. So, these were the companies you looked at last year. Um, very diverse group. Um, we've added four more companies recently. So, Bryant Williams, you'll see in a second, he is running a company called Hardcore Peanut Butter. Um, so their goal in 2027, they're working with a lab out of Israel that they will have a peanut butter that you'll be able to eat next to somebody who has a peanut allergy. Um, today you cannot do that. It can't even be in the house. Um, but they've been working pretty strongly. His hardcore peanut butter is in stores right now. They're in a number of markets in this market. Um they're currently sold out. They have been so successful their local um c-acker could not handle the demand and they've had to find a new c-acker. Another new company is Heart Glass. Uh Demi George from Adina. They um make women's clothing particularly swimsuits um for actually to fit a woman's body. So they use a lot of new technology as far as production and scanning. Um, O Edward um is a founder of NOL uh which is a um new swaddling product that's just going to be released um that he has patents on. And then another person is Michaela Mancini. She's a really interesting story. She's an industrial designer. Um she actually invented a product, kind of put it away. It was up on the internet and a company reached out to her and said, "Oh, where can we buy these?" And she said, "Well, it was just an idea." And they said, "Well, you should probably follow through with her your idea." She's actually met with four of our uh foundry members that are more advanced than her and they've been giving her help on both intellectual property protection but also on manufacturing. So So that one's a single person. How how big are some of these uh companies growing our our employee base? So Remastered Sleep I think's four or five people right now. Um Seven Minute Security is one person. Um Julio's probably six or seven people. Well, Wolf Tooth is up to 70 people. Steelhead Outdoors actually is a good story. The two founders, you know, started that company, a garage. They are actually located in a building in Shakipi. One of the founders left his other job. He works there full-time and then they have three or four production people. So, he's kind of in it to win it. Written Hugs Design is one person, but they employ probably 20 or 30 people outside of her business that do the printing and production. Um, so and they're growing. Iron Concert Media, who was just kind of an idea three or four years ago, they're booming and he's staff, he's a Shakipi company, he's staffed up and um, if any of you know what the sphere is like, it's kind of a immersive entertainment experience. They have the technology for that where you don't need a sphere. So, they've been shipping it out all over the US. So, it's a a lot of these companies have really kind of blossomed over the past three or four years. Thanks. Especially this one. So, Mommy Solutions, um, they not only were the healthcare Minnesota startup of the year, but they also won the Min Minnesota Cup. So, layman, you had a question. Mr. President, I had a question on the last slide with the four businesses. Are them in Shakape or are they where are they located? So, Bryant I believe is in Minneapolis. Demi George is in Adina. I'm not sure where um OG is and Michaela is in Jordan. Okay. Same a Plymouth company. Um they were the healthcare Minnesota startup of the year. Um they also won the Minnesota Cup which about 1500 companies participate in that. It's a rigorous month-long process. So they are kind of on a winning streak. Um they've also gotten a substantial investment. So, um, some pretty cool technology you'll be reading about. And speaking of cool technology, Pela Health, um, they just raised $500,000 from one of the companies that, um, came and kind of pitched their services to the group. um they're in the medical device field kind of um the sexual wellness area and it's a bleeding edge company. They've gotten a huge amount of press in the past two weeks because it's a problem no one's really been working on and so they've gotten attracted a lot of capital and interest. Speaking of capital and interest, so um this is Steelhead Outdoors. He was one of our original companies. Um they're actually made in Shakapei. He lives in Shakapei. Um he's on the board of adviserss. Um they were able to get their product into Shields. This is their small safe. Um retails for $215 and it's been pretty successful and they're expecting that Shield will probably roll this out to all of their stores in the next six months. That's why they're currently in a space and they've been looking for new space because all these companies is he's he actually spoke today that was him with representative Tapki today at the capital speaking in the hub since most of our companies are in the manufacturing space when they scale they need space right away and so they're uh negotiating for some potential larger space in Shakipi because these smaller safes there's a higher demand for them versus their larger safes. So they need more production space and they're 100% made in the USA. So to give you an idea, the typical lock on one of these like the one next to it that should remain nameless probably costs them 90 cents or a dollar. Their locks that they use cost $15. So much higher quality. So um this is no ley so future swaddling. So he has a patent on this a patent pending um and he's about to go into production. That was one of our new companies. And here, people want to know what happens at our meetings. You'll notice the doors are closed. So, the hardcore peanut butter guy came to the foundry and talked about his business and some of his challenges and how his formulas come about and what some of the upcoming flavors are and what he kind of the headwinds he's facing. And so it's good to get kind of younger entrepreneurs and some of our more seasoned entrepreneurs give him pretty honest feedback on what he needs to do. So this was his uh he just joined the group a couple months ago. So this was his kind of first exposure explaining his company. You really can't Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, go ahead. You really can't lose with cookies and cream and chocolate chips in my world. Is this the peanut butter that you can uh be around if you have a peanut allergy? It it will be. They um they're expecting to launch that I think in 2027. Um but right now their markets for kind of the hardcore exercise people so it gives you that boost after workout. Um it's got blueberries in it and some other natural products. And they were looking at potential line extensions here to get them through the hump till they can get the peanut allergy um peanut butter out on the market. The single serve sachets. All right. Thank you. So this is one of our original four founders. Um Alan Tolkus. Um you can see he's in a wheelchair. He this will be his um fourth company that he's launched. So he presented a closed door meeting for about an hour kind of the history of when he got in a wheelchair, what happened to him, his first three companies, where he failed, and then this company here. Um so this is about ready to go to market. So this is a exercise machine that allows people in a wheelchair to walk because exercising your extremities is critical for other organ survival. So your kidneys, your bowels, other things. If you're able to walk and you're spending most of your time in a wheelchair, it helps those organs function. So he has all the patents on this and he's about ready to go to production. So people talk about overnight success. He's been working on this product for about 10 years. So he's he personally has invested several million dollars in the product and again the hub this is what we talked with um the capital investment committee today and Senator Fu. So this is we've been building on the hub over the past couple of years and bringing other partners in. So new people kind of here are the Shakabe Chamber, the CDA Center for Entrepreneurship and then Beta. So Beta Minnesota um they are the state accelerator. So they accelerate the success of Minnesota startup founders. So they are a statewide organization. They're based out of Minneapolis. Um they are growing leaps and bounds. So they um would like to partner with us. And so this will give you an idea of their success. So they've had 264 startups. They've raised $633 million. And currently there's 2,286 companies out of Beta. So um the founder, the current executive director of Beta said people in Minneapolis are like now why are you going to shakip and he's like you should see what's happening in Shakipi. He said you guys are all sitting working on your apps and stuff but they're working on real products. They're going to have a huge impact on people. So I think it's a big step forward for the community and here's what their partnership's going to consist of. Um they're going to work with they have a pretty big program with pitch workshops um beta Tuesdays. They have their own accelerator where some of our companies can get assistance and then they're going to provide us access to the twin twin cities startup weekend which will be in October this year. And already this was their um beta showcase for all the companies that they feel are moving forward. JP Morgan is the main sponsor with Northeast Bank. They made the city one of the sponsors. Um this event attracted about 250 people. Christy Kemck, one of our early um success stories um gave her pitch and in the meantime she also wrote a book. So she's been pretty busy. This book will be published I think next uh couple of weeks. Um but she was wellreceived there. Um I think one of our companies says she'll be our first hundred million dollar company. She's also been on the Block Box X show which she was invited to. They interviewed something like 50,000 entrepreneurs in the country. She made the cut. That's a television show that's on Amazon. So, she didn't win, but she got a lot out of it, a lot of um support. Again, TAP 2025 dinner will be at the landing on September 12th for um all the people that came last year and some more. We moved it a little later at the request of some of the breweries to 100 p.m. instead of noon. And we already have, which is exactly the same numbers we had last year, 24 breweries have already committed, all Minnesota breweries. And then to switch a little bit, so um we've been working with uh Live Nation and Canterbury kind of on the the next step at Canterbury. I'm going to hold you off a second on this one. Is there any questions about the hub? And yeah, go ahead. Just not on exactly on the hub, but just on the comment that you made that um this um the event, right, the TAP 2025 the Well, that was actually the TAP 2025. No, it was just the event scored a 4.9 out of five from the attendees. That was really good. So, great work. I I just wanted to just great work on that. Yeah, Commissioner Lman, Mr. President, I just wanted to make sure that the hub is not just for entrepreneurs, but that we're helping to capture individuals that are looking, you know, what what are we going to do, what their natural talents are, what their uh des inner desires are and and steer them in that direction, whether it's, you know, into the trade school or into a a college or or, you know, helping them design whatever widget they want to make. So, I I want us to be have that diversity in there. Um, and I I just didn't see it listed in here. Well, you you it's kind of a broad open c canvas now and and the advanced manufacturing training, you know, you build the space and they can come and use it or uh for time angel investors groups. These are all kind of um opportunities I think more and then we have some of the solid backers now. there's a serious shortage uh into the future for the trades and if without the trades a lot of these things disappear aren't successful. Yep. Well, sure. And I I I envision some uh training be involved with using some of this space, this uh co-working space and maker space. I think that's kind of the opportunity. Well, I I I I don't know that that the space is the issue. I I think having the the direction or the partnership I guess it would be with you know here you've got a state university you know I think what's missing here is a is a partner in the uh uh vocational area so chair and member board members so um Corey touched on this today at his testimony at the state capital so Minnesota state has a relationship with all the technical schools by law So, Henipin Techch, Dakota, and there's one other um the one that's in Bloomington, Normanddale. Normanddale. Normale. Normanddale. Thank you. So, they have a open agreement with all of them and actually run some programs in those various schools. So, as they see demand, for instance, Corey mentioned today that you know working with metal is a really important part of their business and the technology how it goes together. Minnesota State will then reach out to one of those technical schools and say, "Look, we've identified this gap. That's why we have high bay space because they don't have that at Normanddale or at Henipin Tech. So highbay space you can do big sheets of metal and other things. That training would occur here. And then the reason why the chamber is going to be one of the tenants of the hub is they kind of shift their mode towards uh workforce development. And so a lot of their workforce development programs will be held at the hub. And those are programs funded by the state for very specific trades um in support of the companies in the area. So students that will come to the hub will have a job that will be in Shakipi or Scott County that they'll go to and then come back for additional training here. Any other questions on that? All right. Thank you. Yes, this would be fun. So, we've been working uh with Live Nation and Canterbury on not only the amphitheater, but also the area to the south, which we're kind of calling the southeast village. You see we have the southwest kind of development where um Omry is and um the new office building that's under construction and some of the restaurants. So, what happens to the area to the south of the amphitheater? So, we had some sketches done up working with Canterbury on what the potential could be. That really large parking lot in the back here, if I can get this to work, this will actually be owned by the EDA. This is the lot that, if you remember from our development agreement, will be exclusively used by the amphitheater and amphitheater days, but the other 320 days a year, it's to serve this project right here. So, we have been working with Canterbury and they've been soliciting proposals to do kind of a joint agreement where we would share 5050 and the cost to do a full market feasibility analysis and go out and get these tenants like the hotel. This is proposed to be potentially another major new tomarket entertainment user, some housing and some um additional retail and restaurants, but this is a pretty large investment and so we need to get some backup for it. But this is kind of the flavor that we're looking at to create. So more urban streetscape with streetscape with outdoor dining near the amphitheater. And then again um a new hotel first to market here that would support not only Amphitheater with the 600,000 people they're projecting in the first year but also some of our new companies like um GN RSound who's um going to be moving their corp North American corporate headquarters here this fall. That building is currently under construction that you all toured. So, right now it looks like they've gotten probably half a dozen or more proposals back from different firms around the country and some local firms. We'll be back to you probably in a month or so with kind of a split on what that proposal would be. The funding for that proposal would come out of the Canterbury administrative dollars that we've been collecting um out of that tiff that we have to use to support things like this. So, I went to Culver's the other day uh this weekend and sat and looked at that corner and said, "What could we put on that corner or what would happen on that corner?" Because we don't get to put it on there, but this is this is more than I I dreamt of. But, Mr. Layman, Mr. President, the question I would have is uh if if state legislation passes for no minimum parking, would that have any impact on the plan we're looking at or could it have an impact? I I know it was steered toward residential. I I don't know the finer details, nor do you is they're not done with their session. Chair and and board members, I don't think that'll have any impact on this. This is, you know, a hotel which people are going to drive to and the amphitheater. You know, we're hoping that not everybody drives to We have an agreement with MVTA. Um we're working with the new um the new general manager for the amphitheater will be moving her from Chicago at the end of the summer. And so we'll be working with him over the winter on all the different assets because we Mr. Reynolds and I and some other staff met with the Live Nation staff and asked the blunt question of you know what if you have 10 or 12 huge events here? Do we have enough parking? And they said no. we're going to have to rely on MVTA, Southwest Transit, um, to partner with them to get people to remote lots because you don't want people sitting here for hours. You want them in and out of here in under an hour. And I think the police chief is pretty confident with their experience. As you are aware, we'll be bringing forward an agreement where Live Nation will be having a public safety fee on the tickets that will basically cover the cost of the security at the facility, but also um all the traffic details that are necessary. So, we won't be billing them on a regular basis. It'll come as one check back to us from ticket sales. So, on a big night right now, the police chief's projecting that we'll need 15 officers for an event. So, it'll be a a lot of traffic that will need to be well controlled. Mr. Kursky, there was a lot of uh work with the Renaissance Festival and in managing off-site parking. Is there going to be a lot of that type of preliminary work with ticketing so that people know where they can park up front? Chair and board members. Yes. So, Live Nation, you know, is pretty sophisticated on their ticketing because they own ticket masters. So, they will not only connect the ticket, but they'll also connect through their ticket master app where you're parking. So, um it's going to be a pretty sophisticated operation. They actually have with all the Canterbury lots that they have contracts with a substantial amount of parking except when Canterbury has events. When that happens, they'll have to move kind of that off-site parking similar to Renaissance Festival. So they'll be in a event management plan that'll be brought to you for final approval in the next few months that Live Nation's been working on. So contracting to have this uh new uh the corner, I guess we'll call it. Uh it's 28 acres, sir. 28 acres. It's a big corner. Um where what's the what's the good points on it? What's the bad points? And who are out there that could work with us on this? So, chair and board members. So, HRNA, who worked on the comp plan, they're they did um similar projects nationwide. They're probably the largest one. And there's three or four smaller firms that have broken off from HR&A and other firms that have given proposals to Canterbury, which once we get everything packaged up, we'll bring to you. And then um they've spoken with um one of the things that's all of the feasibility firms said you need to develop a brand for this because people got to know they're going somewhere. You just can't say we're going to the amphitheater whatever is next to it. So one of the components will be developing whenever you come up with what the mixture is what that brand's going to be. So this gets called something because one of the issues we have is everybody calls this Canterbury Park. It has really nothing to do with Canterbury Park. This is a standalone facility. And I think Live Nations kind of faced that. Everyone thinks it's owned by Canterbury and Canterbury has no interest in the amphitheater. Oh, just that they're there. Uh, any other questions about this development? Nothing. So, they'll come in and they'll put the branding together. They'll And you said they'll put this the plan together. Will they'll go out and actually uh try and locate these uh partners? Chair and board members will be working jointly. In fact, I've been working on the hotel that's kind of on the right there. We've talked to a couple partners and of course they want to know what the demand is and um a couple of them have said, you know, you've got a lot of kind of low-end hotels. We don't have any really kind of finer end hotels. So, working uh we did a survey of our local employers and between GN and our local employers, there's a potential for 4,000 kind of better nights beyond the amphitheater. Um, so that's not a lot of nights, but it's kind of a guarantee you're going to get some activity here for sure. Most of those people right now have told us they're going to Bloomington. So, we want to take that traffic away from Bloomington and keep them in Shaki. Any discussion on ballroom space in this hotel and kind of convention space? Yep. Um, boarding and board members and chair, u, one of the things that came out from the survey is that people want to have, um, a shuttle to the airport from the hotel. That was number one. Number two was meeting space and number three was the ability to work with Canterbury when they have say a thousand person event to use Canterbury's facility and have it somehow you know shuttle connected to this hotel because there's no need to build kind of a big space because they have one they can decorate which is way underutilized. Um so Canterbury is talking about how they refresh that make it more marketable. Um there's a lot of groups. Um Tim Zunkcker from the Convention of Visitors Bureau said there's lots of groups that look right now and kind of go, "All right, we can make this facility work, but where are they going to stay?" I think with having uh several hundred rooms on property here would help considerably. Good point. Any other comments? Go ahead. Well, then I think in the once they start molding this and figuring out what your targeted marketing uh drive is, you're going to be able to fill in some of the smaller uses that enhance the bigger uses for a fuller uh experience. You get some of those anchors in there and the rest follow. Well, and you know, you're you're looking at what market are you really going after? If you have a high-end hotel, you know, that's got a specific market, uh, and what, you know, what do you what what do you want to enhance that with? And then you have other markets already on site. So, how do you join them together? And that's where, you know, some of these consulting firms that have done done this all over the world have the knowledge to figure out how to connect things together so that they they flow and and capture more than just a small market, but a larger market of different pieces tap into that. You know what I'm saying? I mean, chair and board members, I mean, Mr. Reynolds always says we're the entertainment destination. We want to become the entertainment destination between the amphitheater and some of the other ideas that have been tossed around here. This really could become a major destination. Any other questions before was that move on? Okay. Any other questions? Mr. Any thoughts? What's the first concert? That's what I hear a lot. Do we know? Um sir, um there are NDAs that Live Nation has. I haven't signed anything yet. So, all right. Thank you for that. That's all I'm going to say. Thank you. All right. Without objection, we'll adjourn to May 20 May 6th, 2025 at 7 p.m. We stand adjourned. Do we need a motion for that? Uh, without objection. Are you going to object? No. So, we don't need a motion. I'm going to say no. We're Are we legal? Okay. Yeah. So number nine will reconvene the city council. Item 10, leazison reports. Councelor Contrarus. Thank you, mayor. Um where are my notes? I have it here. Well, I don't actually have a liaison report, but I did attend the Minnesota National um is a Latino Peace Officers Association where I did represent the city uh as a panelist for the 2025 women's history month along with four other panelists where we shared pretty much just personal stories and try to inspire women to step up into these leadership roles. That's what I did. Congratulations. Yeah. Good. Very cool, Mr. Whiting. Thank you. um MVTA met um continued discussions about uh the Suburban Transit Association and also uh opportunity um we're going to be having it hopefully on consent in the next meeting. Uh we're uh bringing Dakota County back on the board. So that just changes the group. Uh this we have to sign the papers again adding Dakota County to our board. It doesn't change anything else just that we're allowing a a new member. They were on before for whatever reason they dropped off MVTA. Now they're asking to come back on and we're welcoming them. What do they have for provider? They have MBTA. The county was they had a little bit of uh Metro Transit. So they were worried that they were going to get into some battle back and forth I think was the concern at the time. But um that concern is no longer there. And so they they still have both providers. Yeah. In a portion of the the area. Yep. But they, you know, they want to have a say on what's going on with transit in their community. Mr. Delaney, not a whole lot going to 169 and uh commission our coalition and SP, we have our meeting coming up next month. But as far as MVTA, they did uh meet with Benedicting residents to tell them more about the microtransit, which is a really great um way to get around. does offer a lot more benefits versus what we some things we do currently have and also solves some of the problems they were um experiencing. I'd like to just thank Jason De Mo, Joya Stson and Anna Mullen for putting that on. Also going to go back over and show them how to get the apps load on their phone and use which is a great customer service. Um also had opportunity to be a judge at the 88th annual science fair uh that happened last last Friday. That was a that's always a great experience. Uh at that age I was not getting patents and I e papers but there are some kids that had patents and I e papers and that was just amazing. Uh we also attended the there was a community if the mayor was also there and I think one of our planning commissioners some other um community partners and still that community center. I like to thank community center they helped get that set up and that was really really good time and a lot of good uh community outreach there. I something to add. You mentioned microransit and part of the discussion was uh now with uh state employees in St. Paul coming back online the the rapid service down the to downtowns which was you know dropped off during COVID. If that gets back up and rolling more that's going to affect microtransit. There's only so many dollars in the pot. Right now we're pushing it towards microtransit if some of that uh more uh downtown ridership picks up. We're going to have to adjust. Okay. Very good. A lot of information there. My layers on reports. We all saw in the news that uh Walmart is gearing up for $350 billion worth of improvements in their uh business model. Part of that is coming to Shaki. Um they're going to be doing some upgrades to the Shakpi store and uh making some various changes out there. Uh met with the new store manager. He's got 31 years of experience with the company. Mr. Norquist was his name. Um pretty decent vision. I was uh pretty positive talking to him about what he sees for Shaki location. So, we'll see how that pans out for them in the future and we wish them the best of luck. Obviously, um most of council and and our administrative staff attended in the mindbending escape project with council. Uh councelor Delaney, you don't know what you missed. We got out. We we won. We bro we broke records. Absolutely broke records. We were we were awesome. All of us, including staff. So, that was a good time had by all. Um you want to give a little feedback? So, we had a little offsite uh council uh at our uh local escape room and uh uh we met offsite council. We had off-site council group session, I guess. Kind of a fun fundraiser. It was a it was a brain bender that there was no action taken. Yeah. No action taken and and and it and it was uh noticed as required. So, it was a good uh it was a good mindbending operation. keeps everybody sharp, I guess. Um, it was it was fun. It was a blast, actually. So, anybody out there that uh wants to look for something entertaining other than uh the norms, try the escape room up at West End Mall. It's It's a blast. Um, you're going to have to do some thinking. It's hard, but it's fun. Um, you agree? Let's see what else do we have. I just wanted to hit on uh April 26th shock cleanup day public works uh 4th Avenue 7:30 start get in line early get in line early I think it's 7:30 to is 11 or something like that um also the shockby 11:30 11:30 Mr. Reynolds and I have in our meetings with the county prior lake and middlewalk sue community that we have quarterly uh you know we all know they're going to shut down the ORF in shockp for certain aspects of what it's being used for. They may use it for some other aspects. Uh they're building a huge new state-of-the-art environmentally friendly facility on 41 just over the tracks going toward Chaza on the west side. Um, you know, we've been working through what happens to the shockp citizens with their leaves and their brush or whatever from their properties. Um, and they've they've put out that they're going to allow uh free drop off service for Shakp residents during regular business hours for their yard uh you know, leaves and stuff like that. Um, probably going to need your ID. Um, more information will be coming forward. I'm really happy that we something got worked out there. Um, it was May and October. For May and October. May and October. Correct. So, it's not fulltime and I'm sure they're going to put out some information that'll be shared on our website and their website and everything else. So, this is just fresh fresh news. Um, welcome news and you know, we've been talking about it for quite a while how that transition is going to take place. So once again, a a good partnership with the Shaki Metawakans Sue community and stuff. So So are we taking that at cleanup day too? The the yard waste? Yes. Okay. So we take then but if you miss cleanup day, you can take it out there in May. May and and October. Yep. So yep. October I'm going to guess will be leave time. Um, I'm not sure what May is, but stuff that's the rest of the stuff you've collected up. Although I suppose, you know, I remember I used to put leaves around mom's house and May would be the time to take them out. So, all right. Um, that's my report. Item 10A, city bill list. Mayor, if I may. Yes, sir. I'm sorry. Um, I just wanted to remind everyone if you haven't heard, we have a new sand venture coming up. Pretty exciting. been totally revamped and renovated. And if you're interested, on Friday, April 25th, we will be having our one-day sale on season passes and punch cards where they're 25% off. And rumor has it that at 9:00 a.m. Shockpy's favorite pirate will be there to read stories to children. So, I'm I'm encouraging everybody to come out. Uh he also has a big chest of gold that he hands out to good pirates. So uh we're looking forward to that. Are you going pirate Eli? I will be there. Very good, Mr. Reynolds. Thank you. City bill list. Any questions on the city bill list? Right, Mr. Delaney? Mr. Whiting? No. No questions here. You good? I'm good. Any other business? Item number 12. I'll make a motion to adjourn to April 15th at 7 p.m. Second. Second. Whiting and Mr. Delaney. Any discussion on the motion? Discussion. Seeing none, all in favor say I. I. Opposed. We are adjourned. Thanks everyone.